Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 829: Transgenic Mice and Rich People Lose 200 Billion

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

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We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, March the 13th at Cecil. Just this week, I finished listening to the very fine no Rogan episodes of the telepathy tapes.

And I just want to tell our listeners that if you have not listened to no Rogan yet, these, the telepathy tapes episode was, I think so far, my favorite episode. It's so good. You guys did a really good job. I missed that whole cultural moment. I missed it too. I saw it up there. I didn't know what it was about. I missed it and I can't believe I missed it. It's like a guy in the skeptic circles that just fucking passed me. I a god it's amazing it's amazing that the lady thinks that facilitated communication not only is just available which we've shown that facility communication doesn't actually work but then that that actually leads to telepathy and all this other like

spiritual realm stuff actual projection it's the most insane crazy it's crazy and that's what's mainstream now it's crazy. It's mainstream now. It's literally mainstream. It's fucking nuts. I'm listening to this and I'm like, okay, legitimately, there's nothing Joe Rogan won't believe. Yeah, right. There's nothing.

If you believe the fucking telepathy tapes, because you have to believe, okay, not only are these nonverbal people locked in,, but they, they've never been taught to write. They've never been taught to read, but they've, they've absorbed the skills of reading and writing. And then they're going to use a spelling board through somebody else. Okay. I got to buy that bullshit, which is nonsense. But then I also have to buy that like, Oh, they're telepathic and like, Oh, also they astrally project and like, Oh, also they like read like fucking cuneiform tablets or whatever. And then, Oh, also they astrally project and like, oh also they like read like fucking cuneiform tablets or whatever And then oh also they are all friends with each other and they hang out

Yeah, you know spiritually on a hill somewhere and like it just gets more insane. It's like it's Like if all you did was say how about if that was a Ouija board instead everybody would be like, that's crazy Yeah, but it said it's like what if it was a spelling board or if you just, you're not wrong. It's so, it is, it absolutely demonstrated to me that there is no limit, literally no limit to what Joe Rogan will believe. It's amazing. Every week I'm surprised, but the telepathy tapes was one of those moments where you're like, I can't believe it. And the, one of the interesting things too about that show is just going through and finding out where his belief really just becomes malleable to his guest. He doesn't really, I don't know that he even believes

any of these things that he's talking about because sometimes his guests will say something and he completely agrees with it and the next guest will come on and completely change that and he will not, like for instance, in the telepathy tapes, he talks about billions of dollars and how that's you know That's crazy that you would have a billion dollars

What would you even do with a billion dollars and all these people are nuts etc etc and the very next day at Elon Musk on And he didn't mention that at all to you as a guy who's signed a hundred and fifty million dollar contract with a single fucking Yep, like I love that idea that he's like I don't even know what all these rich people are like. You're fucking like nine figures rich or 12 figures rich. Dude, you're so rich. You're so fucking rich.

That is insane. Like, do you see you? Can you? It was great. Anyway, I just wanted to mention that because it's such a good episode. It really turned out good. I might actually too, after this Elon Musk episode drops, I may actually drop it on the cog disc feed because the Elon Musk episode is one

of those episodes that like, you just can't believe all the stuff he's saying. It's just awful. So yeah, really, really terrible. Not fun to do, but you know, it is what it is. Well, I mean, if you're in the market for a Tesla, you can get a Tesla. It's got the computers inside. Get the Tesla from the president who's selling them literally in the fucking driveway. And what was so funny was, again, the right tries to do this where they'll be like, oh yeah, you're making fun of Elon Musk and Trump. Well, Joe Biden drove a Jeep electric up to the lawn up to the lawn and I'm like, yeah But he didn't tell you how much it was or where you could buy it Yeah, like the difference is he did it as a thing to say

Evie's should be something that we should be investing in and he was having an EV summit at the time and he drove up and got Out of it and said hey, we should have EVs and then he went inside and had a summit He didn't love a fucking handwritten note by somebody else to tell you the pricing structure of Tesla's. Right. He also did not have the CEO of Jeep in his office every day. Yeah. So he could blow him. Big difference. There is a huge difference. The fight like, like the fucking whole doge bullshit, you know, where like fucking Elon Musk comes into the fucking Oval Office and like Trump gets down under the resolute desk and blows them while he dismantles our government.

Like that's a huge difference. Like the fucking CEO of Jeep isn't like ripping apart the fucking Department of Education right now. Yeah. You know, so like, if we're going to do comparables, you've got a lot of, you've got a lot of ground to cover. You've got, you've got to at least be in the same fucking ballpark. Right.

I want to play a clip about Elon Musk right now. This was from Congress this week. This was from the Senate House and Ways and Means Committee. And I want to play it so we can, we can all listen to it together. This is a clip of this would be Congress I think Congressperson Larson who is or it's Congressperson Larson who is he's a Democratic representative and he is not having the Elon Musk stuff. Where's the independence of the committee? Where's the legislature?

We're an equal branch of government and you start off with a blather and Yet when they look at the empty seats here, where's he law must? I'm sure he's a genius and is a very credible person because of the wealth he's accumulated and is a very credible person because of the wealth he's accumulated. But that does not put him above the law or the responsibility to come before this committee in this Congress. If he's so great, if these plans and all the fraud and abuse that he found are so eminent, why isn't he here explaining it? You know why. Cause he's out to privatize social security. He's been on television the last couple of days talking exactly about social security, Medicare and Medicaid and what he intends to do. Privatize it. The American people, some of them may

have been born at night, but not last night. Well, I mean, to be fair, some were probably born last night. It was like a, it was like a day old baby. Like I was born last night. Yeah. The, uh, he's so mad. He's clipping his own microphone. Yeah., he's so mad. He's clipping his own microphone. Yeah.

Like he's so mad. He's like screaming as like, like you need more of that. You need more of that stuff. Need more of that stuff. Need more people being very upset with the government. You need more people not capitulating. We saw that this week when they weren't, uh, I think the house vote to keep the government on, no Democrats. They're they're, they're saying that they needed to keep the government on no Democrats.

They're, they're, they're saying that they needed to go through the Senate now. And you said they need 60 votes. So good luck. Good luck. It's not going to go with what went through the house. I bet. Yeah. I, you know, I don't want to be one of these guys who pretends he has a solution for the problem at hand.

