Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 839: Calibri Knuckles

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:45 we bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, May the 1st. Man, I'm just fucking glad April's over. That was the longest fucking April.
Starting point is 00:02:08 A lot of protests today, it was May Day today. So there's a lot of protests in Chicago. I was invited to go down. I couldn't make it, of course, because we record on Thursdays and I just, I'm absolutely swamped with other work, so I couldn't make it down. But big protests in Chicago today, so,
Starting point is 00:02:22 and I know all over the nation. So May Day was a big protest day Although doesn't feel like May Day is like the word of the year like just like a fucking like really Feels like everybody run out my I want to run out of my fucking street. Just scream it until help arrives I don't know what help would look like I just need help. I would get it tattooed on my knuckles, but I don't want to get deported Well, you'd have to Photoshop above it Cecil what I could do is I could just do a bunch of planes crashing on my hand and then Photoshop the words made across it Jesus fucking Christ oh good we got some bad news but we got some good news too right Tom well
Starting point is 00:03:01 we didn't get good news our neighbors to to the north. I mean, that's good. You know, they kept the light on for us. The neighbors to the north who don't want anything to do with us. And I don't blame them. I don't fucking blame them. I don't fucking blame them a bit. You know, the, the, the, our entire nation has a car on blocks in our front yard. Right? We've got our country's become like an old shitty boat with the tarp half off of it and fucking mice in the engine. Yeah. And the carport is missing one support so it's falling down. Sacking a little up to the side.
Starting point is 00:03:39 That's America. Yeah. America just, it smells like old Bud Light Piss. That's what America this way You know like when you go to the stadium and you're like, ah, this is like cheap beer piss. Is that Kid Rock? I smell what is that? That's what I said the same thing. I just said the same thing. Why are you repeating that? Can you imagine what a Kid Rock cologne would smell like? Yeah, it would smell like yeah, Kid Rock cologne would be what? Like, Bud Light, Piss, and Roofies? Like is that?
Starting point is 00:04:08 It almost feels like it would be like Huffing a Trump Diaper. Like that's what it smells like. It would be Bud Light, Piss, Roofies, a Trump Diaper, and those yellow jackets you buy at the fucking truck stop. This tastes so bitter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, our neighbors to the north, they staved off, staved it off one, two, three, three.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Now we can count the place. Now they can have democracy. Yeah, man. I mean, like, like, it's so bad. It was so bad up there. It was so bad that Trump came in, and I actually wrote a status about this. I said, man, I wish someone would have came in
Starting point is 00:04:52 and threatened our democracy like that, and we banded together to fight authoritarianism. I'm like, oh wait, Trump did that, and we didn't listen. We didn't know. But in any case, they did, right? So they saw someone from the South who keeps on making jokes about taking over their nation, turning them into the 51st state, et cetera, et cetera, not treating them like a regular sovereign country.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And the guy who was their head conservative didn't even win his seat. He was going to be, they all thought that he was going to be sort of the next prime minister maybe three or four months ago. And then he didn't even win his seat to come back. So that tells you how far. And now I know when I posted this I said, you know, good for you guys. They were like, yeah, it's certainly not as rosy as you think cause there was still a lot of people in the conservative party up there who won, but it is still enough for, I guess, their their left leaning party to maintain control of their prime minister spot and the nation.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And so they saw Trump and they said, we don't want that. And they answered. And I think like, that just tells you think like that just tells you like I mean like don't you want To be Canadian when somebody looks at Trump and I don't want it and you're like man. Can I be with you? Can you adopt me? I would be Blossom every day. I promise you I'm already walking around apologizing constantly like why not? I know because I'm not cold. I'm willing to be cold, Cecil. I'll be so good at it. I could apologize. I like maple syrup.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I like poutine. I feel like all those things. You back off. I always think, I mean, isn't that just all I have to do to get, become a Canadian? That's essentially the citizenship test. You just named their entire citizenship test. Yeah. I am curious what you think about this.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I was thinking about this when I was thinking about this when I was thinking about this story a little bit. I wonder how important it was, because I don't think it's trivial, that the threat came from outside the house. Yeah, yeah, I think that's super important. I feel like countries do a, countries and people and cultures and societies do a much better job
Starting point is 00:07:03 at building that sort of quick, patriotic nationalist cohesion when the threat is from outside. When the threat is from inside our own house, that means that like, like it's harder to fight cancer than your neighbor, right? Like if you're like, Tom, do you want fucking cancer or beat up your neighbor?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Be like, I'll go beat up the neighbor. That sounds awesome. He's a really nice guy though. I don't want it. But like the other guy on the other side. Unless your neighbor's like George St. Pierre, then maybe not. Right, then I'll be like cancer please.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'll take your finest cancer sir. Yeah. But you know what I mean? I do think that that's a really big difference. It's so much harder to battle against yourself because in some ways, like if the call is coming from inside your house, what that means is that we are living with our own poison.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Right. Let me remind you of a timeline. 2000, Al Gore, George Bush, big fight between those two. Nation was very divided, super close. Like one of these elections that's like a razor's edge has to get decided by the Supreme Court. Al Gore numerically won it. A lot of people say, a lot of people say it was a real shitty decision.
Starting point is 00:08:12 They manipulated a bunch of shit to make sure that George Bush was in and Al Gore conceded. And now you get one year later, 9-11 happens. Yeah. And look at the difference in the nation between those months leading up to 9-11 and after 9-11. Look at how cohesive the nation was, gosh, for years after that. Do you remember real? I don't remember tons, and I was old enough to know politics at the time,
Starting point is 00:08:42 but it certainly didn't feel as divisive as it did as the lead up to 9-11 felt because everybody was at each other's throats before then. Yeah. 9-11 coalesced the nation. There was a strong sense that like, hey, like, like I can fight with my own family, but like you don't come, you don't come after, you know, from the outside. I think that's very common. I think that's very common. I think that's very common.
