Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 894: ICE Overreach, Greenland Saga

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

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I don't know, man, something. It doesn't matter. 22nd. Sure. We're over a year, man. We are over a year. This entire narrative yesterday was not complete. No.

So it's been a wild ride. And to be sure, it is still not 100% complete because Trump is very fickle. It changes his mind at any moment of the day. But what started out, and I think we need to talk about the actual, like the lead up, the down the hill. You know, it's like a whole roller coaster. It's been a lot, man. You start out, you start going up, and then you go down the hill, and then you do a couple loop-de-loops, and it throws you for a couple of those.

If the Greenland situation from Trump were, like, somebody you were dating, you'd be like, what is with the mixed messages? Who are you? Dude, I would, we have to talk about this relationship. I'd have broke up after the first story. Oh, I know, man. Especially like, we'll take it by force. Be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you do too much of that.

I'm being single for the rest of my life and I'm buying a dog. Jesus Christ. life now. I'm not doing any of this. This is a lot. This is what I'm this is what I can expect. I'm not doing it. Peace it out. Sorry, I'm opting out of the system. Not doing it. Just, you know what I'm swiping fucking no. Yeah. I'm deleting the app. I'm breaking my phone afterwards too.

Yeah. It starts out with like early last. So it actually starts out in Trump's first presidency. Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. So it starts out in Trump's first presidency. And I really think this is the key. just like Donald Trump when he was told hey Alabama isn't going to be part of this storm he got his Sharpie out and he drew on a on a map to show that he was right

I feel like this is the same thing one day he probably just was musing with a group of people or said something out loud or maybe even meant a different country or a different territory right and said Greenland and it leaked everybody talked about it for about a week and a half,

and they made fun of him about it. A bunch of people made fun of it. So now he's doubling in. And the thing is is Donald Trump does not like it when people make fun of him. Even though it's what's crazy, it's like his whole life is literally made for people to make fun of him. He doesn't like it and he digs in like you suggest. And what he did was now he's in a situation where he's pushing as hard as he can to get Greenland.

So he's been sending out, and it might be Iceland, but it's possibly Greenland. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Norway for Denmark's territory. It's the best. It's the best. Because he doesn't know.

He doesn't understand that these are different places. He thinks all four of those places is probably the same place. I want one of the icy ones. He was like, but in any case, where the slurpees come from? Tom, I feel like we have to read the first part of this is,

you know, he's been, he's been rumbling over Greenland for for a couple of months. There's been rumbles. And we tried to land there. and we went to one of our military bases and they didn't meet them there. There's kind of been a sort of coldy.

It's been a little frosty. You know what I mean? There's a chill in the negotiations. So they definitely didn't want to talk to us at all. And there's been demonstrations in Greenland very specifically about the United States as encroachment into their, you know, possibly wanting to take over the territory.

But the best part starts early last week when we get a letter. And this letter, Tom, I feel like you got to read the letter. So this is from the Atlantic, right? Yeah, this is from the Atlantic. And this is the letter that Trump sent to Norway. Trump's letter to Norway should be the last straw. Now I'm going to read this insanity letter.

Dear Jonas, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Prize Prize. I just, okay, I'm going to read it like a person, but I just want to tell you guys, like the capitalization is so insanely random. I'll put it on the big screen so people can see it if they want to. It's so fucking random. Okay, so Dear Jonas, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a right of ownership anyway?

There are no written documents. it's only a boat that landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there too. I have done more for NATO than any person since its founding, and now NATO should do something for the United States. The world is not secure unless we have complete and total control of Greenland. Thank you, President DJT. Now, this wasn't sent to Denmark.

This was sent to the Prime Minister of Norway. So why would you do this? that, you think. So there's so much insanity peppers here. Like, this is like fucking crazy. So he's super butt hurt that he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize. The Nobel Peace Prize.

Well, he got to hand me down. And the Nobel committee was like, that's nothing. I just want to like, just say, for real, that's nothing. You can't. There's a story here. It's non-transferable. We'll cover it, but it's so funny. Anyway, go ahead. Okay. So

here's what's fucking nuts. He didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize. He's wanted one. He's mad that Obama got one. He wants his own Peace Prize. He didn't get it. The Nobel Peace Prize Committee physically sits in Norway. I think he thinks that it's a governmental thing. And so he wrote a letter to the Prime Minister of Norway that a private organization, not controlled by Norway, didn't give him the Peace Prize. So Norway should give him Greenland, which they don't own, because Denmark has

it, and there's no papers, there's just boats. The aristocrats. What? Jesus Titty fucking Christ! What is even any of this? Yeah, that's good. What is any of that? And he's just like genuinely yesterday.

So that's the first story, right? I just want to say one more. One other quick thing. He keeps talking. He keeps saying that he's solved eight wars plus. So I want to point a couple of things out. One, no, he didn't. Just straight up, that's not a true fact.

I think that's an important piece to point out. That's very, like, just no. Just no to that. Like, if you just fact check that for 10 seconds. But the other thing I want to point out is what does 8 plus mean? Because like, if it's 9, say 9. If it's 10, you could say 10. Why would you say 8 plus?

Are there, are there like diet, T-moos, watered-down wish wars that you like kind of salt? I feel like one of the wars was bigger than the others. What is that? And it needs to go to like a big and tall store to get close. I, why? Eight plus. Ah. Eh.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, dude. It doesn't, it doesn't make any sense. His, uh, his plan. Big and tall. His plan after they, uh, first, Norway's like, cool story. Yeah.

Okay. I think you delivered this to the wrong people. Wrong thread. And so anyway, he had, after that, patulently said, we're going to now go back to tariffs that I had said we weren't going to do. So he's using tariffs as a weapon against these other countries,

especially EU countries. He also leaked a bunch of texts that were sent to him privately by private leaders of the world. Most of them treating him like a child, which made him look terrible. Terrible. Made him look terrible.

