Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 819: 30,000 migrants to Guantanamo
Episode Date: February 3, 2025...
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Today is Thursday, January the 30th.
See, so we are reunited and it feels so good.
Reunited.
Good to see you buddy.
Good to see you in the flesh.
Good to be back in the studio.
Viewers on our YouTube channel no longer have to look at my messy office in the background.
You have a pretty sweet system though in the background.
I do have a pretty sweet system.
I am constantly making little tweaks and changes and upgrades to that system. I see it in the background. You have a pretty sweet system though in the background. I do have a pretty sweet system. I am constantly making little tweaks and changes and upgrades to that system.
I see it in the background.
I was like, that's pretty sweet.
Yeah.
It looks like you got an eight track back there.
What's going on?
I've got a, I just got a new record player.
Nice.
The old record player.
Is that old Vic troll?
Is that what you got?
It's a Fluance RT 85.
Thank you.
I actually just last week,
cause I joined a group for people who are into old,
like 70s, 80s, 90s audio equipment.
Cause I discovered on Marketplace,
you can get that shit for a fucking steal.
And so I found a pair of these super rare
Bozak speakers from 1985.
And I got them from some guy like one town over from me
for like next to nothing.
See, so they're the dumbest thing I ever bought in my life.
They're the size of like two school buses.
Are they that big?
They're so stupidly big.
They're comically big.
They are ungodly heavy.
They're like hilariously heavy.
I gotta struggle to bring these fucking things in
from the car.
Like where are they gonna go?
Oh, they're in my office.
My office is 12 by 12.
What's their footprint?
Nine foot by nine foot.
It is insane.
It makes no sense.
And it makes me laugh.
Like I turned that thing on and it's like,
this is the dumbest thing I have.
That's amazing.
But I love it.
Yeah, it's fun toys. Yeah, I'm glad we have something to look forward to. Yeah, look, it's like, this is the dumbest thing I have. That's amazing. But I love it. Yeah, it's fun toys.
Yeah, I'm glad we have something to look forward to.
Yeah, look, it's been a bad nine days, guys.
It's been a bad
Dude!
nine days.
Dude, what the fuck?
That's been like, it's been moment after
fresh hell moment after fresh hell moment.
I, you know, I know that there's people
in the government right now,
they're doing their best to slow things down
and to dissent, because there's not a ton
that Democrats can do to stop some of these things.
They could do their very best.
And I think that the ones that are in those committees that
are doing the questioning on the appointees
are doing their very best to try to bring out the worst
things that are possible.
You brought out enough in Hegseth
for Mitch McConnell to vote against him.
That's a lot, right?
It's not enough, because JD Vance, of course,
casts the tying vote that winds up making it
so Hegseth is our new Secretary of Defense.
Jesus fucking Christ.
And we were already down one Black Hawk helicopter.
One Black Hawk helicopter down under his leadership.
Oh, God.
And under Trump's leadership too, right?
A plane crash.
You know, like, I know people, there's a group of people,
I think, that want to say like, well, it's not his fault.
And you're like, well, shit rolls uphill when you're in charge.
Sure fucking does.
That's important.
And I want to say like, they wanna strip regulation away
from these things that are protecting us.
And one of them happens to be the FAA, right?
So they wanna strip stuff away.
They've already done some of that.
The head of that department was chased out
by Elon Musk a week ago because he was fining Elon Musk
for things that he was doing with SpaceX
and Elon kicked his door down and yelled at him
and the guy finally just walked away from the job.
So we have a system where there's an oligarch
in the government who's getting fined by the government
who's knocking on doors and chasing people away
from their job that they've been doing
because we've permitted that to happen.
We chose the leader who was gonna do that work
and we knew he was gonna do it.
We read the fucking project 2025,
we knew it was gonna happen.
None of this is a surprise.
None of this is a surprise, we all knew.
We read about it last year, we were saying,
guys, this could be real bad.
Hey, news flash, we're 10 days in, it's real bad.
It ain't good.
But I wanna say, there's some people
who wanna push back against Trump being somebody who should take shit for this.
And it's like, no, he should 100% take shit from this
and he should double take shit for it
because he's trying to pass the buck on DEI.
Yeah.
Look, a couple of quick points.
To go back to Mitch McConnell,
imagine the place that we are in right now.
Imagine the dire straits that we are in right now. Imagine the dire straits
that we are in right now when Mitch fucking McConnell is a moral arbiter. Yeah. Like when
we are looking for integrity and we're finding Mitch McConnell, one of the least, one of
the people with the least amount of actual integrity and one of the most practical and
pragmatic game players
ever to be in the Senate.
Biggest hypocrite in the Senate.
Yeah, he's a terrible, terrible, terrible fucking person.
He's fucking like senatorial game theory 101.
All he cares about is achieving goals.
So when he takes a principled stance,
when Mitch McConnell does that,
that should tell us like we've lost the moral us like, we've lost the moral thread.
We've completely lost the moral thread.
And to your point about the FAA,
the FAA has been in crisis now for some time.
The job of the president is not to deepen the fucking crisis
and they are deepening the crisis.
I remember listening to an episode of like,
maybe the daily or what next or something along those lines,
just a handful of months ago about the crisis in the FAA,
the intent to shift the FAA's,
the Trump leadership intent
to shift the FAA's headquarters.
They're gonna make this problem worse.
They're gonna make flying,
which is already getting more dangerous
as the skies become more crowded
and there are less people doing ground control
and doing that work,
they're gonna make it more and more dangerous, man.
So like, yeah, this is his fucking fault.
And like, it's his fault because everything
from January 21st forward is his fucking fault. That's the job
He took he raised his hand and said I want to be responsible or guess what you're fucking possible
You're fucking responsible and you can't pin it on DEI. He stood in front of a group of people
This is like, you know if it was possible to still have meaningful like fucking soundbite moments
This would have been one it feels to me like at the beginning
of the first administration when they're like,
well, there's alternative facts.
Because he stood up in front of everybody and said,
well, we don't know what happened, but I have opinions.
And you're like, can you hear that?
I don't know what happened, but here's my opinion.
Let's blame it on like, you know, people of color
and women and gays.
That's your plan. Cause that's what he thinks DEI is, right?
So I'm not saying that I think that's what DEI is to the audience.
Yeah. Like that's it.
He just he's he came out and said it like, oh, yeah, that plane crashed
into a helicopter, not because the FAA needs to be better funded
and we need more actual air traffic controllers.
And because it looks like actually one guy was doing two persons job at the time
and maybe that contributed to the problem
and actually maybe we should just fucking wait
until we know what caused the problem
before we all pine on it
but instead, as the leader of the country
let me fearlessly declare
I don't know what happened, here are my thoughts
it was the Browns
Here's my thing
It really is man It really nothing. It's not hidden anymore
but I also want to I also want to tell people like
This is a group of people that's gonna come in and they're gonna rip every regulation that they can
Mm-hmm, and a lot of people when they hear that they think oh, well, you know, I think the government's bloated
I think that's a problem. I think they know me there's plenty of places to cut We should be able to cut these they think, oh, well, you know what? I think the government's bloated. I think that's a problem. I think that, you know, maybe there's plenty of places to cut.
