Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 889: Welcome to 2026

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

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makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome at. Today is Friday, January the 2nd, 2026, Cecil. Happy New Year, my friend. Happy New Year, Tom.

Hey, do you have any predictions for this upcoming year? It's going to be a shit show. Oh, brother. I look, 2025, not the best. Sure. I will say, I don't think anybody is like looking back at 2025 and saying like, man, that was a good time. Very few people.

Yeah, no, fucking glad to see the back of 2025. I am glad to see the fucking back of 2025. 2026, I don't know, man, like politically speaking, I am hopeful that maybe the Democrats will get their shit together. We'll talk about it. You know, there's some stories about it in the show. maybe we can actually get some work done to have an even less productive Congress, a more cock-blocking Congress? Yeah.

Like I think that'd be the best case scenario there. I am curious, though, Cecil, do you do New Year's resolutions? I don't. I don't either. Have you ever done a New Year's resolution? No, I think just like I don't pay attention to time that way. I don't look at time like that. I'm not like, I'm going to wait until this moment to do the thing.

I'm like, if I feel like I need to do a thing, I should just. just do it. Like, I shouldn't be like, well, I'll put it off until the next year. I mean, I am like, I'm a sucker. So, like, I am a big sucker for like, forced opportunities for reflection. Like, I have always been that. Like, I'll look at a holiday, but it is an opportunity to reflect. I should take that opportunity. But New Year's has never been it. Like, New Year's has never been it for me. I've never been like, you know what, I'm going to get in shape. It's like, look, either I'm going to do that or I'm not. Yeah, you got to do it when you say it. If you say it out loud, you should do it that moment is where you should do it.

I've never been like a tomorrow's a good day for that. Like if tomorrow's a good day for it, it's not heck it. It's not fucking happening. I think the reason why a lot of people do that in shape right after the holidays is because the holidays just offer so much food that there's just like this moment where you're like, if I do it now, if I start on like the 12th of December, I'm going to just ruin my shit for the next three weeks because there's always cookies in the house. There's always fucking bear week over here.

Yeah, dude, it's fucking A. man. It's like, I'm fucking, dude, I'll eat a fat bear. I'll eat the whole thing. I'll eat the whole thing. If you serve that, do you dip that thing in chocolate and rolled it in powdered sugar? That motherfucker. That thing is, no, it is in my belly. Are you kidding me? So yeah, I think that's why a lot of people do it around the holidays because they're like, I don't want to fucking, I don't want to miss ham on New Year's or whatever. And so that they just get on the treadmill day two. I strongly suspect that I have like really unhealthy habits around like body image and food. Because I do weigh myself. almost every day. But like, not in December. I don't. I was like, I got up this morning and I was like, I should get back on the scale. And I was like, I should get back down to the gym at least two or three days first. I'm going to go to the gym first. I was like, no, I don't feel like that's a good thing for me. What about predictions? Do you have any predictions for 26? Yes, I think, you know, country wise, I am going to predict that we will have boots on the ground military in another country this year. I think we are going to have,

I think it could be Venezuela, but it could be somewhere else, right? It doesn't necessarily have to be there. But I think, I think boots on the ground military action, not like a welcome in sort of action, not, not, oh, we need help with this. Come help us. I'm thinking more. Does it count if it's domestic? Because I'm a little worried about that, too. I mean, domestics already have. So we can't like, you know, like, more domestic. That's not a prediction. You know what I mean?

That's a, right. Yeah. That's a, if you weren't paying attention to the news, it's a prediction. Right. But if you are,

then it's not a prediction. So I think, I genuinely think, though, and the thing is, is like, we are boots on the ground in other countries. I'm just saying as an act of aggression. I think there will be an act of aggrave, a military act of aggression.

That's my guess. And predictions are shit, like literally worthless, right? Nobody fucking knows anything. It's always just a crapshoot. But I do think there are, you know, if you shook that magic eight ball today, signs point to yes. You know what I mean? Where you're starting to see more and more of this.

And I also think when you get an alcoholic who literally renames the entire thing, the fucking department of war, because he's got such a war boner, he can't control himself. I think that's also another reason why there's going to be more aggression in that department just because this guy can't control himself. Yeah, I don't disagree with, I don't disagree with that. at all. I also think it's an opportunity for for Trump to do what he's seen many other presidents do in the past, which is when he's backed into a corner, if he becomes a military president, that he gets a lot more support from people who are.

Automatically, yeah. Automatically. So I think that's like a, you know, we certainly saw it with George W. Bush. George W. Bush was not a functional and popular president. Oh, he was trashed before 9-11. Yeah. And then 9-11 happened and all of a sudden he sailed into his second term because America was like, oh, like, we got it. We're not getting rid of a wartime president. And I do worry, you know, that Trump will use war to, if not, I have been thinking about this. I'm glad you brought up the war thing because I was wondering, you know, Trump cannot run for a

third term. And I know that like the Constitution has strict safeguards, but I'm also like, yeah, fucking Clarence Thomas doesn't give a shit about fuck. So I do wonder if in the event. of a major war rather than run for a third term if there will not be a way to simply extend the length of the second term.

Yeah. You know, just be like, oh, yes, isn't a good, it's really isn't a good time to have a democracy, guys. We're going to press pause on the whole democracy because that's what a lot of tin pot dictators and autocrats in the past have done. Yeah. What they've done is they've just extended

the length of their existing term. So I'm like, Can we? Yeah. And if you get into a real conflict, a real conflict, I think a lot of people would be like, well,

we can't right now. You know, and have a change of leadership in wartime. And if you're the, you're the one who's sort of pushing for that, you can sort of stack the deck

in your favor. So it's a, that's a huge negative. The huge positive is, is the huge positive numbers that are his age. Like, that's the thing. Right.

Yeah. The huge positive is 80, you know, 81, 82, that's how old he's going to be when he finally finishes up his term. Well, but he's getting executive checkups with MRIs. Yeah, I mean, all you need is executive checkup. And they zap him with the life extension technology. Dude, I was watching, Haley and I, like, we almost never watch any actual tell. We don't have, like, a cable service.

Yeah, yeah. But, like, now, like, with your TV, with your smart TV, you can watch certain, like, channels that have built-in commercials and stuff. Yeah, sure. Built-in one. we were watching something the other day that had these commercials, which we almost never see commercials because we're just Netflix and Hulu and whatever people.