I have no idea why he would leak that. I think he leaked it because he thought that they were on his side. But when you read the text, you're like, they're just placating you, do. Like, you're such a child that they don't even treat you like a serious person. Yep. It's like genuinely, those text messages are embarrassing, but also, holy shit. Like, now everybody who's communicating with you as a peer leader is now, looking and being like, oh, I can't actually use this.

I won't send that anymore. We can't, we can't even have a productive conversation because you're not a good faith actor. You're not a serious person. Like what the shit? Like, there would be, we don't do this. We just, we don't do any of this stuff. Like, we don't do any of this stuff. When he decided, so

NATO, some of the NATO countries were like, hey, we're going to send a small contingent to troops to Greenland as a sort of like show that we are, you know, we're committed. We're committed to Greenland's independence and sovereignty and all that stuff. You know, like, it's part of Denmark and like, it's not for sale and you can't just take it. And so the tariffs that were proposed were proposed on all of the countries that sent troops

to Greenland and there was going to be like an extra 10% or something. And the markets just absolutely took a shit. I hated it. The markets completely took a shit. And that's the thing is I think the only thing he's responsive to is the market. Because then he went to what happened next was obviously stocks take a shit. shit because of that. A bunch of markets turned and we're down.

Then he goes over and he heads to Davos. Yep. And he says he has one of the cringiest, dumbest error-filled speeches

of his career, of his presidential career. And imagine that. Imagine the comparison. Yeah. It's not like, it's not like, It's like, it's like somebody before had a had a dog shit sandwich and now it's just dog shit.

Like at least before it had Brett, right? Now there's nothing. It's so bad. He refers to Greenland as Iceland three times. When called out on it on Twitter, the Carolyn Levitt responded by saying, no, he didn't. You can just watch it. You can just watch the speech when he says it three times he says, But essentially he gets called, like that at this point, we're just denying the things he said out loud as if those things aren't real. But he's already doing that in other spaces. But he comes out and he essentially comes out as a giant bullet and says, you guys can't take us on. Nothing you do can scares us. We can do what we want. We're not going to take it by force, but know that we can if we wanted to. And you're going to have to work with us. And then all the rest of the leaders, basically,

basically came out and said, hey, it looks like we're not working with America anymore. So everybody, looks like we're not going to do it. Yep. And then immediately afterwards, he was like, oh, we came to an agreement. And the agreement, it appears, because nobody really knows because it hasn't really been disclosed. They came to the framework of an agreement. It's like the same thing as like a concept of a plan. Right.

But it came to a framework of an agreement, Tom, that is basically the same thing we always had with Greenland, which is we can put military bases there. Yeah. more because we already have military bases there. Okay. Yeah. So you can just keep doing the same thing you're doing? You bet. And like, we've had a treaty since the 1950s,

which is allowed that. Denmark has said from the beginning, yeah, man, if you want more shit here, put more shit here. Cool. We aren't getting literally any one thing. We might get, I guess, some like, so they're talking about like maybe

like a modeling the bases in Greenland off of British bases in, I forget where the actual base itself becomes technically U.S. soil. But from a practical perspective, that's nothing. It never was anything. It doesn't actually change anything at all. But what it would do is we'd give Trump cover to say that we now own part of Greenland or all of Greenland because we'd have, you know, you'd just lie about it, right? But like none of this is anything. And also, this is the part that makes me crazy. He wants Greenland. Greenland is a territory of Denmark.

He sends a letter to Norway, and then he negotiates a framework with the head of NATO. At no point, does he negotiate this with Denmark? Yeah, Denmark's not even involved. Denmark's got to be like, you can't come to an agreement about my stuff without me here. Unless the person from NATO just convinced him to accept the treaties that already exist. Right, yeah. Then that's nothing. Hey, Dumbel.

Then that's nothing. We already had that. You just, you tanked the market for three days for nothing. For nothing. You did, you basically lost people a bunch of wealth. Yeah. Well, and like, I also want to explain a little bit about what I am worried about economically with this whole shenanigans.

So, like, there's the markets. And the markets are maybe important, maybe less important. But then I know I've talked about this before, but like, what I am really afraid of is the bond market situation. Oh, yeah. So, and everybody should be afraid of the bond market situation. because when you go to buy a car or a house or anything else, the interest rate that you pay on all of your debts,

credit cards, cars, educational loans, all of that stuff, all that stuff is loosely tied to the bond market and the yield that treasury bonds offer in order to induce investors to buy those bonds. The higher the yields, the higher the interest rates. These are, they track together. Right now, the third largest economy in the world is Japan. And Japan is,

is offering very high bond yields. So if you are an investor, you've got an economic incentive to go buy Japanese bonds instead of American bonds. The thing that always has made American bonds really appealing to investors is they have always been looked at

as the safest, least volatile place to park your money, safer than any other place in the world. But when we start fucking around like this, we tell the world that those bonds are not as safe, that they are more subject to these kinds of wild fluctuations, these ups and downs, that our markets, our financial systems are less stable, they are less reliable. That is a less of an inducement

for investors to buy into the safety of American bonds. That means we have to pay higher yields in order to get people to buy those bonds because that's how we finance all of our debt. So if we don't sell those bonds, the whole system collapses, right? We need them to finance our debt. So what do you do? Well, you're going to raise rates on those. You're going to raise yields rather on those bonds. So it doesn't really matter what he can convince the Fed share to do. If bond yields go up, your interest rates are going to go up. That's how that fucking system works.

Yeah. That's why the Supreme Court right now is looking like they're not going to kick Lisa Cook off the Federal Reserve Board because they're like, yeah, that'll destroy faith in the American economy if Trump is allowed to do that. if any president is allowed to it. Because they understand that, like, they will literally destroy the global economy if we do that shit.

