Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 762: Refusing to Treat Pregnant People, Tucker vs Evolution

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glirt Hole Studios in Chicago and beyond, this is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way, we bring critical thinking, skepticism and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is No, welcome at today is Thursday April the 25th. I see so we are alas a lack
Starting point is 00:01:12 Apart once apart again apart again. I got sick this week. So I didn't want to get Tom's sick So I thought I'd appreciate it. I was like, hey, you should just record from home like shit this week I was like, hey, you should just record from home because I feel like shit this week But but nothing stops the podcast Nothing stops it my friend I want to I want to mention too because I was sent a very specific message from Sarah our Social media person today and she said please do me a favor Mentioned the tik-tok on the show tonight. At this point, I think she said we've grown to about 500 followers on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:01:50 My suggestion is get in there now. Get in there now and follow us while you still can because this last week they... Yeah, we might not have TikTok. They might not have TikTok. Might not have TikTok to kick around anymore. Who knows? You don't even know. You're not sure.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So I would get on it just right away. Get on it. So get in while the getting is good on the old TikToks. So we've been doing the TikTok now for we're excerpting from the show. Yeah, we're pulling stuff from the show. So every week we pull stuff from the show, little clips. And one of the best things people post on there is thank you for posting these because then they share these little sound bites They're about a minute long. Yeah, and so they share them with people and so that's and and I I suspect that that is one of those
Starting point is 00:02:35 Mediums that is very useful for that particular Shareable shareability. So so check it out. Also next week, you know, now we're talking, might as well talk about it. Next week, we should be back on YouTube. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's, I think it is next week, but it's after the second show next week. So it's after our Thursday show because that's like the second of May. It's the fifth of May that our strike gets repealed. So we're going back on YouTube. Then we'll go back on YouTube and we should be posting
Starting point is 00:03:08 some shorts there. I did want to mention that the person who has been following us around who posts, you guys should always talk about the Ministry of Thought or whatever when he keeps on posting the same thing over and over. Whenever we talk about how there needs to be some sort of regulation on social media, he's like, well, you guys wanna have this ministry of thought that comes in and controls everything.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And he posted again, but he said, well, if there was only a government organization that could help you out, I'm thinking, dude, this is the free market solution we're talking about. Right. There's no governmental organization that's helping. This is the free market solution and it sucks and it fucking sucks. It sucks because we literally follow every single one of their guidelines.
Starting point is 00:04:00 We never talk about, we never say anything bad about vaccines and yet they, they don't even have a human being who can look at it So it's not about whether or not posting something That's disinformation like I think you probably shouldn't be posting things that are disinformation and maybe me and this guy disagree on that But I'll tell you what with we're posting Information run they say they label it as disinformation. Yeah, absolutely I mean what like they're flagging a poem, absolutely. I mean, they're flagging a poem, Cecil. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:04:27 They're flagging a drum. They flagged it three times. Three different times. Get the fuck out of here. And that's the other thing, too, is we're going to have to take probably the skeptics creed off the end on YouTube. I got to talk to Ian the best way to handle that. But I think we're going to have to just kill it on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:04:41 There won't be a skeptics creed. So at the end of every YouTube, I'll be like, we'll leave you with skeptics creed. And then we won't. And then we won't. Then we're just not going to do it. Because they literally flagged that poem. That algorithm now searches for that particular turn of phrase, vaccine nuts. And if you think about that poem, like the way, you know, like if we were to go through
Starting point is 00:05:01 it and actually maybe this would be funny. We should go through it and everything that might get flagged, we should just censor it with a censor beep. Oh, yeah. So just... Yeah, because conspiracy. We've been dinged for conspiracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 We've been dinged for conspiracy. Yeah. It'll be so funny to put beeps in there for everything. It'll actually be really kind of funny. Like the YouTube version, the censored version for YouTube? Let me see if I can work on that. I'll see if I can get to Beepsko and we'll get some censoring. We'll censor our own shit.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Look, Rimshock. I've been chosen for jury duty. So see, so let's start the fucking Trump trial. It's been going hard. It started in earnest. They seated a jury and the fucking, the same day they seated the last jury, they're like, great, let's call some witnesses. They got witness number one day one, even though they were like, yeah, we're gonna adjourn early
Starting point is 00:05:50 What time is it? Oh, we got all our juries. Awesome. Let's not break for lunch. That's a break for the day Let's get a fucking witness up in this pig. Yeah, they are moving this thing along my guy. Yeah, it's awesome Yeah, and Packer has been on the stand. What a name. What a name. Let me tell you this guy Here's here's a genuine scumbag, right a guy who who? Ran a catch-and-kill we talked about this a couple weeks ago where if anything comes across The National Enquirer and all the other magazines that he was running if it comes in Oh, I don't know that's not not a magazine, whatever it is, tabloid.
