Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - Bonus Bang: Adam Scott, Will Hines, Suzi Barrett (Hot 4 Scott)

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

This week's Bonus Bang is the second in our Hot 4 Scott series. Originally titled, "From Candy Boy To TV Bo", friend of the show Adam Scott joins Scott to talk about the U2 biopic announcement, the first ‘sclusie behind the Party Down revival, and the alternate titles for his Apple TV+ show Severance. Then, shoe designer Thomas Mashed-Potatoes stops by to talk about his love of Oxfords. Plus, novelist Mariska Beenaboutta drops by to talk about her first romance novel. (Originally released as episode 751 on 4/3/2022) Don’t forget to check out the Comedy Bang! Bang! Action Figures at shop.figurecollections.com and go to actionfigureseller.com for international purchases. If you want more great episodes of Comedy Bang! Bang! become a subscriber at comedybangbangworld.com. We have all of the past episodes from the archives, every live show, ad-free new episodes, and original shows like CBB Presents and Scott Hasn’t Seen. Find more great Comedy Bang! Bang! merch at https://www.podswag.com/collections/comedy-bang-bang Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb

Hey everyone, Scott Ackerman here and welcome to another bonus bang where we re-release great episodes of comedy bang bang out from behind the paywall. This week we are continuing our series that we just started last week. It's called Hot for Scott. And it features our good friend Adam Scott. He's been on the show ever since the beginning and we're trotting out old episodes that he's been on. This week we're re-releasing an episode called Not Tall. Adam's a me. medium-sized gentleman. It's called From Candy Boy to TV Boy. Now, this was originally released April 3rd, 2022 as episode 751. Now, in this episode, Adam Scott joined me to tell the tale of going from a simple candy boy making taffy in a candy store to a TV boy starring in shows like Party Down and Severance. I believe he is promoting the season one finale of Severance on this episode. Of course, both season. one and season two are out on Apple TV Plus right now, and you can vote for them at the Emmys if you're a TV Academy person. This episode also features Will Hines as shoe designer Thomas Mashed Potatoes and Susie Barrett

as romance novelist Mariska Binabouda. Now, if you enjoyed this episode and you want to hear other great episodes of Comedy Bang Bang, become a subscriber at CBBWorld.com. We have all of the past episodes from the archives, every live show we've done, ad-free, new episodes and original shows like CBB Presents and Scott hasn't seen. We're going to be back Monday with a new episode of Comedy Bang Bang, but until then, enjoy this bonus bang. What were those two birds doing with one stone anyway?

Seems suspicious. I'm glad they're dead. Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. Okay. Interesting. Oh, by the way, thank you so much to Joey O. Tweet's, Joey O. Tweet's for that Caps foray submission. And welcome to Comedy Bang Bang for another edition.

And I got to say we are still technically in the backyard, but we have moved indoors. because what is this wet day? No, we all know wet day is a week away. But it is raining. Wet weather is pounding the Southland here. And so we had to move it indoors. Hopefully our streak will continue of good shows. But if not, it's because we put a ceiling above us.

And speaking of ceilings, we have a great show. Our first guest has crashed through the ceiling from non-fame into fame. and done so very adroitly. He has a, by the way, coming up a little later, we have a shoe designer and a novelist, but no one cares about that. We want to talk to the Hollywood stars, and the stars are back.

That's right. He has a show on Apple TV plus called Severance. It sounds like you're going to say something, like something in addition to a show on Apple TV. A show on Apple TV plus a show on, Peacock? That would be great, wouldn't it? Sure, yeah, I'd take them both. Why don't you move that a little closer to your mouth here?

You know, not the, you don't have to move the entire mic stand, but just the literal actual thing we're talking to. How's that? Much better. I love that. Talk a little. I love it, too. Say, can you say every word in the English language and we'll test it out? Okay, I'm going to start with numbers. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 15, 16, 17, 17, 18, 21, 21, 23, 24. 25, 26, 27, 18, 8, 28. Those are all words. They are all words. I just took care of those words as well. But you're saying them as numbers because you're going to have to repeat them once you go alphabetical.

Right, because they're in quotations and then I'll say the word versions later. And by the way, say every homophone as well. Every what? Homophone. Homophone. Homophone. Okay, thank you. That's all the homophones.

Yes, thank you. You said about five of them. So I appreciate that. That's right. But he has this show. It's called Severance. And please welcome back to the show, Adam Scott. Hello.

Hi, Scott. Hi. It's great to see you again. You too, man. Uh, you too, man. You too, man. I remember our old show. By the way, a lot of U2 news.

Really? What? I don't know. Oh, there's the, uh, the, the biopic. The biopic that is so weird. What are, what's going to happen in the biopic? Like, they're going to, they're going to struggle for two years and then become incredibly famous? Who's going to play us?

Seriously. What have I played you when you played me? That would be fantastic. How are you going to get into character? This is how I'm going to play you. I'm just going to be constantly jerking off. Because if they make this biopic, and I'm not saying it definitely will happen, but there's a chance. Pretty good chance.

Pretty good. I would say. Like 100% chance, I think. At least 101% chance. Yeah, if not 110, which we all know is the new standard for percentages. That's right. Yes. Anything below 110% chance is like a 2% chance.

Yeah, exactly. But you're saying 101% chance that we're, at least in the third act. That we will figure into this story prominently. Pretty prominently. Like on the poster instead of you too. It might actually get more butts and seats. Oh, man. But what could possibly happen in this biopic?

We did text about this the day was enough. The iPhone thing would be like the late second. act like darkened out of the soul for them. That's right. No one wants our album on their iPhones. That's right. And they go walking in the rain, soul searching. There's that scene like that Truman Show scene that's in every movie where something

happens on live TV where you just suddenly drop into a bar and then someone's house and then an old man by himself watching TV and you see everyone getting the album on their phone and freaking out. I used to when I watch. And then the two people that are happy about it are you and me. We're like, yes, and you're on a plane, as I recall. And you're like, I don't have Wi-Fi on the plane. I'm going to wait until I land until I get it.

And that's like our third actor. And then the plane explodes and the movie ends. The day the music died. That's right. I remember when I saw the Truman Show, I was very upset that they kept going back to the same people because it made it feel small. Same. And I was like, why not get, you know, instead of keep going back to the same three people, you know, watching this thing. And then I realized how expensive that would be.

But also, it's like it kept being a person in their bathtub watching Truman. Right. And that's dangerous. Yeah. To have that much electricity near, you know what I mean? It just puts me on edge. You don't want your audience worried about the old man in the bathtub. Exactly.

Which is, I mean, that is a, I mean, you've heard of Save the Cat. That's exactly right. It's your screenwriting book title. The Old Man in the Bathtub. You don't want the audience to worry about the old man in the bathtub. That's right. Um, Adam, you, uh, you're back on comedy bang, bang, uh, took, uh, it's been a while. A lot of, it's been a while. A lot of people saying, where's Adam? His show came out.

Yeah. Where, where is he? How come he's not on the show? I hope they're not fighting. I hope they're, they're still, uh, tight with each other. Explain yourself. Uh, well, you know, um, well, here, truly, though, the reason was was because I was, uh, when the show came out, I was, uh, when the show came out, I was, was shooting party down. Yes. And we didn't have, we tried and couldn't find a day to do it. And I have a no pink bow tie rule here on the show. And while I shoot party down, I wear a pink bow tie 24 hours a day. Exactly. Everyone knows that.

Yeah, you were shooting. And how did that go? Can you give us the first scloosey on what, so what happened, who's playing who? The scloose on that is that it did not go well. Really? Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, I mean, everyone is such a big fan of that show.

I know. It's a bomb. And it just, like, what happened? Just, like, bad writing, bad directing, bad acting? The writing was bad. The writing was bad. And we all got together and kind of looked at each other and thought, it's been 12 years for a reason.

Yeah. That's the thing. You guys stopped doing the show because you hated it. So then suddenly to be back. We didn't like making the show. We didn't like each other. I mean, we were fine with each other. Like, you're fine with each other, but the literal process of making a show, like,

having to stand in front of cameras and stuff like that. It just sounds so draining. It is. It's exhausting. And sometimes you have to wake up early and get in a car and drive there. Yeah, sometimes you have to wake up at like 10.30 a.m. They just assume you have a car, first of all. Yeah.

It's like, hey, ask me. I mean, yeah, I do, but I'd love to be asked. Yeah. You know what it is? It's manners. Do you have a car? Do you have a gas tank in the car? Does it have gas in it?

Does it have all four wheels? Three simple questions. Are there four wheels on it? That's a perfect example of the kind of shit. Yes. That's why people get up and slap people at award ceremonies because this kind of crap. Weird reboot of the slap, isn't it? Sure was.

Speaking of reboot. Yeah. Now, so party down, not going to come out? Is that basically what I'm hearing? You know what? Unfortunately, it will have to come out at some point. That's the way it works. That's another thing.

They don't tell you. This is going to be released. Right. Yeah. Because you would love to have the option of like everyone has a bad time. You look at each other and go, yeah, forget it. Let's burn this to the ground. Yeah.

That's not an option. Anyway. So when does it actually, when do we have to watch this thing? I actually don't know. Really? It seems like July. No, I really have no idea. Really.

No one ever came up to you and said, hey, by the way, Adam, this is coming out in September. This is going to be awesome. Nope. No. Not one person. Not one person. No, I really don't know. I think they're just figuring out when they're like, hey, clear Labor Day, because we're going to be fucking putting this out.

You're going to gather your family around. It's going to be so fucking awesome. Because Labor Day is, you know, famously the best day to put a TV show up. Well, that's great. You have two TV shows. I remember the day when you had none. Me too. Remember those days?

Yeah. Like three months ago. Well, also when you started because you thought you were going to be a movie boy. A movie boy. Doesn't. And instead you became a TV boy. A TV boy. The boy of TV.