This kind of instability is, like, it's one thing for the markets to go crazy, but the bond market, that's the bedrock. And that's the thing kind of nobody really talks about. If we fuck that shit up, we might not be able to unfuck it, man. Well, and speaking of not being able to unfuck it,

you can't fix the relationship you've had with Europe. Yeah. After this. No? I don't feel like... Broken. Because, because, because how can they believe you elect,

let's pick somebody right now who's in the view of this. Let's say, I'm just going to pick a name. I'm not endorsing this person, but let's just say Pete Buttigieg is their next president. Sure. Right? Let's just say Pete Buttigieg skyrockets through the American consciousness and becomes the next president.

Pete Buttigieg will not be able to fix what Trump broke. It would have to be three or four presidents down the line to see that you have some. sort of stability in your in just your interactions with that group socially rather than just fiscally right? Like you might be able to fix

some of these fiscal problems. I don't think some of these are broken indefinitely. But I think you may be able to fix some of them if people are like, hey man, they look like they're a lot more stable. Maybe I'll put my money back over there. But like the relational stuff that you've broken because our system is so it's so weighted towards the president that the president can do unilateral things

that are terrible. And our system is so volatile that every few years a new president can come in and have a totally different outlook and view on our relationship with these people. So it's a terrible place for those people to be in. What should really happen is the president shouldn't have the kind of control

that he has over these types of relationships. These relationships are country relationships, They're not presidential personal relationships. So it should never feel like the president is breaking ties or doing something like a business person. This is a relationship that's been built up since World War II. Yeah. And you just ruined it. And I don't know how it's fixable in a single year with a new president.

It's not fixable over multiple presidencies. Yeah. You've ruined this for us. There's multiple people all across the country, not all across the country, all across the the world that are not going to come to America now. They're not going to invest in American products. They're not going to pay for American goods. They're not going to consume American media. They're going to stay away from all the things that America does because they're boycotting America in general. Yeah. And we've seen the financial effects of that, but you're also going to

see the social effects of how that's going to treat us. And that leaves a vacuum for other big powers in the world to swoop right in. So this vacuum that we create, this riff that we create between us in Europe, they still need all the things that they wanted. They still want to collect all those things that they needed. Now they're going to go get a brick and a fucking wood from China. They're not going to get the brick and the wood from us. Yeah, man.

Yep. I completely agree, man. I think we have upset the world order in a way that is going to require the whole thing to be completely rebuilt and reanalyzed and reconsidered. If you're Europe, you've got to look at Americans say, that's a bad faith actor. And this whole process has exposed the fragility of their system and how it can be operated on a whim by any strong man.

So what we have to do to protect ourselves, to protect Europe, is to maybe ally ourselves with other world powers, other more protective world powers, or create our own protective shield and become a sort of force. But they can't look at us and say, like it used to be that America got to operate and have these sort of like alliances and they were symbiotic in nature.

Like we got a lot out of these. We got an enormous amount out of these relationships. But if you break that and you say, I'm in charge, I'm a bully, you'll do what I do. Then they're going to say, all right, yeah, for now. But I'm going to find a way to meet my other needs without dealing with this bully bullshit. If you were trying to, wouldn't you be rubbing your hands right now

and be like, I'm going to figure out a way to fucking get in there. This plays right into the hands of China. wouldn't I? Of course I would. The destruction, the weakening, the degradation of NATO is like the greatest gift you could give Russia right now. I think you're absolutely right. You're 100% right. Not only Russia, but I think China also has could benefit greatly from this. I will say this. I think that this idea needs to get out there. And so anybody who's listening who thinks this is a good idea helps spread this in some way. But genuinely, the next person who takes office in the presidency in the United States has to remove every link we have to unitary executive theory.

Yes. They have to cut back and roll back the powers of the presidency. I saw an interview with AOC yesterday where she said, we need to do what they're doing when we're in the presidency. And I disagree. I think we need to do what they're doing until Congress gets together to stop it and say, no more. We can't do this. We can't have such vicissitudes where it's one, four years, we're doing something totally different.

And then four years later, and it's all on the whim of one person. If you think this is a good idea, we need to inject this into the consciousness in the United States. Somehow this idea has to get out there because we are so unstable when we pour all that power up to the top and then we give it to a single person. Because that single person, if they're not responsible, and we've shown what happens when an irresponsible person has that position, it can really upturn everything we have.

So it needs to be switched so that that's not a thing, so that the power goes down. And maybe that means there's less of a chance of, you know, that we're going to have to work more locally than we have been before. Sure. But I think like that just has to happen. I think we can't trust a single person in that job anymore

with the powers that it has. The powers have to go or we have to split that job into a, a couple of people or something, because at this point, it's not working the way it shows. It's not, man. And, like, it's not working the way that it was designed. Yeah. Like, we've broken the design of the system. We've broken. We've talked about this before, but, like, we've broken everything that everybody who ever took high school civics thought about how our country worked. And we were taught that that was the thing that made us safer and, like, you know, enabled a lot of growth and a lot of stability. I think that that's true. I think it has made us

safer. I think that a reasonable amount of adversarialism within the three branches of our government helps to keep those parties in check. When you remove the adversarialism from it, when everybody becomes a fucking rubber stamp up to the top, and then it's just one guy who puts pants on, making all of these fucking crazy decisions. That's a king, dude.

That's a fucking king. That's a fucking king, man. I want to float one other idea past you. Here's what I think is motivating some of this. I really think, this is what I really think is motivating some of this. Like the arguments for Greenland just to lay them out there because people may be scratching their heads is like, well, you know, as the ice sheets melt, there are a lot more trade routes that are available. So there's an enormous amount of economic value to that area and controlling that area. That is just true.

