Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 818: Inauguration Day Executive Orders

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

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It's political. And there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, January the 23rd. My God, it's only been three days. I just realized that. This is what I've been three days. Dude, you're not wrong though, right? It's like a year of three days.

Here's what I think happens. Trump has time time control. Remember how long 2020 felt, bro? I mean, come on, 2019. Come on, man. I feel like 2020 hit like and time just was like, what if we stopped and occasionally even went backwards sometimes. It's fucking crazy.

Three days, this is, we obviously, look, we committed after Trump's election that we are not gonna make every episode about Trump. But obviously we've gotta cover some stuff the first, like this first week. Like we just have to spend some time on covering those executive actions. I want to mention too, like we will cover the things he does that are dangerous and the things that he threatens to do that he appears to be able to do that are dangerous.

But one thing people have to understand is that Trump says a fucking myriad of crazy, unhinged, useless shit all the time. Some of it is a threat. Some of it is just him saying crazy shit. And the Republicans love it because people pay attention to everything he says and they get lost in the weeds. I wanna be very focused on this show, cover the damaging shit he's doing and try to stay away from all the like fluff shit. Like when he calls the fucking, it's the Gulf of America.

No one's gonna call it the Gulf of America. We don't care that it's called the Gulf of America. It's stupid. The end. I'm done with it. I'm not gonna fucking deal with it. I have to relay a quick online story here. It just made me laugh.

So there was some, I saw a thread, I think it was actually on our page, but I saw a thread where people were talking about the Gulf of America, like renaming it from the Gulf of Mexico, which is what it's named, to the stupider Gulf of America. And somebody was like, well, down here in the South,

we just call it the Gulf. We could just shorten it and call it the Gulf. And it's like, there's more than one Gulf. You know? You can't just like rename the Atlantic Ocean, the ocean, because it's the one near you. Like you might call it the ocean. Dude, I get it. Like if I'm in New Jersey, I'm not going to be like, hey, let's go to the Atlantic Ocean.

That'd be crazy. Think about it. I'd be like, let's go down to the ocean. Cool. Yeah. Let's go to the golf also. Right. Totally understandable.

Well, like it's not the only golf. I just, it made me laugh. It really did. Ah, amazing. But we won't cover shit like that because it's useless. It doesn't matter, right? The rest of the community of the world isn't going to comply with this.

Sure, the United States government has to comply to it, but why spend any of our energy paying attention to that when there's so much worse shit that he's done in the last few days that we should really be paying attention to. And the players in his little marching band. Yeah, dude, it is a form, it's an intentional form of political three-card money, right?

He's moving shit around, your eyes are focused, they stop tracking on what's going on, and then the rest of someone's pickpocketing you while you're in the crowd. Great, it's a great analogy, right? And it's also a political form of Gish Gallop, right? If I shit a bunch of stuff at you, you've got to follow it everywhere. Well, if you follow it everywhere,

you get caught in rabbit holes, pulled down in different places where you're pulled down, and then you're not paying attention to the horrible shit that I did over here. And so we've just got to be diligent in paying attention to the really horrible shit that he did over here. And so we've just got to, we've got to be diligent in paying attention to the really horrible shit that he's going to be doing. That's right.

And there's some really great, to be honest, some of the stories we have tonight have some great strategy in them to make him eat it. And I love some of the stories we're going to talk about. I'm a big comedy fan. You like comedy, right? Yeah. Who doesn't like comedy? Well, there's a lot of people who don't like comedy

You know, there's a lot of people out there dog straight up who don't have a sense of humor man. Yeah, that's true, right? That's I mean, I mean there are people who? I'll go so far as to say our comedy haters Alright, but it's just be better if you know instead of putting each other down If all the comedy lovers got together and found some how to organize and do something about the comedy hater problem. Okay. I have a proposition for you.

What if you were to be my second in command in figuring out a way to get rid of all the comedy haters? I was thinking what we could do is put all of them in like one little small section of town and then we can demonize them in the media. Nope. You a Nazi. What is going on?

All right, see you at work. All right, so Cecil, let's start with our first story because it's first. Did Elon Musk seriously just do a Nazi salute at Trump's inauguration? This is from the New Republic? Before you continue, I just want to say this might be the only story I found

that actually called it a Nazi salute. So many different places, journalistic, you know, This might be the only story I found that actually called it a Nazi salute so many different places Journalistic, you know outlets are calling it a arm gesture. Yeah, what is that? What is that? That's so fucking it's clear like cuz like I know this new Republic article is Did must seriously just do a Nazi salute at Trump inauguration? Yes, he did do a Nazi salute. Yes, he did. Next story.

Yeah. The only thing I disagree with is actually he did too. Yeah. But he did too. You're right. You're right. During his speech at Capitol one arena Monday following Donald Trump's inauguration, Elon Musk appeared to deliver a Roman salute, not once, but twice.

The gesture is associated with Nazi Germany and Musk was speaking triumphantly about Trump's election victory when he made the salute. I saw also online somebody say that his speech or what he was saying right before he threw the fucking seagale up there like basically like before he threw the Nazi salute up was an allusion to the 14 words. Oh, no shit. I didn't see that. Yeah. And like, and it's, it's fucking dark. Like this is not, we're not dog whistling. They don't have to dog this one. This is a fucking, this is a foghorn.

But for real. This is a dog whistle. And you know, like, here's the thing. What you're seeing online is a deliberate attempt by the right to try to gaslight the rest of America into thinking that he didn't do this. In fact, here's how you know he did it. Here's how you 100% know he did it. After it was over, he went to Twitter to make Nazi puns. So after it's over, he heads to Twitter and makes Nazi Nazi puns about his, his, his pronouns are he Himmler, you know, like he's making Nazi puns in the face of all the people who are upset that he did this when he could have easily just said, oh, I didn't mean to do that. I was just I was just saying to the audience and even so I wouldn't believe him.

But at least you could backtrack and say I wasn't doing that, also, Nazis suck. That's easy. That's so easy, right? But he doesn't not like, he likes Nazis. He likes Nazis that are running in Germany right now. He likes the far right party over there. He likes the far right party here. What he did was, there's two options. He's either a fucking Nazi or he's somebody who is in bed with Nazis who likes to troll people. It's one or the other.

The lesser, I don't know which it is. I don't know. And I'm not going to make it a judgment, but those are your only two options at this point. That's it. So he's either trying to troll people for his buddy Nazis, or he's a Nazi. Those are your two options. And when you own fucking Twitter, like when you own one of the largest communication platforms on the planet, it actually doesn't matter

if you sincerely hold that belief, right? That's an unimportant, that's an, people always try to draw that distinction. I know you're that's an, like people always try to draw that distinction. I know you're not, but like people always try to draw this distinction. Like, Oh, what does he really mean in his fucking hearty heart? That doesn't matter. What did he do? He's got an audience of millions and millions of people.