First, I was a candy boy. I thought I was going to be a movie boy. For people who don't know, and you haven't heard our other show about various bands, Adam started on the Santa Cruz Pier as a candy. Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, sorry, as a candy boy. And you explain what a candy boy is? A candy boy is literally what they called us. We were the boys that made the candy at Marini's.

Still there. You can go. There are still plenty of candy boys there right now. There are candy boys there dressed in white making taffy and waving to tourists. Are you in the Candy Boy Hall of Fame? Do they have like headshots up there of like all the candy boys who have made it? Or do they consider what you've done to be selling out? And they put up, like, you know, pictures of candy boys who actually make candy now for a living.

Who remained candy boys throughout their lives. Yeah, that's right. I'm persona non grotto right there. Do you go there every single time you go back to Santa Cruz? Every single time. Kind of like, because I know you're probably in, you know, incognito and you're wearing a baseball cap. And then you're like, just like slowly lift up the baseball cap and then take off the fake beard. And you're like, guess who?

Hey, guys. It's me. And they just continue making candy. So Candy Boy to hoping to be a movie boy, but then kind of going like, well, you know, crampus and all that. But hey, TV Boy is where it's at. Now, two TV shows, one of which is called Severance. Yeah. And the season finale of which comes out this week.

That's right. And Severance is about the age-old question, is it not? How do you separate work and family? Yeah. It's a very, very, it's that question we all, I, stay up all night thinking about. Sure. All night. Yeah.

Family, work. How do you keep them apart? Even the words are so similar. Family and work, they rhyme. Yeah. I know. So it's hard to say one without saying the other. You can't.

You can't. So it's just too, it's too hard. It's like, I have to go spend time with my work. I mean, my family. I'm going to go put my. My work to bed. I mean, my family. I'm going to bring my work on vacation.

I mean, my family. It's just the things that we all say every single day on and on. And so finally, when someone else, and I don't want to know who, but when someone wrote this show, you must have been like, whoa. Yeah. That was my only reaction. Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. Yeah. I can only imagine. And the next thing I knew I was on the set making it. But they asked about the car. They asked about the gas tank. They did. Yeah.

Okay. They did. They said, do you have a car? Does it have four wheels? Does it have a gas tank? Is there gas in it? And when all of the answers to those were no, they said, okay, we'll buy you a car. We'll buy you a gas tank.

We'll buy you four wheels. Four wheels and put gas in all. That's right. So now Ben Stiller directs this show. Does he not? Now, I got to ask, did he have that jizz in his hair from something about Mary the entire time?

No one knows that that's... Still there! That's how Ben works. Yeah, Ben directed it. I can feel you pivoting towards a serious answer. I'm very interested. I should say Aifa McCartle also directed three of them and did a great job.

Which three? Number four, five, numbers four, five, and six, which are words. They are, yes, thank you for saying those. Was Ben, what was going out with Ben during four or five and six? He disappeared. Really? Just off the grid?

Yeah. Does he do that a lot? Is that? When the numbers four, five, and six come up. Anytime they come up? Well, half the city disappears. Really? Yeah.

You didn't. Half of which city that you filmed in New York City? You filmed in New York City. All of New York disappears. Whenever there's a, there's a television show filming. Yeah. And they get to episodes four, five, or six, half the city disappears. Half the city. Which half? Is it like, not the Upper West Side?

Oh, no, no, no. Oh, thank goodness. No, half the population just disappears. They go to the Hamptons. Oh, oh, I see. Okay. So this is the summer. This is the summertime. Oh, okay, got it. I understand. I understand what's happening. And it always just coincidentally coincides with four or five and six. of all TV shows. Right, yeah, the schedule, yeah. You start with one in January,

and by the time you get to four, it's summer. Yeah, yeah. And what's, I mean, this show, God, you know, you got to tell people what it's about. Don't you? Really? In a situation like this? Yeah, it's science fiction. Like lasers and space monsters and shit like that?

monsters and spaceships and uh and different planets we every episode we're on a different planet wow really so the ones in our uh solar system or that's right that's right so you go from earth uh no it's uh there's a you get a chip in your brain and you go to work and you don't know who you are in the outside world and then you leave work and you don't know what you did at work or what your job is at all so you're so you don't have that stress of like oh gosh, I can't, I'm spending all night thinking about what I have to do. That's right. But at the same time, you have no idea what you do for a living.

That's right. You can enjoy your personal life and focus on your work completely. They're totally separate. No, this TV show doesn't make sense because I think that like so much of your identity is wrapped up in, you know, how good you are at your job and stuff like that. So it doesn't make sense. And I don't think this is a good TV show. Well, that's, that's the initial knee-jerk reaction.

Um, that, uh, wait, you're saying they deal with that on the show? That is what they deal with on the show. Whoa. No, it's, that's what's explored. Oh, okay. Yeah. Interesting. Oh, okay.

I was thinking that if they were not to bring that up and everyone just has a good time the entire time. Yeah, no, that's not what happened. So you're saying it's a bad thing. Well, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but, you know, there might be some conflict involved in, you know, exploring that scenario. Still, you know, when I think about like, I can only imagine that I would be at work and not knowing I have a family and, like, be hitting on everyone, you know, who's there at work and stuff like that. So that's why it's a bad idea. So when you, when you, when you would be at work and cut off from the outside world, you would just be a total horn dog.

Yeah. So is every character horny all the time? That's what I'm getting with. It's just a bunch of horn dogs. Oh man, I'm so glad we get to say horn dog today. I thought we wouldn't. I thought we wouldn't, yeah. Did they consider calling to show the horn dogs instead of whatever it is called? There are a bunch of titles. Oh, okay. And I'd be lying if I said horn dogs wasn't one of them. So what are the other, I mean, what made the top five? Well, why don't you guess?

And I'll tell you if you're right or not. Okay. Peculiar jerk and his wacky neighbors and friends. Yeah. That was on the list. That was on the list, really. That was on the longer list, which was three titles. Three titles.

Oh, wow. That's a super long list. Okay. The ugly man has a decision to make. That was actually on the longer list than the... Than even that one? Yeah, it was four titles. Four titles.

Wow. The feckless cuck... Can't seem to figure out his shit. That was number two. That was number two. And then what it ended up being, severance was number one. Severance was number one. That's so interesting.

And they just went with number one because we ran out of time. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. Oh, let's just, which is, by the way, Hallowah, R.M. came out with that out of time record title. Did they know? They were out of time. Literally were out of time.

You should have called it out of time. That would have been a good idea. Although people would have thought it was about time travel. We can always change the title. That's the thing. Not enough shows change the title in the middle of the run. That's right. You know what I mean?

And I think, first of all, it's a good trick to try to trick people into watching something if they're not. That's right. Or repeating their viewing experience of the show because they think it's a new show. They think it's a new show. And so they watch the first season all over again. That's right. This is a good idea. You know what?

I'm going to call Apple TV. Plus, I'm going to tell them that idea. Who are the people over there at Apple? You're hanging out with Tim Cook all the time? Yeah. He's confusing, right? Because his name is Cook. and then, like, he works with computers.

It's like, change your name to Tim Computer. Yeah, but, you know, who knows, maybe he's a terrific cook. I don't know. I don't know. He could be. Did he cook for you while you were hanging out with him? No. This is weird.

I know. Like, he's a weird guy, right? Well, no, not necessarily. I just, I just think that, like, if your name was Scott Bicycle, you know. What would you expect to see me on every second of the day? I would expect you to at least acknowledge. that a bicycle is something that you, that people would expect you to be right. Right. So like if I were to come up to you and say, hi, my name's Scott Bicycle, it's just a name. I'm not on one right now. These are my legs.

So Tim Cook, to put everyone at ease whenever he meets people, I'm sure he says, listen, I know you're expecting me to be making a baked Alaska right now. Well, not only that, but he works with Apple. Right, which is a food. Which is a food. It's like, dude, come on. It's computers. Yeah. And it's freaking everything. everyone out. Yeah. This is a problem on the show? This was a huge, a huge issue. Everyone was so confused constantly if Tim Cook was making a meal or not, wherever he was.

Yeah. Because I'm sure he was never on the set, but you were constantly getting intel, I'm sure, about what he was doing, where he was. I think it was more we were all just wondering. I wonder if he's making something delicious right now. Were you constantly going to craft servicing? Tim? That's right. Anytime food was around.

Tim, is that you? Well, this sounds like a great show, and one that people definitely should be watching and binging, binge watching, you know, at least binge watching one episode at a time. Binge viewing. Binge viewing. Sure. Another great way to watch it. Sure.

You could also, like, do sort of mini watches, which are like one minute at a time. One minute. And, you know, you could also, like, consider it your job and then do, like, what Severance does, which is watch it as a job and then go spend time with your family and never think about it again. And figure out how to get paid for watching it as a job. You know, you could also pretend that it's a, what was that network called where their shows were five minutes, a quibby show and just watch it in 10, 12 minutes. Everything technically is a quibby show if you just watch, you know, 10 seconds of something. That's exactly right. You know what I mean?

Quibi, good idea. Yeah. Right? Sure. I mean, 11-minute shows. Sure. Why not? What could go wrong?

What could go wrong, you know? But severance is not 11 minutes. It is, as a matter of fact, more in the 60-minute range and 60 minutes you will not spend better elsewhere. It is a fantastic show. I'm sure once I watch it I'm gonna really mean that No, I'm glad that it created that impression I mean it seems like quality TV

The reviews have been good People are saying like wow Adam You know he was once known for light comedy Doing parks and recreation And party down and just sort of like You know spending his time doing that kind of thing And now he's known for whatever this is And it's, you know, some really good reviews.