I do not have a solution for the problem at hand. I don't even, I'm not even fucking solution adjacent to the problem at hand. I don't even, I'm not even fucking solution adjacent to the problem at hand. And that's because the problem at hand is so existentially grand that we just like, there's nothing to like harken back to here. We were talking about this before the show. The thing is like, we've got to scream and yell

and slap the desk and get in the way and not help and never capitulate because if we don't, I am really worried that we will actually lose our government. We will lose our democracy. And like the thing that I fear is that maybe people don't understand that. Like if we lose that, it's not like you just wait four years and we have another election. No, you don't. If you don't have a democracy anymore, that's not how that would work anymore. Yeah. Like it is possible. It has happened in other parts of the world. It is possible

for the government to collapse. That is not an impossible thing. There's nothing magical here. There's no like, there's no magical shield of fucking American protection that prevents us from descending into despotic tyranny. And it's not like the despotic tyranny, if we descend into it has a fucking ticking time clock on it. That's, that's not the nature of despotism. And I really am concerned that if like we lose our democracy that people a large number of people will be like we'll just vote him out next time. It's like you won't vote!

Yeah, there won't be any of that. He fucking alluded to it also. Yeah. Like stop. Like stop. Everybody, whatever the solution is, I don't know, but the solution is never help. Yeah. Like never, like never be a party to your own abuse. Yeah. Never ever help and be a party to your own abuse. F*****g slap desks and screaming to microphones and like call people up in front of committees. And when they don't show up, call that s**t out and get the news out there and like vote no on everything. If they want to, if they f*****g Republicans want to ram a bill down your throat called everybody gets a kitten tomorrow. Absolutely not. No kittens for anybody. Become anti-kitten.

Whatever it takes to be like, no, we're getting in the way of it. We're getting in the way of everything. Yeah, I don't, I disagree with that. I think if they were to say a $15 minimum wage tomorrow, I would do it. I would say yes, capitulate, because it's a good policy. Yeah, I guess, I guess guess yeah. But they're saying they're saying universal health care. Sure. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like but like if they're saying we want to run the government forever. No. Yeah. How about no. But I guess like I guess yeah. Look 100 percent right. If they think we're talking about before dinner, AOC bipartisan bill to limit credit card fees,

the interest to 10%. Should that be something that they vote for? Absolutely. Yeah. But like I will say, and maybe this is me just being cynical, I think that there is a zero or less percent chance. I'm not saying that anything. Yeah.

No, I know. I'm not saying anything. Yeah. No, I know. I just said, like, I'm being hyperbolic because I do not believe. And I mean this literally, I was being hyperbolic because I do not believe that they will ever even attempt to pass anything that is not evil, not self-centered and willing to serve only a very small part of their base. Right. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with you. So I am a little ridiculous, but I do think, I do think like there should always continue to be these bills that people are bringing up that are these bipartisan bills to show, Hey, there's a bipartisan bill and who doesn't want it? Who are the people who don't want it? Because I want those people in my own party to be

pointed out to all those people in my party are like, no, man, I think we should have a lot more interest rates on credit cards. Show me who they are. Raise your hand, asshole. Which ones are they? The same people who voted to censure green, which ones are they? Who are you? I want to know who you are.

So I could point it out. You know what else pisses me off is the fucking accelerationist people. I don't know if you've seen this, but like a lot of people, especially around the time that we're voting, we're like, no, I'm not going to vote. Let's just, let's just burn it all down. There was that idea of like, burn it all down. We got messages from people who live in like Australia or whatever. And they're like, yeah, man, I, I'm sorry.

I'm just a leftist. And I just think, you know what? We just, America just needs to get it all burned down. And I'm like, that's real fucking easy to say. As somebody who's really far away from every bad thing that's gonna happen here. Now, don't get me wrong, you know, when the shit finally hits the toilet, you might get splashed in the face,

but we're all sitting around right in the bowl. We're in the middle of it. So all those people who are accelerationists outside of the country, fuck you. Fuck you forever. That's some fucking bullshit. You're looking in at our country to be like, no, I want it to all fall apart.

Eat shit. Go fuck yourself. Those people are the worst. And then like the people inside our country, often those people are really privileged, right? So their shit won't hurt them. So if they're like accelerationists here, they're like, well, I don't care what happens.

Let everything bad happen. Who gives a shit? I don't give a shit. Maybe that'll fix the system. Like you say, once everything breaks, there's nothing that says that the moment you go to flip that switch back on, anything comes back up. It could be broken literally forever. And it could be broken in ways that you can never fix again.

So this accelerationist idea, I hate because, because you didn't realize how bad it could possibly be. It's, we're in a situation now where Donald Trump, he has flipped tariffs on and off again, like an old computer you're trying to get back. He has no idea what's working, what's not. We've alienated our longstanding ally in Canada. They, most people up there are like, fuck America forever now. So now they're, they're, they're getting ready to shut off all electricity. They're, they're tariffing anything they can. They're, they're, they're counter-tariffing and then they're counter counter-tariffing. They're straight up just banning some of the sale of some American goods. Just like. I mean, I know the whiskey is getting taken right off the shelves.

They're literally just taking it off the shelf. So you know, all these places in our country that are selling things to Canada, there's going to be a possibility that they won't have that opportunity ever again because one guy made a decision to put tariffs on the country. And like, what the fuck do we want? Here's the thing about Canada that is like making me crazy about this tariff shit. I have yet to hear anything even approaching an intelligible reason to do any of this. It's Canada.

Yeah. We've had like, we have had nothing but like positive relationships with Canada for fucking ever. There's no fentanyl coming in from Canada. That isn't, that's like nothing. Like I, Trump has said like, Oh, we ought to, you know, illegal immigrants and fentanyl. Like that's nothing. That's not none of that is anything.

How do you solve, if you're Canada, how do you solve a problem that doesn't fucking exist to avoid these tariffs? Yeah. What, what are we doing? Like, why are we pissing off? Was anybody mad at Canada fucking January 19th? No, he is. What is happening?

I think I think he genuinely thinks that if he if he cripples Canada economically that they'll be forced to become part of the United States. I think he really thinks that I don't really think he thinks that is so maybe he does. I believe that I believe that he probably does think that, but that's also my God. Like somebody just needs to solve this problem because that is fucking crazy. Canada is not want to become part of the United States. If you're Canadian, you're gonna be like, wait a minute. I had universal healthcare. I know a better deal. I like, I live in a better better country just an objectively better country than America Yeah, he pushed him left. Yeah, he pushed him left. He did

