Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 903: War in Iran and the Texas Primary

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism and irreverence to any topic that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome. Matt. Today is Thursday, March the 5th. And let's think, what happened since we last recorded last week? Oh, we're now at war with Iran. Yeah. I mean, is it
Starting point is 00:02:03 a war, though? Can you say that? Are you allowed to? Because sometimes you say it, and then sometimes you take it back. It is... Sometimes it feels like a war. Sometimes it's not... It's only a war if it comes from the sparkling war region of France. Otherwise... Otherwise, just a sparkling
Starting point is 00:02:19 hostilities. Yeah, it's a sparkling bombing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what I saw was us definitively attack Iran. Oh, my. Yeah. Blow up ships, attack a school.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah. You know, that's been reported. Right. Like, from multiple different sources that there was a school that blew up that we killed a bunch of people. Although the administration I saw yesterday was essentially, not denying it, but saying, we're looking into it, but we know that there's a lot of propaganda that gets spread during wars. So we're not sure whether it's. it's true or not, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:02:54 So again, you're fighting against, you know, it's so funny to fight against your own propaganda machine. Right. Yeah. So there's been that that's happened. And then when I'm talking about it, Rubio called it a war. Rubio called another senator called it a war. And then when they were asked again, they had to roll it back.
Starting point is 00:03:12 At one point, Rubio said out loud that the reason we did it is because Israel was going to attack him first and we wanted to do it first. And then later they're like, is that? what you say, he's like, no, I didn't say that. And it's literally on tape. The messaging has been fucking insane on this whole thing. It's insanity, dude. Because, like, really, there was very little messaging out to the public in the lead up to this war. And it is a war. Like, it's a war. And, like, Congress is supposed to get a say in whether or not we do that. But they've absolutely abdicated their responsibility. They tried to get a vote yesterday and failed.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And they failed to get a vote for war resolution powers. That's in the Senate. I don't, the House is today. but I have no idea. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Right. Because it's not going to go anywhere in the Senate. Right. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So essentially now what we have is a president who has complete carte blanche to just launch a, and this is not, like, for a long time presidents have exercised some amount of unilateral authority for like limited like missions or like limited strike operations, things along those lines. But this is a full out war. That's what's happening. Straight up. You know, like, like Rubio said, like Rubio did say, he's like, yeah, basically Israel forced our hand into doing this. But then Trump can't allow that to be the narratives.
Starting point is 00:04:33 He's like, oh, no, if anything, I forced Israel's hand into doing it is what he came back with. He's like, I can't let, we're certainly leading, not following. When it comes to bloodthirsty countries, we are the most. We are the bloodthirstiest. Look, I have, I do have a lot of thoughts about, about the, I. Iranian thing. And let me let me just throw a few things out there for consideration. I think it's entire, I've been wrestling with this since, really since the buildup. I've been thinking about it since the buildup. I think you could hold several ideas in your head at once at all times and they can
Starting point is 00:05:09 all be true. And I think we have to do that in this case. The binary of this war is good or this war is bad is kind of the wrong way to look at really complicated issues like war. Most of the time, not always, like some wars were just illegitimate, but like most of the time it's fairly complicated. I think you can very comfortably say it is unreasonable to be a fan of the Iranian regime as it stood, right? Of course. They were horrifying to their people. They were state sponsors of terrorism all over the world. They massacred their civilians by the thousands in recent protests.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Very recent, yeah. They have a history of human rights abuses, abuses against women. They are a nightmare regime. Women are human, I'm just saying. Yeah, but that's specifically against women. Thank you, thank you. They're a nightmare. No, no, no, they're a fucking nightmare.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And all of that can be true while at the same time saying, one, I don't trust specifically this administration to have planned this because they obviously didn't plan it. How could you, though? To prosecute it reasonably. Yeah. in their past where you thought these are the guys I want behind the wheel. No.
Starting point is 00:06:25 For anything. For anything, man. I wouldn't. If the, if the mission was like, hey, we're going to go to Burger King and get chicken fries, I'd be like, not with these guys. I wouldn't give them sharp scissors to cut a ribbon. Dude, is there a world where, right? The safety preschool scissors.
Starting point is 00:06:44 There's, no. I would have an adult cut it for them. Can you imagine giving Hedge Seth a hot glue gun? are you kidding me he just glues the can of a beer to his hand pouring it in there so so while I think it's okay to say like look I
Starting point is 00:07:01 generally speaking I do think that the regime as it stood in Iran was a real problem that was difficult and thorny and complicated to think about and to try to figure out how to contain and you can have a reasonable argument about like what containment should look like and whether it should involve force.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But I think there's no argument to be made, none at all that I can understand, that would say this administration had a right to do it. Yeah. That they had a legal right to do it. They didn't have a moral right. We didn't have a legal right. We didn't have a defense right to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I don't think that it's reasonable. I don't think there's any world we can say, they're going to do a good job. They are not going to do a good job. Trump said, like, when he was asked, like, hey, who's going to take charge? You blew up all the guys in charge. He's like, well, the second set of guys,
Starting point is 00:07:49 we're going to talk to. We blew those guys up too. I guess we'll talk to the third set if they're still alive. And then he's like asked like what's the worst case scenario? He's like, well, you know, it's entirely possible. There'll be even worse guys in charge when we're done with this. There's no planning. There's no foresight. It's a massive country. Massive giant country.
Starting point is 00:08:07 The most powerful country outside Israel militarily in the Middle East. And like no fucking planning, no long-term gain. No like we should have already been working with like a political opposition force if we were going to kill, if we're going to knock out the regime, it's not just like you say like, all right, well, who wants to be the commerce secretary? Raise your hand. Sure. That's not how any of this works.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So I don't. It's like going, it's like going to buy a car by yourself in your own car. Yes, right. And then being like, well, I don't know how to get it home. Right. Well, I don't know. And then you're stuck. And then you got to go back and bring the fox back across the house.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Then you've got to set the grain down. And there's a whole thing. Yeah, you're 100% right, Tom. There's not, I agree that, sure, was it a despotic, terrible regime? Of course it was. Like, it was terrible. But what I think I see, and again, I can't tell the fucking motivations of this group. There's one of two motivations.