Starting point is 00:09:05 So it feels right to me. Now again, there's no guarantee that that coalescing in Canada would swing left or right. I think the only guarantee is that it will be a strong showing in one direction or the other, right? So, but I think that in this case, the right wing authoritarianism that they were responding to was so egregious and so outlandish,
Starting point is 00:09:31 and so honestly, existentially threatening to your nationhood, right? To set as much, like you make you a 51st state that were fucking not veiled threats there. So that banding together to be like, hey, no. I think that's, I mean, I'm very encouraged by that. And again, Canada, call me. Yeah, hey man.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Cheers, eh? Hell yeah, you betcha. Look, my company has operations in Canada. I can take a transfer, I think. I don't have a company, but I will transfer all operations to Canada. If they have the internet, you're good to go. Do they have the internet in Canada?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Is it strapped to a moose? How does that work up there? It's like two beavers just flapping their tails as fast as they can. There's just like a maple syrup scented wifi in the air. We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. We are farmers. This story is from Newsweek. Democrats win landslide and safe Iowa seat claim rebuke of Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So this is a seat that absolutely should not have flipped, should not have gone Democrat and not only did it go Democrat. It fucking, fucking demolished for Democrat. This was 79 to 21% of the vote. And really importantly, and I think this is going to be the tail of the tape Cecil, I really believe this for the midterms, fingers fucking crossed. Turnout was incredibly low. Apathy, right?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Apathy. And I think what you've got to see on the right. Turn it up. Yep, right now. What you got to see on the right is intense, intense apathy. Because if you're a right winger, unless you're hard maga, what the fuck? You're just going to stay home.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Even if you can't like fucking like bite it down, grit your teeth and go Democrat, you're going to stay home. I think this can't like fucking like bite it down, grit your teeth and go Democrat, you're going to stay home. I think this is going to be a, I mean, I'm fingers crossed, but you know, if we on our side can keep the energy up, there's no energy on the right. It's a fucking disaster buckle. Yeah, I hope, I hope that's the case. What I'm worried about is some of these nations and other places that fold to Trump in these next few, you know, maybe months that are leading up, especially if Trump is putting in tariffs or threatening other nations
Starting point is 00:11:54 to try to make them capitulate to him in some way. I wonder if they fold and then the right sees this as a, as a win, even though it has ripple effects and changes like how we're viewed as a nation for the rest of the world, et cetera. We talked about all this already, about how this is all, it's 100% damaging and you can't repair this reputation.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You can't reputation manage after Trump. It's just gonna be too hard to do. You're gonna have to build from the ground up because it's all just detonated. But I wonder if there will be winds in those spaces and those winds might convince some of these people that, oh, this was actually a good idea. I think the real thing that will keep this going will be people experiencing some sort of discomfort. I think like if a large group of people across the country start to experience discomfort, a large swath of MAGA or right leaning people
Starting point is 00:12:57 start to experience some sort of discomfort. And this is discomfort even described by Trump yesterday at the White House, he had said that there was going to be problems with tariffs and maybe your kid doesn't need $20. Maybe it only needs two, you know, that sort of thing. He said in the Oval Office, essentially saying there's going to be some real hard times. We're going to see some empty shelves. We're going to see some, some the trade is going to be very, it's going to be a, at this point,
Starting point is 00:13:26 we're going to have real disparities in trade where, you know, the amount of tariffs are going to really jack up prices for us. So it's going to be, it's going to be a weird road to ride and businesses are going to close because of it. People aren't going to buy as much because of it. That in turn will change how businesses like continue to stay open or whether they have employees. It's going to be a huge ripple effect. And so we'll get a chance to see what happens deep into this, but it's, it's not looking good as it starts out. And even just at the very beginning, it doesn't look good. So my hope is, is that there, that the discomfort is enough to convince the people on the right that are running the government in the sort of Senate to sort of step up and protect their constituents.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I don't know that they will versus Trump, but I am starting to see some cracks. It didn't make it into the notes today, but there was a vote that two senators who would have probably flipped it missed. So Mitch McConnell missed it and I think another person missed it. Might even be Rand Paul missed it. But there was a vote that was going to stop Trump's tariffs. Now it certainly wasn't veto proof, but there was a vote there that would have stopped it. They just didn't get enough people in there. But I think as time goes on that that number is just going to keep creeping up. So that's the, that's the hope.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I mean, that's the hope is that you just start, start to see people stop trying to work with Trump because they see that he's hurting the constituents and maybe he's going to hurt their chances four and six years down the road. You know, I wonder too, like if any of that, like, cause if it's one thing for the Senate to pass it, it's an entirely different thing for the house. And the house is, is a fucking disaster. I mean, it's been a disaster for, I don't even remember how long it's been a disaster for at least the last six, seven years.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's been a fucking. I think it was, Biden took over. He had the house and the Senate. Yeah, he did have the house and the Senate. So yeah, okay, it hasn't been as long as I thought. It's not been as long as I thought. Yeah, probably the last- So four years.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Four years. It's been at least two that it's been bad for sure. You know, like when these tariffs hit, it's not like, I love how he tries to portray it as like, oh, you know, like you're gonna go from buying $20 for your kid to $1 for your kid. If you phrase it in those terms, it's like, well, that's nothing. These are goods I don't need that I already have some of that will be reduced, not eliminated. Right. But like, if we are importing massively less stuff from China,
Starting point is 00:15:58 right. Massively less stuff. And China is buying massively less of our stuff. Because one of the chief imports, or one of our chief exports to China is food. Yeah. Farming material, like food, grain, shit like that, right? Pork. Huge amounts of that shit. Huge amounts of feed goes overseas.
Starting point is 00:16:19 If we're importing a lot less, you're looking at industries like trucking, farming, our shipping and ports, our railroads. Those consume a tremendous amount of fuel. So fuel and all the people that work in the refineries and in the oil fields. Like the ripple effects of these things are not minor. These are major big deal industry-wide, country damaging, poverty creating problems.
Starting point is 00:16:50 When Trump fucked with the farmers in his first term, because he fucked over the farmers fucking with China in his first term, and we had to bail the farmers out. We had to subsidize the farmers like crazy. Because if we hadn't subsidized farmers, they were going to go out of business left, right and center. Their fucking farms are going to fold up, left, right and center. So we had't subsidized farmers, they were gonna go out of business left, right, and center. Their fucking farms are gonna fold up
Starting point is 00:17:06 left, right, and center. So we had to subsidize farming. Are we gonna fucking subsidize trucking and logistics and refineries and shipping and ports? These are huge, massive industries that employ millions of people all over this country. It's isn't about like, oh, I'm not gonna buy like some cheap Chinese shit
Starting point is 00:17:29 I didn't really need anyway off Amazon. This is like, people are gonna not be able to feed their families. People are gonna be like wondering, you know, how they're gonna pay their mortgages. And lots of people aren't gonna pay their mortgages. And those homes are gonna go into foreclosure. There's a cycle to this, right?
