Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - A Thanator Around Your Neck (Anna Konkle, Griffin Newman, Connor Ratliff, Anna Bezahler)
Episode Date: January 19, 2026Actor, writer and director Anna Konkle is here to talk about her role in the movie “Untitled Home Invasion Romance,” as well as her upcoming memoir “The Sane One.” Then, filmmaker James Camero...n and Na’vi resistance leader Jake Sully deliver breaking news about the future of the “Avatar” franchise! And somatic therapist Leaf Clover helps everyone get in touch with their bodies. Don’t forget to check out the Comedy Bang! Bang! Action Figures at shop.figurecollections.com and go to actionfigureseller.com for international purchases. If you want more great episodes of Comedy Bang! Bang! become a subscriber at comedybangbangworld.com. We have all of the past episodes from the archives, every live show, ad-free new episodes, and original shows like CBB Presents and Scott Hasn’t Seen. Find more great Comedy Bang! Bang! merch at https://www.podswag.com/collections/comedy-bang-bang Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang for another week.
My name is Scott Ackerman.
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and we have an exceptional show.
We have two actors today.
We have a filmmaker.
Well, I guess they're both film.
Two of them are both filmmakers.
One, I would be interested if the other actor
has ever directed a film.
And we also have a therapist here on the show today.
So that's, that's, I think this is going to be an airtight show.
And let's, let's not waste any more time getting to it, you know?
I mean, we have quite honestly,
someone who is entering the three-timers club today here on Comedy Bang Bang,
and that's always an exciting day for us.
You know her as the co-creator and co-star of the critically and audiencely acclaimed television show, Penn 15.
You know her from the after-party season two.
You know her from the drop season one.
It's a movie.
I call movie seasons, okay?
You don't need to correct me.
You're in the three-timers club.
You can relax.
Apologies.
You've made it.
I know.
I'm going to recline.
Is there a way?
I'm good.
Her chair just went all the way down to the ground.
You need to get grounded here.
No, I apologize.
I did not see the drop.
Please send me a link.
Anna is telling me she'll send me a link.
Yeah, I'll send you a link.
Okay.
But what else would we know you from?
Because I know you from those three things, one of which I've not seen.
Fair, very fair.
What else would you know me from?
Oh, MurderBot.
Murder bot?
Yes, I was reading about MurderBot today.
It's a really good show.
Okay.
Yeah, oh, thanks, y'all.
Get a lot of thumbs up from the panel.
Yeah, I got to play really crazy character last year.
That was cool.
Were you the titular MurderBot or were you someone who was murdered?
I think enough times gone by that I can, it was sort of like a, a,
I was a decoy.
Oh, decoy murder bot.
A decoy, like, rescue survivor from a, from a crash that was in love with Alexander Scargard's AI botness.
Okay.
And I'm trying to, like, hook up with him essentially.
Oh, yeah.
Did you ever get to hook up with him both in the movie and the real life?
Yes, yes.
Wow.
And yes.
Just kidding.
Ladies love him, right?
You don't have to say just kidding, by the way.
You're in the three-timers club.
So it's just everything here is just.
known as a joke. That's actually a huge relief. Yeah, yeah, no, he's lovely, though. People,
people love him. And he's very funny. He's very, very funny. He's very, very funny. I met a
party once. He was nice. Yeah. You guys? Did we fuck? Yeah. That's what I mean by party.
I know, I know. If I meant cocaine party, I'd be tapping the side of my nose. No,
this was a sex party. This was a sex party. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay, cool.
So please let's welcome her.
I haven't said your name yet.
Oh, no one knows.
Please let's welcome her.
Anna Conkel is back.
Welcome to the three-timers club.
Thank you so much.
I'm so happy to be here.
So great to see you again.
You, of course, first came on in the throes of Penn 15.
And then for the after-party season two, where you had a nice little Wes Anderson episode of that show.
And we, I don't think enough time has passed to say that you're the murderer or not in that.
So, I die.
Okay.
Is that all right?
You're not the murderer.
Although you can be the murderer who turns the gun upon himself once he's got.
I try to kill everybody in it.
And then someone explodes my head.
Now you are in a new film.
And now this is a real head scratcher here.
I agree.
Because you're in a new film.
I've been hearing about this film for about a month.
And when I heard about it a month ago, it was called Untitivated.
home invasion romance.
Correct.
And then I assumed in between me requesting you to come on the show and you being here that eventually that it would change and I would have the new information.
I got the press materials today and it still says untitled home invasion romance.
And so I asked you, are they ever going to title this thing?
It's coming out next week.
And that is the official title.
That is the title.
But I mean, some of the cast, when we went to the very first screening, we were like, I wonder why.
they're going to title it. This is crazy. And then we realized at the very end and put it together.
And yeah, that's the title. And that, uh, there's something to realize about it at the very end?
No. No. Just at the very end. They just ran out of time. That's it. Oh, you thought they were going to
title it during the run time of the movie. Correct. The movie ended. It didn't get titled.
And they're going with it. And I respect it. Um, yeah, it is relevant to the story.
Okay. Well, let's talk about, let's talk about, let's talk about what.
this is. This is the first time director, but we all know him from such films as American Pie and
that one Woody Allen. We don't have to talk about that. But Jason Biggs has directed this. Did he
write it too? I can't. He didn't write it. He didn't write it, but he was a wonderful director.
And he also stars in it. Yes. And there are, there's someone else who had a bio. Megan Rath.
Megan Rath, who was wonderful in it. And Arturo Castro.
Arturo Castro is in this as well.
This is a stacked cast.
It's stacked.
Huge.
It's an intriguing premise for a film.
Uh-huh.
But I'd like you to say it.
Because I don't think I could do it justice.
Well, it's untitled.
I'll tell you that.
It is, so basically Jason and the character that Jason plays in is obviously, it's not a doc.
So it's not Jason and he's also playing a character.
It's just him playing a character in this.
There's a lot of people come and they go, Jason Biggs in a movie.
And then he's playing someone named Phil.
And you're like, hold on.
I want to see Jason Biggs in this movie.
Right.
Correct.
Yes.
So it's a doc about him directing.
Oh, okay.
His first.
So you don't see the narrative, but you just see him directing.
Okay, good.
I'm just kidding.
So the cameras are pointed the wrong way and they said, let's make the most of this and turn
into a documentary.
That's right.
Okay.
No.
So Jason and his wife, who Megan plays, are on the rocks and about to get a divorce,
essentially.
Oh, no.
And it is the,
It is a thriller, if you're wondering.
It's a comedy thriller.
It's also a home invasion romance.
Correct.
Untitled.
And he surprises her on a weekend getaway after one of his acting classes because he's an actor.
He does a lot of commercials and he's trying to like, you know, become bigger.
Sort of what Zach Braff did in that one movie.
True.
Yes.
Got it.
And then and then so he surprises her by going back.
to her hometown. She's not too thrilled about that. With her. With her. Okay. He's like, babe,
this is going to be a, you know, a great escape. That's the line. A great escape. Babe, this is
going to be a great escape. That was the first line of the movie. That's, oh, really, fade in.
Fade in. Babe, this is going to be a really great escape. Now, do it. Does anyone say,
this movie should be called the Great Escape? Yeah, I suggested it. Okay. It's not,
during the, when you were watching it at the premiere. Yeah, at the premiere. Yeah, exactly.
Hey, Jason.
Pst.
I know,
there's no title yet.
Oh, God,
I'm going to belabor that joke
for a long time.
Okay.
And, yeah,
and shit goes wrong.
She has a chance
of having a dark past
in her hometown.
What I was reading in the press materials.
Yeah, what did they say?
They said that,
the marriage is crumbling.
Mm-hmm.
And in order to get
sort of the spark back into it,
he stages a fake home invasion
that then,
goes wrong. In order to play
the hero. That's a better description.
Yes. Wasn't sure if they were saving that.
It's right there in the press materials.
As far as I'm concerned, there was no embargo on these materials that I could see.
No.
So I'm just going to say it right here.
Yeah, that's correct.
Honestly, pretty skimpy press materials. It just said that.
Okay. Then it had a full page cover letter from Jason Biggs about what he wanted to do with the movie.
Actually? Oh, wow.
And then three bios and out.
Okay. Was I one of the bios?
Your bio was extensive, like longer than the others.
And yet we can't remember what I'm in because there hasn't been that much.
It also seemed like it hadn't been edited recently because I think a couple of times it reiterated the same points.
It was like someone just added to it and then didn't read the part above it or something like anyway.
No one reads press materials.
Except you, every line.
Did it say that I drive stick shift like shit like that?
Oh, no. That's not in there.
Yeah.
I'm going to add it in there.
That was in my old resume.
Because I think I had an editing privileges on these?
Yes, probably.
They're probably still passing around the Google sheets to every, because it's on title.
It is in a Google Dropbox link for me.
Yeah, I think you could make an edit.
Thanks.
Well, and then, so you're not one of the two in this marriage.
You're someone in the hometown, I guess.
I'm, of course, the sheriff.
Ah, she's the sheriff.
I'm the town sheriff.
But could I be anything else?
Uh-oh.
