Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 928: Schrödinger's McConnell, Platner Leaves Race
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And there is no Mitch McConnell. Today is... We don't know. We don't know for sure. Somebody had a 30-minute
conversation with it the other day. I sure they did. It was, I don't know, one of the people.
I don't know. The best part was, did you see fucking Massey posted the other day? Someone had posted
the other day something like Mitch McConnell. I had a conversation with Mitch McConnell. I think
30-minute conversation with Mitch McConnell.
He's doing well and he's in good spirits.
We talked about, you know,
how U.S. foreign policy for a little bit
and he's hopefully on the mend or something like that.
It was a conversation.
And it was somebody who was like in the Republican Party somewhere
and I don't remember exactly who it was.
But Thomas Massey posted,
I spoke to Mitch McConnell today
for 20 minutes this morning, basically covering,
doing the exact same line that the other person did.
And he said,
told me that we should get out of Iran, stop giving Israel money, and he was sorry about how my
primary turned out.
And that after that, he's trolling his own after that, I just saw dozens of those posts from
random people, just random people all over the internet.
This is just a same poem.
Exactly.
I spoke to Mitch McConnell.
I spoke to Mitch McConnell poem, you know.
Did you see somebody called him Rigger Tortoise?
Super amazing.
Oh, my God.
The thing is, is like, here's, here's all I want to say about it, right?
Like, one, he's probably dead, okay?
Or he's brain dead and they're just like fucking some weird head in a jar thing going on that's happening behind this means.
He's keeping his heart beating.
He's keeping his heart beating.
And, and, but the thing that is fucking crazy is his wife is just like, I'm out.
Dude, what is that?
Is she just fucking in China right now?
Just gone?
What even is that?
What a loving.
sweet relationship is either, come on, the guy's got to be dead.
How is it that he's not dead or brain dead?
And your wife is just like, well, I, you know, I had this trip plan for a wife.
I mean, you can't let it spoil your vacation.
I got these six flag tickets.
And I want to go on the white water rampage.
I love that, right?
The log jam.
Look, I am an American patriot.
I'm going on the American Eagle.
That's how it works.
Like, let's get on that fucking coaster and let's ride, baby.
Oh, gosh.
I'm going to get on the shock wave.
It's going to move my head around.
Mitch is going to be next to me flopping all over the place.
His brain dead ass is smacking it.
Yeah.
Mitch McConnell is so healthy that he can't talk to any reporters.
I know.
Or leave the hospital.
That's how healthy he is.
He's so healthy that while he's there,
he can talk only to people who,
already agree that he's so healthy and that's not strategically super valuable to us, please,
and thank you.
I have, come the fuck on.
I have waiting for us the dancing cemetery funeral guys ready to go the moment we find out
Mitch McConnell is actually deceased.
I think what happened probably is he's probably brain dead.
I think that this is a conversation they don't want to have, right?
Well, I think from what I've read,
There's a significant strategic value if he dies in three weeks.
Yeah.
So if you're a Republican and he dies or is incapacitated and comes out of the running right now,
my understanding is that they are then required to hold a special election in order to fill that seat.
And in that seat now, it would not be a guarantee that a Republican would pick up that seat.
Yeah.
Could be massy as an independent.
Right.
So they're fearful of that.
By the way, just want to point out for everyone else except for Republicans, that sucks.
Right. Massey's a piece of shit.
Like the only thing Massey disagreed with Trump on, and I'll probably be corrected, someone will be like,
oh, well, he actually disagreed on this particular bill or whatever.
But from what I've seen, he's pretty MAGA.
He does all the same stuff.
He just happens to think that Epstein stuff should be out in the open.
Like, that's the one major disagreement.
So who the fuck cares in comparison, right?
Thomas Massey, like, just just to call it out, he voted with Trump over 90% of the time.
Yeah.
Like he voted on Trump-backed measures and Trump.
So, like, he is absolutely not some, like, new liberal hero.
No, absolutely not.
He's a guy who got, he bucked the system a little bit.
He paid a penalty.
He got thrown away by his party.
And now he's angry about it.
And he's become, like, a little bit of a troll.
And that's all that that is.
And understand that's not going to mean his vote goes with the Democrats.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
That's not going to mean.
What it's going to mean is he's going to vote the same way he's been voting forever.
And on occasion, he may stick it to somebody.
But it's pretty rare.
And then you've got to wait for that to happen.
It's like those movies where you have to like ally yourself with the bad guy in order to get something.
Because like the bad guy is the only guy that can help you.
And then you get fucked in the end.
That's essentially what you're doing.
You'd be aligning yourself with a bad guy.
I'd much rather have, you know, a left voice in there.
But you're not going to get that.
in Kentucky.
Well, I do think that the Republicans are genuinely worried that that is more possible than it's ever been.
I'm not saying it's not possible.
I'm just saying, I'm not sure it's going to happen.
Same, man.
I don't think we should be, I mean, the Grand Platner thing will tell us exactly how unsure we should be about everything.
Yeah, exactly.
But, like, it's so funny because there's nobody, this is exactly how Mitch McConnell would want to go, right?
Just cock blocking the normal rules of government and the normal path of succession in order to, like,
achieve victory through an administrative rule.
Cherrymandering life,
charymandering death.
I mean,
you know what I mean?
Yes, right.
Yeah.
Like, he,
like,
is there some way I can block Merrick Garland again?
No.
It's like,
this guy,
according to reports,
they showed up and did CPR on this guy.
Yeah,
yeah.
I mean,
amazing.
He's not doing good.
And then they're just like,
I don't know,
he's still in the hospital 11 days later.
That's normal and chill and cool and fine.
It's got to be,
I mean,
in my thoughts,
it's almost certainly somebody who's brain dead.
And you're never going to, I think a lot of people are like, well, why don't we know?
Why don't we know?
And you don't know because medical records are private.
So let's talk a little bit about that, though, because I do feel like capacity.
I feel like your medical records should be private, even if you're a federal official or a government official, right?
I don't think anybody has a right to know how your last pap smear turned out.
That's not the American people's.
It was fine, by the way.
Thank you.
Good.
I'm glad to hear that.
That's fine.
The worst part.
worst part was the cotton swab and where they had to put it.
But, yeah.
You know, like, I don't think, like, people have a right to know all the intimate details of your medical
history just because you're a senator.
But I do think we always have a right to know your capacity.
That's a great point.
That's a great point.
That's it.
Yeah.
So, like, I don't have a right to know anything but capacity.
Do I have a, like, there's been a couple of people now.
And I'm going to forget.
I don't remember their name, so forgive me.
But there was a Republican congressperson recently who disappeared for 170 days.
They wanted to have in like a dementia place or something like that.
And then another one that ended up in a dementia place.