Starting point is 00:17:45 The problem with these giant, massive economic fucking shotguns we blast in the faces of the American people like this is they create huge cyclical problems. These problems compound. Good times compound too, right? Virtuous cycles are just as real as vicious cycles, but they're both, like, it's really hard to break out of a vicious cycle.
Starting point is 00:18:09 We've seen it, we've lived through it. I'm 47, we've lived through, there was a recession in the 90s, there was the tech bubble burst, there was the housing market, the great recession when the housing market crashed the world economy. These are big deal things. And people lost everything. They lost everything during some of these recessions.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So like framing it as like, ah, like you're just gonna have to buy less cheap, you know, plastic shit from overseas. It's like, you're fucking lying, man. Yeah, yeah. That's not what this is about. The Target label is your best buy. Target. Darvel.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Miss Tarjay. Target is a fun place to shop. This story is from Pew Research. Most Democrats say their party's elected officials are not pushing hard enough against Trump policies. Duh. I think it's the whole article, but like the whole time I'm reading I'm like well Yeah, because like you haven't pushed them off a cliff like that's as far as I want to push I want pushing until the until like sure until there's a loud squishy thump at the bottom
Starting point is 00:19:36 I want to push on him like one of those fucking chest thumping dummies you train fucking CPR Hard as you can until you press it through the back. That's what I want to press. You know, like, of course not, because name a Trump policy that isn't damaging someone, right? That's the thing we're talking about here. It's not like Trump is trying to pass fucking universal health care.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Trump's not trying to pass some sort of minimum wage, like $20 minimum wage. Trump isn't doing any of that. What Trump is doing is he's deporting people who shouldn't, who to other countries they aren't even from. They aren't even the country of origin. Trump is dismantling our government before our eyes. Anything that comes up that's going to sort of help bolster that. Why would you want to help that?
Starting point is 00:20:24 There is no common ground. What are we talking about? There is not, there doesn't even exist. So the idea, if you're a Democrat and you're one of these people who they, they polled and they said, well, you know, I really just think we should sort of meet in the middle. What's the middle? They're not anywhere near the middle. They're destroying the entire country and any bill that they create or pass is going to basically bolster all the effects of Trump. So why on earth would you want to work with them?
Starting point is 00:20:51 If they were like I suggested before, if they were to fucking suggest to do universal healthcare and there wasn't some weird line item underneath to be like, also we could kill whoever we want or something, then yeah, fucking support it. But that's never gonna happen. It's literally not gonna happen. No, man. And like, there are people on the left that were sort of darlings of the left.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Like I'm thinking of like right now, Governor Whitmer. From Michigan. Yeah, fucking A, dude. And she's like meeting with Trump. And it's like, what are you fucking meeting with this man for? She's on stage with him. Like his supporters tried to kidnap and fucking assassinate you. Like at his, I could not be more floored by that. He was,
Starting point is 00:21:36 he did everything other than say go get her boys. I mean seriously everything short of that and kind of winky face that Yeah, fuck that lady. I don't understand that does that make any sense to you? No, what absolutely not a stupid just stupid and that and you're seeing that all over yeah I'm with all different you're seeing with you're seeing it with universities you're seeing with other people you're seeing it with all these Tech tech people even people that aren't that aren't sort of tech bros that were at his inauguration We're seeing it with other people too. You're seeing it with all kinds of people. They're all bent in the knee.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And it's like, well, like, I know part of me is like, what the fuck do you think, man? Like this is, you've got to see Trump and say, all right, this shit is massively unpopular. Look at the polling numbers. Look at his favorability numbers. He's in power, but he is not popular. Now, if I'm running a brand or a business, I'm trying to sell my shit. Not to Trump. I'm trying to sell my shit to the people. And I know you've got to walk a fine line because he can ruin your business, right? He can just like fucking write something down on an executive order called, this should be illegal, but I fucking wrote it anyway. And I'm literally going to target your business for fucking whatever, while I
Starting point is 00:22:47 sell bitcoins out of my ass or whatever nonsense he's doing now. But like, I do understand that you that, that, that angering the man directly on a one-to-one basis means you will be directly targeted illegally and who cares. I get that. But this like fucking constant bootlicking by politicians? I mean, girl the fuck up. We talked about this when we talked about Susan Collins. You know, like, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Get the actual fuck out of here. Do your job. What the, Governor Whitmer almost lost her fucking life to this man. Yeah. And she's gonna have a fucking meeting? Not a meeting, she was on stage with him. I would, yeah, that's fucking insane, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Insane. She went to his fucking rally, man. She's on stage with him. Yeah, there is nothing, like look, I'm not even kidding. If you said, Tom, I'll give you a million dollars. I'll give you $10 million to walk on stage and give even the appearance of endorsing Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I'd be like, yeah, no, fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that forever. You know, like she gets on the stage for the $850 million deal that she wants to make with the administration. This is, this isn't how we want politics to work. I mean, like, ask yourself this. Ask yourself this, Republicans.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I know you don't fucking listen to me because you're all fucking like, got your head up, fucking Ben Shapiro's ass or whatever. But like, ask yourself this. Do you want this the other way around? Yeah, I know. Do you want some, let's just, let's turn Trump into Obama. Suddenly, all these Republican governors, like let's pick Abbott.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Abbott has to go to the White House and kiss the ring of Obama or else he's not going to do something in the state. He's not going to run a Jade Helm thing there or whatever he's going to do. I forgot about Jade Helm. That was a great reference. In any case, he's not going to do a thing, right? Do you want that? Do you want this sort of favorable, the way