No. No, you're not? No, I can't. The answer's no. Okay, you can't be anything. I mean, it takes up a lot of your time when you're the sheriff, if I would imagine. Yeah, there's not time for anything else. It was the perfect casting choice. Because you probably sleep eight hours a night. Correct. And then there's 16 left in the day. She goes to bars a lot. Okay. Okay. She kind of fucks around in the cruiser, as we call it. Okay. Ring the lights. As we say, ring the lights. We say ring the lights, brother.
Now, as someone who is, of course, ACAB, I don't know how to feel about...
A cab?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
A cab.
You playing a law enforcement officer.
Right.
But, you know, maybe this will pull the, you know, the curtain.
Well, you know, I'm not a Democrat.
Oh, no, I didn't know that.
Oh, cool.
Let's talk about this off air.
I'm just kidding.
I was raised by two hippies.
I'm a Democrat.
Were you really raised by two hippies?
I was, yeah.
Your mother and father or just two other hippies?
Yeah, we don't.
There was a whole gaggle of them.
But yeah, I ended up with just two with their friends.
Where did you grow up?
Vermont and hippie and hippie.
Sort of like Ben and Jerryville.
Yeah.
But we moved to Massachusetts eventually.
What did you mean?
Who raised you?
Oh, yeah.
No, we tried.
I got kicked out.
Oh.
Yeah.
No.
Ben and Jerry's, yeah.
Yeah, fantastic.
Vermont.
Vermont. Wow. Yeah. And have you always wanted a lifetime in the arts?
Yes, actually. Good question, right? I kind of did. Yeah, that's a great question.
Yeah, I kind of did. I really, I liked doing kind of theater in my town.
Did you do community theater? Community theater. Yeah, what shows did you do?
Oh, gosh. I really came out strong with Annie.
Oh, okay. Were you the titular Annie?
No.
Ms. Hanigan?
No.
Whoever hangs out with Daddy Warbucks and does whatever he says?
No.
I was Tessie.
Oh, who's Tessie?
Nobody knows who Tessie is.
They don't call it Tessie.
For nothing.
She says she's the one that goes, oh my goodness, oh my goodness.
And she steps on Ms. Hanigants.
She steps on Ms. Hanigens.
It's a running thing.
She says it all the time.
You guys remember?
Thank you so.
She is, she's big.
If you got the right lens on, she's a fellow orphan.
Correct.
Okay.
And she never gets adopted.
You know, it's been a minute.
And we're presuming that all of the people in the movie and play Annie are dead by now, right?
Wait, what?
I was thinking about.
All the characters would be dead at this point, right?
At this point.
In Annie?
Because it's seven to 30s, so everyone is probably dead.
Just about.
Yeah, yeah, they're gone.
Sandy.
They're gone.
Miss Hannigan rooster.
They're all dead.
Yeah, I like to think Tessie was adopted.
maybe she ran away for a bit.
It wasn't a good home.
So when we watch this thing,
why do we care about what happens to them
if they're all just dead anyway?
Well, that's, I mean,
why is anyone listening to this podcast?
You know what I mean?
Good point.
I still have not been able to figure that out.
Well, I'm just saying we all will die.
Is that what you meant?
Oh.
I don't think I will, actually.
How so?
Well, I haven't yet.
Okay.
So.
Why wouldn't you?
Because I don't want to.
Okay.
Do you have some special tricks?
No tricks. I'm just going to refuse.
Uh-oh.
I run pretty fast. I can outrun lady death.
Okay. Lady death.
All right. Okay. So if an illness came for you at some point.
That's the problem is when you get really sick and you're in your hospital bed, that's when you can't run really fast.
Okay.
So that's why most people die when they're sick.
True. Most, but not you.
Nope.
Mentally, you're not there. You're somewhere else.
I'm going to keep on the peloton, keep the leg strength.
Well, we could talk about telepathy tapes, but I won't make us.
Okay, thank you.
Sure, no problem.
I hear enough about that upstairs.
Really?
Is it on a lot?
I believe so.
Yeah, it's really noodling in that brain of mine.
Yeah, it's fine.
What's next on the horizon?
Obviously, untitled home invasion romance is available to rent or buy on January 27th,
which is Tuesday of next week.
What's next on the horizon for Anna Conkel?
You're very good with dates.
And I mean that, honestly.
I wrote it down.
But to know it's Tuesday, you wrote that down?
Well, I remembered it.
Wow.
I looked it up in the calendar.
I was like, oh, when's this on sale?
And then I said, oh, Tuesday, January 27th.
Then I wrote down January 27th.
And I said, I don't need to write down Tuesday.
I'll remember it's Tuesday.
I did.
Wow, that's actually really impressive to me.
And I mean some thumbs up myself.
I mean that genuinely.
But what?
What's up?
Obviously, you're going to, you've been refusing all offers until this comes out,
a lot John Travolta and Pulp Fiction.
And once this comes out,
the flood of offers comes in.
That's the idea.
Yeah.
No one's seen me as a sheriff yet.
I did.
I did.
Do you hope for more sheriff rolls?
Of.
Were you upset when Milakunis got the sheriff and wake up dead man in theaters now?
I have yet to see that trailer, but I'm going to look it up after this.
You're going to look at the trailer first.
Yeah, to know for sure.
To know whether you're going to press play on the actual.
Exactly.
I did attempt to write a memoir that's out in May.
Oh, really?
And that's probably a huge mistake.
You attempted to write a memoir.
Well, I did write one.
Okay, you did write one.
It is out in May.
What's it called?
Do we know?
It's called the sane one.
The sane one.
And does that have anything to do with your relationship and your family with everyone else in your family?
It does.
Yeah.
Wow.
And so it starts when?
The book.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Well, it technically...
Like your earliest memory?
It starts in more present times than you go back.
Ooh.
In media res.
Correct.
I don't know why I keep saying correct, but I'm really going to think about a long time in the car after this.
Don't listen to this back.
Yeah, I won't.
That's the pledge.
We ask of all of our guests.
Cross my heart.
So is it a lot about your childhood and then does it follow you into your lifetime in the arts?
It's so, yeah, it's all about Tessie and sort of like what that did to me.
No, you know, I haven't talked about it in any interview yet.
So I'm going to do a really bad job talking about it.
But yeah, I mean, it sort of runs the gamut as any good memoir does.
That was a joke.
Yeah, my parents in Penn 15 wrote about this a bit, but like their divorce happened around middle school.
And it sort of when I was in middle school.
No, no, they were in middle school.
Yes, I was in middle school.
And like the saga of trying to keep them together on success.
successfully. And then being very, very close with my dad when I was little and then an
estrangement in my later years as an adult and seeing if like kind of exploring the past of what
happened and seeing if we can fix it before it's too late. And like not to give spoilers. Yeah. But did
you fix it or is it still? Is the answer no, you can't fix it? No, we actually did. I don't know. There's
not a clear answer on if you should or if you can. But we, I was lucky.
we didn't speak for,
we probably didn't speak for a year.
We didn't see each other for five years.
Wow.
So that was too long,
but it was like my absolute best that I could do
to get my shit together.
I'm not the same one, spoiler.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
So, yeah, I would presume that it would be you
because you had the faculties to write a book.
Right, no, you'd be wrong.
Yeah, that's actually.
Was it a book just a bunch of gibberish?
Because you're insane?
Yeah.
I made that joke to my editor.
You did not.
I don't think he appreciated that one.
I would start to just write nonsense.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
Well, that's fantastic.
And who's your publisher?
Random house.
Random house.
So back in with the sanity of it all, it's very random over there.
Yeah.
I only, that's right.
That's what, yeah, it had to be them.
Yep.
For that reason.
That's great.
I expect to be reading the old gray lady.
Of course, my beloved New York Times.
one day and see it right there in the bestsellers.
Oh, that would be really wonderful and terrifying.
Wouldn't that be amazing to see?
That would be cool.
Yeah, it would be cool.
And you don't have to sell a lot to get in there.
No?
No.
How many?
Honestly, like 7,000.
Really?
Can you imagine?
If you sold 7,000 of anything else, you'd be a failure.
Wow, is that true?
This is true.
I think so.
stats. Well, it depends on the chart. I do have to say, because we have a comedy bang, bang,
book and we were on the chart. But it depends on the chart because maybe your chart is a little
harder, but maybe not. I'm not quite sure. But I mean, honestly, books? What's a chart?
You know, there's different charts for like, oh, this is nonfiction. This is fiction. This is,
I forget what chart we were in. But they have about 180 of them every week, right? And it just depends on,
because there's a lot of competition in certain ones, you know.
Of course.
And so, but, but I think, I think the bar is low for books because no one reads them anymore.
Love that. Yeah. That's exactly where I need to be.
So people can pre-order it now?
Yes. And it's out May 5th.
May 5th. Yes.
I don't know that you'll be back for a four-timers club in between now and then.
So yeah, we got to get everything out now about it. This is, this is incredible.
And is it hardback? Is it paperback or is it somewhere in between?
Well, I don't know the insinuations of what this means.
but at the moment it is hard back.
That's good.
That's good?