And we saw this commercial for basically, it's like, go get an MRI of your whole body and pay for it. And then if we find anything, you could take it to your doctor. And I was like, I immediately thought of Trump. Yeah. It's a preventative MRI.

MRI, yeah. It's like, oh, you can get the, everybody now has access to the executive bathroom. Like, it's just like an executive bathroom key. Aren't there, aren't there, Hulu commercials? Not if you pay $8 extra or something.

Oh, okay, you gotta pay extra. I don't do that. You pay like, like, dude, I'll pay fucking infinite money to avoid a commercial. I didn't realize there was an extra.

I didn't realize that could avoid it. Yeah, if you pay like a couple extra bucks a month more than you don't have any commercials. I get commercials on there all the time. I'm like, god damn

this is a fucking pain you. Like, what are you doing, man? I literally, I can't do commercials. I can't do them. Like, they make my, they make my skin crawl now. It sucks so bad. Because you're in the middle

something and you're like, I'm watching this. I can't believe for our entire life we had to deal with that. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. And I'm going to be fucking old man yells at Cloud some more, but like, whatever, the commercials now are worse. They're low quality because they know that not as many people are watching them. There's no reason to invest in it. Yeah. When we were kids, like commercials were these big fucking productions, big ad companies, they were big productions. They were actually part of the cultural zeitgeist. These commercials were like, we remember certain commercials growing up. Like, you remember, You remember the Cindy Crawford Pepsi commercials? Yeah.

Like everybody remembers certain commercials, like built into your... But now the commercials are like ultra-shitty, super low quality, like really bad. Like, I went and got insurance, you should too. It's over. And that's the commercial where it's like, hey, this medicine has got a lot of side effects. Most of the commercials just going to name them. And then here's somebody running in a field. We got the micromachines guy to name them.

it could cause it sounds like he's talking in tongues. You're like, come on, there's not that many side of it. I fucking love that shit because it'll be like, this medicine may cause bleeding from the anus,

explosive face syndrome. Like all this like horrible shit. And then it'll stop and be like, and if you want your life back, try fucking hoojima or whatever. And it has a crazy name because every medicine has a crazy sounding names. And they're always spelled Nordically.

I don't know why that is. My favorite. It has like a vestigial Jay in it for some reason. What the fuck is that? Dude, my favorite is the warning like, don't take this if you're allergic to it. And it's like, well, no, what do you got to fucking say that?

What? Like, can you imagine somebody's like, I knew I was allergic to it, but nobody said not to take the thing I was allergic to? There's somebody like snorting a fucking cat out there right now. I got a kitten stuck up my nose. Also, there's like, there's not an in a small. number of these will, they'll say, if you have thoughts of suicide, stop taking immediately.

You're like, what are the sweet fuck am I taking? Oh, man. And it'll be a medicine for like athletes foot or some shit. Jesus Christ. It's not even like a psychiatric med and it's like, and you know, some studies show that you'll kill yourself if you try this. But like, not a lot of you. And you're like, what are you talking about?

I just took Mucinx. I just wanted to breathe for the evening. I didn't want to kill myself. What the fuck? That like fanasteride, that shit like to make you grow your hair. There's like I read like there's like for some people, I know for some people works fine. But like I read this whole Wall Street Journal article. Like there's like a not small cohort of people that it like ruins their lives.

It just completely ruins their lives. Psychiatric side effects that never go away. Sexual side effects that don't go away. And you're just like, man, that's your hair. Right? Like, it's not like it's, look, I'll run some risks if I'm like, okay, I've got exploding heart syndrome and I'm going to die if I don't take this. Like, there's a risk benefit calculus here, but like for some stuff, it's like, like, I don't like a vanity medicine.

It's like, you might kill yourself. I'll give it a whirl. It's like if you got a facelift, you also have to play Russian roulette. Yeah, man. It's up, dude. No, I wouldn't get it then. Up yours, woke moralists. We'll see who cancels who.

All right, this story comes from the independent. This is good news. Gen Z men are moving away from Maga in droves. According to polls, economic concerns, a growing disenchantment with both parties, is draining support for Trump among Gen Z young men, a key block of support during the 2024 election. I have some thoughts about this, Cecil.

What do you think about this? I feel like this very particularly to me shows, one, we don't have a lot of political literacy in this country to understand great political ideas, even small political ideas. I think that there's not enough political literacy for us to as voters be as informed as we should be when we're looking for things that would maybe help us and other people. But I also think that this points to something that we said, gosh, right after the election. And this was something that we sort of, I think, talked about relatively quickly, which was while the Democrats made a bunch of missteps, they did a bunch of things that were wrong. And they did a bunch of, they pushed through things that they shouldn't have. They made some decisions based on running people that they probably shouldn't have. They stuck with certain things that they definitely shouldn't have stuck with.

I think that Kamala Harris should have separated herself from Joe Biden's policies much more vociferously, especially the unpopular ones that were there definitely should have done that. I think both sides in many ways are culpable when it comes to our foreign policy, especially when it comes to Gaza. So I think there's a lot of real problems with our political structure in general. But I also think that there is a bunch of people in the... the United States that is looking towards the politics to fix problems and they're shutting the switch off and turning it back on just trying to reboot the machine. And this to me sort of says

they're at the point to do it again, which is what we had thought might happen, right? Is that these problems aren't going to get fixed. There's going to be a group of people in this country that see this and say there's a bunch of populist issues, economic issues, etc, that are not going to be fixed by this, and they're going to go and flip that switch afterwards again. And so I think that this sort of plays into the idea, not so much that Gen Z is rejecting MAGA in the sense that I don't think they care as much. I think what they want is they want several problems fixed.

And the first person to fix those problems is going to capture them. Just that I don't think there's a lot of people in government that are willing to fix the problems that they have, which are very economic-based. Yeah, I agree with all of that. And I immediately, when I read this, I immediately thought of your flipping the switch analogy. I immediately was like, yeah, that's probably true. Like, people are just walking around toggling shit, like in a desperate attempt to like, because we don't know what it's, it is. It is a great example. We don't know how anything works.