He's got the, he has access to the largest fucking bullhorn, the biggest town square, whatever you want to analogize it to. What did he do? Who's he talking to? Who hears this? There, you know, when you go online and look at the stories around this gesture, which is a fucking Nazi salute,

it's not a hand gesture. He slaps his chest dramatically, and then he thrusts his hand out and up at a fucking angle with his fucking palm down in this like really militaristic, obviously militaristic and aggressive way. These apologists are like, oh, that wasn't a Nazi salute, it was a Roman salute. And you'd be like, that's the same thing. That's just what do you sell? Like that's the Nazis adopted the Romans. So that's the same thing. And also just, what are you, like that's, the Nazis adopted the Romans, so that's the same thing and also like I looked this up, there's like not really any evidence that that salute

was used in Rome. So like you don't know shit about fuck and that's fine, but like you're just like one, you should think about why you're apologizing for this, right? It doesn't matter why somebody does a thing. It doesn't matter what the origin of a thing was. And this is a silly example, but Cecil, there was a thing I saw online where somebody was like, oh, you know what really grinds my gears is when people use the word decimate wrong, because decimate is supposed to mean killing one out of every 10 soldiers. But like I looked

it up and that's not what it means anymore because things change their definitions over time. Because it changed. Because it changed. Yeah, you're not decimating things anymore. To substantially destroy all or most of something. It was 10% and now it's 90%. So like words are not static things. Gestures and symbols are not static things. Maybe it was a Roman salute when the Romans did it, but if the Nazis also did it, then it's the Nazi salute, man.

It's like you can't look at a swastika and be like actually that's a an ancient an even more ancient symbol It's like yeah, I don't care because in 1940 that was the Nazi symbol man. Yeah. Yeah, you can't just like go back in time and divest Symbols from their meaning because they used to have a different meaning before that. Things change. Yeah, I also too want to point out, you know, like a bunch of people, there's those people who are saying it's not anything, and then there's people who are trying to blame it on his autism.

I don't know if you've seen this. Oh, so ugly. What a fucking ugly thing to do. Isn't that disgusting for somebody to be like, oh, you know, it's, it's, it's as autism or whatever. And also I just want to point out like, like, didn't the government just change all the DEI and other protections and rollbacks for that? If that's the case, well then why should we care whether or not someone in this administration who's representing this administration has anything at all that

we can point to. Instead, we should all just be like, no, we're all supposed to be held to the exact same standard. That's your idea. That's exactly right. Yeah. If we're going to have a meritocracy and that's not a real thing, but if we're going to pretend that we are in a meritocracy, then like we should just be like, Hey man, autism or not, you should know better. Everybody should always know everything better. Because I'll tell you what, like if I were in charge, I would be like, no, I think we need to make some concessions in some ways. But they're not saying that, right?

Right. If they're in charge, well, OK, well, let's follow your rules to the point. You can't use that as an excuse. And just to say it out loud, I mean, this is anecdotal. I've known a lot of people that are fucking autistic and none of them fucking throw Nazi salutes around. It's such a disgusting thing to say. That's so fucking nasty. It's a fucking nasty thing to say. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. It's grotesque. It's not only shitty thing to say, but it's also attacking all autistic people while you say it.

Yeah. And, you know, the final thing I want to say about the Nazi salute of Musk is the other assholes who are selectively editing perfectly normal hand waving by left-wing fingers. Get the fuck out of here. By left-wing figures and being like, oh, like Obama did it. And it's like, if you look at the clip, he's waving at a crowd and you just paused it

at the right spot, right? Like if you pause things at the right spot, you can... But that's different. That is so different. The fucking thing that Musk did was to slap his, like, left breast with his right hand, and then thrust his hand into the... There's no mistaking the gesture, unless you're a liar. How about because you're a tiny, impotent Nazi with a bug up his butt the size of an emu?

So sometimes there's consequences. We'll see if we fuck around and find out. This is from the New York Times. Reddit users boycott X-Links after Elon Musk's gesture at inaugural event. Many Reddit users are boycotting the social media site X, formerly known as Twitter, after Elon Musk twice made a gesture during President Trump's inaugural celebration that drew comparisons to the Nazi salute because it fucking was one. Mr. Musk, the billionaire owner of the social media platform, was speaking at a celebratory rally after Mr. Trump's installment as

the 47th president on Monday when he grunted, placed his hand over his heart, and lifted his arm with the palm facing down and a hail to the audience like a fucking Nazi He does grunt though. Oh, yeah, he does totally like I think he hits himself too hard I gave myself a bruise I hurt my pectoral muscle. There is no pectoral muscle on that man. I'm just saying. I hurt my rib cage. I slapped my moods.

I slapped my moods. But I just want to say like this article is awesome. What I saw and what I did, I know it's honest work. It's not a lot, but it's honest work. Every single time I went to the Reddit homepage this week and I saw petition to ban X-Links from X-Sub, it didn't matter, they time I went to the Reddit homepage this week and I saw petition to ban X-Links from X sub, it didn't matter. They all made it to the main page. I didn't have to go to sub to sub to sub. They all got up voted to me and I in turn

up voted them. Good. Yes. Petition to block it. And many of the subreddits that I follow blocked X-Links and Twitter links. They did it. They did all that work. I, this is what you need to do. Here's what I did this week. I deleted the app from my phone. I don't have it on my phone. I didn't, I just signed out from every single computer.

I never really used it, right? Once in a great while, I would go on it if there was a link there. And then since I was signed in, I would see my notifications and so I would look at them. But I haven't gone to our page in four or five months. So I have no idea if people are talking to us there. If you are talking to us on X, trust me, you'll never hear from us.

Because I uninstalled it from my phone and I don't think Tom has access to it. So you'll never hear from us there. Right. And I especially I was just like, I'm never going to go there again if I can avoid it. We're not going to use them for the show. Yeah, I'll tell you that just like, I'm never going to go there again if I can avoid it. We're not going to use them for the show. I'll tell you that. I'll never use them for the show. I'll never use it. So, and then so like the other thing too, I want to mention too is like there was, this isn't the only billionaire that was watching Trump get inaugurated. So

I want to urge people cancel your prime membership, get rid of Amazon. Don't use Amazon. Yeah. Does it suck? Yeah, it sucks. They fucking super fucking convenient, man. They get you to you in two days. You don't have to pay shipping. It's kind of awesome. I get it.

