Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 883: Boat Strike War Crimes

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

Costco sues the Trump administration, seeking a refund of tariffs FBI paid nearly $1M in overtime to redact Epstein files, documents show | Snopes.com Epstein Survivors Believe DOJ Is 'Intentionally' ...Exposing Their Names In The Files: Lawyers | HuffPost Latest News Trump said he was 'sharper than I was 25 years ago.' Then he spent an hour appearing to doze off – again | CNN Politics Doctor says Trump had preventative screening MRI on heart, abdomen with 'perfectly normal' results What the law says about killing survivors of a boat strike, according to experts | PBS News Trump says he's canceling all Biden orders that were signed using an autopen - CBS News Trump Launches Into Massive, Unhinged Late Night Posting Spree | HuffPost Latest News Justice Department weighs charging James Comey again, without Lindsey Halligan as main prosecutor Suspect in D.C. shooting of National Guard members pleads not guilty to murder

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissinence is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glory Hole Studios in Chicago and beyond. This is Cognitive Dissanance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We've been critical thinking, skepticism and irreverence.
Starting point is 00:00:53 To any topic that makes the news, makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome at. Today is December 4th. You bust out your Advent calendar, Cecil? Only if it's full of booze. There is a couple years that Heath got us.
Starting point is 00:01:13 He's got us whiskey Advent calendars. Those are pretty dope. Those were awesome. Those are pretty dope. We drank a lot of them live. A lot of them live. And they would come in these little tiny bottle. you give it a taste.
Starting point is 00:01:24 You're like, oh, and there was like all kinds of different types of whiskey in there. Pretty solid. Yeah, there was solid. It was actually a great way
Starting point is 00:01:29 to try things and be like, I love that. I'll buy a bottle and I will avoid that and never spend money on it. Somebody said there's a malort one. Holy shit. Are you serious? Somebody said there's a malort
Starting point is 00:01:39 are you serious? And I'm like, don't tell me there's malort in every drawer because that's disgusting. Are there different flavors of malort? Thanks, son. Can you get like peppermint molort? That's like being like,
Starting point is 00:01:49 is there a different flavor of mop bucket water? No. No. It's like what you mopped up. Yeah, I mean, like one of them might be cherry jelly flavored. Well, don't I put a rosemary spring in it. Why don't you want to drink it? One of them's bathroom urine flavored.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Like, yeah, sure. Okay. Oh, my God. All of it tastes better than Mallort, though. Oh, dude, I would rather drink the mop bucket water from a fucking Greyhound bus station bathroom than Mallort. Maybe that's not true. That's probably not true.
Starting point is 00:02:18 That's really awful. That's probably not true. I mean, like, a lot of Mallort. Yeah. You know, I really enjoyed working for the CIA. Can't wait to move back home and work at fucking Sonic. All right, so this is a big story, NBC News. Suspect in D.C. shooting of National Guard members pleads not guilty to murder.
Starting point is 00:02:37 The gentleman could be seen on a video feed lying in a hospital bed as he made an initial court appearance. So this is a pretty huge story. And I'm curious what your thoughts on this are, Cecil. Yeah, so we, the National Guard has been stationed in Washington. Washington, D.C. for a while. A long while. This point, guys, who went to months?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Months? Yeah. There was two National Guard people standing somewhere. A person came up, shot both of them, was apprehended relatively quickly afterwards. One of them died of their injuries later. Another one that I think is still in serious condition.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I think so, yeah. I'm not even released yet. And this has been over a week old story. So it's a while that has happened. Gravely injured. Very, very injured. Maybe never recovered.
Starting point is 00:03:23 possibly never recover. And this person is an Afghan national. They came here on a sort of program to help people who helped us during the war. And they were processed, started to get their processing at a certain point in the past. It was in, you know, after 2020 some point. And then they just applied for asylum
Starting point is 00:03:49 and they were accepted for asylum during Trump's term. And I think that's really important to remember that they were accepted then. And Trump's cabinet, Trump's administration wants to have no, they don't want any blame for this whatsoever. They want none whatsoever. What they're saying is it's none of the, they were just doing what someone else had done ahead
Starting point is 00:04:09 of them. Well, if that's the case, well, then we can't blame Biden for what happened in Afghanistan because he was just doing what was done ahead of him. Sure. If that's the case, you can't blame Biden for any of that stuff that happened in Afghanistan. But in any case, this person is someone who came here. They're not sure the motive yet. Very initially, of course, it was, this was a leftist, a dangerous leftist, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And all that stuff has died down. Once we've sort of seen who they were working for, how they were working for them, they're part of them, essentially part of our military. Then they sort of changed their whole tune. Now suddenly it's very, very quiet about the whole thing. But really what it did was, it'll allowed the Trump administration to then go after very specific sectors of immigration, asylum, again, sort of tightening the screws on our already heartless policy.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Absolutely. And it's been really, it's been a disgusting display because what it does is it paints everybody in that asylum procedure as somebody who's a possible murderer. Yeah. Because what they do is they paint with a broad brush when one person does something wrong. And that's why that's the problem with, you know, being an immigrant. it's a problem with being a black and brown person in our country is they get picked as something bad happened. It's not like, you know, there isn't a bunch of white people that kill each other
Starting point is 00:05:29 all the time. But then that, but that demographic, that demographic fact never counts. Never counts. Never counts. Never. You're absolutely right. Never counts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple of things that I've read and listened to a lot of stuff about this story. And there's a couple of things that I want to mention. So the first is that this is just my take. but like it seems very clear to me that when we have military troops walking around on display on American soil, what we do to some degree is we create a very desirable target that would not otherwise exist, a desirable political target. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 A desirable military target that would not otherwise be available for people to attack. Right. So what I mean by that is generally speaking, our military is not visible on the streets. They're doing their jobs. They're on bases. They're not sort of on full display. Yeah, they're sequestered away.