Starting point is 00:06:26 A tabloid. If it comes across the tabloid that he's running, then what they do is they would just take it and say, cool, we're going to not run this. Make the people sign an NDA, make them think you're going to run it and then just never run it and then just hide it, catch it and kill it. And then they found out this week that he was actually creating stories about Hillary Clinton. That he was creating fake stories about her. And yeah, and like crucially to the point of the catch
Starting point is 00:06:52 and kill is they don't just choose not to run those stories. They buy those stories. They buy exclusivity to those stories and then they don't run them. So they buy them and bury them. So like it's, that's why they call it catch and kill just them. So like, that's why they call it catch and kill, just for the audience. Like that's why they call it catch and kill.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So editorial discretion is editorial discretion. This is not editorial discretion. This is making sure that a story not only doesn't see the light of day through your paper, but never sees the light of day, period. Just period. This is the worst kind of checkbook journalism that can possibly be done.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And it is a thousand percent election interference. A thousand percent, man. Absolutely. And this guy is, he did the same thing for Schwarzenegger. They had him on the stand today and they were talking about all this stuff. And he's like, yeah, I did the same thing for other people. The only reason he can say this on the stand is because he was given immunity in these cases
Starting point is 00:07:49 But he's a hundred percent guilty of a crime That's a crime. Yeah, that's a crime and I want people to understand like like if you hear somebody saying that shit and they think oh Well, he you know, he said it it's not a big deal. No, it's a crime He was he had a plea deal deal to be part of this case, and then he committed a crime, and that crime is not gonna be prosecuted now. Right, yeah, because he's just, they want him as a witness more than they want
Starting point is 00:08:13 to pursue him for his own criminal acts. But Trump is, this is gonna be a real hard case for him. They have it pretty locked up, and I think he's definitely going to lose this case. I think so too, man. And like the opening statements, it's really frustrating that we can't just watch the goddamn trial. I know. It makes me insane.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I know that like every jurisdiction or whatever has different rules, you know, and there's federal rules and there's like your state rules. I get that. But I fucking hate it. And I actually think it should be illegal for trials not to be able to be broadcast. Especially something this big. Yeah. This seems really irresponsible to have to, to not be able to see it and hear it. Like this affects every American citizen.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I mean, it affects people around the world to be honest. So everybody should have a right to see and hear exactly what's going on word for word. This bullshit where we have to read stories and listen to fucking podcasts or watch the news or whatever to figure out what somebody transcribed when they were sitting there, what they thought was the most important makes me crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, I will say though, like the opening statements for the defense, they're basically like, nah, it's just 34 pieces of paper. It's like, what is that? That's a saying like, nah, it's just one body in the closet. Like I get all worked up about 34. Yeah. I get all worked up about 34 pieces of paper. If you, what you write on them describes a crime, man, you can't like there's not like, oh, what? Oh, you're going to put your you're going to put your, uh, your, your conspiracy to defraud the American people and Elisa Frank, a trapper keeper from 1996.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Well, that makes it not a crime anymore because it has dolphins on the front. Get out of here. Get out of 34 pieces of paper. I laughed out loud when I read that yeah, man 30 but well shit fucking one piece of paper could be important like it doesn't necessarily Not like my fucking birth certificate or my like Social Security card those are important Yeah, man die my my fucking the the the deed for my house or whatever like this Get the fuck out of here like one piece of paper could be
Starting point is 00:10:25 Really really important let alone 34 get the fuck out of here and then back to wherever the fuck he belongs and Trump Believes the same thing because when he was beating up on Obama pretending that he didn't think Obama was a US citizen That was all about one piece of paper one piece of paper Yeah, you got a piece of paper and it says gone crime in on your fucking we need a t-shirt gone crime and gone crime and that's what we need it's just got it Trump's picture you Um, I'm gonna excuse myself. Victor. Victor! What? What? What's... You didn't thank him for his service, asshole.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They thanked him! Three people thanked him! Why do I have to thank him? Fuck, how hard would it have been? Thank him for his service? It's kind of obvious. Does everybody have to thank him for his service? Yes! Now you've ruined everything, Larry. I'm making all this delicious salmon and the whole night is ruined. Are you sauteing that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Do you mind boiling mine? Is that a face? Get the fuck out. Leave. Okay. Thank you for serving the hors d'oeuvres. Thank you for being a very good manager. Thank you for coming over in this brisk weather.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Thank you for leaving. This story comes from the NBC News. RFK junior candidacy hurts Trump more than Biden, according to NBC News poll. So this is an interesting story because I wasn't sure which way, like anybody that RFK appeals to is a crazy person. Yeah, right. Absolutely. The problem is that he appeals to like a slice of American crazy that for a long time was left leaning and he's also a Kennedy. Although the Kennedy family has largely sort of like backed the fuck off of RFK in a big
Starting point is 00:12:14 way. And he does have some left leaning cred with his, with his environmental, you know, activism that he's been a part of for his whole life. So I was really kind of concerned like, is he gonna pull from the Democrats, he gonna pull from the Democrats, but he's also crazy wild anti-vaxxers, like conspiratorial. And that right now lives mostly since COVID,
Starting point is 00:12:38 most of that lives in the right wing world now. And so it sounds like that is now pulling people from the Trump camp into RFK, which is great. Like I'm a hundred percent pro that. I actually wish he would just go away with his weird insane voice and like his crazy ideas and his just total lack of any kind of sensibility or decorum like I wish he would just go away just forever.
Starting point is 00:13:03 But if he's going to stay in at least pull from Trump. Yeah. RFK is like, he's not like he is a bag of rocks in a washing machine. That's what his voice sounds like. That's his IQ. He's a terrible, terrible person. He's not a smart person at all. The, the time that he tricked Joe Rogan where he made Joe read his own website on the air,
Starting point is 00:13:26 talking about vaccines. This is a guy who doesn't know anything about vaccines, wrote a bunch of garbage about vaccines in a book. And now I agree with you, Tom, the right has really spawned an anti-vax movement that dwarfs what was on the left at one time. Now on the left for a while, there was a back and forth that there was people on the left that didn't, they didn't wanna get their children vaccinated. And I really feel like that was sort of, it had its home in that side and also sort of in the libertarian sort of center, right?
Starting point is 00:14:00 And then now he's in this weird place where he's sort of still occupying the libertarian center, but most of those people are on the right now. Most of the hard, hard anti-vaxxers are on the right. Yeah. And I love seeing these polls. Like I was talking to Haley about this earlier today. Like there should be no chance that Trump can win. Right. I mean, just, I mean, not because he's the worst. He is the worst. And we all know he's the fucking worst. There should be no chance that Trump can win. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:25 I mean, just, I mean, not because he's the worst. He is the worst and we all know he's the fucking worst. But if you just think like he already lost four years ago. Yeah. America doesn't generally reward losers in elections. That doesn't usually work out. Right? So he already lost four years ago and he lost by like 7 million votes in the popular vote.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So I mean, even though it was like close in a handful of states, he got trounced pretty good in the popular vote. And you can't, I cannot imagine you, I want you to tell me if you think I'm wrong. I can't imagine that over the last four years, he has pulled a lot of new voters his way. So I think he had a 74 million voters to start with from four years ago. And the only real wild card is whether or not the Democrats can turn out the same vote that they turned out in 2020 as 2024. Trump should not be like pulling more people, right?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Like the people who voted for, and there's plenty of people who voted for Trump before who are now looking and being like, fuck that. So he took his 74 million, he's hemorrhaged some of them because people don't support losers because of the criminal trials, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So his base should have shrunk. Really all the Democrats have to do to win is just this repeat 2020. Just repeat 2020, just the same people. Like if you voted for Biden before, just vote for him again. Yeah. Who the fuck is switch?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Just come out. You just got to come out. Just, I don't think there's a lot of people switching over. Just come out and vote. I wonder how many new voters are going to be because that's something that does change. Right? So what gets injected into the system? And you know, when we first were talking about Gen Z, we were all very, I think, high on
Starting point is 00:16:11 the idea that they were not going to be somebody who would, you know, be this sort of deep conservative. But we have seen that a lot of the males, we've been reading articles that sort of indicate that a lot of the males are leaning towards conservative tendencies and starting to fall in with the conservatives. So might be something to think about, you know, while the, the older generation probably lost some of those people who voted for him before, right? But the new generation that, that is now going to be voting age, how many of those are going
Starting point is 00:16:41 to be for him and how many are going to be for, for Biden and how many are going to just sit out, you know, that's going to be the real question. Yeah. I, this is like, I mean, I say it every time I say it's funny cause it's like my sports thing, it's like, it all comes out to the turnout though. Like the, the election is decided by turnout. It's all just stay healthy. It's got to stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:17:01 She's got to stay healthy. I'm turning the clock back to 1945 when America was a shining city on a hill, not just a bank disguised as a country. This story comes from the AP. Emergency rooms refused to treat pregnant women, leaving one to miscarry in a lobby restroom. You guys, it's not just a lobby restroom.