But man, they're pigeonholing us into using them all the time as the go-to company. Don't do it. Do whatever you can not to. There's plenty of other companies out there that do the exact same thing. Do you have to wait an extra day? So fucking what man stop with this immediate culture shit? Cancel your prime membership get rid of Amazon and stop going to Facebook. I've stopped going to Facebook

I've started going to blue sky. That's where I'm going now when I want to look at something I want my brain to just like look at something for a minute. I go to blue sky Instagram Facebook at something, I want my brain to just like look at something for a minute, I go to Blue Sky. Instagram, Facebook, I don't know the actual, because I didn't bother to read any of the stories, but I will say I came down on Monday and my wife was like, somehow my page or my profile automatically got a notification that Donald Trump was president or something. And I was like, what the fuck? She was one of the people, I didn't get it, but other people got this message, even though they weren't subscribed to Donald Trump

on Facebook, several people still got a message that Donald Trump was now the president. Zuckerberg's gonna bend the knee and he's gonna fucking do whatever it takes to capitulate. Don't give Zuck your money, don't give Bezos your money. Don't give fucking Nealon Musk your money. And I know they're not good. These guys aren't going to hurt, but the businesses will suffer and maybe you can change how they do it. They're changing content policy on Facebook. So you're going to go there and it's going to be a,

it's going to be a cesspool like acts soon enough. So it's not going to be a place you even want to go to interact with people. So it's not gonna be a place you even wanna go to interact with people. So just do yourself a favor and try to find alternatives that are not these things because these people just suck money. And the money that they're stealing from you is your attention, right?

So your attention for two of these, it's attention economy. They are stealing from you minutes from your day. Don't give it to them. That's fucking right, man. The meta platform and the people that run meta have been incredibly problematic forever. We were talking about this before the show.

Like, it's not like Mark Zuckerberg was ever, this is not a conversion for Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg started off Facebook as the Facebook as a hot or not site. He was a piece of shit from the beginning. He's been a piece of shit the whole time. His programs and his policies and the way they build their algorithms,

they have made these products less and less and less and less safe over time. He was never a good person. He was never a neutral person. This was never going to go well. It was never gonna go well. You can download your Facebook. You can get all your stuff and download it through and you can have an archive, all that stuff, and you can just fucking leave.

I think the same is probably true of Instagram. I don't use Instagram, so I don't fucking know, but like, I imagine the same is true of Instagram and like, will there be things that you miss? Yeah. But I would venture to guess that in 30 to 60 days Once you delete it, you'll never think about it again never at all No! No, I am not the brain specialist. No! No, I am not. Yes, yes I am. My brain hurts.

So this story comes from truthdig.com and AOC 28 starts now. Forget failed party norms about campaign calendars. It's time to get to work. This is one of the most acerbically written. Fucking so mean. It is brutality word for word. I just want to point out like this, just the straight up, the writing alone for this article is just like, damn, there's some fucking feelings. Let me, let me read, let me read one piece of it.

Yeah. On that note, the fact that Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman thinks acquiring Greenland is a capital notion only reduces the likelihood that he'll appear on a dais wearing a cloak of Palestinian skins Face brave heart painted in the Israeli flag colors and could chunking a chair Rightward to be closer to his ideological kinfolk. Man, I mean, the writing is just like that the whole time. It's the whole thing is fucking all gas, no breaks.

For real. Like there is no confusion about where the author sits. The point of the article though is really that like there is an opportunity, right? Like we've got two choices. Choice number one is for us to continue to allow the Democratic party to drift center right, do nothing for the next four years, then install another center right candidate

that's establishment and see what happens. Option number two, which is better, is to just embrace the real left, embrace the actual left and start the real work. Specifically, AOC is a fucking great candidate here. Specifically, getting behind a left-wing, actual left-wing candidate and rallying and being left and celebrating the fact that we're left and not finding ourselves constantly drifting right. AOC can't really announce, you know, the fucking three days after the inauguration, can't really announce that she's running in 28, but the Democratic Party and grassroots organizations, they can get

behind a candidate like AOC. And she is such a potentially great possibility for that role. That's what the article puts forward. Yeah. And I want to read this other piece too, which I thought was really interesting. And it's talking about Trump and talking about the way Trump does politics. Trump wound up at the center stage of each 2015 and 2016 debate because everyone was turning their heads to yell at him. He made himself the center of conversation because he asked for neither permission nor forgiveness. His instincts were right.

Even if everything else about him was wrong, eventually just the whole darn thing, because fuck you. That's why he does the damn thing. So you're just like, you know, here's the thing, like, he's not wrong. No. What he did was he made himself involved in all every aspect of the media, because that's what when we read Trump's book, we pointed out that he had a plan to use the media all the time. And he always had that plan to use the media to his best benefit.

And even back then when he was someone else was ghost writing a book for him, he fed that to those people and he followed it. He followed it 100%. So fast forward to 2016 and here's a guy who is 100% trying to put himself in every in front of every camera, get in every single fight he can make every single bit of Salacious content that he can for mainstream media and they ate it up. Yep They ate that shit up

What you need is somebody to do that for us You need somebody to do that for the people who are you know on the left? Get somebody up there to do that and to and to be as brash and as brazen as he is. And I don't disagree. I think AOC is kind of a perfect person for that. If you listen to her talk, she talks like a normal person. She doesn't talk like somebody who's reading you talking points. She speaks like somebody who's speaking a regular language. You know, they talk in here about how, you know, if you're aiming for normal people, go for AOC. If you're aiming for people that are with postgraduate degrees,

then maybe Hillary Clinton. And that's not wrong, man. There was definitely a total amount of change that went towards a bunch of college educated people. And there's just not enough college educated people to move the needle that far. Yeah, you know, I'm of two minds about this. Like, I understand the broad point that the author is making and I tend to agree. And the thing is like, AOC has been incredibly consistent in her messaging and her worldview. She understands how to use new media. She is, she understands how to attack and she attacks really well. But she also, from the day she became a candidate, she has been uniquely pilloried by the right and by a lot of people in the center as well, who see

her as a threatening, attractive woman. And I'm just going to say like America has proven itself twice to be a deeply misogynist nation. It's you're not wrong. You're not wrong. America uniquely hates attractive people. Attractive women specifically are denigrated in a way that is different and worse than other women as well. I wonder if we are not too far gone for the right thing. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know the answer to that. I think that there are a lot of reasons why people vote the way they vote. I think like, I think that there are a lot of reasons why people vote the way they vote.

I think that people try to justify their vote after the fact by not saying they're misogynists, right? So they'll be saying like, oh, you know, they should have had a primary. That's why I didn't vote for her. Instead of, I just didn't feel comfortable with a woman running the country, right? Instead of being honest with themselves

and with other people, they, you'll never, I guarantee if you did a poll tomorrow that said, do you think a woman should be able to be the president? That poll would be, I think, overwhelmingly, especially if you're talking to the person, not like a hidden, like secret ballot, secret ballot might be very different. But if it's like a poll where you ask the person the question, I suspect that most people would say that they think a woman can run the country. And I would say a great majority would say it. I don't know that a great majority

in their heart of hearts believe it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. And I think you hit on the problem in my view is that I think if you force people to say things out loud, they lie. But if you give them the opportunity to do exactly what you said, which is vote, which is a secret ballot, like if you took that, that's the problem of voting.