They were gone for months.
That person was gone for like eight months.
I think it was a Democratic woman, if I'm not mistaken.
There was a Republican guy who was gone for 117 days.
He was like in an inpatient facility for depression.
Captured by pirates for a while.
He got, he got press ganged into the open seas.
He's like Caesar from back in the day when Caesar gets captured by pirates.
Like I don't feel like if I stopped showing up for work for 117 days or in months.
And I don't tell anybody and nobody knows if I'm capable of doing my job.
That's not a thing.
Well, and I think to add one to that, there should be an independent commission that every year gives people cognitive tests.
Yeah.
Right?
You have to have a cognitive test.
This is a brain job.
You got a brain job.
You've got to use your brain.
If you can't use your brain, shouldn't have a brain job.
Your job should now be along to somebody else who can use their brain.
So we need to be able to put that in as a standard.
You got to have a cognitive test.
And there should always be if you're gone for more than two weeks, someone needs to verify your location.
Thank you.
That's it.
That's all.
These are easy things.
Just two things.
I got to verify that you're alive.
There's got to be a proof of life.
I've got to like go in and be like, as an independent person, not as a partisan, not the party checks in on you.
This is an independent commission that basically says everybody gets cognitive tests every year and everybody gets a proof of life every two weeks that they're gone.
And like maybe if you're going to be out for an extended period of time, you're going.
somebody subs in.
Sure.
Right?
Tag somebody else in.
Yeah.
I don't feel like, like if I told my boss, because like aren't we the boss as the American
people as the constituents, aren't we the boss?
If I told my boss, hey man, no one's going to do my job for an indeterminate period of time,
but my job is important.
In fact, there's only 500 people in the whole country, that 500 change, that have this
job in the whole country.
And I had to beg, borrow, plead in order to get it.
I had to convince everybody that I,
amongst many.
Will uniquely qualified, please, please give me this job.
Also, I'm not going to do it.
And I don't know when I'll be back.
And the work is important, but nobody's going to do the work at all.
I don't feel like that's anything.
If you're gone for a few weeks, fine, like you said.
But if I'm going to be gone and it's like, hey, I've got a medical thing.
I've got to take care of it.
I don't know how long I'll be gone.
I've got a second.
I've got my stand in, you know, and they're going to vote and have my proxy.
The two-party system reinforces this kind of behavior,
nobody on the other side wants you to fill your seat to say anything.
It's true.
So nobody wants that to happen.
So there's never going to be any push because of the two-party system.
If there was more pressure, right?
If there was three, four, five, six parties, then that might be something that everybody
would be like, yeah, I think we should do that.
Because then on occasion, the Republicans and the libertarians could get together and pass
something.
Right.
But if it's just Republicans and Democrats, then you're not going to get this to happen.
That's true.
Think about how...
It's a reinforcing shitty social.
It is.
It's a terrible system.
The fact that it's two-party,
your point is exactly right.
The fact that it's two-party
makes this exact easy,
common-sense solution
not plausible
because it's not politically advantageous.
Yeah, it's not advantageous.
But imagine if your representative
is the one who's gone.
Yeah.
And you're just like,
I have no advocate.
Yeah, nobody's going to advocate.
It's either important that I have one.
It's only two things can possibly be true.
Either it's important that you have an advocate
as a constituent,
or it's unimportant.
If it's unimportant, if it's unimportant,
important, then why do we have the system? If it's important, then someone should fucking represent you.
Sure. Yeah. And not just be like, yeah, I'm not coming to work. I don't know when I'll be back.
Yeah, it's principle versus practice, though. Right. These people want practice. They want, they want less people.
The people on the left right now are happy that no one's sitting in for Mitch McConnell because that's one less seat.
That's one less vote. Yeah, it's one more chance that we can stop things from happening because Mitch McConnell is
currently on a machine that's keeping him alive. Brain ventilator or whatever. He's like, I hope there is a
rain ventilate. They just fill his fucking head with air.
I just hope he doesn't come back as like
Darth McConnell.
He comes back.
How would anyone tell?
He takes his head off.
It's black. You're like, that's not any different.
It's the same thing. Your face is still black
like it was. It's just what it was. You're still being
consumed by the dark side.
Yeah, right. And also your wife doesn't love you.
We do. That was the thing.
Oh my God.
You know, it's actually really weird. This is the first
sitting senator that they buried.
in a pet cemetery in order to, you know, resurrect him.
We think it'll work out okay.
It'll probably work out.
That's what you do with all turtles.
Yeah.
I mean, I'd call you a loser and a liar, but I think you know what a piece of shit you are.
All right.
We got to talk about Graham Platoners.
We do.
The Associated Press, it's also from every fucking where.
Democrat Graham Platner says he plans to withdrawal from main Senate race after sexual
assault claim.
We talked about Graham Platner.
Sure.
And, like, just to be very clear, we, we,
were willing to sort of let bygones be bygones in terms of like giving him an opportunity
to change and grow as a person.
Yes, absolutely.
And say, okay, like we don't see a lot of evidence of, you know, wrongdoing or misconduct
that is necessarily something you can't, like, move past or somebody can't grow up.
And it's not recent, right?
It wasn't recent.
It was old Reddit posts and it was a tattoo that he covered up.
Right.
And there were sexual harassment allegations.
this is far beyond.
This is a sexual assault plane.
Fuck this guy.
As soon as evidence comes out, right?
As soon as there's something where you're like, okay,
there was smoke now there's fire.
I don't care if, I would rather lose this guy and lose the Senate
than hold on to or defend or keep promoting somebody who has no value.
Yeah, 100% agree, Tom.
I can't agree more.
I think what I don't want to.
do is I'm seeing sort of this undercurrent of a lot of people saying, I knew it all along.
I knew it all along.
I knew it all along.
That's fine.
That's intuition.
It can be right.
It can be wrong.
You're counting the hit.
So understand that you may be doing something that is a logical fallacy, right?
Counting the hits, forgetting the misses.
How many times was your intuition right in the past that you are counting and how many times
was it wrong?
How many times did you think, oh, this is a bad situation and it wasn't?
And then you forgot about it.
So your intuition isn't anything, right?
What it is is it's a way to be cautious.
What I don't want to do and what I, and I won't go back on anything I said because what I said, I still mean.
Right.
If someone presents themselves as someone who can change, I don't want to be a guy.
I would much rather be a guy who on occasion someone lies to me.
Yes.
Then someone who never thinks anyone can change ever.
because I think that my values say
that someone who wants to make change in their life
and be a different person
should be allowed to do that.
It appeared that that was what Graham Plantar
was trying to do, right?
It covered up a tattoo, right?
That's not something you...
I see a lot of people are bringing up
this Nazi tattoo now that this has happened.