We should be able to cut these different things, et cetera, et cetera.
The FAA makes sure you land and you take off and you get to your destination safely.
That's the job, what they do.
That's how they work.
That's what they do.
So there are certain things we can't compromise on.
There's certain things we can't cut
and we shouldn't cut and we should bolster.
And we shouldn't look at and say,
you know what we're gonna do is we're gonna cut all these.
I mean, look at what happened with Reagan.
Reagan had them all walk out on strike on him.
Yeah.
So we had a, like the thing is,
is like certain regulations are absolutely
bedrock necessary things in our life.
And in fact, a lot of regulations are probably pretty good.
Yeah. If you think about them and if you put them in the right context,
this is a moment for us to reflect and be like, you know what?
Maybe we don't want to cut so deep into those regulations.
Maybe we want to leave those fucking alone.
Maybe we want to bolster that department.
Maybe we want to do the right thing here instead of just following these
dollars that all we're trying to do is ring as much out of the budget as we can so billionaires
get to save a couple bucks. Exactly. You know, and I also wanted to, I was thinking about
the something this week. There is a narrative that I grew up with that you probably grew
up with that everybody who's listening to this probably grew up with, which is that
idea that the government is inefficient and full of bloat.
I don't know that that's true.
That's just something I've heard
in the general zeitgeist my whole life.
I've never seen any evidence of that actually.
I don't know with a certainty of fact
that the government is too big,
that it's full of bloat, that it's inefficient.
I don't know that I believe that.
I know that I've been made to believe that because it's been told to me a million times by everybody on the street fucking repeating
It as a sort of like shared common knowledge
But when I stop and reflect on that, I think I don't know that that's true
I actually don't know whether that's true or not true. I've never actually looked into it. I've never actually ran the numbers.
I've never actually seen a study.
I actually don't know of any times
that I can think of in my own life personally
where the federal government interfered in some way
that I'm resentful of.
I don't know that the government's too big.
That's just some shit that we've been sold.
I think ICE is too big.
Sure. Yeah. Sure. I think that's because I don't we've been sold. I think ICE is too big. Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
I think that's because I don't believe in their mission.
Yeah.
I think that there's some things that, but I think that people on the other side think
the exact same thing about some things though, right?
I think that's what politics is all about is that they look at, I look at ICE and I
think that's the biggest police force in our country.
It's a waste of money.
We should be spending money in different places. Sure. Right.
They probably look at the immigration judges and they think we should be spending more money on
ICE. And that's the fight we've got to have between us, right? We got to fight. I got to fight them.
And there's an ideological argument on their side and ideological argument on my side. So I do think
that there is some, clearly I see, but I think like, I understand
your point in that, are we saying everything the government puts its hand in is somehow
inefficient?
Right.
And that's, I agree.
I don't think that's true.
Yeah.
You know, when I think of government, I think, you know, my mind immediately is like, all
right, well, where are we spending most of our money?
Yeah.
We're spending most of our money on the US military.
Yeah. Well, all right. I mean, if we want to talk our money? Yeah. We're spending most of our money on the US military. Yeah.
Well, all right.
I mean, if we want to talk about bloat, shouldn't we look at the biggest line item?
There's plenty of ways to look at it there.
You know, if I were to look at, if I were to take the same principles that I would apply
to my day job and I were to say, okay, I think we need to look and make sure we're running
an efficient operation.
The very first thing you would do is say, okay, well, let's look at our expenses
and see which are our biggest expenses
and we'll start there.
It makes no sense for me to curtail T&E expenses
if they're 3% of my fucking budget item
when I'm spending 45% of my budget on personnel.
I should look at personnel first, right?
So when I look at the US government
and think about what they do, I should look and see where we're spending most of our money. Well, we're spending most of our
money in the military. Then I have to make choices. Is that smart? I don't know. I don't know that
answer. But what I do know is that like cutting out like, Hey, you know, we should have, we should
have less inspectors general making sure that the government is actually like doing the things that is supposed to do by law.
No one saves a dollar doing that.
It's like.00001% of anything. It's nothing.
Like most of the shit we're like gonna get all worked up about doesn't cost us anything.
We don't save anything and all we do is lose protections.
That's not like curtailing government bloat. None of that, if we want to really not like curtailing government bloat.
None of that.
If we want to really talk about curtailing government bloat, we should, we should talk
about the military first.
Anything that doesn't start with the military is lying to you.
Pardon my French, but you're an asshole.
This story comes from CNN.
Trump has pulled Fauci's security details, say sources.
By the way, those sources basically are Trump saying,
yeah, I pulled his fucking security details.
Sources, it's him.
And Trump is just basically like, hey, you know,
sometimes when you don't work for the government,
you don't get security anymore.
Anyway, shouldn't have given a unilateral pardon
because now I can't put him in prison,
so now I'm gonna hope he gets fucking shot in the street.
I don't think that's wrong.
I don't think that, I think that that is clearly
the underwritten thing that's said here.
I think when, you know, he also sort of attacks Fauci
for making a lot of money.
And I think that plays into that bullshit
that these people all believe about Fauci and the vaccine
when it comes to COVID and what Fauci did
while he was in office, while he was in an
office, he was an advisor.
He didn't, he didn't have any powers.
No, no.
Like he had no powers.
Like Iberdi was always talking about, oh, what the hell did he, look at what he did.
And you're like, Fauci's rules.
All he did was just, all he did was say to the president, the president that you chose,
right?
The president that you like, that you chose again, he went to him and said, hey man, we
should probably do a couple things.
And then President Trump did a lot of things
that Fauci suggested.
That shit's on President Trump.
He's the one who pulled the trigger.
He's the one who said all this shit.
Well, a lot of times too,
you'll see people talking about like,
oh, and Fauci closed down the government.
I just want to remind everybody,
the federal government did not close down your state. There were several states that didn't have any closures at all. I just looked to remind everybody, the federal government did not close down your state.
There were several states
that didn't have any closures at all.
I just looked this up again
because I was fighting with somebody online the other day.
So it's like, you know what, is my memory accurate?
Not every state had any close,
so there were some states that had no,
it was business as usual.
Some states were only closed for a handful of weeks.
Most states were only, like the longest state that had, you know, like any real like lockdown
was something like six or seven weeks.
So this was not some thing that happened for like most of 2020.
It was a blip.
It was decided at the state, not federal level.
I want to point out too, that the six or seven week one probably would have worked everywhere
and would have done a lot for us.
But you had idiots in other places were like, well, Texas is going to stay open.
And then they go, people would go down to Texas and come back and get a bunch of fucking
people sick.
Exactly.
And you're like, well, why even have it closed then?
Yep.
And isn't it also really something when somebody like Trump is like, well, you know, Fauci made
a lot of money and like, what that's supposed to do is rile me up.