We just know that sometimes if you turn it off and turn it back on again, it might work. We're not sure why, but let's give it a whirl. But I also want to float a couple of ideas past you because I do think that there's this like broader, I have a broader philosophical concern that we are living in a moment where young people specifically are sort of living without a sense of cohesive and communal connection and purpose. and sort of common philosophy that is sort of new. And what I mean by that is that, like,

I think that in times past, and times past not being all that long ago, there was sort of a broader sense of who we were collectively as a nation, as a people, as a culture. We had differences, stark differences, major differences, for sure. But I think that, like,

we've moved into a space where we're living ironically and nihilistically, and that, like, people are feeling less connected, more lonely, less purpose-driven in terms of, like, their connection to other people, to their community, et cetera. And I think that, like, part of what has happened is people voted based on that, right? Like, the Republican Party, really, I think, and J.D. Vance is a great example. Like, look at the way he tweets.

Look at the, like, the flippancy of this sort of, like, and their sort of like troll culture policies. I think that that really appealed to a lot of people because it was fun and it was funny. And it was like, yeah, fucking like, let's do it, man. Like this matches the vibe, right? This like this connects to the vibe. But none of that, that lack of seriousness doesn't solve problems. It causes a lot of problems.

It breaks a lot of stuff. And I think that there's been people who are like, wait, we kind of thought this was going to be fun and funny. and like now we're like understanding like the danger of living nihilistically or ironically or like let's just break shit and like tear it down and rebuild it and like all that stuff sounds revolutionary and kind of cool and like makes for a fine meme but none of that stuff actually solves anybody's day to day problems and it will only exacerbate them and I wonder if people are waking up to the dangers of a troll based political philosophy does that make any sense at all yeah that That makes a lot of sense.

And I also wonder, too, because you've mentioned this multiple times about a shared narrative that we used to share, right? The evening news is one of the examples you've used in the past is that there's no such thing as an evening news like we knew it when we were growing up. And evening news for us was Tom Brokaw. He would get on or whoever was before him, Ted Cople, et cetera. These people would come on and they would have a very specific show that was a world news show. was like an hour long, and it was on a very specific channel. I think it was ABC. And it was on every single day of the week.

And there was this sort of common narrative that was spread across the country and across the world. There was five or six major newspapers and all those newspapers had a very specific set of stories that they covered. Editorial deaths in that time were very powerful. Now, we don't have as many editorial desks. What we have is just a flood of information. And then we get to pick and choose and curate those feeds based on what information

we want to see. And that's a very different world to live in. So we don't have that common shared narrative. So I wonder if that plays into the thing that you're talking about here where, you know, we just don't have, they're thinking it's a trolling thing, but really there's just no way to connect any of us together to sort of make a cohesive movement to do, to create a political structure and have political will that could help a greater number of people because everybody's so individual nowadays.

Yeah, I think. There's a real appeal to, and I'm guilty of it as well, there's a real appeal to, but there's also a real danger to this sort of like algorithmically bespoke culture that we've created for ourselves. Because it is so individuated, it is also necessarily isolating. And I think that that, you know, I think of like, if you take a step back, if you don't, if you kind of like don't buy the argument, like, take a step back and think about music. I think music is a good example. when we were growing up, let's say the 90s, even the early 2000s, right? You listened to a handful of radio stations, right? Oh, I listened to the country station.

Well, there's two out here in Chicago. There were two major country stations. You might listen to the rock station. Okay, well, you had your alternative rock station, your classic rock station, and then you're like, what we called out here, like a hard rock station, which kind of played like a mix of different thing. But you listened to, there was like a limited. number of choices and everybody kind of like understood what the popular music was of the time.

And you like maybe you selected a genre, maybe you bounced between like the pop music or dance station and the rock station or whatever. But we were sharing broadly this same experience. We knew who the DJs were. The music was curated by a certain group, oftentimes by big labels. There were big problems with it. I'm not saying that this was always better, right? but like we you would come together remember like as young people you'd be one of the first questions you'd find out is young like what kind of music do you listen to that question doesn't even really make sense for people anymore because every all of your music is now individually curated and algorithmically curated and like we aren't sharing like a radio station we're not sharing a world

anymore that like we connect and bond together and form communities around the lack of all of those things I think is aggregative. It is not, and not aggrative in a positive way. I think aggrative in a way that contributes to that loneliness epidemic that we're experiencing. And the loneliness epidemic is real.

Like people are, like, it doesn't really matter anymore what age group you fall into, for the most part, people are experiencing more rather than less loneliness, less communal activity, less communal connection.

And I think our media used to be a point that we would bond over. Like I said, hey, what music do you listen to? That was a legit question. The question kind of doesn't make sense anymore.

When I think of the music I listen to, it's like, yeah, I listen to my Spotify recommendations or the things I specifically chose and sourced and picked. And like, what I listened to this week,

Cecil, is going to be so different than what you listen to this week. But when we were 25, it wasn't. No. You know? It was shared. Yeah.

Yeah, it's really interesting. So we have so many less shared experiences like that. And I wonder if, that's kind of pulling us apart and makes us easy pickings, I'll tell you what, if I was a, if I was a foreign actor in Russia or China, and I was in a more collectivist culture, I would see the individualism culture of America as a major weak point that I could drive wedges into. Sure, sure.

I wonder to, you know, you mentioned the sort of politics of trolling. I wonder how many of these people. And I don't know what the number is, right? I don't know, but I know that there is a group of people out there now that are upset very specifically with how certain portions of the government are acting, even though everybody who was watching knew exactly what they were going to do when they took office, right? So we knew that they were going to do a bunch of these things. And we said it out loud, they haven't had a plan that they went up. It's not like they didn't write up a plan that they gave to us ahead of time. But what I think is interesting is that, I know there are people, especially in this group cohort, that dislike how, let's just pick something like how Homeland Security is acting, how they're going out and capturing people and deporting people and sometimes capturing the wrong people and sometimes capturing people who've been for a long time that have done nothing except for, you know, just live here and follow all the rules, et cetera, et cetera. And there's a lot of pushback, I think, ethically, people are upset with how

that's going. And I wonder if this is the moment where people realize that trolling does have real consequences in the world, where when you decide to pick somebody who's going to be a troll, that they're not going to have the best interest of everybody at heart, and that breaking things sometimes isn't as fun as it sounds. Yeah. Yeah. Like treating our government like a fucking rage room, you know, is a bad call. Marjorie Taylor Green, to me, is the perfect example of somebody who is suddenly stunned by the inevitable consequences of our own fucking actions. Marjorie Taylor Green is out on a fucking nationwide press tour basically apologizing and saying like, hey, you know what?