I couldn't dream of a better review than that. That is, that is what I've been waiting for. It's an actor's dream, is it not? That's right. Well, shall we see you at the Emmys this year, do you think? Do you think this is the year where finally Adam Scott gets recognized and, you know what? I don't think so. Okay.

I don't think so. But now can I keep you to your promise that you made about the Oscars, if you recall? Of course. Of course. The Emmy is going to be tough. What was the, remind me of the promise. If you won an Oscar, you promised our listeners that you would go on stage and say, I'm going to shove this up my butt. You know what? That's less crazy than what happened last night.

Yeah, that's true. Ah, well, Adam Scott is here. Severance is the title. It's also the show. And it's also the show. And the new episodes come out on Fridays. This Friday is the final one? The season finale, but hopefully not the series finale.

Am I right? I hope so, too. There are nine episodes this season. So if you want to catch up, there are eight. And then the final one is on Friday, which would make nine. And that's the whole season. Yeah. So if you could, I mean, it's Monday today.

There's four days until Friday. Two hours a day, is that too much to ask? No. That's two-thirds of a Batman. It's nothing. Did you see Batman yet? I did. I haven't seen it.

Oh, cool. John Totoro's in it. He's on severance. Oh, yeah, he's great. Christopher Walken is on severance. That's right. Patricia Arquette. This is like a real who's who and you.

Yeah. And Zach Cherry? Zach Cherry. Britt Lauer. Okay. Tremel Tillman. Now we're just saying names. Yeah, I don't know who any of these people are.

So do you ever arrive on set? You're like, I don't belong here. I'm a piece of shit. Here I am, like, talking at John Totoro, one of the greatest. And Christopher Walk and two of the, and Patricia Arquette, multiple. Did she win multiple Oscars or just the one? Still. She won an Oscar, an Emmy.

An Emmy? Yeah. What hasn't Patricia Arquette won? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I guess the Tony and the Pulitzer. Pulitzer. Yeah. She will.

She will. Spike Guy's Choice Award. It's coming. Oh, man, that guy's choice award. That is elusive. Yeah. What about the SPs? Maybe she'll win an SP.

Oh, yeah, yeah. What do you got to do to win an SP? Be a running back. Yeah. Or do a really incredible dunk. Yeah. She could do it. Dunk the basketball.

I'm sure she, I mean, how long, and this is a serious question, how long would it take Patricia Arquette, who's so adept at doing anything? It seems like she can do anything. Yeah. To learn how to dunk a basketball, you know?

10 minutes. Probably 10 minutes. Yeah, exactly. Severance is the title. Yeah. Eight hours of your time until Friday, and then it'll take another hour. So nine hours total, and it's not much to ask. This is Adam Scott.

He's one of our oldest friends on the show. How long have you been on the show for 13 years at this point? Is that, is that right? Since you were a radio show. Yeah, since you're a radio program. He wants nine hours of your time. I need your nine hours. He needs nine hours of your time.

You're telling me you haven't listened to more than nine hours of him jabbering about you two and r em and everything he now he needs these nine hours you've listened to over nine hours of me talking about the very stupidest shit now i just want you to watch something good for nine hours for nine hours that's all he needs that's it god you've i mean think of the stupid shit you've done in your life for nine hours more than nine hours do this do this for adam scott yeah thanks scott all right very good well we need to take a break Is that all right with you? Oh, I'm excited about our guests.

Yes, we have a, coming up, we have a shoe designer and a novelist. You ever read a book? It's exciting. What's the, read a what? A book? God, how do I explain this? Oh, are we going to talk about the Red Hot Chill Peps? Probably not.

Okay. Okay. All right. Although that album came out of Friday. Oh, it did. Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah. What do you think?

Well, I'm, that's why I want to talk. Okay. I want to talk about it. Should we talk about it on our other show? Maybe so. Okay, great. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we have a shoe designer and a novelist.

This is very exciting. Our old buddy, Adam Scott, he just wants nine hours of your time. Nine. He'll be right back. We'll be right back with more comedy bang, bang, bang, ever this. Bye. Mate. Comedy bang, bang, we're back, Adam Scott.

We have just been talking about. about the Red Hot Chili Bubbers these entire. On and on and on and on. But we were also, to be fair, we're recording our other show during the break. Yeah, yeah. We did a full, how many episodes did we end up doing? 14.

14 episodes. On this one album. Yeah. Yeah. How many songs are on the actual album? 17, so. So, yeah, we still have three more to go. We'll do that in the next break.

Sure. But we need to get to our next guest. He's a shoe designer. Please welcome to the show Thomas Smash Potatoes. Hello, thanks for having me. Hi, Thomas mashed potatoes? Yes, I'm so glad to be here. It's hyphenated, I see.

Yes, mashed hyphen potatoes, Thomas, thank you. Yeah, this is Adam Scott. Oh, hi, hi, nice to meet you. No, hi, you too. I love your shoes. Oh, thanks, yeah. So you're, you're, I'm a shoe designer. Yeah, Oxford's are my specialty.

Oxford's, really? Yes, I, I, I. What is there to design about Oxford? Oh, there's so much. Don't they all just kind of come up the same way? No, no, no, that is it. Okay, what are, what's the criteria that makes it in Oxford? Love that you're asking me.

It is, you've got, whether it's a wingtip or not. Okay. Another word for wingtip is a brogue. Okay. So a full brogue is if you have the full wingtip, like the many, many dots you, you know, over. And a wingtip is, yeah, it's just like, the dots and the perforations, decorations. Is that braille? I've never thought of it as braille, but let me just check.

Let me feel this one. I believe this is braille. Could a blind man or daredevil or whatever, like go down there and feel a shoe and go like. A blind man or daredevil. Either one could equally do well at feeling the bumps on a shoe and trying to interpret them perhaps. Or a phrenologist? Do they actually say? something, though? Like, hi, this is a shoe you're feeling it. That is a great suggestion,

and I've never thought of putting messages into my wingtip designs, but you certainly could. Yes, the medium would allow it. The one you're holding now. Does that have a message in it, or you're feeling it? I'm just checking now. I unfortunately have inadvertently, it seems, I do happen to know Braille, and I've never thought to check this. How did you learn Braille? Oh, gosh, I was an overachieving Boy Scout. Just I got every... That was a merit badge? Oh, yeah. Braille's a huge one. Really? So are you fluent? Fluent in Braille and ASL and semaphore.

Really, that's the flags. The flags, yeah, they trade every Boy Scout and Girl Scout, because now girls are allowed in the Boy Scouts. What do you think about that? I love it. You're frowning. I love it. I'm just, I'm scared of change by nature and also women terrify me.

You were doing a thumbs down side. I have some issues that are coming out, yes. Okay, interesting. I know that I should be into it. Let's put it that way. I get it. You were doing it like you didn't think anyone was going to. to hear it on the show. So it was like a safe space for you. So I'm sorry to call it out.

No, no, no. I appreciate it because I'm in therapy to try to improve my admittedly very backwards and hateful positions on women and most social issues. But I know that I'm wrong and I'm trying to do better. Well, that's good. Thank you so much. But yes, I fear and loathe women. And then also, um, but I, but I love shoes. And primarily, which is more important to you? The, the fearing and loathing women or the shoe design? Shoes. I mean, you're more of a two guys. I'm into the shoes. I don't love. the detestable and abhorrent part of my personalities. I'm really, please.

Okay. My intention is to be a good person. Okay. Well, you know, the best we can do is just keep trying and keep plugging away at it. Gosh, that is soothing to me. Yeah. I love a low expectations mantra. Well, wonderful.

But I love shoes, yes. So wingtips is one way you can go. Also, the hue and color. There's a variety of browns and blues and blacks in your traditional Oxford. You know, I don't think that. that colors are necessarily, you know, when I say, like, what is in Oxford? What are the criteria of an Oxford? You don't think of that as a part of what makes an Oxford or an Oxford?

Yeah, like the Oxford's can be different colors. You know, a traditional Oxford tends to be from the blue, black, or brown hue. Certainly, you can have a green Oxford. Well, then what are we talking about? But the true Oxford aficionados will know you're taking a risk. Okay. You're taking a risk if you go into the green hues. But what is an almond hue is a classic oxford tone?

Stop talking about colors, please. Sorry, once I get going, I'm like a wind-up man. What makes an Oxford is it's a hard shoe, right, with a hard soul. It's a hard shoe. It's a dress shoe. Yeah, it's a dressy shoe. But you can say that about a lot of things. What distinguishes an Oxford?

It's a narrow toe as a traditional oxford. If you've got a wide, fat toe in an Oxford, that ain't an Oxford. It's not an Oxford. Maybe it's easier to describe it. what isn't in Oxford than it is to describe what in Oxford actually is. All right, no... For me, not for you, because you're a shoe designer,

so go ahead and... Tell us exactly what a doctor is. But I will educate you, the dummy, on what it takes to be an Oxford or not an Oxford. So no representations of human faces. Some shoes have drawings of humans on them or like... Drawings of humans? What do you call the old Michael Jordan Nike symbol?

That's a drawing of a human? Oh, yeah. I guess so. I mean, not a face. I mean, it's more of a silhouette, right? But any representation of human... Michael Jordan. Yeah, you can't...

Adam, by the way, is posing in that pose right now. Yeah, just like that, Adam. That's exactly right. I literally can't think of another shoe other than Air Jordans that have a drawing of a human on them. I feel like I've seen it. I remember... Buster Browns?

Hey, I don't mean to show my age, but in the early 80s, there was a whole Happy Days line of shoes where you could get the Fonz on the back of a shoe. On the back of a shoe. Ralph Mouth on the back of a shoe. Ralph Mouth on the back of a shoe. I picked Ralph Mouth.

I was a Ralph Mouth guy. I liked George Harris. is my favorite beetle and Ralph Mouth was my favorite happy days. George Harrison is not the Ralph Mouth of the Beetle. George Harrison is. Absolutely he is the Ralph Mouth of the Beatles. And Mouth was constantly being told to sit on it. Yeah, so is George Harrison.