Yeah, the Liberal Party was really struggling and like Canada was actually in a period of like some of its most rampant polarization in Canadian political history and this tear of shit Absolutely was like, oh, yeah reaction is 100%. Everybody's like, no man, we're not on Trump train. Fuck you. And even the people who are on like a quasi Trump train up there are like, fuck you. Yeah, well they call them Maple Maga. They call them Maple Maga,

and that is like a fucking slur now. That's kind of great. I mean, awesome. I kind of like some of the same thing. Like, what do we have to do to get the fucking MAGA bullshit finally? Nobody likes this. Everybody there's a tiny handful of people in America who are like, yeah, I approve this

shit. What is fucking Trump's approval rating? I think that there's a lot of people who are on the finding out phase. We're in the finding out phase of a lot of things. And we're going to talk about some of the things that he's planning on doing in this show. And you're going to see that even when, you know, even the arguments that you heard very recently, they don't hold up anymore. So we're in a position now, I think, of flux and hopefully more of these people can, I

saw Tim Walls is planning to travel around the country at, in red states to do town halls, which you suggested last week, like get out there to do town halls, which what you suggested last week, we like get out there and do town halls. I saw AOC volunteered to go anywhere in the country to go do a town hall. And you're like, yeah, go have her do it. Awesome. That's the thing is like all these people, like you can show them that there's leadership out there and there and look at Bernie Bernie's still drawing people. Liz Warren got out there. I think some of these Democrats are doing the right thing by pointing a flashlight at this and saying this is these are horrible policies put forth by people who don't really know what they're doing. And they're showing it

every single day how bad they are at this. It's so incompetent. I mean, it's just so genuinely incompetent. It's crazy how incompetent. Yeah. I mean, this week, Zelensky said, yeah, sure, I'll do I'll do what you suggest as long as Putin comes to a ceasefire, which is what he had suggested here. And it wouldn't do it. Putin wouldn't do it. No, of course not. He was saying it was never going to do it.

Right. It was never a good faith negotiation. He's never going to do it. And what I saw the moment Zelensky said, I'm willing to come to the table and talk everybody was like Trump did it He did it. He's the one who did it. I'm like he didn't do anything. No, like Zelensky said I will do it. That's what he was saying here while he was here. I will do it if Putin does it It's literally why he flew here. Yeah, like like Zelensky flew here with the intent of signing a deal

That's why he flew here. He was the intent of signing a deal. That's why he flew here. He was intending to sign a deal. He just wanted fucking security guarantees because like, why would you give away all of your fucking mineral rights with no security guarantees? And like, you know, like, oh, all right. Why are you guys going to do your end? And Russia's like, no, we were never going to do it.

We never had any intention of anything other than a full scale overtaking of Ukraine. And we know that because that's what they're trying to do with their army. Like, you know, there's that like, there's that old adage, like, ignore what people say and listen to what they do. You can ignore what Putin says and listen to what his army is doing. Sure, just watch it. It's invading you train! Just watch it. Yeah. Well, well maybe we'll just refuse to go on stage.

You don't f***ing talk to me like that, you little piece of s***! Get the f*** up, Get the f**k up! Get the f**k up! Now, do we have a problem? No sir, no Mr. Mouse. Oh that's good, because I thought we had a problem for a minute there. Alright now, get out there and make me some goddamn money! Alright this story is from Rolling Stone. Trump decried millions spent making mice transgender. It was cancer and asthma research.

They did a, uh, control F for words that they thought were. Words that would be maybe something that would be trans in some way. So there would be trans multiple trans words and transgenic came up Transgenic has let me think no relation whatsoever To transgender. Yeah, this is just pure Scientific research. That's all this is. Yeah, this is pure scientific research. It is being it was reported on the right I saw this report all over it was reported on the right. I saw this report all over. It was reported on the right.

Oh, we're spending millions of dollars to make mice transgender. And it's like, when I first saw that, I thought, I bet that's not true. I bet no part of that is true. And all it took was like three seconds, three seconds of looking at it and being like, oh, but the rights still reported it that way. I found, I found, uh, there was this, there was one study that was being funded for like $477,000 to find out if, uh, taking certain drugs did some, did some damage to you. So some of the like drugs that, that trans people take that, that are like, you know, gender affirming care through pharmaceuticals, they were testing them to see if there would be some interactions with the drugs or some other problems that could they that could

that could arise. So they were testing these drugs out in depth, like new ones and different ones and testing them with different medications so that they could be more safe. And you're like, yeah, but it was it wasn't the third 232 million. It wasn't 8 million. It was, it was $477,000 in comparison to the American government. That's nothing. And if it can, if it can help stop people from taking harmful drugs and harmful drug cocktails in some way, we're against it because they want to be as anti-DEI as possible, anti-woke

as possible, anti-trans as possible. And they are doing everything they can throughout their entire administration to make sure that that's what that's the sort of unified front that they present. Well, the unified front that they're presenting here is do a control F for a whole bunch of stuff. Like, I don't know how true it was. I don't, I didn't look into it. So I gotta say, I don't know. But as a funny headline could have been an onion headline. I'm not sure, but the Enola gay got taken down because gay was in the room. I don't know how true it is. Look it up on your own. It might be an onion article. Either way, it's funny. So even if

it's an onion article, it's still funny, but it got taken down because of the DI purge that they're doing at the government. I feel though also like we're living in a world where onion articles are more just like prescient. You can't, you can't make fun of anything. No, it's, it's like, yeah, all right. That's if it hasn't happened, it's probably going to like it's, it's, it's like, all right, that's not satire. It's just prescient't happened, it's probably going to like it's it's it's like, all right, that's not satire. It's just prescient. Yeah, that's it. See, the truth is big money is running politics in America. Billionaires and corporations have given me millions of dollars to say what they want me to say. This story is from the independent five of the world's richest

people attended Trump's inauguration. They've lost $209 billion since that day. One of my favorite sayings recently is, I love this for them. That's my favorite saying. And I love this for them. I love this for them. I'm just so happy that they, that they went in balls deep on Trump at the beginning in the inauguration and then they just watch. You could just like have a meter on your wall. That's just going, just dropping down.

You know, like the thing that they should realize because any sensible person does is that aligning yourself with Trump is a short term thing. Yeah, there are no long term alliances with Trump. There are, there are none. He, I mean, he doesn't even have long term wives for God's sake, much less friends, much less businesses. So like, so they got on the side because they thought that's where the train was going to take them. Right. So they got on the Trump train because they thought it was going to make them some money and now they're stuck. And eventually it will fall

apart and they will get the fucking the rug pulled out from underneath them. They lost money because of stock market is in fucking absolute chaos right now. And people are looking at these companies and being like, yeah, I don't want to engage that company. Yeah. I don't want to buy like if I want to buy an electric car, there's a 0% chance I'd buy a Tesla.