Like I was a part of this like crazy radicalization culture that like we created and maintained and cultivated and amplified. And it turns out that that didn't accomplish the things I wanted it to accomplish. so now I'm fucking sad about it and nobody should feel sorry for Marjorie Taylor Green. But it is, she is a really interesting,

I've been following it so closely. She's a really interesting example to me of somebody who's like, wow, that was a bad idea. And it's like, yeah, literally everybody who had any thoughts. Everybody knew it. Fucking knew it, man.

Everybody knew it, man. Everybody knew it was a bad idea. The only thing who didn't. And then I think even people on the other side knew was a bad idea. They just were happy for it. They were, they wanted the lulls, you know?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, like, if your goal of politics is not to serve people, but to troll people? Yeah. Like, what the fuck? So, yeah, I'm glad to see these Gen Z dudes,

like, fucking come on over. We'll see what happens. I'm going to read a part of this, just so people know what their, what their stances are. It says, young Americans are sending a clear message that the systems and institutions

meant to support them no longer feel stable, fair, or responsive to this generation. This is a quote from a person who's a polling director at Harvard Institute of Politics. It says their trust in democracy, the economy,

and even each other is fraying, not because they are disengaged, but because they feel unheard and unprotected in a moment of profound uncertainty. This should be what the Democrats cut out and put on their wall

and say, how do I fix that? How do I fix that? that because this isn't this isn't gen z this isn't this isn't just gen z this is everybody this is every single american if you could distill what what the things that you've lost as a group the politicians the things that you've lost as a group and the things that make it so every day people uh recognize and think that you are doing things only to enrich you or your friends and not anyone else this is the thing right this is it cut this out hang this tweet on your

wall or whatever, and then never, ever, ever stop looking at it. You know, this is the thing that Homer has over his desk with a picture of the fucking daughters or whatever. You know, it's like, that's what you need. You've got to have it. You've got to stare at it every day because this is how you're going to win. If you're going to win next time, if you're going to sweep anything, if you're going to do any of that stuff, you've got to address this because this is not a Gen Z problem. This is an America problem. Yeah. I couldn't agree with that more. I would just yes that by saying, we pretend a lot that we don't know what motivates people, but yes, we do. What motivates people is like their sense of alienation and disaffection and disconnection to an

ability to get ahead, provide for themselves, and provide for their families. If people don't feel like they have those basic opportunities, then they burn the system down. Yeah. Like they got the fucking, that's when the guillotine's come out, man. Yeah. He can't keep getting away with it. He can't keep getting away with it. All right, this next story is from the New Republic.

The worst thing about Elon Musk is that he got away with all of it. His reign of terror didn't end after he bought the 2024 election. There's a fucking awesome picture that is associated. If you guys get a chance, there is a picture of Elon Musk sweating from like every pore and pores newly created in what appears to be a laboratory wearing a fucking ex-armband, reminiscent, reminiscent in a fucking laboratory and drooling as he, you know, fucking concoct some brave new world shit. It looks like he's got a colon and a brain he's sticking his fingers in.

He's got electrodes on it. It's kind of crazy. It is fucking, it is nuts. This article is very much what it sounds like. You know, Elon Musk fucking got away with it. And it's, it's kind of unreal. I really did, I'm a fool and I'm an optimist in my, in my dark secret heart, Cecil. So I guess I thought that there would be some comeuppance.

I really thought like, oh, well, you know what this is going to fucking tank Tesla. Who the fuck's going to buy a Tesla now? And Tesla's doing fine. Tesla sold like a record number of model fucking Y's or whatever last quarter. I just read something about it yesterday. Like, SpaceX is making, you know, $80 trillion a second or something on government. fucking contracts and nonsense. Yeah, and he went in and tore out all the regulations on anything he wanted to.

So, he just fucking got away with the whole thing. He paid $250 million, $250 million, so he could roll into the government and make billions. I mean, this is a great return on investment. It's a wonderful return on investment. Suddenly you get all kinds of government contracts. You get to pull out any kind of regulation. You get to make it look. The other thing, too, that these guys do, they have a very specific plan.

All these rich billioners, they all say the same thing. And I have been introduced to many rich billioners listening to them on Joe Rogan for the other show I do, the no Rogan experience. So I do this other show. It's a whole show where I have to listen to Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan is constantly entertaining billionaires on his platform. They come on and they have a conversation with him. And every single one of these billionaires tries to do the same thing. They try to deregulate the government so they can make more money.

And they try to make it so the tax dollars that you spend, they try to convince you of this. any tax dollars you spend are essentially wasted. Nylon must did this an entire episode where he talked about homelessness in San Francisco and other places. He made it seem like all the money. And Joe does, Joe just parrots this constantly tells you they spent all these billions of dollars

and they're still homeless people is what he'll say. And so he's basically saying that money's wasted. You shouldn't, we shouldn't be spending that money on homeless people at all. Instead, that money should just what? what's the next thing? And the next thing is

it should just go back in the billionaire's pockets and we shouldn't trace them down for taxes. That's what we've been doing. Mark Andreessen came on and said we need to basically gut the consumer financial

protection bureau. This is the thing that you, that protects you, the person out there, from him. And he's like, no, man, get rid of that thing.

You don't need it. It's Elizabeth Warren's pet project and we should get rid of it. And Joe's like, wow, man. And then all of these dumb-ass listeners think

it's the government trying to pull one over on you when it's literally the protections that you have against people like Mark Andreessen and others. They do this all the time. They try to convince you. Government is bad. We shouldn't be paying for government. All government spending is waste.

They try to do this over and over and over again and they have a big mouthpiece so it gets in the zeit guys. Everybody hears about it. Look at what they did. He literally went in to take down USAID so he could convince you how badly this money was being spent. And Joe Rogan for the last year has never shut up about how much money we were wasting

billions of dollars we were wasting on USAID. He hasn't shut up about it. They want to discredit all kinds of government and they're doing it constantly. And Elon Musk foray into government was literally with that goal. Yeah. The Elon Musk and the CFPB is such a good example to me

because if you walk around, it's just like fucking the Affordable Care Act, which we did get an admonishment from a listener not to call it Obamacare. And I don't agree with that. I think we should give credit where credit is due. I know it's become a pejorative, but like I think we can take that back. I think we should take it back.

But like it's a lot like the Affordable Care Act. If you walk around and tell people, hey, here's the things that the CFPB, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau does. Everybody that buys anything ever is 100% in favor of it, right? The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau came about as a direct response. to the 2008 financial crisis that devastated the global economy. And some very smart people got in a room and they said, we should not let that happen again.

