Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 822: Boogers on the Resolute Desk

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Ontario. This episode of cognitive dissonance is brought to you by our patrons you fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glory Hole Studios in Chicago and beyond, this is Cognitive Distance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way, we bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, February the 13th, a day before Valentine's
Starting point is 00:02:07 Day, less than a month of the Trump administration. Less than a month. I'm working from home today. Yeah. Recording from home because there is an influenza strain burning its way through America right now and also through my heart and my home. Man, again. Again. Yeah. You're always catching strays. You're never catching a break, Tom. That's true, my friend. That is very true. So I don't want to get Cecil sick. So here we are
Starting point is 00:02:37 recording from afar. Recording separately. That's okay. I am heartened to know that today, when we recorded this, RFK Jr. was confirmed as the Health and Human Services Secretary, that's famed anti-vax, fucking lunatic, RFK Jr., he of the whale head upon his car, the dead bear in Central Park, the brain worm. Let me ask you, Tom, new office, which is on his wall? The dead bear or the whale or both? And behind him or on his desk somewhere, there has to be a small pencil holder
Starting point is 00:03:17 that is also a brain worm, I feel. Well, so obviously, I see, so obviously on his door, it's the whale head that says, whale come in. Whale come. Amazing. And then on the other side of the door, it's like, I can't bear that you're leaving. Yes, there you go.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Oh, gosh. We are so fucked dude. What have we gotten ourself into? This is a fresh hell every week. It's brand new fresh hell every week. It's fucking crazy. Do you listen to the daily still? I, you know what Tom? I don't anymore. Oh brother, I wish, like the daily like broke back mountains me. Like I just wish I could quit it.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I can't. I just can't quit you. So I haven't, there's some programs. I used to watch on television I don't watch anymore. There's some you know, certainly some new sites I used to visit a lot more than I do far I still do I still do plenty of research for the show but but I am Spacing out some of the things that I used to consume all the time beforehand when it wasn't just a deluge of terrible information that's coming in every single day. Dude, there was an episode today where they were talking to somebody and they're like,
Starting point is 00:04:36 hey, you know what, we're gonna talk about like the bird flu. And like we've talked to you a few times about bird flu and you've always said like, ah, don't worry about it. I'll tell you when to be worried about it. And she's like, and I thought it was really concerning when you called me and said, okay, it's time to worry about it. So that's what we're doing this show. And I was just like, fuck me. Like, like, I'm not going to go into the show cause it's a whole show.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You could just fucking listen to, but it's like, we're, we're, we've got, we've got this moment in time, another potential inflection point in American virus history or the world virus history. And again, we've got Trump in charge and now we've got RFK Jr. Fucking Fauci's gone. Like all the grownups are gone and now it's like, and the whole time I'm like, just kill all the birds.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Just every single one of them. Like whatever you gotta do. We can't do this again. It feels like there's a bunch of germs on the sideline. And then as soon as we put in Trump, they're like, okay, second string, come on in. Get in, get in, get in. All right, get in here, bird flu.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Go ahead, Tommy, now's your time. Hey, is there a new COVID strain? Hey, what about influenza? Can we make sure our vaccine doesn't work this time? Let's send them in It's like crazy to me that these are the people who are in charge and they're the worst at it They were so bad at it before It's just insane the guys in charge
Starting point is 00:05:55 This is how crazy it is the people in charge of America don't believe in the value of being in charge of America in the value of being in charge of America. What is that? That's a true sentence. Amazing. That's a true sentence. Amazing. That's a true, they're just like, you know, the best way to lead would be by dismantling the thing we're in charge of. Yeah, and they are, dude, they are speed running the dismantling, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:19 They're breaking everything. There's like Mario speed runners like, damn, I didn't realize you could do it that fast Fuck, dude it there do you I feel like they're just like walking in and just like Shattering the urinals with a hammer for no, he's like break everything amazing break everything something else I know I just met you but I'll do anything to be with you. I'll leave my husband my kid. Baby, baby I'm sorry. I can't You know, I want to tap that ass, right? You know that. But it just it just it wouldn't be right. I love you. Shut up. Shut up. It's over. This story comes from the Daily Beast. This is this is the story of the week. Trump
Starting point is 00:07:02 humiliated in the most powerless image ever of a US president. And this is referring of course to when Elon Musk showed up to the fucking oval office with his kid picking his fucking nose, Elon Musk wearing a fucking hat indoors. Yeah. You cannot, look, straight up,
Starting point is 00:07:24 you cannot trust somebody who wears a fucking half-moor. That's a grown ass man. Like if you're over 25, you're so old, dude. If you're over 25 and you fucking wear a baseball cap indoors, get the fuck out of here. Elon Musk is my age, man. What are you even, what are you doing? I absolutely agree. And if you show up to dinner without your dinner jacket on
Starting point is 00:07:49 Like your wife should just escort you out I Can't even I fucking can't with this fucking shit. I thought the apocalypse would have a better sense of style I thought so too man. His style is like definitely it's definitely like I Just went to college and now I'm got definitely, it's definitely like, I just went to college and now I'm goth look. That's definitely his guy's look. I wanna talk about that image though. So now if you haven't seen it,
Starting point is 00:08:13 Donald Trump is at a desk. The resolute desk. He's at the resolute desk that the kid is wiping his boogers on. And he's sitting there and Elon Musk is standing and Elon Musk is standing and Elon Musk talks for 10 straight minutes to the crowd and Donald Trump says nothing the entire time. There's never been a more neutered version.
Starting point is 00:08:37 If this would have happened to Biden, could you imagine the amount of press that that would have got? If it would have happened to anybody, if it would have happened to Obama, if it would have happened to Obama, if it would have happened to Clinton, pick any Democratic president and talk about what it would have looked like
Starting point is 00:08:54 if they were behind that desk and someone else were out there. You're not seeing really a lot of that at all. What you're seeing is, you know, like from outlets like this, you know, these are people who are quoting, you know, what is it, O'Donnell or whatever from, from MSNBC. So it's like, of course they're going to say something
Starting point is 00:09:12 that's snarky, but most media I haven't seen be as snarky as they should be, or at least as questioning as they should be about this particular image and how it looks. It looks like Musk is running the show. And I want to lean into this. I want everybody to lean into this. I want to constantly lean into, you know, one of the senators this week, our congressperson
Starting point is 00:09:34 was up there and he called it the Trump-Musk presidency. And I think like, yes, you need to keep saying that. I would actually switch it. I would call it the Musk-Trump presidency. I would do that constantly if I was in power right now to make sure that I hammered that point home over and over and over again. What the right values is image. They value image.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And when the image is bad, it looks bad for them. That's when they're vulnerable. So make sure to put this everywhere because that's because it's the most vain thing to be, uh, I guess injured by, but that doesn't matter. Like it doesn't matter. Right. We've got to make sure that we put any inroads you can. And if you can create a rift between these two people, you can stop or slow down the destruction of the government. And it's your job to do that if you're in government or if you're in the news right now. A thousand percent. We have to do what we have to do to leverage the egos of these maniacs, right? These are ego maniacs.