I wouldn't buy a used Tesla. Yeah. I said it, I said it a couple of weeks ago or like all the different places that I'm like, I'm not buying from these places anymore. And someone had asked what happened with McDonald's. McDonald's let Trump in to do a photo op. Now granted, McDonald's are owned singularly, right, by like a group of like one person. The franchise. Most of them. They get to decide if they come in and do these things, but I don't give a shit like it wasn't like McDonald's came out afterwards

I didn't see a statement after them said we don't support any candidate, right? I didn't see anything like that. So I presume you do so from now on no more of that I'm never going back. I'll never eat another hamburger at your fucking establishment ever again And that's okay because they weren't that good. They weren't very good. They weren't't very good anyway. It's not like it's a good thing. It was fast and sometimes once in a while I would be like, oh, you know what I really like? I want to get like a cinnamon toast bun, which is what essentially all their buns taste like because they're full of sugar. There's so much goddamn sugar in their buns. So like once in a while I'd be like, oh man, you know, it sounds good as one of those. Now I'm like, no, I'm like, I'm good. I'll

never have to go there again. And that goes for across the board for all these other places that target got screwed because of this thing that they tried to pull with DIA. They're eating shit. They're eating a ton of it. There's a bunch of people. And I actually went on websites after it was over. I'm like, I'm looking and there's places I was telling you over dinner, there's places

nearby me that like we used to order from all the time. And then election season popped up and we used to get this place that we used to get rubens from we used to order a ruben You and I would order a ruben. It was like solid sandwich and it was right up the street So it was nice because it's right up the street and you just order it and it's like fast and it's not fucking Sog bread right because whenever you order a a thing delivered to your house Yep, it's almost always soggy and not very good. And especially if you get a Rubik's got that sauerkraut on there. Yeah. And just like immediately sogs it out. Well, this wouldn't be delivered like that. It would be delivered. You'd be like, Oh, it's still kind of crunchy. It was amazing.

Right. It was great. After that, I was like, Nope, I'm never ordering from them again. Cause that went down there during election time and every single sign that was there was Republican. And I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Cool. Fuck. Just lost my business. Yeah. And they're part of a group of restaurants around here and I'm not going to any more of those. I'm checking out, I'm making a list and checking it twice. Yeah, man. All the time. I'm making a list, checking it twice and all these companies that are all like part of this. It's like, yeah, man, fuck you all. Enjoy losing all the money. I've never paying for anything. You know, more your services, no more your goods as much as I kind of yeah

Oh, and I think I think a big part of that that you're talking about is that word never yeah Like it has to be like yeah, you don't get to take these backsies this shit Yeah, it's just like what we did with Canada right because now they're like never yeah most people up there like never yeah And you're seeing it in tourism you're seeing it in all these other places and they're like, never, I'm not coming there again. What a fucking dumb bridge to burn. It's such stupid. We got nothing out of it. We got nothing out of it. We get nothing out of it, except for you are inflating our leader's ego about how tough he is. That's all you got out of it. What you got out of it was a narrative about a guy you don't care about. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Hello? Gary? Gary, is that you? Gary, who are you, brother? What are you doing here? I'm in the shower.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the 75th year of the Hunger Games. Story also from the independent Trump freezes a billion dollars in food aid given to local schools and food banks to help low income families. Trump administration reportedly said it had determined this funding no longer effectuates agency priorities and that termination of the award is appropriate. What I saw because I covered all this USAID stuff on the No Rogan Experience, Bunch, kind of covered it quite a bit.

And the comments that I saw online, because when we post in different places, we will get comments from Rogan stands, right? From people who are like, you know, I like Joe Rogan and you guys suck. That show has weathered already in its infancy has weathered a ton of negative reviews because of this because people they love Joe Rogan so much they don't want to they get upset that someone is fact checking.

But he covered a lot of this USAID stuff. So USAID stuff we did. So we covered a lot of that stuff too. And often I would we would argue and be like, that's soft power, it's stuff you're sending out that money and you might be sending out for Iraqi Christmas Street or Sesame Street, but you're sending it out there so you're not creating

a bunch of people who hate America. You're doing the stuff to try to make sure that there's not as much animosity to America. You're funding real needs of real people around the world where, you know, there's these grants that go out that work for like HIV and like help people get food all across the world and different places where they're food insecure and give medical care where they need it, et cetera, et cetera. And all that money goes out to do a lot of that good work.

Now, there's other stuff that it goes out to too. And all that stuff can be reviewed via line item, however you want to deepen the weeds you want to get. But a lot of the stuff that they were calling out was false. It was all just false. And when we pointed out the common message that we received from them, most of the people who disliked us and wanted to sort of tell us how stupid we were,

was, well, I don't give a shit about those other countries. I want it here at home. I don't give a shit that we're given money to food insecure people in the Amazon rainforest so they don't chop down more of the rainforest. I want, I want to do is I want to fuck those people. I want that, I want that money here. We got to take care of people here at home. We got to take care of the people around here. care of people here at home. We got to take care of the people around here. What's this? What's this? You're cutting a billion dollars of funding to hungry people in the United States. So guess what? It wasn't, first off, it wasn't from the same pocket you were pulling that money out of. And now both pockets are empty. Well, the thing is that like, especially hilariously given the title, we have no appetite in America

for helping Americans. So it's not like this money and your point is exactly right. It's not like the money we didn't is we weren't able to spend this money helping feed Americans because we were spending money helping to feed Iraqis. For example, right? That's that was never the calculus. We always could have done both. Yeah, right? It's just that we never wanted to properly do either. So we half-assed both pieces of it. If we wanted to just feed everybody in America, we would just make that a priority and fund it and feed everybody in America.

America, we would just make that a priority and fund it and feed everybody in America. This proves that like the cruelty is the point. The indifference is the point. The depravity is the point. The desire to create a class of people whose job it is to suffer is the point. That is the last piece especially that last piece especially Create a group of people that are intended to suffer and you are to gleefully watch them suffer That is exactly the yeah, this is this is the new American caste system that we are Allowing ourselves to create in real time right now We are creating a caste system of financial untouchables and we are doing

that on purpose in order to otherize them in order to politicize and create a division that can mobilize money. That's what this is all about. That's what this has always been about. Like, it's just that like up until recently we had good, smart, strong people getting in the way of that evil bullshit. This is like, it's not like we were like, Oh God, you know, we really, we can't feed that homeless veteran over there because we, you know, we spent all our money fighting

polio. That was never true. Yeah. Because like now we're done doing that and we're still pulling money out of that guy's pocket. And they said the same thing when it came to FEMA funds because they were using FEMA part of FEMA funds, a different bucket of FEMA funds to help people who they bust up to New York, the 170,000 people they lost to the human beings that were hungry.