I'm supposed to be mad that Fauci made a lot of money.
There's a billionaire guys, riling you up about somebody else making a lot of money.
Yeah.
Even if that's true, right?
Which it's not like it's not true, but I just think it's really something when the billionaires
weaponize the idea of follow the money.
And you're like, all right, but I mean,
a billion or more goes to you.
Shouldn't I follow your money chucklefuck?
And they're like, ah, I earned it through
the meritocracy of inheritance.
God.
Also, not just Fauci lost this,
there was a bunch of other people, Bolton and other people
lost there.
Because these are all, this is 100% him going after people politically.
This is him pulling the security from those people because what he wants to do is he wants
to attack them in any way that he can.
And if he can make them feel less safe, that's what he's going to do.
And so that's what he chose to do.
And even Lindsey Graham didn't even like this.
Lindsey Graham was like,
we need to call an inquirer into this
to see whether he did this because he was,
you know, like where he's trying to persecute people
through the office, right?
He's trying to use the office as a weapon.
And Lindsey Graham is like,
hey man, we need to look into that.
Lindsey Graham is saying we need to look into that.
That's fucking wild.
We're nine days in, man.
Nine days.
And like, just in case anyone's like,
ah, it's probably, like remember that Nancy Pelosi's husband
was beaten almost to death with a hammer
in an act of politicized violence.
And Trump, and by the way, the Trump family made fun of them.
So if somebody were to say release a bunch of people
who have already committed violence from prison,
Right.
I mean, it's pretty easy to say, oh, by the way, that guy's out.
No.
Dude, for real.
I'm just, I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying that that's going to happen.
I mean.
But I'm not saying it's not going to happen.
Watch helplessly as I begin...
Phase 2!
I'm switching people's mail around! That's illegal! No! This story comes from NBC News.
Trump administration offers roughly 2 million federal workers a buyout to resign.
This is part of that attempt to massively curtail the size of the US government.
Now keep in mind that when these things happen,
this will, if this is even legal,
which it's questionable whether this is even legal,
if it's even legal and some significant portion
of these people take a buyout to resign,
which by the way, on an individual basis,
I wouldn't fucking blame anybody.
I wouldn't wanna work for these motherfuckers either.
But this will have significant downstream effects
on our lives, on our lives.
Where do you think the people who inspect your food
at the USDA, right?
There are government workers.
There are government workers constantly at play making sure that we are safe,
making sure that like when you take a medicine, it has that medicine in it.
Because sometimes it doesn't and people have to knock on doors and get in trouble.
And like people have to like knock on doors and make sure that it's not some fucking Upton Sinclair shit
and you're eating fucking ground up rat carcasses because that's some shit that happened
until we fucking regulated it.
And there's people in place making sure at the CFPB, for example, a much maligned industry,
something you guys talked about on the no Rogan experience, the CFPB is the direct result.
They call it like Elizabeth Warren's committee or whatever.
It's not her bureau.
It's not her bureau.
She helped to spearhead it.
That's it.
But like, that's the result of the housing crisis crash
from 2008 that caused a global recession, global,
because we had unregulated that entire industry.
This is like, there are people cheering this
because they're sure that these guys are doing nothing
but buying $600 toilet seats all day.
And they're these other people making sure that when you go
outside and you fill a fucking prescription at the pharmacy, that it's
got what it says it has in there.
Yeah.
That's important shit, the stuff that they're doing.
And, and I want to point out too, this is in conjunction, right?
So these, these letters go out, by the way, we were contacted by someone
who works in the government.
They sent us this letter before this story broke.
So we were actually sent the letter
that everybody else was sent.
And this person said, please don't say my name,
but you know, like I work for a government agency
and I was sent this letter.
And they basically, so I knew this story
before I ever even saw this story
because someone had sent it to our email.
And basically what they did was they copied
Elon Musk's subject line when he sent this out to Twitter,
a fork in the road.
They basically copied what Elon Musk did
when he asked all these Twitter devs,
if they, I will pay you to leave,
essentially pay you to leave.
You got nine months worth of pay.
You go ahead and leave.
All you have to do is reply
to this with resign, and you can resign.
And they send this form, it's a big long form
that just says, you wanna resign, you get nine months
of pay, you're done, that's the end.
They are coupling this with the removal of work from home.
So it's a really great way to, because what they wanna do
is they wanna get rid of all those people, right?
So all the work from home people they wanted to get rid of. So they say, well, you got to come back to the office.
Well, there's a lot of people in government that are like, well, fuck you, this is my job.
I got to come back to the office. I'll come back to the office. This is what it is.
Some people can't. They moved out of state. They did other stuff. They have different plans.
They're planning on moving some of these agencies like you suggested. They're moving across the
country. So they're already planning on uprooting a lot of people that already work there. They're
already planning on changing a bunch of people,
a bunch of federal workers' lives for the worst anyway,
but they wanna make sure that they get it,
they scrape as much as they can off.
And so if you couple it with the work from home,
the seizing of the work from home piece,
then you say, you have a bunch of people who see that
and say, well, I gotta go in every day,
or I can get nine months of salary
and try to find a new job.
Yeah.
Maybe I'll do that instead.
And then they say resign,
and then they get what they want.
And I just wanna say this
to all the government workers out there,
I have never met anybody as stubborn as a government worker.
That is true, man.
Man, go to the DMV and make a fuss.
Make a fuss at the DMV and see how long you fucking wait.
Watch what the...
Do that at the post office.
Do something at the post office to one of those postal workers.
Make a fuss there where you're being an asshole.
They will make you...
They will hurt your soul.
They will make your life miserable for every second.
They will mail a clerk to you to help you.
That's how long it will take.
It'll take a...
I'm serious though.
There is a level of, I think, stubbornness
to some of the people who work in government
that I really admire.
And I think this is your time.
This is your moment to utilize that stubbornness
for as much as you can dig your heels in.
Because the person who sent us a message was like, I'm not going anywhere.
Yeah. But like the thing is, if you did, I wouldn't blame you because if I got this,
part of me would say, I'm not welcome here. And maybe I can resign and get nine months,
or maybe they'll fire me in six and I get nothing. That's a real possibility.
You know, so here's my crazy Tom Curry
conspiracy theory about this.
Do you want it? Let's do it.
This is bullshit, unfounded, conspiratorial nonsense.
I'm gonna ride down this conspiracy train.
Wanna run it? All right.
So Trump has made it very, very, very clear
that he wants lower interest rates.
He wants the Fed fund rate to go down.
He's made it very clear.
He's mad as hell that he can't control it. He thinks he should have control over
it. The Fed secretary is basically like, fuck you, I'm not quitting. We'll do what
we won't do. However, the Fed funds rate is like they're looking very heavy at
key inflation data and the most important piece of inflation data that
they're looking at is the jobs data. So when the jobs data comes out, that jobs
data has a bigger impact on whether or not the Fed is going to move rates than CPI data
does than the consumer price index data does. If a million people all of a sudden become unemployed,
the jobs data will look bad.