Starting point is 00:09:08 The first one is, is like, do whatever Israel says. That seems to be pretty much what we're seeing in this administration is. What Israel says to do, you pretty much get to do that. Oh, we're going to put. guys out on the, we're going to shoot a bunch of shit down. We're going to, you know, this fucking Lord of War that we got back there is going to be like, I'm going to kill everything. That guy's fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So that dude, sure, all you have to do is unleash that guy. And on what they want is they want somebody here who's going to basically, Israel wants people who will listen to him and do their bidding. And that's what we're doing. Look, man, this is 100% doing the bidding of another country. Yeah, man. That being said, there's another part of me that wonders if what Trump is, you know, is doing is looking around the world for unpopular leaders that are that are currently hurting
Starting point is 00:09:55 the people that are in their country to topple without any plan to fix anything afterwards just so he could possibly be named as a as a peace prize guy later on. Yeah, look, I don't think that's wrong at all. I think that he has set his sights on three countries and he wants to have a legacy name as the guy who tackled the three biggest problems that, and it was Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran. He's got no... He's mentioned for Iran the Venezuelan model, which is you go in, you take out the leadership, and then the sort of secondary leadership in the case of Venezuela, the vice president of the previous administration, just takes over. And he's like, that's a good model,
Starting point is 00:10:38 except for that model doesn't make sense in Iran. It never made sense. Like, there's no analysis that you can possibly read where that makes any sense whatsoever. Because, like, what you will do is replace a hardline Islamic cleric with possibly even a harder line Islamic cleric. They're literally likely to name the Ayatollah Ali Khomeini's son who is by all accounts at least as hardline, if not more. And he's swall. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:11:10 He's like young and swall and angry. Right. He's not 86. We did the same thing, by the way, in Texas with Crenshaw. We took Crenshaw out. We took Crenshaw out. And it's like the guy is even crazier than Crenshaw. He's like a psychopath, crazy right guy.
Starting point is 00:11:29 How is that even a possibility? The third farthest right person in Texas. They like pulled everybody. They were like, everybody get a line. We'll take that guy. And they're like, go to the far back. And we'll take one, two, three, it's you. And it's that guy.
Starting point is 00:11:42 That's what we did here. So they're doing it over there. Like, yeah, no, what we want is hard right guys. Hard right guys are good for this, Rishi. It's a fucking mess. It's a site. He's not. Now we're like fucking Hegsteth had like almost a visible boner behind the podium when he's
Starting point is 00:11:57 talking about blowing up a Iranian warship with a torpedo for the first time since World War II. Like you could hear his fucking dick hit wood from behind that poem. He's gleeful. He thinks this is great. He's a monster. He's a shitty, awful human being. And look at how he talks to people who are asking legitimate questions. He's just like, oh, that's a gotcha question.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's like, no, that's like an actual question with data that I need to know the answer to. Dude, a gotcha question isn't a question you don't like because you don't have an answer for it. Yeah. You know, you don't want to answer. Right. Yeah. Like if my boss calls me up and I'm like, I just don't know the answer, man. That's not a gotcha.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah. I was not prepared. Shame on me. They had a closed door briefing with some of the top Democrats and they were just horrified after they learned that they literally have no plan. And then they came out of the room and they're like, guys, they got no plan. Yeah. Guys, they don't have a plan. And here's how you, maybe the Democrats are lying, Tom.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Maybe it's a big lie. Maybe. You know what you need to do as a Republican then? Tell us your plan. Tell us the plan, Stan. And then they didn't. And then they didn't. And then you're just like, yeah, no, I think the only people you can believe in this are the Democrats saying they don't have a plan and that it's essentially just going to be a forever one. Maybe he's got concepts of a plan. It's going to take him as long to roll out his health care. I've got rudiments of a concept of the preface for a plan.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's so insane. There's also in the same vein from Fox News, basically, I'm not going to read the, I'll read the headline here. It says Trump threatens to cut trade with Spain over Iran defense spending. But it's really over Spain not letting us land there. bomb shit. And he got so mad in the briefing. He's like, well, we're just going to call off trade with them. And you're like, that's $47 billion with the trade. And he's like, yeah, I don't care. It's all Iberical ham too. It's all 47 billion dollars of ham. I would jump into
Starting point is 00:14:00 $47 billion of Ibarical ham like Scrooge McDuck. It's just, it's just what it is, is a guy who has literally no limits in office doing literally anything he wants. There's never any repercussions. This is what Congress has sort of filtered away and, like, evaporated their power up for years and years and years. And the Supreme Court has basically emboldened with a decision. This is the, this is what you get. This is the Frankenstein monster of a president that you get when you do those two things in conjunction. Yeah, man. There's a lightning strike from the fucking Congress.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And then the, like, the Supreme Court. it's all standing around chids like, it's alive. And it stands up. You got a white streak in your hair now. It's the whole thing. It's Donald Trump. It's a whole thing. It's Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And he's even got on his neck, the studs are starting, the studs are starting to come through the skin from underneath. Holy necrotic Batman. What the fuck is that? It's so funny because I saw a question asked to, to that lady with the puckery lips. They said,
Starting point is 00:15:13 hey, what's going on with the fucking dude's neck? And she said, we told you yesterday that it's going away. So it's just the doctor said it's just a topical cream. And they're like, yeah, but what's the topical cream treating? And they're like, it's preventative. And they're like preventative for what? And they won't answer the question.
Starting point is 00:15:32 There's not like a preventative cream that you smear that causes all your skin to fucking flake off and turn red and die. He looks horrible. I just like every day you're just hoping for one of the maladies that is keeping his body in that fragile equilibrium. Clops and prayers. man, clots in prayers. I will say this too.
Starting point is 00:15:52 If you were some guy who has always thought that Trump was nothing more than a fucking easy tool for Russia to use and you wanted to take a lens and say hey, how does this impact Russia? And you said, well, I mean, the Strait of Hormuz is going to close
Starting point is 00:16:13 and that's going to choke off one fifth of the world's oil supply and that will inevitably. cause Russia's oil to become much more valuable at a time that their economy is in real, real trouble right now because they've got to feed this enormous war machine. And then also it's going to make America and its allies run lower on these interceptor missiles, which are millions of dollars trying to fight these very inexpensive drones and other missiles, which will degrade Ukraine's capacity to fight and defend itself against Russia. You might actually think, Cecil, if you were inclined.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I just want to say that they wrote a strongly worded letter that they were upset. Yeah, okay. There you go. That's a key. Like, this is so good for Russia. If you're Russia right now, you're like, eh, idiot. We are in a time, though, where, like, don't expect this to be the thing that's going to be in the news in the next few weeks because some new fresh hell will take its place. Oh, God. Yeah. I'm really genuinely worried that this will be different, only in scales of being much worse than Iraq.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I think it will, I really, I think we'll have boots on the ground in a few weeks, like combat troops and boots on the ground in a few weeks. I would be shocked, actually, if that were not the case. And like these power vacuums open up nothing but room for terrorism and chaos and ISIS. I mean, the whole ISIS caliphate only happened because we just created a massive power vacuum through our military adventuring. You're not wrong. I don't see an upside
Starting point is 00:17:48 with these guys in charge specifically with no planning and no foresight and no opposition leadership ready to step in and take control. Nobody is articulating how this could go well. I would say too, the other big issue is that people are making a big deal and publishing images of, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:12 emails or people complaining about Trump. But I haven't seen much of his base really flip on him. If it did, you would see a different result in the Senate, right? If his base really was changing their stripes and saying, hey, you can't just go to work. What he ran on was no more war. I know. So, and look, all politicians lie. All politicians distort the truth.