They had the human beings that were bused up there and flip flops during the winter. Those people that they housed and fed because that's what you do with people. Those people, everybody was screaming that they were using FEMA funds and they weren't giving it to the people in North Carolina and they weren't giving it to the people in Hawaii and they weren't giving it to the people in California because they were using it on homeless, undocumented people. And that's just not true. It's just a lie, but it's a lie in order for them to push their agenda. So they'll keep telling the same lie over and over and over again, because it reinforces the thing they want to believe. Whether or not it's true or not, it doesn't matter to them. As long as I can reinforce and point out

that your side is bad, even though there's plenty of money in both buckets to go around, those people didn't get shortchanged down in those places where those disasters actually hit. And we were able to take care of those people without spending a ton of money on them to try to make sure that the places where they already had facilities that we bust them away from, we had to take care of them in a new place. And then you essentially just get beat over the head with their weapon because they're the ones who created the the undocumented people as a weapon then they ship them up and then they blame you for spending the money to help them so

it's like you're damned if you do damned if you don't yeah and that was the intent right the intent the whole time the intent was to create a crisis yeah the intent the whole time yeah yeah but you're a dick who thinks he's better than a dick because you can back up your dickish behavior with psycho babble and pseudoscience. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This story is from Reuters exclusive. U.S. CDC plans study into vaccines and autism sources say. Well, this is just a fucking way to lend credibility to a debunked bullshit idea that has been

fucking studied. Cecil ad nauseam. So many times, so many people have tried to make this link. It's never ever, ever been linked. These things are not connected in any way anyway. And people constantly try to make this link. And now the CDC is doing it because the guy, the brain worm in charge is, is telling everybody, this is how we need to handle this. Well now you're stuck with a guy who's anti-science in one of the most important positions, science positions in the United States.

And you have an anti-science guy in it, just like you have an anti-intellectual in what could be probably one of the most difficult positions in the United States as president. Yeah. Yeah. And what does this say? If I may, if I'm an anti-vax nut job, I'm going to be like, ah, you know, I don't know, man, the CDC is looking into this. Ah, you know, there's gotta be something there, right? The CDC is looking into that. Finally, we got the CDC looking into that link. I bet there's like, look, if there was no link, why would

the CDC be looking at it? That's what you're going to hear. That's what you're going to hear. This, that's the, the intent is never going to be like suddenly the CDC inevitably determines. And the thing too is it'll take years because good studies take a long time. So the point of this is to give the anti-vaxxers ammunition, rhetorical, not scientific ammunition. Right. Right. Excuse me. You're excused? What does a cab mean? All cops are bastards.

That's, we're just building the stupidest world, man. You know, we're just building the dumbest world. Do you remember when we first started and we were like, this show's not gonna be needed in a couple years? Yeah, man. We're not gonna be religious. We're not gonna be bigots. Yeah. We're not. We're, we're an enlightened species and

we're going to grow so much farther. Yeah. Remember when we started and we were like, come on, this show can't last for more than two years. Who are we kidding? Man, I've been wrong about some shit. I have been wrong about some shit. LGBTQ nation cops burst into women's restroom to remove butch lesbian accusing her of being a man. Now one of the most important things to point out from this article is that in the state where this happened, there are no laws, no laws that prevent somebody of any gender from using any restroom. So what the cops were even doing there.

Yeah, cops don't need to know the law. No, they don't. They don't. But like the thing is they're always bad. They're always bad at it. And they're always right because they have a gun. Well, that's also true. Yeah.

So their gun means that the law is do what they fucking say. Definitely tells you what to do. Yeah. But like that's an important point that you're making because I think what this tells us is that the jackboots of the state will enforce the new social bigotry norms, whether they are encoded into law or not. Yeah. Right.

So we don't have to wait now because they've been empowered. Right. And we've, we've given them so much immunity and we've empowered them so much and we have given them so much social cover that this sort of thing doesn't need a law. It doesn't need a law in order for it to happen. It doesn't, you can be not violating the law at all. And the cops can still bust into the fucking ladies room and Shine their fucking flashlights on your feet. Yeah. Well, you know, did you see what happened this week with BLM and Plaza in DC? No, got torn up So that they had Black Lives Matter on the street

Remember they had put it I don't know if it was in cobblestone or whatever it was They had put Black Lives Matter on the street in Washington DC Well, they had passed a bill that said that something that they were gonna cobblestone or whatever it was, they had put Black Lives Matter on the street in Washington, D.C. Well, they had passed a bill that said that's something that they were going to come after it or whatever. And so the D.C. person before it ever even got put in place just capitulated and just tore it up. And that's the problem is, is that there's almost always compliance before there is actually a pressure, right? We're seeing that happen with a lot of these people who you thought might have pushed back in the past. They're not at all now. thought might have pushed back in the past.

They're not at all now. They're not pushing back in any way. And then you get an opportunity to see how enforcement of this sort of thing is going to happen. And it's just like you suggest, which is they're going to enforce it, whether they have the legal authority to do it or not. And this is a perfect example of just somebody just trying to use the washroom, man. This is what they've made our entire culture about. This is what they make. Like, make no mistake, they used this as a wave to sort of surf in and then destroy all the rest of the stuff we've

already talked about. They've used this under the cover to be like, you know, like they make it seem like, and this is a narrative they keep saying is where they keep using the groomer narrative, right? They keep saying that over and over. And then they keep saying that these people that want to use the washroom, that they're invading the other genders washroom, essentially, that they're just invading the other washroom. And they're there because they want to like inflict some sort of damage on people. They're doing it because, you know, they're perverted in some way, not that they just need to use the washroom and that's where they identify. That's the, that's the real answer. There's no real like, I mean, it's

not like there's any kind of hidden answer there. That's the real answer. They just, they have a full bladder who gives a shit. But they are trying to make it seem like they're dangerous individuals. And you know, that's something I hear quite a bit on the other show that that Joe Rogan show I listened to, man, that happened, that narrative pops out all the time about how horrible they are talking about trans issues because Joe clearly hates trans people. And Joe will talk about how they're, you know, they're all perverts. That's what he they're all perverts. And they're all trying to like, just rape women. That's essentially what his his argument is. I don't think he thinks trans men are real. I don't think he even

knows about trans men, but I think he thinks all trans women are rapists and they're in the bathroom to rape women. That's what they're there for. So, and that's the narrative and that's, and that's, and understand like Joe is like kind of not full hardcore. Like Joe is like kind of not full hardcore. Like Joe was kind of just like, he's like your intro class. He's like Red Pill 101. Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's way harder people out there than Joe Rogan.