You go in and you like, you'll walk in the door, and then you walk in, you're like, fuck no. And I will say too, that I did read some articles that in certain communities, people were, some people in certain communities were fairly upfront about saying like, yeah, I'm not voting for a woman. Yeah. They were vocal. Yeah. So I do know that too, that there was some vocalness.

And I, But most people, that was not a, that was not most people. No, it was not. But like, I do think that there's something unique about attractive women that America loves to hate. And I worry about somebody like AOC in particular, because I think it tunes a lot of dudes up. I think it tunes a lot of right-wing dudes up,

that they're like, an attractive woman in charge of me? You know, I just think we're trash. I don't disagree. I think we are trash. I think we're trash for a lot of different reasons. Misogyny is one of them. But I want to point out too, like, maybe it's not AOC. And I don't know that I want to 100% say it's only AOC could be the person.

I want somebody who can talk to people. I want somebody who could talk to people at a level that is not, you know, like a level that is not a college level. I want someone who can talk to everyone, who has a rapport with everyone. And I'm not saying AOC is unique in this aspect, but she doesn't talk in a way that is unattainable for everybody, right? She talks in a way that is approachable to a lot of people.

So just find somebody like that. I don't care who it is, right? Find somebody like that. And then the last piece I wanna talk about this is the money. So there's this big thing about money where a lot of people like, well, well, who's going to do this? Who's going to pay for it? And I want to read this because it's fucking great. It says, how does this, how this gets funded is a

problem only for people looking for a way to justify hearing no before trying. There's money everywhere in the system because that's the only thing that anyone's bothered putting into it for nearly 45 years. That's a great line. That's a great fucking line and it's 100% true. Whenever you wanna hear somebody start it, that's like, where's the money coming? That's a great way to say no

before you even fucking hear the idea. And so this is exactly the same thing. There's plenty of money out there for somebody to push now. And I think the way forward is to get on some of these right wing shows. My thought is, Boudaige does a tour on Rogan and Lex Friedman and all these right wing podcasts and fucking eats them alive, eats them alive in their own fucking environment.

Because let me tell you, there is no way Joe Rogan wins a debate against Pete Buttigieg. No fucking way that happens. No, no, I actually, I think Buttigieg is an incredibly electable candidate because although he is brilliant, when he speaks, I don't think it feels like a fucking law professor talking to you.

Yeah. You know, like it's funny to me how much I'm thinking When he speaks, I don't think it feels like a fucking law professor talking to you. Yeah. You know? It's funny to me how much I'm thinking as we're talking and like, it's funny how much the idea of what is presidential has shifted down. Right? So at different times in my life and different times in history, I feel like the idea of who should be president, and maybe this is inaccurate, but maybe this is just me,

like who should be president should be the guy that's smarter than me. Sure, I agree. Like who should be president is not the every man, not the like Joe commonsense, like not, I don't want that guy, I am that guy. I don't deserve that job, I'd be bad at it. I shouldn't want that guy. I am that guy. I don't deserve that job. I'd be bad at it. I shouldn't do that work. And when I see somebody who's like me, I'm like, you shouldn't do that

work either. But America has decided something different. America has clearly said that what they want is they want somebody who feels authentic. And what they really mean by authentic is as dumb as they are. Non-threatening. And that's fucked up. Obama was very, in my view, Obama felt presidential to me. He also felt erudite.

He felt like someone who was not, he was not trying to pull punches. You listen to his speeches now, even, and they feel like somebody who is very much a trained orator, somebody who is definitely not speaking at a lower level just to, so people can follow them. He is. Yeah. I think, but, but I think he was a direct result of eight years of Bush and he haul,

let's have a beer together. Yeah. I think so too. I think it was a direct result of that opposite effect of that. What is this? I don't know what the opposite of Trump is. Yeah, and I don't even know that we're gonna swing.

I think like what this article's point is to some degree is like, maybe we need to stop swinging to the opposite and embrace what works. Like what is America responsive to? That's what I think they're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You should be in jail and I should be in bed.

All right, so a couple of stories here related to the pardons, this first one from New Republic. Republicans suddenly illiterate after Trump's January 6th pardons. So Trump fucking pardoned or commuted the sentences, but pardoned most of them. 1,500 pardons and a handful of commutations. So the commutations were reserved for the January Sixers

who were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Their sentences were commuted. And all what that means is they get to go out of jail, but their conviction still stands in their record and they don't have their rights restored, they're felons. The other 1,500 people, including people that assaulted police officers at the Capitol,

were straight up 100% pardoned. It is an enormous clusterfuck. He said he would do it on day one. He fucking did that shit on day one. He had that ready. He did it in front of a crowd of cheering assholes and like fucking Stuart Rhodes with his one stupid Cyclops eye

is out of fucking prison right now, walking around, giving fucking interviews with far right YouTubers right now and they're reorganizing their fucking militias, I guarantee the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers and the fucking people their fucking militias, I guarantee the proud boys and the oath keepers and the fucking people who violently assaulted the Capitol to halt our democracy in an attempted insurrectionist coup, are home. Yeah.

And when asked about this, because Biden waited until the end to do his pardoning things, now that's all the news. And they're now, when asked about this Republican senators are like, what are we talking about the Biden pardons? We talking about how he gave preemptive pardons to a bunch of people? We talking about that? We talking about how he pardoned his son?

And you're like, yeah, I think there's some issues there where Biden should have probably done that a little earlier in his term. Maybe just right after fucking Trump won, he should have just did it. That's what I think is like right after Trump won, day after, and then it's out of the media ecosphere by the time Trump gets into office. But if he does it five days before, it's still kind of in the ecosystem and people are still talking about it. It's people are still bitching about it. You know, one of the things that pisses me off about, because they're always talking about how

many pardons Joe Biden gave out. And one of the things that thates me off about, because they're always talking about how many pardons Joe Biden gave out. And one of the things that people are missing is that Joe Biden community are actually gave pardons to people who had weed offenses. So there's a lot of people with weed offenses got, they got pardoned. And then another group of people that got pardoned were people who were sent home during COVID. So they were sent home for, cause they were like on good behavior at prison. They were sent home to home confinement during COVID. And then they were near the end of their sentence. And he was just like, yeah, let's just, let's just pardon all these people.

And they haven't done anything since, right? They've been model at home. They model people on home confinement. And one of them happened to be a kids for cash judge. So out of 1500 people, one of them happened to be a kids for cash judge. Horrible thing, right? But they were on year 11 of 12 of their serving their sentence. Right? So we have this weird thing in this country where we want to fucking like do all

kinds of vengeance on people where we want to say this person did a horrible thing. Don't get me wrong. I think they did a horrible thing. But we had a judge who looked at that and said, Hey, they should get 12 years. And then then we should all be cool with that because we already said that we trust what the judges do. You know, I feel like another thing that happens to which makes me fucking nuts is we make these fucking we there is definitively a two-tier justice system where white-collar criminals do horrible shit and ruin hundreds of lives, hundreds of lives. And they're in there for a year, two years, three years. And then you get these people who steal fucking, you know, $400 from a cash register and they're stuck in there for six, seven years. Like it's the, the, the scale is just not, it's not right.