Starting point is 00:18:36 All politicians fail to meet the promises that they plan ahead of time. That happens all the time. Right. 100%. I get it. I don't like, I mean, I thought everything that he promised to do was terrifying. So anything he falls short on, great. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But this was one of the things that I actually agreed with. I was like, yeah, man, I don't want to go to New Wars either. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to wasting taxpayer money on places across the globe that we're not prepared to do the hard work to help fix. We proved that in Afghanistan. We weren't prepared at all to stay there. do any hard work to help fix. What we wanted to do was go over there because we were mad about 9-11 and then we got
Starting point is 00:19:18 stuck over there because we were like, well, if we pull out, it's going to fall apart. And then eventually we were just like, well, just get rid of the band-aid. That's the entirety of our time in Afghanistan, right? We didn't have ever have a plan. We never really did anything. It basically fell apart. It basically fell back to exactly who was holding it before
Starting point is 00:19:34 we went over there. Within a day. It fell back exactly to those people. So we knew what was going to happen. You knew it was going to be there. And you were fighting them for 20 years over there. You were fighting them all the time. There was always, so like, it's a terrible call to do it without any plans. And we never have plans.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Never. So bad idea. A bunch of wasted money, I agree. But at the same time, if it was something that the people on his side cared about enough, there would be a pushback. And I'm not seeing it at least politically. You might see somebody's leopards ate my face, about their kid going to war now on a ship or something.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But other than that, you're not seeing real pushback against this in like substantive ways that could slow his power down. That's not a thing you're seeing. So it essentially doesn't matter. It might as well not even exist if it doesn't slow his power down at all. I was watching Marjorie Taylor Green absolutely go off on this. I mean, she fucking went off on it. It was actually a really funny, like, React video because she went off.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And, like, of course, I'm like, fucking, am I agreeing with Marjorie Taylor Green? And the joke of it was like, no, Marjorie Taylor Green agrees with me. I agreed first, you know, because I don't want to be more agreeing. But, like, one thing that I think is, like, really worth pointing out, I realized when I was watching this yesterday, is that Marjorie Taylor Green, who I have no love for at all. But she has been exactly perfectly consistent all the way through. And the reason that she has suddenly finds herself on the outs with the MAGA base and the MAGA movement and all the other MAGA politicians is the rest of them. She was like, here are my key issues. There are the MAGA issues.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And she has a straight line inflexible on all of them. And all the rest of them are like, well, MAGA is really whatever Trump wants to do. What he wants to do today? So we never had any principles. We never really believed any of these things. None of this stuff was important. So whatever he says is now the new thing. Like, however he wants to ram his dick down my throat was always the way I wanted him to ram his dick down my throat.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And so I just think she's like, well, but this is what you said. And it's like, yeah, I guess welcome Marjorie. Like, do you want to come over here? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You're horrible. Stay over there. Stay over there and just vote right one time in your life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA.
Starting point is 00:23:03 However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be,
Starting point is 00:23:33 and where it was. It is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error. All right, this story is from CNN. Takeaways from Christy Nome's combative Senate Judiciary Committee here. She had a House one yesterday,
Starting point is 00:23:48 and that one came out. There's a bunch of stuff that came out in that, too. They asked her very specifically if she was having sex with one of the people who was closest to her, and she wouldn't answer the question. She said it was a tabloid question. And like, well, then just answer it.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Just say, if the answer is no. The answer is no. Just say no. Right. She wouldn't answer the question. So she pushed him and whatever back and forth on that. But I think the biggest takeaway from this thing, obviously she, the one takeaway I have is she says something like they asked her, they said, you called Alex Preti a domestic terrorist. And then she corrected them and said, no, I said it was an act of domestic terrorism.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And they said, and nobody said, well, who commits acts of domestic terrorists? Right? Would it be perhaps a domestic terrorist? Yeah. You don't, it's not like I'm, it's not like I'm accidentally tying my shoe. Right. And then I, and then I murder somebody who's, you know, that's not how this works. You have to, you have to commit that. So it's just a crazy thing to think.
Starting point is 00:24:51 But nobody calls around it, right? So she, that was one of the big things. But the biggest thing for me is just the amount of money that they were spending on these ads. And there's another story, well, cover two, $220 million. And one of it was like a hundred, one, one bit of that money was 140 some million that went directly to a corporation that was started 11 days before that it's highly tied to Nome. So she's essentially taking money, lots of money.
Starting point is 00:25:20 We're talking about millions and millions of dollars. Yes. And siphoning it to people who she knows or whatever. And they're, they're making like fucking viral like videos for her. And not a lot either. No. Something like eight videos and a few radio spots for $140 million. And it was a company that was just created a few days before.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Like two weeks prior, less than two weeks prior. What I hear a lot and I, so I listen to Joe Rogan for the No Rogan experience with Michael Marshall, right? So we spend a lot of time listening to Joe Rogan. On that show, what Joe has seized on recently, whenever he talks, about anything that's happening in our country. And especially when there's ever any governmental overreach in certain areas, what he will talk about is,
Starting point is 00:26:09 well, they were trying to go after all the fraud. And the places where he says that there were fraud is the people who came in and told him about the fraud. So Mike Benz came in and told him about the fraud that was happening with USAID. So he came in and he had a big list of all the fraud that was happening. We found out later that none of that stuff was really true. Elon wasted more money than he fucking actually saved anybody.
Starting point is 00:26:31 The stuff they cut was actually stuff that helps people all around the globe, but instead we just cut it because we were just mean and angry and shitty. And we wanted to pretend that there was some sort of fraud. Joe doesn't realize that Joe thinks there was actually fraud. The other fraud that they talk about all the time is the Minnesota fraud. So they say there was fraud in Minnesota, which is why the people, the ICE agents, were up there. And then there was now Joe thinks there was coordinated protests by the government to go after.