Yeah. And that's, that's really important stuff because Joe Rogan is the sort of, he's the opening wedge. Yeah. Right. He's, he's the opening wedge. When stuff like this happens, one of the most important things to consider is that when the law stops being the way that we decide on our sort of social structure and what's enforceable and what's not, when the law is not that tool that we use, then like all

the rules get made up by whoever walks around with a stick. This story comes to New York times. Kennedy links measles outbreak to poor diet and health, citing fringe theories. Last week, I want to be, I want to, I want to take something back. Last week I was like, Hey, in the wake of the outbreak, it appears like Kennedy is encouraging vaccination. Well, in that story, in that story we saw that. Yeah, right.

But it's not true. It's not true. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not the case in the, so in the spirit of saying only true things, the health and human services secretary, the health secretary suggests that the measles vaccine was that doctors were getting miraculous results or near miraculous results with like fucking cod liver oil and fucking back rubs or some bullshit like nonsense. And that like getting measles might not be that bad because then you don't get certain kinds of heart disease and cancer. Not true at all. Like literally nothing he

says is even remotely truth adjacent. How is he? I mean like you're in charge and you don't know what you're doing. Yeah. Well, I know that happens a lot in the United States. I mean, I'm employed. I know that happens a lot, but genuinely like you're in charge and you don't know what you're doing at all. Right.

And this is a really important fucking job. Yeah. And you're seeing that the numbers are still climbing. It's not like it's not like that they had got rid of it. It's not like the measles stuff's been taken care of down in Texas. Sorry. Yeah, I'll tell of it. It's not like the measles stuff's been taken care of down in Texas. Sorry. You know, I'll tell you this, like Haley and I were talking and like, we're going to take, we're going to take ourselves and our kids and we're all going to go get MMR boosters

because I have, there's no reason to think that the measles outbreak in Texas, A will not continue, B won't spread or C won't just pop up somewhere else. Like I know that it originated from a Mennonite community and that community was like very poorly vaccinated, but this country's full of poorly vaccinated communities. Absolutely. I would argue that there's some pretty large communities now that are very popular and full like that are communities that we would easily interact with. I realize the Mennonite community might not, but there's plenty of communities out there now that are not vaccinating that you could easily, I mean, shit, it could be half your school. Yeah, man. And the thing is in order for the herd immunity effect to really work for measles because of how infectious it is, that herd immunity rate, that vaccination rate needs to be in the mid to upper 90s.

Yeah, it's got to be high Yeah, it's gotta be high. And it's not that high. Nope. It's below that number now. So we don't have the herd immunity effect. And I was just like, we were talking, Haley and I were talking, I'm like, well, why don't you just go get MMRs? Like, there's no harm in doing it.

I'm not going to fucking turn into a 47 year old autistic by getting it. Like, I'll just be a little safer because it wouldn't surprise me at all. If a measles outbreak popped up in one of my kids schools, sure. Like I would be zero percent shocked if that if I got that letter at home, I'd be like, yeah, it's fucking of course it did. Why wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Looking for the ultimate online casino experience? Step into the bet MGM casino app where every deal spin and goal brings Las Vegas excitement into the BetMGM Casino app, where every deal, spin and goal brings Las Vegas excitement into the palm of your hand. Take your seat at Premium Blackjack Pro, where strategy meets top-tier gameplay. Hit the ice with Gretzky Goal Lucky Tap, inspired by the great one himself, or play the dazzling

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this nation is for us. All right so I'm gonna play this I'll put this on the big screen for us. Jews cannot hold public office. They can live here and they can live here peacefully and all these kinds of things. But no, this is a Christian nation and those who reject Christ and hate Christ, they can be in the car and we shouldn't mistreat them, but they don't get to drive. Listen to me, Christian,

you are allowed to have a country, you are. It is okay to say, no, this country, this nation is for us and our posterity. It's not for Hindus, it's not for Muslims, and it's not for Jews. It belongs to Christians. They've been rewriting this for a long time. There's been this sort of rewriting of the sort

of American experience by these Christian nut jobs to try to make it seem like America is only for white Christians. And they've been talking about it for, you know, for in all these different places. And this is just one of the mouthpieces that says it, but a lot of people believe it. There's a thing I saw this week, there's a fella by the name of Sam Cedar or setter. I'm not sure how it's pronounced. He's a, he does a show by the name of Sam Cedar or setter. I'm not sure how it's pronounced He's a he does a show called the majority report. Is it majority or minority? I don't know. It's one of those It's a majority or minority. I'm not sure

Show he doesn't show the pre cogs floating in the water bath the milk bath or whatever What's that? Oh the minority report? Oh prex are floating around in that water bath and they tell Tom Cruise when someone's going to get murdered. It's got to be majority then because minority is thought police. Yeah, well, I mean, that's coming. I guess that's coming too, but it's majority report. So he does a show where he does like a talk show and then he gets people to call in. Sometimes he debates people, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know a ton about him, but I watched him this week. There was a video of one left guy on the left versus 20 magas is what it was. And so he sits in a chair in the middle of this circle of people and then they say, okay, go.

And someone just fucking runs into the chair and says, hi, how you doing? And then they argue. And at a certain point, everybody around has flags. And at a certain point, if they think the person who's there, who they're who is arguing their point because they're all on the same team is failing, they start raising their hand with their flags. So they raise their flag in the air. And if I think, I don't know how many flags it takes, but that's enough

to be like, okay, that person has to get out now because they're losing so badly. And there was a girl who sat in front of him that was saying the United States is a white Christian nation. Like it's four whites and it's four Christians. It's not for anybody else. And this is just a, this isn't like a thought person, right?

Like this guy, right? This is just a person, just a person who identifies with that group. They think that that's the case. We grew up totally different. Our whole experience growing up was taught. I was always told this is a melting pot. This is the thing we're all gonna, you know, be a melting pot and we're going to, there's going to be different cultures and different stuff. And those cultures, those hard edges are going to bump up against one another. But that's the beauty of being a United States citizen is that, you know, some of that stuff. And I always grew up.

I never, I never, even though my parents were, you know, I think, I don't know that they were conservative. I know that they were conservative in a sort of social sense. I don't think they were conservative fiscally, but I think they were in a social sense. Even they never said to me that the United States, you know, speak English here in the United States. Even they knew the United States didn't have an official language until Trump wrote a executive order about it.

Jesus, did he really? I think he did. I think it was fucking I wrote an executive order about a fucking English. Is that the one he picked? You think he'd learn to fucking speak it? Yeah. You think you would actually have to be able to be proficient in it. He would have to be proficient in it before he actually chose it.