And it's not just, and when we complain about this kids for cash judge getting out because Biden pardoned them, you're like, man, You're like, man, we have a fucking two tier justice system where fucking judges aren't gonna get a lot of time anyway. And then when he got the time, he's almost at the end of it. What do we care that he spends another year at home twiddling his thumbs? Like, what is the big deal?

And he's part of a huge pardon. It's like Joe like drove to his house and be like, I'm gonna pardon you specifically. We're gonna talk about something like that in a second with the Silk Road guy that Trump did, but that wasn't what Joe did. No, and like, compare it, you gotta compare apples to apples here.

I think there is plenty of room to be uncomfortable with the pardons, some of the pardons of Joe Biden. I fucking fully support them all, by the way, but I think it's okay to be, except for the kids for cash judge thing, that's fucked up. But like, I'm uncomfortable with that. But like, the like preemptive pardoning of people who've not yet been convicted of a crime

because the new incoming administration is like, I'm fucking hunting for you out loud and everything. I totally think that you should absolutely put something out there. There's a huge goddamn difference between pardoning somebody who hasn't done anything versus pardoning somebody who was beating cops with a fucking metal barricade. Totally agree. Right?

And these cops, or these guys that are being questioned, these GOP guys are using a two-quo-quo fallacy, which is you did it, you too, I can do, we can do it as well, and actually yours is worse. And so like, I totally agree with you, Tom. I totally agree. But at the same time, like I wish you would have done it just a touch earlier. Oh, same dude. It would have been a lot easier.

100% the same. And these Republican lawmakers that are questioned on it, they're liars. You know, they're like, I haven't looked at it yet. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I haven't looked at it yet. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I looked at it. Get out of here. You asshole. You lying asshole. In conjunction is this other story, which is there's a pardon of Ross Ulbricht and he's the creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace. And this was a deal that, that Trump had given to the Libertarian Party. He had basically said to the Libertarian Party,

look, you guys elect me and come behind me. I will pardon this dude. And as soon as he got in, he pardoned the guy who ran Silk Road. And it's not just drugs. I know they say this on the thing. They're like, it's drugs. It was a drug marketplace. And he used Bitcoin to trade. These people would trade anonymously. They would use. They're like it's drugs. It was a drug marketplace and he used Bitcoin to trade

These people would trade anonymously they would use Bitcoin and mostly it was drugs But it was also controlled prescription drugs and books I don't know what kind of books they were doing with certain books digital goods such as malware hacked along I hacked online accounts and pirated media erotica and pornography, but I guess that they didn't allow child pornography, but they said that there was pornography on there. Again, I don't understand why you're trading Bitcoin for pornography if you can't just get pornography because there is no, it's not like there isn't a fucking plenty of pornography for free or for paying online with regular money that no one cares about.

I don't know what you're talking about here, but in any case, pornography was in there. Forged driver's license and passports, services such as computer hacking or cyber-stalking, performance-enhancing drugs, and weaponry. So that's what they were trading on this Silk Road. I don't want to just think it's only drugs, because I think when you just say it's drugs, people like me who are normally like,

well, they should just legalize that shit. I don't understand, like, why we do all this bullshit to chase people down. There's a lot of other shit on there. I sure as shit don't want a marketplace where somebody can fucking buy cyber stocking services or they can buy hacked online accounts or they can get fucking like forged passports and driver's license. That to me sounds like a really bad place and this guy facilitated that shit. Yeah, and you know, let me take a slightly different approach, like I wanna be very clear.

I am generally speaking in favor of legalization of drugs as well, right? But until we have legalized drugs, because if you were legalized drugs, then you would also create safeguards in terms of what is being sold, that it is actually the right thing, that it's sold in the right quantity.

It's a great point. I do think that we have a responsibility, a moral and legal responsibility to crack down on things like this, because I'm going here and I'm sending you my fucking Bitcoin and you're sending me whatever you're sending me. Because we've created an unregulated, unsafe marketplace and people have died.

People who have taken the drugs from Silk Road have died. The drugs that are available now, in large part because we do not legalize, regulate and test, are wildly unsafe. Like I tell my kids all the time, like I'm sorry you guys can't do any drugs, it's all fentanyl now. Everything is for you just have to assume everything you buy is fucking fentanyl now. Cause like a lot of shit's fentanyl now. You know? That's

just a thing now. It's a problem. It's a real problem and a real dangerous problem. So like while I have an ideological and political position that says, hey, I do actually think we should legalize. I also think we should crack down on places like Silk Road because they are not safe ways to get those chemicals. They are not safe for consumers. We should look at them as, here's a guy trying to make money. He doesn't care if you're safe or not.

He is in the middle space. He's creating a middle space in order to get money from people who are desperate to have access to something. And he does not care if that something is safe or unsafe or everything in between. He's a fucking grifter. He's a mid-space grifter. This guy was put in prison for a fucking reason and I support the reason he was put in prison, but he's become a darling of the libertarian set and of the crypto set. And that is a base that Trump just like explicitly was like,

how do I court these people? And they're like, oh, well, you gotta, you gotta fucking let our boy go. And he's like, all right, I'll let your boy go. Since when are Republicans, Republicans for God's sake, Nancy Reagan fucking just say no, right? Like since when are Republicans letting out drug dealers in order to get the drug dealer vote? That's what this is. This guy's his drug dealer. He just did it digitally instead of at the corner.

There's no difference. We're going to go to Mexico, you know, like with the fucking special forces and get into fucking battles with the goddamn cartels. Because evidently that's not, that's the wrong kind of drug dealing. But if you do it on the fucking Silk Road, it's the right kind of drug dealing because you actually have a constituency that I want to vote for me.

I mean, this is just straight up drifting bribery shit. Yeah, yeah. I wanna clarify my position. I agree with you 100%. I was just saying like, there's sort of a shorthand for all this that a lot of people are, this is the PR behind it is, it's just drugs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? That's the PR behind it. And I just wanted to, what I wanted to say was, even if I agreed with that, there's also other shit that they're not mentioning. Right, right, right. So I want to just clarify my position that I 100% agree, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing to happen

because we know how bad black markets for drugs are. We've had them here for a really long time in the country, and people get shot on the street corner because of it. So we know how bad it is already. So making it digital doesn't make it better. It's just fucking bad. And that's one of the reasons too. I can't believe like listen to the fucking shit that Trump was screaming about fentanyl

and drugs coming into our country. And he used that as talking points the entire time he was running. And then the first thing he does is he says, oh, here's a drug dealer. I want that guy to get released. And also this guy, like also supposedly, I mean, he didn't get charged with it, but they had records of him trying to hire people to kill people.