Which is crazy because it's not relevant to this issue.
And what I want to say is be like,
it's very possible that he's always been a piece of
shit and he's been hiding it. That's very true.
But I also want to recognize that there are, that we should be accepting of people when they
want to change who they are. And in many cases, people who were on the other side of sort of
an ideological divide. And let's take racism, for instance, some of the most staunch anti-racists
that exist are people who were once very well.
racist. Right? So the people who will fight the hardest for things like that happen to be the people
who were fighting for the other side at a certain point in their life. That happens very often.
Right. So I don't want to close that door and say, if you're, if in the past, you've, you've exhibited
qualities of a racist, you can never change. I don't want to do that. I don't want to be that person and I
don't want to do that. But what I do want to do is say, at a certain point, I'm not interested in
at all if there keeps on being allegations and you lie about things like allegations that are coming
up like now. If you lie about them, then I don't want to. You have a lot more work to do. And in fact,
you should do it where you're not asking for a center seat. You should do that on your own.
You should be, but we're not going to do this anymore. And that's how I feel about it. I don't want to
be a person who's going to reject people's change. I don't want to do that. I literally, all of my
politics and all of the way in which I think embraces that people can change and be better.
And I don't want to change who I think about and how I think about them because someone lied.
Yeah. I agree with all of that. I have a, maybe I'm not quite as, I don't think I'm as loving and
forgiving as you are. I would like to be maybe. I don't think I've ever been able to like
grow the same way as you. Because for me, I feel like I am very willing to say and embrace somebody's
change of heart and change of opinion and change of values and stance. But I am not as willing to
move on from the actions somebody took with their body to hurt another person's body.
Like, for me, it's different, like, substantively different. So, like, in other words, for Graham Platner,
for example, like, if he had and held problematic views about sex and women and sexuality, and then
but he never acted on them.
He just had bad ideas.
And then he grew and he changed.
And he doesn't have those ideas anymore.
Welcome.
I'm glad that you grew and changed.
But when you rape somebody,
and that's the allegation here,
is straight up that he raped somebody,
it's, I just am like,
okay, well, you can't represent me anymore.
Right?
I can't, because now you don't represent me.
Now you've,
you have hurt people.
You've moved away from,
this is a value of mind that has changed.
This is an idea set that I used to hold.
to now you raped somebody.
I don't have a way to say, okay, great.
I'm not saying you should be thrown away as a human being,
but you don't get to represent the American people.
Like, this is a job you can never hold.
I don't feel like, and I kind of, I feel the same way.
Like if somebody was like, yeah, I used to commit physical hate crimes in the world,
but now I feel differently and I wouldn't do it again.
I'm like, that's great.
There's a lot of work you can do.
But I don't feel comfortable saying,
you should be a representative of the American people.
What I did and what I said was,
and I think you and I both agreed,
was that we begrudgingly
because there just wasn't any other option
wanted this to happen.
We were like, you know what?
It's not great.
Both of us were saying, not great.
Not great.
Both of us were decrying the idea
that there isn't someone, someone
who could be part of this process.
And I want to say like,
progressives specifically
were the ones
the more progressive people,
not the corporate Democrats, right?
Because the corporate Democrats
wanted somebody else.
Right.
The corporate Democrats were endorsing someone else.
Mills, right?
Yeah.
They wanted someone else.
The far progressives,
he was saying things
that they agreed with.
You've got to be careful
that someone isn't manipulating you
and tricking you
into listening to them and doing the things that they want you to do because they're saying the
things you want to hear. You've got to be real careful against that. And you've got to do a way
fucking better job of vetting people. Thank you. It is so painful to me that because we put our
blinders on, that the excitement was there, that the words were spoken in the right order,
that we just were like, well, we'll just do the vetting later. We can't do that. We can't do
stuff. We can't do that stuff. Because this is where you end up. You end up with a fucking guy
who's potentially a rapist who now is almost certainly going to cost us this seat. This was always
going to be a tough race in Maine. Yeah, because Susan Collins is the incumbent. Right. This is a
tough, tough race in Maine. This was always going to be a tough race. The Senate's incredibly important.
We didn't do our due diligence in vetting. Otherwise, we would have rejected this guy quickly.
I would imagine there were skeletons on skeletons on skeletons. Like we were talking.
You can't find somebody with good ideas without crazy misogynist and racist skeletons in their closet.
How hard is this?
Here's what I want to.
Genuine question.
There's something about a blue collar soldier that tunes up the Democrat Party because there just isn't any of them.
Look at how much Tulsi Gabbard was a darling of the left before she kind of sort of really went off and then lost her seat, right?
of how much of it, she was a soldier.
You just don't get a lot of those.
You don't get a lot of left-leaning soldiers coming in.
If you're a soldier and you served and you're left, there's a chance, a real great chance
and you can speak.
They're going to put you up in the party.
They're going to lift you up.
This guy was absolutely somebody who they thought, this is the perfect blend of a personality
to win over blue-collar, you know, hard-nosed manors.
This was a guy that they thought,
this is going to be our best chance.
And they just fucking fumbled the bag
when it comes to whether or not this guy is actually a creep or not.
Right.
You did a bad job.
Did a bad job.
And I want to address too,
because I already, I've seen in comment sections,
even on like left-leaning,
people will show up and be like,
oh, guilty until proven innocent.
No, he's not.
He's not going to jail.
He just doesn't get this one job.
Yeah.
Like, I want to be really clear about that piece.
Like, no one is saying, like, you know, he is being thrown into jail tomorrow.
He's being ejected out of a fucking cannon out of the, you know, with no due process.
Oh, where's the due process?
Everybody should get due.
But no.
He just doesn't get this one job.
This interview is over.
Yeah.
That's it.
There's nothing else to see here.
That's a fair response to multiple credible.
allegations, right? And if these credible allegations are like they come to light and they're all,
there's all a lot of evidence for them, I'd like to see him prosecute it. Yeah, same, right?
If prosecute them. Like if there's, if this goes to the level where a prosecutor says like,
hey, I've got a case here, then take the case. Take the case to them. Absolutely, 100%.
Nobody who commits a sexual assault should get away with it. Yeah. Right. 100%. I'm right there.
Right. I just like, I know people are so willing,
Like there's a certain, like, vocal contingent to people who are like, oh, we don't know for sure it hasn't been.
I get it.
Yeah, 100%.
No one is saying right now, like, let's eject them from a fucking canon.
We're just saying, hey, man, you're not going past this interview stage for this one job.
And I think, too, like, there was people who were willing to go even farther for Platner.
I read a comment.
I don't know how true it was, but one of these podcast influencers on the left that's a farther left leaning had said,
didn't even care if somebody really had, like, racist views as long as they, they helped the party.