But I mean, I knew you grew up in that same culture. I did. Yeah. Like I like we learned as young people, and I think it's right. We learned that diversity is strength. Yeah. That the history of our country is a history, sometimes a deeply, deeply troubled, often, always,

a deeply troubled one of a mix and a clash and a melding of all different peoples and cultures and music and foods and influences and strengths. And like, that is what America was. America was the Ellis Island. That was the dream of America, is to come as an immigrant to America to seek your fortune. It was the, these were like the, the, the, the media that were, we were sort of exposed

to and the, and the stories about like our grandfathers and our fathers and our, you know, that came over and the boat on the, all of that mythos, all of that mythos, none of that needed or required white Christians only. Yeah. It didn't, none of that was built in. The opposite was baked in, right? The opposite of that stuff was always how I had these ideas implanted into my head as a young person, I guess, maybe indoctrinated into these ideas as a young person, I guess, maybe indoctrinated into these ideas, young person, but they also match the actual history of this country.

They match the actual, like objectively true history of a multinational, multicultural country. I listen to that thing and I'm like, why do you want that? Like, what do you want out of that? Like, what is what do you want out of this? Like what like when he says, of that? Like, what is, what do you want out of this? Like what, like when he says like everybody can be in the car, but only we can drive is what he says. When I heard that, I was like, well, why?

And then it's, the answer is fucking obvious. It's because he wants to control where we're going and where he wants to go is to a fucking gulag so he can drop off all the passengers that aren't fucking him. Like they pretend at this sort of like noise making that this is nonviolent. But that's not what they believe. If you really believe that everybody in that car was your equal, then you would behave that way.

But you can't have inequality that's not violent. All inequality is violence. Inequality equals violence. Again people for from right wing watch. This is a Nick Fuentes praises Joe Rogan and others for helping to spread the message about Jewish control. So cool. It's been a while since we had Nick on the show.

Dude, if Nick Fuentes ever praised me, like I don't even care. If I like, if I made a chocolate lava cake and Nick Fuentes was like, Tom made an awesome chocolate lava, I would never make that chocolate lava cake again. You know what I mean? I do. Like if Nick Fuentes is on your side, I'm not on that side anymore. You want to just, you want to check out at that point. Be like, no, I made a huge mistake in my life. Right.

Yeah. All right. Here he is. Candice on Theo Von and Theo Von's clearly red pilled. Stephen A. Smith had Candice Owens on. He's clearly red pilled. Jason Whitlock is praising Andrew Tate. He's clearly red pilled. Andrew Tate is on elk. Red pilled. Jason Whitlock is praising Andrew Tate. He's clearly red pilled. Andrew

Tate is on NELC, red pilled. Tate is on PBD, spreading the message. Ian Carroll on Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan seems to be, I don't know if we could say he's red pilled, but certainly he hints every now and again that he knows maybe more than he lets on. So it is a very exciting time and I love to see it. It does make me very happy and it's very white-pilling because like I said 10 years ago when I went to Charlottesville and we said Jews will not replace us, that sort of encapsulates both of the problems, right? Which is replacement migration and if Jews run society, are they not responsible? Back when I did that, I was radioactive. I was ostracized.

I was canceled. They said my career was over. And largely it was the Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro who were responsible for that. And then they were untouchable at that point. Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro who were responsible for that. Then they were untouchable at that point. And what a long decade it has been, what a long eight years it has been since that time. And now it's almost reversed.

Daily Wire is crashing and burning, desperate for relevance. Candice Owens has gone independent, going full red pill, talking about the things I've talked about in this show for years. It seems like the message is finally getting out there. So it's pretty remarkable to see. Sure is pretty remarkable to see the backsliding of American values into chaos and white supremacy.

Can we fucking stop talking about pills? Yeah, man. Can we fucking, I don't know what the fucking, I mean, I would imagine a white pill. I feel like I know what that is. I feel like I know what the white pill is, and I feel like I know what the red pill is. Fucking, I can't believe these people.

And what you're seeing is, you're seeing, I told you so. Like, I was a hateful racist years ago. I was a hateful racist before it was cool. Yeah, man, that's the line. I was a hateful racist before it was cool. Yeah, man. That's the line. I was a hateful racist before it was cool. And now look at all these races. Look at all these races coming out of the woodwork and he's named and chose. I didn't even heard. I've never heard of that stuff. But there was a bunch of people out there that are getting their information from these places. They're not bothering to get it on their own anymore. And they're listening to, you know, a person who's saying, everyone is out there to get

you. Everyone's against you. I'm the only one who can help you. I'm one of these people. I'm one of these people who's, you know, I'm going to peel back the layers of this onion. I know how the conspiracy works. And there's a ton of people in the United States that are believing everything that they have to say and Nick Fuentes as shitty and as horrible a person as he is as

a terrible as a person he is he is he's a relevant figure in that case. He is he is he's a relevant figure and he's what he's pointing at is terrifying right because what he's pointing at is like hey it used to be that we lived in a country of standards and social decency, where being an out and out racist and anti-Semitic bigot was a problem. And isn't the last decade been great? Because now I as a racist and an anti-Semite and a bigot have been empowered and emboldened and in fact lifted up by this new power structure. He's talking and he's saying like, you know, Ben Shapiro is now look at how irrelevant he is. Make no mistake. Ben Shapiro is also your enemy, right? Like anybody out there who's, who's, who's, who's parroting even some of these views is your enemy. They don't like you. They don't care. They want you to, they want to see bad things happen to you. They want to see bad, violent things happen to you. So they aren't your, they aren't your friends. So even if he's against like Ben Shapiro,

it's not an enemy of my enemy situation. They're both enemies. They're both in the same bag, whether or not they hate each other. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Well, because that's important too, I think, because they all hate each other, right? But they're all the bad guys. Like Candace Owens. Like, do I think that Nick Fuentes is pro Candace Owens, a black woman? No, he's a fucking misogynist and a racist. She is just another useful idiot. Yeah. She just, she just saying the same things he wants her to say. He's pleased that there is a world full of useful idiots, right? But he sees them as only useful idiots and they see him the same way.

They all think they're using each other. The right, the right is convinced of this. I'm sure of it that they are all using each other. You know, I'm just using that guy and his influence and his market and his audience. But you know, like he's just a fucking useful idiot and I'll just and they're all doing that with each other. They're all doing and somehow they've managed to cobble together this amalgamation, this fucking evil political Voltron that is mega. And it's this is not a this.