No, he's at least the third most favorite beetle of everyone. Yeah, and Ralph Mouth is the third most favorite happy days after Fonzie and Ritchie. No, you got Fonzie and Ritchie. That's the John and Paul, right? We agree on that. That's fine. But Mr. C. That's George Martin.

You're out of your mind. He's not in the band. No, but that's... Are you crazy? That's not... You're not even mentioning Mrs. C. She's not in the band. Sure she is.

She's got a hatred of women. Sorry, that's saying, hang on. You're right. You're right, Adam, and thank you. Mr. and Mrs. C are like the rhythm section of happy days. Yeah. Interesting take that is wrong. Ringo and Paul is what you're trying to say.

That's right. That's right. Mr. Mississippi or the Ringo and Ball. That's right. What about Johnny? What about Chachi? Johnny, that's interesting. I'd say they're like the Jerry and the Perry and the

pacemakers, like a spin-off that's inspired greatly by the original ensemble. You know a lot about the Beatles. It's almost like you have a podcast. I've never heard of them. I've got to be honest. I'm gleaning just from this conversation what they're about. Really? I'm guessing.

Whoa, off the dome. I heard somebody yesterday make fun of George Harrison. I was like, I got to work that in. Okay. I actually don't know anything about that. What was this person saying? This person, I was walking near a cabby, and he was like, get out of my cab. You're like the George Harrison of passengers, and I could tell it was a pejorative.

So I held on to it, and I was like, I'm going to use that as an insult because I'm trying to appear smarter. Interesting. Cab driver. Anyway, Oxford's. So narrow toe. No human faces. No human faces. That's important. Oh, this was a literate man. He was an aerodyte man. He was really given them the what for. And I got to be honest, the passengers seemed like they deserved it. You can't always tell when you're just walking by an altercation. But this sort of seemed like two sort of ne'er-do-well, agro, alpha, no-good, no-go. Okay. So two alphas coming They just had their chest popped up. Sometimes big dog got a bark.

Sometimes big dog got a park. Were they passengers with you in the cab? No, no, no, I was walking by. I had nothing to do with any of these people. The cabby wasn't yelling this at you. No, no, no, no. I was walking by. Do you not own a car?

I don't. I like to walk. I'm a shoe guy and I'm a foot guy. So you, when you say you're a shoe guy, you like to put him to work. Absolutely. I'm not, I don't like to, hey, shoes ain't made to be put on a shelf. You put them on your feet. They're not, they're not meant to press gas pedals up and down and, and, and,

No, you kind of get to. out there and it's to it's for man and woman to walk around the earth you must go through a lot of shoes if all you do is walk if that's a mode of transportation and a well-made shoe will last you even if you're putting serious miles on it you're going to get one to two years out of a good well-made shoe really now i just say i don't walk around my oxford's too much because that's a dress shoe for formal occasions it's not a walking shoe what do you walk in i walk in trainers as the brits column or i'm so sorry sneakers oh god it's it's kind of you know trainers make makes more sense.

Yes, but, you know, we hear the States. You don't sneak that often in your sneakers. Where are you sneaking around to in your tennis shoes? But training, you're running. That's a form of training. You do that in your trainers. Exactly. Or any kind of athletic activity.

Do you design these types of shoes? Never. No, you're just. I've done it as a matter of apprenticing my Oxford skills. You mentioned the Air Jordans. Did you design those? I wish. I wish.

I went through a strict apprenticeship where you had to make a lot of Air Jordans as part of your certification. You had to prove that you could theoretically, if asked, make an accurate... Oh, so this wasn't even for the Nike Corporation. They were just like, as part of your training, hey, make an Air Jordan. I apprenticed with a distinguished cobbler in New England,

and he was great, and he would make you make every kind of sort of classic shoe. Oh, really? So what are the classics? What do we got? Sandals. Sandals. Air Jordan.

Birkenstocks? No. This guy didn't respect Birkenstock because he was very anti-hipy. Oh. What did he have against hippies? Oh, God knows. He didn't like drug use. Was it the culture? Oh, is drug use?

He was older. You know, he just never caught up. The long hair part of it? He just, you know, he was a real like pro government. You stand up and you salute old glory. What about the free love? Was he conservative? No, he was very conservative.

Just a one woman guy or? He had one woman. Yeah, I was married not happily. I mean, this guy had a lot of issues in his emotional life, which I unfortunately. What was going on in his marriage? I think they just weren't happy in, but they stuck it out because they came from a generation where you just you don't give up. Right.

And how did you clean all of this? I had an affair with his wife. Yes. God. We became very close and it ended my, it ended my apprenticeship. Oh, no. So you never completed your actual apprenticeship. Did you have to start over with another? I never, I felt, not only a new master.

What do you call a, someone you're taking? I think you are supposed to call them a master, but nobody does that anymore, but that is. But not only a new master, but did you have to start over with a new woman? I did. I mean, I lost my relationship and friendship. And I felt that I had learned enough, so I did not begin my training a new, from the woman and the learning these shoes. Like, oh, I get this.

This goes in here. I mean, look, she was very sexually adventurous, and I suppose I did learn things from her, but I did not see that as an apprenticeship. I just saw that as a relationship of passion that went awry. And I betrayed my teacher, and I felt bad about it. It was not right to anybody. I was doing nobody any good.

How long did you feel bad? A couple days. Yeah. And then I was like, you know what's done is done. Yeah. On to more shoes. So you've designed, mainly you're an Oxford guy. Thank you.

Right. Yes, mainly I'm an Oxford guy and I have a little Etsy shop, which is currently not up because it's been banned for hate speech. Oh, boy. Not mine. Not mine. Other customers. I've, of course, I attract a lot of jerks.

Really? Why would you, I mean, what is it about your shoes that? I mean, you know what they say? Like, if you're a comedian who has like a shitty audience. You're partly responsible for it. Well, hey, I agree with that. I want to do better to attract. I'm talking to my audience.

right now. Oh, you're talking about yourself? You seem to be a jovial fellow. I wouldn't think of you as someone who attracts a bunch of jerks. Yeah. But what is it about your Etsy shop that's attracting these people

who are leaving hate speech? I have a lot of like aggressive and preemptively defensive shoe names. Oh, like what? One of them is like the real side of the story wingtips. Another one is what the left won't say. And why are you?

I don't know why I do it. I like salty names of brands to try to like get people. I'm having trouble with sales. It's getting my attention, yeah. Yeah. And I don't even agree with those things. I, you know, it's so.

I can understand you pander to a certain audience. That's what it is. It's pandering, and so I'm not going to do that anymore. So when my Etsy shop is a lot back online, it's going to be perfunctory and unremarkable names only. Okay. And I'm going to try to just make it on the quality of the shoe. Okay. And are these shoes quality?

I would say, yes. I mean, of course, that's subjective. Of what type of quality? Good or poor? I would say good. The high and good quality, the admirable and desirable quality. Okay. And what makes them so good in your own?

They're well made. They will last you a long time. They are fashionable. You can't just say, when I say, why are these shoes good? You can't just say they're good because they're well made. That's like saying they're good because they're good. Would you say that's a tautology? Perhaps.

Like, how many dressy affairs would a pair of Oxford's last made? Now, that's a great question. If you had one of my oxfords, I would say it would work for you upwards of 50 dressy affairs. And you could go nuts. How many are you going to a year, Adam? I don't know. No, you're a, you're a, 300 dressy affairs per year? Well, I consider every day except 65 a dressy affair during a year.

Hey, you know, you're a dapper gentleman who wants to be well appointed, then I would say a pair of oxers is perfect for somebody like you. Thank you. I would recommend an almond, hewed wingtip or half brogue. That might, that might do you nicely. You keep mentioning this word brogue, like it's something that you... It's an alternate word for wingtip. They say it in Britain. Right.

Forgetting, I'm talking to Americans. Oh, God. So sorry, wingtip is what I mean, a half-wing. But wait, you're American, aren't you? I'm American, but my mentor, mentor. That's a better word. That's not master. Mentor.

He was British. British-born and lived in New England. Really? Yeah. Did he know other famous Brits like J.K. Rowling? He knew a lot of them. Really? It's a small club.

Yeah. He knew Sir Paul. I don't know who that is. And J.K. Rowling. And who else? Was he? Was he, I mean, I can only imagine J.K. Rowling, she didn't used to be famous, but was he the inspiration, perhaps, for, you know, one of the characters in one of her books or something?

Who's the big hairy dude that likes animals? Hagrid. Him. He looked a lot like him, because he had the big, like, puffy, you know, beard, and he was a rough and tumble sort of salt to the earth energy kind of, I mean, lovable. Love, oh, really? Well, not to. 12 feet tall. Oh, no, he wasn't that. Is that part of Hagrid? I believe so. Sort of, yeah. I mean, Adam has not finished the book series. Is that a reveal that he's not 12 feet tall?

How many books in did you get it? Like three? Yeah, no, he shrinks down. Yeah, he does. Book four, yeah. It's revealed halfway through that it's been forced perspective that he's standing in the back of the room. It's just because Harry was always so small, but then when he grew up, he was like, oh, wait a minute, you're not 12 feet tall. You're actually just five feet.

So it could be that my mentor was an inspiration for Hagrid. Interesting. Yeah. But a warm fellow to his, to his apprentices, unless they're fucking his wife. Was he the inspiration, too, for? for J.K. Rowling coming out and saying that wizards before there were toilets would just shit on the floor and then they would make it disappear? Did she say that? Yes.

That's incredible. I don't think so. No, I'm trying to think he had it. That was the beginning of her descent into madness. He had a, he used a toilet from what I recall. So maybe there was something between them. So wasn't something where she saw him shit on the floor and said, I got to use that. I have to admit, that wasn't part of my relationship with him.