Starting point is 00:24:52 Trump treated people in COVID? You got to know me. You got to do this for me. This is one hand washes the other, if not. Because you don't want that one of Democrats in there. You only want people to kiss the ring when it's your guy in there. Well, what happens when the other guy gets in there? You don't want this. You don't want
Starting point is 00:25:07 this sort of reaction. And I'll tell you what, there's a part of me that's like, make them fucking eat it next time. Next time, do what they're doing and make them fucking eat it. Make them realize how fucking embarrassing this is and how this isn't how government should work and make them realize how bad it is and get them all up In arms and then have one Democrat step forward me like let's change the rules and then fucking put some shit on the books for it Yeah, man make them eat it for a little while make them fucking realize how shitty this is and then be like, you know what there's a Suddenly there's a fracturing in the party of the Democrats
Starting point is 00:25:46 and they want to change it so that it's not like that ever again. And then you can always dump fucking Republicans, be like, who will change it? And then you just fucking let them follow you. And then just change it and take away fucking executive power. Go in and strip it all. Make it so that this shit doesn't fly ever again. Make sure there's teeth. If you fuck this up again, you're not, fuck you. There'll be a no confidence vote. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Make big changes next time, but for a little while, make them eat it for a bit so that they realize how shitty it is and how bad this is if you need to change this. You know, I was wondering earlier today if it is even possible to roll back what has happened. Like, you know, like you were talking about talking about like our allies and like rebuilding
Starting point is 00:26:31 our reputation and the analogy I was thinking while you were talking about that is like, it's like, it's like trying to have a marriage recover from an affair, right? It's like, it's just never the same after that. You know, there's, there's a, there's a broken trust. Everybody understands that like, okay, but you guys are still one election away from fucking us, you know? Like things are fine now, but you're just one election away from fucking us over.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So like, we're gonna kind of look at you as scant to win for the last however many years we haven't. And I think about like the unitary executive theory, and I'm like, I don't know if the structure of government, cause that's been around now for 20 years, 25 years, the unitary executive theory, which is the theory, which is like the bedrock for all of this executive power creep. And I wonder like, is it even possible to govern properly without this like ridiculously overpowerful executive branch now? Have we moved so far down this path that we just are sort of stuck
Starting point is 00:27:33 in this way of doing things? We have a fantastically dysfunctional legislative branch. Our legislative branch is garbage. I mean it's just it's a complete garbage. The the legislative branch gets nothing fucking accomplished. It works very slowly, if at all. I mean, and like you pointed out, we had the left had the House and the Senate, but if you recall, like, they still couldn't get a ton of shit done,
Starting point is 00:27:59 like, because they had such a thin margin, and like a couple of the Democrats they had were liars. Yeah, they had the two senators that were bad. Yeah, they had fucking cinema down in Arizona and you had that fuckwit in West Virginia, whose name I can't remember, that kept fucking, they were fucking secret Republicans or whatever their bullshit was. So like, I wonder if we're even at a place where we can roll back this stuff anymore and actually expect to function, or if we've built new structures that require in some ways
Starting point is 00:28:32 the government to work like this. I don't know that that's true or not true, but I worry about it. Because like, there's a, you can't stuff the genie back in the bottle element to a lot of the way the power tends to work. Yeah, I think you just gotta trick people into doing it. I think this is one of those moments
Starting point is 00:28:51 where you trick the genie to go back in the bottle. I think you have to say their fucking name backwards or whatever to get them to go back. So what you do is you trick the right into realizing that executive overreach is a bad call. You trick the right into realizing that's awful. And then you make them change it. And you do it because that will be a bipartisan bill
Starting point is 00:29:16 to change it because they will wanna limit your power. And so you make sure that it happens. It comes to the floor. There's a, like I say, a schism in your side that allows it to happen so that they have plenty of votes that they can pull some of that power back. So that, and I think like that's what you gotta do because if not, what's gonna happen is,
Starting point is 00:29:36 is you're gonna have this tipsy-turvy back and forth thing. Maybe, I mean, who the fuck knows what's gonna happen in fucking even two years, let alone four. But if, let's presume that this thing is still on the turntable and we're not gonna fly off into the fucking universe because Trump's gonna try to stay for another extra term, but let's presume that there's an actual real true
Starting point is 00:29:57 and fair election come November at 28. We're gonna be looking at this, you know, this could be now the Democrats' turn. And do you just want this back and forth where it's like, oh, now it's the Democrats' turn. Now it's the Republicans' turn to be assholes. Now it's the Democrats' turn to be assholes. Do we just want that or do we want to like try to progress and protect ourselves and protect our nation and build good relationships? Do we want to do that or do we just want to fight each other all the time? Well, I'm really worried the answer's gonna be
Starting point is 00:30:28 we just want to fight each other all the time, Cecil. Yeah, it's fine. I like your plan. Here's the thing, man. I like your plan and I think you're right. It requires the Democrats to do something that they've historically proven themselves to be bad at, which is to move in concert together strategically. Yeah, they can't do that. Which is bad at it. Yeah. Is bad at, which is to move in concert together strategically.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, they can't do that. Which is bad at it. Yeah, it's bad at it. Be kind, rewind videos. All the cards. Sorry. What a fun new video. Wow, what a difference.