They don't have strength through their diversity. They have weakness through their diversity. And it is a weakness that we on the left can exploit But we can only exploit the weakness of that like weak amalgamation if we don't do the same thing Yeah, right on the left what we need to do and we've talked about this Like it is urgent that we do not form a shit Voltron, right that we formed the good one Right that holds together that says I'm grateful to have you. We disagree about things, maybe even important things. But what we don't disagree about

is the decency of human people, right? And the sanctity of dignity of the human animal, right? Like what we don't disagree about is like caring for one another as a real personal, political and social value. What we don't disagree about is a lot more than what we do. Yeah. So we can have disagreements. You don't have to be the perfect leftist. You don't have to be the perfect centrist, which you have to be as not right wing. Yeah. The right wing, they don't like each other. That's a weakness. We can exploit it. We should exploit it. We can't do

it if we do the same problem. If we have the same problem, we can't do it if we build the same exact weak shit Voltron. Sweet pain. Oh, sweet pain. This is the kind of man you should be married to. Not that communist who sings happy birthday every time he washes his hands. Which is a great segue into this episode, this, uh, intelligence or, uh, article, the Democrats can't afford to play dead. Liberals aren't going to be rewarded for their powerlessness. This was a pretty long and interesting article. And I really liked the very, very end of the last couple of lines at the very end of this

article to me really kind of sum things up in a way that I think is like maximally important. I sometimes think the reason Democrats are so despised is that everyone across the political spectrum Whether they know it or not has high expectations for the party some weird unconscious hangover from New Deal hegemony hegemony perhaps Republicans expect them to be good-faith opponents moderates expect them to be pragmatic Liberals expect them to be ardent champions of rights and the left and labor expect them to be good faith opponents. Moderates expect them to be pragmatic. Liberals expect them to be ardent champions of rights and the left and labor expect them to be sincere egalitarians. The Democrats are barely any of those things now. They could be again, but they'll have to learn in American politics.

You win or you lose righteous defeat gets you nowhere. There is no dignity dividend. That's a good way to bend that. I just think that is and it's something we talked about. So true. We talked about this like three or four weeks ago with, you know, you win and then you and then you sort things out. Right.

Like we've been saying, get all the people that are injured, get all the people that are hurt by that, get all the people like you suggest that like the people who are welcome are the people who think humans have dignity, right? Those are the people who are welcome. What I hear from a lot of people when I say get all the people they hate, they'll be like, well, you know, like, are you saying we welcome people like anti-trans people? No, I've never said that. Never, never once said that. Do I welcome, do I welcome people that are, that are anti-gay?

No, I wouldn't welcome that person. Never once said that. Do I welcome people that are anti-gay? No, I wouldn't welcome that person. That person doesn't think people have dignity. They think a certain type of person has dignity, right? They have selected out their sub-sex of humans, and they say those have dignity and those ones don't. Well, those aren't people I wanna associate with. Whether or not they pull the ticket for somebody who's not Trump in the future, that's fine. You can pull that

ticket and I hope you do and I hope you change your ways, but I'm not going to be your buddy. Right. I'm not going to, I'm not going to invite you in to work with me, but I think there are a lot of people out there that I'm not the same type of leftist they are. I'm a little different. And I've been called different names from all different types of people. To some people I'm a centrist, I don't think I am. To some people I'm a shit lib, I don't think I am. To other people I'm too far left.

I'm way too far left for them. I don't think I am. I think I'm at a point where I am who I am, I am who I am. Right? Like I am who I am. I'm not going to, I shouldn't have to change all like, like a tiny subsect of what I believe, this tiny little thing. When we believe 98% of the same things and I have to change this one tiny thing. I don't think I, I don't want to hurt anybody. I'm not one of these people who you suggest is going to like look at another class of human being and say they're less than me.

Right. So I don't think there's anything specific I need to change about myself in order for all of us to get together. We disagree on tiny minutiae things. That's okay. We can disagree on tiny minutiae things and still all work together and We've forgotten how to do that. I think I think rightfully a lot of people are afraid right now I think rightfully a lot of people are angry right now and they want to be angry and they don't want to be told Don't tell me I need to come together. Okay, if you're not ready to come together right now, then go be angry somewhere That's fine. Go be angry somewhere. I saw a couple of videos recently from people who are, you know, skeptics, large names, skeptics, who have basically said, I don't want to have to ever talk to anybody who voted in the last

election how I didn't, how they shouldn't have voted. I don't ever want to give them any grace, essentially. Yeah. That was the, that was the message. And it's like, fine. If you're that mad, nobody's asking you to do that work, right? Nobody's asking you to do that work But you're never going to win another election if every one of us feels that way If all of us feel the exact same way that if you voted differently in the last election I don't want to see you ever again. I don't want to hear from you ever again I don't want to try to change your mind. If all of us feel the same way, then we will never win another one.

That's exactly right. You're always going to be a loser. And then like this suggests, the only thing that wins and the only reason why you win is because you need to have that power in order to change things and you won't ever have that power again. So the people who don't want to do that and who are mad right now and who are upset right now and who are very, who are not in the place that they want to, that they can even reach out, don't do it. Nobody's fucking begging you to do it. Right? There's plenty of people out there that'll be able to do that work, but don't fucking

don't thwart it either. Yeah. Well, like, you know, it's it is it is sort of that like categorical imperative. Like what if everybody behaved the way you behave? Yeah. All right. Like how would that function socially? It's like I think about that sometimes when I drive like what if everybody drove the way I drive and I think, no, I don't think that'd be good. Maybe a lot of there'd be too many people checking their email, you know, like this is not good. Like, you know, like, but, but we we have to build. I think like part of this is going to. Like, it's, you know, like, but, but we, we have to build, I think like part of this is going to require us to really seriously take a hard look politically

and start pairing it back. And what I mean by that is I genuinely believe we're at a moment where we can coalesce around one simple idea. Should we have a democracy going forward or not? Should we have a functioning democracy going forward? Let's start there because there's the right, which does not believe that anymore. They do not believe that we are, we should, that it is important to have a functioning tricam, like bicameral tri- pronged government anymore. We have a part of the right right now does not believe

that there is value to the fourth estate, right? These are not, we don't have to get deep into the weeds of like your beliefs around how we should spend our money, the size of the military, like even most of like the dignity and sanctity of life stuff. Like we're at a place where it's like, all right, can we coalesce around the idea please that we should have a functioning democracy? Because if we can't coalesce around that, we might lose it. And if we lose that, then like, what do you have? I don't know. But you're not

going to have Republicans and Democrats anymore. The idea of Republicans and Democrats and a left and a right, all of that is predicated on a functioning government. If we break that, we don't get to keep that peace anymore. So why don't we just like coalesce around being pro-democracy first, for real, and then we'll figure the rest out in payroll, right?

Let's squabble over our victory, and let's, let's fucking fight each other over our riches after we've won. But if we lose and we lose our ability to have a real, a constitutional democracy, I mean, then that's game over. Yeah. All right. So that's going to wrap it up for this week. We'll be back on Monday with a full show and we're going to leave you like we always do with our skeptics creed.

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