Starting point is 00:17:21 When I read that, I thought, oh, lobby of what? Lobby of that hospital. Yep? Lobby of that hospital. Yep. Lobby of that hospital. I got to read directly from parts of this article. I was, you put this in the notes, man, and this feels, this feels impossible. Feels dystopian as fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:17:37 This feels, when I say it feels impossible, it also is a hundred percent the inevitable result of the repeal of Roe. Right? That's like, this is exactly what we all expected. Yeah. We saw this coming. And I think we talked about it, you know, the day after Dals, we had said there is going
Starting point is 00:17:59 to be deaths because of this. And there's going to be horrible, horrible trauma that's going to be inflicted on the women in those states. So I'm going to be horrible, horrible trauma that's going to be inflicted on the women in those states. So I'm going to read this. I'm going to find this story here from the article and read this because it is so, this will so, if this is not like emblematic of everything wrong right now with the treatment of women in America, pregnant women in America, I literally don't know what else to say.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So at Sacred Heart Emergency Center in Houston, front desk staff refused to check in one woman after her husband asked for help delivering her baby that September. She miscarried in a restroom toilet in the emergency room lobby while her husband called 911 for help. This is what the husband says, she's bleeding a lot. How crazy is it you're calling for 911 for help. This is what the husband says. She's bleeding a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:49 How crazy is it you're calling for 911 for help while you're in the emergency room? Yeah. You're already where you should be for help. You're there. They will not help this woman because they're so afraid of running a foul of the law. So this poor fucking guy, this woman is bleeding. She just fucking miscarried.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So this poor fucking guy, this woman is bleeding. She just fucking miscarried. She's in the bathroom in the lobby of an emergency room in Texas. He calls 911, he says, "'She's bleeding a lot and had a miscarriage.' The husband told first responders in his call, "'I'm here at the hospital, but they told us "'they can't help us because we're not their clients.'
Starting point is 00:19:20 Emergency crews who arrived 20 minutes later and transferred the woman to a hospital appeared confused over the staff's refusal to help the woman according to transcripts. One first responder told federal investigators that when a Sacred Heart Emergency Center staffer was asked about the gestational age of the fetus, the staffer replied, no, we can't tell you.
Starting point is 00:19:41 She's not our patient. That's why you're here. This is a freestanding emergency room. It's not physically connected to a hospital. I think that's important to note. So like they weren't at a hospital, but they were at this place that was a fucking emergency room and all emergency rooms are bound by federal law to treat to the point of stabilization, all patients who show up, regardless of their
Starting point is 00:20:06 ability to pay, regardless of like whether you're, you know, a documented citizen or you show up to an emergency room, federal law guarantees that they stabilize you. They have to treat you. This lady showed up to the fucking emergency room and was forced to call 9-1-1 from the shitter in the lobby. Because they're, we've passed a law in Texas that has so terrified care workers that they are unwilling to provide care. Yeah. I mean, we're in a, we're in a spot now where people who take an oath that they're going to protect and help people that are sick,
Starting point is 00:20:51 they aren't able to live up to that oath anymore because we've hamstrung them through the laws in these places. We've rolled back the clock on women's rights, but you've also rolled back the clock on modern medical care. I mean, you know, really what you've done is you've said we don't just want to go back to like the 1850s with women's rights. We want to go back to the 1850s where women died during childbirth because we literally don't care about them. We don't care that a woman is having some sort of, you know, episode that could kill her or, you know, damage a baby. Doesn't matter to them. They're like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And or ruin their ability to, their ability to have a future child. These sorts of things are happening not just in one state, right? This is happening all over, all over all these states. We talked about a couple weeks ago that there's something like 14 or 15 states where it's completely outlawed and there's just these crazy draconian laws. Every one of those states has a horror story. I guarantee you, every single one of those states has had something terrible happen in it since this has passed and since they've rolled the clock back on those laws because
Starting point is 00:21:54 it's just a matter of time. All it takes is time and you're going to have a fucking terrible incident where somebody has to live through that trauma. Somebody has to, you know, their baby dies or they die or their, you know, their spouse dies. They're going to have to deal with that. We need to change. You just, the idea that we rolled it back in the first place is horrific.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And I have no idea how we're ever going to get to the point where we're even back to where it was like Roe versus Wade, right? Where we were in a space where all 50 states were required to perform abortions up to a certain point. And I don't know how we get back there now without some sort of, I mean, you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to really take both houses and the presidency by a long, a big margin. And then you'll be able to pass a law
Starting point is 00:22:45 that supersedes that as a national abortion law, but then the moment the conservatives get an office, they would immediately repeal it. So you'd only have it for a certain amount of time. It would be exactly be a seesaw. Yeah, it'll be a crazy human rights seesaw. This is why we don't make decisions like this. This is a bad way. Some things, in some instances, it is a good and sensible idea
Starting point is 00:23:10 to let a locality govern itself. Right? I do think that there is a sensible case to be made of the experiment of the 50 states. I do think that. I think that like it's okay for there to be different laws and taxes and things to some degree from state to state. of the 50 states, I do think that. I think that like it's okay for there to be different laws and taxes and things to some degree from state to state.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But there are also some places where it makes no sense whatsoever. And that's where the federal government steps in, right? The federal government comes in and says, I'm gonna imagine if like my driver's license wasn't automatically good in every state, right? If there wasn't driver's license reciprocity, state to state to state to state,
Starting point is 00:23:47 it would effectively make it impossible for me to enter or leave certain places. It would draw a border around certain places that would affect my ability to move freely within my own country. We're living in a space now where our access to medicine is determined by the accident of your happenstance of birth or work or geography.
Starting point is 00:24:15 That's fucking bonkers. Idaho is arguing right now about this very issue in front of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court heard, I think this week, arguments, oral arguments. with the state of Idaho, and it's the federal government, federal government's like, hey, if somebody goes to the emergency room,
Starting point is 00:24:30 you gotta fuckin' treat them, even if it's like a board of care, even if that's necessary. And they asked, I was reading some of the oral arguments, and they fuckin' asked the guy from Idaho, and they're like, well, what if a woman comes in, and it's not, she's gonna to die in the next five minutes, but if we don't do this, she'll lose organs.