Starting point is 00:10:32 We need to leverage their egos so that they are fighting against each other. Because the reality is like, Musk is leading the government right now. This is a power play. Like I'm making fun of his fucking hat, but like I'm doing it on purpose because O'Donnell is right in this article and it's worth saying that you know if I go to work and I'm gonna meet with my boss. No. If I go to work and I'm gonna meet with my boss's boss. No. If I go to work and I'm gonna go to the corporate headquarters and I'm gonna meet with the president of my company, I'm gonna dress accordingly. But if I want to power play that guy, I'll dress down. Here's Elon Musk in a fucking t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:11:11 He's at the Oval Office standing while Trump is sitting. These are people that like, none of this is an accident. None of this is not rehearsed. Who's in charge? Who's in charge if I'm in a room and I'm standing and you're sitting and I'm talking and you're dressed up and I'm dressed down? Who's in charge in that? And I'm quiet sitting the whole time. Yeah, yeah. I didn't, like if I got invited, me, Tom,
Starting point is 00:11:35 stupid fucking Tom who doesn't mean shit about fuck, if I got invited to the Oval Office, I'd dress to the nines for it. I would dress for that. I would not do that if I wanted to disrespect it. There's a point here that's being made. It's not like Musk doesn't have suits. O'Donnell makes this point. It's actually a good point.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I actually think that if Trump wants to get rid of Musk, here's my worry. I don't think he can. I don't think he can just jettison that guy. I think that's a real problem. I think he's in for a penny. He's in for a pound. I think Musk sticks around. I don't, I think that he cannot afford to alienate the richest man in the world.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I don't think he can afford to alienate a guy who owns Twitter. I don't think he can afford to alienate a guy who owns Starlink and can turn it on and off. I think he's totally his bitch. Trump does not have the option, I don't think, of being like, all right, I've had enough of you, Musk. I think people are waiting for Musk to overplay his hand and what they're not realizing is he has all the cards. That's illegal in some states, you know. What the hell you talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:46 I thought you federal agents were straight, honorable guys. Does your wife know about this? All right, speaking of the breakdown and destruction of the government piece by piece, this story comes from CBS News. Democratic FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub says Trump fired her. She says, it's not legal. Cecil, it sounds from my end of reading the story, not legal.
Starting point is 00:13:11 It sounds like just doing something because you said you did it. Yeah. This is a strange situation because the council or the, you know, the, the, she's a chair of this, of this particular group of people, but this group of people has to have three Democrats and three Republicans on it. Currently there's, they're missing one Republican that hasn't been appointed, but he can appoint that person because there's a missing seat, but instead he wants to fire her and he can't actually do that. She has to be replaced through a congressional process. There has to be like a whole process to replace her.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And she can't just be replaced with like a Republican or someone he chooses, has to be, like I say, like there's a whole congressional process that has to happen. And this is something that's gonna happen, I think, and is happening to a couple of other people. We've seen a couple of other people sort of say, you can't fire me when even when he's asked for resignations, it's like, no, you can't, that's not how this
Starting point is 00:14:08 works. Like he doesn't know how it works because he doesn't care how it works. All he wants is what he wants and he wants it done as fast as possible. This feels like the term that I've got going in my head as I'm watching all of this stuff happen is he's Jurassic parking it. He's testing the fences constantly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, he's just like walking around, testing the perimeter fences constantly to see where there's any weak links or any weak chain in the armor.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Because like, what is going to happen is he's, he knows he can't fire these people, right? He knows he's violating the rules when he fires all those inspector generals. And so he does it anyway. Because then he waits, he sits back and he waits and he watches. And then they say, alright, who's going to raise a fuss? And the thing is, if nobody raises a fuss and you did an illegal thing,
Starting point is 00:14:55 it doesn't matter anymore. You got away with it. So what's the next thing you're going to get away with? And the next thing you're going to get away with. You know, now they're talking about, you know, JD Vance is proposing a theory that, you know, if the president, if the judiciary says that the president can't do something, but the president earnestly seems to believe that it's within his executive authority, that he's free to ignore the judiciary.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Which is a theory that says the president is a monarch. That is a monarch. Sure. That removes the check and balance process entirely. Which is a theory that says the president is a monarch. That is a monarch. Sure. That removes the check and balance process entirely. Because our system is based on the courts. If you don't like something, if you think something's illegal, if you think somebody doesn't have power, who decides it?
Starting point is 00:15:35 You go to the courts. Well, if you just disregard the courts afterwards, then like the courts ultimately can't do something else. What are they going to do? Take it to court? They're already the court, man. There's nothing else. This feels like, did I ever tell you the story about when I fired my own boss?
Starting point is 00:15:53 No. Back at the first title company I worked at, which was the most insane title company, the most insane business that's ever, I think, happened ever. So I worked at this really terrible company, first title insurance company I ever worked at. They're out of business now because they set their building on fire to hide their fraud.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It was in the Chicago Tribune, it was a whole fucking thing. Laws were passed afterwards to prevent them from doing the things that they did. From doing more frauds. Yeah, yeah. So we have whole laws now in Illinois based on their actions. But it was a train wreck of a company
Starting point is 00:16:24 and I worked there and I worked, my boss was this guy named Rich and they wanted to fire Rich. They wanted to get rid of Rich. So one of the owners of the company, this guy Tony comes into my office. He says, Hey, I need you to fire Rich. And I was like, I can't fire Rich. Tony is that I'm 25 years old, by the way. I don't know shit about anything.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm like, I don't think I can fire rich Tony. He's my boss and he's like not if you fire him Let me guess you fired him and then he laughed at you my walked into his office I felt terrible one. I kind of liked rich. He felt like a giant man, baby He actually was the guy that got scurvy and pulled out one of his own teeth and it was crazy. I don't think I want to hear this story. It's a crazy story. Can you continue on? Yeah, continue on.
Starting point is 00:17:10 So, but like he was also a nice enough guy. He legitimately got scurvy. Yeah, he only... Did he take like a... Did it take him months to get to work on a boat? Is like how did he get... All I ever... I legitimately...
Starting point is 00:17:24 I think in retrospect maybe he had ARFID because the only? All I ever, I legitimately, I think in retrospect, maybe he had ARFID, because the only thing that I ever saw him eat or drink, he would go to the gas station and get those giant like 55 gallon drums of Diet Coke, and then he would only eat cheeseburgers. I've never seen him eat anything else. All right, well that's fair.