You want it hard.
Really?
I like it hard.
Yeah, you want it rock hard.
Yeah.
I like it soft after a few months, but hard at first.
You know what I mean?
Are you adding anything to the paperback?
Should it come out in paperback a few?
I didn't even know that was a thing.
Yeah, a lot of people like, what do you add?
You add like a nut, like, oh, to entice people who may have bought it before.
Like you add another chapter where it's like, oh, since then, my dad read the book and said,
oh, holy shit.
I had no idea that.
I was such an asshole.
And so he wrote to me, you know, whatever might have it.
That's interesting.
My mom sues me, something like that.
You, of course, read about the lawsuits.
Right.
Yeah.
The most talked about lawsuit since the Jason Baldoni.
Of course.
Of course.
My mom.
Yeah.
Well, this is great.
I can't wait to read this.
Cool.
Hopefully it'll be in that drop box for the untitled.
Yeah.
And it's still,
I'm still doing some final edits.
So I'm going to send it over to you just give, yeah, anything you want to add.
I'll do my pass.
Perfect.
Perfect, perfect.
I'll do a ponjia.
Do you have any questions about my dad?
Like, I'll, you know, I'm on my phone.
Put me in touch with them.
Okay, absolutely.
I appreciate that.
Well, untitled home invasion romance is out on January 27th and people can rent it and they can buy it.
This is the Jason Biggs starring film that he also directed, um, where Anna plays a sheriff.
And then her, uh, memoir is out.
It's called the Sane One.
And this is out May 5th.
Is that right?
And that I would imagine would be a Tuesday as well.
Am I correct about that?
No, it's Wednesday.
I'm just kidding.
I have no idea.
I think it's a two.
I think all books come out on Tuesday.
Wait, if this is Tuesday, my phone's off.
I was trying not to be.
May 5th is a Tuesday.
Come on.
Yeah.
I also say you're probably not going to come back for it because May 4th is our anniversary
show.
Yeah, I'll be there on May 4th.
Yeah, yeah, not a problem
All right, we'll see you then
I'm making a verbal commitment to you
Me as well
Any pen 15s in the
Coming up ever again
Penn 16 pen 17
10 18 pen 18 pen 19
Well it's just 15 you know what I mean
Because it's an is like penis
What?
Pen, do you ever understand the title
Well most people don't
So that's fair if the answer is now
I do remember the first time you were on the show
Did I explain it then?
I must have.
No, I thought, I just said, they both have a new show called penis.
Oh, so you get it.
That's perfect.
But then you told me it was Penn 15, and ever since then, I've been like, oh, it's because of the ages.
Oh, that's so lame of me that I corrected you then and now.
You know what I mean?
Just fucking take me out.
That would be very valid.
Transverton N said it.
And the world listened.
Take me out.
Take me out.
Here they are, ladies and gentlemen, Franz Ferdinand.
Well, this is a great year for you.
This is going to be your year.
2026.
Is this my year?
2025 was dog shit for everybody, right?
Were you affected by the fires at all?
We evacuated, but we were lucky that, you know, that was the extent of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We evacuated our bowels when we saw the fire.
Sorry?
We were frightened.
And then we left.
But 2025 was terrible, but 26 is going to be your year.
Okay.
This is the year of Anna Conchal.
I cannot wait.
I would imagine you're going to be probably in...
39.
What's that?
I'll be 39 this year.
Yeah.
I think that though at the end of the year, when Time Magazine comes out with that, like, oh, top 100 entertainers of the year.
I mean, you've conquered movies.
You've conquered books.
Yes.
You'll probably be on TV more, right?
We'll see.
We'll see.
Been doing indie films, but TV's probably on the way.
Okay.
This is incredible.
So Untitled Home Invasion Romance out next week on Tuesday, January 27th, and May 5th for the same one.
We're going to take a break.
When we come back, we have, you like movies, right?
Watching them, not just starring in them.
It's hard for me to watch.
I'd rather star.
Because you're always seeing, like, different choices you would make.
Correct.
Yeah, exactly.
But we do have a filmmaker coming up and we have the star of some of his movies.
I can be supportive.
Okay, great.
Okay, and not just jealous the whole time?
No, no.
I'll put myself to the side.
And maybe it'll get me a job.
Okay, yeah, that's true.
I mean, I think they're making more of these films.
Okay, yeah.
I don't mind auditioning on this mic.
Okay, great.
When we come back, very exciting.
We will have James Cameron and Jake Sully from Avatar Fire and Ash here.
This is big.
When we come back, we're going to have more Anna Conkel.
And we'll have James Cameron and Jake Sully.
We'll be right back with more comedy bang, bang, bang after this.
Comedy Bang Bang, Bang, Bang, we're back.
We have Anna Conchall here of Untitled Home Invasion Romance.
January 27th is the day where you can finally rent and or buy this.
Would you suggest people rent it and then buy it?
Or do you think they could just, with full confidence, buy it before checking it out on a rental?
What do you think?
Because it'll cost more if they rent it and then if they buy it after that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I don't think they take off the difference of, oh, you rented it for five?
No.
$5, okay, or $10.
It's probably more like $10.
Okay, well, discount that when you buy it.
They don't do that.
So you would just say buy it, right?
You gotta buy it.
Yeah.
Are you a profit participant in this film?
I don't think so.
Do you have any sort of any residuals on this at all?
I'd have to check.
Can you get that information and get back to be before the show is over?
You don't mind if I turn my phone on?
Oh, yeah, please, yeah.
Okay, yeah, I'm going to just text my managers.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
What are all those alerts?
Oh, sorry.
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
Who's trying to get a hold of you?
My lawyer again.
Your lawyer again?
My mom.
Oh, okay, because of the suit.
I can't talk about it.
Okay, got it.
Sorry.
Go ahead and feel free to get back to those during the show because we have a couple of dynamite
guests here.
They are, one is the filmmaker who wrote and directed the film.
And the other is the star of it.
please welcome back to the show.
I believe they're in the Three Timers Club as well.
James Cameron and Jake Sully.
Hello, Scott.
Thank you for having us back on.
Hello, Scott.
Thank you for welcoming us into the Three Timers Club.
I do have to correct you right off the bat.
I did direct the movie and I wrote it,
but I'd be remiss if I didn't credit the team
that wrote Avatar, Fire, and Ash.
I couldn't have done it myself.
Screenplay by me, Rick Jaffin, Amanda Silver.
Of course, the story also had contributions from Josh Friedman and Shane Salerno.
That's a big group to do something so...
It's a big movie.
It's a big movie.
It's a big movie, Scott.
Was it just like everyone got tired because it's so long and they just fell asleep?
And then someone was like, oh, let me take it over.
Sometimes, yeah, we'd ride in shifts because the movie's long.
And when you're writing a long movie, sometimes you got to take a nap.
Scott's attempting some of his classic burns.
You're doing some of your burns on us.
I get it.
We survive fire and ash.
We can take your burns.
Scott, I'd be remiss if I didn't correct you as well.
I would hate for either of you to be remiss.
I'd be remiss as well.
I'd be remiss as well.
I'd be remiss. I'd be furious at myself for being remiss.
You said that I was the star of the picture, but actually I think there are no small parts, only small navie.
And everyone's a star.
It's an ensemble cast.
And I, in fact, I think of every crew member on that set.
And I think that almost all of them are as much the star of the picture as I am, even
though I was top of the call sheet.
Right.
I just want to address the elephant in the room right out of the way, which
Or the Navi in the room because there are no elephant.
There are elements.
Unobtainium. Unobtainium is one of the elements famously.
There are elephants, but there are thanators, dire horses, bunchies.
And to address, if those were in the room, we'd address them as well.
We'd address them.
We'd address them right off the back.
But now you're on Earth, so you want to address elephants.
It's a bittersweet day for us coming to you, Scott, because obviously we're honored to be inducted into the three-timers club.
It's been a dream.
I'm just guessing about the three-timers club.
It's no, that's a fact.
Well, you made these robes.
I love the robes.
We love the robes.
We love the robes.
But they have a little, some stitching on there that says, I'm just guessing.
Yes.
Yeah.
Look, usually we come on here and it's a victory lap.
We're so excited to make big announcements.
Usually I come on here.
I feel like the king of the world again.
Usually we are the kings of the world and you do, we do our bit where you make fun of us
and act like you don't love the movies.
Well, I, by the way, Anna, by the way, Anna, by the actor.
Hey.
Big fan.
Huge fan.
Oh, what have you seen?
Congratulations on your tremendous year.
It must.
Congratulations.
It must feel great.
The year of conkel.
We've been there before.
If you need a drop box link to the drop, she's passing him out like just candy.
Absolutely.
I love the link to the drop.
We actually, we didn't want to speak yet off mic because it wasn't our segment.
We hadn't been introduced yet.
But we looked at each other and we said, oh, Scott should have said she's conqualing the industry because he said conquering.
And we looked at each other.
We mouth.
We mouth the word.
This is true.
We said conkel.
He should have said conkel.
Here's another thing I call it.
It's a small note.
I'm kind of glad you didn't.
jump in at that point.
I think it would have interrupted.