Starting point is 00:24:49 She'll lose life function. She'll lose. And Idaho is like tough shit. No, well, fuck her. She should have been born a man. Yeah, for real. They were like, fuck it. We don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:25:00 The laws that like protect women, protect women is in fucking quotes there, are so narrow, right? Like the idea that like, oh, like they can get an abortion anywhere as long as like their life is in imminent danger or they're about to die or something. That is so fucking narrow and nobody wants to test that and nobody wants to be the first case and nobody wants to be wrong and end up getting hurt.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like in Texas, you get personally sued. You personally get sued, not your hospital. You're not like under the umbrella of the hospital. So everybody has to make these like really dangerous personal decisions about their level of individual personal risk for their liberty, for their financial safety. And it just, it just has a chilling effect on the ability for people to get care. And when you talk about that care, talking about people in Texas, that this is their profession, right?
Starting point is 00:25:59 They deal with women who are pregnant or that who may lose a pregnancy. You know, maybe they, they give both abortive care, but then they also give, you know, prenatal care, that sort of thing. You're going to start dumbing down the pool of the people that are in your state because those people with those qualifications, they're going to leave. They're, these are not, these are not people without means. These are doctors, right? This is a group of people who have enough money to say, you know what, my profession is being curtailed here. I'm just going to relocate to some other place and I'll live there instead. And so they will move to another place. And so now your state
Starting point is 00:26:40 might've had 500 professionals that could handle this. And now it's down to six or 12 or something because they can't actually do anything there. You got to fly somebody. They're going to not only will you have to like, howl a pad and howl a lift somebody to the hospital if they're bleeding out. You also got to howl a lift the doctor there because they're from another part of the state. They're fucking gone. You're creating a fucking like red state brain drain, you know? And like, I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 00:27:05 red states can't afford a goddamn brain drain, knuckleheads. You're not there. You're not fucking there. There's also a worry that I have, which is more nebulous, but which I still think is kind of important. And that is like, I was thinking about this person at Sacred Heart, who like a real person, a real actual person,
Starting point is 00:27:26 was forced to turn this woman away in this story, right? Was forced to say, I'm not checking you in. I'm not taking your vitals. I'm not doing the thing that I was trained for. And what I really worry about too, is the sort of like a hardening of hearts effect against women that this will have. We already see women as second class citizens.
Starting point is 00:27:47 We already see women as less important. We already see them as, you know, less deserving of social protections and less deserving of financial protections. We just made it possible for women to get fucking like credit cards and loans in the goddamn 70s, right? And buy homes and like own property in like, my dad was an adult man growing up. And like, I think he was married and women couldn't even get a fucking loan.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Like, this is not like the ye olde times, right? When you are in a position, let's say I'm working at Sacred Heart. Like I am going to be presented with people in extrem position, let's say I'm working at Sacred Heart, like I am going to be presented with people in extremis, people in need, people coming to me for care, and I'm going to be forced to harden my heart. And I'm going to be forced to harden my heart against a certain class of people. It is not a good thing to institutionalize the hardening of hearts and the sort of like callousness of behavior against women in need.
Starting point is 00:28:49 That's something like we just can't do. Did you deflate the ball? I did the job I was told to do. Did you deflate the ball? You are dead right, I did. This story's from the Atlantic, it's called Trump Deflates. And I think that's a great.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Did he make a whoopee cushion sound when he did it? Did he make like a really loud farting? So that was a fucking hilarious story a week ago when Trump was in like the jury selections time. And I know it's fake. It doesn't seem like it's it's there's anything to it. But someone had posted like Trump's lawyers are essentially gagging next to him because he's farting all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:30 But I keep hearing stuff like that. There was a part of me that laughed. Like, I was laughing. It wasn't, I recognize that there might not be anything to it at all, and there probably isn't. But it just, like, as soon as I was, like, cackling, I was laughing so hard, because the way, it was such a snarky shitty tweet
Starting point is 00:29:46 Too so funny. Well, you remember Adam Kinzinger who was on the committee He tweeted out or whatever. I don't know if it's a tweet, but he made some statement about like, yeah He smells terrible like Trump. They're like, this is a sitting member of Congress. Who's like that guy smells bad That guy sticks that guy just absolutely He's like, that guy smells bad. That guy sticks. That guy just absolutely, he's like holding his nose and waving it like, boiled ass. Amazing. All right. So this Trump deflates refers to really two things. It refers first to the passage of the substantial aid bill, a military aid bill, which was just passed. It includes aid for Ukraine, which is essential, right?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Like without this, Ukraine literally cannot survive. This is an existential aid package without which there will be no Ukraine. That's just a true, true, true, right? It will take a certain amount of time, but there's no way that Ukraine can keep fighting without this aid. Sure. Trump, who is very clearly in the pocket of fucking Vladimir Putin and has been since 2015
Starting point is 00:30:55 at the very least. I don't understand any world where that's not the most obvious goddamn thing anyone's ever seen. Trump, of course, has been opposing any aid to Ukraine and he's been putting enormous amounts of pressure in terms of this sort of loyalty test bullshit that he does all the time on Republicans within his party to oppose this aid. And it went through anyway, and it went through a house, a house that is controlled by the Republicans. And that is really a signal that perhaps some of his power is waning.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I think that this goes back to some of the stuff you were talking about earlier. You know, Trump's power is waning mainly because this is something that would be unheard of during his presidency and certainly would be unheard of immediately after, right? Well, not immediately after, because immediately after there was a, nobody was sure whether or not they were actually gonna finally kick him out of the party
Starting point is 00:31:55 after the insurrection, but after a little bit, then they decided, no, we're too weak, we're just gonna keep him here. So I would say maybe six months after he left office, this would have been impossible for them to do. And we know that's, that's the case. Look, I'm not telling you something that's not true. And I can point to it three months ago, him receive him having a conversation with Johnson and then Johnson coming back and being like, yeah, we're just not going to call it. Like he is, he killed this multiple times, several times.
Starting point is 00:32:27 He killed this bill without ever stepping foot. I mean, he just had conversations with people and they, they throttled it and stopped it. So he did that multiple times in the recent past, but it's starting to get to the point where one, it's such a loser for him. It makes no sense whatsoever. The only, the only way it makes sense is if you, you think that he has some ties to Putin that we don't know about. That's the only way it makes sense, right?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Because it's such a political loser for him to be on the side of Russia for this, that it makes no sense whatsoever. So it's he, but he has literally tied himself to it like fucking cement shoes. Yeah. He will not back down on this. And so you're in, he's in a position that he has tied himself to this political loser. And so now he's got to deal with the brunt of that. And the brunt of that is that it shows that people aren't going to listen to you the same way. It's, it's just the cracking of that facade, just a little bit here and there, is empowering other people on his side to push back and to, especially the people that were already dissenters,
Starting point is 00:33:34 to push back and keep him at arm's length. The other thing the story mentions is that in several states, Trump received not all the votes, even when he was the only person on the ballot. People, there was huge writing campaigns for people, and they wrote in or voted for Haley. Yeah, Nikki Haley, even after she dropped out. Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, even after she's out.