Starting point is 00:30:55 This story comes from CBS News. US economy went into reverse in the first quarter in their GDP data shows. It's worse than that, actually. There's some parts of this article, I think, that are really worth reading to you guys. So the nation's gross domestic product, that's the total value of products and services,
Starting point is 00:31:09 shrank at a 0.3 annual rate, down from growth of 2.4% in the final three months of 2024. It is the worst quarterly performance for the U.S. economy since early 2022 when the economy was in recovery after cratering during the pandemic. It's much worse than that number appears though, because a lot of what is built into there, into those numbers, are panic buying for the tariffs. There is a lot of noise in that number. That number is worse than what is shown there, Because when the tariffs were announced, there was a huge amount of businesses,
Starting point is 00:31:46 not even people, businesses who rushed to panic by their goods ahead of the tariffs going into effect. Those purchases artificially inflate and come into the GDP number when it's measured. So that number's actually off, because that's artificial. You got to pull that noise out of there to see what's actually happening. And if you pull that noise out of there to see what's actually happening, the highest likelihood is that we are already in recession.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Sure. And of course, and what happened was if you saw the news today, when they asked Trump about it, he blamed Biden. He said, these are Biden's numbers. When he came in and the market was good, he claimed those numbers Right, but now he's saying that they're Biden's numbers. This is this this guy cannot take responsibility for anything Because on the one hand he kind of out of the side of his mouth is somehow taking responsibility About before when he's saying you're not gonna have as many dollars to buy, right? That's him kind of saying, you know, I am, but he's not willing to just come right out and have the guts and the chutzpah to say, you know what, this is gonna be, it's gonna be painful for the American people, the market's down and that's to be expected, etc., etc. You know, there's so many ways, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:02 every time you hear Trump talk, you always think, gosh, you're just so bad at this. You're just so bad at being able to like control a situation. What he wants is all the praise when it's praise, and he wants to deflect every bit of criticism when it's criticism. That's what he wants. That's what he's wanted since the beginning, and this is an opportunity for him to see how bad it is. Wait till the second quarter. I'm gonna tell you right now, the second quarter is gonna be dismal. It's gonna be dismal as fuck. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And you know, the same, if you look beyond just the GDP number, which has the noise of the panic buying to get ahead of the tariffs, and you start looking at some of the numbers behind those numbers, you start to see an even more bleak outlook. ADP is one of the nation's largest payroll processors,
Starting point is 00:33:46 so there's sometimes a really good indicator flag on unemployment, and so unemployment numbers and employment numbers are looked at a lot with ADPs reporting. That number came out showing showing private employers added 62,000 jobs last month. That's less than the 134,000 that were predicted and that's less than the 228,000 jobs that were added in March. Jobs data is starting to slow down. Jobs, so there's really like, you can look at things like the markets, you can look at things like GDP, all of that stuff is, there's, there's, there's really like, you can look at things like the
Starting point is 00:34:25 markets, you can look at things like GDP, all of that stuff is, I think when you're measuring the economy, my, my personal fucking half informed opinion important, but it's labor over everything. Labor data over everything. Labor data drives everything. So when that labor data starts to shrink, that's when we know we're in real trouble. And those numbers are already beginning to shrink. When those numbers shrink,
Starting point is 00:34:50 that suggests that we are on the bleeding edge of a recession. And that recession is entirely artificial. All Trump had to do was fucking get in the car, set the fucking cruise control, and take credit for the ride. That's it. Because everything was coming up fucking millhouse. Everything was good.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And he didn't have to do any of this. GDP was strong. He didn't have to do any of this. Job growth was strong. Inflation was coming down. GDP growth looked strong. The economy by most major measures was looking very fucking good. Very fucking good in December and early January.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It took them a hundred days to just create a crisis for literally no reason that we won't get anything out of. Call me when the fucking steel factory opens up guys. Call me when there's a big giant factory that everybody that graduates from high school, like it's fucking 1956, can graduate out of and go get a great union job with one income and support a family and have two cars in the driveway and a house in the suburbs. You guys, if that fucking happens, I want you to ring my number so I can say I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I want you to call me. I'll give you my fucking private cell for when that happens. It ain't gonna happen. That's not happening. There will be no return, no mass return of major manufacturing in America. That's not happening, dude. These tariffs will all be rolled back. All of this is artificial and all of this is short term.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And there will be some like minor concessions made at the edges that amount to nothing. And they won't add up to the same, to the amount of damage we created to get them. Yeah, but every single tiny bit that he gets that's positive, he's gonna claim that is worth it. Yep, a thousand percent, man. Dude, he'll put people out of work and then he will claim credit for when they get their jobs back,
Starting point is 00:36:40 when he fixes the problem. It's like setting your own fucking house on fire and then running in and saving your cat and being like, I'm a hero. ["I'm Lovin' It"] This story's from CNN. House Republicans block vote to probe Hegseth's signal use. Caliente.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Caliente. All right, so evidently the House, try to restrain your shock guys, did not act with great integrity and transparency and oversight to make the American people and our US Armed Forces safer. Instead, they just, in a political move, were like cock blocked any attempt, by changing the rules by the way, cock blocked any attempt to even like investigate what happened, which is totally what you do when you- What kind of rules did they change?
Starting point is 00:37:31 They changed, I don't really understand the rule change, Cecil, I'm not gonna lie to you. So here, let me read from the article directly. GOP leaders tucked a provision into a rule approved Tuesday that effectively prevents Democrats from forcing a vote on resolutions of inquiry, a tool often used by the minority to try to launch an investigation. Such resolutions typically fail, but with controversy mounting over Hegseth's use of
Starting point is 00:37:52 signal to communicate military plans, Republicans wanted to avoid a vote that could succeed in the narrowly divided chamber if just a handful of GOP members broke ranks. This is a tactic we see all the time, primarily from Republicans, which prevent a vote on issues. They do not want issues to go, I don't understand that rule change, I don't want to pretend that I do, but what that amounts to is, we're gonna change a rule
Starting point is 00:38:18 so that this never gets to a point of vote. Because if it gets to a point of vote, you're now on fucking record. And Mitch McConnell was the fucking king of this shit. The absolute king of this shit. And Mike Johnson's done a pretty good job in the House of cock blocking anything approaching decency and approaching any kind of like real transparency and ethics investigations. What I gotta say though is just what I said before is
Starting point is 00:38:41 Republicans, do you really want this? Is it what you really want? Because what happens when the next and another administration comes in that happens to be, you know, democratic or left leaning and you say, you know what, I want to investigate some sort of scandal and now you can't do it because you changed the rules while you were in power. Why do you keep hamstringing yourself? Why do you keep hamstringing the power of the of the unit you belong to so that you don't so that the minority has no power? You should have it so that there's more power in the minority so that they can do things like this.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Wouldn't you want that to happen? If like, again, let's roll it back to Obama. If Obama was in there, wouldn't you want to call Hillary Clinton in front of you and say, why are you using a private email server? What about her emails? Let's go, let's talk about Benghazi. You guys did it like crazy while you were in there. Now, granted, you had the majority at the time, but what if you didn't? What if you didn't have it?