Starting point is 00:17:40 All right, Skirby follows, okay. So crazy, I have crazy stories from that. Just add some ketchup to that. Crazy. I know man You don't need actually a lot of vitamin C to not get scurvy But he did get scurvy and his teeth fell out at work by the way He pulled a molar out at work at his desk. Anyway, I feel like I feel like he worked for the mob Dude it was crazy. The stories from that place are fucking lunacy. Amazing So so I go to into Rich's office and I'm like, and Tony is just like waiting in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But like Tony doesn't want to fire Rich because Tony's a chicken shit. Okay. So he's sending me in to go fire his guy. And I go into Rich's office and I'm 25 years old and I work for Rich and I was like, Hey, so I just talked to Tony and he says that you're fired. And he's like, well, you can't fire me. And I'm like, I know, that's what I said. And so Rich and I are just looking at each other
Starting point is 00:18:33 and it was insane. It was utterly insane. And I was like, I don't know what to, and I told Rich cause he's my boss. And like, I was like, I don't really know what to do. And he's like, well, I'm not fired until Tony says I'm fired. And so when I'm like, I don't really know what to do and he's like well I'm not fired until Tony says I'm fired and so what I'm like playing telephone I go out to Tony I go he's not fired until you tell him he's fired. He won't be fired won't let me fire him
Starting point is 00:18:54 It's like how I asked the girl out for prom Dude it was fucking nuts. It was absolutely insane. So finally like Tony. Don finally like Tony I really like her so this feels like that well this feels like fight like the FEC fire firing are you fired check yes or no I don't have the authority to do it you're just sending in like a fucking junior staffer You walk in with one of those things that they used to fold up, that little open it up a bunch of times. Okay, now pick a number. You are fired. And then you flip it up and it's just another thing that says you're fired.
Starting point is 00:19:34 It all says I'm fired. Everything out of here says I'm fired. People are listening and have no idea what I'm talking about. We used to make these, we used to fold these little things. Do the kids still do them? I don't, do they? Okay, well in any case, back when I, back in a long time ago when these were invented, they were like
Starting point is 00:19:46 a weird little mouth thing that you would fold with paper and then you would open it up in different ways when people would say stuff and then you would count and then on each little slip you could unfurl it and there would be like a little fortune cookie message in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what I'm trying to explain. I'm trying to remember what they were called. Yeah, I don't know what they're called. I think they were called like fortune tellers or something like that. I think that's what they're called. My daughter makes
Starting point is 00:20:10 them. She like she makes them all the time. That's crazy that they still make them. They'll never die, bro. That's amazing. They're going forever. That's amazing. Yeah. And actually, like you said, that's how Trump uses them. But he sends a junior staffer in with a fucking paper fortune teller. He's like, But he sends a junior staffer in with a fucking paper fortune-steller. He's like, Elon Musk says you're fired. I want to circle back to something you said though, because I think there's something important in what you said. That's an accident. And it's, you know, Trump's going to test the fences and he's going to do things.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And even if they get caught up in courts and then eventually he's wrong, he's still tried to do it, right? But I think like a lot of rich people do this sort of thing all the time, right? They'll like, for instance, Trump will not pay his debts and then he'll get taken to court and then it costs that person money to take them to court. And sometimes it's not worth what they do, like amount of work or like hiring lawyers and things like that to try to get that money from him.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So they fail or they don't get as much or he's able to argue. So like for him, either he pays the full amount and he doesn't care or he wins out. And he's like, great, I I won out so it doesn't matter And I think they do this sort of thing all the time and they expect I think when you're rich There's just this sort of expectation that you're going to get your way and a lot of people don't fight you on it And and then that's cool if you win and if you don't you still tried to get your way and that's okay. Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah, I think that's exactly the mindset, man. And the problem is that mindset usually works. Just like you're describing, it often works. And the problem is, is like, our government is not a business, right? So that's the big problem. And I think that we're running into is that a lot of these people think, oh, the government needs to run like a business. No, the government is a service.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It's a service for people. It's a thing that we use. Like it's a thing we need. There's this idea that, you know, these guys, this guy, Elon Musk, went to, bought Twitter and then he gutted it so that he can make a profit. Well, the government isn't like that. We don't need to gut the government so we make a profit.
Starting point is 00:22:22 We need to have an equilibrium so that there's all the services that we need when we need those services and then that money that we put in guarantees that. It's not like that money just somehow comes all back to us. Like when they cut off USAID, do we all get two extra bucks on our fucking taxes at the end of the year. No, we don't get two extra dollars a piece on our taxes. And the same thing is going to happen when they start cutting these other things. Don't presume you're going to somehow see that money. That's cut so that he can give tax cuts to billionaires so they can take,
Starting point is 00:22:58 they can siphon trillions of dollars off the United States economy. It's never for your benefit. So all these people, these very, you know, in my opinion, people who are in the lower end of the spectrum when it comes economically, they're all cheering this crushing of the government. But these are people who use these services and need these services to exist. These are services. This isn't a business. People need to stop thinking about like a business. Do you have to go in and cut if you're going to make a profit? Sure. Maybe you have to do that, but not in the business, in the government realm. You don't need to do that. We need those services to be up. Give this four months
Starting point is 00:23:35 and see how bad the government is running after four months. See how many people aren't being helped for the things that they had wanted and the things that they had for decades, those things are going to be gone and see how bad the government is running, how inefficient the government will be running when we're four months into this experiment. Mark my words, mark my words, it's going to be running a thousand percent worse than it is right now. And to your point, your taxes are exactly the same, stupid. You're not getting anything out of it. You're not getting anything out of it.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You don't get anything out of it. They like to change your effective tax rate, they would have to change the tax code, not just cut out the funding for the Department of Education. Like if you're, if you're in the fucking 29% tax bracket or whatever, you're not in a different tax bracket because they cut spending. It doesn't change your tax bracket. You owe the same percentage of your fucking taxes. You get nothing.
Starting point is 00:24:30 We will get nothing except for screwed. That's all we will get. I will have to file that under N for not my problem. Speaking of screwed new Republic, Trump desperately tries to blame anyone but himself for inflation. Now I want to give, I want to be fair here and I actually do. It's been less than a month. The economy is a big ship.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It does not turn on a dime. It cannot turn on a dime. Nothing Trump was going to do was going to have a meaningful change on the rate of inflation that we measure in February from the economy experience in January. Right. It's literally not possible. But the reason it's still important to talk about is he fucking said he would. He came out and told everybody day one, his words, day one, we will start lowering your prices, day one, we will start fixing this problem.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Well, bitch, it's been more than day one and ain't nothing fixed. Well, and to be honest, I don't really care whether it matters whether or not this is his problem because it is his problem in general because he's in the big seat and there's never been a moment of reflection on the other side when something is happening. Let's say gas prices, for instance, which are globally controlled, right? Right. Those things go up here and then they blame Biden. They drive around and put little stickers on everything to say, I did that on the, on the pumps. So they don't care when there's clearly something that's happening that that that is out of control.