There's a lot of mineral wealth that may be in Greenland. They think that there's a lot of like rare earth metals and things which would be available. There's very few mines actually active in Greenland. There's only two active mines in Greenland because it's so inhospitable. and difficult to get to, but that may change with climate change. And then strategically, the Arctic in general is a place where, like, world powers want to have control because if you're launching missiles and you want to defend from those missiles, the Arctic is a place that missiles would be intended to fly over.

So there's like, but I don't think any of that is anything. Here's what I think. I think Trump literally wants to do the things that he thinks of when he thinks of great presidencies. I think he wants his own Louisiana purchase. Yeah, this is actually more land than the Louisiana purchase. I think he wants his own buying of Alaska. I think he wants his own...

I think he wants his name. He wants to be in a book. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's why he wants to be on the fucking Mount Rushmore. This is all about personal self-aggrandizement. And he's got ideas that are like a hundred years old about what the great presidents did. Oh, great, bought, you know, the Louisiana purchase or the purchase of Alaska, these things that added permanently to the size. in shape. If he were to do it, if he were to like, let's say buy Greenland or take Greenland by force,

then he would be remembered forever for being the president that added the largest island in the world to the American territories. It would be a huge thing to remember. I think this is all about his personal self-aggrandized. Yeah, absolutely. No, I don't disagree. I think that that's absolutely true. I think it's easy to see when the way he talks, this is a, you know, the sort of Monroe doctor and idea that he follows. It's a, I, I, I, I, I hundred percent. I believe it's Don Roe. Don Roe.

Live or die, man. Die. Wrong. So this story comes from Big Black Cock, BBC. Venezuelan Nobel Peace Prize winner presents her medal to Trump. So she wrote on the side, basically, this is a gift to Donald Trump. It's a picture of him smiling and getting it. I can't show it because BBC is blocking out, very specifically blocking out the

page every time I scroll down to the picture it tells me I need to pay to see it but you can find the image of her and him talking about it and the best shit I've seen this week is the people who have been posting the social media of Trump receiving other awards my favorite

was Daniel Larusa given him his trophy that he won in Karate Kid and there's been a bunch of these is that real? Because like I wouldn't even be surprised you know what I mean? Like we're living in a world so that that that's that Scott Bayer

or what is there? Fucking Ralph Machio? Same guy. If Ralph Machio gave his fucking karate kid trophy to Trump, would you even bat an eye? The thing is, is like there's so many, there's one where Indy's giving him the idol. There's so many of these that are just amazing.

You can give him the crystal skull. That would be fine because I don't consider that camera. It's so funny. Give them that fucking thing they drink out of and turn into an old person. The fucking grail or whatever. The grail, the holy grail. Give him the fucking wrong grail. I mean, he's,

He's already old and dying in front of her eyes. Nobody would notice the change. Nobody would notice the change. You get some fucking hair wispies and everything. And whatever. It's so cringe. It's so embarrassing. And he's smiling like,

I got a Nobel Peace Prize finally. It's not. It's so fucking cringy, dude. So Cecil, when I saw this, I immediately thought, yeah, I can buy an Olympic medal on eBay. It doesn't make me an Olympic medalist. Like, I can literally go on eBay right now

and buy somebody's Olympic medal. There are people selling their Olympic medals on eBay. That's kind of sad and I feel bad about that. But like me buying one doesn't make me the fucking like ski jump winner. How much does an Olympic medal cost? It depends on the event and then like what metal. What's the shittiest event? I don't know.

But there's some of them that are not that expensive. Like if you want to like a bronze medal for fucking some sport, nobody watched, like they're not wildly expensive. Like we're talking like $500 or something? Yeah, they're not crazy expensive. Yeah. You could just buy one. I know. I know.

But like, I'm not the ski jump winner, you know. I didn't like do the best at curling or whatever. Do you have podcast awards on there? Cecil. Cecil. Here's what we got to do. Okay. For realzies, we are going to go on eBay. We're going to buy an Olympic medal and we're going to rebrand it as a podcast.

And then give it to ourselves. And we're going to present it to ourselves. We're going to get two. I'll get one for you. You get one for me. Awesome. Yeah. We'll have a medal ceremony.

where we put it on each other. Oh. And then I'll do the Chebacca thing where I look up to this guy. I'm like, it'd be awesome. We got to get Ian. We got to fly Ian out

to present them. Yeah, Ian's got to present him. Ian's got to dress as Chewbacca. Ian should get the bronze. Ian should get the bronze. We got to fly Sarah out here to give, well, no, Sarah should get the gold.

We'll get silver. We'll share the silver. No, but. Like, how crazy is this? The Nobel Prize committee was like, no, you didn't. Yeah. Why? You shouldn't even have to say anything.

Of course you didn't. Non-transferable. Like, are you crazy? What are you talking about? It is so embarrassing that this guy is so enamored with things that he will... I mean, it's so debasing. It is. Right?

Like, I think that's the thing is that it's just such a debasing thing to watch this guy debase himself. Not only with like the FIFA World Prize or whatever he got. The FIFA World Peace Prize or whatever. But then he got this Peace Prize. I feel like everybody should just, anybody who wants to talk to him in the future just needs to get it. So be like if Maddo wants to talk to me,

they give him the Facebook Peace Prize. It's a big F with like a Nobel, like a Laurel around the bottom. And they just give it to them. Just everybody gives him peace prizes. From now on, everybody should just give him peace prizes. I think that's how you got to do it. It's so embarrassing. It's so pathetic.