Starting point is 00:06:27 How often do you see somebody in uniform? I never see somebody in military uniform. Yeah. So this creates opportunity, first of all. You know, one of the things that happened after 9-11, we went to Afghanistan, is and fucking bin Laden said, this is what you'll do. And then we did it anyway, right? It's like, they came to us.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It's very difficult for somebody far. overseas to attack the United States because we're protected by oceans. Yeah. And then what we do is we then move a whole bunch of people to be closer to them where they can shoot at us. And we make it easier for them to kill us by doing that. It's very difficult when you're protected by an ocean for other people to come get you. When we put our troops on the streets, we are creating targets.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So we are not making those people safer. We are putting those people every day at risk in order to get essentially no benefit. If you think of the whole National Guard thing in a risk benefit calculus, there's no benefit. We're not getting anything out of it as a society. DC isn't any safer. DC isn't changed in any way. And what we've done is we've created a very target-rich environment
Starting point is 00:07:30 for people who might want to do harm to us. So that's stupid. We probably shouldn't do that. From what I've read about the motive of this person, this person was an Afghan national who was working with the CIA. The CIA needs, every time, and this is part of why USAID was so important, anytime that we are in a conflict overseas,
Starting point is 00:07:49 you have to have support on the ground. You need translators, you need people who know the geography, you need people who can put you in contact with, groups who might be sympathetic to your cause. It is essential that that happens. People, I think, who don't understand that, think that you just show up and then you start shooting the right people. And that's not anything.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Anybody who thinks that just doesn't know anything about anything. So this person was somebody who was working with the CIA in a capacity to help. United States in Afghanistan. And what happened, it sounds like, from things that I've read that seem credible and incredible news sources is this person was very, very distressed by the violence that occurred against their country men and women. Because war is fucking distressing.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And we don't do a good job taking care of people after we send them off to commit horrific acts of violence. Yep. And if you were to think about it in a non-military context, like if I just, tomorrow saw somebody get, you know, blown up on the street. Nobody would think that I would be okay. Everybody would be like that. You're probably going to need some fucking therapy, right?
Starting point is 00:08:55 You're probably going to get some PTSD from that. That is, you are going to be changed as a person. We don't think of that as being essentially true for every person involved in a military conflict on any piece of it. When you have a moral culpability to death and to destruction and to harm, there are There are costs. There are mental, emotional, psychological costs that we have to accept that every person involved is going to pay. So this person comes into the United States as having engaged in that process, clearly having taken some damage in that process. But what I read is that they were
Starting point is 00:09:29 radicalized while they were here. And that's a really important detail. Because what Trump is doing is saying, hey, the Biden administration did not do a good job vetting the Afghans who came over here who helped us. So when we pulled out, if we didn't bring those people and they were almost certainly going to be hunted down and killed by the Taliban,
Starting point is 00:09:48 right? So you let them in. But if they were radicalized once they were here, we could not have pre-vetted what hadn't occurred yet. We don't have the minority report. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You can't do that. So that's fucking complete nonsense. If you were to take a step back and look at this, you would say like, hey, what we should not do is engage in armed conflict unless we have an existential threat.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Because every time we do that, we create a target-rich environment, we create people who will be damaged by war because war is damaging to the people who have to commit war and who are the victims of war. We should be extremely cautious about uses of force like this because they are damaging even to the people who help us or who win the war, whatever you want to say.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But like, and then we got to be honest about who we bring in. None of that's happening. All that's happening now is that Trump seizes on something, like this to push forward his xenophobic agenda. It's really gross, man. It's really fucked up. And what we're doing is we're creating an existential threat for a very certain amount of people in our country.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Right? Like you're saying we should only do something when it's an existential threat. It's like if we don't pay attention, then we create the existential threat for the people who are walking on the street down in D.C. That shouldn't even be there. Yeah. To me, the use of military force when it is not absolutely warm, warranted is like it's similar to the idea of like concealed carry, right? Remember when you and I
Starting point is 00:11:20 concealed carry for a minute? Like I can, I got my license, you got your license, for a minute I carried my weapon with me and I knew how much less safe that weapon made me. Right, sure. Anytime we're engaged in any kind of a military conflict that does not have an existential component to it, we're like, well, I have to do this. Ukraine right now is engaged in an existential conflict, right? World War II, clearly an existential... Anytime we are not in that type of a conflict, we're less safe. And we're less safe for years and years and years and years after.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Well, and what they did was they took, like you mentioned already, USAID, if you take that away... Yeah. And then you don't have any of that outreach anymore. Now you're just creating more and more and more ripples to now have more and more conflict in the world. It's just a bad call. They're doing everything they can to maybe create a forever war.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Yeah, yeah. I just, I can't help but look at something like this and realize that all that we are doing is setting up these, all of the foundational building blocks necessary to create a lack of security. Yes. Oh, you're tired and you want to go back to sleep? Yeah, well. This is fucking great. CNN. Trump said he was sharper than I was 25 years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Then he spent an hour appearing to doze off again. This article is so fucking snarky. it's so mean. It's so is. And like, as you read through it, there's so many pieces of it that are unbelievably sorry. So get, if you get a chance,
Starting point is 00:12:52 take a look. I'll put his big, dumb face on there so we can look at his big dumb face. But look at him fucking totally crashed out. He's 100% sleeping. Dude, he's sleeping as fuck. He's a,
Starting point is 00:13:02 I know you, like I grew up my dad when we would have a big meal. Yeah. After it was over, we'd go to the couch and be watching football and he would look exactly like Chipbook.
Starting point is 00:13:12 until the third quarter. It would be a kickoff. And then my dad would fall asleep with a cigarette in his hand. Oh my God. He'd fall asleep. Oh my God. And then he'd wake up when it burned. Die it out.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's a fucking alarm clock. Die it out. And then he'd sit back. And then he'd slowly, just like ever so slowly his eyes are starting to close. You're like, go to sleep. Go to sleep. So this is me when I tell Haley like, I can watch another episode. And she's like very clearly you can.
Starting point is 00:13:42 She's like, you're obviously falling asleep. And I'm like, it's 8 o'clock. I'm exhausted. But what is so interesting is the double standard. Yeah. Because everybody and their brother was talking about how impaired Biden was. Biden was so impaired he's not doing anything. They talked about it incessant.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah. That was literally that. Sleepy Joe Biden. There was so much. And it wasn't just Trump. It was news outlets. We're talking about how fucking his health was declining. His mental acuity was declining.
Starting point is 00:14:12 he's falling asleep, yada, yada, yada. He never had anything like this happen. Never had anything. There was a moment in a climate thing where he kind of dozed, like it looked like he might have dozed off. Again, you know, these guys, I'm okay with younger people being in this office. Sure. So I don't care that, I'm not here to try to defend Biden's honor.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Biden may have fucking dozed off. He was an old guy. Absolutely. 100%. Trump also, an old guy. 100%. He is falling asleep. These are not people that we should consider seriously for the,
Starting point is 00:14:49 what we probably should be the toughest job in America. Yes, 100%. But also remember that he fell asleep during a cabinet meeting. He's done it more than once. And he fell asleep specifically while everybody is going around the room. Talking about how great he is. This is like, imagine falling asleep while you have like a fucking team of people blowing you on TV. All of them look like Marco Rubio.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Fall asleep by the self-defense. Fall asleep by the self-defense. Everybody's going around the room telling me how great I am and I can't even stay awake for that. I can't even stay awake for them to fluff me the entire time. I don't know. If I come, wake me up.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'll tell you, though. It's just one of those things that it just feels like such a double standard. And I recognize that the media can't cover this in the same way that they could cover Biden when something like this would happen to him, mainly because Biden wasn't also lighting everything on fire every second of the day. So there's 20 different stories about Trump
Starting point is 00:15:51 that you could find in a single day. And those 20 different stories, those are all different things that he's decided that he wants to bring up because he wants to get the spotlight off of other things that he's doing. And so there's a million things to talk about. And so this sort of thing gets pushed to the bottom. But really, people should be talking about this more and more
Starting point is 00:16:10 because the more you point out, I think, his, the things that are detriments, right? The more, the more you point those things out, the better off, I think, America is. Yeah. If we can keep pointing them out over and over and over again, because if you can weaken, even just weaken some of these people's ideas of what he is, you'll probably be good because you've got to take the cult leader down eventually. Eventually, the cult leader has to either, you know, maybe his own, maybe his own veins. Cheese burners.