Starting point is 00:33:59 She's literally out, and they voted for her. As a way, I think, to show, now this may may be in some states, it may be Democrats doing it, but in other states, it's, you know, you can't even get, you can't even get that ballot if that's the case, if you're not part of that party. And so in my opinion, I think that shows that what you were talking about earlier when you were saying who left who isn't gonna come back and vote for Trump again well clearly in several of these states the Most die-hard Republicans the people who go out and vote in the primary, right? Several like a dozen percent of them are not gonna vote for him
Starting point is 00:34:40 What does that say for the people that are down the down the ladder from those people that aren't as died in the wool? What about those people? That's very, very true, man. And the trial here, I really hope will sink this motherfucker. Yeah, me too. I mean, just sink this motherfucker. It seems like the shit that he's doing is so fucking typical bonkers bullshit, right? Like here we are in the run up to the election.
Starting point is 00:35:07 We are less than a year away from the general election. He is absolutely going to be the Republican nominee. And that's like, that's a foregone conclusion. The Republican party is so fucking diseased right now that, you know, they've got a dysfunctional house, an absolutely wildly dysfunctional house. They have a presidential presumptive nominee facing 92 criminal counts across four different indictments,
Starting point is 00:35:34 who is defending, and not, I mean, he's defending a case right now about him fucking a porn star right after his fucking wife gave birth to their son. Yeah. He's selling Bibles with fucking constitutions tucked up inside of them. He's got fucking golden sneakers and fucking cowboy baseball cards. There is nothing more like bizarre and pathetic and impossible to defend.
Starting point is 00:36:04 If you are an evangelical right now, if you are like a Christian moralist right now, and you're pro-Trump, I cannot genuinely, and I mean this with Mike, I cannot imagine the fucking backflips you have to be doing. Hearing and seeing all of this insane, wacky, crazy, self-aggrandizing, like, whoring around bullshit that he's doing and being like, good man, that's my guy. Man of God right there.
Starting point is 00:36:36 That's my guy. Man of God. Love him. How? How the fuck can you... So just those people just need to stay home. Just stay home. Just stay home. Just be like, I get it. I'm not voting for Biden.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Look, I get it. Don't vote for Biden. I don't think I'm going to turn you over to my side. That's fine. Stay the fuck home though. You know, what animates those people to wake up in November and be like, I'm driving to the polls. I think there's going to be a lot of people that voted for him before that are just going to not vote this time. And that's, you know, genuinely stay home because then you don't vote down ticket to.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Right. You know, please stay home, stay home. Don't vote for anybody. Just stay home. We talked about this. If Trump wins, it's a landslide, the house and the Senate. Oh, it's got to be. There's no possibility that there's going to be, if you're voting Trump at this point in your political leaning, you're not splitting a ticket.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. You're not going to, there's no Trump Dick Durbin guy. Exactly. They don't exist. Exactly. I think you said it last time and I fucking believe it. It's scary. In recognizing a communist, physical appearance counts for nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:42 If he openly declares himself expressed in a communist publication, he may be a communist. If a person supports organizations which reflect communist teachings or organizations labeled communist by the Department of Justice, she may be a communist. If a person is a communist, he may be a communist. In If a person does all these things over a period of time, he must be a communist. In more good news, this is from the New Republic, conservatives quickly turn against idiot Marjorie
Starting point is 00:38:32 Taylor Greene. I want to put it, I'm going to put it on the big screen so we can look at it together because there's an image that they put on the post. And I think it's great. I want to put it on the big screen.. I want to put it on the big screen. I'm gonna put it on the big screen. So this New York Post guys, if you're not watching this, on the New York Post, the front page of the post says it has a picture of Marjorie Taylor Greene with a fucking Russian
Starting point is 00:38:58 soldier's hat with the fucking like, you know, the fur ear flaps and the fucking Russian symbol right in the front. And it just says, Nyet, Moscow Marjorie. Hahaha. It's so good. It's so good. And you know, like this shows, I think, you know, it shows that there are people that are on the Republican side that are turning against Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And I think, oh, that, uh, that she's in between us now. Now we have a Marjorie Taylor green sandwich in between us. I don't know. Thank you. Oh, no. Thank you. This is not my dream. Stop.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Take her away. That is a hard pass. No, that is a soft pass. It's like you left the butter out at room temperature. That's silly putting a coin slot, my friend. It's just not going to happen. But it's showing that you remember, gosh, Tom, it was, it was 2019. You and I were having a conversation and you had told me that she was one of the
Starting point is 00:40:08 number one people that people wanted to have speak for her because she was an absolute draw to get people to come out and vote for her. Look at how much they've turned on her since then. I mean, this is somebody who she used to be allied with the other GOP, hard right maggots, you know, like Lauren Boebert. Lauren Boebert's popularity has crashed. They have famously feuding with one another now. Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Starting point is 00:40:36 It has gone down. Lauren Boebert's has gone down handily. Let me tell you. Oh, yeah, she's just personan- Handily. Yeah, handily. Yeah, handily. Yeah, handily. It took me a second.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I had to say it several times. It took me a second. I had to say it several times. I had to say it several times. I was agreeing with you. I'm like, yeah, I agree. No, yeah, you're right. Of course you're right.
Starting point is 00:40:54 She takes a hands-on approach to politics. Yeah, absolutely. We're not sure she's going to finish. We're just not sure. But you're right. They both sort of have fallen out of favor for sure. They've fallen from grace because they never had any substance. And I think the thing is that like for most of these... Has Trump though? What the fuck? Trump's, for some reason I cannot understand,
Starting point is 00:41:24 other than like maybe the sunkoss fallacy at this point. Yeah. Like Trump is a different, like you got to put them in his own category. And then there's all this sort of Trump wannabes and the Trump lights and the diet trumps and the watered down trumps that are like trying to play that same game, DeSantis, who's he? Nobody now.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Right? Like he's a governor of Florida. His fucking failed bid for the presidency to run against Trump failed so badly. And when you fail like that, it damages your career. Everybody sees you as a fucking loser. We see it multiple times. I mean, tell me where you saw Mondale or Dukakis
Starting point is 00:42:01 or any of these other people after they've lost. You didn't see him anywhere. Right. Where'd Bob Dole go? He might still be winding around holding the pen. We don't know. He's walking around with his pen in his hand. We don't know. Yeah, talking about himself in the third person.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That was so weird. Bob Dole doesn't appreciate this. Okay, man. Okay, Bob. Whatever. Alright, we're going to put you back in your chamber. Alright, you just stay there. We are like Marjorie Taylor Greene was always a complete shit. She's a completely uneducated. She's completely unable to do this job. She's a whore.