Maybe there should be some regulations that help to prevent that. And maybe consumers shouldn't be the ones who eat shit when all this stuff happens. What should we do? And they put some rules in place. And those rules have not destroyed the country, right? They have not. These guys always talk like these regulations are killing business. I don't know, man.

That's not what I see. I look at like they're constantly talking about how all these regulations, oh, they're going to kill the banking industry. The banking industry is doing very well, thank you. Yeah. Like Chase is not out of business. Bank of America's doing just fine. Like that is not.

And if you look at the banks, like some of the regional banks, like Silicon Valley Bank, that did fold, it didn't fold because of regulation. It didn't get overregulated and then it got crushed. It made bad, high risk decisions. that burned that bank. That's why that bank folded. So we look at this stuff and we're like, well, we should probably strip this stuff.

You think the fucking billionaires who were in charge of the system, the financial system, have your best interest at heart? Do you really think that that's the case? But he literally bought, like you said, he's got the biggest mouthpiece. He bought it.

He bought the mouthpiece. It's so crazy because there's just so many reasons not to trust this. and everybody is like, well, I mean, it makes a lot of sense what he's saying. It makes no sense what he's saying. None of the things he says make any sense. Why would you think this guy has anybody's best interest at heart but his own? It only has his own best interest at heart.

And every single action that he's undertaken has been self-interested only, only. Only. What are you guys? Hey, everybody, what are you getting out of SpaceX? What are you getting out of him having essentially a monopoly on defense department contracts to put defense satellites and other satellites into orbit? Like consolidating all of that into one private company. What are you getting out of that as a private citizen? Are you on Mars?

Right? Are you getting fucking jerked off by a Venusian right now? What is how is your life changed for the better? Like nobody can answer that question ever. But they're just like, I don't know, man, he's really an innovator. Like, an innovator for what? For what? Electric cars we fucking took all the subsidies away from?

Get the fuck out of here. What is happening? Totinos, Totinos. Start the music ride. Totinos. How did you know? Totinos. Because everybody's talking about tootinos, dotinos, hot pizza rolls and not burritos.

Thank you. Feminine. This is fucking wild, Cecil, in part because of where it comes from. This comes from reason.com. Reason is an aggressively right-wing source. It's a libertarian source, and they have been for years. Yeah. Could the feds throw you in jail for merely filming ICE immigration raids?

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said videotaping agents was violence, but Border Patrol brought a film crew to Chicago area raids. It's so funny that they're like, you can't do this, but we will do this. We will instead. They're saying that filming them, following them, and then possibly filming them to docks them

is the real issue. That's the real problem. And you're like, dude, you're filming these people. You're following them around. You're doing all the things that you're saying

are very specifically putting them in danger. You're doing it and then producing it with a fucking soundtrack. Get the fuck out of here. I know, man. They make him fucking music videos. Yeah, they're making music videos that people tell them, don't use my music or don't use my

likeness or don't use my statement. All these people have to come out and say this stuff because genuinely the fucking the ISIS, they are still trolling, right? Like we're talking about in the first story, they're still doing it. They're still doing the trolling. They're like, ha, ha, ha, look at these people. We're marching them out of the country. Look at what we're doing.

And there are a group of people out there who are very happy for this. But I think there's a growing number of people who are disgusted by it. And the thing is that none of this stuff, this is where you have to take the libertarian by his lapels and you have to shake them like a baby. You have to just shake and shake and shake and shake because they probably voted for this. I mean, if you were to take these two candidates and put them side by side, they 100% voted for their economic stuff and didn't give a fuck about any of the social stuff. The problem is the social stuff is so abhorrent, even to people on the right that it's just, it's just disgusting to them. We are in a situation now where there's so many leopards, or there's so many faces, there's just not enough leopards to eat. They're wandering around being like, I'm so full.

I can barely roll to the next face. I can't even stand up anymore. My legs can't support my giant weight. I have to be wheeled face to face. Those fucking, it's like the fat squirrels when the cicadas come out, you know? They're just like, yeah. They're just laying there and they reach over, grab one and eat it. It's like me and Totina's pizza rolls.

God, fucking. I hate pizza rolls. Don't send me a message. There goes. Pizza rolls, I would eat them. I don't. I would not eat pizza rolls. Here's the thing.

They're not good. I'll eat like a hundred of them. You know what I will? though. A hundred. You know what I will eat, Tom? What's that? I will eat a pizza puff. Dude, I was, I literally just read a whole, like, or Haley actually read it to me, a whole article about the pizza puff. I had no idea it was a hyper-regional food. It's not just Chicago. It's not just like Chicago area. It's Chicago only. They don't really exist in the suburbs in the same way. That's amazing, dude. Yeah, I get them out here sometimes. You can get them. But like, they're not as ubiquitous. They're like, I was growing up in Chicago. Yeah, when I was growing up in Chicago,

I never thought about the pizza puff as being a local, regional thing. And like, yeah, I was just thinking the other day, like unless I go to a really specific kind of place, like, Chicago you can get them fucking anywhere. Like, when you're in the birbs, you got to go to a very specific kind of like hot dog stand type place. Yeah, it's got to be like in a beef stand or whatever you get one. And then you can get a pizza puff.

And if you leave Chicago land, you're not getting a fucking pizza puff. That's not a thing. you can have. There's multiple times. It's a terrible food. It's not a good food. But I still eat. I want one right now. I'm probably going to order one as my appetizer. So if you guys don't know what a pizza puff is, a pizza puff is, it is actually a tortilla, believe it or not. I didn't know this. It's a tortilla that is packed full of like sauce and cheese and then often like what we would think of as a pizza topping. Sausage or pepperoni would be the only thing. Yeah. I would. sausage mostly.

It's very, and it's very little. It's not like it's filled with sausages a tiny amount. It's mostly cheese. Ghosts of sausage, right? It's mostly cheese, yeah. So it's cheese and sauce. And then it's actually like a tortilla, and then it's wrapped up, and then it's deep fried.

It's deep fried. Now, these are sold frozen, so most of the ones that you get at a store would be just taken from the freezer section and dropped right in. And when you deep fry it, the tortilla becomes like almost like a puffed, It's like a flaky thing. It's like a pastry.