Starting point is 00:16:38 are the things that eventually stop this. But eventually the cult leader has to be stopped. And the cult leader, if he stops himself great, or if you can get him out of office, and the way to do that is to weaken his support enough. And if people think he's weak, people think he's old, people think that's an important. And he recognized that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Like calling Joe Biden. 100%. He recognized that. You can weaponize the failure here against him with the people. And I do think, that we're starting to see a lame duckism begin to creep into this administration. A little bit. Yeah, I think so. The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote, a flute with no holes is not a flute.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And a donut with no hole. It's a Danish. It's a funny guy. This is from the Associated Press. Doctor says Trump had preventative screening MRI on heart and abdomen with perfectly normal results. I love the way they report these all the time, as if Trump told them exactly. what to say. Say it's perfectly normal. Say I aced it. Now, if anyone asked you about my MRI, the answer is man, woman, dog camera. You just look inside and inside his MRI is a man, a woman, a dog, a camera, a TV. Oh, God, that's amazing. A preventative MRI, from what I've read, most people think that there might be something wrong with him, or he's taking some sort of
Starting point is 00:18:08 medication of some kind that would require them to keep an eye on him in certain ways. Yeah, you don't get a checkup. They've tried to, they're trying to paint this as an executive checkup. I never heard of an executive checkup. But I do know that like, you got to pay more at the car wash. You know, I've got a good job. Do I get the good checkup? I will vacuum between the cheats. What are you talking about? Why? You know, we're going to wax it too? I got one of those monthly passes. I can do the, and if it rains, you give me another MRI. hang a fucking Christmas tree on his ear
Starting point is 00:18:39 after he's done. Get the fuck out of here. Executive fucking checkup. It gets, it's like four different colors to soap. And then, yeah, you get that fucking, I got turtle wax.
Starting point is 00:18:49 That was pretty good. I thought I was going to get a bikini wax. I got turtle wax. There's just one guy spinning a buffer on it just the whole time. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:18:56 You don't get a preventative MRI. I've never heard of a fucking, like I'm not a fucking doctor talking guy. I didn't go to upstairs medical college. But I'm fucking 47 years old. And I get a,
Starting point is 00:19:06 check up every year and it never involves a goddamn MRI. Yeah. It's pretty, I would imagine that, that, and like, the thing about an MRI, I don't know a lot about doctoring stuff. And I'm not going to say I know a lot about a doctoring stuff. But someone could correct me too, because maybe there's somebody who reads MRIs or knows about MRIs in our audience. I'd be happy to hear.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But is there just like a general MRI? I always thought it was like a very focused thing. Like, you go in and they're like, hey, we're going to look at your knee. And then they put your knee in there. And then they do the fucking spinny mat, mad. thing and then they come back and they say, oh, well, this portion of this portion is this. Is there just like a, I put your body in a tube and I looked at it? And then I was able to look at all the things I was able to look at.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I thought it was a very targeted type of thing. Yeah, I mean, I've had three MRIs. So I had an MRI from my back, my neck, and my shoulder. Every time I've gotten an MRI, it's because there was a problem and we were looking to see what the problem was to try to figure out how to fix the fucking problem. So, like, that is a true. You don't, like, you typically you would suspect something or want to rule something out or want to find the source of a problem. That's what MRIs do.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's my experience with MRIs. I'm not saying that there isn't a executive level MRI scanner. I got a pretty good job. When I get a checkup, they don't fucking give me a different checkup, bro. Here's your key to the executive washroom. Yeah, I do. Here's your key to the executive MRI. After you take a particularly large shit, you go lay in the brain machine for a few minutes,
Starting point is 00:20:40 see if it took anything, it shouldn't have with it. Oh my God. Perfectly normal. Man woman, dog MRI. It's so funny. It's so funny. And the thing is, like, genuinely, they photographed him yesterday with a big bandage on his hand. He's been trying to hide that forever.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Right? He's been trying to hide that forever. Now he's just literally wearing a bandage on it. Now at this point, he's just like, fuck it. I can't hide it anymore. I'm just going to wear a big day. Well, we see the pictures of his ankles blown up like balloons. He's not in the best of health.
Starting point is 00:21:08 No. He's an older gentleman who happens to have a lot of old stuff that happens to your body as you get older. That's just how the body works. But he's also a guy who very famously believes that your life force is like a battery. And if you work out, you drain the battery. Yeah. That is a real thing, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He has really said that's the reason he doesn't exercise is because he thinks that you have a finite, you're a fucking copper top. Yeah. That you have a fucking duracel amount in there. And if you use it all up, you just, my favorite the other day
Starting point is 00:21:40 that somebody was on his golf course. There was a couple of pictures that came back. One of them, you can't tell because it's a still. So he might have just been moving and closing his eyes, but he 100% looks like he's at a table at his own golf course by himself
Starting point is 00:21:53 with his mouth wide open and his eyes closed going, nah. He looks like he's 100% out. Like he looks like he's 100% out. And the other thing is, I guess that same day, somebody was like videotaping him. And it certainly was a Trump-like figure that was golfing. Probably was Trump. Could be Trump.