Oh, well, if we can make you kind of glad that this just warms the conkles of my heart.
Yeah, that's a good joke.
To be honest, it's made me feel more than any of the movies that I've seen.
Okay.
Scott, Scott, I understand.
Okay.
Okay.
That's usually the banter.
Normally, we could take that.
We could put up with it.
You're hitting us at our lowest.
Are you a fan of these, Anna?
Are you these avatar movies?
Yes, I loved the first one.
Well, everyone loved the first one.
That's easy to say.
I'm just so sad we aren't here.
for your Thanksgiving episode, having released such a turkey.
It's a shame that we come in here with such shame, holding.
It was our mistake for releasing Avatar Fire and Ash in the middle of flopped timber.
You admit that Avatar Fire and Ash was not a success?
Scott, it's a fact.
It's a fact.
And if you're going to drag this out of us, yes, we do have to come here,
hat and hands, and admit we humbly and shamefully admit here today that in less than one
month, Avatar Fire and Ash has only made $1.5 billion.
It's embarrassing. It's terrifying.
Is that how much money it's made, really?
We have to admit that the industry...
People don't want to go to the movies.
That's the only explanation. The movies are dead, and we try to hardest save.
Avatar 1 is the first ranked movie of all time.
It's the highest grossing film of all time worldwide.
If you don't adjust for inflation.
And then, of course...
We're currently only the number 29th.
We're 20 all the way down at all time.
We're just barely, barely cracking the top 30, though, at this point.
It's not looking good.
At this rate, we're only going to end up at two bill even.
Yeah, and the last time we came in here, we were, we were full of bluster and confidence.
We were telling you how many sequels we were going to make.
We announced we were going to make infinite avatars.
You did.
You announced so many sequels, but now we, I think there, wasn't there an interview you gave recently, James, where.
I apologize.
Yes, I did talk to someone before I came here.
We were trying to save it to make an exclusive for you.
Your show's been out a month.
I only imagine you would have talked to a lot of people.
It's very old Hollywood review.
Or a season.
A talkie.
A season.
The latest season of Avatar.
Season one.
Scott, you're right.
He did make an interview.
He gave an interview.
I made an interview.
I made it and I gave an interview.
I made it and I gave it.
So I announced that maybe we won't be able to make even Avatar 4 and 5.
I've already filmed most of Avatar 4.
People don't want it.
And we probably.
probably now four and five are just going to be a press conference.
And we're going to do it today.
We're just going to release it.
Wait, so you're releasing Avatar 4 and 5 right now?
Just as a press conference.
As a press conference.
We're not releasing them because they'll never be made because no one wants it.
At this rate.
Not enough people want the movies.
Because it only made $2 billion.
It is on track to only make $2 billion.
It's on track.
It seems like a lot to me, right, Anna?
It seems like it's barely.
It's a slap in the face.
It might as well have made $1.
$1.00 as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah.
Do you mind?
And I'm sorry.
Oh, no, please.
I'd love to get a question from truth of them.
I mean, I was just trying for either of us to interrupt what's been happening right now.
So I'm glad that you got in.
Well, I just kind of didn't want to be too presumptuous.
And also, yes, I'm an actor.
Yeah.
Yes, you know, there's some openings next year, even though it's my year.
It's definitely your year.
And by the way, we had a pitch for you off mic when you were talking earlier.
Oh, half and half mic.
Yeah, I didn't know you could do that.
That's neat.
Yeah, we're pitching off mic.
We're pitching off mic.
We just, we love your talent.
We would have put you an avatar movie if we made more.
them, but the demand isn't there.
Have you met with Sony about a possible Anaconda sequel?
Anaconda?
Well, they did the Anaconda reboot.
Right.
And then Anna.
Anaconcal Anaconda feels like a pretty good hook for the sequel.
Anacongal Anaconda.
Anaconda.
With an Amadeus theme song.
Yeah, and you could do the song too.
With the Amadeus.
Yeah.
Wow.
That is a really, really interesting idea.
It's what we in the business call a soft pitch.
It's a soft pitch.
And Anna, it's all yours.
It's a gift.
It's a gift and return for the immense talent you've given us.
That's my question.
People don't want us making movies anymore.
You go make that.
Make your 2.5.
Happy to help out, but we're box office poison at this point.
We'd be a thanator around your neck at this point.
So I guess what I was wondering, if you're going to tell us what happens in four and five right now, do you mind telling me what happened in three?
Because I watched five minutes of this the other day.
And it was all I could fucking stand.
Well, you remember Spider, of course.
Which one?
Spider, a little.
dreadlock boy?
Spider.
Yeah, you remember him vividly.
It sounds like you remember everything about him.
Well, he's very in this first
five minutes of Avatar, Fire and Ash.
And that may be one of the reasons
I turned it off, just because
It's a spider-heavy film.
We thought that's what the public was demanding.
Spider.
Spider. He is our hero.
Spider.
Monkey boy.
Spider is now, you know, he's living with the Navi.
The biological son of RECOM Miles Quorich.
Because it's been...
They call him monkey boys.
They call him monkey boys.
Yes, I know.
Let me get my fucking question.
I have other children.
At one point he has baby girl.
Stop trying to guess what my question is.
Tuk, my little child.
I don't care.
Lowock, my son.
Ask away.
He's angry.
I don't even care anymore about what I was going to ask.
You just, you guys just go.
Say your thing.
I want to hear your question, Scott.
I never wanted to hear anything.
Just say your thing.
All right.
Well, you wanted to know what happens in Avatar Fire Natch.
You asked us and we were trying to answer.
Go ahead.
Spider has to wear a mask to breathe the air and he only has two of them.
One of them, the battery is always failing.
That's right.
Sometimes he misplaces.
This is a part where I do.
was just like, I don't know.
Someone's is like, where's my other one?
I only have the one that the battery is fading on.
And they go, go, go find it.
Go find it.
And they go, we don't know.
Every character needs to have a fatal flaw.
They need to have.
And a want.
A want.
If they don't have a want, then why are we watching?
Does he want a better battery or does he want to be cured of his condition?
He's got to go to the core.
He thinks he wants a better battery.
But what he really wants is to be able to breathe the air of Pandora.
But his fatal character flaw is that he needs to piss so badly.
He has to piss so badly.
He has to piss so badly.
He has to take a leak.
Is this, this, okay, I must have turned it off before then.
Oh, I think you remember.
You barely got anywhere into the story then.
And basically, I'll give you the short version.
Yeah.
Oh, thank fucking God.
Is that really in there, the P part?
It's a major plot point.
He has to go Pee.
And it's unresolved because that was one of the things he never knows to tackle him.
It's Chekhov's Piss.
It's Chekhov's Piss.
Even for Sutherland in the first episode or first season, sorry, of 24, he went to.
What a season that was.
Was that a movie?
Anyway, spider learns how to breathe
And now the pink faces
The pink skins
They all are interested
Because if a human can learn how to breathe
If they can study spider
Then maybe they can live on Pandora and breathe the air
And yet we've yet to even mention Varang
The elephant in the room
Leader of the Ash tribe
Now of course you remember
Recom Miles Quorch was reincarnated into an
Avatar body.
I can't look at this
back.
The biological father.
I can't listen to this anymore.
I don't want to know about any of this.
That's not even,
this was an answer to your first question.
I turned it on.
I just,
could you just tell me what happens at the end?
Scott,
you asked us to explain the movie quickly.
The film is three hours and 40 minutes long
and we were on track to explain the new one
in only an hour.
Okay.
Okay, well, here's the thing.
You don't have that kind of time.
You said quickly.
We, did you watch the whole movie, Scott?
No, I, as established.
You walked out?
Very good.
No, I was playing it here in my, in this very room.
How?
I have screeners of things.
Oh, for your consideration.
And I considered it and gave it up.
Well, you're no different than everyone else at this point.
No one, no one cares.
When we briefly resurface from the ocean and walk the street for a block or two together, the looks people give us.
It's like we were on the Epstein list.
The shame that is shot at us.
Right.
You know what I'm going to say it?
It's even worse than if we were on the Epstein list.
This, what we have done in people's eyes.
You hate it.
You don't even, you won't even finish watching it.
You won't even let us tell you what happened.
I don't even think like if I watch five minutes, like you can't even say finish watching it.
Like it would just be watching it at that point.
Spider, spider meets all the Navi who have died, all the ghosts.
He connects to Humphrey because he has his own shoe room.
We can talk.
No.
He was turned into a hybrid via a wood spry.
God, Scott.
All right, please, I beg of you.
You know, sometimes you plan.
Yes, Anna, no, Anna wants to know.
No, well, I was just going to say,
I did get an answer from my lawyer on, like, the residuals thing.
Oh, okay.
If you're interested.
I'm very interested.
Yeah.
Do you mind pausing?
It's not $2 billion, like, what you guys are, you know, getting.
Well, that was the gross.
That wasn't our back end.
But you get paid, like, around what?
On the first movie, I think we each got paid $1 billion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On the second movie,
Those were the days.
We took a haircut.
A haircut.
Yeah.
950.
950.
This one I...
Basically a rounding error.