Starting point is 00:27:01 the ICE agents to help protect them because they had fraud. It's a crazy it's insanity what he believed. It's insanity what he believes. So just I mean, let's listen to the Rand Paul episode if you're interested. You can hear him sort of put all these pieces together. But he's, and also to listen to the Andrew Wilson episode, he talks about it because that's
Starting point is 00:27:19 one after Alex Pready, after Alex Pretty died. What do you think Joe Rogan's budget is for pushpins and strength? It's got to be very hot, right? He's got a staples card. The final piece of fraud that he's that he most recently found out about a net will, again, become part of his vernacular, is RFK came in and had a conversation with him about all the fraud that they're stopping, right? So they're stopping a ton of fraud.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They're saying through medical devices, there's these countries that were pretending to be Medicare eligible and they would just collect all the money that was being sent to them and send it off to different countries, essentially. So that's what he said is happening. Joe, 100% believes it and thinks it's true. The problem is what they're doing is they're saying all this fraud exists out in the world. There's a bunch of fraud. And what they're doing is instead of dealing with the fraud and saying, hey, you know what, we need better checks in place to fix and make sure that this fraud doesn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:18 What they're doing is just turning off the spigot. Right. Right. So for them to fix the fraud is no more USAID money. It's gone. To fix the fraud in Minnesota, we're just going to withhold all funds from Minnesota. We're not going to give them. That'll fix it.
Starting point is 00:28:31 That's the right call. And the same thing is going to happen with Medicare and Medicaid. They're going to say there's so much fraud. We're just going to turn the spigot off. So when people lose coverage all across the nation, they're just creating a cover story for this right now. What they're doing is they're saying, well, there's all this fraud, and we just don't want all the money going to fraud.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And that's why you're losing coverage. You're losing coverage because we're going to take that coverage from you because we just can't trust that people can actually use this money correctly. And you understand you don't want fraud, right? So we just don't want to, we're just not going to give you anything because there are fraudsters out there. Now, if you said that to anybody in any other situation, that's a crazy thing to say out loud. That'd be like your bank being like, we don't want to give you your money because someone committed fraud against our bank. Like, that's a stupid thing to think.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Nowhere else would that work. It only works here. I took a look the other day at my electric bill and I discovered that I had an old refrigerator, which is using too much electricity. So I burned my house down. because that way the refrigerator wouldn't use too much electricity. It's essentially the same thing. It's essentially the same thing. But it's a long way to say every single accusation is a confession.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That's a long way to say that. Right. Like they've been going on about fraud for weeks, months, at this point a year. And what really is happening is that this group of people is siphoning as much money out of the government as they possibly can while pointing at others and being like, you don't want that guy to do any fraud, do you? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:29:59 The grift is coming. coming from inside the house. Like Trump has enriched himself with his fucking like meme coin bullshit and other stuff. Trump himself like his net worth since he's been president has gone up billions. His family's net worth has increased dramatically. Christy Noem clearly is enriching himself. Cash Patel is like fucking living the frat boy party boy lifestyle flying himself around on the fucking company jet. The company being America.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. spraying half a beer like fucking hockey players so they can rub themselves down together in the locker room or whatever he's into. Like this is the most corrupt.
Starting point is 00:30:37 The only other administration that was even close to this corrupt was Trump's first administration. Yeah, the first one. Yeah. Like when he hired his whole family, it was like, my kids, then my kids,
Starting point is 00:30:49 fucking weird, uncanny valley's son-in-law thing over there. They're the ones in charge. They're going to do all the work. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. But Christine Ome is a genuinely bad at her job.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Like she's just not good at her job. And they're asking her questions that she should know. And she just doesn't know them. And the problem is there's no will to get rid of her. Yeah. And she has no, when I read this, one of the things that struck me and like made me so mad is that she retreats into bullshit when she lies
Starting point is 00:31:20 in a way that should just be entirely unacceptable where she'll just be like, well, I was repeating what I heard. And it's like, you can't do. that. You don't get like with the domestic terrorism thing. She's like, well, you know, I was, I was relaying what I was told from agents on the ground. It's like, you have a fucking big ass megaphone and a responsibility. And you're telling America, fucking, you're telling America that an act of domestic terrorism occurred. That's a big deal. You don't get to do that on vibes. Yeah. You don't. And you don't get to say, well, I did it on vibes. So you can't be mad at me. Yeah. If you do a bad job,
Starting point is 00:31:57 I get to be mad at you for it. You should be fired for doing a bad job. It's not a retreat to say, well, I was just repeating something you said. Well, don't do that, asshole. But this whole, this whole administration, they have that ability to not be accountable for anything they do. I mean, look at Trump a couple weeks ago posts an image of the Obama's as monkeys. Yeah. And nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Nothing. Literally nothing happened, guys. the worst thing that happened was Al Green held up a sign during the state of the union. That was it, guys. That's the extent of any kind of inquiry into this. That's it. You know, now that you say that, didn't Trump, tell me if I remember this right, didn't he also say that a staffer posted it?
Starting point is 00:32:43 And then nobody said, what staffer? And then they're like, okay, well, are they out of a job now? Right. And then there's nothing. Right. And the thing is, is there's so much shit that you'll never ask that question again. So they only have to deal with the question. time because there's so much tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:32:58 They found out that there's no teeth for any of the wrongdoing that you can do as an official in this country. They found that out. They found that out. They realized there's no... It's like when you're in a video game and you realize if you stand in this corner, there's no way
Starting point is 00:33:14 the creature can hit you and you could just fucking wallop it all you want and it'll die and the next one comes and you'll wallop it, you die and you collect its fucking coins or its rings or its fucking keys or whatever. You can do whatever you want. You're essentially a mute. And that's what they do. They figured out they were immune.