Starting point is 00:26:10 The presidency, they don't give a shit. Well, guess what? I don't either. So it's his fucking problem. He's the one in office right now. He came out and called it Biden's inflation. And you're like, well, no, you're the one in the office. So I know, dummy. And you know what? Maybe you're right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Maybe technically is right. But I don't even care. I'm just like, no, man, it's the one in the office. So I, and you know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe technically is right, but I don't even care. I'm just like, no, man, it's yours. Like it's a hundred percent yours. You own this, you're in the spot right now. It's yours. You know, there's a weird thing that happened. I don't know if you've encountered this Cecil, but like when I've talked to people about inflation,
Starting point is 00:26:39 when I've talked to people about like kind of what happened and what the root causes of it were, beyond the fact that like most people don't really have of a good grasp of basic macroeconomic theory, but like. And they just don't. And that's fine. Cause like, I go to the coffee shop and I try to talk about basic macroeconomic theory and nobody knows anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:00 The barista just says, take your coffee and leave. But like when I'm talking to these fucking people, what I hear is I hear people talk about, you know, oh, they gave away all that money in those stimulus checks. Oh, they gave away all that money in those stimulus checks. Oh, that, you know, that was really the problem. They gave away all that money in those stimulus checks. And then I'm like, hey man, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:22 Trump gave away like a lot of those stimulus checks, right? Like he signed them. He insisted, if you'll recall, those checks went out and he insisted on making sure that those checks had his fucking signature on it. Do you remember that shit? Yeah. I'm not saying that most of the stimulus checks
Starting point is 00:27:42 went out under the Trump administration. I think more went out under the Biden administration than the Trump administration, but the Trump administration began that. He signed them. He insisted his signature be on them. We were doing this thing where we're like rewriting history. We're deciding that things happened. People blame Biden for the lockdowns. The lockdowns were over before Biden ever took office.
Starting point is 00:28:09 The lockdowns happened exclusively 100% under Trump. Yeah. But America's blamed, and I don't understand this. It's they've blamed the lockdowns, the people who hate it on, on Biden. He wasn't even fucking in charge. They blame the stimulus checks on Biden that Trump administration sent out the first several batches of those with his fucking signature on them. Well, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:28:33 What the fuck is even happening? Oh, it's, it's Biden's inflation. Like what? Well, how? Well, and then there's, uh, just a misunderstanding of scale. So like on the no Rogan experience, so the podcast I did with Michael Marshall, it'll release this releases on Monday for the wide audience on Tuesday, the show that we did covering this USAID stuff will release.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And this USAID stuff you hear Joe saying, you wonder why our, uh, you know, he's talking about all this waste that's happening in USAID and he's like, you wonder, you know, why our deficit is so big. He's like, he's like this USAID stuff. USAID was a $40 billion a year budget. Our, our deficit is like $37 trillion. Marsh did the math, he's like, it would be 900 years for you to fill the deficit if it was just USAID and that was only a deficit every year. So, you know, it's just a misunderstanding of scale and a misunderstanding of how things work. And like people don't, I think that they don't wanna know,
Starting point is 00:29:40 they just wanna be mad about it. I think that's the real key. It's just, the whole thing is just fucking wild and the rewriting of history and the intentional misunderstanding of how numbers work. Yeah. Like it's funny cause like they did the same thing to Obama where they blamed the housing crash of 2008 on Obama. It's like he wasn't in office.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And like, yeah, he wasn't in office yet. Bush wrote that check. Right. Yeah. Of 2008 on Obama. It's like he wasn't in office. And like, yeah. He wasn't in office yet. Bush wrote that check. Right. Like all the bailouts were under Bush. Like that's a, that was. I mean Bush was a lame duck. I mean like he was, he was, he had already lost. Cause I remember Obama was in the, in the, in some of those talks too. But Bush was the one who did it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yeah. That happened under his watch. 2008 was fully under George W. Bush. That's how that works. January is the next year, 2009. But we, we have this weird history, this weird like fucking fuck up of history. And I do wonder Cecil, if part of it is because of our election cycle. So for example, we think of the 2020 election and we think, Oh, well, who won the 2020 election? Oh, well, Joe Biden won the 2020 election. Must've been him., well, who won the 2020 election? Oh, well, Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:30:45 won the 2020 election. Must've been him. Joe Biden was in charge in 2020. He was in charge in 2021. But he wasn't because he doesn't take office till 2021. I think the same feels true of like, oh, well, like, obviously we had, you know, if you, if you're bad at math and you're bad at history, you'd be like, oh yeah, well, obviously the Obama years were 2008. Cause that's when he was elected. You're like, well, no, he's elected in 2008, but he started office of course, in January of 2009. But I think it's part of that maybe. And part of it just better branding by the Republicans.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I don't know. I think it's also, I think it's also, you know, genuinely you're motivated to put the bad stuff on the people you don't like. And so I think that's often something that happens too. Get ready for a Las Vegas style action at Bet MGM, the king of online casinos. Enjoy casino games at your fingertips with the same Vegas strip excitement MGM is famous for.
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Starting point is 00:32:31 from the United States. I love it. So this would be an online petition seeking the Denmarkification of California. Amazing, amazing. I fucking love it. It's better than red, white, and blue land from Greenland. I can't even that, it's so cringe.