We didn't explore his relationship with. Was it part of your relationship with his wife? though. I'm not going to get into the finer details of our sexual exploits but yes. So a lot of like shitting on the chest and stuff like that? We went through a whole, we tried a lot of things

that ended up not being for us but our motto was why not whenever it came to trying something. It's like that movie Yes Man. Yeah, exactly. Only it was more like yes ma'am what a great film. Really good right? Yeah, yes ma'am was sort of my attitude towards her but again I regret

the relationship. It was started under false pretenses and then nothing how did it what do you mean it started under far i lied to her i was like um i am royalty uh they were they were both angliophiles and i said that i was 25 in line for the throne and that began our romantic relationship as an american you're you were 25th in line yes well that's what i told her that must be hard to pull off i mean a lie like that i mean that's i figured that number 25 she'd just be like oh i guess you know he's like his grandfather was an earl or something like that and you know he's somewhere in line and so because 25, I mean, like, number two has been waiting for 40 years.

Yeah, that's right. But if you're an anglophile or you're someone who's into the royals, anybody... We just had someone on last week who is a royal watcher. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So I bet you if I lied to this person and said that I was 25th of 3rd... He would have sex with you. Yeah, I would imagine.

I would imagine. So, and that would be under false pretenses. That would be, I would... If somebody wants to have sex with me, I wanted to be because of who I am or the quality of my shoes, perhaps. If they're impressed with my... How many times does that ever happen where someone wants to have sex with you because of the quality of your shoes? Oh, got a question. Let me think about it.

None. Oh, really? Yeah, it's never happened. I said you were doing like beautiful mind style like math in your head. I went deep because I've met people in the, you know, other shoemakers and shoe fans, which then became romantic relationships. But it was never my ability to make shoes that attractive. So shoemakers and shoe fans, they mingle? Yeah.

Yeah. It's a pretty tight fraternity. And shoe shoo. And show. Shoo fans. Yeah. That's what I'm saying is like, podcasters and podcast fans aren't always like...

Oh, there's lots of shoe fans. Absolutely, yeah. If you're a shoemaker... That's not what I'm saying. What are you saying? I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of shoe fans. I'm saying that the podcast makers and the podcast fans aren't intermingling all the time. That might be your experience.

Clear divide of if you're a podcast guy, you're on this side of the line. If you're a podcast listener, you're on that side of the line. Unless there's a convention or something. Sure. The fans at a... Yeah, you have like shoe cons, you know, or auction. Oxford cons, you know, we're trainer cons in Britain, and you, and you, part of it is mingling, meet and greet, work the people, press the flesh, ask what their name is, you know,

make a minimum of five seconds of eye contact, you know, normal things that people do to appear normal. Yeah, you sound like you're training yourself to be a human being. You know, I'm a shy person, and sometimes it's difficult to meet strangers. I don't think I'm alone in this, and I'll have little tips I have taken with me to to try and try to be nice. Yeah, what are the tip? Minimum five seconds eye contact.

Minimum of five. Repeat back their names to them as often as possible. Okay, what are our names? Oof. One of you is Adam. Okay. And, oh, gosh, the other one is shot? It's close.

Very close. And I have noticed you have not looked either of us in the eye this entire time. It's so difficult for me. It's emotional, let me try it. I want my five. Okay, here we go. You looked away at two. It's so tough.

It's tough. Yeah. It's not easy. That's actually kind of a long time to make eye contact. It's almost too long. If someone were to give me a tight five, I don't know. But if you were shoe fans and I met you at an Oxford con, I would really, I would really try to step up and be there and make the whole five. Yeah.

You know, because it's a shoe fan. I mean, it's interesting because I wear them. Am I a shoe fan? Absolutely not. That is not. I'm not even close to being enough. With the questions you've asked me, you gave away, you're what? I'm a sock fan because I wear those under my shoes.

I don't think that makes one a fan. You must have an enthusiasm, a hunger for knowledge, a curiosity. I can tell you, if I were to walk outside right now, especially because it's raining outside, I would put shoes on. That doesn't make you a fan. Listen to yourself. You sound like a babbling idiot right now. Now you're giving me the eye contact and you're not looking away. So how many pairs of shoes does one have to have to be a shoe? I think it's more of the emotion you have towards the shoes and not the quantity.

Quantity could be a symptom of it. How many shoes do you own? Oh, gosh, because I've made so many. Yeah. Six pairs, six pairs of shoes? Six pairs. So 12 shoes a total? 12 shoes.

And I love them. They are family to me, and I rotate them in and not very carefully. And that includes the one. Like I replace them. Sorry, that includes the ones you've made? Yeah. Well, I've sold a lot of them, you know what I mean? Or I've given them away.

So the ones that I have kept where I make a pair and I'm like, I can't give you away. these are too perfect i can only imagine adam it's like you of like you do a take and you're like guys that one's for me i'm gonna keep this i'm gonna keep the film that's right this i'm taking that home with me i'm gonna wear it i've watched television shows where a particular scene seems lacking and i'm like i bet the actor kept yeah kept the good take and so right and i respect it happens all the time i respect that um so yeah you know a shoe fan is the emotion and the passion that you have if you if you had more knowledge or curiosity about a shoe i'd say you were Who owns the most pairs of shoes in the world?

I think Imelda Marcos was famous for owning lots of shoes. Right. But she's dead. Now, are you worried that if you were to own a lot of shoes, you would be dead too? It only stands to a reason. Let me follow this. So you'd think that the reason Imelda Marcos is dead is because she had a lot of shoes? I'm saying that it's possible.

So let's do a Socrates thing. Amelda Marcos had a lot of shoes. Amelda Marcos is dead. Therefore, having a lot of shoes make sure. makes you dead. Okay. Yeah, I guess that does follow. It does stand the reason. I've never before been scared of it, but now I am. Yeah. So I think six, six is pushing it. No, no, no. I've kept it. I'm a man of simple means. I don't like to have a lot of possessions. I feel like that's not nearly enough for a shoe fan.

I've had more in the past. I once had like hundreds of pairs of views. Yes, and I just, it felt excessive. And so I delit, part of my sort of becoming a better person when I realized I had a fear and loathing towards women and really just everybody. and I was like, I want to be better, I want to improve, and I went into therapy, and I read lots of sort of books on improving yourself. Part of it was like, I'm too attached to material possessions. Okay. So I got rid of, I was like, the hardest thing for me to get rid of will be the shoes. Yeah.

Did you save them for last? Yes, it was the last thing to go. So got rid of everything else. All my silks, my spices, bonds, and investments. Are you on the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria? I wish. What a life. Oh, man. What a life. When you think about it, those guys had it all.

I mean, one reason why you'd leave Europe to go over an ocean that maybe doesn't go anywhere because your life is great. That's a sure side of the people on those boats as everything was going right for them. Wow. Yeah, so I gave a lot up and the last thing was the shoes because it was emotionally very difficult for me. But when I finally did it, I did feel unburdened and I felt like this is, you know, I am really trying to become a better. better person. So the six you kept must really mean something then. Yes, they are. Five of the pairs

are ones that I made. And what's the sixth? And the sixth one it's my Ralph Mouth sneakers from whatnot 1980s. You can't. You still have those. Okay. Sentimental. They were a gift from my parents. Oh, really? Are your parents still with us? No, they're not. They've how do you say, died?

Yeah. How did they pass away, if you don't mind me asking? Oh, they lived a long life Until what? No, see, I was asking the opposite. How did they die? How did they die? Not did they live a long life?

Oh, until what? Not until like how long? No, yeah. How did they die is what I'm asking? My father died of a heart failure, and my mother was unfortunately vaporized. Vaporized. What happened? Well, I don't totally know.

I think she might have been a spy. She got into some sort of altercation with a strange man who came to the door and vaporized her. How does that? Jesus. pointed some sort of futuristic-looking blaster and she just disseminated into atoms. Really? But she was already an old lady

who had a great life and I was like, hey, it had to happen somehow. Is there like a pile of like? Yeah, pile of, yeah, I tried to reconstitute the ash. I tried to rehydrate the ash. By what, pouring water on to it? I was distraught. I was distraught.

That must have just made a mess. It did. It was like, what did I, why did I think this would work? And did you speak to the man before you left? I couldn't. He ran off. He was like, she deserved it and left. And I don't know what happened.

I don't know what happened. She was a mysterious lady with a lot of, with a lot of. But that was his last parting words to you was she deserved it. Yeah, he was like, don't come from me. She deserves it. And he ran off. And you said, okay. I said, I believe it.

He had a real conviction about his voice. Yeah. Wow. And like, she was, uh, 76, you know, and I was not that old to be like, it's fine. She was vaporized. But it's, you know, it was sad, you know, and I miss her, but I wouldn't call it. How long were you said?

A couple days. A couple days. Yeah, you're a couple days guy. You have to move on. You can't. change the pass. So what do you got in the hopper? What are you designing?

Well, once that Etsy shop gets back online, I'm going to do a beach-hued half-wing-tip Oxford. Okay. That is for spring only. And it's going to be... And Oxford's for spring. And I got three sizes. Weak, normal, and whoa.

Weak is seven men or smaller. That's weak-sized, and then normal is like eight, nine, or ten. And then bigger than that is, whoa. I got to say, if I were an eight, and I'm wearing something that a 10 could wear, that's not going to be comfortable. Eight is weak. Eight and lower is weak. Nine, ten, and eleven is normal. And then twelve and higher. But nine, ten, and eleven, I'll have the same size. They all the same size. Make it work is what I say. Make it work. Put some tissue in there. That's what they did in the old days of England. Put tissue in there. Just, you know, stuff it. You know, you could, you know, or, you know, whatever you got to do. So, so. Weak normal or woe. Those are the three sizes of them. Week normal or woe. But what is the actual shoe that you're

that you're designing what do you mean i mean what are the features on it what are i mean is there a drawing of a human face never i only do oxford okay you do oxford's yeah so beach hewed you beach hewed half wingtip uh spring uh dress shoe okay what looks it's spring is it the color is it uh does that the scent the scent pine scented spring is spring is pine scented i think of it i think of it as pine anything just trees what is beach huge mean Beach Shute is like a, it's like a light brown sort of butterscotch. Like a sand color. Yeah, a little darker, but you're in the right.