Starting point is 00:42:34 She's been not sponsoring legislation. She's just there to cause chaos. She's a chaos agent. That's it. And there was a minute where that chaos agent was a brand of politics But I think America wants some shit to occasionally get done Yeah, this shit is exhausting. This chaos is exhausting. The anarchy of the house is exhausting The infighting if I were a Republican, I would be losing my fucking mind right now. I have a majority I can't get anything done with my majority. They haven't done anything.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Not the least effective Congress, I think, in history. And what she has done is tried to monopolize all the time to try to do all this Hunter Biden stuff, to try to impeach Joe Biden, I mean, to try to impeach Mayorkas. Look at all the stuff that they've done very specifically on sort of, you know, her orders. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And look at where it's got, it's gotten them nowhere. Literally nowhere. I mustn't waste any more time. They'll think I've lost control again and put it all down to evolution. This is from mediaite Cecil Whatthefuck. Yeah, man. Tucker Carlson completely dismisses Darwin's theory of evolution citing no evidence
Starting point is 00:43:49 All right. We just got let's let's listen to it all the way through and then we'll talk about it All right. So this is Joe Rogan a clip from Joe Rogan show. I'm gonna play it I'll put it on the big screen so we could both watch it together but let's take a look and And let's play this. Evolution is real. And if there is this constant, I don't know, but it's visible. Like you can measure it in certain animals.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You can measure adaptation, but there's no evidence. In fact, I think we've kind of given up on the idea of evolution. The theory of evolution as articulated by Darwin is like kind of not true. In what sense? Well, in the most basic sense, the idea that all life emerged from a single cell organism
Starting point is 00:44:31 and over time, and there would be a fossil record of that, and there's not. There's not a fossil record of a transitionary species, like species that are adapting to its environment. There's tons of record of adaptation, and you see it in your own life. I mean, I have a lot of dogs. I see adaptation in dogs, you know, through the-
Starting point is 00:44:49 Sure. Litter to litter. But no, there's no evidence at all that, none, zero, that people evolve seamlessly from a single cell amoeba. No, there's not. There's no chain in the fossil record of that at all. And that's why you don't actually hear people,
Starting point is 00:45:08 you hear them make reference to evolution because the theory of adaptation is clearly obviously true. But Darwin's theory's totally, that's why it's still a theory almost 200 years later. No, we've not found that at all. And I can't even guess. I mean, I have my own theories on it, but they're not proven. What are your theories?
Starting point is 00:45:29 God created people, you know, distinctly and animals. I mean, I think that's like, I think what every person on earth thought until the mid-19th century actually. Right. It's not a new idea. They didn't have computers. They didn't have a general understanding that we have today of the process.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Do you think we understand more now? Yes. Really? You don't think that we understand more today? We understand way less. We understand so little that we're actually sitting here allowing like a bunch of greedy, stupid, childless, childless software engineers in Northern California to like flirt
Starting point is 00:46:06 with the extinction of mankind. There's a lot to break down there, Tom. Like every second there's something new to say. But- Can we enjoy for a second that he's saying something so crazy that Joe Rogan is taking a back. Is Joe Rogan taking a back or is Joe Rogan in some ways agreeing? Like not just, just not pushing back at all.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I felt like Joe Rogan was, was giving some pushback in the lightweight. Joe Rogan does. He was like, do we not know that? Do we not have that? He's like, I think we know stuff about that. Like he's not, he's not going to debate Tucker Carlson. It's not what he's like. He's not a good person or a smart person. So like Joe Rogan's not going to do those things.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah. Yeah. But even Joe Rogan was not like, yeah, all right. That makes sense. Joe Rogan very did not seem swayed to me. Yeah. I don't think Joe Rogan seems swayed, but the problem is, is you have a show that reaches 20 million people, and he comes on there and he makes this really stupid claim that doesn't, that brings up stuff from, gosh,
Starting point is 00:47:19 god damn, 20 years ago, people were still arguing about whether or not evolution was a thing. I don't know if you remember where there's all these fucking dumb debates. Yeah, it's been settled for a long time. And the idea that one, he has no idea between the difference between what a theory is in science versus what a theory is colloquially. But then in the same sentence before he says, oh, the theory of adaption, adaptation is something. And then he says, but the other thing's a theory and it's only theory. I'm like, you're using the same word for both of them.
Starting point is 00:47:53 You changed the word even, but he doesn't know what he's talking about. He literally has no idea what he said. Adaptation is literally proof for it's that's the proof that we have that evolution is real and it's a fact it's a fact it's evolution is a fact and there is a straight up there is an enormous fossil record there is a like I wonder because everything he said was so wildly untrue and it's everything he said was so 25 years ago yeah I mean I mean, I think that's even being generous, to be honest. Like I feel like maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like this is in the scientific community. This shit's been settled for so long at this point. So, but I wonder, does Tucker Carlson really that... See, I don't trust Tucker Carlson at all. So I wonder, is Tucker Carlson really believe anything that he says right there?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Is he really that ignorant? Does he really not know the difference between theory and theory? Right, is he really or is he know that he's on mic and on camera and he's playing to a base of people that wants to hear that message? I think there's that's definitely part of it But I also want to point back to our book, The Grain Unified Theory of Bullshit, which you could buy on Amazon and is also available on our website. The book that we wrote very specifically talks about
Starting point is 00:49:14 how so many different pieces of bullshit fit together. All these different pieces of bullshit. And when you believe in one little piece of bullshit, it allows you to be open to believe in lots of other little pieces of bullshit. And when you believe in one little piece of bullshit, it allows you to be open to believe in lots of other little pieces of bullshit. So it may feel like, oh, what's the big deal? I just believe in the Loch Ness monster, but I don't, I'm not a, but that's the gateway to get you to believe in a lots of other things. Absolutely. The, the, what he's doing is what he's, what he's doing is he's basically attacking science,
Starting point is 00:49:48 because for his crowd, science is the bad guy when we talk about climate change. Science is the bad guy when we talk about where humans get their morality. Science is the bad guy when we talk about vaccines. So for him to attack science is awesome and he doesn't have to do it in those other places. He could do it in these other, you know, more established religious places and that's okay because the bullshit seeps over on the rest of that bullshit. Yeah. And he does that thing too, which, which you pointed out in our book real well, he does that thing too, where he points to antiquity as a place from, from which authority comes, right? He does it real ways.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He says, Oh yeah, don't you think we know? I think we knew more in the 19th century than we know now. And Joe Rogan's like the fuck and like, what are you talking about? We know we don't know anything about anything in the 19th century. If you got sick in the 19th century, they rubbed a fucking black bile on it, took a leech and put it on your eyeball, took all your blood out, and drank it while singing vampire songs. Like, are you kidding me? There's your bag of garlic, next! Like, there's a fucking period of time where they're putting toads around your neck I'm not even kidding because like toads had weird skin and sometimes you had a weird skin disease
Starting point is 00:51:10 I mean like get those like homeopathic toads. That's homeo toads. Yeah. Yeah homeo toads Like we don't know we didn't know shit about fuck back then right we did and we you know to some degree We don't know shit about fuck now and that's something we should all be humble about. Right? Like we don't know shit about fuck now either. But like looking to the past and saying, man, they knew so much more because they knew God did it. That's his point. Well, back in the 19th century, people weren't so stupid to question God. And it's like, yeah, I mean like We didn't know why it was going to rain tomorrow, man. I had no idea. I want to put this, uh, this graph on the screen that was very specifically for, uh,
Starting point is 00:51:55 that that is attached to this, this bit of video on Twitter. This person also posted this, which is called the zealot's corner. And it says, as your, uh, conviction goes up and your knowledge goes up, uh, your humility sweet spot also goes up, but it shows that when your conviction is high, but you're like, yeah, no, my humility sweet spot is literally doesn't exist anymore. I don't have one anymore. Yeah, right? That's great. Fucking Tucker Carlson, the man that got fired from fucking Fox. And what's he even doing now?