Starting point is 00:33:28 They're like, nobody can hurt me. Nobody can do anything. Nobody can change anything I do. When I do it, when I make a decision, even if the courts say I can't do it, I'm just like, fuck you, what are you going to do about it? And it's nothing. The answer is nothing. We need somebody to go in and change all that.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And it has to be done immediately. Because if not, you just basically have a system where anybody who gets in power is now the person in power and they can't be touched. Yeah. And we'll see. We will see because at some point there will be a Democratic administration and power. And I'm very curious to know how the Republicans, like what they're squawking will be. Because they're fucking jerking off all over this every day.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah. I mean, and the thing is, like, you can only feel some sort of internal pressure from hypocrisy when you have a conscience. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the real issue is that they don't give a fuck when you. you point out that they're hypocrites. I mean, look at Mitch McConnell laughed at people when they pointed out his hypocrisy of appointing some, waiting to appoint someone and then appointing someone in six weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:36 He laughed at it. Yeah. He was like, I don't fucking care. I'll do what I want. Fuck you. I'm busy rotting. And then he went and rotted for a little bit. But he didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And there's nothing you could do to shame that. He has no shame. Right? Like you have to have the tiniest amount of shame. for me to kindle that fire. Because if you just are fucking dead inside, you're just like, I don't care, I will kill everyone and suck the marrow from their bones.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Exterminate. It's a desolate, ugly little planet with absolutely no natural resources or strategic value. Questions? Why is this godforsaken planet worth dying for? Don't ask me, you're the one who's going to be dying. All right, New York Times.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Tellerico triumphs as GOP heads to run off six takeaways from Texas. So this was a big, big race, James Tellerico versus Jasmine Crockett. Yeah. It was really a race in many ways. From what I read, it was a race less of policy substance and
Starting point is 00:35:39 a lot more of tone. Which one was Texas going to embrace? Tellerico, very much the softer, more let's work together, hands across America kind of tone. And that's how he ran on it. I listened to, so he we did a bonus show about him for
Starting point is 00:35:55 Joe Rogan, the Joe Rogan show, because he was on Joe Rogan. So for one of the bonus shows for the other show, we did a bonus show. Because there's nothing there to, like, make a whole episode because it's really just Joe listening to him talk. So there's nothing there. I can't spend a whole episode being like, here's where the argument is wrong. There's nothing there. But it was an interesting conversation.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And what really you learn from him is that he had to, in his position, learn to reach across the aisle to at least find things that other people might care about on the other side to try to create laws because there's just no power if you're just going only democratic votes down. There's just no power in that seat. So his whole plan was to be like, well, as a senator, we have to do this, you know, that we have to reach across the aisle to try to do bipartisan laws and things like that in order for a bunch of people to like them, et cetera, et cetera. Great, if you can get it to work.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I don't think you can. I think the system's too far broken. for that sort of thing to work. But it's my hope that that doesn't soften his approach if he does get elected to letting people walk over you and then never return anything, right? That's my hope. The problem is what these guys who are across the middle,
Starting point is 00:37:08 is they're like, yeah, I'll work with you. And then when it comes time to do the, you know, the reach around, they're half asleep. You're like, go, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. So there's a real problem there. think, like, what I really like about Crockett, was her perspective, and I thought that she was a great voice. She held people's feet to the fire when she interviewed them. I thought she was a real
Starting point is 00:37:34 good candidate. I'm not down there. I don't vote in that race. So I don't know the ins and outs. It seemed like a pretty amicable race, though. It didn't seem like it was really, really contentious. Crazy that Paxon made it to the second round. Dude, I know. What the fuck. That guy's a scumbad. That guy's the worst. He's the fucking worst. The other guy's not great either. The other guy's not good either. But they're both trash.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But, you know, I guess if they were in a trash fire, which garbage bag lights on fire first. They are in the Republican Party, so I don't see any difference. But one thing that is interesting is the turnouts. So if you look at the numbers behind this, the numbers for the Democrats that came out to vote in the primary was more than came out to vote in the Republicans. So that doesn't mean anything. It's an open primary. So it could be that Republicans cross the aisle to make a decision to be like, well, I'd much rather face Tala Rico than I would crock it. So I'm going to vote in this.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I did the same thing. I voted for Romney in the primary. I voted the Republican primary in 2012 very specifically because, was it 12? 12, I think, yeah. I voted for him very specifically because I said, you know what, I'm not interested in anybody else, whoever else was running. and I think I, or maybe I might have voted against him. I don't remember. I remember voting in one of them.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I don't remember who it was. Now I think about it. It could have been, but it was a strategic vote. It was a strategic vote because I knew that I, that Obama was already in there. Right. And I voted for either him or it was somebody else. It was crazy or I don't remember. But in any case, I did do it once when we, because we have open primaries here in our state.
Starting point is 00:39:13 So open primaries for us means you could just walk in and be like, I'm a got. And what happens is, is you have to be registered. I think you have to be registered. when there's closed primaries. But what open primaries do is they allow for more independent voters to come out and vote in these things. And that also allows them to
Starting point is 00:39:32 maybe have more of a voice and who gets to move forward. Open primaries help that happen. Should they just always be open primaries? It should be ranked choice voting as well. That's very true. But in any case, there was multiple times
Starting point is 00:39:46 that I looked at the number of votes, though, that were happening in the Democrat and the Republican primaries when they happen, because sometimes it's, the other side is like, we're just going to lose anyway, so nobody's contesting it. So the Democrat might run and it won't matter because the Republican is the one that is going to win the seat anyway, but they'll just nominate a Republican, a Democrat, and they'll be the one who wins.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But there was several times I saw, I was like, wow, a lot more Democrats came out there. That's interesting. So, and it looked like in a couple of places, there was more Democrats voting in certain blocks in Texas and in North Carolina, too. so it could be a good thing. You're seeing a big turnout at least now. Hopefully that continues. I think that there was a lot of inertia
Starting point is 00:40:31 that may be now that things are as bad as everybody said they would be. You know, there's so many people that were like, ah, you're all exaggerating. This Trump derangement syndrome, you're all exaggerating. It won't be that bad. And now it's clearly it's that bad. It's that bad. It's actually worse than we thought.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, it's way worse than we thought. And we knew he's going to do it because he had, they had written it out for him in a document called Projects 2020. So we knew it was going to fucking. I admit. I didn't see the Venezuelan Iran things coming. I did not, you know, that was not on my bingo card. And I don't know that that was explicitly, because I don't know that I remember seeing like take over other parts of the globe or any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:12 But I think like Trump is a chaos agent. So he's going to find ways to which he's going to morph it to himself. He's going to figure out a way to make project 2025 worse somehow. Right, yeah. Right, yeah. Yeah, those bears appear to have guns and motorcycles. We believe they may be involved in some sort of intergalactic drug cartel, perhaps affiliated with one of the interstellar wizard alliances.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Wizard alliances? Yes, next question. Just a thought, more of a shot in the dark, but you wouldn't happen to be invading Iran today, would we? You got me. I felt for it. You almost got away with that one. No, I went too far.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I almost had it. I should have stopped after the slides. I knew I should have stopped that. I didn't think anything about it until the cartel thing. And I was like, what? It's from CNN. Texas Supreme Court stops Dallas County from counting late votes after confusion over new rules. Expect more of this when we see what happens in the fall.
Starting point is 00:42:20 There's going to be new rules, new confusion, shit. People not being able to vote. People have to stay there too late. People leaving the line because they're, you know, it's going too slow. We saw all that stuff play out in Dallas. So one of the reasons Jasmine Crockett said that, you know, she was, there was less votes for her was because of voter suppression. And I don't disagree. I think there absolutely was voter suppression. And you know it's going to be happening in areas of color. Oh, a million percent. The, the Republican game here
Starting point is 00:42:50 has been very openly a game of voter suppression. Like, they're not, they're not even trying to hide it. Yeah. You know, like, there's, are so not trying to hide it that, I mean, think about, like, and we talked about this when it happened. So when celebrities tweeted out, like Taylor Swift tweeted out something initially before she declared, like, or her support for Kamala.