Yeah.
This one, I think we're only going to take home 500 each, which is...
I mean, at this point, we're basically losing money.
We're paying to work.
Right.
Got it.
So what do you get, Anna?
You're entitled to sag residuals on that deal, and things like DVD digital purchases and
rentals are usually included in the calculation of residuals.
Okay, so this is pretty good.
This is better than being on something that goes to Netflix or something.
Perenthesies, it's quite complicated and incorporates many different factors.
God, this is making me nostalgic, James, remember?
When we were this bright-eyed, optimistic.
Bushy-tailed?
Yeah.
And they all said, I love comedy bang-bang.
Oh, very nice.
Well, shout out to whoever that.
That was Mac.
Can I just say, because I don't know if Jake and I have ever said this on the record.
We love Comedy Bang-Bang-Bing.
I had no idea.
When we were on the set,
filming Avatar Fire and Ash, because it's a very intense movie dramatically.
Sometimes you need to cut that attention like a night.
We would just fire up an episode of comedy banning.
Full episode.
Full episode.
Sometimes I'd turn to James and I'd go, God, imagine what Entree P. Neuer would do if she were here on Pandora.
And we'd laugh and laugh and laugh.
He wouldn't answer, but we'd laugh.
But now she'll never get the chance or he will never get the chance.
I'm not quite sure.
But because you no longer are making the films and you are in fact about two.
reveal what happens. I mean, we're about to do it because no one has told us that they care enough
about the movies to stop us from just spilling the beans here. All right.
Miles Quorich is back. He's back. Who? The villain of all of the avatar. Biological
father of spider. Spider's dad. Okay. Well, but is he really spider's dad because he's actually
an avatar based off a hardware backup. That's right. Of his memory. And it looks like he dies at the end
of Fire Nash, but you don't see him die. He just falls into it.
into smoke and fire.
He screams.
Got kind of a Disney villain death.
He falls off the cliff.
Why is it not smoking fire then?
Well, that was going to be number seven.
Why weren't you in the writer's room?
God.
I would have loved to have done like at least a four hour shift on this.
God.
The Monday morning quarterbacking we've been doing about all our mistakes.
Okay, get to your thing.
He breaks into Jake Sully's house, steals all his stuff, messes it all up.
This is like the hut on the river or wherever they are?
Kills Jake Sully.
Yeah, he's in the room.
Kills Jake Sully.
Right. So Jake Sully dies, but meanwhile, Spider's been hanging with the Navi ghosts.
Yeah. And he's figuring out how to bring the ghosts back to life. And of course, that's scary because now the pink faces, once they realize that Spider no longer can not only breathe the air on Pandora, he can bring the dead back to life. Well, that means that every pink face that's ever lived can come live on Pandora if spider teaches them how to breathe and comes back to life.
And this was our big twist because, of course, the Avatar franchise takes place in the far off future. We were setting up that.
in Avatar 5, Spider has the ability to bring every character in the history of movies back to life.
Right.
Okay.
A real who frame Roger Rabbit, but not just tunes, every character you've ever seen in a movie.
Don't limit it to Tune Town.
It's all towns.
All towns.
All towns.
And the fifth movie.
So the train that comes at the screen was going to be a major character in the fifth film.
Back scaring the hell out of everybody once again.
Eddie Valiant.
Kramer versus Kramer.
Both Kramer is going to be back and Kramer from that movie, Seinfeld.
and the final Avatar 5
Never Say Navi again
That was going to be the last movie in the series
We at one point played around with Navi say never again
Yeah oh the story group spent a year
A full year
A full year on just on
And we said guys don't worry we'll make it back on opening day
Yeah
What fools we were
And you'll see every character you've ever seen in a movie
Every one
Every movie.
Is this personalized to...
Telly from kids will be back there, the virgin surgeon.
Who else from movies?
I don't know Telly from kids.
From kids, Larry Clark's controversial.
Yes, I know what it is.
The gang from Gummo will be there.
The bathtub spaghetti boy from Gummo will be there.
Could try it cool running?
Bridget Jones, yes, the whole team from cool runnings.
Whoever we can't bring back, we obviously can use movie magic.
Off the top of my head, Diego Luna's character, who was a Michael Jackson impersonator and Harmony
Corinz, Mr. Lonely was going to be there.
All of the spring breakers were going to be there.
That's right.
The trash humpers.
That's right.
All of the child molestrials.
Everyone from happiness and from life during wartime.
Yeah.
The sort of sequel with a different cast.
So you'd have both versions of the same characters.
Just a feast for the fans.
Oh, for the sinneists.
For the sinneists among us.
I mean, Anna, you would have loved this.
Your former boss, Jason Biggs, was going to appear in the movie as Silverman from saving
Silverman.
Wow.
He was finally going to reprise the.
role. And he agreed. He was going to step out of the shadows. Well, we were in the very early
stages of nailing down the legal. It was a complicated contract. But he's aware of it. Yes. He was very
aware. But name, I mean, name another movie character that you like. What's your favorite movie
on? All right. Both of those are going to be all over it. Do they finally hook up? Yes.
Oh, okay. They hooked their cruise up. Yeah. Okay. Because they're all Navi. They're coming back.
Everyone's going to be a Navi. It's going to be the characters you know and love, but taller.
Taller and bluer.
Speaking of Robin, Robin from Space Jam 2, I would love to see.
Yeah, absolutely.
Just sitting there watching the basketball game.
And the King of Content, the villain from Space Jam 2.
He'll be back.
Algae rhythm.
That's right.
Oh, would you do documentaries?
Absolutely.
The Hoop Dreams guys will be there.
Robert McNamara.
Harlan County USA.
Get all those coal miners from that.
What about the dude from the jinx?
Is he going to be there?
Hardcore.
He's there and the mic is hotter than ever.
Yes, he's burping up a storm and these are not V-burps.
They're louder and taller than any.
We got the minions in there.
These minions, they're blue, they're tall, but they're still up to their...
They're still saying banana.
Banana, banana, banana, banana.
And then they hook up their colloes.
Wow.
Well, but it'll never happen.
It'll never happen.
This is the press conference.
I'm not getting a lot of pushback from the reporters in the room, the journalists.
The critics have told us to commit suicide when we have taken their note to heart.
They hate us.
They want us gone.
They want us wiped off the screens forever.
Look, I don't want to go that far.
But, you know, I mean, yeah, I think I think you guys could stop at fire and ash.
It's so embarrassing.
Everyone would be fine with it.
We barely sold 200 million tickets.
You think about that, James?
I think about it.
I think about it every minute that I draw breath.
We live in hell.
Well, guys, I'm very sorry to hear.
No.
But, you know, it seems like something a nice host would say.
Right.
But I think, yeah, you guys are right.
It's time to stop.
and those two movies that you just described eventually
were, they sound like dog shit.
Right. And even those.
You know, just so you know,
the whole between two Ferns, the movie gang,
was going to be in the movie.
They were all going to be there.
I was going to ask.
They were all going to be there.
The Ferns were going to be there.
The Ferns were going to be in there.
Yeah.
And we didn't even tell you who the Big Bad was going to be.
The Thanos of our franchise,
who had been pulling the strings the whole time.
Who?
Young Nigel Powers from Austin Powers from Austin Powers.
From Austin Powers Gold Member?
The part I played?
Yeah. You were going to see the back of his head and he was going to say, okay, it's time I take care of this myself and he was going to turn around.
Turn around and it was going to be me? You were going to see his face for the first time ever.
So wait, I was going to be the villain in the, I mean, maybe you guys could.
King of the pink faces. That doesn't sound bad. Honestly, maybe you guys could make another couple.
It was going to be a meaty role. Every character was going to call him up.
I mean, the industry is shifting. Maybe two months from now we'll look back and we'll be.
be embarrassed that we took this so hard
because there could always be an upturn
an upswing. Tell you what, would it help
if I went back on
the DGA screeners app?
And I completed my watch. Maybe I walk
out of the room and make dinner during part of it or
whatever, but, you know,
would those numbers sort of, would that help
juice the numbers and would it get maybe
the one where I'm the villain made?
I mean, the more I think
about it, what you just said about maybe the dinner
in the middle, maybe these aren't
movies. Maybe they are in a press conference.
Maybe this is dinner theater. Maybe this is dinner
theater. Maybe the next avatar should all be
dinner theater. I would do dinner theater. And
would you cook the dinner? Because we don't have
if you would also like
serve, cook the dinner. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, as long as it's a
limited menu, I don't want to be like a Jerry's Deli menu.
No, no, it's all, it's standard stuff. It's
frozen. It's frozen. Oh, so I'm just heating stuff up.
It's like medieval time style. It's like
Sure, yeah.
Jake Sully's Pandora, Land Stampede.
Yeah, sloppy playing.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you can do a song.
If you want, I know you like to do a song.
I would love to do his song.
Yeah, I think that character would naturally do a song.
I think so.
I think, yeah.
Oh, this is good.
Okay, I'll tell you what.
I think if we have a verbal commitment that, and you know what?
We have a verbal.
I'm so happy for you.
I want Anna and this with me.