Starting point is 00:32:52 See, so people who don't, like, there is a, in Georgia's first district, there is a representative named Buddy Carlson. You fucking elected a guy named Buddy. And a neer, neer, neer, neer, neer, neer, neer. Yeah. And Buddy threw out like, Carlson you fucking elected a guy named Buddy and an air near near near near near yeah and Buddy threw out like hey what about we go get go get Denmark we're gonna call it a red white and blue land green instead of Greenland oh yeah dot Denmark yeah I gotta go get Denmark I just just as improbable it's just as
Starting point is 00:33:23 improbable it'd be amazing he thinksbable. It'd be amazing. It'd be amazing. He thinks, fuck it, he thinks this is a risk board. That's the craziest shit you've, I mean, it's so fucking insane, but I'll tell you what, here's what I thought. Here's the thought that I had when I heard this story that they're, they're making a joke petition and they're saying if we all give $22,000 a piece, we can give a trillion dollars to the United States and take California off their hands. And then they're talking about all the great shit that they could do. It's
Starting point is 00:33:48 actually really funny. It's actually really funny. No, I was thinking like, if that's the case, well, let's get Illinois on eBay. Let's figure this out. Cause I mean, I'm totally fine being an island country in the middle of this country. You know what I mean? Like I'm, we'll be like the Vatican city of the, you know, I mean like I'm will be like the Vatican City of the you know What I mean there we go, dude. Yeah, let's let's sell Illinois first of all, like there's a there's a Just sell just sell the part above I 80 that's what I say like that Yeah, there's a movement right now for some of the counties in Illinois to Succeed to Indiana and I'm like cool man
Starting point is 00:34:24 Go, you were nobody was like it's not none you anyway. It's not gonna be DuPay to secede to Indiana. And I'm like, cool man, go. Nobody was like, cotton on you anyway. It's not gonna be Cook, it's not gonna be DuPage, it's not gonna be Will, and I'm like, fine, okay, go. You know what I mean? Goodbye. I will smell you later, like I do not care. It's gonna be all the garbage counties.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It's gonna be like, it's a bunch of soybeans. That's what's gonna happen. It's gonna be the worst county, like it's not gonna be Bloomington, it's not gonna be all the garbage counties. It's gonna be like, it's a bunch of soybeans. That's what's gonna happen. It's gonna be the worst county. Like, it's not gonna be Bloomington. It's not gonna be Peoria. It's not gonna be any of the, any of the places with cities they're not gonna wanna go. It's gonna be the places that are like,
Starting point is 00:34:54 the only population is like three dudes and a deer. Like, get the fuck out of here. Come on, man. Good, let Indiana have it. And then we will let Canada buy us Yeah, and I'll be Canadian a oh man. Oh you'll betcha second you'll betcha I'm I want to be anything other than this like whatever Be anything else timeline dude. It's the dumbest
Starting point is 00:35:18 Joy a little bit scrawny and a bit unpopular and you can't tie your shoelaces even though you're 10 years old But you're still the bestest most loyal little Nazi I've ever met. Uh, story comes from Politico. Nancy Pelosi faces primary challenge from former AOC aid Cecil. I think you were talking about this last week or the week before. Yep. More of this. Yeah. Get rid of them. Get rid of them as much as you can. You know, the thing is like this old guard right now, we're seeing people who are saying, oh, you know, we can't, we can't really work. We got to learn trying to work across the aisle. You know, you get like all these different people who are saying we need unity now.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It's like, no, you don't. No, you don't. Not at all. If they I'll tell you when you need unity. Here's when you need unity. When they bring up universal health care and they say, we want everybody to have universal healthcare, I'm fine with unity then. If they say they want to raise the minimum wage in the United States to a nice living wage for people, unity then, right?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Unity when it's something that everybody wants, great. But if it's something they want, do not capitulate. Do not at all. Like be like, bring bills that the American people want, like protection for abortion. You want to do that? Great. Well, the Democrats will help you see you through. It'll be fine. But if you don't do that, fuck off.
Starting point is 00:36:36 How about you never do anything then? Because you're not going to bring that stuff. What you're going to bring is fucking red, white, and greenland or whatever. So, like, none of that,, like it's all garbage anyway. So just fucking filibuster everything you can that's not budgetary, right? Because you can't do the budgetary. So filibuster everything and then every single person who wants to go fucking vote for their, their, the people that they want to put in cabinet slots and for judges, any of the people on our side are doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Primarium. Get rid of them. Get rid of them. Get way younger people in there that can reach that can reach the younger people that are farther left that want to be that want to be part of this government that want the representation. They want this this government to move farther left. Get rid of as many of those Democrats as you can. Old guards gotta go. Old guards gotta go. Like unity feels like saying, hey, put your hand on the TNT plunger with you. Yeah, man. Like, fuck that, man. You're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:36 No, I am not going to be, I will not be complicit in my own destruction. I will not be complicit in the destruction of this country. Yeah, I'm definitely not going to be complicit in the destruction of all the people who don't have the privilege I have. 100% man. There's going to be so many people that are going to be injured by all these policies and you get all these rich Democrats that are like, yeah, no, it's fine. We'll just work with them when we can. No, no, don't do that at all.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Never work with them at all. No, everything they do should be the hardest. Look, if they're going to do it anyway, if they're going to win, they should have to struggle and sweat and cry the whole time. It should be a nail biter. Every single thing they do should be as hard as possible. We got to take a page out of like Mitch McConnell's book. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Like we got to make that we got to we got to become rules masters. We got to make this as difficult as possible. We got to cheat whenever we got to make that we got it. We got to become rules masters. We got to make this as difficult as possible We got to cheat whenever we got a cheat like everything. It's existential right now And this is a central this is the system they created they did this right so just play in the game Put your play in the games. They made yep hundred percent man cool well This is I you're the one who said like the fucking over the fence with the wiffle ball is a home run So we're gonna do over the fence That's what we're doing
Starting point is 00:38:53 Any other rule by the way for wiffle ball is bullshit if it goes over the fence It's a fucking home run. What if it hits the roof on your side and then bounces over the fence Is that a ground rule double? No, it over the fence. Is that a ground rule double? I think it's a ground rule double. It hits the fence. Or it hits the roof. No, but if you bounce the fence on, it's on your side of the fence, it bounces on the roof, and then bounces over, that's a ground rule double. I feel like that's... I would have been mad if I gun, a whittle gun. It would be fun to shoot the other two and be only one. All right, this story comes from RZTechnica.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Measles outbreak erupts in one of Texas's least vaccinated counties. RFK has entered the chat, so I know, dude. Well, at least none of those kids will end up with autism. So that's good. Dude, at least none of those kids will end up with autism. So that's good. Dude, fucking the measles. When I was reading this, mark my words, this is not the only one. There will be other outbreaks in the next four years for sure. Those outbreaks will then reverberate until after we get someone competent in his position afterwards.
Starting point is 00:40:04 So those outbreaks will continue for a long, long time. Measles is highly contagious, way more contagious than many, many other things. And the factor is like, I think one person can get like nine to 18 people sick. It's like an insane number. And it can have some really bad lasting effects. One of them is death, but other ones can be like
Starting point is 00:40:27 immunocompromised for the rest of your life or fuck you up in other ways. It's not great. It's not great to get as a young person. It really, you know, a lot of people like forget how bad measles is. There's a reason why we decided to get a vaccine for it. And now we're going to reap what we sow
Starting point is 00:40:44 because so many people were so anti-vax. We saw that anti-vax thing flip up during COVID. And now there's just this brand new fresh crop of young kids that don't have any vaccines because everybody got terrified from vaccines because they took too much information from too many stupid people. Yeah. You know, it wasn't that long ago, Cecil. It was in the year 2000 that measles was declared eradicated from the United States.