Starting point is 00:22:12 He fucking shanked the fuck on that chip. He fucking, he hit it and that fucking thing goes, whoa. I mean, it was like, it was fucking a dog leg. It was like, bwark and just made off this way. He fucking shanked the shit out of it. So I was like, oh, you're not as good as you say you are. I'll tell you a funny golf thing. I am the world's worst golfer.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I golf once a year. or less. If I can get away with it less, I can get away with it less for work. And like off the, I am not good, but I am not abjectly terrible
Starting point is 00:22:40 once you're, once you're past, what's the first thing you? After the drive. After the drive. After the drive. Yeah. So once you start using
Starting point is 00:22:46 not the clubs for driving, the irons. I can knock the thing around and I can finally get it. So you're using irons, you're good with it? I'm okay. Good is strong.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah. But it's not embarrassing. Yeah. But when I go to drive the ball, not one single, time ever in my life have I not hit it into the fucking woods at 6,000 miles an hour. I hit the fuck out of it. I can't bend good so like my, I don't have very good mobility.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So I look like a crazy purse. I have this buddy mine filmed it to tell me what I was doing wrong. I'm like, I can't move my body better than this. I can't fix it. Yeah. Like I can't, I'm not flexible enough to do a full golf swing. So when I hit the ball, every fucking time, Cecil, it goes to the right. Like 86 degree.
Starting point is 00:23:27 If you were standing too close to me, you could get hit. I have gone to Top Golf. Does it still go that way? Yeah, you know what I'll do sometimes at the top? I'll turn my whole body like 75 degrees away. Well, you should do that at the golf course. From what I'm trying to do. Some reason it doesn't work as well at the golf cars.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And it's a little embarrassing. Okay. At Top Golf people are drunk. So I don't really give a shit. Yeah, okay. But like at work. Newsflash, at the golf course, they're also drunk. I wait for him.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I wait for him. See, what I like is Cecil, once you get past a certain end, and everyone's drinking, and then I just stop golfing and nobody notices. Oh, that's perfect. I just drive the car around. See, that's awesome. Smoke a cigar, make jokes. That's what you got to do next time.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And I just stop golfing. What you do next time is tell the guy, be like, hey, man, I'm not going to golf. Why don't you take my swing? Yeah, well, at some point, sometimes they don't even notice you're not golfing. And I'll just put it down a four for me. They don't even notice you.
Starting point is 00:24:12 They don't care. They don't care. Nobody cares. Tell them I'm six over power every hole. Every hole. Just be like, yeah, I'm six over par this hole. I've been telling the kid. You can give up every hole?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Can you? Can you? Forfeit every hole. Oh, I'll forfeit them all right now. I'm forfeiting the next five years with a hole. I just forfeit. Every time be like, yeah, I got to, I forfeit. I declare bankruptcy.
Starting point is 00:24:36 If you're going to prosecute war crimes, you better make sure that more than one man takes the blame for everything. All right, more somber news. PBS. Yikes. What the law says about killing survivors of a boat strike. Oof. According to experts.
Starting point is 00:24:48 So, let me just summarize the experts. Yeah. It's bad. You can't do it. It's real. bad. It's real, real bad. It's like, uh, hold on. War crime, I think is what they said. They said it was a war crime to do that. I don't remember which news podcast I was listening to. So I'm going to say it was either
Starting point is 00:25:06 the Daily Slate, the journal, or Vox, probably one of those four. They were talking about this issue. And the guy that they had on, who was like a JAG officer guy? So the JAG is like the, the judge advocate generals. Those are the law talking guys for the military, right? Good grip on those jags. I got to get them off. There's a whole, they get you off. It is, it is, like, and he said it's literally textbook that you can't do this. It's 100% of war crime.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And when he said his textbook, it's a war crime. It's a war crime. But when he said it's textbook, what he means is that literally in the textbook, the example that is used is about not firing on shipwrecked sailors. What you don't do is that. Yeah. Like, it's everything. but off of the coast of Venezuela at the end of the question.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It's amazingly 100% of war crime. You can't do this. You can't get more war crime than this war crime. It's literally in the definition of war crime. It is the definition of war crime. Yes. And like I read just today that like the admiral who gave the orders is going to testify in a closed hearing of Congress.
Starting point is 00:26:20 But what he's going to say, his position is after the first strike, which you can watch, it's grotesque, but you can watch it because Trump tweeted it out. After the first strike, the two people clinging to flotsam and jetsam in the Caribbean Sea were continuing their aggression
Starting point is 00:26:39 against the United States. They were continuing to try to smuggle drugs. They were injured and clinging to fucking a missile-struck vessel. And he's going to say they continued to pose a threat. What, well, I want people to pay attention to, this is so important, is that we, we learn from Bannon to sort of, what is this, what is wording, flood the zone. Flood the zone is the common, is the way they say it.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And what that means is throw so much shit out there that they can't focus on one thing. Right. And that they have to report it all. And then it all loses meaning. Right. So that's the, that's been the strategy of Trump forever, is flood the zone. I want you to pay attention to the real important. important stuff, though, that is, like, the thing that even, even the, like, some far right
Starting point is 00:27:31 people can't get behind. And some of that is like this. Is this stuff? Yeah. So, and when something like this happens, what Trump will do is have a tweet storm, which we will talk about later. Yeah. He will have, he will say certain things, like he will make a declaration that is absurd. Like, everything Biden did with Autopenn, I will now take back. Right. because you can't use an auto pen. He didn't use an auto pen correctly, and I'm going to take it back. That means has no standing.
Starting point is 00:27:58 He can't do that. It's literally impossible for him to do. But he will say it because he wants to take the heat off of this particular thing. Absolutely. And you can tell when he doesn't want to talk about something is he's admonished and he will immediately push the blame on someone. I didn't do it. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:28:15 You'll have to find somebody else. It's his job to know what happened. Yeah, the buck stops there, man. It's 100% his job. if he didn't know what happened, why is he tweeting it out? Why is he tweeting out a video if you don't know what happened? He has to know what happened. It's his job to know what happened.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's appalling that he doesn't know what happened. And for him to say you have to talk to somebody else is seriously the most cowardly act you could possibly imagine a president to ever have. A president should never say, well, you have to talk to so-and-so. I don't know anything about it. That's somebody who shouldn't be in that job and is a coward. Those are those two things. Those two things are married.