So a butterscotch shoe that smells like pine trees. Well, I wouldn't call butterscotch. It's beach hute. It smells like a bitterscotch. Pine-scented beach-hued, half-wing-tip spring dress. Ten bucks. That might be way too small or big for you. Or too big.

Yeah. Or not necessarily. Sounds great. So if you can get through the hate speech on your Etsy shop. Just for my customers, not for me. And that's been taken down, which I endorse that being taken down. Great. And how do people get to this? I have no idea.

Okay. All right. Well, fantastic. Well, Thomas, it's great to have you on the show. Can you stick around? Yeah, I got nothing going on. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back.

We have more Thomas mashed potatoes. More Adam Scott. We'll be right back with more Comedy Bang Bang. I have this. Comedy Bang Bang. We're back. Adam Scott. Star of Severance

is on the show and if you get a season two are you going to get in there and be like hey I want to write the next season? Oh man. There's a ton of stuff I'm going to do. Because it must be so frustrating to have like you get a TV show and it's like

oh this is going to be awesome and then suddenly they send you all these pages of things that they're telling you you have to do. Yeah, Dan Erickson who created the show and writes the show. You know, I'm gonna we get season two i'm gonna just sit down and be like dan listen right not right whatever it doesn't matter i'm just here's what the a dog is up to yeah i'm really gonna get in the saddle

and make some changes cool mostly all having you know internal changes with me but it's gonna right you and the show right in a huge way that's the way to do it yeah no that's what people want from an actor swing that big d around yeah yeah just just uh just really get in there and let everyone know how you're feeling about everything. Fantastic. Well, the notoriously difficult to work with Adam Scott is here. Absolutely. And we also have Thomas Smash Potatoes, who seems, I mean, self-employed, so I don't know whether, I mean, I guess you were difficult to work with your mentor, but I've had mostly poor relationships with my co-workers.

And also with women, it seems like, has a real huge issue, which we haven't even really gone into. Nor should we, really, as far as I'm trying to get better. We have to get to our next guest, a novelist. This is very exciting. Please welcome Mariska Bienerbutten. Well, that's close enough. I'm sorry, you told me how to say it, but I can't remember. Been about it.

Been about it. It's Dutch. It means like within and without, like inside outside. It's beautiful. Sort of like California living, you know, where like you open up the wall. Yeah, like Al Fresco. Yeah. Why isn't your name weird Alfresco?

I guess because my parents couldn't choose their last name and because they probably did not want to name me a boy's name and because in Dutch we, in Holland, we don't like to be weird. Oh, is that that part of the culture? Sure, yeah. I would say that's part of the United States culture too, which is why it was so refreshing when Al came out and said, no, I am weird. You think that Americans aren't weird?

I think Americans are weird, but they don't want to be perceived as weird. It's so interesting. You find them to be weird? I think that you are always trying to be so weird. Like you have your flannel kind of slightly unbuttoned right now. Yeah, that's right. That's so... And your pants, by the way, which if you could take the...

Oh, I'm so sorry. That's legitimately weird. I apologize for that. I think that's a salt. But the top part is just a little bit weird, isn't it? Like, wear it like a shirt. The flannel shirt being unbuttoned is a little weird? Well, with a T-shirt under.

It's like you're trying to wear a dress shirt, but at the same time you're unbuttoning it, but then you're... Covering up your chest. Wait, so you think anyone who wears a shirt with a collar unbuttoned with a t-shirt under it? With no T-shirt, like, take the T-shirt off and wear it like a normal Dutch businessman, which is like four buttons undone, no shirt underneath. That's what a normal Dutch business. It's normal. So you're seeing what I'm doing is sort of mixed signals kind of, like T-shirt and a flannel, but I'm not committing.

I mean, I've never thought about it that way. It is mixed signals in a way. And it's a waste because now you've dirty two shirts. Yeah, just that's for sure. And you're wearing them both out, so you're going to, your clothing budget is going to go through the roof. It's like you're paying for twice as many clothes when you do this. That's right. It's just not practical. I never thought about it, but what I am doing now is freakish.

Yeah. But in Holland, we have a saying that the tallest flower gets its head chopped off by the lawnmower. Oh, my God. So it's a little bit like, don't stand out, like you idiot, just get low and just be normal for once. Get low. That's a terrifying saying. Yeah. Yeah.

It makes me want to just stay, stay quiet and stay low. Yeah. You see now why there aren't that many famous Dutch people. Yeah. Or weird Dutch people. I can think of the little Dutch boy. Right. And.

Who was American. Buster Brown that you said before. Buster Brown, yeah, yeah. I mean, he seemed Dutch. He definitely had a Dutch. If he was Dutch, if he was Dutch, it would be spelled B-R-U-I-N, Buster Brown. Like how Brown is spelled. Okay.

Huh, so the, I can't think of a single other. I mean, was Hamlet? He was, he was the Mel. He was Danish. Yeah, yeah. Common mistake. But anyway, sorry, that's just all about how my parents probably why they didn't name me weird Al. Right, yeah.

Good answer. Good answer. And incredibly fair and generous answer to the question, why weren't you named Weird Al? So Mariska, how do you say it again? Been about that. Been about the. In out. In and out, yeah. Well, that's not going to help me.

Okay, I'm sorry. But you're a novelist. Yeah, I've just finished my first romance novel. Oh, is that primarily the... This is the genre that I've always wanted to work in. Oh, so you haven't yet. This is your first. This is my first.

It's a serious, it's passionate, very sexy, very sort of... This is like a way where you can kind of play out your fantasies in the book while you're reading it, and you get to feel what it would be like to live this, this sexy. Oh, my gosh. So could it, could it be that a man who himself has made personal mistakes that he feels guilty about could read a romance novel and think I am worthy of love? This could happen to me. Next time you try to ask like a hypothetical, don't point to yourself like that.

Because then it blows. It's a giveaway. Yeah, you were doing sort of the Who Has Two Thumbs and then, okay. And he was talking about himself, this guy kind of thing. So you guys could pick up that I was talking about myself? but the answer is yes it's for everybody men women yes and it's for men and women

is that okay Thomas yes I say carefully yes of course it is of course it is okay I have learned to appreciate but that said Mariska are not romance novels mainly read by women

sure yeah that's a big part of the audience I think men maybe get a little bit bored like well I think like they like Playboy article length. They want like 30 seconds and then they're like, you know. That's Playboy article length to 30 seconds. Oh yeah.

That's happened to Playboy. The articles have gotten incredibly short. It used to be that you'd say, oh, I read it for the articles because the articles were actually good. Right. But they've like, they've like, they've quibified them.

They're like, they're right down to like. Everything's been quibified these days. Oh, yeah. I used that as an example and I didn't know how long they were. I pictured them like a little blur. They are now. Oh, okay. They're blurby.

Like, shoot. But back in the day, it was like, you'd go page after, but you'd go, sometimes you'd go like 40 pages before seeing some fucking fucking pussy. Yeah, no, that's a long time for men. Yeah. No, but so I think the women like the longer experience. They like the whole summer on the beach reading this story. This one is for men. The men could find.

Both can, yeah, it's not exclusive. If a guy has the patience to read something. Sure. where it's like takes a long time before the dirty deed. And I'm finding that a lot of people like this book, they're all finding it very across the board. I'm getting great reviews. What is the book? It's called the polder model.

And it's... The polder model? Yeah, this is sort of a... It's a little bit of a play on the word. So in Dutch culture, we have this concept, the polder model. The polders are like little islands off the coast. Okay. And back in the, like, 15th century, all of them flooded.

and everyone in the polders had to work together to unflood by digging canals and making windows. Okay, got it. But in my story, the lead character, she's a model. Oh. And she's from the polders. The polder model. I see. So it's not one word.

It's two words. It's two words. Oh, and sorry, the polder model is something we use now in banking and stuff to say, like, if we have to work together, we have to use the polder model. Oh, so it's a plot to play on word. It's a play on this, yeah. That's funny. Thank you. That's so funny.

Thank you. Now that I know what it means, it's hilarious. It's making me, wow. That's very, really, really, it's very funny. I like, I like, this is what I like. I'm really laughing right now. Yeah, I'm laughing with you. I love jokes about banking.

So do I. Yeah. So do I. So the lead character is a model, right? Wow. Good setup. So how, like, what are we talking to? 10.

Of what? On a scale of 1 to 10, like it. Oh, Oh, I mean, yes. Like, she's famous. She's a working model. She's in... Do the Dutch not have the system of rating from one to ten?

That seemed to throw you completely. Yeah, I've never heard that... How do you rate that? We all look very similar. There's no... So everyone's a 10? Yeah. There's no ratings at all for anything then?

Also, like, why? Why? Just like, if you're interested in them, talk to them, why do you need to like... I guess in a country that has the tall, tall, poppy... Yeah. Metaphor. You don't want to be a 10. That's right.

So, like it's a fine. If you were listening to the new Red Hot Chili Peppers album, for instance, you would just say... It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. And that'd be a compliment. That would be a good thing. Right.

Yeah, it's fine. So she's... So she looks like everyone else. She looks like everyone else. But is everyone a model then? I mean, they could be. They could be, but she just chose to be. And she's doing well for herself.