And, like, I disagree.
Like, I, I, I, I don't percent disagree.
I think, I think your values, like, that's the most important piece of this, is that you got to have
good values.
And if somebody comes in and they're lying about who they are, we just can't trust them.
No.
And they can, and here's the thing.
Graham can go do all that work on his own.
Go try to be a better person for the rest of your life and do something else.
but you just don't get to be a senator.
That's it.
You just don't get to be a senator.
Like, this is too much.
It's too much.
You're lying and people are catching you in your lies.
If you would have, if this stuff would, this stuff,
I know a lot of people are saying it's politically motivated, right?
So they're saying, oh, well, this stuff's politically motivated.
And you're like, of course it is.
Because if you were this person who was sexually assaulted by this person,
and you saw his name constantly all the way up there.
And you realize he's got a real chance to be a senator,
every day you're taking mental damage by the fact that somebody possibly who raped you is going to be a senator
of course you're going to post something and say something and call a reporter and do this stuff
don't don't let's not blame the victim here no yeah let's not go after the victim be like oh
it's politically motivated dude what the fuck like of course it's politically motivated because he put
himself in politics i know you again like these people are asking for this one very
job, which is one of the most rare jobs in the entire country.
So you don't feel sorry for somebody who doesn't get one of the highest jobs in the nation.
The woman who's made these allegations, she said that partially the reason she didn't want to
speak out at first is because she agrees with this politics.
She's politically aligned with Graham Platner.
The reporting that I've seen agrees with that, that her politics are not right-wing
politics.
Her politics agree with Graham Platner's politics.
it's just it's your point.
She's like, but people don't really know who he is.
And like, he is not a person with good values.
You can't, to your point before, we're like, well, some people have said, well, you know,
somebody is like a racist, but they're still going to be on my side.
You can't be a racist and be progressive.
Yeah.
Because when race issues come up as they inevitably will, I mean, we just had a Supreme Court decision that was racist,
the birthright citizenship piece, right?
So you can't advocate for positions.
You objectively hold the opposite.
position of.
That would be crazy.
How many days you have left,
they lose me right after
the bunker scene.
This is from Mashable.
White House purchased thousands
of web pages about energy saving
during heat wave.
Now, they did that in direct response
to Mom Dani,
who basically said,
hey, here's what everybody
says every time there's a heat wave,
which is don't set your air conditioner
too low.
And the justice, people were like,
oh, the socialist
want to control the temperature in your own house.
And the response was like, this is on your fucking website.
And they were like, not anymore.
Here's what I want to say about this.
If anybody ever tells you that Republicans aren't hypocrites.
Right?
Like, this is exactly what hypocrites do.
Yes.
Is they immediately try to cover their tracks after they've committed a hypocrisy.
They immediately say, oh, and then they try to hide it behind something,
that's a fucking hypocrite.
this is straight up hypocrisy.
It is. This is like
this is alternative facts shit.
Yeah, this is crazy alternative facts.
They just, we'll delete 6,000 pay it.
We'll delete all of it.
We don't have time to scrub it.
Just go ahead and delete it because potentially
we agree with a socialist about something.
They need control F for 78 and they just deleted everything.
But it turns out that they missed one and someone else found one again.
So like people just keep searching the websites for different things, different departments
and how they talk about this particular.
issue.
This, one thing I want to talk about the weather, though, is that this is not going to get any
easier.
No.
This is not.
We, people seem to think that this is going to be, oh, you know, well, yeah, you have one bad
year once in a while.
No, this is how it's going to be.
This is it now.
From now on.
Yeah.
Right.
This or worse.
This are worse.
Right now, in Illinois, we used to have sort of a tornado season.
There was a tornado season.
It was spring.
most of the time in spring for about two months
there was a chance
that there would be a tornado that would roll through
what we call tornado alley here in our state
which is sort of it's far enough way from Chicago
where the storms can form far enough away
which is really far enough away from Lake Michigan essentially
and and it was a it was like a narrow strip
that went down sort of the center of our state
right around Chicago area that's where the storms
would get most intense over Iowa
come in and really rain down some shit.
I know you've been through tornadoes.
I was in the in the Joliet Mall when Plainfield got hit with an F5.
I was literally blocks away from where that hit.
I've seen many tornadoes in my life.
There's been places right down the street for me that have been blown up by tornadoes.
Tornadoes now are creeping deep into July.
Yeah, man.
Right?
So, and there's possibilities.
There's been nights that I've gotten tornado stuff in July this year.
Yeah.
And that's not something I ever remember.
June was almost unheard of.
There have been winter tornadoes.
Yeah.
There have been winter tornadoes in recent memory.
It's all changing.
And it's not going to get any better.
It will only likely get worse if you believe, you know,
climate scientists.
You know, and the idea that the government is like so ideologically opposed to the
fact that somebody on the left said a true thing,
that they would rather just not have true things be.
available to you? Well, it's so that they can make this claim that nothing's happening, right?
Because if they have this thing on their website and it says 78 degrees, then what they're saying in
their own head, they're trying to be consistent with their position on climate change, which is,
well, we don't need to worry about that because that's not a thing. And you're like, well,
this is just going to keep getting worse. It's not like you can magically make everything better
and nobody has to do this work to not get brownouts in New York. You're so.
going to get this. It's not a game of SIM where I can just drop a couple generators
in the middle of New York and fix the problem or whatever. It's going to be an issue because it's a
genuine infrastructure issue with a number of people that live out there. You just can't.
It's not something you can easily fix. No. Do you think, so Texas has gotten hammered. And like everything
I've read said, Texas specifically is under increased threat for much more severe activity as a result of
climate change. Texas is going to eat a lot of shit. They're going to have colder, cold snaps,
wet or wet times, hotter heat waves. Yeah, they'll get tornadoes and hurricanes sometimes.
Yeah. So they're going to eat a lot of shit in Texas, right? And Texas is pretty staunchly Republican.
Or don't send me an email. I know it's purple. But like there's a lot of, you know, Republican.
I wonder if they will be forced to recognize at some point, even implicitly. Like, I kind of
even care at this point because it's so existential if they use the same words. Do you have
what I mean? Like if their grid keeps going down and their fucking pipes keep bursting and
their, you know, people keep getting washed away in these flash floods and all the stuff that's
been happening, do you think they'll start to say, all right, well, we'll make some changes,
but we won't say why we're doing it. You know, there's a part of me that would just be fine with that
at a certain point. I grew up with the existential threat of nuclear war, right? So like, I know you did
to, right? That whole existential threat. I can't tell you the number of hours that I had like
sheer anxiety, especially during very difficult times in, you know, foreign politics,
where like sheer anxiety about what could feasibly happen, right? I can't imagine,
because I'm going to be checking out here, you know, in, certainly in under what I've put in,
right? In my life, certainly in under what I've put in. But I don't be checking out, I probably got
what, maybe 20, 30 years left, something like that.