Yeah. And then the interior is whatever the temperature of the fry oil is times nine. Somehow, it's the hottest thing that's like you could throw, you could sacrifice a virgin into one of these things. Like you could just, you could appease the fucking sun god just by, if you bite one within 45 minutes of it having been cooked, you are going to shred all of the interior of your mouth. And that's a good thing because when you, when you, when you, when you, when you bite into it, it turns into a volcano, and then a guy reaches in, pulls your heart out, and then takes all the...

He puts a stint in there and then he puts it back in. So it's like really nice. You get that guy who shocked tea days your heart out. And then he puts a stint on either side and you tell them that, because you're going to need one if you eat one of these. Yeah. Hottest food in the entire world. So good.

And what's crazy, too, is it's actually a pretty big piece of food and they're sold as an appetizer. There's a tiny, just big piece of food, though. It's a fucking huge piece of food. And you're like, no, I'm going to eat that before. It's got it's got to be like 2,000 calories. That is so like Chicago though, where you're just like, yeah, I'm going to eat like, I'll eat an Italian beef before I have my steak. God, I fucking love those things. I do too, man.

It's just a giant pizza roll. Yeah, I'm not, that's why I was saying it's stupid for me to shit on a pizza roll. I know. But pizza rolls, I think, are in like wanton rappers or something. I think they are in wanton. rappers and they're usually baked and not fried. Yeah. I'm just not a fan. I'm like, eh, I don't know.

Yeah, no, here's the thing. They are not good. They're kind of chewy. Yeah, and they're all, like, all the ingredients are low. And I'll eat a hundred of them. If you put them on a baking sheet, I'll be like, I'll have that whole baking sheet. 100%. I do, I can do the same thing with any cookie. I would say pretty much any cookie that's on a plate, I will probably eat until I can't stop eating them. If they're near me, I will just keep eating the cookies. I have to stop my... I have the same problem. I have to throw them outside. I have to. like take them and throw him like a discus.

They have to like run outside and just chuck them into the fucking yard or something. Nothing for I could without feeling weird about it, except for that I know I should feel weird about it. I could comfortably just open a pack of the whole package of Oreos and eat the whole package of Oreos and be like, yeah, I ate a pound of Oreos. That's fine. When I was working at a plumbing supply house, this was like years and years and years ago. And I'd work like long hours and it'd be a hard day.

I remember when I was working there and I was skinny nothing back then I was like a tiny little guy I was really thin and there was no way I could gain weight when I worked there because I was working I was on my feet all day working hard all day

just constantly like I couldn't even put enough calories in my body to sustain and I remember there would be multiple days where I'd be like I'm hungry for lunch and I would buy a thing of Oreos and a thing a half and half

and I would eat back and now I'm probably going to die in a year. But I enjoyed that. I mean, I enjoyed it. I liked it when I was a kid. If you could just dust my trans fats with sugar and cocoa powder, that's fine. Put them right in my arteries. I probably have an entire

Oreo orio lodged in a veins like I'm sure I do. An entire one. They're going to be performing CPR to me. I mean, shooting cookies out of my mouth. Like a fucking pez dispenser man. Wobo, whoop, wopo, wop. It's amazing. They just have to pour milk in my

veins to get it so it softens up. We've got to soften up. I need some half and a half step. Get some whole milk in here. Are you familiar with when the first gender affirming clinic that did transition surgeries existed? I am not aware of when that existed. Magnus Hirschfeld, the Hirschfeld Clinic in 1930 was the first trans clinic. They performed surgeries. It was a safe place for trans and LGBTQ folks. Do you know what happened after they built a medical library of information researching the

complexities of sexuality and human gender? I don't know what happened. It was the first Nazi book burning. When they burned the entire library saying that it was sexually explicit material and then executed half the people involved. Because first they came for the trans kids. Our from LGBT Nation, an HIV expert at the CDC was asked to scrub data on trans people. He quit instead.

I thought about my transgender patients and how I would face them. So this was part of the doge We just talked about with Elon Musk This was part of the doge sort of clear out Where he went around was like Hey you got to write down a fucking bullet point list Of five things that you do here all day And you know we've got to

What is awesome is In the story they very specifically asked the guy And the guy says yeah they wanted me to do five bullet points And it's we're ordered to send in five bullet points a week Describing our accomplishments During the previous week Or face termination And he said

that management provided careful guidance about how to craft these five bullet points to satisfy the AI model that would presumably be reading them for over a million civilian government employees. So they weren't even going to read them. They were going to hand it off to AI. They didn't even take the job seriously

enough to read them themselves. First is what we want. It's also busy work. It's also stupid. Like we're going to ask people who are desperately trying to keep other human beings alive to satisfy a robot overlords first? That's what we're doing.

God, it's so crazy. Like, we're doing that on purpose, guys? So crazy. What the fuck? Cecil, I will tell you this, and I mean it with absolute sincerity, dude. If somebody walks up to me and it's like, do you want the red pill or blue ball? Give me the fucking blue pill. Never give me the red.

I'll stick that red pill right up your ass. I do not want it. I want the, I want the, I want the, I want the, red if it gets me out of here. You know, that's a good point, actually. Like, that's a good point. I guess I was thinking we're like working toward that now. But I know, I mean, I'll want the red if it takes me back to 1999 or whatever.

That's fucking amazing. Give me the red. But if the, if the, if the red is we're moving forward, fast forwarding into AI culture, it's like, dude, I'll take the blue pill and I'll load it into a revolver. the other thing about this article, just really quickly, the other thing about this article is that they very specifically, this person had already written an entire paper that talked about HIV. It also talked about trans people.

It was a whole paper that very specifically talked about it. And they said, you need to take out all the trans people stuff that's in this paper because we're not going to let you publish anything that has this in there. And he then resigned. He's like, I'm not going to do that. And here's the thing. When you hear that they were literally trying to alter medical stats based on ideology, this is the thing that everybody else has been talking about for so long.

They've been saying they're trying to change the medical stats and the medical ideas to based on ideology. Like here's a clear example of them actually doing it, but you're blaming the other side for it. They're saying that's a woke thing that happens. That's not the truth. They're just publishing medical stuff. Here, they're trying to actively suppress stats because they don't want to admit that trans people exist. That's suppression of information.