Starting point is 00:43:11 She tweeted out something or Instagrammed or whatever, something. Like, it was basically like, everybody should just go register to vote. That should be a perfectly nonpartisan, yes, we live in a democracy. Yeah, she didn't tell anybody a what to vote. Right. When, when, when, and that.
Starting point is 00:43:28 That was absolutely, like the right was like, oh my God. When the response to our citizens should vote is that is a political statement. That means that the other side does not want you to have a democratic voice. They are anti-democracy. They are intending to disenfranchise you because they know that enfranchisement is the path to their failure. For sure. And they actually want to tear down our entire system of. of government, there's no other way to read that.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah. If voting is a, it just, hey, everybody should vote. If all of a sudden that becomes political and you're on the other side of it, you are not pro-democracy. You're pro-something else. They trick the dummies by saying that it's the illegal immigrants that are voting. That's the problem. God.
Starting point is 00:44:19 This last week, Michael Marshall wrote a article that was posted in The Guardian and the article. and the article was, I listened to 170 hours of Rogan, trust me, hasn't flipped on Trump. And so that that's the article. You can find it all over the place, look at any of the socials, COG disc socials has it.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's a great article. Michael Marshall wrote it for The Guardian to talk about how Joe Rogan hasn't flipped on Trump. So in the article, Michael Marshall says, and this is something I have talked about on the show,
Starting point is 00:44:51 and he asked me to actually send him some stuff about it. But the main argument with the Great Replacement theory, as Joe sees it, which is a conspiracy theory, right, is that they are shipping in illegals, what they call illegals, to send them to places across our country,
Starting point is 00:45:08 to boost the numbers of the census to gain votes in certain portions of our country. So the blue states want illegal immigration, because if they can get it, they can ship those people to their states, then artificially boost their numbers, and then get more control in the house. Really sounds like a terrible plan.
Starting point is 00:45:26 all around. Right. And it hasn't worked out at all in the 2000 census, in the 2010 census, or the 2020 census, they lost a bunch of votes. Well, one person sent us a message and said, well, hey, genius, you know, they start, they open up the floodgates after 2020. First off, that's not been their contention. They've said that those floodgates were open the whole time. But even still, if you look at the projections for what's supposed to happen in 2030, California's going to lose four votes, Illinois's going to lose a vote, New York's going to lose a vote, a bunch of blue states are going to lose votes. Texas is going to get four and Florida is going to get four.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So that's what we're seeing happening. So the idea that they say is they're shipping them all over. Joe literally thinks this is true. He's never once looked at these numbers. He has no idea. These numbers, he's never once looked at them. But even if you just look at like, there's a guy from Carnegie Mellon who's like,
Starting point is 00:46:16 yeah, well, the way the census is playing out now, because there is sort of an exodus from blue areas to some of these red areas because they're cheaper to live in. The cost of living is way. cheaper in Arkansas than it is in Illinois. Sure. So people leave these blue areas, four red areas,
Starting point is 00:46:31 and that's what you're seeing. It's not about the number of undocumented immigrants, but they think it is. And even if it was, you're like, well, then you're the one gaining the votes. Right. Yeah. But they don't care.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So it doesn't matter to them. That's their theory, and that's the theory that they're working off of. Do they not know where people who are undocumented workers actually live? I don't think they know. I don't think that, I don't think they care.
Starting point is 00:46:58 The thing is, is that all they want to do is manipulated for other people. So the dumb people like Joe Rogan will shit out this, this thing every episode, every third episode. And he heard it from J.D. Vance. So J.D. Vance was the first person to tell him about this. And Peter Thiel programmed it in a JD Vance. Yeah. And so all these people, what they have is they all have the same message. And the message doesn't matter. If you, if you bother to look up the message, you'll find that you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Right. They just don't care because if they get somebody like Joe who won't do the extra step of looking into whether or not that message is true, he'll just believe it. He'll megaphone it. Just like, you know, RFK comes on and says there's a bunch of fraud and he just goes, oh my God, there's a bunch of fraud. Not, can you show me how the fraud works? Where is the fraud? Do you arrest the people who were involved in the fraud? Are you shutting the spigot off for the fraud? And will the people who regularly receive those benefits continue to do so? Where on the, where on the dollar is the fraud touching you? That's really what we've got to ask. It's a gut biome. It's in this gut biome, I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm sorry, is the fraud wearing jeans right now? Is it in the hot tub? I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world. But I do know that if you don't let us fuck this asshole, we are going to have our dicks and our pussies all covered in shit. The story's from Mother Jones. Gregory Bovino is now under criminal investigation. This shit happened more often.
Starting point is 00:48:29 God, I fucking love this. This dude throws a canister of gas into a crowd. He tells him, warns him ahead of time, and then he throws the gas in there. And they're not allowed to do this, right? It's something they're not allowed to do to disperse people. And it's filmed. It's on film.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And they submitted it to Minnesota, and Minnesota's like, we're going to charge him. Good. fucking good. And they should have been doing this from the beginning. When that guy in Chicago got shot in the face,
Starting point is 00:48:57 that priest got shot in the face, what should have happened was Brandon Johnson, the mayor, should have went to his fucking chief of police and said, police of chief of chief. No, it's the police of chief now.