Starting point is 00:39:39 Wouldn't you still want to hear her, give her answers, et cetera, et cetera? It doesn't make any sense. The other thing that doesn't make any sense too, is them protecting this guy. Like what I don't get is, here's a guy who's just a total fuck up. He's not part of, like he's certainly not part of, you know, this, a political tradition.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He's a TV guy. He's not anybody you owe anything to. It's not like he worked his way up and has tons of relationships with all these people where, you know, hey, you know, you covered for me before in the past, you helped me with this bill and I'm always on your side now, et cetera, et cetera. One hand washes the other in this house, et cetera. None of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:18 This is just a dude. He's just a guy who happened to be a pundit. Like he's not a person you owe any loyalty to. And if he fucks up so bad You should be the one who should say I don't want this guy as part of my fucking crew anymore get rid of him Look at what what happened with that guy who's fucking? He's got the gold bars in his fucking cloth Yes, is he found the gold bars like get rid of that guy there wasn't I don't know a single person who was on the left. It was like nah, man
Starting point is 00:40:47 I think this is a this is other trumped up charges. This is bullshit. This is a weaponizing your justice system Nobody said that Get a fucking bottom out of there. What are you talking about? Get him get rid of them That's the thing they just fucking get rid of these people Don't don't hide behind this party over country stuff like this is such an important job this guy's job is so important and he's such a fuckup do you really want this guy to be in charge of something so important have these inquiries figure out whether you want
Starting point is 00:41:19 to still be part of that administration get rid of him Trump will find another sycophant they They exist, man. Yeah, I know. He can find another. Yes, man. How hard is that in the Trump administration? You know, that's a really good point. Why work so hard to keep somebody so replaceable? Yeah. This is, that's weird, right? It's also super weird because the investigation would take 15 minutes, right? Hey, I'm going gonna call Jeffrey Goldberg over at The Atlantic.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Hey, Jeff. Yeah, it's Tom Curry over at Congress. Yeah, I'm in Congress now. Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh. I don't know how that happened either. A lot of bad calls, a lot of bad decisions. Listen, I'm heading up this ethics inquiry. Can you just shoot me your emails, man?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Maybe your signal messages? That'd be great. Hey guys, I wrapped up the investigation. Cause it's really straightforward. It's not a complex issue. It's not hard, man. We don't have a lot of work to do here. This is not a complex issue.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's also, this isn't Hunter Biden's laptop, right? Cause like, here's the thing with Hunter Biden's laptop. They got his laptop. There was nothing on it. That's it. That's the whole story. They kept trying to say there was something there and then they were like, well, what's there? And they're like, we need an investigation.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Like, open the laptop, press the power button and unlock it. Start looking at the files. So you should have this done by 3 PM. This isn't that fucking hard. And don't show me a dick pic. I don't give a shit. If you always fucking that's nothing. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Like pretending that this is anything complicated is its own kind of obfuscation. There's nothing complicated about the signal shit. Hey man, you supposed to use signal for that? No, you supposed to use signal for that? No. You did. Did you invite anybody you shouldn't have fucking invited and talk about what planes and what weapon systems are being used at what specific times?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Oh yeah, I did that. Well then you're fucking fired, man! What are you doing? What are you talking about? This would take, if you were at a real job and you got this call at 905 by 915 that guy's fired by 10 o'clock. You're having a fucking French crawler Yeah, this is not complicated your height your higher
Starting point is 00:43:32 You got a run calls to hire the new guy at 11 o'clock for real man. Yeah for real I don't like this is all such fucking complete nonsense But if you want to know like how fucking fucked up it is, think about George Santos. Remember Santos? The fucking lying liar that lied all the time? He was fucking this crazy comic book villain of a liar. Just like he was lying constantly.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised if he took his glasses off and his nose and mustache came with it. Like it was ridiculous. They protected that guy for fucking ever. Forever after it came to light that guy was lying. They protected him until it became possible politically to replace somebody else into that seat.
Starting point is 00:44:17 To where his seat wasn't necessary for the majority. They protected him on the right. Do you remember that shit? They were like, reporters would come up to him, up to like the house leader. And they'd be like, hey, what about George Santos? He's clearly full of shit. And they'd be like, nah, he was just sentenced
Starting point is 00:44:32 to seven years in prison, man. Yep. That dude sucks. That dude sucked the whole time. That wasn't complicated. Everybody knew he was lying. And nobody was like, oh, this is a dilly of a pickle. We're really going to need to suss this one out.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's fucking bullshit. They're lying. They're lying liars, man. See, so we alluded to this in the front of the show, system verge. Donald Trump might actually believe these Calibri labels are real MS-13 tattoos. So, like, what are the fucking most tragic things about the way the world works now is how stupid the human tragedies like are, like the, the, the foundations of human tragedy should be serious.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And instead they're just like slapstick. They're slapstick. So in this case, the, the, the, the gentleman, a brego Garcia, uh, who got, um, sent to El Salvador unlawfully as part of what was initially claimed to be an administrative error. Trump, they keep going through great pains to say, yeah, but you know, he was he was MS-13. He was part of this like terrorist gang organization, this MS-13 gang. And then as proof of that, Trump is showing a picture of this guy's knuckles and his knuckles are tattooed. And they are not tattooed guys with the words or letters
Starting point is 00:46:07 or whatever, MS-13. That's not what's on there. Yeah, they have like a marijuana plant. There's like a skull in there, a cross. I don't know exactly what order they're in, but. Yeah, it's so, it's like, yeah, a marijuana plant, like a smiley face with X's for eyes, a cross and a skull. Those are the actual tattoos.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And what they're trying to do is that fucking FBI bullshit where it's like every symbol means something. It's some fucking criminal numerology nonsense, right? Yeah. So they're saying like, oh, the- When in reality, Tom, if you look at an MS-13 gang member, they just have like MS-13 tattooed on their forehead. Right dude. They don't they're not hiding it from somebody. It's not like some sort of secret fucking Codex that you have to look up. It's not a fucking oval teen. We have to spin a fucking thing and be like Well, what does the skull mean? Oh, the skull means three like that's not that's bullshit
Starting point is 00:47:02 These people have it like on their fucking neck, on their hands, on their arms, and it says 13 or MS-13. Like these people don't hide this shit. They're fucking literal gang members, man. What are you talking about? They don't hide it. But instead, on this particular image, they have photoshopped the, Ian, the fucking, like, you suggest Calabri font
Starting point is 00:47:30 MS-13 over his knuckles. Yeah, and there and this is clearly an attempt to say these symbols Mean these things right? Yes, but Trump guys Trump is so spectacularly stupid that when he's being interviewed The interviewer calls him out and says hey, well well, I mean, obviously like he didn't actually have MS-13, he had some other stuff. And Trump says, no, that's what he had. I'm actually gonna read this. I'm gonna read this.
Starting point is 00:47:54 You know, should I play it? Yeah, play it. Go ahead and play the audio. We have to get him out and we're doing it. And you'll pick out one man, but even the man that you picked out, he said he wasn't a member of a gang, and then they looked, and on his knuckles, he had MS-13.
Starting point is 00:48:10 There's a dispute. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. He had MS-13 on his knuckles tattoo. He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way, but let's move on. Wait a minute, Terry, Terry, Terry. He did not have the letter MS-13. It says MS-13.