And that's the thing you've been crying about forever that you never had proof of. And now you do and you're going to turn the other way. Yeah. And it's 100% that. And to add to that, it is also proof positive. This is just ironclad evidence that they are willing to let certain people in this country die. Yes, absolutely, Tom. Because what these papers, what all of this research does that acknowledges the existence of really any of these minority groups that are being singled out under DEI restrictions on reality, right?

Like we're recognizing that certain population groups are at higher risk, right? We know certain population groups are at higher risk for any number of different illnesses and, you know, social effects. and environmental effects, and these things are being studied. Because if we know what population groups are more affected than others, then we can take specific and targeted action to reduce that impact within that social group, within that cultural group, within that biological or ethnic group, whatever's being studied. But if we can't do that, those people just die. Yeah.

That's how that works. Those people get to just die. So the administration isn't just saying, hey, we want to, you know, like flat. in the curve of, they're not saying it. What they're saying is, let's not look into it because we don't want to fix it. Because we want women to die, and we want people of color to die, and we want

gay people to die, and we want trans people to die because they're not the right kind of people. Yep. Those are not the people that matter. You're such fucking dopes. You are not serious figures. You are not serious people.

This story is from the Hill. Congress looks to reclaim relevance after ceding power to the White House. So this is specifically talking about the enormous number of people who are quitting. There are, I think there's 43 people, 19 Democrats, 24 Republicans, if I'm not mistaken, that are leaving Congress, quitting Congress. And that creates an opportunity for a bunch of new names, new people, new blood to get injected into the system. And a bunch of them are like, yeah, we would actually like to be. Congress, we'd like to, you know, we're supposed to have the power of the purse. Maybe we should

have that. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, fucking, I'll, here's the thing, dude, I feel very cynical. I'll believe it when you do it. I'll believe it when you don't have that fucking dick all the way down in the back of your throat, man. When your mascara isn't running and you're not clucking like a fucking chicken, then I'll believe it. Until then, you're lying to me. Yeah. And I think that the thing is, is that I think that they had an idea how this was going to go and they were, were still going to be in power some way because they're stupid. I think that that's probably what happened. Because you can't look at the plans they had and not realize that this isn't all about executive authority. Right. You can't look at all the things that they had planned to do

and suddenly think, well, it's going to be about this, uh, this, the three branches of government all working together. No, because every single time, the three branches of government are the executive decides something, the Congress supports it and never says anything different, except for like one or two random guys on occasion that are part of this group that voice some opinion because it directly affects them. So they're the only ones that say something different.

But all the rest of them all fall in line and the same thing happens with the Supreme Court. So what you did was you already created a Supreme Court of yes people. They were all going to say yes to whatever you wanted based on a super majority, essentially a super majority, there's nothing you can do to stop them. I mean, on occasion, once in a while, one of them will vote against the majority

and it still doesn't even matter, right? Right. What are the, it doesn't even, it doesn't, it's still a five, four decision for the bad guys, right? So you're essentially, they're just capitulating constantly, and on occasion someone can have some sort of moral stance that doesn't matter because it's still, the overall thing still went through.

And then Congress does the, the exact same thing. On occasion, someone can stand up and vociferously scream about how bad this is, but they're only doing it performatively for their fucking constituents who really care about this issue, and the rest of the Congress votes exactly how the other person wanted. So they've created a system that basically feeds power up as much as possible, and now they're complaining about it. Now they're like, oh, man, I don't know. And you're like, dude, and either you're stupid, and you fucking didn't realize how stupid you were because it was fucking boldly spelled out in Project 2025, or you're a fucking liar.

Which is it? Are you stupid or are you a liar? Because I don't see a third option. What's your third option? Man, you were surprised? Like, what the fuck, dude? Yeah, like, I think like what these guys are surprised about is they thought, hey, if I fucking play along, then you'll give me the scraps from the table.

Yeah. And now they're mad that they're not getting the scraps that they were fucking promised, right? So they were a good little soldier. They did all of the stuff that they were told to do. And they were like, oh, look, I mean, I'm, yes, certainly I seated my authority to an authoritarian executive branch. And obviously, any authoritarian executive that would seek to capture Congress's authority necessarily and by definition then doesn't actually respect the separation of powers. But I thought you guys would respect me and my, get the fuck out of here. Built into the very idea of a power grab is the idea that the idea that,

that person grabbing power has no respect for anybody else and doesn't want you to have any of that power. Yeah. Yeah. So you don't get to say, but I thought me, but I thought I. What about, uh, like all that's nothing. All of that is exactly and only the thing that you should expect to have happen when you give a guy who wants power power.

Yeah. That's it. So like all of these dumb ass fucking crybaby dips shits who are like, well, I thought we would be a get go lay down. fucking lay down. Yeah, man. Bad congressman, bad congresswoman. One of them said this, said,

this is an operative that's speaking under anonymity, says a conference that had Andy Harris, Chip Roy, and Brian Fitzpatrick and Don Bacon are never going to produce meaningful legislation on things like that, on things that can pass with all Republican support.

It's never going to happen. It's part of why all the serious people are fucking leaving, the operator, operative said. And you're like, dude, there was never serious part people in your party anyway. If they were willing to capitulate to Trump and they were willing to watch him literally lead an entire group of people to try to overthrow the government so he

could stay in power last time and you guys didn't do anything about it, there's not a serious person amongst you. Don't pretend that for a moment there was a serious person. There wasn't one. You guys were masquerading as serious people and you have been for a decade. Yeah, man. If January, Like there was a million other things, a million other, a million more than we can even remember together, right? If we put all of our fucking heads together, we could not remember all of the fucking scandalous bullshit, right? But if just January 6th was not the moment, if that was not the thing that did it for you.

And like January 7th, there were a bunch of people that I thought like, okay, maybe they snapped back to reality. They fucking stood there and they gave speeches and then they later fucking checked the fucking wind direction. If I could put their wet finger in the air and they're like, oh, you know what? Sorry. Turns out I got to fucking eat those words. What do you want me to do, sir? Yes, sir. All right. I'm on all fours. Just stick it in however you like it. It's a, it's like a fucking, it's a mystery how fast those people just immediately changed their tune. You had fucking, you had Goiter McGorderson. What's his name, McConnell. McConnell. McConnell is out there.

He's shitting on him. You have all these other people. people who are literally giving speeches that are like, this is not how we act. And then a week later, everybody's like, well, actually, I think it was just a tour group. Like, it's crazy, man. I know. It, like, I would think that if you had any integrity at all and you stood up and you gave a speech like a lot of these guys gave and you denounce this kind of like, you know, violence and the destruction of democracy, like these are things that they were denouncing.