That's not, I'm not going to experience the real, real, real dire consequences of this.
I'm going to experience some.
I will probably experience some.
If the predictions are correct, I will probably experience some at the very end of my life.
But the real damage, this is just going to keep getting exponentially worse.
And just like now, where you're like, wow, it really sucks now that it's 100 degrees for
five days straight in New York City or whatever, it's going to be a hundred.
100 degrees for 15 days straight.
Yeah.
At that point, 20 days straight, 30 day straight, it's not going to get any better.
And so if somebody just starts quietly fixing things and begrudgingly quietly fixing things, good.
Because the wonder that I have is, can you fix some of this without acknowledging root cause?
I don't know if that you can't.
I don't know if you can't either.
Part of me is just like, okay, like, I mean, who has to eat what shit?
You know, who has to lose what money?
Who's, like, what senator's kid has to get washed away in a flood at camp in order for them
to say, okay, all right, you got me on that one.
We'll go ahead and do solar farms again, you know?
Like, we'll go ahead and allow some more windmills.
We'll go ahead and try to, you know, fix this problem.
At what point, what are the sacrifices that have to be put on the altar in order for
them to say, all right, okay, you got me.
One thing that's important to play attention to is where billionaires
are investing. And there's been some billionaires who have been building bunkers for themselves.
Cool and chill. So it's important to point that out. It's important to be like, oh, why, though?
Why are you doing that? And is your thermostat set to 78? Mine is in your bunker.
In your bunker? Mostly it's underground, so it keeps its temperature. That's true. You know what I mean?
Very efficient. It's very efficient. You just, you just hide it in there. It's easy.
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I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at animal cruelty.
You can excuse racism.
Listen, I just want you to understand how we go through the notes and Cecil's clicking through
to find the next story.
And he introduced this one to me like, should we do this one?
Next just goes, racist?
And I'm like, sure.
Sure, let's do racism.
There we go.
Let's do a racism story.
It's 2026.
Let's talk about racism.
All right.
This is from ABC, NBC.
NBC, I don't know.
NBC Washington.
NBC.
Thank you.
Masked men with Confederate flag scene chanting, marching,
riding metro in D.C.
One of the photos from this is pretty telling.
If you go to the website,
you can take a look at it.
But one of the photos is pretty telling.
It's got an image of one black guy
surrounded by a bunch of cowards
who are covering their face
and their whole body
on 104 degree day
in the middle of the metro
because they're so cowardly
they can't even bring their collals
down in front of their face.
This is one of those things, though,
that you'll see
because we have elected someone
who empowers racists.
Yes.
Right?
So they know that this is a permission slip
by the current administration
to march around
with a loser flag from a loser ideology,
the Confederacy lost badly the war.
They should have been punished way more severely
than they actually were.
And we allowed them to reenter society,
civilized society,
and what we should have done was punish the shit out of them
so that they never think these thoughts again.
And what they do is they trap, like right now,
the idea that on the, the,
day of the birth of the nation, you would be waving a traitor flag in the middle of Washington, D.C.
It should be so appalling to all of these patriotic Republicans, but they will look the other way because
they hate the same people they hate. Yeah, I think a couple of things about this are really worth
noting. Your note that, of course, they hide their faces, right? I'm proud of who I am. Sure. I'm proud of
the things I believe in. Even when I'm wrong about things, that gives me a chance to be wrong,
say I'm sorry, grow from it and learn from it, right? These guys are hiding their faces because
they don't want to face the repercussions for being who they are. Sure. And believing what they
believe. And there's that lone black guy in this picture surrounded by this hate, surrounded by
this shit. There was a lot of people at this rally. This was not one of those. In years past,
you and I have made fun of some of these things. We're like 12 guys show up.
And, you know, they're surrounded by 500 people.
And the 500 people laugh at them and play a tuba and mock them and everything.
Things have begun to shift.
This is a large group of people now that gathered in Washington, D.C.
And everybody on the political spectrum, left or right, in a sane world, would stand up vocally and say, there's no room in America for this.
This is un-American, it is un-American to hold these views.
The fact that the right is silent about racism and about white supremacy,
silent or dismissive or encouraging.
Those are their three views that the right holds.
They either say nothing when shit happens.
They are openly encouraging it or they are dismissive as if it didn't really mean what we just saw it mean.
That's all the right does racist shit.
Sure.
That gives all the cover for this to grow.
It's a growing movement.
And it is an accelerating movement.
It is making everybody less safe.
and this should be the least American thing about us.
So what is America?
If this is what we've become?
What even is America as a nation, as a culture,
as a set of thoughts and values that we agree to hold together that binds us?
One of the things that I think people will say,
if they see this and they're on the right,
they may say something like, well, they should have the ability to march.
Maybe that's true, maybe that's not true.
You know, we could fight about that a little bit.
But even if they do have that ability to march,
what should be happening is there should be a denouncing of them
from both sides.
Yes.
Racism isn't welcome, right?
So let's say they do march in the middle of Washington, D.C.
Okay, they marched.
But nobody, everybody is saying,
these guys are a bunch of fucking losers
and they hold loser values.
That's what should happen.
But what you see is a silence
a complete silence on their part.
And in some cases, not a silence,
and a holding up of these values,
reinforcing these values.
So whenever anybody wants to bring up
the idea that, oh, well, you know, you should be able to do it.
Yeah, you should be able to do it,
but other people should be able to say
that's fucking abhorrent.
Yes.
Right?
And it should be the side of,
it should be on both parties' side.
There should not be a group of people
in this country who should be responsible
for a large, like a large percentage.
Black people make up a large party.
a large percentage of people in this country.
If you're a representative of the people
and you aren't representing black people
because you think they're less than,
you shouldn't have a place in our government.
You shouldn't be someone who should have a place in our government.
You should be gone.
We shouldn't have you in there.
So I know that there is going to be some flubbing
and some trying to straw man
and trying to push things so that they can make it seem like this
isn't a big deal.
This is a huge fucking deal.
It's a huge deal.
And the idea that,
they're walking around with a
symbol of slavery,
right?
That flag is nothing
but a symbol of
subjugation of
people based on race.
That's all it is.
There's no way to...
You can't tell...
I will not accept
any argument
that makes it seem like
that's not what that flag
represents.
That's exactly what
that flag represents.
All that heritage,
not hate,
bullshit is such a fucking lie.
It is.
Find a new heritage symbol.
Right?
You can find a
heritage symbol that shows you're from the South rather than a thing that was used during the Civil War.