Like this guy was like not a real nice fucking guy. He's kind of a real piece of shit. And everybody like, it's so crazy. Cause if you go online and you see everybody's like, awesome, man. And I'm like, awesome. I'm like, this guy sounds like a fucking asshole. Yeah. Well, it feels like, you know, this feels like one of those things where people are like, I want the thing you made, right? I want access to the things you made. I want to be able to circumvent and get access to stuff. So like I'm willing to not have principles.

Because it's expedient. And that's exactly what Trump is doing here. Trump is straight up saying, you give me the vote. I will let a prisoner out. This feels like some kind of terrorist negotiation. Hang on. Wait a minute. You know what?

Holy smokes. This is the bad place. This is the bad place. This is the bad place. This is the bad place. The pigs didn't angry. This is the bad place. Beef, beef, beef, beef. Oh, this is the bad place. Everything Trump did in the first executive orders and actions of his presidency, his executive orders cover issues that range from trade, immigration, U.S. foreign aid, to demographic diversity, civil rights, and the hiring of federal workers. Some have an immediate policy impact, others more symbolic, and some already are being

challenged by federal lawsuits. In total, the Republican president's sweeping actions reflect many of his campaign promises and determination to concentrate executive branch power in the West wing while moving the country sharply rightward. Yikes on fucking bikes. Cecil, there's so many, we couldn't possibly cover them all. We can't go through all of these. It would be three shows worth of stuff.

I want to, before we start, can I just say, like we've been saying this for years, Tom, but it's so easy to break shit. Yeah. And this is exactly what this is. This is Trump rolling through much of the things that he's doing, he's undoing. So much of the stuff that you're gonna hear,

he's undoing stuff that was already done. So if it was created before, he's saying, get rid of it. And then the things that he is creating are just abjectly bad. Like, none of these are the right things. I mean, there's so many things to talk about. We're just going to, like the article kind of lays them out in something of an order. So let's start where the article starts with this immigration in US borders. A huge portion of the executive

orders that he issued address immigration and the borders. He basically paused the entire asylum and refugee application system. Yep. Paused it all. Was like, yeah, that's all on hold. People who were waiting at the border who had appointments already made. Yeah. Are just like, yeah, it's just not happening now And they're just fucking stuck and like I listened to a story that was just so sad about a woman from

Venezuela who had made her way to Mexico and she'd already been kidnapped and ransomed twice in her journey to the border she had an appointment her appointment was like Like imminent and then it gets canceled and she's got nowhere to go. She can't go back to Venezuela. She can't stay in Mexico. She's got no money. I'm listening to this story. I'm like, how's she gonna eat food?

Where's she gonna sleep when it rains? What the fuck are we doing here? Yeah, it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. It's tragic. And these are people, you know, like this, the thing is, is like a lot of people, when they seem to equate what they call illegal immigrants,

undocumented immigrants, those people, they automatically think they snuck in this country sort of over a fence and then they just hid here and now they're just working under the table. And that's what they think of when they think of these people. And they rarely think of someone who was chased out of their own country, right? Because think about how hard it is to uproot yourself, right? Think about how hard it is to just pick up and go somewhere.

And then think about how hard that would be if you had to travel that on foot through a place you didn't know Through countries and borders that you would have to figure out how to get across They do all that work because they're they're basically being chased out of their own land By you know through through several different ways that that can happen through like governmental problems where the government is coming after him or gangs are coming after them or where they're caught up in wars or awful conflicts. And then they leave and they come here and our system used to be they would come in, they would get an appointment and then we would let them in.

And then sometimes we would help place them in places and then they would be here with like sort of a temporary visa type thing, waiting to hear back. And then what we would do is give them an interview and see if there was some sort of credibility to their account. We vet all these people, so where there's a credibility to your account, yes, we'd let you in and we'd let you stay,

or no, it's not credible, you need to go back. But those types of things, those people didn't skip those appointments. They were like a really high level of people who would come back. They would let them, it was a civil penalty, so they wouldn't charge them with some sort of, you know, felony or misdemeanor. It was a civil case, not a criminal case when they would come in. So it's all, it was such a much, it's a totally different system.

And there's a lot of people that come in that are asylum seekers. And so we're, you know, you're shutting that down. Now those people have to wait on the other side in Mexico where there's already been some horrible things that could happen to them and happen to them again. And we're just sitting there like, no, we fucking shut the door, fuck you. And that's against policy that we signed up for.

Like, so we signed a treaty that's basically like, we're a place for refugees. There's a bunch of countries in the world that are like, hey man, we're all cool. We all accept refugees. We're basically breaking that right now. Yeah, and we also, he declared with executive order, he declared that there is an invasion taking place

and an emergency at the southern border, which allows him to mobilize the military, the United States military, and use the military in these border control and border and immigration enforcement actions. I've got, I've mentioned on the show before, there's a young man that's been in my life a long time that I've got a mentorship relationship with.

He's in the Marines now. And as soon as this happened, I had texted him and like, I had this like long kind of heartfelt thing that I wrote about, you know, Hey man, you might have to do some stuff now, like some stuff that like really might hurt your heart to do. And you're going to have to really examine your conscience here and make some incredibly tough choices. The military is not, the military is not the right tool for immigration enforcement. And for, you know, there's not an invasion at the border.

These are not accurate terms. These are not appropriate uses of the United States military. He also has an executive order declaring war essentially on the Mexican cartels and authorizing the use of special forces and other military tools to fight Mexican cartels, which is essentially a military invasion of a sovereign neighbor. What the fuck? Also, I've read a couple of articles that like there's a fairly high likelihood that that doesn't go well for our military.

Those people, I listened to a podcast with Joe Rogan on this other show, I do the No Rogan Experience. There's a show I did on a guy who was an ex special forces guy named Evan Hafer. And I don't think that part made it into the actual No Rogan show, but in the show itself, Evan and Joe are laughing about how, if they send in the special forces,

these cartel guys have no idea what's coming for them. They're in for a world of hurt. And I was thinking to myself, I was like, that is exactly what they said before Vietnam. Yeah. That's exactly what they said. I've read more than one article that says, you know, these Mexican cartels are extremely well armed.

They're extremely well trained at this point. They've had fights that they have won against the Mexican Marines and Mexican military. It would be an asymmetric warfare on their territory. The chances of success here are extremely low. This is not a gimmick. That's all it is is dick-waving. That's all it is. And the one big thing that actually got challenged and was overturned today, or at least has some sort of injunction on it from a judge that says this is not going to happen, is he tried to overturn birthright citizenship.