And if the jobs data looks bad,
that will force the hand of the feds to reduce rates.
Add into that the immigration thing.
Yeah.
So if you can create a bad month or two of jobs data,
not because the economy isn't working well,
but because you fired a million people
or you forced a million people to resign
or even two or 300,000 would do it.
You don't actually have to have a million.
You will dramatically alter at least that jobs data enough
to force the Fed's hand to reduce interest rates,
which is what billionaires wanna do
because they'll make a lot more fucking money reduce interest rates, which is what billionaires want to do because they'll make
a lot more fucking money with interest rates going down. So if I'm a billionaire, this is actually a
way for me not to like just curtail the size of the government, but to personally benefit by forcing
the fed's hand to reduce interest rates. I don't know. That doesn't sound like a conspiracy
theory. It sounds like an economic theory. And it could, I mean, maybe he's just wants to...
You know, there's definitely a piece of it where there's a lot of actors in the government
that right now that want to break it.
Yes.
But maybe there's happy accidents that can be had for his billionaire friends and they
recognize that they're smart enough because they're not billionaires because they're stupid.
Right?
Right?
Other than Trump. He's a billionaire because he's stupid.
But like all the rest of them, I think,
are probably pretty smart dudes,
or at least have smart people who work for them.
You can afford it, that's for sure.
But I also think too,
if you add the immigration stuff in there, right?
Make the economy start freaking out
because there's, you know, people aren't coming to work,
so there's no produce, there's no eggs.
Those jobs are now open because those people don't come back.
There's all this other unrest too.
That could throw things in the mix
that could also create more of a sort of tempest
that might also move that needle too.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
And like, remember too, that during the height
of some of the inflationary periods during COVID
and just like post COVID,
remember that many of those big corporations
posted record profits during that time.
So we eat shit on the bottom,
but at the top, they're screwing McDuck.
Yeah, it's fucking Chateaubriand time.
Yeah, they're gonna love their life.
So to some degree, a certain amount of runaway inflation
is good for the oligarchs.
Yeah, it's great for them.
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Yeah, so people are mad at this gesture.
All this gesture means is heil Hitler. This is all this gesture means is heil Hitler.
This is all this gesture means. This is a gesture signifying your support for Hitler.
Hitler was a politician in Germany in the 1940s.
People had varying degrees of, you know,
some people really liked what he did.
A lot of people were not into it. And that's fair.
And I think when we look back on history,
a lot of, you know, now, you know what I mean?
It's like things that happened then,
like we'd never do now.
And I think that's, Hitler,
we run into that a little bit with Hitler.
So I think this Hitler thing is just one of those things
that,
you know, he's just hiling Hitler.
And people seem really upset about that.
I think they think that means something else.
He's just saying, I like Hitler.
That's not...
All right, this story comes from Reuters.
Trump to prepare a facility at Guantanamo
for 30,000 migrants.
Here's your camps.
It is. Here's your camps. It is.
Here's your camps.
I mean, that was also something we talked about, right?
We had a conversation about this and, you know,
one of the things that we initially thought
was they were gonna maybe use some of that land
that they had already set aside before the election
for camps in Texas.
They had said they were gonna build a bunch of things,
but, you know, this all plays into the private owned
facilities that we have.
This all plays into increasing a police state.
This all plays into, it's all the negative stuff
that came with Project 2025
that's all really positive for Trump.
It's all the pros for him and the cons for us.
And this is one of those moments where you're seeing a guy
who hates immigrants and Tom Holman,
who wants to do what he can to try to convince everybody
that everybody's a dangerous immigrant.
We had Christine Noem on the street this week
taking a selfie of herself with a bulletproof vest on,
saying, getting dirt bags off the street in New York.
She posted that.
I fucking hate her.
So maybe she just went and killed the dog after that.
Jesus Christ.
I'm sure there's a dog somewhere she could kill.
You know, she gets somebody, she'd be like,
get a dog I can strangle in here.
Preferably a puppy.
Yeah, like a puppy.
I want a puppy. Yeah, can we get a dog I can strangle in here. Preferably a puppy. Yeah, like a puppy. I want a puppy.
Yeah, can we get a puppy in here?
But, you know, so these people, they are all monsters.
We knew they were monsters beforehand.
They get brought in to do this monstrous act
and they're going to be creating this detention center.
We're already deporting people,
but they're gonna be putting people in this detention center. we're already deporting people, but they're gonna be putting people
in this detention center, and you know what?
How does that bring down our taxes?
How is our taxes lower by turning this
into a 30,000 migrant center?
How does that lower our taxes?
No, we're not saving a fucking dollar individually.
Nobody's effective tax rate is going to be reduced.
Again, it's not going to happen.
Like maybe they'll make some changes around the margins for the millionaires and billionaire
class by extending the 2017 tax cuts, which were already a fucking blow job to billionaires.
Right?
So like, but your taxes as a W-2 guy? Go fuck yourself sideways. You're not
saving a buck. You know, you'll especially not save a dollar because, you know, the price is all of
your goods and services are going to skyrocket. Yeah, I mean, look at eggs right now. Look at eggs
right now. All right, so one thing about Guantanamo Bay to recognize too is these are not U.S. citizens
and that's not in America. Yeah, man. How do you think they're gonna be treated?
Yeah, and that's why they had it over there.
Yeah.
Like the reason why they created it.
Gosh, we were talking about this
in some of the earliest podcasts that we've done.
Where we were like, what a horror
that you can get taken there and you have no rights.
Because it's not the United States
and they treated it as such.
Look, you can see the groundwork for the mistreatment and the new legal labeling already taking place.
What's one of the first things that happened is he signed an executive order declaring an invasion,
right? So what was the thing that we did with the people in Guantanamo Bay? We created a new legal
definition which we called them non-combatant, we called them some bullshit, like non-combatant detainees,
something along those lines, right?
We created a new legal framework
where we got to say that they're not prisoners of war
because then they would be subject
to the Geneva Convention.
So we did not call them prisoners of war.
We created a new legal framework.
That new legal framework said,
you're not a citizen, you're not entitled to due process.
You're not a prisoner of war, you're not subject to the Geneva Convention. You're this new third
thing. We can stick you in Cuba and torture you. We made it up. We invented it. That's a true,
those are all true sentences. Trump has declared an invasion at the southern border,
declared an emergency from that invasion, will absolutely redefine these human beings,
these migrant human beings, men, women, and children,
seeking a better life,
he will declare them as some kind of third legal entity.
They will not be refugees or asylum seekers or citizens.
They will be something else.
They will maybe be declared terrorists, Cecil.
If they're part of an invasion, right,
that would not be a legal stretch.
Then he moves them to Guantanamo Bay.
They are not citizens, they're not on US soil.
They have no rights of due process.
I wanna look to see if I can find that name up
because that was illegal enemy combatants.
Illegal enemy combatants.
So if you're part of an invasion,
might you not be an illegal enemy combatant, Cecil?