Oh, Conco.
Conco, are you willing to, are you willing to play?
Are you willing to play?
Are you willing to play?
If we were reticent in passing a contract, sliding it across the table to you.
Yeah, if you want.
It's only because we had no second choice.
This project lives and dies on your yes.
And if you're willing to play Nigel Powers' wife, the door from Titanic,
we'd be happy to have you on board.
Wait, I married the door from Titanic.
Young Nigel Powers married the door from Titanic.
Oh.
Wait, what do you mean I'm a door from Titanic?
You're a very tall that Rose saves herself on.
But it's really tall.
But I'm the door?
And you're married.
No, but you're a door that has traveled the world.
You're a door as in.
Adore the explorer.
Oh, so I'm a person.
No, you're a door.
You're a door.
You're really told me the explorer.
You know that expression you make a better door than a window?
That's you.
Oh.
I would never cast you as a window.
No.
Thank you.
Because I can't see through you.
I know these headphones are in the way.
I actually can't see you at all.
Scott, look, I'm no director, but I feel like this segment's been running very long.
Oh, really?
I would have gone to a break by now.
Scott, this segment is too long.
It's way too long.
And I want you to understand what it means when I say that.
If you want to send me an edit, I'd love to give me some notes.
Even as I said the words, they felt unnatural coming out of my mouth.
I know, but I.
This is too long.
If James thinks it's too long, something's really gone awry.
I feel you on this.
It should be ended.
I mean, you have another guest.
I don't know what you're doing.
We do have another guest.
And quite honestly, it feels disrespectful at this point to still continue talking to you.
So I am going to cut this off right now.
Is that all right?
Or maybe another hour.
No.
That's my old instinct kicking.
I know, I know.
But I do think we have a verbal commitment that call, could you write back to your lawyer and say that we need some paperwork on this?
Generate some paperwork and we can.
And it's a big role.
It's a big role.
Huge role.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm down.
I'm tall.
Nine feet tall.
I am tall.
All right.
Fantastic.
I'm flat as a board.
Oh, good.
All right.
Well, we're going to take a break.
When we come back, we have a therapist.
and we will have a little bit more of James Cameron and Jake Sully.
A lot more of Anaconkel.
We're going to come right back with more Comedy Bang Bang after this.
Comedy Bang Bang, Bang, we are back, Anna Conchall,
Untitled Home Invasion Romance out next week.
And does your lawyer, did they get back to you about the paperwork?
Yeah, they're just wanting a little bit more exposition, explanation,
whatever you guys would write that to be.
Drama.
That's what we always call it in the law.
story. They just want to know that, you know, I'll get a credit and that it won't just say door, but we can talk about it later.
Right. Can the door have a name? Yeah. Door, the explorer. Door the explorer. Okay. Door da. Oh. The explorer. So I am a person. In Navi. I think you're just the door that Rose saves a life on. It's a major care. Floats around the iceberg. Yeah. I'm open. I'll explain it to them. I love it. Okay, good. We also have, of course, James Cameron and Jake Sully. And I'm just going to cut you off before you.
you guys even start talking. Thank you. You're welcome. We have to get to our next guest,
and they are a somatic therapist, which I don't exactly know what that is. Anna, do you know what
that is? I think I might. I really love therapy. Well, I would love to hear a little bit more about it,
or even a lot more about it. Please welcome for the first time on the show, Leif Clover.
Hi. Hi. Hi. How's it going? This is Anna and Jake over here with the really tall blue thing with
It's dick wrapped around.
This guy's dick over here.
Okay, great.
The braids, the cute.
James Cameron.
Hello.
Hi.
How are you?
Yeah.
Nice to meet you.
So nice to meet you.
So, Leif, you are a somatic therapist.
Yes, I am.
What is somatic therapy exactly?
So somatic therapy is therapy that focuses on the body.
I'm sure you guys have all heard the body keeps the score.
Yeah.
James and I say that to each other all the time.
Where would I have heard that?
The body keeps the score?
I believe it's a book.
Oh.
And, and, and.
It's a book.
It's a book.
Okay.
And you've read this book?
I've read parts of it.
And the body remembers what the mind doesn't.
Exactly.
Wow.
Okay.
So you really are taking to this.
I'm going to focus in on you now.
Oh, okay.
What are you feeling right now in your body?
I was feeling really nervous because they were fighting.
Where were you feeling nervous, though?
In my pelvis.
In your pelvis.
Why are you laughing?
I just.
Does a somatic therapist usually laugh?
at their clients?
Well, I guess you're not a client, technically, because are you going to pay Leaf over here for whatever she's doing here?
Seems only fair.
Yeah, as long as you don't laugh.
If you give her a dollar right now, then...
You'll get five more minutes.
Okay, absolutely.
Do you have Enmo?
Yes, of course.
Great.
At Untitled Leaf Clover.
Oh, you're untitled, too.
There are things untitled, mine's untitled.
It's kind of in trend right now.
It's wonderful.
It's a thing.
Entitles is having a moment.
It really is.
Untitled's having the best week ever, am I right?
It's nice that we've worked past our issues.
You have best week ever on Pandora?
Absolutely.
It's actually the only show that still airs there.
Housebox is our biggest star.
So Leaf, you do therapy for the body.
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
And I think another aspect of somatic therapy that's really interesting is things all originate from your birth.
So actually, Scott, I'm curious for you.
Sure.
What is your birth story?
My story.
I, do you mean where I was born?
I want to know.
It's the experience of how you were birthed.
Because the first traumatic thing in our life happens when we're born.
So that's what is going to define the rest of your life.
So how are you born?
I think just like anyone else, I just came out of a, I'm trying to think of the medical term.
Pussy?
Yeah, pussy.
And they cut the cord that was providing me sustenance.
It's called a pussy cord.
Pussy cord, yeah.
And I was crying, pussy cries.
And I went back in the pussies, basically what I was saying.
This is all just like, forgive me, this is medical jargon.
Yeah, of course.
No.
And then I, you know, like hung out there for a little while as far as I know.
And I went home after that.
I've been a bunch of pussies took care of you.
Yeah.
Nurse pussies?
Yeah.
Huh?
It's wonderful to be surrounded by pussies.
Now, that's a very interesting thing that you were born surrounded by pussy.
You probably spend your life trying to be around pussy.
Wow.
Trying to find pussy.
I mean, I don't mind it, if you know what I'm saying?
Absolutely, right?
One thing you said that I find interesting is you came out crying.
I did as far as far as I am told.
There were no issues on that.
But they want you to cry, right?
I mean, it's a bad sign if you're not crying.
Of course, of course.
Yeah, babies that don't cry are often not alive.
Yes.
I wasn't going to, you know what?
I wasn't going to go there.
Of course.
As morose as you.
We're so scared to talk about birth, but birth is the beginning of everything.
I have five children.
Okay.
How are they all born?
One of them's dead.
Two of them are adopted.
Okay.
Kiri was kind of a magical birth.
Her mother, Grace Augustine's avatar, was suddenly impregnated with no father, no body father.
No body father.
We eventually realized that she was carrying the seed planted by AWAR herself.
And that's the tree?
Yeah.
And then the other three kids were just born pussy style.
Pussy style, interesting.
How were you born?
Pussy style.
Well, I had two births, actually.
I was born on Earth, Jake Sully.
In the future, Earth is a shithole.
Then I traveled over to Pandora and was reborn.
Were you suspended animation?
Yeah.
They say you don't dream and cry of sleep, it's true.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
But I was reborn in Pandora in my avatar body, and that was my second birth.
So one was Pussy Style.
One was via Kulhu home tree connection.
That's really interesting.
Two births is really going to affect you.
Absolutely.
Do you find yourself looking for safety in others?
Perhaps a safety you didn't have in your second birth or your first birth?
Wow.
I mean, I often say my family is my fortress, and that feels like a way of expressing exactly
what you're asking.
A fortress.
I built a fortress of life.
love around myself.
Isn't that interesting?
A fortress also keeps things out, right?
That's a good point.
And so does a moat with like alligators.
Scott, that is so true.
Mm-hmm.
Can anyone name another thing like that?
A moat, a fortress?
Electrified fence?
Electrified fence.
A ditch?
A ditch?
That's just a moat.
It's without water, right?
It's an empty moat, but it's a ditch.
Do you think that World War I, they were doing?
motte fighting, trans warfare?
You can't just say my thing.
A trench.
A trench.
And then say, oh, but take the water out of it.
Okay, wait, I got one.
Come up with your new thing.
Yeah, I got one.
Answer my question about
empty moat fighting or trans war warfare.
Answer my question about how you can't do what you did.
How I can't do what I did.
Avatar.
I'm gonna pause you too.
You're arguing.
Thank you.
Where do you feel this argument in your body?
In your pelvis?
My pelvis.
In my culu.
Oh, and that's your dick tail?
Yes.
It's a pony braid.
Oh, ooh.
What?
You said dick tail.
Yeah.
And I said, a woo.
Oh, okay.
Wonderful.
Thank you for wooing.
But you feel it in your pelvis.
I'm going to push you, Scott.
Oh, okay.
Where?