So if you were in this country on a visa and you had a kid, that kid would have been a citizen of the United States. And they're saying, no, that's not the case anymore. And make no mistake, that's only for people who aren't white. It's 100% fine for white people to do that. It is not fine for white people to do that. It is not fine for anybody else to do that. And they're definitely creating a system that makes it so that if you happen to be Brown,

sorry, you're not part of America anymore. And it was something that has been, and there's tons of precedent, which is why it was immediately, immediately a federal judge heard and said, fuck you. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here.

So they're trying to go after an amendment to the constitution. Already been, it's already been essentially overturned. Now it has to go work its way up. It'll pop its way up to the crazy Supreme Court. Now you'll see what happens. We've got a crazy Supreme Court. The plain text of the 14th amendment is like, it's not confusing. They're trying to rewrite NAFTA is one of the things that they're looking to have an

eye to do. There's going to be an external revenue service to collect tariffs, duties, and other foreign trade related revenues. What a fucking joke that is, the external revenue service. That is a fucking talking point. That's nothing. There's not a fucking, some series of fucking bean counters who are sending a fucking past due notice

to some foreign country. That's nonsense. Yeah. That's just, all that is is like, it's something that if you're stupid, that might sound good. That's it. And there's a lot of people that are fucking stupid that voted for this.

That voted for this nonsense. Like, he's going to get the money from the other guys. And it's like, no he's not. There's already mechanisms in place. This is literally nothing. Yeah, those mechanisms screw you out. All those people, they all had like a jug band chorus that rang out when this happened.

But you're like, no, I'm sorry. This stupid as shit. And again, that rang out when this happened, but you're like, no, I'm sorry. This stupid as shit. And again, that money doesn't go back into your bank account. Dum dum. Like your money, you're not getting it. Yeah. Like he also, he fucking pulled out of the world health organization. Yeah. United States pulled out of the world health organization. Like during COVID, like the reason that we got DNA sequencing and other vital information

to allow us to build during Operation Warp Speed, to allow us to build and work on the vaccines was specifically because it was shared by the WHO. The WHO is an essential body for managing pandemics and many other health conditions and sharing medical information to keep us safe. We're just fucking, that's over now. That's the, I read that I was like, what the shit is that? What is, why would you do that? How about this one? Bar US government officials from pushing social media companies to combat misinformation and disinformation. Trump's order states that previous efforts infringed on the constitutionally protected speech rights of American citizens and advanced the government's

preferred narrative about significant matters of public debate. Here's, here's what you got to do. Some fucking left-wing billionaire, make a system that bans everybody who's right wing, bans everybody who's right-wing, bans everybody who's right-wing, and then watch them come after you. Yeah. Yeah. And then use their own executive order against them. When you are signing into law, stop pointing out when I lie to you. Yeah. What the fuck? Like, oh yeah, we really can't have these systems in place that point out liars. Whoa, yeah, we should have those systems in place that point out liars, man. What are you talking about? What world are you trying to live in? Yeah. How about the withdrawing

from the Paris climate accords? Yeah, man. So we're out of the fucking Paris climate accords. So that's awesome. That's, that's so great. You know, that's helpful. There's another one here. Give executive branch departments and agencies 60 days to eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, including all chief diversity officer jobs, equity action plans, and environmental justice positions.

Require departments and agencies to give White House office management and budget and accounting of previous DEI efforts, including names of relevant DEI contractors and DEI grant recipients terminate a 60 year old order setting anti-discrimination requirements for government agencies and contractors. Man, that, that 60 year old order, that was an executive order signed by Lyndon Johnson as part of the sweeping civil rights movement that took place during his administration, barring discrimination and the hiring of federal workers.

That's done now. There is no, that's done now. We're moving back to before Lyndon Johnson, man. Like intentionally, we're looking at like a place We're moving back to before Lyndon Johnson, man. Yeah. Like intentionally, we're looking at like a place where we're like, remember when Lyndon B. Johnson, like we want a world before that. That's before the civil rights movement.

Before the civil rights movement. He wants to roll it back to that point. If that succeeds, let me make this clear. We'll roll it back further. Yeah. We will roll it back further. Yeah. We will roll it back further. I can see, I am, it is in the fucking distance for sure, but you can see a world where like

the 19th Amendment gets repealed, because we're looking at the plain text of the 14th and just being like, nah, bro. I wanna, there's one that he put into place that happens to be in another story that we'll link. And Sarah McBride points out this in- This is great. And this is, here's what they wrote.

So there's an executive order that says they're only gonna recognize two genders, male and female. And then I'm gonna read from the article, it says more specifically, the order defines someone as a female as a person belonging to at conception, a sex that produces the large reproductive cell, whilst or whilst someone male is a person belonging

at conception to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell. But anyone with a background in biology will know that all human embryos follow a female developmental path until the activation of the SRY gene several weeks after conception, which sparks sexual differentiation.

So that would mean that everyone is a female according to what they just said. Awesome. Because everyone, everyone happens to be that. But one thing I wanna say, so first off a horror They they want to eliminate trans people we knew that when we read project 2025. They want to erase trans people We knew that was the case right there. They're putting it in the law now to erase trans people

This is a horrible shitty fucking awful executive order anybody who's in the LGBT community who voted for Trump, this is the leopard on your face right now. This is the leopard on your face. And trust me, they're gonna come after the G too soon. So they're gonna come after the B soon. So they're after the, they went after the T, but the rest of them are open game. So trust me, they're gonna come after you.

But one thing I wanna point you to is the word at conception, because that is a precedent for something to come from this point on. If they're, if they're making determinations in our government that are at conception here, don't fool yourself. They will make determinations in our government that are at conception in other places. Dude, a hundred percent. There will be some kind of executive action or law that is passed in the first year that will aim to curb limit or eliminate access to abortion across,

federally. One, I absolutely guarantee that that's the case. You're exactly right. The language that highlights and focuses on that idea of conception does so because it comes from an ideological background that something fucking magic happens at the time that the dude jizzes up in there.

That's what they all think because they're fucking assholes. Yeah, there's so much in here that we could cover. And in fact, over the next several weeks, we'll probably cover them. There's a federal hiring ban that they put in place. They stopped work from home. They want to try to cut these jobs as much as possible. They came in planning to eliminate as much of government as possible and they will do their best.

Like we said, when we started this segment, it's easy. It is easy to break shit. And these executive orders are an exact example of how easy it is to break shit. And one other thing I wanna bring up is that, because I saw some chatter about this, is that a lot of the stuff in the executive orders that is aimed at rolling back support

for green energy initiatives and the building of electrical cars, the building of electric car charging infrastructure. There was people chattering like, well, I don't understand because, you know, isn't Elon Musk, you know, like his next door neighbor now and his best friend forever or whatever. This is an Elon Musk's direct favor. Elon Musk already has an infrastructure built, the largest infrastructure selling the most electric cars.

What this does is hurts competitors for Tesla. That's what this does. This makes it harder for others to compete in that space and allows him to lock up that segment, that buying, that purchasing segment of the automotive population. Because at the end of the day, the reality is Teslas are bad cars.