Well, I'll tell you, they already don't have the same rules
about due process that we do, right?
Right.
When you break, when they come in
and they break immigration rules.
So they already don't have the same rules that affect them.
So yeah, we're in a weird spot.
We're in a spot that's really, really difficult.
And it's important to, I think at this point,
it's important for us to do what we can
to try to make sure that we help those immigrants
around us that are around us
and give to immigrant organizations
and organizations that are gonna be able to sue
for certain things.
My hope is that a lot of this stuff gets injunctions on it and it goes to court and it takes a
while for it to go to court and it slows down for the first term of Trump's presidency enough
so that we won't have to worry about it.
That, you know, like if they put an injunction on it and there's enough delays, just like
what Trump did, right?
Just like what Trump did when he was getting accused, he did all the delay stuff.
If there's some way for us to create an injunction and then do some delays in
order for it to stay as, you know, because, because the judge will do something like,
Hey, this is hurting people and we're going to not do that until we get a legal
ruling that says, yes, well, there's other ways to slow things down and you've got
to slow things down in the opposite direction where things don't happen in the courts right away, just like what Trump did
so that eventually, you know, he could be out of office and it won't matter.
You know, it might not be the worst idea to prepare your attic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I also want to point out for anyone prior to the election saying both sides are
just as bad.
Are they fucking really? Are they really?
Are they?
You still believe that?
Dumbass.
No, man, I think like we saw the writing on the wall
and there's gonna be a lot of leopards eating faces.
Even people who, you know,
there's gonna be people who are gonna be picked up that are gonna be,
and it's not just inconvenience,
like one of the things that people will say,
and I saw it on a comment thread this week
where somebody said,
what do I care if somebody's inconvenienced for a few hours
as long as they're American citizens
they can prove who they are, it's not a big deal,
you know, like it is.
Jesus.
And I thought to myself, it's like, yeah,
that's said by, from somebody who clearly
isn't ever gonna be inconvenienced by this, but the thing,
the fact of the matter is, is that you don't get
representation when you're detained for immigration.
So it's not like if you go to jail time,
you'll get representation if you don't have a lawyer.
If you don't have a lawyer,
we have to provide work for you.
That's how the system works.
Well, that's not how it works with immigration.
They don't have to do that.
So this guy was a citizen,
but they never provided him with a lawyer.
So he never was able to prove it.
He stayed in custody for three years.
Jesus fucking Christ.
He's an American citizen.
And then they released him from prison.
And they're like, fuck, we fucked up.
Sorry, here's $80,000.
Oh my God, $80,000 for three years of his life?
Then they were gonna give him $80,000.
And then the government said, nah, we're not going to do that.
And then he took him to court and he lost.
He lost?
Yeah.
He lost.
He lost.
Three years of his life, he was kidnapped and held against his will for three years
of his life.
And then he gets nothing.
Oh my God.
Nothing for the problem.
So I realize that people want to make up this, this bullshit idea that it's all, it's just a little inconvenience.
Why don't you have be inconvenience for three years for your life? Now,
I know that's not the norm, right? But it can happen. Jesus.
It can fucking happen. So this,
and having more government enforcement in your life is not good.
It's just not good period. So even, and it's certainly like, look,
they're never going to come up to me and be like,
show me your papers.
So I'm never gonna be inconvenienced by this, right?
But there's a lot of people out there
that'll be inconvenienced by this.
And it's not just inconvenience, it's hassled.
It's psychologically injured.
Always thinking somebody's watching you.
Always thinking, like always worried
that if you'd go to the store,
am I gonna get wind up in the back of some fucking thing if I don't have my passport on me? and always thinking somebody's watching you, always thinking, like always worried that if you'd go to the store,
am I gonna get wind up in the back of some fucking thing
if I don't have my passport on me?
What kind of fucking country do we wanna have?
They think it's to make the streets safer.
That's what they keep on lying about.
And they keep on saying these lies over and over
to make the streets safer.
They're picking up just regular old people.
They're not just, a lot of these people
aren't hardened criminals.
And the hardened criminals,
we already were going after anyway.
Yeah, man.
Like I think that when you see,
whenever I hear stuff like that,
I can't help but think, God, what, like,
if I got picked up, just Tom Curry,
if I got picked up tomorrow
and thrown in some fucking jail
for six months or a year
or three years, like I'm the breadwinner.
I'm the only breadwinner in my family.
Like that's not just me that's inconvenienced.
It's like, how are my, how are my kids going to continue to live in their home?
Like where, where are they going to get the money for food and housing and shelter and,
you know, school from?
Like, it's not just that guy.
Like everybody is connected to somebody.
That's the other thing, like we sort of like,
refuse to believe in our microscopic viewing
of these things.
If you throw Tom Curry in jail,
also like if you throw me in jail,
it's not a safe place for me to be.
And maybe something bad happens to me in a detention center
because detention centers are not as safe.
I don't know, maybe a global pandemic
runs through a detention center like a fucking wildfire
because that has happened, you know?
Or maybe like some other person in detention
has a problem with me.
Like it's not safe.
It's not just stealing three years of my time.
It's potentially devastating somebody's entire family.
Well, and it's not just that.
Like even as just think of it's like a couple days.
Let's say you're in convenience for a couple days
or a day even.
Yeah.
You could lose your job over that.
Sure, yeah.
Many, many, many, many, many people.
You could lose your job.
So what if you're on your last strike at work
and they pick you up on the way to work
and you're only an hour late? right? You know what I mean? Like,
like it's easy to look at that from the outside and be like, Oh, it's not anything. Yeah. It's
not. It's just little inconvenience. Yeah. It can ruin somebody's life. It can ruin somebody's life.
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This story's from LGBTQ Nation.
Right-wingers tell Bishop to die
because she begged Donald Trump to have mercy on trans kids.
This is a whole thing.
This Bishop that was at this Episcopal church,
she said this comment, she
basically just pleaded with Trump, said, I hope that you'll be merciful.
Yeah.
Like, please be merciful.
I'm not going to repeat their words.
It's religious words.
I don't care.
Right.
But that's pretty much what it amounts to.
That's pretty much what it amounts to.
And he flipped his fucking lid.
People in the government are saying this woman should be deported.
I mean, these are literal senators, and senators, but congresspeople are saying she should be
deported with like, they're telling, like she is just a person. They're like, they need
to deport her. And you're like, what the fuck is wrong with this country? I mean, I know
it was going to be bad, but I didn't think it was going to be that bad that fast.
Yeah. Just, Hey, maybe let's not be cruel. And then a lot of the backlash,
a tremendous amount of the backlash is,
this is why we're not supposed to have women bishops.
Women should not be allowed to speak in the church.
The backlash against a woman speaking truth to power
is always different.
When women speak truth to power,
they are always singled out in more hateful and vitriolic and violent ways
than when men do it. And this puts a target on this woman's back specifically because of her
status as a woman. Yeah. And this should tell anybody, I know that we probably don't have any
churchgoers in our audience, probably not. But if we did, or if you know somebody who's a churchgoer,
this should tell you everything you need to know
about what they think of, what the right
and what the Christian right thinks of women.