Yeah. Well, and we've covered it actually in citation need its lost cause episode. The lost cause of
the Confederacy. So it's a fun listen and it's actually pretty informative. I happen to write it.
But there is all the evidence in the world historical first person accounts. If you want to know
what that war was about, don't listen to anybody who says it's about anything other than slavery.
It's slavery. Just read what Jefferson Davis.
who was the leader of that movement.
Read what he said in his speeches.
Read what he wrote in his writings
about literally what was motivating that cause.
You don't have to...
This is not like you have to dig really deep
into the subtext.
There's no subtext required.
The literal leader of that cause
in his speeches and writings
was unequivocal
that this was about slavery.
That's it.
You don't have to...
We don't have to have a long-form argument about this
because it's not a long-form issue.
Well, and then you can look at the north
and how they wanted to appease the South.
Yeah, exactly.
So we can look at those ways in which they wanted to appease it.
They were all around slavery.
Right.
And the fight on whether or not we were actually going to free black people.
Wasn't even given.
Wasn't even given.
So all those things tell you, everything you need to know about why that war started and why that war existed.
The people who want to pretend that it was about something else so that they could,
so they could be secret racists.
That's why they want to do it.
That's the only reason.
If it was a reason why you loved your state,
I love my state so much.
I don't know what's wrong with you if you think that.
But I love my state state so, so much.
I've got to represent it.
There's other ways to represent it.
We're the fucking state flower.
Yeah, man.
There you go.
We're a pin of the state fucking animal or whatever.
There is a unsubtle undercurrent of threat and violence
that comes from a masked group of 100% men.
Yeah.
Standing there with a fucking Confederate flag.
Get the fuck over.
Come on.
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Financial review.
Longevity guru, Brian Johnson, reveals he has an incurable disease.
So this guy is a guy who's like, what's that?
It's called vanity.
It is called vanity.
It is fucking incurable.
This is the same guy who takes blood transfusions from his like teenage sons and does all kinds of crazy shit.
And now he's got like autoimmune gastritis, which is.
essentially means his stomach is fucked and it is working against himself.
And like, it's maybe the fact that he does all this crazy longevity shit that he's basically
made up himself.
Yeah, he only, he planned, he's figured out this whole regimen to try to make himself into a stay
young forever.
That was his, that was his whole goal.
And in this article, they interview him and talk to him or at least somebody did and
they were quoting it.
But he's talking about how the reason why he has.
this autoimmune disease is because of when he was overweight back in the day.
Sure.
That's what caused it.
It was when I was on that and I was taking pills for like my thyroid or something like
that, either the medicine caused it or the junk food caused it or whatever.
It's not anything now.
Right.
This is all motivated reasoning by the guy.
And I don't know if he believes it or not.
I don't know that he's selling it.
He's not selling this.
He's just doing this, right?
I think he's why my recollection about this guy from what I've read before is that he has
an influencer in this space.
Okay.
Makes his living.
I see.
Not necessarily like selling peptides, but laundering these ideas.
So that would, then it would make sense that he want to protect his brand.
Right.
Right.
You got to protect your brand if that's the case.
Because this is the only thing that you, this is what you're putting your bank in.
You can't, you can't like be true to yourself and be like, oh, I might have fucked my own
body up.
Right.
And so, and I don't want to pretend.
I don't want to play doctor here.
Yeah.
Who knows how he fucked his body up?
I do know, like I, I've had reason to look into autoimmune gastritis.
over the last five years, right?
So I actually have like a little bit of information about this,
which may or may not be relevant,
but I think it's potentially funny.
So every time you get a blood transfusion,
it's not just like the type and cross that they have to look for.
So that's like, that's the basics.
You're in a fucking emergency.
You're a plus, type A plus or A positive, rather.
They're going to give you type A positive or O negative blood.
But there are many other factors in blood that your body can react to.
And every time you get a blood transfusion, it increases the likelihood of an immune reaction
to the next blood transfusion.
It's why if you're having like a big surgery, they will often ask you to bank your own blood
so that if you need a transfusion, it's autologous rather than donor blood.
So getting all of this fucking weird bio, not his shit put into his body does have potentially
the ability to set off an immune chain reaction.
That is a real thing that happens.
maybe that's not at all what happened here.
Again, I'm not playing doctor.
But it's not at all unlikely or unfeasible or unplausible.
This guy just made his whole protocol up out of whole cloth.
It's not like he went to like upstairs medical college and figured all this out with research.
Yeah, he says he has like doctors that give him all kinds of tests all the time to like test his blood constantly and all this stuff.
And so my thought and that too would be I'm sure you have motivated doctors too.
You know, there's a lot of motivated reasoning that goes on with this sort of stuff.
And there's a lot of money.
And then it's like also really hard to pull yourself out of the equation.
This is a guy who's doing this for himself.
Right.
How can I then look at the thing you did for yourself and whether or not it's going to work for me
and like, and you're invested in it, deeply invested in it?
Maybe you're not telling me everything I need to know about it.
It's just, this is just we shouldn't, you should never do science where a guy just like,
I'm just going to try this one thing and see if it works.
Because that's not good.
No.
That's bad.
And in every way is that bad.
Everything you learn by doing that also, you're just an N of one.
Yeah, exactly.
So maybe you did figure out a thing that worked for you.
Maybe you found the founding youth for yourself.
Right.
Maybe it does not.
Like, look, there is one person, one, that survived rabies.
And they've tried that exact same protocol on many other people that have got,
and they have not saved anybody else.
Just because something works once doesn't mean it capital,
works. It means it worked.
You know? So it's funny to me, too, that he's like,
well, these doctors do all these tests. You can just order those tests.
You don't, I only know this because the shit like with,
has gone down with Haley where sometimes it's like, we need this test run and we're
waiting too long for it. Like, you can just go to a lab.
Like, you can just go to Lab Corps or Quest or whatever.
And you could just pay cash and order most of those labs yourself without a
prescription and without a doctor's referral.
If it's just a blood test or a stool test, you can just show up and be like, I'd like to pay money for it.
And they're like, great, $49, please.
That's actually my fetish.
I have stool tests done all the time.
So, because there's been times where it's like, we can't get, oh, we know we need to get this test run.
But like the prescription for it hasn't come through.
It's like you can go get your own MRI done too.
Exactly.
Like, you can go get, there are places that do certain things.
Exactly.
So, like, just because he gets testing done doesn't mean that he's really under supervisory care.
And it could be that you get.
a test done and you don't have somebody there who can help walk you through it in a good way,
right? They may be walking you through it to be like, oh, well, your peptides are low or whatever.
And just a reminder, Dr. Oz is actually a doctor.
Yeah.
You know.