Starting point is 00:41:11 In the year 2000, there was the, the, the, the CDC declared the United States had eradicated measles. We, we are, we have been on the verge of eradicating some diseases through vaccination programs globally. Like eliminating the disease itself to where it's just not anymore. Like we've only done it once. We did it with smallpox. Smallpox was a motherfucker,
Starting point is 00:41:37 an absolute motherfucker of a disease. Now it has been eliminated. We came so close to getting rid of polio, so close, Cecil. Measles was eliminated from the United States 25 years ago. That's a generation ago, a whole fucking generation ago. And we've swung now this pendulum back in the stupid direction. Back in a direction where people without agency,
Starting point is 00:42:03 like let's be real about the people that are most likely to be affected, it's children. These are people without agency to make these choices. They're the ones that are gonna eat this shit. Like those people and immune compromised people and people for whom the vaccine doesn't work, people for whom they cannot, they have medical conditions which prevent them from getting the vaccine at all, like the Ghulain-Barr disease.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Like there are people that just can't get vaccines or they don't, vaccines don't work for them because their immune systems are shot. It sucks. They're the ones that are going to eat the shit, man. Like it's so ridiculously unfair. And like we're dismantling our public health infrastructure. Yeah. We're just taking the whole thing apart. We're taking apart the parts of our healthcare system. We're taking apart the parts of our healthcare system that are in charge of
Starting point is 00:42:53 monitoring and reporting on this stuff. Yep. So soon it won't even be possible to know when the outbreaks occur, how many people were involved. It's going to be just like fucking frontier times, bro What the fuck it's like it's like liberty. It's like the libertarian version of health policy This story comes from reason.com. Trump is flat out lying about the 60 minutes interview with Harris.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Like nobody cares about the 60 minutes interview. Except for Trump. He's suing for billions of dollars. He's suing CBS about an interview that was edited because all interviews are fucking edited when they go on fucking TV. They're edited, that's normal. And CBS was like, yeah, we're not releasing the full fucking thing because we're just not doing it.
Starting point is 00:43:52 We're journalists and we're not gonna be forced to do it. Go get a court order. They went and got a court order, they got the full tape, and Trump is trying to blow it up into something. There's literally nothing there. There's nothing there. There never was. Fucking Harris lost and he's freaking out about election fraud and it's like, bro, you won.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It didn't, nothing, there was nothing here. This is all just like a distraction. Yeah, he didn't, he's just a gigantic baby. That's what it is. He's just a gigantic baby. But even, so first off, reason.com, not a fucking, your bastion of liberal thought, not a lefty publication.
Starting point is 00:44:31 They're like, there's nothing here. What are you talking about? Essentially what happened is they had a question that they asked her, they released her answer for it as a preview. Then later when they played 60 minutes, they released another answer for the same question. It turns out that was the second part of her answer.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So there's a half answer that she answers that was in the preview, and the other half got in the full piece that was later on put as the actual interview. And even in the article, they're like, you got a chance, it's not like they were trying to hide anything, they showed it as a preview.
Starting point is 00:45:02 It's not like they didn't show the thing that they didn't edit stuff out, They actually put it out as a preview. So he is lying about this and there's so many people who buy this. They buy his side of this story. They never bother to look into it at all. Again, I listen to other show. I do that other show. I listen to Joe Rogan now on occasion. I'll listen to like episode a week. And he is a hundred percent into this. He thinks it's an absolute disgrace that she was, that they highly edited this interview is what he said. And you're like, dude, you didn't even,
Starting point is 00:45:34 you don't even know what you're talking about. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. This is what they do with interviews. And it's not edited in the sense that you're thinking where they sort of take something from over here that sounded better and put it here. No, they took the two things she said, they put one in the preview, and it's literally the same paragraph. You look on the script, because they did a transcript, you could see it's the same fucking paragraph where they got part of one answer
Starting point is 00:45:57 and part of the other, and what's above it is the question the guy asked. So both of those things are the answer to the question. They just decided to choose the other one when it ran. And even in this reason.com article, the guy's like, I don't like either answer. They're not really good answers to this person, right? So you could argue that, but you can't argue that they were somehow
Starting point is 00:46:19 being more favorable to her because they specifically chose one part over another. Yeah, this is part of part of the flood zone. Probably not. Yeah, you're not happening right now, right? And it's important to see it for that. It's important to be like, yeah, this is because like, if you get this constituency whipped up about this thing and you get that constituency whipped up about the other thing
Starting point is 00:46:42 and another one whipped up about the other one, then you can do all the important stuff while they're distracted. Well, and it does the one thing that Trump wants, which is discredit the media. It does the one thing that Trump very much wants. And it's the thing that all of his disciples are doing too, which is discredit the media as much as you can and as often as you can. Yeah. Well, and that's super important that we say that because we are at a low point in American trust with legacy media. That's a real fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. And I know that legacy media is imperfect. I totally get that, but fucking like random blogger is not better. Yeah. Random fucking YouTuber is not better. It's worse. It's objectively worse. No matter how bad you don't like legacy journalism.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I totally get that. There are problems there. But like the point of dismantling our trust in that media, if you've bought into that narrative, that is so they can get away with shit and not be held accountable. That's what that's about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And the very fact that Trump is suing legacy media over this shows you there's a mechanism in place already for you to dispute the things that they say. There's already a mechanism in place for you to go after them. So this idea that they say, oh, well, they just lie all the time. It's like, well, if they did that, then they would be in court like they are now with Trump when he's trying to sue them. And this isn't well, at least it shouldn't go anywhere. So, you know, like like this sort of thing shouldn't the only way it's going to
Starting point is 00:48:17 go anywhere. And this is the worst part about this whole thing. And this has already happened is that they may capitulate to him and give him a settlement so that they don't get kicked out of the room when it comes time for who's going to actually be allowed in that room. And that's, we've already seen that happen with other news organizations. So they may settle and then he'll use that as a way to, to, to again, continue to discredit them even though they didn't do anything wrong and they would probably win the case. Yeah, and you're not wrong about that at all.