This should tell you everything you need to know.
Read their comments about the horrible shit
they've said to her and the ways in which they said
that she should shut her fucking mouth,
we shouldn't have to listen to a woman,
women shouldn't speak.
They find that verse real quickly
when it's a woman
in their church that they don't want to have her talk.
They forget that verse exists when we bring it up to them.
Yeah, they don't like it then
because they're embarrassed by it.
But once they, if they can use it, they sure as shit well.
So this is one of those things that,
if you're a believer, if you're somebody who thinks
the church is good and the church is a good place,
look at all these hateful vitriolic comments towards this woman, weaponizing religion against her.
And two things to point out. I was wrong when I just said they're embarrassed when we bring
it up. They're not embarrassed anymore. They used to be, but now they're emboldened. Now
they're emboldened. Now it's my body, my choice. They're emboldened, right? Now they're emboldened. Now it's my body, my choice.
They're emboldened in their express
and open hatred of women.
It's out loud in everything now.
So the other thing is it's interesting to note
how when they do that, what they're refusing to do
is engage with the concept that's actually being discussed.
It is like when they're-
It's ad hominem.
It's ad hominem.
You're a woman.
I don't have to listen to you seriously
because you're a woman.
I don't have to take the subject of mercy seriously.
In fact, I won't even engage the topic of mercy.
I'll just attack you as a person.
It's so fucking transparent.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
But, you know, this is also something
that I think we as people on the left need to seize on.
Yeah, yeah.
This is a moment for us, you know, I know there's a lot of people who are hurt by religion.
I know that you exist, right?
I get messages from you on the other show that I do where you guys yell at me because
I talked to a guy who's religious.
Okay.
That shows canceled by the way, canceled this week.
But, but on that lawful assembly show, I, I'm saying I used to do, I just released an
episode this week. It's the last episode, but on lawful assembly, I'm saying I used to do, I just released an episode this week, it's the last episode.
But on Lawful Assembly, I was talking to a religious guy
and I got messages from people who were hurt by religion,
who didn't like that I had conversations that were friendly
with someone who was religious and a reverent, right?
Somebody who was a reverent.
And they didn't like that idea that there's sort of like
this back and forth between the two of us.
But Craig is a very nice person, he's a wonderful person.
And so like, there's a lot I can learn
about empathy from Craig, right?
There's a lot I can learn.
He's not only a friend of mine,
but he's also a great person to talk to
because he teaches me a lot about how to be
in some ways a better person.
And I love that about him.
So, but I think that this is a moment.
And like I say, I know there's a lot of people
who don't like religion, but I say that this is a moment and I, and like I say, I know there's a lot of people who don't like religion, but I say that this is a moment we need to reach across
the way and say, look, look at how these people hate you.
Look at how they hate you.
Let's make a big 10 over here.
Let's make a big 10 that just includes all the people they hate because they hate so
many people.
Do they hate most people?
They hate so many people.
Yeah.
They hate the, the, the number of people that they hate outweighs so, I mean, it's not even close
when you think about the people that they like.
So let's just band together.
We're people they hate.
There were people they don't want to see thrive.
We're people they don't want to see happy.
Let's all go be happy in this big tent together and let's get rid of them once and for all.
Let's get rid of these bad, awful, hateful, hurtful people
and let's all go over here.
And that's gonna include religious people.
And that's gonna include some people that may be like,
I don't ideologically line up with, and that's okay.
Let's make a really big tent over here
of all the people that they hate.
Yeah, and remind them too,
because that's exactly the right strategy, man.
And I think you've got to remind them that,
if it's not you today, it will be you tomorrow.
Yeah, it's that old poem.
Yeah, when they came for the trans kids,
I said nothing because I wasn't trans, right?
That keeps working.
So you as a woman, you can't say,
well, I'm not saying these things.
So they're not gonna come after me.
They will come after you.
To your point, the people they hate, it's most people.
It's most.
Your re-education depends on your unquestioning acceptance
of any and every order given by the state.
Spent a lot of time on Trump,
but it has been a rough week.
It's been nine fucking days.
It's been a rough week, so we gotta spend a little time here talking about this stuff.
This is a brand new fresh hell.
Let me play this clip.
Yeah.
So we can play this clip.
I think it's in here.
Let me double check.
There's a Hannity clip in here.
There it is.
Let me put this on the big screen and then we'll play it.
So this idea here is what we're going to watch is a little piece of Hannity.
And this is Trump who's complaining about, he's complaining about FEMA and he's complaining about how hard it is to rebuild after devastation.
And he's very specifically trying to pit two parts of the country that just had disasters.
One is Los Angeles and the other is North Carolina.
And so what he's doing is he's trying to pit those two
against each other as one is a good place that needs aid
and one isn't.
And at the end, he will eventually conclude,
it sounds like that he just wants to get rid of FEMA.
So here's Trump talking about,
it's only about a minute long.
I will say that Los Angeles has changed everything because a lot of money is going to be necessary
for Los Angeles and a lot of people on the other side want that to happen.
North Carolina too.
Well they don't care about North Carolina.
The Democrats don't care about North Carolina.
What they've done with FEMA is so bad.
FEMA is a whole other discussion because all it does is complicate everything.
FEMA has not done their job for the last four years.
You know, I had FEMA working really well.
We had hurricanes in Florida.
We had Alabama tornadoes.
But unless you have certain types of leadership,
it's really, it gets in the way.
And FEMA is gonna be a whole big discussion very shortly
because I'd rather see the states
take care of their own problems.
If they have a tornado someplace
and if they let that state,
Oklahoma is very competent.
I love Oklahoma.
77 out of 77 districts.
And that's never been done.
Okay, so he has to end with, I won there by a lot.
He has to make sure to say that.
So it's funny, I heard this same clip on another show
that I listened to, and they fact-checked some of this.
He did not win 77 out of 77 districts.
That's just not a thing.
Like, it's just like, no, you didn't man. No, you just
did it. Like that's just like, it's never been done before. Yeah. It's just a straight
up like untrue thing. And like Oklahoma is a weird state to point to and be like, yeah,
yeah, well, we'll use Oklahoma as an example of a state that's too, Oklahoma is one of
the worst states in this country by almost every
measure that we measure states by.
I also want to point out too, I realize and I live in a tornado place.
Tornadoes are a different thing than a hurricane or a fire.
Yes, they're smaller.
They're smaller.
Way smaller, man.
They can be big.
I'm not saying that you can't have large.
They can't be hurricane big.
I know, but you can't, like you can have a lot of devastation.
And you can have multiple tornadoes. You've seen that too, right?
So I'm not saying it's nothing. So please don't say to me, Mr. Be like,
I've been through plenty of tornadoes in my life.
I was in the mall when the Plainfield tornado hit.
I was literally four blocks away.