Calling all scientists, calling all scientists, be advised there will be a worldwide conference on global warming in Kyoto, Japan.
I've got a degree in homeopathic medicine.
You've got a degree in Bologna.
Speaking of Dr. Oz, I mean, it's not Dr. Oz necessarily.
Oh, Jesus.
From the AP, FDA panel on peptides will include experts who promote the unproven chemicals favored by RFK Jr.
Jesus Christ, dude.
Just this is, the peptide world is a crazy world.
I don't know a lot about it.
So I've read a little bit, and I've watched a little, a few, like, podcast and YouTube stuff about peptides.
Because I was kind of curious when I first started hearing about them.
Like, well, what are they?
there's a bunch of stuff, a bunch of like amino acids and peptides, some of which have some very shaky clinical evidence, mostly in animal models, that they may or may not do a good thing, such as increased muscle mass, burn fat, speed through healing, that kind of thing.
And there'll be some, like, small clinical studies that are mostly at the animal level, and then people get fucking over-excited about them.
Then these chemicals get, like, worked up in these labs, compounding pharmacies, and then other just random fucking Chinese peptide factories.
I'm not kidding at all.
And then they're marketed on these websites as not intended or intended only for research purposes, not for human use.
Jesus Christ.
Then you can go on and just buy them and then inject them into your body.
Inject them?
They're mostly injected.
Yikes.
Almost all of these are injected.
They're not like a consumer.
And then they do whatever they do.
Maybe nothing, maybe something.
maybe bad shit. Who knows? But there's not clinical, clinically reviewed long,
there's none of the evidence stuff. Like, it's like, it's kind of like the supplement in
industry if you're filling a needle full of ginko, biloba, and sticking it in your ass.
I have obviously listened to a lot of Joe Rogan, and I've heard Joe talk to some of his
guests. In fact, one of his guests came in and was talking about rehab that they were doing
for a part of their body. And I don't remember exactly who the person who he was talking to was
but he was talking to the person
and the person said, yeah,
I'm trying to rehab my shoulder or whatever
and Joe says,
do you use peptides?
And the person says, no, I don't.
He's like, do you want to heal?
Jesus.
So like, genuinely, Joe is trying to push these things
as if it's one of the only ways
that you can heal yourself.
And so he's,
and he has a guy who does this for him.
I know for sure that he's gotten these before in the past
and he pushes them on his show.
Talks about,
I don't know that he pushes a particular brand of them.
Right.
But he certainly talks about how they're influential to helping him maintain his physique at his age and things like that and stay out of, you know, rehab and the doctor's office and continually working out because he can fix all the problems with his body.
Which is by injecting.
By injecting.
Yeah.
Like here's what's crazy to be.
It's crazy to go ahead.
No.
But Jesus, the vaccine thing.
When you think about vaccines in comparison to these things.
I mean, it's insane.
I don't want a vaccine.
Don't inject me with that.
There's not been enough clinical trials.
Anyway, I'll take some BPC 157, please.
There's a million.
From amino asylum.
Fucking, so many studies done on vaccines and there's none on these and they're just like,
or they are, they're really shaky.
And they're like, well, you can go ahead and shoot that inject me with some crazy shit.
Because I might look good.
Yeah.
That's a big part of it, right?
So so much of this is about chasing a look, chasing a like some kind of like performance
game.
Sure. That they think that they need that like extra three or four or five percent edge that something might give them.
Like these these things are, think about how unproved. So they're not just like supplements, right?
It may or may not contain whatever it says is on the bottle. You have no idea. You have no idea what you're buying.
We've covered stories where the supplement industry, it's like some fucking grass clippings from the yard behind the factory, right?
Like have no idea there's no independent testing. There's no regulation, none of that stuff.
if there is independent testing, it's voluntary, it's a shaky industry. The peptide industry is
shakier even than that. Jesus. You have no idea what you're buying. You have no idea that the company
selling it to you even knows what they're buying or what the contaminant level is. So you don't,
you're getting a thing and you're saying, I want to get BPC 157 to help me promote healing and
like collagen regrowth and muscle rebuilding or whatever it is. Okay, awesome. I want some BBC 157.
What's the evidence for it? Well, the evidence.
is primarily in animal studies
and there's not really any good evidence in human
models. Still, I want it. All right, cool.
I'm going to go buy it. What's in this? I don't know.
Some website you don't know
is selling you a jar
like a little fucking vial
and you don't really know what's in it and there's no
way for you to test it and you're like, awesome.
This probably isn't a bunch of lead
from China or whatever. This is
certainly what it says in the bottle. I
trust it because I'm an idiot. Well,
there's
again, Joe Rogan has talked on his show about
making his supplements, the alpha brain stuff that he was making,
that supplement stuff would sometimes get contaminated because they had it tested.
And since it's not in like a very rigorous place,
sometimes it will get contaminated with stuff that shouldn't be in it.
So you might be getting stuff that you could be allergic to
or you could have a bad reaction to.
And there's no standards in places like that.
And there's nobody checking it.
It's not like somebody takes every 7,000th dose, tests it,
and then tells you, oh, they're off by X.
There's none of that.
There's not a thing that does that.
You can't trust that it works.
You can't trust that it's safe.
You can't trust that it contains what it says it contains.
You can't trust that it contains the amounts that it says it contains.
And you can't trust its sterility.
Right?
So you're injecting this into your body.
Straight up injecting it.
Your body is a little more forgiving about things that you ingest, right?
Because like we ingest food and we have a system with acids and enzymes and everything.
But you're just straight up.
pushing this into your body, you're injecting it into your body with no idea whether or not
what you're getting is actually even sterile.
Properly sterile.
And why do you have no idea?
Because you got it from some fucking website.
You don't, you should not trust.
Yeah.
You have no reason to trust it.
And this particular story is talking about how RFK is going to have this sort of panel and talk
about it.
And the people he's inviting are heavily invested in this particular market.
So these are influencers.
These aren't just, these are doctors.
sure they're doctors, you know, quote-unquote doctors, but they're influencers in this space.
Crazy.
These are people who are inextrably linked to the things they're trying to get past and make sure
that the government promotes and says is cool.
That's so conflict of interest adverse.
We shouldn't allow this sort of thing to happen.
And in fact, I think at one point a federal judge had even stepped in in a previous thing that
he had done and said, this is unprecedented.
and you shouldn't be allowing the people that are coming in to advise him,
you shouldn't allow that to happen.
But what we've seen from this president
and from all the people underneath him
is that there's just this giant grift of our government
that's happening right now.
These people never cared about any of the things
that they lied that they cared about.
They don't care about any of that stuff.
Any of the stuff that they ran on,
clearly they don't give a shit about.
What they care about is how they can enrich themselves
while they're in there.
And fucking RFK is no different.