Starting point is 00:28:49 But you've got to pay attention to some of these things that happen. and we can't let them fall away. You can't let them get caught up in the zone. You can't let these things get pushed aside for the next outrage thing. This is one of those things that is, it's a war crime. He's committing war crimes.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Hagsuth is committing war crimes. These people are choosing to do this sort of thing. And after it's all over, when everything, hopefully somehow, we get a cog in the right space and things start to flip back normal, these people need to pay for these things in a serious way.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Like, Heggseth seriously needs to spend some time in jail for doing this. This is a crime that he should have to pay for. Well, and even Hegsef now is trying to say, I didn't know about it. They're trying to, what they're going to do is throw this fucking admiral. Check a signal message. See if you can find it.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Just call the Atlantic report. I'm sure you told this wife about it. Call the Caribbean reporter you put on there, actually. It was not in the right sea. They're going to throw this admiral under the bus is what they're going to do. Of course there. But like, no.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Because like, hey, buddy, you're the fucking secretary of war now. And hey, chuckle fuck, you're the commander in chief. Also, fuck that admiral. Oh, I know. You should 100% be like, eat a fucking giant bag of dicks. I ain't shooting them again. Yeah. Fuck you forever.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah. That's not happening. That's it. That admiral needs to eat shit too. That admiral needs to go to go. Period. If you're willing to fucking double up on that, fuck you. Get out.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And like, let's not lose sight, too, of. the initial strike against that boat. This boat in particular had turned around. It was, first of all, they were never a threat, right? Second of all, there's really no legal justification that anybody can create to make any of this okay. It's a war crime with war crime. That's exactly it, man. All of this is a nightmare wrapped in a nightmare wrapped in a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:30:41 It's like a fucking pans labrower. It's like a fucking, it's a war crime burrito. Yeah, it is. Like 100%. It's all war crimes. Seven-layer fucking war crime debt. It's a war crime fucking blow. Like, it's unbelievable how much they're willing to stack in here.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But you can tell that this is one of those things that they don't want to hear. And they don't want, they want to separate themselves from it. So you can't let them do it. It's amazing what happens when you have people who are this fucking incompetent. That's the real key. That's the real key is, and that's the thing you have to remember is they're both malicious and incompetent. Yep. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And that's the thing is a lot of people, you know, a while back we had sent a message. out. And we had said, hey, when do you leave the United States? When is it a point? Yeah, yeah. When you leave the United States? And I read all the messages that came in. And there was some that came in that said it was already too late. It's already too late. Now, those were mostly from people who are already gone. Right. Like those people are already gone. But like, there was some that people that were planning on leaving. They're like, we're going to leave soon. Other people, I got a couple messages from people that are like, fuck that. I'm not leaving. You know, there was like, there was a range of messages, what I had expected, which was, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:46 there's a range of messages. Some people saying it's way too late. some people saying it was it's not too late now other people saying i'm never leaving and i shouldn't leave a couple people said it was it was uh i saw one person i think i was said that it was selfish to leave and i thought i don't i don't know that i agree with that i think like like people fight the battles that they can fight i don't expect people to fight a battle that they're they're not they're not capable of fighting or that they're not going to help in i don't think that that's a useful thing i struggle with i don't know that i agree with that but i think that there are some there is definitely
Starting point is 00:32:17 like I feel personally like I don't want to go anywhere because I want to make sure that this I'm here and I want to do everything I can to not make sure that this country doesn't fall deeper into authoritarianism. It's already there but I don't want it to fall a deeper
Starting point is 00:32:34 into authoritarianism. But really the Hagseth and Trump are incompetent, right? So they're incompetent. They're also.
Starting point is 00:32:47 malicious. And I think like no matter what, they're never going to stop fucking up and they're never going to stop fucking up in ways that are unbelievably awful. Right. So they're going to always fuck up in these awful ways. But I do think their incompetence is a good thing. I think they're incompetence, even though they're completely incompetent, they could be waging a bigger war than this right now. Yeah. I know. They could be choosing a different target. They could be doing this against other people. They could be doing it to their own people. Right? But they're fuck-ups.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And they can't even do this right. They're absolutely terrible at their job and they're also bad people. And I think that that is going to be combining to create these moments that you hold on to and try to make them pay for and hopefully derail their whole presidency based on this particular action. You could feasibly get rid of him because of this. You could. We should be able to. It would be an impeachable offense under many, many other. Presidency.
Starting point is 00:33:47 If we had the, it would be an impeachable offense if we had a functioning legislative body. Yes. Unfortunately, that's not the case. But, but who knows we might get one, right? There's a possibility to get one. That's possible. 2026. We could have a functioning legislative body.
Starting point is 00:34:00 You saw the latest polls that came back from Tennessee where the person, the special election there, they lost something like 20 points. Yeah. Huge. There was an intense loss. Huge swing. The Republican won, but he won by a tiny margin in comparison to Trump's plus 20 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It was way closer than it had any way to be. Yeah. Yeah. My big boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Every afternoon on your FOS.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This story comes from NBC News. Costco sues the Trump administration seeking a refund of tariffs. The wholesaler is the latest company to sue a federal agency over the president's signature economic policy. Good. I think that there's some companies out there that didn't capitulate. to Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And that are standing up to him. And Costco is one of those places. And I am happy to be a member there. I bought it when I found out that they didn't destroy their DEI policy when they said, no, we're not going to do that. They voted on it. They said, no, we're not going to do it. I was like, that next day, I went to Costco and was like, yep, I'm going to become a member.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Fuck yeah. I was like, yep, I'm going to shop. And I don't shop there all the time because it's actually really hard as a couple. Like Sarah and I are just a couple. It's really hard for us to shop there because, like, when you go there, you buy bulk items. Like the bread is like the size of the cart. You're like, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:20 What am I going to do with that much bread? I got a 55 gallon drum of ketchup, honey. But I will go there and buy the apples that I need. I'll buy a thing that's strawberries. I'll buy their booze. Their booze is good. I'll buy meat from there. I buy meat from there.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So I'll buy eggs is great because Sarah and I go through a lot of eggs. So it's great to buy eggs from there. I buy my oat milk from there. So there's like some things. There's certain staples that I buy there. There's other stuff that I'm. I'm just like, there's no way I'm going to eat 700 cupcakes. Like, how can I, like, even if I wanted to and I want to, I can't eat that many cupcakes.
Starting point is 00:35:54 600 is my limit. There's a certain point. I can't go past six. After six, maybe six hundred and five. I really like, once in a while I'll walk by and be like, oh, I like that hoodie. And I'll grab a hoodie for there. Yeah, they got like clothes and shit. I'm like, that's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm like, I like, I like that. I bought a pair of jogging pants from there that are like thin. I'm like, I like, I like these. See, I got six people in my house. Oh, yeah. I have the problem of like, if I go to Costco. one, that's my whole day now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. And two, that's my mortgage payment now. It's so expensive. Like, it's so expensive. Like, I got six people in the house. I, like, I walk through Costco. I'm like, I might have two carts. I might have a forward cart and a cart and a cart I'm trailing behind me.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It's fucking like a caboose cart. It's like those, uh, the duggers when they go out and there's like 40 carts. Oh my God. Convoy of carts. They have to run through Costco. What are those people drive? Oh, those fucking people are weird. What those people drink?