It's just like the stories of him cheating at golf. Or like putting up his plaque as like the, because he like the all time winner of his own golf tournaments. Of his own golf tournaments. And being the first one to play. So of course he shot the best round because he was the first one to play it. And then he puts a plaque up. This is a guy for whom like it's very obvious that the trappings of success,

he can't see the difference. Yeah. Right. He doesn't know the difference between actually having like succeeded and earned something and getting the award. So he's like, yeah, I got the award. And it's like, dude, nobody's. thinks you got that award. Literally nobody thinks you got that award. I gave 10 years ago,

I gave my son a brother of the year award for a whole year when he was a little kid. He had like a baby brother and he was like eight. And I kept telling him like, you know, oh, you're doing such a good job with your little brother. You're going to win that brother of the year award. And he always kind of looked at me like I was making it up. Like he's like, I think you're making that up. But he kind of didn't know for sure because he was fucking eight, you know. So then I had a trophy made and a certificate made and I sent it FedEx to the house

so that I didn't come home and give it to him. So one day he just comes home and on the doorstep is an award. Very official looking award and he thought he won brother of the year. He legitimately thought he still has that trophy. He is 19 years old. He still has that trophy. That's

the bullshit made up award and it's more legitimate than this. Like that award that I invented is a more legitimate award to be on You're going to hand me down Nobel Prize. He worked harder than Trump did on peace. Well, yeah, right? Hey, Trump, how many fucking wars?

Eight plus? Is it eight plus? It's eight plus. Eight plus or minus eight? It's just what I, what I think is, is so embarrassing about this whole thing is that this president thinks that, thinks that he can pressure people. Because this isn't, this isn't just one thing, right? this is him looking for this award, getting it from FIFA,

then getting it from an actual award holder, who thought there would be some quid pro quo, by the way. The reason why I was given wasn't because I think she was being nice. The reason why she even, I think, even had to say anything about Trump when she got it was because Trump was so upset he didn't get it that she had to make some kind of excuse for getting it. Well, and I really think so the person who won the, the nobamian, LPs Prize was the opposition leader in Venezuela. So it seems fairly clear that she is angling to be ensconced into power as the new leader of

Venezuela after we fucking straight up kidnapped the prior leader of Venezuela. So I think she's like, oh, you're obsessed with this award like a fucking idiot. I'll give you my fucking award and then you give me Venezuela. And it didn't happen. It didn't happen. Afterwards, he was just like, yeah, she seemed nice. I don't know what we talked about. I was staring at the award the whole time,

just fingering around the award. I'm gonna go home and fuck this award. I wasn't really plain with that. I had a lot of foreplay going on with the award. So I was running my hands around in a circle for an hour. That's what I was doing. It's just like so fucking cringe at that. Oh, God.

Unbelievable. I don't got a boy head, John Fetter. Walk can't get lit out of the Democrat party. Get a bitch pregnant out of Republican Party. Call for the man, dad got fat, no, who the fuck you think you is? Who the hell you thought you was?

Nigger bought a church in Pennsylvania Off his family drugs Nigger, he like 6-8 White man can't jump to this day All auntie said was God damn Ted Fetterman, he can suck my day I'll take that back

I don't want him to do that NBC News Progressive effort to primary Senator John Fetterman ramps up He's not even getting primary until four years from now and everybody's just like Get him out

We can't wait to get you out Get the fuck out You know what I'm gonna do Donate to that I can't wait for some of these people that every day. I can't wait for some of these people just go away forever though.

This guy's one of them. Get rid of them. Get rid of this guy. Get rid of anybody who's like, anybody who's like super middle of the road that is following their policies that is not doing anything. Like this guy's like, yeah, Greenland, great. Go for it.

He's a fucking, look, he's like that fucking dipshit asshole from West Virginia, fucking mansion. Mansion. You know, he got into power as a Democrat and now he's a fucking right winger. He's just a straight up right winger. He's straight up.

I think he genuinely had a stroke and that fucked his brain up. I do too because that fucked his brain up. This is not how he was talking before his stroke. It really, it wasn't. He had a stroke and like. And he's not the same person. Yeah. So like you got to go, dude.

Yeah. Get rid of this guy. Go. But it's crazy to me because I forgot how long. Like I always thought, I was like, oh, he's going to be up soon. But no, he's been in there. Clearly he was in 2022 because it had to be 20. It has to be.

In 2018. Yeah. Or he's, but he's genuinely a disaster. He's the fucking worst, man. But I think like Pennsylvania is kind of weird middle of the road territory anyway. Yeah, but like he doesn't even feel to me, lately, he feels straight up right wing. Straight right wing.

He's not even like a centrist. If he was a centrist, I could be like, yeah, all right. Like, we agree on a lot of things, actually. There's no distinction between him and a republic. He's a fucking Republican. The imagination sickens at the crimes laid upon the accused, now stripped of the trappings of power. The world's writ has run to Nurember And justice waits

This story is from Huffington Post Christy Noem, don't say ice agent Jonathan Ross's name So she was on Meet the Press, I think And she had a conversation And the person said the So the guy who killed Renee Good Who shot her name is Jonathan Ross

He He murdered her And then a bunch of people were like, yeah, that's Jonathan Ross. And they told people who he was. By the way, I thought I saw that he had gotten a bunch in a go fund me. So like the bunch of money came in afterwards. I'm sure. It doesn't surprise me.

Yeah. And so they, so afterwards when he's being mentioned by name on the news channel, she said, don't mention his name. And they're like, well, why? And like, well, he's going through a lot of problems. You're like, well, that's what happens when you murder people. That's what happens when you get shoot somebody in the face. I don't understand why that would be an issue,

but they're upset that they're being dachshund. And my answer to this is, if you were doing the right thing, you wouldn't care that people knew who you were or not. You know you're doing the wrong thing. You know this was illegal. You know this was a breach of the law, which is why you want to hide this person.

Because if not, you would be like, well, who cares if he knows what he did? He did the right thing. I'm really, really worried that step two, Cecil, is an executive order or a federal law that intentionally hides the name and makes it a crime to disseminate the name of these federal troops

because then you're going to have an anonymous federalized military force roaming the streets of America. We've got to, after this, if this ever snapped back, the rubber band never snaps back

to the point where sane people are in charge, you've got to charge every single one of these people who broke the law. Yeah, you do. You've got to charge every single one of these people.