Starting point is 00:48:47 If they settle, he'll paint that as a win. It'll look like a win. The optics will be exactly the same as a win. There's no difference. CBS can't afford to do this. They can't afford to settle. They will be like chopping their own feet out from underneath them. And I know I get on my fucking hobby horse about this all the time, but I just want you guys to consider how important it is for us to rebuild a trust in media at this specific point in our technological history. ever get harder to create realistic, fake, numerous, and prolific videos, audio clips,
Starting point is 00:49:28 pictures, et cetera, of things that never fucking happened and of people saying things that never fucking occurred. It has never been more urgent to have fact checking. It has never been more urgent to have quality journalists who understand how to do that work. That's not work that you just who understand how to do that work. That's not work that you just intuitively know how to do. You go to school to learn that for a fucking reason on how to do that. It's never been more important and we're at a place where two things are happening simultaneously,
Starting point is 00:49:57 which are both poisoning the information ecosystem from different angles. And it could really fuck us up. Police will come, possibly even Christians, which is totally the last thing we need in this house. ecosystem from different angles and it could really fuck us up. So this is bad. This is just bad. That was from the Hill. Trump announces task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias. This basically means that we're going to install white Christian nationalism as the, you know, that that's just going to be it. That's going to be installed and ensconced into power
Starting point is 00:50:30 and we're going to do everything, but call it that and fuck, we may just call it that. I don't know at this point, Cecil. I don't know. There's no such thing as anti-Christian bias. That's nonsense. There is however, a first amendment and that's what this is aiming to erode.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah, it's definitely doing that. And I think like, you know, people who, you know, maybe there's somebody who's hearing this and they think, oh, well, you know, what's the problem with making sure that, you know, there's no anti-Christian bias? That's code language for pro-LGBT rights. That's code language. When you say anti-Christian bias, they're using this to say, well, what we don't wanna see is we wanna see people who are pushing any LGBT rights,
Starting point is 00:51:12 or we don't wanna see people who are pushing women's rights, or we don't wanna see people who are pushing climate change, or whatever the thing du jour is that the Christian nationalists want to see, that's the thing that they're going to try to eradicate. So understand that it's not pro-Christian as much as it is anti those other things.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, I mean, like remember the Bible is a big book of bad ideas. So you can use it to do whatever you want. So if you can paint environmentalism as anti-Christian, and they do, right? If you can paint women'sism as anti-Christian, and they do, right? If you can paint women's rights as anti-Christian, and they do, there is no end of the things they can do, right? There's literally nothing they can't find because like the real, we talked about this
Starting point is 00:51:56 before, but like the real religion in America is the religion of America. That's it. Like there is a new denomination and that is like American, like Christian Americanism or Americana or whatever you want to call it. It is a new thing where America is worshiped first and foremost and all the rest of it is just the bulwark that makes that worship possible. So they're gonna get what they, this is just to say back door for them to get what they want. That you school vouchers, this is school vouchers, man.
Starting point is 00:52:31 This is the destruction of the public school system. I'll tell you this, like what fights 2025. I will be shocked if by 2027 by midterms, I will be shocked if we do not see school vouchers. Voucher system all across the country? And that will mean the, effectively, the collapse of funding of public education. Because that's their goal! Because like, if I'm a hedge fund manager, I get to start lots of schools. It's a lot of money to be made.
Starting point is 00:53:05 See, huge amount of money to be made in starting all these fucking schools. You start a bunch of schools in a bunch of nice neighborhoods and you pull money out of the public education system and you take this captive population of students and you say, I'll take your truth. I'll take your voucher. I'll take your money. I'll take your voucher. I'll take your money.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And you bring it in there and you create this massive system for you to shit money into. Like all the incentives are to make rich people fucking richer. It's not to give your kids an education. And when they break that system, the people that get fucked the most are the people that can't afford to meet the difference between tuition and the voucher. And those people get stuck at the underfunded public schools and that's going to happen by 2027. That's Mark. That's Mark in my words. Yeah. And how do you change that?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Right? Like once that's in place, now there's all these people who can easily lobby places and then suddenly that's an ensconced system, you know? Yeah. And remember too, that private schools do not have to hire licensed teachers. So that's something else to consider. Public schools have to get teachers that have a teaching license. If you want to teach at Joe's Catholic school, you can just be Joe's buddy.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And you can say whatever you want and you can run any curriculum you want. There's no rules. Sure can. No fucking rules. So all that shit's out the fucking window now. And if it's a religious institution, like nobody's checking to make sure those kids aren't beaten, and nobody's checking to make sure that those kids are taken care of by mandated reporters.
Starting point is 00:54:31 All those protections, fucking gone. All those protections are gone. They're 100% gone, and now what you're dealing with is a private company that hasn't had any of those protections and doesn't have to share a lot of information with you. You're putting your child at risk by doing something like that. Yeah, 1000%.
Starting point is 00:54:48 There's safety in their wellbeing, not just their education. I think they want us to die because they're about to die. Story comes out of Montana. Proposed bill would ban the administration of mRNA vaccines in Montana. RFK has re-entered the chat.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Like let me read what this fucking guy said in the bill in the House judiciary. It is a quote from the article. Gene-based vaccines or mRNA vaccines are the most destructive and lethal medical products that have ever been used in human history. I'm asking you to support this bill banning gene-based vaccines so we can halt continued harm, disability, and death of our citizens. None of that is true.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Somehow even the prepositions are false in that sentence. I don't even know how that's possible. Everything about that is a lie. This is the problem with electing people that are like the Everyman. Like, you know how we talk about this all the time? This is the problem. We are getting the dumbest people to come into their passing laws against space lasers, their passing laws against chemtrails, their passing laws against mRNA technology.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Some of this stuff could be absolutely life-changing and completely eradicate things that we hadn't even had on the vaccine list, right? Some of these things we just didn't have an opportunity to get. They could change lives all across the globe with some of this technology. Look around the world. Here's what I just want.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I just want to say this to the people who don't think that these, you know, these mRNA technology things, like they're like, oh, it's bad stuff. It's like, they're not doing it in other countries. They're not banning it in other countries. I know that they want to say it's the profit motive, but in other countries, they have limits on how much they can spend on certain things.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Cause they have the biggest, the biggest thing is negotiating with the drug companies. The biggest, the only thing that can buy the drugs in Canada is the thing that buys the drugs. And so they can be like, yeah, we're not going to pay that for that. We're going to pay a reasonable price for it. And then they have to. So the profit motive sort of is not as it's not as stark as it is here. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Can a America, the profit motive can be huge for certain types of drugs. But look around the world. Are they banning these things in other countries? Are other countries looking at these things and saying, no, we can't have this mRNA technology. The only place you're hearing about this is in Yokelville, United States. So take that and think, well, why isn't the rest of the world up in arms about this?
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's because you've been lied to by so many different disinformation groups right now. You can't even count and point to the one that you got lied to about this. I did want to just double check something because I'm curious, Cecil, these are supposed to be the most dangerous, most destructive, most lethal medical devices, medical technology ever. Guess how many people worldwide received an mRNA COVID vaccine? I'm going to go with like 4 billion.