And that's not me saying it's, I'm not, it's not a subjective opinion. They are unreliable vehicles. Like if you look at like any of the stats from Consumer Reports or Car and Driver, Road and Track, because I've looked at them all, they're unreliable. They're like down at the bottom.

Like if you look at the list of reliability in car brands, they're the last or second to last all the time. They are bad cars, they're built poorly, they're fun to drive, they have other advantages. They're not built well. He doesn't want to compete with Honda or Toyota or any of these other manufacturers that will build a better, higher quality version

of the piece-of-shit shit box he's selling people. Hello, Peter. What's happening? Uh, we have sort of a problem here. Yeah, you apparently didn't put one of the new cover sheets on your TPS reports. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry about that. I forgot.

Mmm. Yeah. You see, we're putting the cover sheets on all TPS reports now before they go out. Did you see the memo about this? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I have the memo right here. I just, uh, forgot. But, uh, it's not shipping out till tomorrow,

so there's no problem. Yeah. If you could just go ahead and make sure you do that from now on, that would be great. It's not shipping out till tomorrow, so there's no problem. Yeah. If you could just go ahead and make sure you do that from now on, that would be great. And I'll go ahead and make sure you get another copy of that memo. Okay? Yeah, no, I have the memo. I've got it. It's right here. Hello, Phil. What's happening?

This story is awesome. It's from the New Republic as well. Shove the presidency down Trump's throat. Liberals spent the president-elect's first term trying to kick him out of office. This time, they need to turn the White House into a prison. So this story really highlights that like, all right, he's here. Getting him out doesn't work.

We tried, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work a second time. Cut that shit out. But let's make him own this place now. Let tried, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work a second time. Cut that shit out. But let's make him own this place now. Let's make him, if he's saying, I'm the only guy here who can fix it, all right, bro, then everything that goes wrong is yours. Work him to the fucking bone.

Work him until, you know, the hamburgers catch up with him. Well, and one of the things they said was like, even Obama, who is a pretty smart, pretty, pretty great, you know, when it comes to making decisions, I mean, I disagree with a lot of stuff that Obama did, but if there's one thing you can say, he knew how to handle the presidency. He knew what he was doing when he was a president. He could handle the presidency,

but even he said that he was really handing things off to a lot of different people so he could pay attention to the highest level things. He was paying attention to the very highest level thing. We know when we read Trump's book, we know he's a shitty, terrible micromanager who has no idea how to get out of the weeds. He's always constantly stuck in the weeds.

One of the things that we were, that we read was like, how he's constantly trying to barter with certain people while he's trying to get a better deal about stuff. And he's going on and on. And you think, man, he shouldn't even know that this concrete is bad. He should have a guy who comes to Tim to tell him that the concrete's bad.

And then he tells that guy, go back and tell him I need it to be changed or I'm not going to pay him or whatever. He should never ever be on the phone for 30 minutes with the contractor to try to get a better deal or whatever. That would never have had a stupid way to run a business. He are bad at business, but he's also bad at the presidency. Look at how bad he did. What did he do?

He didn't do anything. I even said this like a couple of weeks ago. I'm like, he didn't do a lot when he was in president before because he doesn't really know what to do and he's not really good at it. But instead, this is saying make every single bad thing that happens his problem. Make it his problem in every way that you can and never help him fix it. Never ever be the one to offer to help him fix it. If you're the Democrats, wait until he tries to fix it and ever be the one to offer to help him fix it if you're the Democrats Wait until he tries to fix it and then you you jump in but never offer to help him fix it And in fact don't capitulate whenever you can avoid it don't capitulate

Just be like no fuck you because they've run an obstructionist government for a long time Now's the time to throw the brakes on because we're seeing all this terrible shit that he can do just by executive order. I saw that the Democrats today, they tried to bring a bill up for something and I don't even remember what it was but they're like, fuck you. Like, no, we're gonna filibuster that shit. So they're already starting to filibuster stuff. They're like, absolutely not. That's not coming to the, it's not gonna be brought before us. So keep doing that and make his job as hard as fucking hell the rest of the time. Yeah, run him. Like I said, like I think he got away the first term with just doing only the things he wanted to do,

which was a lot of times just golfing. Just golfing. Run this guy to the ground. Like I want to see this guy fucking emerge from this next next four years a fucking skeletal shell of his former self. I want this job to ruin him psychologically and emotionally. I want him to be a broken, desperate husk of a man when this is over. I hope he never recovers from the terrible stress and wakes with nightmares every day of his life until his last breath.

And it's not that hard because all you got to do is just keep throwing things upwards. Don't fix anything yourself. Send it all up. And when it doesn't happen, it's our response. It's every single Democrats responsibility to get in front of anybody who will listen in the media and tell them what a bad job Trump is doing. I can't believe he's doing this terrible job and keep on saying it over and over and over again. That's what they did to buy. Yeah. Right. Right.

Didn't even have to be true. It didn't even have to be true. They got in front of anybody they could to tell you how bad Biden was doing, even though he was doing quite a few good things in the background. They didn't care. They turn their spin on. Well, fuck you. Let's do the same thing to you. It's easy to get in front of these fucking media people. All you have to do is just send them a message. The Democrats need to make it their first priority to make it as hard as possible on Trump.

Make it as difficult as you can for Trump to do anything. He doesn't care. We've already shown. He doesn't care about any of the stuff he said he was going to do on the trail. He didn't care. If he can't sign a little was going to do on the trail. He didn't care. If he can't sign a little paper with his name on it and fix it, he won't do it. He's not going to try to do it. So all the people out there are thinking, oh, he's going to lower egg prices. I'm sorry.

They're $2 more because of the executive orders he signed. So they're already raised. So there's no going back. So trust me, he's not going to do any of that shit. The only thing he can ever fix is something he can sign his name to. And he's already done all that. So now make it the worst you possibly can on it. You know, and one other thing, which is, which is just related that I saw today.

If you think inflation was bad before. Like Trump came out today, I was just reading an article today saying he is going to force, I don't know how he's gonna do it, but he's gonna force the Fed to cut interest rates. If he leverages and does whatever fucking arm twisting bullshit, if he forces a lowering of interest rates before interest rates should be lowered,

like that is the tool, that is the lever that has kept the rate of inflation down It will fucking skyrocket man Yeah, that guy wants he wants interest rates to be lower because at a very high level That pushes enormous amounts of revenue into big giant corporations That he has stock in and otherwise controls and that his billionaire buddies control. But it will be a devastation to the economy. When he does shit like that, everybody needs to lay it at his feet.

They need to walk up and fucking lay it down right in front of him and be like, here's your inflation, sir. Here's your crippled, devastated economy. This is yours, you built it. Have him own it. Have him sign his fucking name on that. All right. That's going to wrap it up for this week.

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