Starting point is 00:52:31 Like, what are you... He occasionally sycophantically interviews Putin. He's got a Twitter show. He's got a Twitter show. But you know it's not getting as many people as Joe Rogan. And that's the thing that bothers me too is he puts this guy up. He's got a 20 million subscriber. Oh, I fucking as Joe Rogan. And that's the thing that bothers me too, is he puts this guy up, he's got a 20 million subscriber, subscriber fucking base. And he drops these people who are bad actors, bad, has bad faith conversations with bad
Starting point is 00:52:57 actors that are literally dis informing the American people whenever they get the opportunity and he's amplifying their message. That's that's irresponsible, man. It is fantastic. You know, Joe had Joe make so much money he could have easily have on his staff, a bunch of scientists like three or four scientists could easily be on his staff. They wouldn't make you know, all you have to do is just sit and listen.
Starting point is 00:53:21 You know, also, here's the other thing. Just get get fucking Jamie be like, Jamie, call Neil deGrasse Tyson on the phone. We're going to talk about this with him. You know what, Jamie, call Brian Cox from the UK on the phone. Have him talk to us about this. You know, fuck, ring up fucking Richard Dawkins. I mean, you guys can all fucking shit on trans people together. You fucking be jolly all good about that.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And he could also refute all your bullshit when it comes to fucking evolution. That's the thing is like, he's got these people on speed dial. He could easily have one of these people call into the show. He could at any point have an expert on to look and talk to these people. In fact, I don't know if you saw this time, a couple weeks ago, he had some ancient archaeology guy come on and a guy basically debunked him right in front of him He had like a debate on his show and the guy the guy who is the just the archaeologist is just like fucking face fucking this Ancient archaeology guy my god, I love it. I actually will listen to that. That actually sounds funny. But, but here's the thing. Like Joe knows that he can do this.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Right. He knows he's, it's possible. Instead, you're going to have an agent of disinformation on you. You're not going to put any baffles, no security in there, nothing whatsoever to stop his message from going out. And a hundred percent all of that. And with a guy like Tucker Carlson, now the roles are reversed. He's giving Tucker Carlson credibility. Tucker Carlson used to be a guy who had a platform when you came on a show, he gave you credibility. I'm on the Tucker Carlson show. Tucker Carlson's I got a Twitter show. That's nothing. That's nothing. That's this.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That's fucking this. Right. That's this. That's like real. What is that? That's nothing. That's nothing. That's this. That's nothing. That's fucking this. That's this. Like, what is that? That's like how, like I literally didn't even know he had his Twitter show. That's how not influential he's become. He has fallen from here to here. But when he goes on Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan is saying this is somebody worth listening to. Yeah. Right? Showing up on the Joe Rogan show and that's the problem that I fucking hate so much about Rogan is Rogan will get a guy like Neil deGrasse Tyson, and then he'll get a guy like fucking Tucker Carlson. And if you don't know, and you're not following who all these fucking players are in this sort of intellectual space of the world, you're like, wow, these
Starting point is 00:55:39 are all good smart guys. Yep. Joe Rogan gets smart guys on the show. Yeah. Tucker Carlson's here. He must be a smart guy. I'man gets smart guys on the show. Yeah, Tucker Carlson's here. He must be a smart guy. I'm going to follow him on Twitter. It's fucking wrong, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Like Joe Rogan doesn't need to do this. He doesn't need to do it financially. He doesn't need to do it for any other reason that he just fucking wants to do it. I'm sorry. Herbal medicine, no herbal medicine ran for thousands of years. Indeed, it has. And then we tested it all and the stuff that worked became medicine. And the rest of it is just a nice bowl of soup and some
Starting point is 00:56:11 potpourri. So knock yourselves out. This story comes from Yahoo. I nearly died after trying to cure my cancer by following advice of social media personality. Well, wow. That's is that the most predictable headline you've ever heard in your entire life? Let me yawn at this. Hmm. This lady gets non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and she spends a handful of years of her life, Cecil.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And like, I will say the best part of this story is that she survived to learn a lesson. Sure. Yeah. So many people don't, they don't, they die. And then nobody gets to write a story about them because they're fucking dead. Right? So true, man.
Starting point is 00:56:54 She watched some people on fucking social media talking about, you know, like, oh, you got to use food as medicine and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we're not going to take chemotherapy. And like, look, I understand that the treatments we have for cancer are fucking awful and unpleasant to experience. It's a bad disease to get. The solutions for bad things are often really bad. And sometimes chemotherapy can straight kill you
Starting point is 00:57:19 and radiation can fucking burn you badly. And the surgeries can leave you scarred. So like, I totally want to acknowledge that for people that have gone through all of the hell of that. Yeah. But the alternative is like celery juice and like citrus concentrates. And this lady bought $2,000 worth of different juicers because she couldn't juice one thing and the same juicer as the other fucking thing. She spent hours a day concocting juices. She lost 35 fucking pounds, was emaciated, could barely open her dining room door because
Starting point is 00:57:52 she's taking nutritional and dietary and health and like cancer advice from some fucking yahoo on social media. She finally goes through all this and it's like, well, I almost died and they get her to a hospital and even at the hospital she's fighting against the doctors. Even at the hospital, it's like, ah, she finally comes around the chemotherapy works and she's in remission. All it takes is somebody to finally just be like, Hey, maybe you should do a medicine. Yeah. Maybe a medicine might work.