It would be difficult if you had any integrity whatsoever. to then eat those words because they're unequivocal words. These are words about values. These are words about like structural systems. These aren't like, hey, I changed my mind. It turns out actually I don't value democracy. What is happening? The people who stood against Trump are all gone, right?

Mitt Romney, out. He's no longer there. Liz Cheney out. Gone. Adam Kinsinger, out. All those people who stood up to him who said that this was, what's that? The guy that died, who the guy that died, who was dying of cancer

he flew back to cast a vote. McCain, yeah, yeah. John McCain, gone. Not many people did stand up to him, but anybody who did is gone. Those people are gone. The only one who's even bothered to stand up to him the tiniest bit

has been like the two guys from Kentucky, right? Those are the guys that are basically like one of them's Massey and the other one is Paul. Those are the two that have basically stood up to him in tiny ways, not in major ways, but in some ways they've stood up to him. And I guess now Marjorie Taylor Green is also one of those people.

Who's quitting Congress too? Who's quitting Congress? Like that's one of the people who's leaving. Right. This is what's crazy is the operatives like that's a serious person to them. Throw this operative off a bridge. They're terrible. What is wrong with them?

I know. And like, I'm going to read to the very end of the article because I think this is just like, if you had any hopes that this was anything, let me read the bottom of this article. So listen to what Tom Tillis actually says about this thing. The administration was a lot of, a lot of a good change, okay, said Tom Tillis, but has really caused people to back into their political corners. Frankly, I'm not optimistic about a lot of bipartisan work getting done in any of the politically thorny areas. I think people are going to move back into their corners. He's basically

like, yeah, this is nothing. Nothing's going to change. Tom Tillis is basically like, yeah, don't fucking count on anything getting any better. I'm pretty sure, with respect, if there was some news about Jeff Epstein, I would have heard. No, I don't know where you, what rock you been under. It was a huge story. And I have to, Jeff, Epstein is, I have to tell you, he's gone. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. Sorry,

nice try. If Jeff. This story is from Salon, Trump sent Mar-a-Lago masseuses on Epstein House calls. A new report from the Wall Street Journal dives into the origin of a rift between Trump and Epstein. Fucking yikes, man.

Like, Mar-a-Lago. was sending 18-year-old girls, masseuses at 18, which, by the way, I don't know this for a fact, but like, at least in Illinois, you've got to go to school to be a licensed massage therapist. Like, you can't just like hang out your shingle and be like, yeah, I give rubbins, hire me for, hire me for a nice rubbing. That's not how that, like, you go to school to be a licensed massage therapist, and it doesn't take five minutes. It actually is like a program that you have to go through. There's a medical portion of it.

There's a practical portion of it. There's hours you have to do. How the fuck is some 18-year-old a licensed massage therapist, man? And what are you sending 18-year-old girls to some anybody's house? Like anybody's house so that somebody can take their clothes off? And what is happening? Even if it's just a massage, it is the sketchiest, least safe thing to ask an 18-year-old kid to fucking do.

Holy shit. First off, I think it's very weird that the club would do this anyway, right? So it says, this is a report that Salon is reporting on. I think it came out in the Wall Street Journal. It says, per the report published Tuesday, Trump sent young women who worked for Palm Beach Resort to Epstein's home. So not like, it's not like they're sending him to a room on the place, right? It's not like you come in and you say, I'm at the golf course. I'm also going to have a spa day. I'm going to get like, you know, somebody's going to pour some fucking wax on my face and tear off my eyebrows and fucking acid my skin and then paint all my different digits a different color. And then I'm also going to get a massage, right? There's not like a space

there or even a private room where you can like rent a room for the day and just like relax in your spa day and then someone comes by to give you like your foot bath and then maybe like a massage or something. Not that at all. This is his private hole. Right. So it is his private. Someone has to get in a car and go down the street to Jeffrey Epstein's private fucking estate that they sent the person who worked for Marilago too. Okay? If that doesn't sound fucking weird

to everybody, you're fucking just do the blue pill thing or whatever it is that you need. Because that's super fucking weird, man. That is weird as shit. The other thing is that they kept this it says the resort kept this practice up for years, even though Epstein was not a member of the club.

The Alder reported that the house calls went on, even as spa employees warned each other about Epstein. Employees told the paper that Epstein's known among staff for being sexually suggestive and exposing himself during the appointments. Now, Jelaine Maxwell went to prison for sending girls to fucking Jeffrey Epstein

to molest. Yep. She went to prison for what they did. Yeah. Think about it in another way. I know that there are in-home massage therapy. Like, you can actually call and get a massage therapist to come to your home. That is a thing.

but like they are not 18 year old girls, right? These are not teenagers that are showing up. And think about this too. If you are running Mara Lago, if you're running a club, you want people to go to your club. What are you sending out calls for? Why are you dealing with out calls at all?

That's fucking weird. What are you outsourcing people into people? You should want people to come to your spa. That's why you run a club. You run a club so people who are members show up and spend their fucking money at your club. What the fuck? Why can't they come to the club?

What are they asking for? What is the reason that somebody wants you who are not a massage only business, right? You're running a club. You're running Mar-a-Lago. Why are you also a fucking escort service? Because that's what this is describing. It's describing a fucking grotesque escort service. That's what this is describing.

And you're complicit in it for that long? Like, come on, man. Who are we kidding? You need to, at this point, there's a lot of things that are stacking up against you. Prove some of them aren't right. Prove some of them are wrong. Instead, you're just like, no, there's nothing to see here. Yeah, get the fuck out of here.

Get the actual fuck out of here. And I know that, like, the retort to this is, as soon as Trump found out that Epstein was being a creep, that he, like, fucking broke ties to them. But that's not actually what's reflected in the record. What's reflected in the record, it sounds like, is, Epstein tried to hire away one of the victims who was working at the Mara Lai

and Trump got mad that he hired an employee of his got mad. That's just that's just him being like hey, I owned that girl, not you. Holy shit, what? What is any of this? I think the reason why they fucking wanted all this shit redacted and why they hit all bunch of shit and they haven't released everything yet,

etc., etc., is very specifically. And they went through to fucking remove his name because Trump is in these things. Trump is in here. Trump is complicit with something in here, and he's trying to hide it, and he's been trying to hide it for a while. All right, that's going to wrap

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