They had to fucking crawl underneath fucking in JCPenney under clothes
So tell me and I've been in a tornado. I've been a lot of tornadoes in my life real devastating ones
So I know what I know the damage there is nothing like a hurricane
No, there is nothing like these wildfires right those two things are so
so
Amazingly different, you know even you know sometimes even even
earthquake damage can be hyper localized in comparison to some of the damage that happens with some of these giant full state
Wildfires and in like an entire state gets washed out by a hurricane
So they're told they're in a different a different you're comparing apples orange. Yeah, it's a it's a matter of scale
Yeah
It's just a matter of scale like I'm not saying that like, I want to be clear, like some people don't, when a tornado comes by,
if you're in the path of that tornado, it can be total devastation. It could be the total devastation.
100%. But they're not as big as hurricanes. They're just not as big by volume. They don't have
both wind and flooding damage typically. Like the idea that we're gonna just leave that up
to the states.
Again, do I get my money back?
No, you don't get your money back.
None of us are getting our money back.
So FEMA does a great job.
I love how in this clip he's like,
yeah, when I ran FEMA, FEMA was great.
They really helped a lot of people.
But the solution now that I'm in charge again
is to not help anybody.
If you think FEMA was mismanaged for the last four years,
why wouldn't you say,
we're gonna get FEMA whipped up in a good shape
like it was when I was in charge before?
Why wouldn't that be your plan?
Instead, your plan is,
hey, we're just gonna let every state
handle their own business, and that's gonna be it.
The reason to do that is because it's in California now.
And he's got a grudge against Gavin Newsom, and he always has.
This is a personal vengeance against a blue state
that has thwarted him at several turns.
He's gonna let people suffer so that he can sneer.
That's what he's gonna do.
You're not wrong.
I think that there's a real problem here because he has two options.
He can kill FEMA like he's suggesting.
Kill FEMA completely or dismantle it to the point where it's not giving out any real aid.
Right?
Right.
So he could do that.
And if he does that, then he's hurting not just blue states, he's hurting red states.
And there's more red states than there are blue states.
And there's more red states in the hurricane zone.
There's more red states that get more major natural natural disasters than blue states.
So he's going to fuck up and really alienate a bunch of people who aren't going to be able
to get help when the next big disaster happens.
Because trust me, Trump himself is a disaster.
So the disasters will continue.
Guaranteed, we will see hurricanes aplenty this year.
We're going to see plenty of opportunity for that to continue.
And it's not going to get any better under Trump.
Trust me on that.
There's going to be more global warming.
And it's going to be all, no breaks for about four years.
So enjoy a higher chance of those storms
and those problems like we saw in California happen.
Those things can happen.
So he's gonna hurt red states more than blue states.
If he decides to withhold only from California,
then he's gonna get taken to court.
He's gonna get taken to court for sure.
And it's either gonna wind up with,
you pay them the money, shut the fuck up,
we're a country, that's how this works,
or they're gonna side with him,
and then that would mean that would be the end of FEMA.
Right, and you know, the thing is like,
It's a bad situation.
It's a terrible,
Because he's a terrible leader.
He's a terrible fucking person.
And I think he is gonna eat a lot of shit on this
because remember that when FEMA shows up and they help,
they get no credit.
But if they don't show up, he will get blamed.
George Bush ate so much shit
when FEMA didn't show up fast enough for,
and don't get me wrong, I mean, he fucked that up so bad.
Yeah, he did a terrible job.
Brownie, you're doing a hell of a job, Brownie.
Yeah, that guy fucked up Katrina so fucking bad.
People dying, no fucking supplies getting in.
It was flooded.
They didn't know what to do.
George Bush is fucking can't find his ass with two hands.
That was a fucking disaster of a president.
Terrible.
And he fucked that up royally.
If there's one Katrina on his, that would be a blessing because that's, Katrina's our
normal thing now.
So expect a horror under Trump if he decides to withhold this sort of stuff.
Expect a horror.
Do you know what scares me the most, Cecil, is another Hurricane Maria type event that
destroys Puerto Rico.
And I don't think Trump considers Puerto Rico proper part of America that he's responsible
for. I mean, if he doesn't consider California... We're marching to a faster pace.
Look out, here comes the master race.
Stories from Politico.
Musk tells Germans to get over past guilt in speech to far-right AFD rally.
There's another Nazi thing that happened today that we should mention.
Joe. The UFC. Oh, yeah. Yeah. UFC fighters
Bryce Mitchell praised
Hitler said he was a guy who would like to go fishing with Jesus fucking Christ until he got on the meth
Yeah until he got on the meth and he I mean it's just it's just not only is a
hateful hurtful tirade that he goes and it's short, it's only two minutes.
I'm not gonna play it on the show,
because it's just horrible.
But like, he goes after trans people and gay people
in a major way against the Jews too.
So it's a really anti-semitic, anti-trans, anti-gay rant
that he goes on talking about how great Hitler was.
And the UFC is doing nothing about it, by the way.
Nothing, they're doing nothing.
They denounced it in a very soft way
in one press conference.
They said, we don't agree with it.
Like who fucking cares what you agree with?
Dana White, who beats his wife.
Just by the way, just so that we don't forget, right?
Just so that we never forget.
Dana White, a man who beats his wife and now sits on the board of't forget, right? Just so that we never forget. Dana White, a man who beats his wife
and now sits on the board of Metta, right?
So just to kind of like put those pieces in place for you.
He sat there and goes,
ah, some stupid shit, that guy's a real dummy.
And then they asked him point blank,
are you gonna do anything about it?
And he's like, no, free speech.
I believe in free speech.
And you're like, well, free speech
actually specifically refers to,
government is not allowed to curtail your speech. Use your free speech to watch Bellator from now
on. Yeah, right. Use your free speech to watch, uh, one fighting network. Don't watch, uh,
don't watch, don't watch UFC anymore. Watch something else. Watch the undercard and something
else. Don't watch UFC. Stop giving these people your money. These people don't deserve your
money. Don't pay for UFC pay per views. Don't go out to the bar the night the UFC is on. Stop following their fighters. Don't
pay attention to it. I know fighting in the UFC is exciting. I've watched it. I watched
it for many years. I haven't watched it in many years because the pay-per-views are fucking
prohibitively expensive and you're going to pay like seven. It feels like a, it's like
a $70 a month payment just to watch the. Now they have UFC every 10 minutes too.
So I quit doing it.
But even if you are in that mindset, and trust me, I liked the fight.
I enjoyed watching it.
It was a fun combat sport to watch.
But I just stopped doing it myself.
And now I urge everybody else, stop paying that person money.
Stop giving them.
Do we need to stop?
We need to really think about the money that we're giving out and just stop giving these awful people money. Stop giving them. Do we need to stop? We need to really think about the money that we're giving out and just stop giving these awful people money. If there's no incentive
for Dana White to fire a Nazi, then why give him your dollars? Why give him your pay per view
dollars? Dana White still has a job on Monday because people will still pay for pay per views,
even though there's a Nazi fighting him.