Starting point is 00:49:10 The police of chief is fucking the best. I love it. I would have a sandwich called the police of chief. And in any case, the chief of police, you should have said, get out there,
Starting point is 00:49:18 get your guys out there. You roll up and you, you tell them, that they have to send somebody like, we're going to find out who that is and we're going to arrest that person. Because you can't just have people assaulting your citizens without any fucking repercussions whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:49:33 It's like just because they're part of the federal government doesn't mean anything. That means that if I'm part of the federal government, if I'm like a fucking IRS agent, I get to murder people and it doesn't matter. That's stupid. It is stupid. Like we've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:49:45 If we are going to as a society say, hey, here you go. Here's handcuffs and a gun. you have a greater not lesser responsibility. Yeah. You have a much greater responsibility. And you asked for that. So you knocked on our door.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And it pays pretty well. Yep. And you said, I would like that responsibility. I am uninterested in the argument that it's like, wow, you're asking too much. That don't fucking sign up for it.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. If you can't do this job and do it morally and do it legally, then like, go get a different job, man. Like if you're like, well, if you're afraid of stuff, don't do the thing you're afraid. Like, I'm not going to go be a fucking scuba instructor. Because I discovered the ocean's scary, man. So don't do it. So I'd be like a bad scuba instructor.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Somebody who has a fear of pills being a pharmacist. Right. Dude, you shouldn't do your job then. I'm a hang gliding instructor said the man afraid of heights. No, what? No. Like, don't do shit you're afraid of. Like, these guys, they retreat into bullshit because it's bullshit as a way to just get away with whatever they always wanted to get away with. And I'm glad they're going to be. Because it's the only way the next guy is going to think twice. Yeah, absolutely. This story is from the sky and hear missiles in the sky. I watch my life flash before my eyes.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But at least there's one huge plus. We know that the bomber went drove. This story is from the Independent. Department of Justice admits 47,635 Epstein files. It's pretty specific. Including Trump allegations were removed. We should also at the same time talk about this other episode. Epstein story.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's from CNN. Abstein deposition videos show Hillary Clinton in heated moments with lawmakers, Bill Clinton addressing the hot tub photo. Undressing more like. Hey, hey, hey. I watched parts of those depositions that were not leaked, but that were made public. They released the entirety of both of them, I think. Which was a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:51:59 The Clint's were fighting to do the whole thing publicly and not behind closed doors. and then fucking Lauren Bobert is secretly videotaping. She takes a picture. And then she posts it to her social. What I love is Hillary Clinton saying, this is just typical and like yelling at her. And you hear Lauren Bobert in the background, she's like, I'll take it down, I'll take it down.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And then when she's asked about it later, she's like, I just thought it was right to put it out there. I just, she's like totally unapologetic after the fact. But during the moment, she's like, I'm so sorry I didn't do it. Oh, my God. I'm going to follow my sword. But again, like, there's no actual repercussions.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah. So she violates the rules in a way that she knew she could get away with. And once it's posted, it's the internet. It's never unposed of that. Yeah, exactly. She's like, I'll delete it. Well, who cares? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:52:50 It's already out. She already did it. We knew that there was more files. They said, we knew that there's other files that they didn't release. We knew this sort of thing. We knew that it was very specifically about the Trump allegations. This isn't a fucking secret. We knew it.
Starting point is 00:53:05 now it's 100% true that is that is a thing that happened. But it's only 47,635. It's not that many in comparison to 3 million, I guess. Yeah, well, 3 million pages. I don't know how many pages. This is files. That's true. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Oh. Yeah, I... You know what? I thought it was pages when I read. I think from what I read, there's something like another 3 million pages. Feels like a lot. Feels like a lot, man. It feels like a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I wonder if there's any bad stuff. Well, they probably held back just... stuff that didn't matter? That's what you hold back? They just kept all the other stuff in there. God, it's just so fucked that they were like thick as thieves. You know what I mean? Also, there's a whole, this article's very long.
Starting point is 00:53:49 This article about Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton is very long. Basically, the Hillary stuff is, Hillary didn't really know him. The only time that they ever got really heated was when Nancy Mace tried to ask her about Lutnik. So evidently she was close to Lutnik, who was in the fire. And they're trying to ask her about Lutnik. And she's like, the only time I really worked with Lutnik was when he lost a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:54:10 during 9-11. And I was the senator at the time. And there was a back-and-forth there to try to do stuff. Or maybe she wasn't the senator or she was working with it. I don't know exactly when she was a senator, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But she was saying that she was working with that group of people at 9-11. So she was during the World Trade Center because he lost a bunch of people and she knew him and he was at the thing. And she just kept on, Nancy Mace just kind of kept on trying to ask the same question.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And she's like, I don't know anything about Lutnik and Epstein. Like, all I know is like how I worked with him. Right. So it, and then Bobert asked about Pizza Gate for Christ's sake. Oh, my God. You're such a fucking dumb person. She doesn't, she is genuinely so stupid. She asks the dumbest question.
Starting point is 00:54:53 She's, she's absolutely useless. And the only thing she, the only reason she's out there is so she could be on that Reddit, that hot or not Reddit that they have for like women in the thing where they're Nancy Mason. and her are fighting for updutes. But the two of them are asking all these questions. Bill Clinton is getting grilled about he's in a fucking plane. Are you in a hot tub?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Who rubbed your shoulders? Good. Fucking good. Ask away, man. Don't give a fuck. And if it comes out that he was lying or if he was like getting a fucking handy from somebody in that fucking hot tub, all the better that he has to catch shit for that. I don't fucking care at all.
Starting point is 00:55:30 They seem to think that somehow exposing Bill Clinton. as somebody who is tied to Epstein, is going to hurt anybody's feelings. I don't know a single person who gives a single tiniest fuck in the world about Bill Clinton. Thank you. Bill Clinton was the goddamn president in the 1990s. And he sucked.
Starting point is 00:55:50 He wasn't a good president. That was so long ago. It was so long ago. He was president, if I recall, from like 92 to 99. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Like, we've had a George W. Bush,
Starting point is 00:56:04 a fucking Obama, a Trump, a Biden, another Trump. He's five fucking administrations ago. He's not been politically relevant since I was actually in college. He's not politically relevant at all. The only thing he does is once in a while give a campaign speech for somebody who's a Democrat. Good. If he goes to jail, I don't care. If he did a bad, go to jail.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Even if he was, like, let's say they found, like, one of these big sentences. Let's say Bernie Sanders is in the fucking fires. Throw him away. Bernie Sanders is fucking found out and it's not true, so don't like send me a message or whatever, but just like let's say that Bernie Sanders. And I like Bernie Sanders. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I like them. I like the things he says. If they found out, it'd be like, oh, that sucks anyway. Yep. Anyway. And I would move on with my fucking life. I wouldn't care. I'd be like, cool, man.
Starting point is 00:56:52 They got rid of a fucking creep. The only thing I'd be worried about is this DOJ going after people specifically like attacking people who they don't like. Right. That would be a problem. that would have an issue with that. I do think that that's probably what this is. Yeah, this is bring them in because they want to fucking make them crawl on the carpet.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Exactly. But you know, like, you and I talked off off air a few weeks ago. It was like if like my kid did something like that. But people I, the people I love most in the world, they'd be like, well, cool, we got to call the cops. You're going to jail. Yeah. Like, sorry. Like, we are not family anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I'm calling the cops. I don't know. You don't fucking rape people. That's it. Like, full stop. Easiest fucking moral decision. I'll be sad about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I'll be mad about it. I have feelings. But like, I don't have a complicated decision to make. Yeah. The decision tree is real easy in all this. Did you rape? What on earth is happening if you think that this is going to affect anybody? Nobody should care about this.