Starting point is 00:36:43 God, those people are so weird. You can't have so many kids. That you're like, yeah, they don't actually make passenger vehicles for all these people. Like, that's weird, man. You should see the size of their shoe they live in. It's crazy. Is it a small place? Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:36:56 What house do you buy? Hey, do you have a 21 bedroom house? We need a guest room. There are a couple of companies, though, that, like, after everything happened, I stopped going to. Target is one of them. Yeah, I don't go to Target ever again. I have not been back to Target.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I went to, I used to go there all the time. Sarah and I used to go there. you know, if we needed like certain, not food, because we didn't, like household items. But it was almost always any household item I needed. I would admit, the first thing I would think is, let's go to Target. I have not been back since I, the first, this is over a year. Yeah. When I found out last year, they were like, they're canceling some of the policies.
Starting point is 00:37:32 They're like, good. We're awesome. I won't ever go back to you. Never coming back there. And you can tell that it's actually hurt them. They literally went after the demographic that was going to keep them afloat. They went after that. And you're like, other people don't want to shop there.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah. So, like, the Republicans were already going to go to Walmart. They had already beaten you out. Yep. Why would you do that? And they were like, no, we're going to change. It's like, well, you're stupid. You're dumb as hell.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Enjoy being stupid. And look what it's done to their stock price. Yeah, exactly. So it's not done good things for their revenue. It's not done good things for their stock price. Intelligence has been edited, redacted, and reduced. The stories from Snopes. FBI paid nearly $1 million in overtime to redact Epstein files,
Starting point is 00:38:11 according to documents, which is true. Snopes checked us. out. And yeah, they did. They spent a little over $800,000 in overtime alone for people to go through and redact the Epstein files. And now that'll be important for another story that we're going to talk about. But like, I thought about this. It never occurred to me, Cecil, how much work just labor force goes into redaction. Never occurred to me until this article. And then I thought, well, then you've got this whole team of people that knows all the stuff that got redacted. There's just like, there's all these people. Don't they have the original documents too? Yeah. Yeah. So those all exist. So you've got the original documents.
Starting point is 00:38:51 The original documents still exist. Presumably they make copies. Which hopefully they will just release after Trump is out. Unredacted. I hope so too. I hope that the first thing the next person who gets in an office does is says, well, we didn't need to do that. Let's just release this. The only thing we're going to redact is victim information.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. Victim information. That's already been redacted. Although in some cases it hasn't. Not as well as it should have been. Yeah. But in, you know, we're just going to, we're just going to take all these original documents. We're not going to do anything with Trump's name.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And we're going to leave them all in. There you go. Yeah. I hope somebody does that. I do too, man. I hope somebody does that. I do too. I do it.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think, why not do it? Yeah. What's the harm? What's the harm? Here you go. Oh, you guys want true stuff. You can dig into it now. But I, do you picture, I picture like a boiler room of fucking FBI agents and suits with black markers?
Starting point is 00:39:39 And there's just like silent room full of dudes. Yeah. Squeak. I hope in the front there's like one headmaster making sure they work the whole time be fucking amazing Cash Patel and his little jumpsuit in the front
Starting point is 00:39:53 with like a fucking ruler in his hand I because like a lot of things I thought were I don't know there's a bunch of weird shit that occurred to me when I read this I just one again I didn't I guess I just ever thought about the labor that goes into it and then I thought overtime so the FBI is hourly
Starting point is 00:40:09 like you're an hourly employee if you're overtime I never occurred to I guess cops are hourly. Yeah. But then like you're an FBI agent and you're just an hour. I would imagine you would want to be an hourly employee. If you work for any law enforcement because of those weird hours that once in a while you get dropped in and you have to work. It makes all the sense in the world.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It just never occurred to me. Right. Just never even occurred to me. Yeah, you would think they'd be salary. Right. Well, and I guess part of it is like I've never been hourly since I was like a teenager. Like I've not had an hourly job. So it just didn't even just didn't even occur to me.
Starting point is 00:40:42 But then I'm like, oh man, it's got. all these guys like sitting around. And then like, do they have a list of things they're looking for? Because I thought computers would do this. Yeah, you would think that you would be able to just scan these documents and then say, look for Trump. Right. And then it would look for.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Here are keywords that we're looking for. Because otherwise you have to train everybody on what they have to redact. The only thing that I could think is, is that some things are harder for computers to optical text recognition on a computer sometimes. might not catch something. So like if you have a, like, let's say Epstein had an actual type document or somebody printed something out. And then you scanned it.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Sometimes the text isn't as used as readable by the computer, but anything that was created electronically, you should 100% just be able to type in, find Trump. Right. Trump. I wonder if they're looking for like, like, P-Boy or, you know, Golden Shower Man or something like that. Or maybe they have like, is like a little pet name for him. him. He's got to find certain things like that.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah. Oh, maybe. I know like a lot of times when they redact stuff, they'll redact the name, but then they'll leave other stuff where you're like, I know who that is. You're like, I'm fucking, the context clues make this really clear. I know who defended two is. Right. Oh, I'm sorry. What did he say? The guy who texted cheeseburgers. Okay, yeah, I know who that fucking wants. The guy who throws the ketchup. Come on. We know who that is. Yeah. Megan. Megan. Megan. How do you spell vegan? V-E-G-A-N. And that says what?
Starting point is 00:42:14 Vegan. Okay. How do you spell Megan? M-E-G-A-N. So what does that say? Megan. You flipping twit. What?
Starting point is 00:42:22 That is Megan. Megan. All right, anyway. This story is from the Huffington Post. Epstein survivors believe the DOJ is intentionally exposing their names in the files. Quote, this type of negligence by the government to a survivor is just unable to be comprehended. One victim said according to the court filing.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah, you're getting people who they think they're sort of punitively being, their name isn't being redacted. And Trump's name is immaculately being redacted. And we're paying for it in the tune of $800,000 for people to do it. But the victims, the people who were actually harmed by all this, some of their names are just going out when nobody gives a shit. And that shows you, that shows you the incompetence, but also the spitefulness of the Justice Department. And there's no third reading, right? There's no third reading of this when it happens. You are either incompetent or spiteful.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Yeah. That's it. Yeah, what are your other right? There's no other option. Yeah, there is not a third reading. There is no charitable reading of you did not do a good job of redacting victim information. You had a fucking responsibility to redact that. These people remember when these crimes occurred, these were children when these crimes occurred.
Starting point is 00:43:33 They have an absolute right to their privacy. as victims of sex crimes as minors. They have a right to that privacy. And it doesn't matter that they're not children now. And to not shield them from additional harm. Like some of these folks said like immediately there were reporters harassing them in the street in front of their children about being a victim. And it's like there's no third, there's no charitable reading.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's one of these situations where you want to go to like a MAGA supporter and be like, so is it incompetence or maliciousness? Yeah, which one is it? Or float me the third option, Marvin. Did you see Megan Kelly after all this stuff broke and the way she was on her show talking about, is 15 really that young? Do you remember, did you see this?