The book starts and we find out she is the woman on all of the pamphlets that talk about what sort banking plans you can get and like how to use your card yeah so what is she doing on these like what are some of the poses like she's like she's like in like an office and she's sort of reaching for a bank card and she's looking like oh that's interesting oh wow you're interested in doing it oh you'd be an excellent model oh my gosh you just haven't chosen to be that that's right yeah so she's like a super model then that's right she is super at her job she shows up on time she does not complain. Oh, yeah, the main attributes of models.

Yes, yes. She shows her paychev. Yeah, yeah. And not complaining. That's right. Right. Wow, so she sounds great at this. So she's on this pamphlet and everyone has seen this pamphlet.

Yeah, and it's like, and she, sometimes once in a while, like, the pamphlet is copied onto the side of a tram or a bus. And so she's really being seen. So she's at a conference and she sees this man in the back of the room and she sees and they see each other from. across the room and he looks like pretty much everyone else as well yeah same and it's just where her eyes have happened to fall yeah totally random for no particular reason that's right right and in and the next thing you know they're both going outside at the same time more

like okay okay okay they're going outside to talk to each other turns out they just both wanted the cigarette at the same time okay yeah good i was worried that it was going to be something sort of more spectacular, and I'm relieved to hear that it's business as usual. That's right, but they get outside, and it's just the two of them, right? And it's been a very nice day up until now. I mean, just the two of them in their area. Like, not in the entire world. No, that's right.

It's not science fiction. Other people are outside. Thank God you clarified it, because I did assume at that point that everyone else was dead. Everyone was gone. Or inside. That's what I. It's just the smoking area. That's right.

I'm glad you're not my editor. because I would not have liked to put that for every sentence. Just to clarify, they're not, it's only two people. I would be a harsh, harsh editor. I believe it. I would be a stern taskmaster. So you, yeah. It would be a long book, too.

Yeah. Well, I mean, for a lot of people, do you get paid by the page? No, I just get, we all get paid the same amount. Oh, no matter what you do. That's right. Oh, okay. I just, I don't know if this is off topic, but I'm writing a novel. Could I read just the first sentence and just hear what your guys' thoughts are on it?

Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love to hear a professor. I mean, this is just... I mean, we haven't even gotten through the premise of her book, but you're jumping into... I feel like I want to take over right now for a little bit, and then I will let it go. Okay. I only got to talk for 30 minutes. Yeah, sure.

Just real quick, just very quick. Sure. Yeah, we have a professional writer here. You want to be a writer. Even though that never came up in your segment. But go ahead. It's a hobby. And I just want to hear the Dutch, Dutch take on it.

Yeah. Okay, so the storms passed quickly, as did his love. It's not believable. Okay. The storms would not pass quickly. Oh, really? Is it very stormy? Yeah, it ranged like 95% of the time.

Oh, right. And why do we care about his emotions? It's the first sentence of the book. We don't even know this. This is a stupid book. I would not read it. Okay, a little harsher than I thought was coming, but I appreciate the honest. What if he changed it, though, to the storm did not pass quickly, but their love did.

Now I'm in. So it was the unbelievability of the storm that took you out. Now at least I know it's a real. story coming from a real place. It's professional feedback, and that's incredibly valuable. It's painful and I am hurt, but I do respect it. Are you willing to change it, though? Absolutely. I'm

always willing to change and improve. Since you talks about books, can I talk about the shoes I'm wearing? Oh, yeah, yeah, let's hear. I'll give you some feedback. You can tell me if they're Oxford's or not, because I could not tell your thing when I couldn't. It wasn't clear. Okay, so let me So these are like, these are my work shoes. These are my professional shoes.

They're lovely shoes. Let me just say. They're like a fuchsia, suede. boot with like two zippers on each shoe? Absolutely not an oxford. No? Already not an oxford. Already just because of the zippers? Well, the fuchsia.

You don't, I mean, that's not a traditional. That's right. I have seen beaches that have some, if you look very closely at some of the shells. If you want to tell me that's a beach hue, I'll let you buy in a technicality. Okay. But it's a boot with two zippers? Two zippers on each one and then fringe on the top that sort of comes down over the zippers. None of these are.

None of these are. They're a very garish shoes. It's almost going on. These are my work. These are my work. David Bowie lyrics. But what's weird about the way your dress is it's not just the shoes. Like every part, I mean, like you're wearing a jacket.

It's all over the place. It's like almost like from the Wham I'm Your Man video. This is a vinyl. It's very practical. It's like a pink and yellow vinyl with the slippers. You said before that you don't like to stand out for a lot. This is how everyone dress. You're like a very tall flower right now.

Well, I mean. Here in America, you are. But you think we're weird because we don't dress like this. Well, look at him. He's got unbuttoned a little bit of his shirt, but there's a T-shirt under it. But you're wearing a multi-zippered suede fringe. What do you have against zippers? No, I just think it's an out.

It's, it's, it's something that catches the eye. I think we're discovering something here, which is context. Okay. It's like the Albert Einstein thing. You cannot have hot without cold because you don't know what it is. No, I didn't. No, that was an ice spree. Oh, okay.

I think so. Wow, he was smart. Or there's the guy who stuck his tongue out in that poster, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. That's his main thing.

Yeah. Love him. Yeah. One of the best. Walk me through how you came to think that he was great from that picture. I mean, you hear about all this shit that he was doing about, like, relative the what? And then like, that's bad. But he's got a sense of humor.

He's like, he's great. I love me. That photo was taken right after he was. he discovered that they cracked the coat on the atomic bomb. Really? Yeah, they just caught it at a moment where, see, out of context, and it looks silly. He was really excited about it?

But he was, like, vomiting at the realization of what would happen. But he looks like a silly, fun guy. God, it looks so happy, and he's right before he vomits. I had no idea. He still seems cool, though, I would say. I think he was probably cool. Wow. Yeah. I got to say, if I lived where you lived, I'd probably pick model, too.

Oh, yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Does everyone, when you go out to dinner, does everyone, like, split the check, or? I mean, this is such a stereotype. But, like, and we don't all go and play with two jump ropes, but yes, we split the, yeah, we split the check. It's just, it makes more sense.

And how many jump ropes do you use? Two. Yeah. Because that's the best number for jump roping. But why would I make you pay the whole check? That's rude. And why would I pay it? I'm not that nice.

Yeah, you're not my boss or anything. Yeah, exactly. We should split it. We should split it. Nobody's breaking the bank here. Right. And does everyone have tons of zippers all over their body? You cannot let go of the zippers.

It's so. You just have so many like it's, you're gleaming. Yeah. You know, you're almost like in this movie I saw starring Adam. Hellraiser. Four. Yeah.

Oh, where he like has a head full of zippers. The pins. Well, he's got, you know, doesn't he have a CD shooting out of his head? You shoot CDs? Yeah, he shoots CDs at people. That sounds nice. And almost like you two shot that album into our phones. That's right.

And we were the only two that were delighted. That sounds nice. I would listen to a CD shooting out of someone's. So they go outside. They decide to share a cigarette. They share one. Okay. And why is that?

Because they're going touch. Oh, got it. Yeah. And because why spend the money on another cigarette? Sure. Yeah. We both have one. We'll share it.

And all of a sudden it starts raining, like pouring rain on it. Right. Right. But this is to be expected because it rains. That's right. And they were expecting it. So they're both in their like vinyl, their like waterproof suits head to toe. They're 100% protected from the rain. That's right. They're very dry. They've expected it. They've been walking around all day in this like crinkly sort of like construction pants, like a hazmat suit, you know.

Sexy. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're getting them. But it's sexy to, you know, when it's raining, it's so romantic, right? The Misan scene? Yes, that's right. So they decide, like, why don't we get out of here and go share, like, a romantic meal, right? Okay. Okay.

I hate to ask, do you think they'll split the check at this meal? Probably, yeah. Yeah, of course they will. So they go to this little, like, there's like. Can I ask why are you lowering your voice? It's the Misan scene. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Okay, you're setting the table here. Or will you say Mizan Srin. Oh, okay. Great. They go to this nice little tap. Italian place, little candles on the tables, they look at the menu. Oh, my gosh. And they realize, like, they don't have what we want to eat here.

This is stupid. Why would we spend our money? Did they not want Italian food? No. What they want is, like, they thought that they might have it, you know. Have what? What they're craving, like, the sexiest food is just like a piece of salmon, like a, like a raw, like a raw smoked salmon. Okay.

on like a hard toast with like a little bit of like dry butter and then like a sexiest food cut in half like hard boiled egg and like a little tiny piece of iceberg lettuce this is kind of turning my stomach and then like a little like just like a fingernail of onion finger finger that seems oh yeah and then the worst of all worlds one of those pieces of lettuce that kind of looks like like the fake bushes in a train set in the electric those like hard pieces of lettuce that are like parsley almost yeah it's like uh like picture and under the sea

scene like a set piece from SpongeBob like one of those like wiry pieces of that on top just that on top so they want that they want to split one of those super specific the eggs hard boiled is that right it's hard boiled and dry butter just like a well like you know when butter it has it's been like in the refrigerator for so long and you take it immediately from the fridge and put it right on and it's like so cold it's just one of the hardest substances it's hard and it's almost dry the flavor is almost hidden at that and this is delicious to you the best you said a fingernail of onion is there something what about that amount yeah it's just why waste the onion you you can get like 80 sandwiches out of an

onion if you cut it this way. Because it seems to me like you're being critical of it, and yet... No. This is delicious to you. I love this. Okay. What was critical? Sometimes I speak harshly, but I'm just being honest.

But did I seem like I didn't like it? No, no. I mean, well, the way that you're talking about... A fingernail of onion, a dry knuckle of butter, barely big enough to cover. Finger nails and knuckles, I mean... The words you're using are... are not appetizing it. Hold on.