Starting point is 00:48:24 That was Photoshop. So let one three. That was photoshop Uh, so let me that was photoshop terry you can't do that. Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime You know you're doing the interview. I picked you because frankly, I never heard of you, but that's okay I picked you terry, but you're not being very nice. He had m We'll agree to disagree. I want to move on to something else Do you want me to show you the picture? I saw the picture. We'll agree to disagree.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Oh, and you think it was Photoshopped. Here we go. Here we go. Don't Photoshop it. Don't look at his hand. He had MS13. He did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way. I'm not an expert on them.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I want to turn to you, Crane. No, no. I want to get to you, Crane. Terry, Terry, no, no. No, no. He had MS as clear as you can be, not interpreted. This is why people no longer believe the news, because it's fake news.
Starting point is 00:49:08 When he was photographed in El Salvador, they aren't there. But let's just go home. They aren't there when he's in El Salvador. Oh, they weren't there, but they're there now, right? No, but they're there now. Terry. Ukraine, sir.
Starting point is 00:49:19 He's got MS-13 on his knuckles. All right. Well, we'll take a look. It's such a disservice. We'll take a look. Why don't you just say it? Yes He does, you know go on to something else contested Ukraine Okay, time 100% does not have this tattooed on his knuckles Tom. Here's what I wish the reporter would have done Go get the picture. Yeah when Trump said you want to see it.
Starting point is 00:49:46 You said you want to show me? Show me the picture. Let's go, go get the picture. I don't need to fucking move on to Ukraine. Who the fuck cares? Let's look at this together. Let's spend the rest of the fucking day on this. I will spend my whole day looking at this picture and recording your reaction to that picture, and showing the American public your reaction to that clearly Photoshopped picture. I will do that. This is my day now. This is it. This is what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I would fucking 100% jettison the rest of the interview. Instead he's like, no, no, no, let's move on. Oh, let's agree to agree. No, let's not agree to disagree. There's no agree to disagree. There's an objective reality. And then there's what he's trying to portray. I know, dude. I would be like, let's go to El Salvador. Let's look, let's knock on his fucking prison door and look at his fucking hands. It's not on there. The thing is though, that I do think Trump thinks it because he's a stupid fucking person. I do think he's stupid. It's either that though or, and I think I kind of like this article because they're like either that or he's just 100% trying to gaslight people.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He's 100% trying to gaslight the audience into thinking that it's there. And if he says it enough times and if he lies about it enough, then people will believe it. They'll see that and they'll be like, see, it's on his hands and you guys don't even believe it's on his hands. If he says it enough, people will believe it. Oh yeah. Either that or he's stupid.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And I don't discount either one, right? I don't know either one. I'm not going to pretend to know him, but I will say, man, it leaning toward him being stupid is real easy because I've seen all the other stuff that he's done. It doesn't seem like he's got a lot of brights going on there. It doesn't seem like he's got a lot of, a lot of thinking thoughts that are running through that bean of his. So I a hundred percent agree that it could be stupidity,
Starting point is 00:51:34 but it could also just be him being malicious. Then this is genuinely malicious, genuinely malicious. This is, this is straight up disinformation. If he's that, if he's not being stupid and not, if he's trying to obfuscate, this is fucking genuinely malicious. This is a post-truth moment world. Like this is a post-truth world moment, I should say. And that's super important.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And I think it's also important to note that it doesn't matter. It does matter, but it's also, it's just, it's not better if he's stupid. Right? It like, there's a lot of like excusing of Donald Trump that happens. Like people are like, I just didn't know. Like that's not okay. That's, that means he's incompetent. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:16 There's only two things that are possible. He's either incompetent or he's lying. Either one is a problem, a real big problem. And you know, remember what he thinks fools you. So what I mean by that is, do you remember when he took a Sharpie and he drew on that thing where the hurricane was gonna be, right?
Starting point is 00:52:38 He thought that would fool you because he is the kind of person who would find that convincing himself. So here's what I mean. Like if I am going to lie to you, I'm going to tell you a lie that I think is convincing. Now you might not think it's convincing, right? But I am never going to tell you a lie I don't find convincing.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I am never going to try to cheat or steal or trick somebody in a way that in my mind doesn't seem like I'd fall for that too, right? So this is a guy who took a fucking permanent marker and drew on a fucking, like, and it just very obviously drew on a fucking piece of paper with a marker and held it in front of people and said, here's how I'm lying to you. That either means this is why, this would fool me.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I guess there's a second option. Because it means like either this would fool me, this looks believable, I'll try this. Or it means I have no respect for you at all. Yeah, I have no respect for you at all. I think this little of you. I think it's, I think it's, there is something to that because listen to how he talks about
Starting point is 00:53:40 whenever he'll say something like, nobody knew how difficult this was. It's like, no, you didn't know how difficult it was. Right. He can't, he doesn't live in a world where you exist, only he exists. That's exactly it, dude. So there's kind of this constant, like, if it would have filled him, then it'll 100% fool you.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And it's the same thing here. It's like, nobody knew how explosive nuclear bombs were or whatever he'll say. And you'd be like, no, I think we all kind of knew like we knew we knew these things are really dangerous nobody knew how difficult it was to be a doctor no I think we knew that too yeah we are 100% down we had that pin down before we knew we had concepts of a plan I'm starved got any pizza in the freezer? We make fresh pizza.
Starting point is 00:54:27 That's complicated. Not anymore. We use pizza in a skillet from Chef Boyardee. Ours, Technica, seasonal COVID shots may no longer be possible under Trump administration. The FDA was supposed to decide on Novavax vaccine by April the 1st, but it now wants more data. It wants more data because there is a new stupid fucking rule by idiots who don't understand
Starting point is 00:54:49 anything at all about fucking healthcare, who will kill people with this policy. Just that is just a fucking straight up numerical statistical fact. Will kill people as a result of these policy that is basically saying every time that there is a update and update to the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, it has to go through a brand new start to finish phase three double-blind placebo controlled clinical study. That's fucking insane. The updates to the COVID vaccine should be thought of
Starting point is 00:55:22 in much the same way that we think of the updates to the seasonal flu vaccine. Seasonal flu vaccine. We have a base technology. We know that it works. We figured out this vaccine. We've tested this vaccine using the double blind placebo controlled studies in phase three clinical trials across a large cohort of people.