And they're totally protecting this person. They're not going to do this Jonathan Ross. I might as well keep saying his name. Jonathan Ross. Jonathan Ross. Yeah, the murderer, Jonathan Ross. They're going to keep, they didn't even open a investigation for Jonathan Ross's murder over Renee Good. Yeah.

And they're not going to. And they're going to keep doing this for agent after agent after agent. And like-agent's like Jonathan Ross. Agents just like Jonathan Ross that shoot people like Renee Good. Yeah. Yeah. I think the goal, I think this is like something. if you're the administration, this makes you very happy.

I think this makes you very, very happy. Because they're going to say, oh, these guys are getting doxed. These guys are getting harassed. There was people who died. It was somebody internally gave a bunch of names of people who work for ICE. Yeah, thousands of names of people who work for ICE. But like, we should have that.

We should have transparency. They should have to wear a badge number. They shouldn't be able to cover their face. If a police officer shows up to your door, they have to tell you who they are, They have to provide their badge number. We can't, you cannot have anything other than just a straight up banana republic controlled by like dictatorial military coup bullshit.

Like, you got to have transparency. We don't have functioning democratic government without transparency. You can't have accountability. They are going to get rid of all that. They're already wearing masks. They're not going to have to like share their names. I bet you see so they're going to have a law by the end of this year. By the end of this year, there will be a law, an executive order, something, making

doxing. these people illegal. I mean, it's insane. I saw yesterday that little, that little guy, the little tiny cash, the little tyke, the guy who's their bodengino or bovino or whatever his name is. A bovino, right? Dan bovino. He's the guy who's the head of their on-the-ground operations. And he was throwing, he threw a fucking tear gas grenade into a group of people. And he was admonished by a judge here in Chicago that you can't do this sort of thing. And he goes to Minnesota and he does it. Yeah. I mean, like, this is a sort of thing that that's a real problem with the states is that there's some real issue when it comes to the states because something here can go to court and people can say, don't do that. And he'll be like, fine, I won't do that here.

But then he'll go to another state and he'll do it. Do whatever. Yeah. You know, Haley and I were talking yesterday. And like, when you look at some of the comment sections for some stuff where people seem to, people on the right seem to be very much in support of some of these immigration actions. and it's like, well, they're like, well, if you don't have, you know, if you're not here illegally, it's not a problem. And it's like, you misunderstand entirely. Even if I'm not here illegally, if the system is damaged such that, let's say I have, let's say CISEL, I have my passport in my

pocket. I'm an American citizen. I have my passport in my pocket. And I am an agitator. I'm an organizer for resistance. I'm an organizer for these. And I get detained by an ICE agent. I'm like, well, I got a passport. I'm an American citizen. You know, they can. I'm a organizer. I'm an organizer. You know, they could just take your passport, put it in their pocket, arrest you. And if you don't have a right to do process, guess what didn't matter? Your passport. That's it. These people are being held very often in places like military bases because there's no federal oversight. There's no like local oversight. You can't get on federal bases. They're being held in these detention centers where we are restricting access even for lawmakers to go to these detention centers. They have a right

by law to go and inspect these. We're saying no. Like if you strip people of their due process rights, it doesn't matter if you even have your papers. Yeah, yeah. Because they'll, like, if you have your papers, if I have papers and you have a gun and I don't care anymore, if I'm the guy with the gun and I don't care about the rules anymore,

then what do you have? Well, and because I got the gun. And this is the problem with the idea of, you know, this leads into their whole idea of the best argument wins, right? when they talk about, oh, well, if you have the best argument, you'll just win. Like, that's what we should do. This is the same thing. It's like, if you had the, if you had the right and the law was on your side to deport these people,

then just do it right. Yeah. They keep going back to, well, if they're here illegally, they don't deserve these rights. We should, you know, they should have done it correctly as that's their argument. They should have done it correctly. But it's the other side of the argument, too, is like, well, we're not doing it correctly, by stopping them from being here. If they are here illegally,

there's plenty of processes to get them out of the country. We don't fund most of those processes. The people that normally have are immigration judges. We have a backlog on cases because where we spend all our money is on the enforcement part.

If we spent it on the actual administrative part, on the bureaucracy part, then you would be able to flush a lot of this stuff out of there and you wouldn't have to worry about the enforcement part because people would be applying to come here. It wouldn't be one of these problems that you're having where people are trying to get in. The problem is that we have these ridiculous small quotas that we've put on where we say we won't

accept any people after this and we're bottling up people who want to be here for asylum. We'll destroy entire parts of the world and then refuse them entry here. That happens all the time, all the time. If we just had regular processes and we actually funded that, then that, that would fix the whole system. And they're saying, well, they're doing it wrong. Well, we're doing it wrong too. Yeah.

Okay. Well, we're doing it wrong. Awesome. And they're just also, they just don't understand that you're allowed to do it wrong if you're a refugee. Yeah. You're just, that's inherent in the law. You're allowed to come here before.

You don't have to stop it and be like, I'm being chased. Right. Yeah. You don't have to do that. You can just show up here. Used to be able to at least. Get in. Yep.

And then be like, cool. I was being chased. I'm sorry I ran into your house. but there was 75 dogs that were chasing me. And I ran into your house. I apologize. Is there any way that we can fix this? Right.

Yeah. I was reading something yesterday, I think, maybe the day before, that in certain courthouses, lawyers representing people being detained are being removed from the building. Now, I want to be, like, these are not lawyers, like, appointed by, these aren't government appointed lawyers.