Starting point is 00:44:20 I did see that. Where they're talking about, 15's not eight. Come on. Yeah, she's like, they're not pedophiles. They just like barely legal teens. And it's like they're not legal. No, that's called pedophilia for a reason. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Somebody who's very, but we're talking about a 50-year-old baby. And a 15 year old. That's a huge difference, man. That's a terrifying huge difference. It is. That's a crime, bro. It is. What the fuck are we talking?
Starting point is 00:44:48 Why are we normalizing that? Why would you defend this ever? Yeah. Like, Megan Kelly's comment was something like, you know, these are teenagers. They're not kids. It's not pedophilia. Some men just like barely legal teens. And it's like, first of all, they weren't legal.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. It's like barely legal. Legal means 18. Barely legal means legal. For years, in fact, since the days of glorious revolution, I had no faith in our future. I forged government announcements and falsified figures quoted for agricultural and industrial. This circumstance. This is canceling all Biden orders that were signed using an auto pen. This is something he can't do.
Starting point is 00:45:28 No. He can't do and it would never stand up. It's like one of those things that he does to try to blow smoke and to flood the zone. Yeah. Now, Trump does have the authority to cancel executive orders. He could do that without saying it as an auto pen. But yeah, exactly. And you can do it for any capricious reason, capricious bullshit reasoning. He wants to.
Starting point is 00:45:49 So the idea that he's canceling all of the autopen orders is intended not to cancel the order because the order is a bad order for America, right? It's intended to say, hey, there was a conspiracy. At the time that Biden was president, he was not the guy in charge. His aides were making decisions. Like, this, no. No, like, Autopenn is a standard way for things to be signed in the 21st century by the president. It's also very specifically, if he can create something here that is throwing dust up to make it seem like Autopen is bad,
Starting point is 00:46:23 then he can go after the people who got pardons with AutoPens that he wants to go after. Yeah, he's trying to throw those pardons away. He can pull those things apart that he wants to do. So he wants to go after. Cheney. Let's just say Liz Cheney. There's a bunch more, but let's just say Liz Cheney. He wants to go after Liz Cheney. He can't. She got preventively, essentially
Starting point is 00:46:42 pardoned for any actions that she did. She didn't do anything, but it was like we pardoned her anyway. It was basically protectively pardoned her for all the time that he would try to go after her. So he can't do it. But it was done according to him with an auto pen. So that means that if he can go after the auto pen
Starting point is 00:46:58 and he can somehow delegitimize the idea of an auto pen, he might be able to chip away at these pardons that are protecting people he really wants to go after and hurt. And that's literally all he's trying to do. He's trying to kick up that dust to make it seem like there's something wrong with an auto pen. There's nothing wrong with it. None of this
Starting point is 00:47:14 would ever stand up in court. At least I hope it wouldn't. Well, the Supreme Court's already weighed in on autopens years ago and they're like, yeah, that's nothing. That's fucking fine. And like at the end of this article, it all says like, Trump's like, yeah, I sometimes use it, but only for unimportant stuff. I'm sorry, man, you're the president. Are you signing a lot of unimportant stuff? Yeah. What do you
Starting point is 00:47:32 talk? Like, are you talking about like signing the fucking terms and conditions for your iPhone with an auto pen? What are you talking about? Sign each Bitcoin. It's not Bitcoin, it's Trump coin. Trump coin. It's Trump coin. Smolania.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Smelania. God, you never hear about Smelania anymore or Melania. What is she up to? You don't hear about Smolania coin either. You know, you don't. No, but they're making billions on crypto. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't seen much about her in the past.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I don't know. I think that they just sort of like, they float in and out. And once in a while you hear about him, but it's pretty rare you get a chance to hear about him and her. There was a moment when they were saying there was that back and forth with Epstein in the email that said that we need to pick at the pictures of Trump blowing Bubba. Yeah, yeah. Where he grabbed her as a way to say, I'm not gay.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I'm a hundred percent heterosexual. This is my heterosexual. sexual wife. This is my normal heterosexual wife. Look at her breasts. Look at all of this heterosexualness. So I think there was a moment where she was back in the camera because he was under fire for potentially giving fallatio to somebody else according to a sex predator. Yeah. I know. Pause real quick and talk like, I know everybody wants to make hay out of these emails and we should look at them. We should read them. But also remember that Jeffrey Epstein by all accounts, contemporary accounts, when he was alive was a manipulative lying piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:49:06 He was a giant fucking liar. You should not read these and be like, oh, there's a true thing. Like, dudes who lie don't say, you can't be like, well, fucking Epstein said it. It's got to be true. Epstein also said I'm not getting fucking sexy massages by kids, right? But he was. So you got to take all that shit with the biggest grain of salt. I feel the same way.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And I feel like when somebody's saying something like that, they're talking between two brothers. Yeah. And it's like, are they talking about that? something that happened. It doesn't seem like it. They even came out because that pretty was saying it was Clinton. Because they were saying Clinton was Baba. But then one of the alive Epstein that's part of that conversation said it wasn't Clinton. So they came out.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Like clarified it wasn't. It wasn't Clinton. It wasn't somebody else. It was somebody just like, I don't look, I'm not going to believe any of that stuff. All that stuff is just, it's essentially anything that Epstein said, I just think you throw it all away. Yeah. Unless there is something in there.
Starting point is 00:50:02 that you can investigate to verify, right? And how you verify it is through money or through other ways in which you can... And then, yes, I'm absolutely down. As long as there's a second way to confirm it. But if it's just Epstein saying something, like, oh my God, what do I... I mean, like, that's nothing.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Jesus. It's nothing. Like, we have to use this as a springboard to discover true facts. So it might point us in the direction of things, you know, where there's a veracity that has to be, you know, claimed here. But like, you don't just...
Starting point is 00:50:32 You just read an email and be like, well, I guess Epstein said it. It's got to be true. I have no friends and I'm an idiot. This story is from Huffington Post. Trump launches into massive, unhinged late night posting spree. See, so this is what you were talking about earlier. 160 posts and reshares in one night. I bet you could count the number of tweets I've ever tweeted and it would be less than 160.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I am, I know for sure it's you. I know for sure you. But I'm thinking because we did do some live tweeting of like election stuff, like debates and stuff. So we might have flooded a little bit there. But yeah. I'm saying personally. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not for the show.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I'm saying personally. Personally, I'm well under 100. I would imagine that on Facebook even, I am under 160 in the last. I would say probably you could probably count my posts as like 160 in. probably four or five years and maybe 160. I don't doubt that a bit. Yeah. I don't doubt that a bit.
Starting point is 00:51:38 A hundred is, like, I'm sorry, but like, are, the leader of the country should not be fucking doom scrolling and fucking tweeting out screeds all night. You should be asleep. You're asleep. Look, dude, I get it. To some degree, I get it, right? As a guy who in his life falls asleep involuntarily sometimes. I get it.