Starting point is 00:57:48 What I care about, obviously, is them not having anything and making them answer questions for it. That's the thing I really bothers me. It's saying. All they're doing is just inflicting, trying to inflict damage and hearsay damage on these people. if there nothing ever happened. I know. I personally, I wouldn't put anything past Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That dude was a horn dog in office. He got caught being gross. He's been gross before in the past. He's had accusations against him. Very credible. Don't give a fuck if that guy falls off the map. 100% right. But have actual allegations.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Don't just tie shit together that's not like that you're like trying to ask questions about. There's got to be something in these documents and something in the past that links him to it. If that's the case. If you're going to actually have a case against the guy. Look, I agree with you. Have evidence or you don't have evidence?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Like a picture of a man in a hot tub. I've been in a hot tub. There's videos and there's images of me in a hot tub. That's nothing. Yeah. Like a hot tub is not sexy times. A hot tub is hot water. Yeah, it's a hot tub.
Starting point is 00:58:49 It's a hot tub. Some people go in in their jeans. Yeah. It's all very well to laugh at the military. But when one considers the meaning of life, it is a struggle between alternative viewpoints of life itself. and without the ability to defend one's own viewpoint against other perhaps more aggressive ideologies
Starting point is 00:59:07 than reasonableness and moderation could quite simply disappear. That is why we'll always need an army and may God strike me down worry it to be other ones. This story is from the AP. Sprawling investigation finds decades of sexual abuse among Catholic priests in Rhode Island. This is something we don't cover very often.
Starting point is 00:59:32 There's a lot of this that happens back in, forth. And it's something that we don't cover very often. But when you read the story, you find that they're shuffling priests around. They never stop doing any of this stuff. Somebody gets fucking caught. And then they're like, well, send them over state lines. And then they just send somebody to a different area. And it's all documented because they know they have to keep records on all this stuff. And then people find out. And they're like, oh, hey, weren't you shuffling priests around? And weren't they dittling a bunch of kids? Like, we basically had a religious structure that had this embedded in it in all 50 states.
Starting point is 01:00:09 There was somebody and people were shifted around between these things, never facing real repercussions, able to inflict damage again, again, and again and again and again. This is something that, this is a systemic. It's a systemic problem with the Catholic Church. That is a, that's a real issue and it's never been addressed. The only thing that's ever been addressed is individual victims have maybe won money. That's the only thing that's happened. But it's an organization that honestly should not be allowed to survive.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Like at some point, organizationally, we should be able to say, hey, there is a pattern here. It's not one or two bad apples. It's not a dozen bad apples. It's a systemic, bureaucratic, intentional hiding and moving and abuse of children. Like, you guys aided and abetted the rape of children. Like, if that's not something that we can't say, like, hey, as an organization, you just can't be here. Yeah. Like, you just can't be here anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Sorry. Like, we're taking away your fucking status of, like, being a charitable organization, whatever that's fucking called for churches. It's not a 501C3. I think it's maybe a four. And, like, you can't, like, you have to sell all your real estate and you got to put in a victim's fund. Like, at some point, we should be able to say, like, you can't be here anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:23 In this article, one of the things that made me grouchy when I read it is, like, somebody from the church was like, look, this, you guys are painting this like, this is. something that's ongoing and this is something that like we have since you know found out about and cooperated with authorities and we've done our best to remediate even if I believe that your response should never be that your response should be only this is a disgusting black mark on everybody that was involved and the church is dedicated to doing everything in its power to try to fix this problem what can we do it's all that matters never even an apology it's always like, they're always taken
Starting point is 01:02:02 a back. Yeah. It's crazy because they feel entitled to it. That's why everybody. It's because they think they do enough good to rape some kids on occasion. That's literally what they believe, right? I'm not making this up. It's a, listen
Starting point is 01:02:18 to how they respond to every single accusation. It's always like, well, come on man, we do a bunch of good. You gotta throw a couple kids down the volcano once in a while. That's how it works. I'm not, am I wrong? You're not wrong at all. It's exactly the right take on it. They really seem to think that there's a fucking trolley problem.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah. Where on the one side is like, you're absolutely right. On the one side, we fed some unhoused people or something. And on the other side, you raped a kid. And it's like, hey, man, there's nothing you can ever do that makes up for raping people. That's just like there's no like, you can't pay the piper enough for that to make that okay. Like they also seem to forget that the only reason that they're cooperating is because
Starting point is 01:03:00 they've been caught. That's it. Like, they got caught and now, now they feel sad. Now they have policies in place. Now they have procedures to cooperate. Now, well, yeah, but you didn't have that for fucking ever. Because you didn't care. You were like pro-kid rape. They didn't, they didn't hand anybody over. They handled it internally. Right. Right. Like, you know how you handle this is the moment you find out fucking father grabbing McHan's face is fucking, his fucking dittling kids, you take him and you say, hey, police, we have proof that this guy is diddling kids. Can you arrest him for us, please? And then he gets arrested.
Starting point is 01:03:37 That's how that works. That's how it would work in every single business, every single charity, every single fucking social group in the United States. That's how it would work. You'd say, somebody did a bad thing. We're going to the police and we're going to fix it. Instead, what happened was is, oh, well, we'll just, you know what? Maybe he was, I just need some more Jesus in his life.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Let's send him to Pennsylvania And, you know, maybe we'll put him in charge of kids there And we'll see if that fixes them Maybe he's learned from the error of his ways And then he does it again And they're like, oh, well, back to the drawing board We'll send him to South Dakota And then they just keep doing it over and over again
Starting point is 01:04:15 There's a way to fix it. It's an easy way to fix it. Zero tolerance policy to Diddlers They didn't do that. They never did that. And now they're fucking indignant about it. Fuck you. Fuck you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:28 All right. That's going to wrap it up for our show this week. We will be back on Thursday with a funny show, and we're going to leave you like we always do with the skeptics creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-babelon bullshit. Couchton, Scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quazi alternative, acupunuating, pressurized, stereogram, pyramidal, free energy healing, water, downward spiral, brain dead, pan, sales pitch, late night info docutainment. Leo Pisces, cancer cures, detox, reflex, foot massage, death and towers, tarot cars, psychic healing, crystal balls, Bigfoot, Yeti, aliens, churches, mosques and synagogues, temples, dragons, giant worms, Atlantis, dolphins, truthers, birthers, witches, wizards, vaccine nuts. Shaman healers, evangelists, conspiracy, doublespeak, stigmata, nonsense. Expose your signs. Thrust your hands. Bloody, evidential, conclusive.
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