These are people who hired their own counsel. Yeah, these are. Right? And they're saying, well, there's not enough room in here. You can't be in here. Nice. So if you don't have, and the courts for years have been incredibly clear that everybody going through the system has a right to counsel. They have a right to an attorney. It doesn't, the right to an attorney is not only for citizens. That's been held by some of the most conservative Supreme Court justices and upheld by some of the most liberal. That is like a bedrock American foundational thing because, again, it's that.

ability to access the due process because it's like if they say like well you're here illegally and I don't have an opportunity to say you're wrong I'm actually here perfectly legally if we can't have a back and forth where I get to engage the legal process then everybody you

point to you get to send to a fucking gulag in Sudan and that's the fucking point our life shall not be sweated from birth until life closes, hearts starve as well as bodies, bread and roses, bread and rose. Congratulations, all right.

This story is from 12 on your side news. Day one, Governor Spanberger ends Virginia's ICE collaboration day one. Day fucking one. She's just like, yeah, no. And it was sweeping, writing in different executive orders to not. not collaborate and not work with ice. And all across the entire state, basically cut off the entire collaboration

between the two entities. And I think this is a great model that other places should be able to follow. And this to me too, what I'm seeing now, I don't know if you're seeing this, you're not as online as I am, but I saw a video yesterday, someone who posted a TikTok video,

somewhere of this person saying they start the thing out and they said people are asking me if I regret my vote for Jill Stein this last election. No, I don't because I think that both sides would have been just as bad. I don't think that. And here's the thing. What I'm seeing more of now, now that we're starting to get into closer to midterms, I'm starting to see a whole lot more of these videos of people saying, both sides are just as bad. Oh, both sides are the same thing. Oh, both sides are, you know, if we would have had Kamala Harris in there, it would be just as bad for all these immigrants. What the fuck? It's absolutely the stupidest fucking human beings that ever created or were ever created.

Or they're agitators. They're genuinely people who don't believe that, because you can't tell me with a straight face that this would be the same thing, that we would be in the same situation. I recognize that there are times that the government, doesn't do the things it should be doing to be as far left as it should. I get that. I understand that. But you can't look me in the face and tell me that all the things that have happened in the last year are good collateral damage for the ways in which most people didn't participate in the electoral process last time

to try to break the system. And what I notice more than anything is people from other countries will pipe in on our system and be like, oh, it should just break. Oh, it should, I remember a while back there was some fuckface in fucking Australia sent us a message to be like, yeah, I hope it all breaks down. I hope it all burns down. I hope you burn an entire system down because you need to come to the left. They're like, fuck you, dude. I live here. Right. And I'm not even a vulnerable person, right? You're basically saying, fuck all those vulnerable people. They deserve to live in a hellhole. Yep. This to me proves there is a hundred percent difference between the two things.

You know, that argument that you're making is, well, you know, we'd be the same thing. If it's a Republican or a Democrat, it doesn't matter. What the fuck is this then? Yeah. How is this different than what was just fucking happening in that state? You can tell it, I mean, it's fucking empirical. You can just look at it and know it is totally a different thing between these two things, between Democrats and Republican.

They are going to come out of the woodwork for the next 11 months. Yeah. They're going to be all over the place, digging themselves in. saying how bad the Democrats are. We need to flush those people away. I do agree. We need to get corporateist Democrats out of the House. Sure.

We absolutely do. I agree. But I'm going to tell you right now, there's no fucking way in hell. I would encourage anybody not to participate in the electoral process just because it doesn't do all the things I want to do right now.

Yeah. This is there is no world that you can look at where you say, everything is equal, everything's one to one. If we had had Kamala Harrison, then, you know, like, we would definitely be in the same position that we're in now.

That's a fucking insane take on the world. If that's your take on the world, your right to vote should be stripped from you. It's either that or you're just like, you're somebody who's getting paid money to say that. Or you're just like, maybe you're a fucking liar, right? You could be a liar, but you could also be somebody, I mean, at this point, I don't,

you're a liar for money, right? At this point, I don't, I don't even believe that you could be that stupid without financial backing. You know what I mean? I feel like you're a paid agitator. I think you're probably a paid agitator with foreign money. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, it's almost certainly foreign money that's paying you to make that.

Because I can't believe you think that's true. And like, you know, I was thinking like if all of this immigration crackdown were really anything other than a political crackdown, they would be in Texas. They would be in Florida. They would be rating like the Tyson chicken processing plan. right? Like look at the places, don't even look so much the place where ICE is. Look at the places where they are less active.

Right? Why is ICE in Minneapolis, Minnesota? There's not a huge immigrant population in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The governor is Tim Walls. That's why ICE has thousands of people. Like, right? Why was ICE such a big presence in Chicago? Well, because our

governor, Pritzker, was needling fucking Trump and then making sure that he would make everything as difficult as possible. These things are happening. He's talking about sending like ice to Maine, as if Maine is a hotbed for immigration. If immigration was the thing you were trying to resolve, you'd be in Texas. You'd be in Florida. You'd be all along the coasts. You'd be in places where immigration is actually taking place in numbers where you would say, all right, if I cared about this, this is how I'd solve it. This isn't about that. This is about sending again, sending that

federalized military force into states and areas as a way of intimidating people politically. That's it. And one of the things that I think is that their argument is they'll say, well, Obama and Biden deported more people and you weren't complaining that. And you're like, yeah, well, they weren't doing it in the same way. They weren't capturing people on their way to their court date and tearing them out and sending them some worlds. They weren't sending someone who doesn't belong in a country to a prison in another country.

Yeah. To compare these things apples to apples is a lie. It's just a fucking lie. And if you believe it, you've been taken in by right wing programming or foreign programming. Right. That's the only option or stupid programming. Right. Like you, there's nothing here that if you looked at it with any kind of, if you dug behind just that tiny little saying of they deported more people and you looked into it for a half a second, you would realize how stupid you said. when you say that. But it's a real easy Republican talking point to just say that and make it seem like, oh, well, they were much more draconian. Don't get me wrong. Everybody, so many people dislike that.