And then that, and like, that's not hyperbole, man.
The guy said he wanted to go fishing with Hitler.
I don't know how, I don't know how.
Like, I know that there's gonna be all these people
that are gonna be like, wait, he's not really a Nazi.
I mean, come on, he's not really a Nazi.
Are we, what are we doing here?
Anyone fishing with Hitler is a Nazi.
I feel like if you share a tackle box with Hitler, for real,
you're casting the same poll with the Nazi.
You really are.
I want to touch on the Elon Musk.
I know we talked about it last time,
but it just, something made me laugh
when I thought about it.
You know, like there's all these,
still these same simpy idiots who are being like,
it's not, it was not a Nazi salute.
And I thought to myself as I was driving today,
okay, so then make a Nazi salute
that doesn't look like that.
Do a Nazi salute.
If that's not it, then just show me what it actually looks like.
That's a great point,
because I saw the exact opposite, which I liked,
which was like this lady on CNN, this guy was like,
oh, all these truthers talking about a Nazi salute
and ladies like do it right now.
She's like, you do it right now.
She's like, if it's not anything, do it.
Do what he did, do it right now.
And the guy wouldn't do it.
I want to say to those people too,
don't just do it on CNN,
do it at a Rage Against the Machine concert and see
what happens. If it's not anything, if it's just my heart is going out to you, then go
to a Rage Against the Machine concert.
Bring your heart out to other people.
Look up at Tom Morello, whatever his name is, and tell him your heart goes out to him
and see if he doesn't put his Doc Martin down your throat off the stage.
See if those people that are at that concert
don't drag you out of there by your hair.
Doing it a punk show, right?
That you're a liar.
You're a fucking liar.
It's 100% a Nazi sloop.
Not just, and I love your solution,
which is show me what a real one looks like.
Yeah, like that I'm confused.
If that's not it, then show me, give me a picture, a video,
do it yourself. Great point. But this is, this is also, and this, we talked about it last time.
He went back to Twitter. You know, it's true. You know, he's trying to troll people because he
went back to Twitter to make Nazi puns. And now he's at a far right German rally saying they need to make sure that they don't pay
the price for their ancestors.
Yeah.
Look, if Elon Musk is not a fucking Nazi, it is a strange coincidence that in the same
10 day period, he did two not quite Nazi salutes and then told a bunch of people, don't feel
bad about the Holocaust.
You've got a lot to apologize for musk apologists.
Feels like those two things actually fit together pretty nicely.
You know, if I'm a white South African, showing up.
What does South Africa have a history of racism?
For it, right?
Like guys, guys, like here is a billionaire white South African
who has no business talking to the Germans about their ancestry
at all.
Opining about how they shouldn't have bad feelings for the Nazi stuff that happened.
But he's not a Nazi?
He's not a Nazi.
Then like, what the fuck is a Nazi?
What does he even mean anymore?
What do you have to do? Do you have to have a fucking Lego set of Buchenwald?
Like, what do you fuck, would that not be it?
What is the thing that then makes you a Nazi?
I don't even know.
At this point, the Overton window is literally not in sight anymore.
It's like on the South Pole.
You can't even see it anymore.
I'm about to say it.
I don't care that you broke your elbow.
This story is from Yahoo News.
Man pardoned by Trump over January 6th is shot dead by police and traffic stop.
I texted this to Cecil and he texted back.
He died as he lived a horrible menace to society.
Yeah, man.
Look, here's the deal.
This isn't a one off case either.
Trump pardoned people with horrible, horrible crimes.
They had horrible crimes on their record
and he pardoned them
because they were a part of January 6th.
So don't make no mistake,
when they're gonna lie to you
and say we're getting criminals off the street,
he released a horrible, dangerous group of people
into the United States.
100%.
And so don't believe him when he says that he's out there
to fight crime when it comes to immigrants.
He's plenty fine with homegrown crime, it turns out.
And this guy, man, these people, they're dangerous.
There's a reason they got put behind bars, right?
There's a reason why these dangerous people went to prison.
They went to prison, he got released, and this guy,
they're talking about people who have,, like they have like gun charges now against them.
One person was accused of rape before.
It's like this awful group of people.
Imagine that imagine that we have a cohort of people who on January 20th violently stormed
the Capitol, beat the police,
broke the windows, attacked people with sticks,
showed up armed to the teeth,
were chanting to hang the vice president,
and all of a sudden we're supposed to be like,
huh, I'm super surprised that cohort of people
turned out to be a bunch of dirt bag shitheads.
What did you think they were?
They showed you who they were.
Like all that America needs to do
is fucking believe your eyes.
We're constantly being sold that the thing you just saw,
you didn't see, it's double speak.
It is double speak.
That's what's happening.
You are being told that January 6th was not a riot,
that it was a day of love.
You're being sold that idea. You're being sold that idea.
You're being sold that the people who went to jail were hostages rather than criminals.
They're fucking criminals.
We saw it happen.
It's on tape.
Hundreds of hours.
It was violent as fuck.
We know that it was...
You're being told not to believe the things that you see.
You're being constantly told that thing didn't happen.
That thing didn't happen.
You didn't see what you saw. Yeah, you did
Just fucking believe your own eyes. That's it. There's nothing but we're just not doing it man
We're not doing it. We're letting ourselves be sold that like well, maybe that wasn't a Nazi salute. Yes, it was
Maybe though, maybe that guy wasn't violent. He's beating a cop with a fire extinguisher, man.
Like what else do you have to do?
Like stop, stop and look at the things and be like, that's the thing I saw.
Just do that with your fucking eyes.
Try to remember the things you saw too.
What I think we should need to do is we should collect as much of this footage that we have
because Trump's probably going to try to remove that footage.
That's true.
Yeah.
And then we just fucking purges.
Well, what we could do is let's see if we can collect all that footage on a drive and
then we'll just create a stream and just stream it 24 hours, seven days a week.
Oh, I love it.
From now on and just stream it on YouTube where if you want, you can just go watch footage
of January 6th, whenever you want, you can go watch it.
I love it.
Yeah.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, we need to collect it first.
So I need a plan of attack,
but I think it's a great idea to just create a YouTube
channel that's like January 6th footage, here you go,
might even already exist.
Maybe I'm behind the times, might already exist.
Maybe every time like we see a fucking,
like a fucking, just have the channel just be like a series.
Like here's January 6th, here's a fucking Nazi salute.
Here are the things you should see.
Yeah.
Like we should have a channel just like,
that's the thing that happened.
You can see it!
Yeah, you can see it.
Here it is. You can see it, man!
Here it is, here it is.
Put some bleach in your veins and fucking sit down and watch.
Get your popcorn out.
Have that press conference.
That woman just wants to crawl through the wall because she's a serious doctor.
Oh my God.
And he's like, well, you know, we should do that sunlight or the bleach.
What do you think?
Shine a flashlight up your asshole.
I was talking to her a few minutes ago about injecting shit inside a fucking injecting bleach inside of you.
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