Starting point is 00:52:00 But you could just go to bed. and not tweet out and doom scroll, you fucking weirdo? What are you a teenage girl on TikTok? I also feel like he is somebody who probably should be above all of this. Yes. You should have somebody who's your communication team, not you, who are doing certain things. And he's just in a tweet storm.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It says truth storm, whatever that is. But then all that stuff goes to Twitter. It doesn't matter. Right. Because nobody's on truth. I just want to say like, like, I think anybody else doing this,
Starting point is 00:52:35 and I literally mean anybody else doing this, that would be looked at in a way that people would say, I'm not sure that that's a, imagine if a CEO of a company did that. Well, I'll tell you, like, we don't have to imagine because Elon Musk does this all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And like a huge number of people understand how unhinged Elon Musk is. I don't think, I don't think, I know there's like fucking Musk apologists and Muscovites or whatever, but like, outside of that cadre of bootlicking idiots,
Starting point is 00:53:03 I think people understand like that's fucking weirdo behavior. That's weird and crazy. Right? That's not the behavior of a serious adult who is trying to be the leader of something. You don't just blow your fucking stupid thoughts out into the world just as you have them. Your microphone's too big, man. This to me, though, definitely shows me that there is a method to flooding the zone. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And that method is when something big happens, and something bad happens, flood the zone with whatever you can. And this happens very specifically when he is being accused of these war crimes. And that's when this sort of thing flies up. That's when he's posting all this. And you're like, oh, well, I think there's a reason
Starting point is 00:53:46 why there's a sort of a guilty conscience tweet storm. Well, I think it's a technique like you were saying before. Just throw all the ketchup against the wall and see what sticks. Yeah, yeah. You know? Because if the media seizes on some of that ketchup, up, then all of a sudden their attention got redirected. So, yeah, they're not going to pay attention.
Starting point is 00:54:04 You see you had 160 stupid tweets and reshares and everything else, and the media is going to probably cover a small handful, but maybe one of them is the new thing they sees on. And now that's the thing everybody's talking about. And you've controlled that narrative. And that's enough to get you out of the thing that's your currency. It's pretty smart. Yeah. But it's devastating to our democracy.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It's really not great. No. Yeah. You see, we're putting the cover sheets on all TPS reports now before they go out. This story is from NBC News. Justice Department weighs charging James Comey again without Lindsay Halligan as the main prosecutor. Well, what happened with Lindsay Halligan, Tom? Do you remember this?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, she's not actually a prosecutor. Good. The court was like, that's not how you do this. It was amazing. She totally messed up on a really easy procedural thing. Law talking people can tell you better about it is, but essentially the way the indictment was handed down was incorrect. Right. And the other people were like, hey, yeah, that's really amateur hour shit.
Starting point is 00:55:04 And the judge was like, yeah, you're probably right. Let's just get rid of it. And they got rid of both her and Letitia James. Well, they said, too, that she was improperly appointed. Yeah. So she's not even like, she's appointed as an interim prosecutor. And the judge was like, you're not, you don't really work here. You're not even a temp.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Right. Yeah. So like, just fucking no, you can't do this. Also, the statute of limitations is up. Yeah. So it's debatable, and the courts will figure it out. It's debatable whether there's even an ability to re-indict James Comey because the statute of limitations was like five days from being up when the first
Starting point is 00:55:42 indictment was filed. And the indictment was like, okay, well, indictment figure out what it's about later. Yeah. And the courts even were like, hey, you can't do that. What is any of this? And the reason why they're doing this is very specifically to play Kate Trump. Oh, yeah. They're only doing this.
Starting point is 00:55:57 No serious person would do this. No, serious people literally quit. Yeah, there's not a serious person that would do this. And we know that because not a serious person put their fucking name on this, right? So there's not a serious person at the Justice Department who would bother to do it. What they decided to do was try to placate him. They handed it down. She shouted it out and no one would take it.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Bondi shouted out, somebody needs to do this. And everybody in the room just whistling and looking at the ground the whole time. And then finally somebody who is a sycophant said, I'll do it. And then they said, well, you're not qualified or, and you also don't work here. Right. Pam Bondi's walk around. Puscu just says what? God.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I hope. It is my sincere hope that the people who are at the top of all these things, after this is all over, seriously have to answer for some of the gross abuses of power that I've been doing. I want to see the puppy killer. get her comeuppance after this is all over. I want to see Pam Bondi get some comeuppance. I want to see Pete Huggseth get some comeuppance. RFK Jr.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I want to see him. Yeah, these people need some shit. I want to see these people genuinely have to deal with the consequences of the things that they've done in this administration after it's all over. And I want to see them not protected and I want to see them have to pay a price for some of the severe...
Starting point is 00:57:21 The crimes, essentially the crimes there are committing. Because to go after somebody and to weaponize the justice, Justice Department needs somebody to tell you to do it, but it also needs somebody to follow those orders. And the people who follow those orders need to pay a price after this is all over. And if you picked up the pen to help wield it
Starting point is 00:57:39 against someone else based on the orders of Trump, I want to see you pay for it after all this is over. If we don't do that, it has the same effect of not prosecuting somebody for the war crimes you talked about earlier. Everything has to be, everything has to be, there needs to be an accounting after this is all over. 100%, man.
Starting point is 00:57:54 There needs to be an accounting. And people need to spend some serious time in jail and then need to spend some serious time losing assets and also possibly never ever being involved in public office again. Those are things that genuinely need to happen to these people who have caused this much damage. Because what I don't want to see is Christy Noam, after this is all over, go back to becoming a governor something.
Starting point is 00:58:17 No, I know. I don't want to see that happen. I want to see somebody, you know, maybe lead her into a small pit somewhere. That's what I want to see happen. Because if we, like, if we don't do, that. What we have done is we've uncovered the tools
Starting point is 00:58:31 that we can all use at our choice to destroy our democracy. Somebody needs to pay for all this stuff. And when you inflict damage on all the immigrants in the country and you cause all that kind of, anybody who died in your custody because of your neglect, that shit should roll uphill to you. A billion percent. It should roll up hill.
Starting point is 00:58:47 So if somebody died or we hurt somebody in those ways that they've been causing this distress with immigration, every single one of those charges need to work our way up to her. And it needs to be her who's paying for it after this is all over. So that the next guy is scared to do it. So the next person is like, well, we better, we better dot every eye.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, let's actually follow the fucking law. All right, that's going to wrap it up for this week. We'll back with a funny show on Thursday. We're going to leave you like we always do with the skeptics creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-babelon bullshit.
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