Starting point is 00:58:23 That's awful. And you know, the reason why they're doing this on social media is for the clicks, right? Yeah, man. If they tell you something that is unbelievable, right? That is just, it blows your mind. Oh my gosh, you could cure cancer by juicing a bunch of carrots and kale.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And all you have to do is just drink the essence of those vegetables and it will shit the cancer out your pores. It'll shoot it out of you like you're the fucking dying fucking fifth element. It's just going to pour out of your fucking head. People immediately be like, whoa, I'm going to share that with other people. Right. Dude, this is not a new thing. No, no. This idea is not a new thing. It's a new method for you to get this information. Yep. Back in the day, you used to have to share this video cassette with your friends because
Starting point is 00:59:09 doctor, whoever the fuck, was trying to sell you their fucking, their tinctures and their, their juicing machine because it's going to keep you young. It's going to knock that cancer right out of you. It's going to knock. All you have to do is drink this apple cider vinegar and it's going to go right into your joints and it's gonna fix you right up so you won't have any more arthritis or whatever. That shit's been around forever, man. It's been around as long as there's been grifters who don't know what they're doing, who are gonna prescribe to you basically nothing, right? They're telling you to do nothing. The juice and whatever in this case is worse than nothing because it's emaciated.
Starting point is 00:59:48 It's making her so she can't even get calories in her body to live, right? But in most cases, what they do is prescribe nothing and then you just die and you gave them, in this case, you gave them your attention because in social media world, it's important to get your attention because the more clicks they get and the more shares and more hearties they get, the bigger their check is from TikTok or whoever. Or YouTube or whatever it is. In the old days it was whatever they could sell you but via tinctures and your brand new juicer or whatever. 25 years ago, to your point about the videos, I remember 25 years ago, sitting through a talk at a chiropractor's office about the fucking Gerson Institute. Did you ever hear about the Gerson Institute?
Starting point is 01:00:32 I don't know what it is, no. It is a, it is an institute. They make pickles? Yeah, Gerson Institute. It's like down in like fucking Mexico. I don't know if it still exists, but like they basically did the, we're gonna cure cancer by having you eat an alkaline diet.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Like, Oh, like you're going to have like all this acidic stuff and your blood's acidic and your body's acidic and acid causes cancer. And you're going to, you know, we're going to, you're going to go to fucking Mexico because of course like in the United States, it's fucking nonsense is banned. You know, go to fucking Mexico. You can't see that here. Right. And you're going to, you're going to go to the Gerson Institute and then they're going
Starting point is 01:01:03 to teach you how to like juice. It's a lot of juicing. They teach you how to juice stuff to make you have a more alkaline diet and that's gonna defeat the cancer. And man, the saddest part was, when I was in this presentation, there was this guy who had fucking cancer
Starting point is 01:01:19 and he was going through the Gerson therapy and he stood up to talk about it. And he was sick as all fuck. You could see how sick the guy was. And he's standing there in front of these people Gerson therapy and he stood up to talk about it and he was sick as all fuck you could see how sick the guy was and he's standing there in front of these people in this like small audience at this fucking chiropractors office sure it's like ten people there right there's not a lot of folks there and they're all absolutely wrapped they were wrapped because like here's this guy basically
Starting point is 01:01:42 believing it with his life right in front of him. Yikes. Fucking yikes. Right in front of him. And I think there's a big difference between going to the fucking chiropractor's office and watching a VHS tape and handing that VHS tape to your friend and fucking chain lettering it and the way the amplification on social media. It's just so much more efficient. You know, it's like, it's like the analogy I use all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's like, it's like it's comparing muskets to machine guns. Yeah, man. You know, it's like one is just so effectively different than the other. It's important to think about them in different ways. I, it also occurs to me too. Like that person, think about this, that person now, if they were doing that therapy and they looked like gaunt or terrible, right? Like let's say they looked bad.
Starting point is 01:02:28 They did, yeah. They look bad. Yeah. You can do an Instagram filter over your face. True, holy shit, yeah. So you could just put that over your face and be like, I'm super fucking sick, but it doesn't matter because you can't tell, I look great.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And so then you could have this like facade that makes it look like you're, you're not sick. You're just, you're, look at how fucking lively I am. I've been doing this Gersh in Gherkin Institute for a while and there's no alkalines in there. There are only alkalines or I don't know. I don't know how it works. It's either all or none or I don't know. It's just batteries. We just eat double A batteries. Just alkaline batteries. I just looked them up. They're still around, man.
Starting point is 01:03:06 There's one in Tijuana, Mexico, and there's one in Budapest, Hungary. Fuck. Yeah. Founded in 2001. So a little less than 25 years ago. So I must have seen this 20 years ago or so. Wow. That's insanity. Still fucking around, dude. Insanity. Yeah. And if you click on it, because I looked at it, it's all, it's the same thing. It's all fucking, you know, you got cancer, have some juice.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Wow. That stuff is, that stuff is so terrible because it, it's the naturalistic fallacy, right? So they make you think that, well, what you need to do is just be natural. But what they forget to mention is like cancer's natural. Yeah. And cancer is like a hundred percent natural, man. Yeah. And there's lots of shit that's natural that's fucking harmful. Anthrax is natural, right? Arsenic is natural.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Like radium is natural. It doesn't mean anything. Natural is such a, like natural, the whole word natural just needs to be picked up, packaged up, and thrown in the trash. All right, that's gonna wrap it up for this week. Be sure to check us out. Look for us on YouTube soon. If that's how you enjoyed the show before you might be able to find us there again.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Fingers crossed that they don't just bounce us immediately after we start uploading things. Probably next Monday show will be there. Normally we do a Thursday show this week. We do a funny show, but I'm feeling a little under the weather, so we're actually gonna skip the Thursday show this week and move it back a week. So the funny show will be the second Thursday, and we're just gonna move everything back.
Starting point is 01:04:36 We're not gonna do a live stream this month, so every week after this week of May, we'll have a bit of extra content for listeners. But this week, and we're just not gonna do it, I'm just not feeling up to extra content for listeners. Uh, but this week in we're just not going to do it. It's, I'm just not feeling up to it. So we're going to skip it this week and we'll be back next week. So the next show you see fingers crossed, we're on YouTube. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So we'll be back and hopefully we don't get kicked off for the next couple of months. All right. Uh, well, this would probably be the last time I can say this for real. We're going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptics Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician double bubble toil and trouble, pseudo quasi alternative, acupunctuating, pressurized, stereogram, pyramidal, free energy, healing,
Starting point is 01:05:26 water downward spiral, brain dead pan, sales pitch, late night info, docutainment. Leo, Pisces, cancer cures, detox, reflex, foot massage, death in towers, tarot cards, psychic healing, crystal balls, bigfoot, yeti, aliens,es, Mosques, and Synagogues, Temples, Dragons, Giant Worms, Atlantis, Dolphins, Truthers, Birthers, Witches, Wizards, Vaccine Nuts, Shaman Healers, Evangelists, Conspiracy, Double-Speak, Stigmata, Nonsense. Expose your sides. Thrust your hands. Bloody.
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