This is a guy who,
who's embedded in this space,
who has been talking about things like this for a long time,
alternatives to medicine for a long time.
This is building his own brand
and the brand of all the people who he's friends with.
Yeah, it is a grift.
And we used to care about a conflict of interest.
We used to.
A conflict of interest used to be something
that you were like,
holy shit.
Stop the presses.
Trump was interviewed not that long ago.
I was listening maybe last week.
And they asked them some question
about his $2 billion that he's made
and he basically said something.
I'm paraphrasing only a little bit
that he realized that nobody cared.
He didn't get any credit for not
financially capitalizing
in his first administration. He said, I didn't get any credit
when I didn't do it in my first term
and I realized nobody cares.
And he fucking said it out loud.
I'm barely paraphrasing, Cecil.
He didn't get credit for not being openly corrupt.
What do you want?
What is that? That's nothing.
What it is is a liar
were in a corrupt person who suddenly realized that they can grift more.
Yeah.
It'd be like, I drove to the studio today.
Nobody, like, stopped me.
When I pulled up to the studio, nobody said, hey, way to not run any stoplights.
Yeah.
You didn't run over a baby on a stroller today.
Right.
So now when I drive home, I'm just going to run over babies with strollers because I didn't
get credit for not doing it the first time.
That's an insane way to think.
And that's the guy you put in.
That's it.
That's a guy who is so motivated self-interestly, in a self-interest.
in a self-interested way
that everything he does,
even his moral decisions
are all motivated by self-interest.
That tells you everything you need to know
that you shouldn't have put that person in the office.
But everybody underneath them
is everybody's cashing in.
Everybody's, look at what Cash Patel is doing.
Oh my God, I know.
He's just like, he's like fucking,
hey man, make it rain on this fucking private jet.
You can just do whatever he wants.
All of them are, look at what Nome was doing.
Look at how she was gallivanting all over the place.
These people, they knew as soon as they got in,
they're like, nobody's ever going to be able to do anything to us.
And you would think with Cash Patel that everything he does,
you would give a side eye to.
Yeah, absolutely.
Certainly one squinty.
What about people who say you're only interested in the Middle East for oil?
What?
Huh? Oil?
Who says in my oil, bitch, you cooking?
Hey, so we got to talk about this from New York Times.
Probably we'll talk about this for years.
now. Iran war updates. U.S. and Iran sink into violent cycle after latest strikes. Trump said the
ceasefire is over. So the, I thought we had a memorandum of understanding. We had, we had concepts of a
plan of a memorandum of understanding. Now we have a memorandum of not understanding. We have a memorandum of
misunderstanding. We have a memorandum of disinformation. Jesus Christ. It's so funny that,
that this guy starts this war. And then he has no idea how to get out of it. And you can tell he's just
begging to get out of it. He wants out so bad. He wants out so bad and he's such an idiot that he has
no idea how to fix it. He doesn't, the only way it's ever going to be fixed is if he gives up
way more concessions than anybody's ever done in the past. You've played all your cards.
You've done all the things. What he's done is he's spent every card that he ever had that
showed that he can, the last thing he could do is nuke them. That's the last thing. At this point,
there's nothing else that he could do that would be showing, you.
You can't do this in a way that's not going to be peaceful, right?
We have to, they realize now that they can essentially, with very little effort,
block that entire straight, and then fuck up ships and be like, yeah, we're just going to do this.
And then you bomb them for a while and they're like, cool, we're going to do it again.
And this is just a back and forth and back and forth.
And each time Israel keeps on doing stuff where they're blowing shit up and they're breaking rules
that we're trying to get things set up, this shows you everything you need to know about
how sticky and terrible that situation was and how, I don't want to say in a way that's like perfect,
but certainly how intelligently that was maneuvered by the administration and the Obama administration,
how they did a very good job of making sure that there was something there that prevented them from
having a nuclear weapon, but also did not put us in the hole and still made it seem like we were the
power players. You lost all that. It's all gone. It's all gone. Think about all the things that we
lost from this just in one fell soup. We've wildly damaged our relationship with our closest
allies in Europe. That's gone. We have basically taken the leash off of Israel to do whatever the
fuck they want in the region. And we're not going to say boo about it because there's really no
high ground that we can take, no pressure that we can exert. Now especially that we're back at war with
Iran, they can do whatever the hell they want as far as Lebanon and Hezbollah and the West Bank and
all of that. That's just whatever they want to do. They can do this. We're doing no pressure.
we gave Iran
a massive
economic weapon that they
didn't know they had before
with the Strait of Hormuz. And we said
look, this costs you almost nothing
and it costs us much
more than it cost you. And we're going to
tell you about it basically
and fuck ourselves
in the process.
What have we gotten out of this?
What has anybody gotten out of this? That's not Iran.
Iran came out of this with
a more hardline
leadership, much more hardline leadership. The guys who were in charge before were, by all accounts,
pragmatists who were at least willing to negotiate. Once you tear up the agreement, what's the lesson
you've taught them? Well, these negotiations aren't worth the paper. They're printed on. They don't survive
more than four years. In order for you to survive, you're going to have to behave differently
because this is not a long-term agreement, right? It could change at a moment's notice. Why even
bother signing it? All the lessons here are basically Iran has the power. And Iran has the power. And
is now more hard line than ever, more dug in than ever, and better equipped than they've ever been.
Maybe not as militarily well equipped, but we didn't even destroy their missile system, their missile building system.
We didn't get their nuclear, enriched nuclear materials out of the country.
We've accomplished nothing.
We've accomplished fucking nothing.
And we've hurt ourselves and everybody in the world is a process.
It's awesome.
We'll be here for years.
Yeah.
And I think that this is going to be a real difficult thing.
I guarantee you
I guarantee you
this isn't going to be cleared up by the time
the next president is chosen
I don't think it's going to be cleared up by then
I'll be surprised if it is
I'm willing to eat my words
sure right but at this point
the way it's it's been on and off
and on and often they've been realizing
that they can keep squeezing I don't think
that they're going to stop doing that
Trump's an easy mark to squeeze
he's a super easy mark
because he doesn't when when things get tough
he fucking sweats
his grease out of his body.
And then he's like, he just, he withers because he's a weak person.
And he's so reactive.
Yeah.
He's react, but he's weak as fuck, right?
And if he can get out of something and stop it, then he's way more apt to do that.
And so if it does get resolved, expect it to get resolved 100% in Iran's favor.
Exactly.
Yep.
All right.
That's going to wrap it up for this week on Thursday.
We'll be back with a long form.
show on the devil.
So you're going to want to check that out.
We'll be back on Monday
as well, and we're going to leave you like we always do
with the skeptics creed.
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It's fortune cookie cutter,
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