Starting point is 00:55:38 We've done all that work. Then all they do is make minor tweaks to the base. And I'm oversimplifying because the science is beyond me, because I'm not trying to pretend that expertise I don't have. But like they make these minor tweaks in order to keep the vaccines current and up to date with the variants that are moving around, right? And usually they get it close to right and sometimes they don't. When they don't, it's a big problem.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Flu season this past year went through the fucking roof. The numbers were through the roof. And that's because the flu shot this year did not cover the flu variants that was circulating broadly in the United States. Novavax uses a standard protein technology. That's actually the most recent COVID booster that I've gotten is the Novavax booster.
Starting point is 00:56:22 It doesn't use the mRNA technology, uses the more standard protein technologies. Those take longer and this will cost tens of millions of dollars and by the time they're done, they're outdated. There's no point in doing them. Yeah, the problem is you're racing. There's a race. The virus is gonna mutate, you need to get out
Starting point is 00:56:43 in front of it and you need to make sure. Because we do this with other stuff. It's safe. Like, wait, these people keep saying how unsafe this is. And you're like, point me to all the data that shows how unsafe it is. I know. Because we do this all the time. Point me to all these people dropping dead because of the COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Point me to all these people that are dropping dead because of the flu vaccine. Point me to all these problems with these people. They're spending the rest of their life. they're having issues for the rest of their life because of these vaccines. Show me that stuff. Instead, there's nothing. They don't have anything. So it's just this, like, look, man,
Starting point is 00:57:12 if people want to get boosters, like, that's the thing too that they say is like, well, I don't care if you get it, but I'm not going to get it. Don't force me to get it. And it's like, no, what they want to do is make sure nobody gets it. They want to go out of their way to be sure
Starting point is 00:57:23 that nobody has access to these things. That's dangerous. That's beyond dangerous. Yeah. That's a great point. These are not mandatory vaccines. They've never been mandatory vaccines. The COVID vaccines were mandatory for some groups of people.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Uh, the U S military, nurses, doctors, people in healthcare settings. Right. And that made, that made sense, but like the average person was never required to get a COVID vaccine. Lots of people got them. Lots of people didn't. None of the boosters to my knowledge, I could be wrong, but I don't believe that any of the boosters have ever been required.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Some of us really want these boosters. Some of us have, you know, people in our lives that we love that are like immunocompromised. Some of us are ourselves immunocompromised. Some of us have, you know, other conditions which COVID is not a minor cold or, you know, inconvenience for. I personally do not want to get COVID again. I get every booster as soon as it's available. I get one every six months. I've only had COVID once. I would like to never have COVID again in my life. It sucked.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I have asthma. It was really fucking unpleasant. And there was like a couple of points where I'm like, this shouldn't get worse. I don't want this to get worse than it is. Cause it's really kicking off my asthma and it's creating a problem for me. So like we should have access to this.
Starting point is 00:58:44 If you don't want it, don't fucking get it, man. But this is the blunt wedge being forced into America's war on vaccines. And I'm telling you guys that we are just a handful of years away from vaccines themselves, many of them being taken off the market. Get your vaccines now, I'm not fucking kidding either. Like go to the fucking CVS or Walgreens
Starting point is 00:59:11 and load yourself up because there is a high likelihood that some of these things are gonna disappear. I believe that. With all the salad and breadsticks you want, just $9.95. The Olive Garden, when you're here, you're family. I am not afraid of you. Columbia students says of Trump after release from ICE. This is Mobson Maddowee,
Starting point is 00:59:29 I may have mispronounced that, I'm sorry, arrested by ICE following his citizenship interview, Cecil, recently released. Arrested two weeks ago. And this is a student, and they did this with a couple of different people. And they did it because they claimed that they were terrorists. They were like, yeah, they're aligned with terrorist organizations. So they've collected some of these people who were part of these protests against,
Starting point is 00:59:58 you know, that were protesting against Israel on these campuses. And, you know, like, look, here's some people who have ties to those countries that want to express how they feel about the United States using its weaponry to sell and give to other countries to damage people that they would be related to or close to. They have every right to protest that. They have every right in our country to protest that. When they're here, they're family. When they're here, they're part of our country.
Starting point is 01:00:35 They're essentially citizens, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, are they on a visa? Sure, but they have every rights of all of the people that live here and they can show up to a protest. They didn't damage anything. They didn't hurt anybody. They just said some shit that made you feel bad. And then you go out of your way to send like a brute squad
Starting point is 01:00:52 to go after these people and collect them. Like this is a horrifying situation. I'm so happy. Now we're starting to see some of these court decisions come back against Trump where it's like, you know, he's saying, Oh, do this, do this. And as you're seeing some of these court decisions, late night court decisions at the Supreme court, not go his way. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Let's keep that up. Yeah. I think it's worth noting, cause I've seen it in places online. It's really worth noting that the first amendment applies to everybody here. Due process applies to everybody here. Due process applies to everybody here. These are not rights. And I know that like lawyers might email us because I know it's a little more complicated than I am oversimplifying, but these are not rights afforded only
Starting point is 01:01:38 to citizens. You do not have to be a citizen to have a right to due process. You simply need to be here. You do not have to be a citizen to have a right to do process. You simply need to be here. You do not have to be a citizen to have a right that covers the restriction of abridgment of freedom of speech. You just have to be here. So just because these people are not necessarily citizens at the time that they were exercising
Starting point is 01:02:02 these rights does not mean that they don't have rights. They have rights. It is not only citizens in this country that have rights. Everybody here has a right to due process. We all have a right to due process and you want, everybody wants you to have, you, I don't care how right wing crazy you are, you want that to be the case. I promise you want that to be the case because let let's imagine for a moment that that is not the case, because we're living in a world where that is happening. If there is no guaranteed right to due process, because somebody is not a citizen,
Starting point is 01:02:35 but there is no process to determine if someone is a citizen because there is no due process, then that means that you, no matter who you are, does not matter who you are, can be stripped of your rights. You could be deported to fucking El Salvador in prisons tomorrow. And if you don't have a right to due process, how are you supposed to prove that you are a citizen?
Starting point is 01:03:01 The due process is how we make sure that only legal things happen. You have no recourse if we don't go through that system, if we don't go through that process. We are all, like it's not just people who are here, you know, without paperwork that are less safe. We are all inherently less safe. Each individual one of us is inherently less safe.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Due process protects everybody. That's going to wrap it up for this week. We will be back on Thursday with a long form article written by a sad, sad, repentant Republican. You're going to us to correct that. So join us on Thursday for that long form and we'll be back on Monday with another full show, but we're gonna leave you like we always do with the Skeptics Creed.
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