And the idea that no one was against it when Obama and Biden were doing it is just not true. I was involved in the immigration movement for 12 years at the university I went to. I saw it happening week after week, regardless of who the president was. Right. So the idea that nobody's involved in it or nobody who's paying attention to it is a fucking lie.

You are a liar. Yep. But you're lying for a very specific purpose. And it's to trick you to think the systems rigged against you and nobody cares and you shouldn't either. Right. Yep. It's a discourage and disenfranchise people from engaging the system. And look at how many people stayed out this last time. And you can get those people to stay out if you trick them into thinking they're the exact same. thing. This to me is a banner story. Don't forget this. Don't forget that on day one, a governor comes in and changes the entire outlook on how they're dealing with immigration in one state. Yep. You know, why, that punish your sticker. Oh, fuck. Punish me, Daddy. And we see no part of an elite group who takes matters into his own

head. Oh, punish me. Oh, punish me. This is from NBC News. I says its officers can forcibly enter homes. during immigration operations without judicial warrants, according to a 2025 memo. The policy was revealed in a May 12th memo. May 12th, dude. This was set out by whistleblowers, and this was attention, all of ice.

All of ice. So I did some digging into this to try to help explain it, because I didn't understand the difference. So from what I was reading, generally speaking, if we have a Fourth Amendment right, we have a Fourth Amendment right. And that prohibits fucking police,

or anybody else from just busting into your fucking house and arresting you and searching your house and doing all the rest of that shit. It's just a straight up Fourth Amendment right to do it. If the police are going to do that stuff, they've got to go and apply for a warrant. And the judge has to look at it and be like, yeah, you've got a good probable cause and a good reason to do it. I'm going to sign off or not sign off on that. I said, we don't need a judicial warrant. We can use an administrative warrant. An administrative warrant is nothing. That's giving your self. permission. That doesn't come from the courts. An administrative warrant does not come from the courts.

It is literally ICE giving itself permission to go do what ICE wants to do. That's nothing. I can't read any analysis that suggests that this is anything other than just straight up a one-to-one violation of the Fourth Amendment, Cecil. Yeah, I don't. When I read through this article, I felt the same way. This is just breaking the amendments. Yeah. This is just looking. looking at the amendment to be like, this doesn't apply to us. Not it. This is something that needs to be prosecuted at the very top. The people who wrote this memo and the people who approved this stuff, they need to be

prosecuted after all this is over. This is a prosecutable offense. You've convinced an entire wing of our government that they can break the law. That shit should roll uphill. That has to, right? That has to roll uphill. It has to be that no one can do this in the future. We have to make sure that people get punished after this is over.

The two things that you have to do as somebody who runs in the future, and get this out there in the zeitgeist, man. They have to be punished. We have to punish these people. We have to punish these people very, very harshly for every rule and law they broke. And that has to be done as quickly as possible. And you have to strip as much power from the presidency as possible. Those two things have to happen or else we're just going to keep swirling down the toilet.

There's no way to fix this. There's no way to write this ship if you don't fix those two things. You have to punish. people for the misdeeds. They can't just get away with it because then that means anybody in the future can get away with misdeeds. Yeah, man. And like, if this, I have to feel like this has to make its way up to the Supreme Court.

Right? And if it gets its way up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court were to ratify this, if the Supreme Court were to say. How can you? I mean, it's literally, I mean, all I have to do is if I'm defending this, I just walk in with the Constitution. And then every question they ask, I just, read that amendment back to him. It's so straightforward. It's so straightforward. There's no charitable

intellectual reading of what's happening. I can't even find anything. Like I actually went looking specifically. I'm like maybe I don't understand these different warrant types. Maybe this is just like a paperwork issue. It's not a paperwork issue. An administrative warrant is a warrant issued by the organization to itself. ICE issues a fucking permission to itself to just violate your Fourth Amendment right. That's just straight up not a thing. Yeah. That's just straight up not a thing. Start looking at this additively. If the government can send its fucking shock troops into your home to kick your door down and then demand to see your papers and it doesn't matter what you produce because they can always just arrest you and strip you of your due process rights and then fucking ship you off into whatever concentration camp they want, be it here on American soil or on some foreign soil. What the fuck? Like show me where that's not.

a box car. Tell me how that's different. I can't understand how that's different. This is brown shirt shit, man. What's insane is this is May of last year. So they've had this ability and they've been using this, this method since May of last year and somebody finally is a whistleblower. God, thank goodness for people who are actually have some sort of conscience that are doing some of this work that are being whistleblowers in our country. Because could you imagine all the things they can get away with if they 100% controlled all the eyes and ears in that place? Oh, it, you mean, like, think about all the stuff that you could do. I'm glad that whistleblowers are coming forward because, man, that at least keeps them on their game a little.

It keeps them away from doing all the shit that they want to do because they think, man, somebody might catch me doing this. Yeah. And like, being caught should be something, to your previous point, being caught should be something everybody has to become afraid of. Right now, nobody's afraid to get caught. cares. Nobody cares at all these people are doing all. They are literally disregarding when judges tell them do stuff. They don't care. There needs to be some serious repercussions for all these people that

break the law. You can't like that nobody's above the law stuff was coming out in his first term. And it really should show you no one. And we saw it not take place when he wasn't in office. Right. No one above is above the law. Basically, he was above the law the entire time he was above the law. the entire time he was above the law. Today, we're recording today, but Jack Smith is getting grilled by the Senate committee today or the House committee today. They're asking him a bunch of questions, accusing him of misdeeds, accusing him of being biased, accusing him of trying to silence the president, the previous president while he was running for office. Even though he had stacks of crimes that he did. Yep.

Even though there was absolute reason to look into every one of those things he did as a. crying. Yeah. And we're, if we destroy our own internal oversight mechanisms, how much of a gift is that? That's just, again, it's dictatorial control. Yeah. All right, that's going to wrap it up for this week. We're going to be back on Thursday with a funny show for patrons,

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