And specifically, and how does it feel?
Describe it.
Does it feel swirly?
Does it feel bizarre?
You're going to push me?
I'm going to push you in your pelvis, Scott.
Okay.
Usually I like to be pulled there.
But go ahead.
Yeah, I'm going to push right now and I'm pushing.
Ow.
Ow.
Ow.
Oh, wow.
So there's something there.
That's so interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I think you, I think you cracked it or something.
Cracked what?
The pelvis bone.
Okay, so there's definitely something there.
Maybe the emotion behind it.
Okay, no, it actually feels just like you kind of broke my pelvis bone right then.
Okay, and that's part of the therapy, right?
Is it part of it?
Yes, it is.
This is part of it.
Discovering weakness.
Discovering.
Thank you.
Do you have it all?
Yes, I'm going to have you right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm doing it right now.
Can you settle a timer alert on your phone?
so we don't have to keep asking about the dollar.
Every 60 seconds.
Please.
Or five minutes, five minutes.
Which is however many seconds.
Leif, do you accept payment via Kuro?
Because I feel like I took about five minutes of your time back there,
talking about my pussy berths.
Is Kuro the currency on Pandora?
No, it's the pony braid that you often refers to as a long blue dicks.
Yeah, I do accept that.
I absolutely accept that.
Here you go.
Okay, he's wrapping his long blue dick around.
It's not a dick.
It's a pony braid.
Good.
Thank you.
I should be done on this.
Do you need a dollar?
Yeah.
I only have a million dollars.
Can I give you a million dollars?
Oh, yeah.
That will,
that'll be fine.
Thank you.
Am I covered then?
Or do you still need the dollar every five minutes?
I need it from each person.
Separately.
There's no.
You can't cover a little extra though.
I can't break a million dollar bill.
I'm sorry.
All right.
Who's on the million dollar bill, by the way.
I've never seen one of those.
Mr. Bojangles.
Mr. Bojangles.
Yeah.
You know, you hear that song
and you don't realize it's the same guy's on the
million dollar bill. So what is it you do? I make people think about their bodies. Oh, okay. Someone
say that we think about our bodies too much. I would say we don't think about them enough.
I would say that. I would say we should be body scanning every single day.
What are we doing that term? Is that a medical term? It is a medical term, yeah.
What does it mean? It means you start at your toes and you body scan up to your head.
And what are we looking for when we're doing this scan of our body?
trouble issues or any sensation
sense it just any sensation any sensation
I would hope that we would have sensation
over our entire bodies well I
am sorry but I suppose when you were
human you didn't have a sensation over
that's a good point
yeah some people don't have sensation
you've really exposed Scott's ignorance
in that moment yeah let's be PC here
not everybody has a sensation
in every part of the body
belly button down look I'm a I'm a Bill Maher type on this
podcast okay you can't you can't stop
me from being on PC
yeah well you're never going to win a golden globe that way
I'll tell you that much.
Yeah, but basically that's what I do.
I scan bodies and...
So you scan, so wait, we shouldn't be doing it?
Yeah, and I push on the bodies in certain places,
and then it brings people to realizations that you could never find.
My pelvis still is really, really hurt.
I think I need a doctor or something.
I think it's totally fine.
I wouldn't get a checkdown and I wouldn't talk to anyone about it.
Okay, I'll take your word for it.
I think that can be between us.
Oh, sure.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
That's part of therapy, right?
Oh, okay.
Confidentiality.
Oh, I thought that was just for the doctor.
No, it's for everybody involved.
Hippa.
Don't talk about it or I could sue you
Oh, okay, got it.
Be careful with that.
Okay.
And this works with people.
You found results?
Oh, yeah.
People leave sobbing because they think...
That's good?
They're like, yes, of course.
They're like, I had tension in my shoulder for 45 years.
I never noticed it and then I push on it.
And suddenly, you know, they...
Sure, they can't use their shoulder, but they are like, wow, that was different.
And then they're sobbing.
It's much more impactful than talk therapy.
I mean, you could talk all day in circles.
Can I ask?
No, no, no, no, please.
No, I know you're casting soon.
You're casting soon.
Go ahead.
You and then me and then James.
Well, I was just going to say, I feel.
I'll throw it.
We have time for Anna.
Scott, that's the order.
Please don't interrupt.
It's going to take much longer if you try to stop us.
I was just going to ask if this is the same thing in acting school.
I did what it was called like tremoring.
And you were, you played a graboid.
What's a grabboid?
Oh, I'm sorry.
From the movie tremors, the worms.
Tremas franchise, Tremas four.
Are they going to be any of this new avatar, by the way?
Yeah, Michael Gross was already signed up to return.
Reba.
Rebo.
Reba.
Oh, MacGatire?
Oh, I love her.
Okay, so sorry, you weren't playing a grab way.
No, I would.
I'm open.
I wasn't asked then, and I didn't, I didn't tape for it.
I didn't have an opportunity.
In your tremoring class?
Oh.
Oh, another dollar.
You need another million dollar bill from you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And thank you.
Okay.
Good, good.
Ah, my pelvis.
Ow, God, stop hitting it, please.
All right, so what happened in this?
This is a work.
We're doing the work.
Well, I don't know if that's what this is, but it's tremoring, and it was an acting school,
and they would have us, like, lay on the ground, and then you put your feet on the floor,
and then you'd lift up, you know, pelvis to the sky until it starts to shake.
And then you're doing it for an hour until you start.
Sobing.
Acting teachers have no idea what they're doing.
Yeah, that you were in a cult.
I know it was a real.
I know you really did it.
NYU.
An NYU cult.
Honestly, most universities are a cult.
So that's not good.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's, I would never have a patient do that.
I always push on the body part.
Okay, you got to get it out.
Terrific question, Anna, top shelf.
My question actually builds upon hers.
I was curious about your training, your background,
how you got into this line of work and how you got accredited or licensed.
Great. So, yeah, me and my little brother. We spent a lot of time as kids sort of figuring out methods like this.
Like playing doctor and stuff like that.
Playing doctor is, yeah, I mean, it's a sort of childish way to put it.
Pulling and pushing on each other's body parts.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah. And we just did that from a young age and we found, oh, wow, you know, there's something really here.
So, no, I never did any formal training, although you can for somatic therapy. I did not because I didn't need it.
You never went to a university or have any kind of...
Scott, I'm sorry, you're asking a question,
and we established that James was third in the question of it.
All right, James.
Scott, I just wanted to say, when you do new rules,
will you not cut to me for reactions?
All right, I promise. I won't.
I know it's not a visual format, but just don't...
I won't cut.
I'll be too self-conscious, whether I'm laughing or not laughing.
Don't worry, don't worry.
I'll enjoy it more if it's just...
If it's just...
I'm not going to...
No problem.
No problem.
Okay, thank you.
Well, Leif, it sounds like what you do is,
is incredibly fascinating.
I don't know that I necessarily have the money to come to you all the time,
or the body parts.
Yeah.
You know,
because,
I mean,
you're stronger than you look.
Oh,
yeah.
Yeah.
I understand.
I mean,
I'd love to get you in for one more session.
That's all I'm saying.
Just do one more session.
Just one more session?
What's going to happen in one more session?
You're going to have your life changed by me pressing on your body in a certain spot.
Scott,
I think you might as well make that session happen now because at least then will be a business
right off.
Yeah.
Let's do it now.
You want to press, yeah, okay.
Okay.
Where, where, how do you feel right now?
I feel like the segment needs to wrap up.
Okay, where do you feel that the segment needs to wrap up in your body?
In my body, like my left wrist where my watch usually is.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Okay.
And how does it feel?
Does it feel, does it feel, uh, does it feel swirly?
Swirly is definitely a word that I would have used for it.
Okay, great.
I'm going to push on it now.
Ah, fuck.
Ow!
Oh, gosh.
You broke my fucking wrist.
I would like to keep this between us.
Okay.
Okay.
I won't tell anyone.
Okay.
I won't tell anyone.
Jesus.
Thank you.
That hurts.
All right.
Very powerful to witness.
He's fine.
Look,
he's so moved.
He's crying and we teasing.
My neck,
my back, my pussy and my crack.
Ha,
ha.
That's a reference.
Yeah,
no, I got it.
I laughed.
Do you have that on Pandora?
We have all the songs on Pandora.
Yeah.
Oh, that's true.
But you can't pick when they play.
And they don't see this as a,
This is the stuff we would have gotten to if we would have explained that you can't.
Very, very, very, very.
Our entire digital music ecosystem would have been.
Very good stuff.
Well, guys, we are running out of time.
Unfortunately, we only have time for one final feature on the show.
And that is, of course, a little something called plugs.
Thought this was a show about comedy.
Thought it was all about love.
In show business, they call this synergy.
It's just a show about plugs.
A show about plugs.
Plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs.
A show about plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs.
Oh, plugs.
Why can't you treat me right?
You got that one-person show.
Oh, was that tonight?
That was tonight, tonight?
Ooh.
Oh, plugs.
Plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, a show about plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs.
A show about drugs.
Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs.
A show about plugs.
Plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs.
A show about plugs.