The Zalm is like wilted and like like a little bit warm, but it hasn't been cooked. So you think it might be unsafe. But above room temperature for some reason. Yes. And we don't know why. And it's barely enough to cover a little bit of the hard dry toast. Is it the intrigue of whether you'll get sick or not? Is that what makes this appealing?

It's delicious. It's so good. Okay. Little piece of ice cream. I feel like we have this in our minds right now. Get to the sexy part. What happened? So they go to the Albertine really fast

because they've got to get all the ingredients that at the grocery store. They're making it. They're going to make it. Okay. How many pages into the book are we at this? We're at like 200. Yeah, it feels like it.

It feels like a long 200. But the climax is coming. Oh, okay. They get all the... Climax is coming at page 200? No, it's coming in the future. Yeah, the climax isn't here. It's coming.

Great. It's coming. Appropriate for a climax. Sure. So they get the stuff. They get into the checkout line. She realizes, ah, I haven't gotten my paycheck yet for this period. Okay.

And if I can, if you can cover me for half of this, I can pay you back. It's good that a model's on a salary. Oh, yeah. Right? Not just paid per gig. Sure. I like that. But that's everyone, I guess.

And he says, okay, but let's think about this. because he has his budget and he's like, I got paid yesterday. How long did they talk about budgets? This is mind-numbing to me. Why? Why is this important to the sexy part? Because it's like we don't just want to have the sex.

Just get to the sex. Just tell us about the sex. Okay. So we cut to, they're looking for a hotel room. Okay. To eat the food. Yes. Or they got the dry butter.

They have all the ingredients, but they want to put it together in a hotel room? Well, they need to because the egg, is an egg and they have to hard boil it so they need to be somewhere where they can boil the water. Don't they have their own places? They do, but they're at the conference. So they're okay. And they haven't gotten their hotel rooms yet? Not yet because they came straight too. That's right. Why? You're the writer. You can change all of these details. Not now. It's written. So they get to the hotel room. My editor barely read this. Okay. She was like, it's so sexy.

You're the actually, this is the first time I'm hearing anything. Any pushback about this? Yeah. Okay. I don't want to give it to you, but like, please, get it. Okay. So first hotel, too expensive. There's more than one hotel.

Oh, sure. There's three. It's like, it's Den Helder. It's like a beach town. So there's like three whole hotels. So they go to the second one and it's like, ah, it's a little bit like the lighting is very bright. Okay. Not right.

They're turning it down because of the lighting. Sure, yeah. And they're looking to boil an egg. They want to. They want to. it's it's going to be the first time they share a meal they want to be just right and they want bright lighting they want they want just bright enough to see it but also low enough that it's like cozy obscures a little bit sure have you ever ridden uh it doesn't exist anymore but a virgin america flight oh i see oh yeah

no i have anymore right okay uh i wasn't going to say like pegasus well i think that would be more interesting than what you're talking about right now. Like, like, so they get to the third hotel. It's a brightly lit room with a stove top. It's lit just enough. Like a virgin airline flight. That's right. I love those flights.

No stovetop, but it has like a, like a kettle, a plug-in kettle that you can boil and you can cook anything with this. It's amazing. Okay. So they fill a mug with, what page we have? 350. 150 pages just from that. making me skip ahead.

Cut to page 500. What happens on page 500? They decide he has botched the egg. She thinks it is such a waste of her time to be with a man who cannot even cook an egg. She like gives him. What amount of time has passed since they first saw each other? I mean, it's a little bit of time, like 90 minutes or something. And she leaves.

So this book isn't even written in real time. It's less than real time. It's slower. Well, because we have to hear their. thoughts and we have to... Can we just cut to the sex? I mean, there's just... There is no sex.

Never. Not actual sex, but it's the sort of, the feeling that you come away with is like, yes. Like, what is sexier than someone being honest about what they want and what he is, which is a piece of shit because why can't he boil a freaking heck? It seems to me like, Mariska, these books, you know, normally a romance novel is all about two people. They meet each other. they're hot for each other.

They fantasize a lot about having sex with each other, but something's keeping them apart, usually like some sort of relationship or their social status or something. Or the restaurant, the hotel, the Albertine, the budget, the egg. See the lists of all the hotels and the eggs. That's the kind of stuff. None of your audience is interested in.

They're interested in, are these people going to have sex? And when they do have sex, is it hot sex? Is it like, is it everything they've imagined sex to be? Have you ever had sex? No. Why not? Well, it's so much work. Take the egg in the hotel and everything out of it.

You can't. Just go have sex with someone. It's so stupid. Then you're just wasting your time for like what? No, that sex is a waste of time. But it's a waste of time. It's great and I don't want to do it. Technically it is.

I mean, unless you're like, Adam, you have two kids. Like those were the only times that were not a waste of time. That it wasn't a waste of time. That's why those are the only time. But it's a fun waste of time. Look, Mariska, the sound, the sound. This book sounds horrible. I usually don't say that about...

Do you have the title of the book? The Polder model. Oh, that's right. Yes. They have to work together. They all work together, but nothing ends up happening. And is it successful, anyone buying these? Huge success, yeah.

Does everyone just automatically get a copy or... What do you think it is, just like communism or something? I don't know. So everything is like this YouTube album to you, Adam? I guess that's the only way... Wait, is you two just giving away their album? Is that true? Is that true?

A somewhat long time like 10 years ago. All right, look, we're running out of time. We just have time for one final feature on the show. And that is a little something called plugs. Plugs. Jizz. Oh, gosh. That was a real fake out.

That got me good. Well, that's an inexpensive little tune. That was Jake Jackhead with lovely plugs. Thank you so much for Jake Jackhead. All right, what are we plugging? Adam, what is a guy like you have to plug? Just severance on Friday, the final episode of the season coming out. And don't just watch that one, although you could, I guess.

There are eight previous episodes. And do you think that's confusing? Was that concerned with production? It could be confusing depending on how it's explained. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like the way I'm explaining it is potentially confusing. Do the characters kind of make this clear, though, that it's the ninth episode of nine? Every episode, every character's first line is, okay, it's episode five.

This is what needs to happen. Good, okay. That sounds great. Severance on it, and people have to have an Apple TV plus subscription. On Apple TV Plus, and plus you can get a subscription quite easily. Yeah. And then you can also, like, you get video games and working out and stuff like that. There's all kinds of stuff on there with that subscription.

Anyone ever play a video game and work out while watching your show? That would be the trifectus. Happens all the time. Yeah, amazing. All right. And Thomas, what do you want to plug? I'm going to plug a podcast I'm a fan of called Screw It. We're just going to talk about comics.

Two brothers, Will and Kevin Hines talk about comic books. I've really gotten into it. And, uh... What do you like? I mean, what is a guy like you? I like how niche and alienating they are. They really don't let new people in. There's almost no explanation of the backstory of what they're talking about.

They assume you've read what they're talking about and already know about it, and then they reaffirm what you know, and I'm really into it. They don't take controversial stances on these. They pretty much just recap. They tow the party line, and they pretty much express what the consensus is on the things they talk about. And if you want to hear that parroted back, they're good at it. They're going over the Daredevil comic book series, Born again right now, which is written by Frank Miller and drawn by Dave Mazachelli in the mid-80s.

It was a milestone great superhero story. That's only mildly problematic. So, you know, check out that podcast. That's my recommendation. And Mariska, what do you want to plug here? It's a short film improvised by Susie Barrett and Rebecca Drysdale. Short, like five minutes. Okay.

Easy. So this is quibby. It's quibby length. Where do people see this and what is it called? It's called gum. and they can see it at what is gum.com. What is gum.com? That's right.

With Rebecca Drysdale, a great talent. That's right. And Susie Barrett and nobody turd. Wow. And they work together. They balance each other out. Okay. Interesting.

Well, I want to plug, you know, head over to CBBWorld.com. I was going to plug this show called You Can't Handle the Sloots. Yes, I am a fan of that too. Oh, really? I should have plugged that. We just had a very funny new episode of that a couple weeks ago And we just had another this book, Changed My Life episode with Lily Sullivan, Randy Snutt's episodes. We got some good stuff in April.

We just, Sean Diston and I, we just reviewed the 400 blows. Really? On our show, Scott hasn't seen. And people are really responding to that. So head over to CBBWorld.com. And if you subscribe for a year, you get two months free. All right, let's close up the old plug bag.

Salo. Yes. Take one hand, put it up. Take the other, put it down. You're going to make a box. It's time to start to close it. But don't close it too much. sure you open up the plug bag.

We're opening up that plug bag. And when you open up that plug back, you open up your heart for the rest of the world. I'm talking, open up the plug bag. I open up the plug back. Open up the plug back as hard as you can. Then you open up your heart. Open up and a blah.

Oh, man, hearing Dr. Sweet chat, the small talker robot say, oh, no. It delights me to no end. That was Dr. Sweet cha-cha with Oye Como plug. Guys, I want to thank you so much, Adam. Always great hanging out with you. Are we, are we, I mean, I know you have two TV shows now. You don't have a lot of time. We ever going to do another podcast together?

I think we should. Yeah. I think we should. Yeah. What about? I'm drawn a blank. Just about this. About, about comedy bang bang, where we recap comedy bang bang? Yeah, every episode. Yeah. That's a great idea. This is a great idea. Yeah. I'm committing fully right now. Okay, to all 751 episodes. That's exactly right. Okay, fantastic. And Thomas, so great to meet you. Thanks so much for having me on. I love trying to reach an audience for my wares. Yeah, although even though you don't have any. I don't know how to get them right now, but at some, you know, I've piqued the interest and I hope that people will search later. forward to it. Thank you, Adam. And then Mariska, bad book,

bad writer. Thank you. You're really bad. Thank you. Thanks for coming by, though. Thank you. It was a bad time, and I think that you have a lot

to learn about hosting. Okay. All right. We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye.