Cold Case Files - Fire Flicks
Episode Date: April 9, 2024A home video found wrapped inside a coat along the side of a California freeway documents a teenager’s disturbing crimes and breathes life into the hunt for a serial arsonist. Sponsors: Prog...ressive: Progressive.com Rosetta Stone: Cold Case Files listeners can get Rosetta Stone’s lifetime membership for 50% off when you go to RosettaStone.com/coldcase
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Look at the flames.
Listen to the coyotes yell.
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A young boy spies an army jacket wrapped up and abandoned along the side of the road.
He kicks at it, and a videotape shakes loose.
The boy picks up the tape, not yet realizing he holds the key to a cold case, some 50 miles distant.
Our story begins in San Mateo County, California.
Just south of San Francisco sits the county of San Mateo, home to the wealth of Silicon Valley.
Here, land is gold with million-dollar homes shoehorned onto tiny lots, each lot part of another block, each block eating away at the natural beauty of Northern California.
John DeLinges is an arson investigator
for the Woodside Fire Department.
This was really an open land area,
a lot of farms and horses and sheep up here.
They were like little ranches, country-type homes.
And now all of a sudden, the area's being built up with brand new big homes,
4,000 to 6,000 square foot.
As the hammers fall and the wood is cut,
resentment builds in the area and new housing starts to burn.
All of the houses were under construction.
We had a total of 11 fires that were all similarity in sets,
and all in the same vicinity, some on the same street.
Seven new homes in the span of 12 months burnt to the ground.
Fortunately, no one is hurt, but losses are in the millions.
DeLinges videotapes each of the fires and studies them, hoping to discern a pattern.
Messages scrawled on the walls provide
him with his first clue. There were handwritten messages written on the walls, neighbors revolt,
no more homes, experienced arsonists, number one, they don't leave clues. And there were a lot of
things that were left at the scene that indicated to us that juveniles were involved in it. A task force of state and local officials is formed. DeLinges begins
nightly stakeouts of the neighborhood. Kirk Landute from the California
Department of Forestry provides backup. We kind of felt that it was taking on a
little bit of a dangerous tone. I mean we had somebody that was very open about
burning these homes down and was straightforward about it.
You know, they just stepped up and burned these places.
In 1988, the spree continues.
Four more homes set on fire, bringing the total to 11 destroyed in the area.
One of the houses that was under construction that was set on fire was occupied.
People were asleep, smelled the smoke, called us, we got there, that was under construction that was set on fire was occupied.
People were asleep, smelled the smoke, called us.
We got there, and the owners had extinguished the fire.
As neighbors watch their homes burn, fear ripens into suspicion,
and a community begins to turn on itself.
Everybody was suspicious of everybody, and everybody was saying,
I think my neighbor might be doing this.
There was a lot of pressure put on everybody to get something going here,
and we just weren't able to really identify something.
We kept up the patrols and the nighttime surveillance work,
but we're still unable to find anybody that was responsible for setting these fires.
After three years of investigation,
the team is still no closer to finding their arsonist.
Frustration takes root,
and fresher cases are given priority.
By May of 1990, the task force has dwindled
to a precious few,
and the San Mateo fires case goes cold.
Highway 205, some 50 miles north of San Mateo County,
a truck breaks down, a father and son
got out to make repairs.
The fellow broke down about where that pickup is,
and he was gonna come to this house that's over here
to use the phone.
The boy sees an army jacket bundled in some bushes
along the side of the road.
And he kind of come in here and he kicked it.
And when he did, the cassette tapes and the videotape
fell out of the jacket.
The boy picks up the tape and brings it home.
This is the tape the family sees and hears.
Look at the fire.
Isn't it beautiful?
Look at it.
When they got home,
the father was viewing the videotape
and he stated that it scared him to death.
The family takes the tape to police
and eventually to George Wells, the fire investigator
for San Joaquin County.
When I first saw it, I immediately
thought that we were dealing with somebody
that was very disturbed.
This is hell.
My hell.
The whole sky is black with smoke.
The house captured on the video
is fully engulfed with fire.
The narrator and person making the tape claims to have also set the fire.
I told you I'd do it.
Wells concludes the blaze is not one his department is investigating.
The mysterious tape is then sent out to fire conferences across the state
and eventually to San Mateo County and investigator John DeLinges.
An investigator called us from Santa Clara County saying,
hey, we have this tape, we want to bring it to your task force.
I went to Sacramento, retrieved the tape, brought it back to San Mateo County,
and early in the morning we viewed it and went from there.
Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. This is hell.
At first, the task force has little luck in identifying the house or fire as one of the San Mateo fires.
Engine 7, battalion 2, command.
Then DeLinges remembers the videotapes he had made as part of his investigation into each of the fires.
Frame by frame, he compares his tapes against
the mysterious video. What I did was I took their tape, I set it up on a TV screen, and I set my
tape, the fire department tape, on a TV screen and looked at them both. He viewed a lamp post,
a PG&E power pole, a trailer that began to pop up.
The telephone and trailer highlighted in these frames of video
are the keys for DeLingis, who pinpoints the house
as one of the first to burn in Redwood City.
DeLingis revisits the site and comes to a chilling realization.
Whoever videotaped the blaze had stood behind a screen of bushes
less than 50 feet from Dalingis
on the night of the fire.
The fire department is trying to put it out.
To have somebody who was setting fires and hiding up in the bushes behind me filming
the same fire that I'm filming, and I've never ever had this happen to me before.
Look at the flames!
Listen to the coyotes yell.
After three years, this bizarre tape
has given cold case investigators
their first real break in the case.
They believe whoever made the video
either set the San Mateo fires or knows who did.
Next, the investigation goes public.
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Look at the fire. It's beautiful. Look at it.
This tape found wrapped inside a coat along the side of a California freeway has breathed new life into the hunt for what cold case investigators believe to be a serial arsonist. This case was very unusual and incredibly interesting from our standpoint because of that mechanism of the tape,
geographically where it was found and how it came back to us.
That was a pretty amazing thing in itself.
I said I'll do it. I said I'll do it.
The narrator on the tape appears to be claiming responsibility for setting the fire.
Cold case investigators reach out to the public in an effort to put a name to that voice.
We had another task force meeting.
We said we know where the fire was, and it's tied into all of our other fires.
So therefore, we decided we were going to put it on television.
On September 9th, Unsolved Mysteries airs the mysterious video.
San Joaquin fire investigator George Wells is in Los Angeles,
where they field more than 1,800 phone calls.
Phone calls came from all the way from Australia, Canada,
throughout the United States.
A lot of weird phone calls, psychics and all this.
During the last 30 minutes of the show's feed,
the team gets five calls, all from San Mateo County.
It was either the third or the fourth call
where somebody called in,
and they even described a young man.
That caller is Doris Lance, a neighbor in the area.
We were sitting watching Unsolved Mysteries.
I was looking at it and looking at it, and it looked just like the fire we watched burn,
you know, a year or so earlier.
Dare I see it, Omar?
I told you I'll do it.
Lance believes the name mentioned might very well belong to her 17-year-old neighbor.
Look at it, Omar.
She said it was a kid that lived across the street whose name
was Omar.
So that name was a concern to us because that was a name that
was used on tape.
Cold case investigators
decide to talk to Lance's 17-year-old neighbor
to discover if he is the person mentioned on the video.
And if so, why?
Redwood City Police Detective Mark Palio
questions the boy.
Initially, this youth denied any knowledge
or involvement in the arson or the taping of the fire.
The 17-year-old is brought into the police station
and questioned further.
In short order, his story begins to crumble.
We pressured him a little more,
and eventually he did admit that he did know about it.
Had not seen the tape until it was aired on TV, though,
but his friend who burnt the house
had told him he did videotape it.
The boy gives Palio the name of a second youth,
an 18-year-old who investigators believe
actually made the video and perhaps set
the house on fire. Police put the second youth under
surveillance. Before they can act, however, the suspect's
garage goes up in flames, providing DeLinges and Landute
with a free look inside the suspect's house.
And while investigating that particular fire, we came across some evidence that was
disturbing to us. We found animal parts. We found what appeared to be,
you know, I hate, I don't want to say sacrifices, but we found things that led us to believe that
animals were being cut apart, were being sacrificed. We found a cutting table with a big blade.
We found knives with blood on them.
We found a Freddy Krueger mask, Freddy Krueger fingers.
It was a concern to us at this time that the kid that lived here needed some help.
Definitely put him as the number one suspect. On September 27, 1990,
they bring the 18-year-old into the station for questioning. He broke down and cried and
eventually started admitting that he had committed this one arson. Inside the boy's home, they find
more tapes and more evidence that he may have been involved in more than just one fire.
The arsonist's message is spray painted on the wall.
Home video documents the boy's fascination with television coverage of the fires.
There's also a scrapbook of sorts, a collection of newspaper clips on the fires.
What we find in serial arson type cases is the suspect will document his acts in some way, keep newspaper
articles, write a diary, what have you. But in the age of the video camcorder, we're finding
that more often suspects will use that to videotape their feats. And in this case, I
believe the suspect just wanted to document what he was doing to maybe perhaps relive it later or just just have fun. But his fun appears to extend
beyond a mere video diary. Sifting through the collection of tapes, cold
case investigators happen upon a fascination with violence and satanic images.
I'm on my way to get that fat son of a bitch,
and I'm gonna kill him.
He had videos of him wearing bizarre outfits.
One in particular was he was dressed up as Dracula,
and he had a picture behind him looking at it saying, you're next.
I'm hungry tonight because tonight is the night where all evil and satanic worshippers come.
Where Satan rises again and fulfills the destiny of hatred and evil and sin.
The kid was, definitely needed some help.
And now, to finish the job.
This final tape provides police with what they believe to be a motive for the fires.
A home video of two of the boys questioned in the case,
playing army in Edgewood Park near the scene of the fire.
According to cold case investigators, it was this park that the 18-year-old felt compelled to protect
and in doing so, almost burned a neighborhood to the ground.
This was their neck to the ground.
This was their neck of the woods. This was their area. They had played in there. They
had done military games. They had done sacrificial kinds of ceremonies out there.
They pretty much didn't like this area being developed and that is the reason for him setting these fires.
This is my domain. Although investigators feel certain the 18-year-old was responsible for the
string of fires in San Mateo County, they allow him to plead guilty to a single count of arson.
They're focused more on rehabilitation than punishment. We also felt that the way the kids were going and the road that they were going down
could easily have escalated to something else.
Your house is next!
In this case, we were able to identify him, stop him, and get him treatment.
So hopefully it will never happen again.
Today, this section of San Mateo was quiet. The development boom has slowed but not subsided.
For fire investigator John DeLinges, this area has been home for most of his adult life.
He's seen it change, seen it grow, and seen the pains that come with growth.
DeLinges views his job as a simple one, to serve and protect. In the case
of the San Mateo arson fires, it was a responsibility he did not take lightly, nor relinquish easily.
Our agency attributes the success of the case to Captain DeLinges out of Woodside, and
he refused to let go of it. It was an investigation I wasn't going to close,
and my job was to stay on as long as I had to in order to solve it. It was an investigation I wasn't going to close, and my job was to stay on as long as I had
to in order to solve it. A postscript to the strange story of the San Mateo fires, the 18-year-old
who made the video told detectives he had given the tape to a relative who, for some unknown reason,
wrapped it up in an army jacket and left it alongside a California highway.
That single slip-up was the 18-year-old's downfall,
providing cold case detectives with enough of a trail to lead them back to the young man's very doorstep.
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