All right, that was Synergy by Pleasant Hill Cemetery.
Got a round of applause.
I, of course, will not give it a round of applause because it was 10 seconds over.
Our minute cutoff time.
I guess we need to reiterate again.
Let's keep it to a minute.
And when I say a minute, I don't mean 59 seconds.
I mean 30.
But thank you, Pleasant Hill Cemetery for that.
What do we plug in?
Anna, obviously we have Untitled Home Invasion Romance
coming out on January 27th.
And then on May 5th, we have the sane one.
The sane one.
That's about it.
I did a little bit of hacks that I'm excited about.
Oh, really?
You're in hacks.
The next season?
The next season.
Oh, can you say,
who you play? I don't know that. I heard that
they're pretty locked down.
How did you know? Do they
do a whole just prequel?
Like, what was that Sopranos prequel movie?
The Many Saints of Newark.
Yeah.
Which I believe is getting a theatrical release. It may have already
happened. There's a theatrical
Are they going to be in the Avatar 5 as well?
Yeah. Including
the ghost of Christopher
who narrates the film's course.
It's only going to be the Many Saints of Newark.
We couldn't access the Sopranos ones.
Oh, that's too bad.
Yeah, so it'll be like John McGarrow.
I would have included one scene of Livia when her head was mismatched with the body.
We did get post-death Lidio.
Right, I love that one.
Hey, get out of here.
James and Jake, what do you guys want to plug?
I mean, it seems pointless at this point, but we might as well.
Avatar, Fire and Ash.
I guess I would say, you know, just to do a service for our listeners.
If you're on the run from local law enforcement, they probably won't find you in an avatar fire and ash screening.
Eventually, when it goes to digital, please rent it and then buy it because maybe that'll bump our numbers a little bit because they don't apply the rental to the purchase digitally.
Right.
So we get that's two bites of the apple.
I'll also say one of the few brave outlets to defend our film was a podcast called Blank Check with Griffin and David.
They endorsed it heartily.
They have great taste.
They like this, these avatar movies.
They like it quite a bit because they're big, strong, small.
boys with good opinions.
And are you sure it's not they just are forced to watch it
in order to know more about it for a comedy thing that they do?
Absolutely not.
I think this is a case of the...
I'm not even sure they do comedy bits on that.
I believe it's a no-bits podcast.
It's a new bit.
That's right.
It's just true, honest, perfect opinions constantly.
I'll also plug a YouTube channel that I stumbled across.
Connor Rattler presents the acting class.
What a show that is.
Okay.
I learned a lot from him.
When I ran out of Comedy Bang Bang episodes,
Sometimes we'd fire that up in between takes on Avatar.
And a comic book that's coming out just in time for Valentine's Day.
There's no one more romantic than me, James Cameron.
And I've already picked out what I'm going to get for My Lady Love.
And that's The Duck Tales Valentine's special comic book.
Okay.
It's coming out in February.
Written by the same gentleman who does that YouTube channel, Connor Outlaw presents the actor.
And the Stitch comic, he's a blue alien.
Yeah.
I'll also say I occasionally make appearances on a thing called the George Lucas talk show.
it is a very erratically scheduled
live comedy show,
but the history
across 11 years
are all up on YouTube,
George is a good egg.
He's a good egg.
He's a good egg. We like George.
We love George.
So even your plugs are long.
I mean, nothing was as long as that
plug song that you played.
My God.
It's the longest thing
I've ever heard in my life.
I know a few places.
I thought that that was you singing.
It did, it did sound a lot.
Oh, interesting.
It sounded a lot like James Cameron.
You thought James Cameron,
yeah.
James Cameron emailed a plugs
That's why I was like, yeah.
It sounded a lot like James Cameron.
It sounded a little bit like Connor Ratliff of the acting class.
It sounded a fair amount like George's...
Well, I'll say this.
I'll say I will admit nothing.
I will admit nothing, but there's a possibility that I might have blind submitted a song.
That was originally about kulus that plug into each other.
Well, because they plug, plug, plug, plug, plug.
That's a good call.
And actually, in fact, I have one more thing.
I want to plug, Leif.
Would you mind just passing this over to Scott quickly?
Absolutely.
What is this here?
That is my kuru, and you are connected.
Oh, shit.
Oh, I got it.
Plug it right into your broken wrist.
Oh, fuck.
You should ask someone before you do that.
Yeah.
Consensual is important.
Well, I'm pretty sure actually, you're the one who plugged it into him.
Oh, no.
Technicality.
All right, Leif, what do you want to plug?
I want to plug Anna and Isabella do improv.
A little podcast where people do improv.
And I want to plug the crazy story show on YouTube.
The crazy story show.
It's the crazy story show.
It's very hard to Google because Crazy Story is a super common thing on the internet.
Right.
We realize that, or they, they realize that I completed.
I've met them, but yeah.
Yeah, they're your clients.
They're my clients, exactly.
The collective we.
Yeah, and you know what, it's a fun YouTube show.
And, you know, the future is YouTube.
That's where all the money is.
Yeah.
Subscribe.
Yeah.
Subscribe.
Video podcasts.
I would say both of these YouTube channels have been brought up.
The key is to subscribe.
I would have to subscribe.
It costs you nothing.
Everyone keeps telling me to smash that like.
button too. Smash that like button. Yeah, which I did the first time and now my like button doesn't
work. Yep. Well, you were probably trying to relieve it of trauma. Yeah. And I understand that. Hey,
guess what? I have even another thing to plug. Wow. Whoa. I know. It makes me feel very busy and good
to plug that for someone else. Uh, play by play. Will Hines. Yes. Will Hines has a show play by play
and they're going on tour and I'm going to be on tour with them. You don't say. When is this
tour? Let me see. It's the. It's the.
the fifth and sixth in Pittsburgh.
Of what month?
Of February.
Love of February.
February 5th, February 6th in Pittsburgh,
February 7th in Baltimore and 9th in New York.
Can I plug one more thing, but it's not until March.
Sure.
Yeah, please.
You can cut this later.
No, we'll, all plugs are welcome.
We're in the middle of the plug back.
I did a 20-minute plug.
Well, I would love to do it.
Still, nothing is as long as that song that we heard before.
Right.
And you were so great if that was so.
Well, thank you.
If it wasn't me, thank you.
It's called The Sun Never Sets.
And by Sin, I mean Sun.
Yes, the Sun never sets.
Okay.
It'll be at South by Southwest.
It's a new Joe Swanberg film.
Okay.
And you are in this.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Okay.
Are you on South Dakota?
Vanning.
I don't have the honor to be a cop in that one.
But I'm not a Democrat.
Okay, good, good.
And that'll be at South by Southwest,
middle of March.
Middle of March.
Okay.
I want to plug, look, I'll keep mine short.
Go to CBB,
world. You can hear every single episode of this show
ad free, new episodes ad free,
every live episode we've ever done.
Plus, we have other shows like CBB Presents
where people from...
Jesus Christ, that's a ticking for us.
Where people from this show have their own shows.
We have Scott hasn't seen where lunatics come
and want to talk to me about Night at the Roxbury
for two and a half hours.
Sounds like a good podcast.
That sounds like an abuse of the format.
To be honest, for someone to come on to that show
and hijack it that way,
But could you believe that someone else came on and talked to me for even longer about something else?
I don't believe that.
It also sounds good to me.
Even without you getting into the specifics, it sounds like a good episode.
So go head over to CBBWorld.com and you can get all that stuff.
All right, let's close up the old plug bag.
You gotta open it up.
Open the bag and everybody sings.
I shake dude the whole thing over again.
Fuck this.
All right, that was our second remix of the year.
That was fantastic.
That was the oranges ball remix by Ryan Beverly.
If you want to do a remix, everything you need is over at CBBWorld.com slash plugs,
where all the stems are there and we love your remixes.
Boy, this is going to be a good year for remixes.
And speaking of good years, Anna Conkel, this is your year.
You got three things coming out.
and we'll see you at the end of the year
on the time 100 entertainers list
and see you on your anniversary one
and anaconda
I'm, you know,
and I'll see you next week.
See you next week, yes, thank you to Leaf Clover
for therapy and hey, James Cameron
and Jake Sully.
You'll be seeing Avatar in the
in-memorium segment of next year's Oscars.
And you'll be seeing us take...
Wait, are you going to come back to plug that?
Yeah, absolutely. You'll see us also take
a walk of shame outside of...
Your home.
Yes.
Game of Thrones style.
We'll be expecting to be pelted with vegetables as we walk down the streets of Los Angeles.
Well, guys, I regret this is going to be the last time we ever speak to you because there will be no more Avatar films.
But it's a shame.
I guess you'll stay in the three-timers club.
No, we might come back with a true lies, two lies.
Two lies.
Two lies?
Two lies.
True lies.
And Jake's going to be in this as well?
Yeah.
Yeah, we're not.
Tom Arnold.
Yeah.
JLC.
and on Schwarzenegger and Anna Conkel.
Wow. Okay, you heard it here first, folks. Incredible.
All right, and we'll see you next time on episode 950.
We'll see you next week. Thanks, bye.