Starting point is 00:58:12 5.58 billion people. Sure. 72% of the world's population got an mRNA. Where's all the fucking dead? If fucking almost five and a half billion people all took one of the most deadly fucking, it's fucking worse than sharks in your face. Like, it's just like, it's so scary. It's like crashing a skateboard while you're on fire
Starting point is 00:58:38 out of an airplane with electric eels biting your nuts or whatever. It's so scary, there's nothing you could do that's scarier than five and a half billion people. And we're all still chucking along. And I will point, Tom got four billion of those shots himself.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I got so many of them, man. I've literally gotten every shot approved for use in the United States. I think the thing is is that initially you gave yourself heart arrhythmia, but all the rest of the shots put it back in order Yeah, you just Mr. Burns it. You just Mr. Burns it. Yeah, you got you got to balance it all out, bro You got to balance it all out. I just kept pouring 5w30 in there until
Starting point is 00:59:16 This started at 530 this morning a piano player has been following me around and playing To make it sound like I'm in a musical. I'm not in a musical. Who else has had this problem where somebody's playing the piano and just making your whole life feel like a musical? Stop! How do you get somebody to stop? I hate this. I don't like musicals and now my life is becoming a musical because this idiot piano player won't stop playing when I'm talking. Stop. This is driving me nuts. Please help. If you see this, please send help. I hate musicals.
Starting point is 01:00:03 All right. This last story comes from New Republic. MAGA has total meltdown over Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime show. Cecil, I'm about to surprise you like you've never been surprised before. I watched that halftime show. I bet you did. You watched a lot of the halftime shows, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, I watched the halftime show. Like they had it on YouTube and we found it and we're like, I watched the halftime show. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it was, I don't really I personally like I don't like Kendrick Lamar's style like it's not my style I know he's great. I know he's won a Pulitzer Prize Don't send me your emails about how I don't appreciate him like I'm it's my fault. I just don't like it I'm sure it's amazing. It's just a style. I can't get into love the show though
Starting point is 01:00:43 Yeah, I thought the show was amazing show was great. Yeah, Like there's so much great symbolism in there, like a lot going on. It was really an interesting show. Music's not for me, but like fucking great show. I have a Kendrick Lamar station on Pandora that I listen to all the time. Do you? Yeah, I like his stuff. So I actively like his stuff. And so I listen to that and like there's a... It actually, because it's Pandora, it does its thing. So it starts picking things out. And then of course it drops itself back to like 90s rap
Starting point is 01:01:12 starts working its way in there too. So it's actually really cool. It's got a lot of what I would think of as new rap and then a lot of older stuff and it kind of, it's Pandora. So it mixes it all up and it's a lot of fun. So, but yeah, I know his work and I listen to it and I enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I thought that the sound quality on that was terrible for the live show. I didn't watch a YouTube video of it, so I don't know if it's better. It was pretty bad. It was really bad. Terrible live. It was awful live.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It was very hard to understand. It's hard to hear him. He was, his vocals were down too low. It was really bad in that sense. And so if someone were to say, technically, I didn't think that this was a good thing, that's fine. But what you have is the whitest people, you know, saying that Mayo is extra spicy. Yeah, man. Basically what's happening here. Exactly. And I, I, you know, one of the things that I read this week
Starting point is 01:02:05 that I think is really, and I think it was something even Barack Obama had said years ago, and it's like, any authentic American culture is black culture. Like the rest of it is all, if it's like, especially because black people have been here longer than most people, like certainly longer than me, like my ancestors, like we, I'm a second generation person. So most black people have been here for, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:30 another two or 300 years longer than I've been here or my parents were there, my grandparents showed up on a boat. So it's like, you know, the real authentic stuff that we have in this unit, in the United States, the stuff that's worth anything, the music, the dancing, the food, a lot of that can be attributed to black culture.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And I think we're seeing this rubber band snap back right now where people are like really up in arms about giving black people any space, right? There's, you see the pushback on DEI, you see all this pushback, this sort of white centering that's happening. And this was just a big slap in the face to them and they fucking hated it.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And you could see how much they fucking hated it. Yeah, and like, I wanna let them say how much they hated it. So I'm gonna read right from this fucking article, this fucking horrible racist shit. That's just what it fucking article, this fucking horrible racist shit. That's just what it is. It's just horrible racist shit. It's not like, look, it's not like when I started off by saying like Kendrick Lamar's music is not for me.
Starting point is 01:03:33 That's a taste thing, right? That's not what these guys are criticizing. That's not what they're saying. Here's what they said. The halftime show you just watched is clearly the regime's response to Trump's historic gains with black people. That makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Matt Gaetz wrote it. Raise your hand. It makes no sense at all. The regime. What regime? What regime? Also like, no, nothing about that made sense. Raise your hand if you survived the black nationalist Superbowl halftime show.
Starting point is 01:04:04 That was Eric Doherty. Nice. Hey NFL, the Trump won. We no longer let talentless mumbling, pagan, satanic cultists do halftime shows and pretend like people like it. That's Benny Johnson. Fucking yikes. Yup.
Starting point is 01:04:21 This is, this is nothing to do with like, hey, sometimes things just aren't my taste. That's fine. That's fine. Not everything's your fucking cup of tea. I get that. There's going to be people that don't like the things you like. The way that they're talking, they're like, hey, I don't like that a black guy was doing it. I don't like that there was a black guy up there with a strong message about America.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Like the dance, if you guys didn't see it, like the dance numbers, the dancers were all wearing red, white and blue. And they were moving in and out of these like formations as they were dancing. And the formations were incredibly like powerfully symbolic. There were parts of it that matched with the music where the American flag would, through the dancers that formed it, would separate or divide to represent a divided America. It's very clever. They do not want to see a black man, and also, by the way, all of the dancers were black
Starting point is 01:05:17 and all the performers were black. Sam Jackson was Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam and Uncle Tom. So he was playing a dual role there. There's a lot of clever shit going on. Like, and then like you had Serena Williams up there and Serena Williams was out there dancing. Like-
Starting point is 01:05:31 Do you know why she was there? I don't know why she was there, no. So this is a little dig at Drake. She used to be, I think, date Drake. And that whole song, that whole song is a diss track on Drake and she was crip walking during that song. They did the video they showed her during that song.
Starting point is 01:05:49 He had brought it. That's fucking funny. Attacking Harris X out so that she could see it. That's fucking great, man. It's like kind of amazing actually. It's really like, I mean, like, like when you think about how intricate all that stuff was, it was really intricate. And they, like the Republican white establishment
Starting point is 01:06:08 does not want to see a powerful black man making a commentary about America. Yeah. They don't wanna see that. An unapologetically black commentary. Yep, yep, yep, exactly, exactly. They fucking cannot handle that because it threatens their hegemony.
Starting point is 01:06:23 That's exactly, it's it. It just threatens their hegemony. That's exactly, it's it. It just threatens their hegemony. ["The Oh, no, we can't do anything really positive, but hey, recording this one from afar to a patron one That's gonna be coming out in a week after that. So if you're patron, you'll get a funny show next time But we're gonna be doing this this this article from the Atlantic on The anti-social media and so that's gonna be coming out on Thursday Tom's gonna read that article for patrons So if you're patron you can check that out and then we'll also have a patron show later on in the month
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