Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - CBB PRESENTS: The Music Man Watchalong (Scott Aukerman, Paul F. Tompkins)

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

In order to settle old scores, Scott Aukerman, the host of Comedy Bang! Bang!, is joined by guests Bing Lujo and Dr. Bill Blondie to watch the 1962 film “The Music Man.” But will this put their ar...gument to rest, or just open up new wounds? Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, Scott Aukerman here, host of Comedy Bang Bang. And we do not have a regular episode for you this week. Let me explain. Now, if you've been living under a rock, and I sincerely hope you have not, because they're very uncomfortable, the fires in Los Angeles hit approximately almost two weeks ago now. We had an episode that we were recording the morning things got really bad and everyone had to cancel. And since then, I had to evacuate for about a week and a lot of the regular guests on the show had to evacuate for about a week.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And some people still haven't come back. And I know of at least five previous guests of the show whose houses were destroyed in the fire. So things have been a little dicey here in Los Angeles. We are not back up to regular speed yet. So what we decided to do, instead of just putting nothing out, we decided, why don't we put out something special that is only for subscribers at CBB World
Starting point is 00:01:24 out to everyone else. So, uh, before the fires happened, uh, we, uh, over at Brett's house, which was dangerously close to, uh, being burned to the ground, by the way, uh, everything around him was, um, we, uh, Paul F. Tompkins and I gathered, uh, over over there, you can say two people gathered, and we recorded a watch-along podcast for the movie, The Music Man. Now, if you've been listening to the show
Starting point is 00:01:54 over the past few months, you know that Paul and I have had some disagreement over the plot of The Music Man that has spanned many episodes where we've discussed it. We talked about it with Christian Brun and Tatiana Maslany, and then this continued on the tour and also into the best ofs. We decided to settle the issue for good and we sat down and watched The Music Man. This is me and Paul is playing two characters. He's playing Bing Lujo and Dr. Bill Blondie, both of whom I had this argument with. And so we watched The Music Man. If
Starting point is 00:02:41 you've never heard a Watch Along podcast, we tell you when to start the movie. We give you a countdown. The only slight thing you have to look out for in this version is we're going to take a couple of ad breaks. So when you hear the comedy bang bang theme, pause. And then when you hear it again, after the ads, just unpause and it should be still synced up for you. And this is pretty long. I think it's two hours and 40 minutes long because it's a long ass movie, but we had a lot of fun doing it. And, you know, we really thought the, the climactic conclusion of this should be available for all Comedy Bang Bang listeners. So that's at least a silver lining to all of this. We should be back next week with a new episode.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I appreciate your patience in all of this. Everyone is safe here, but again, I do know several guests whose belongings and houses are not safe, but we're glad that they're personally safe. We've been very lucky here in my house as well, but thank you to everyone who's reached out, wondering how we're doing.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Everyone's fine here. So don't think about any of that. You have a fun watch along podcast to listen to. Here you go. This is the CBB Presents that we put out, the Watchalong podcast for The Music Man. Hey everyone, this is Scott Ackerman, host of Comedy Bang Bang, and welcome to a very special episode of CBB Presents. What are you listening to?
Starting point is 00:04:53 What am I saying? These are all the questions that I think every single time I ever do an episode. But in this particular instance, I know what both of these things are. And by the way, Brett, thank you so much for doing whatever that was. It's gone from incredibly echoey to not echoey in the headphones. Really good. And who is that? You may ask.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Well, first of all, what is this? This is our watch along podcast for a very special movie, which, which we'll get into in a second. These gentlemen here to my right are with me. We're going to watch a movie and talk during it and then you can watch, I guess alongside us. Honey, you sound like you're from outer space. You sound like you, you sound like an alien from outer space. You sound like you sound like an alien. Re-plop, re-plop? Yeah, that's what you sound like an alien. This is a watch along.
Starting point is 00:05:48 We're gonna watch the movie together with the audience. With the audience. Yeah. Although the audience is not here with us currently. No? Nobody? Nobody, it's just you and me. Why is your room so dark?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Well, you know, that's how I like to watch a movie, unfortunately. Okay. You don't get scared? Well, you know, that's how I like to watch a movie, unfortunately. Okay. You don't get scared? Well, usually the lights from the movie illuminates the room a little bit, so. But still, it's dark. It is dark, but, and unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:06:15 we're not watching this in a theater where the exits are illuminated either. So if there were to be a fire. That's if I watch a horror picture. What I do is I look at the exit signs and I say, in, I'm in real life. I'm not in the yes. And at least I can leave. That's right. If it gets too scared and I know how yeah, I know how would we have how would you? What are the steps involved steps are first? I would, I would go towards that sign. Yeah, delighted exit sign. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:43 instead of backing up away from it. Because you know, they can't put that over a door that's not an exit. That's right, yeah. Now a lot of times, a lot of- It's actual law? There are some theaters that do a fake one for fun. That's you think, that's escape rooms, honey.
Starting point is 00:06:59 That's escape rooms. Is that, do they have to have exit signs in escape room? I've never been in an escape room. In an escape room, you can have fake exit signs, but you do have to have a door box escape that is, that does lead you to outside. Okay. This is very confusing because I would go through the exit ones. In any case, we're doing a watch along podcast for a movie and let me introduce my guests here.
Starting point is 00:07:23 We have two gentlemen that I've had discussions with regarding this movie. Oh boy, that's true. We have, first of all, what is your biography, sir? Mr. L? You don't remember my name. You don't remember what I do. I know your name, I just haven't introduced you yet.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Okay. I am a mall shop owner. You're the mall shop owner. And proprietor. That's right, you own it owner and proprietor. That's right. You own it. You propriet it. Yeah. I'm the, I'm propriety every day at the mall shop. Please welcome Bing Lu Joe.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Hi everybody. What a pleasure to be here. Watch this wonderful film with you. It's so wonderful to have you here. We also have, this gentleman has inspected me every which way. Oh, that's true. He's checked out every orifice of my body. Uh-huh. And, uh- Sometimes twice, like Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Well, he checks a list twice. I don't think he's checking orifices of the little boys and girls. It was more the twice part. Okay. I don't think you, I think people got it. I don't think you needed to introduce orifices of little boys or girls.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I just wanted to make sure the audience knew that we weren't talking about that. But this is my doctor, Dr. Bill Blondie. Scotty, how you doing? I'm doing great. Need a bump? Sure. Are you just headbutting me now?
Starting point is 00:08:37 What is going on? I don't know. Let me cut some gorilla fingers on this table. Gorilla fingers? I don't know that I've heard gorilla fingers before. You've never heard gorilla fingers? Yeah, I love it. It's a medical term.
Starting point is 00:08:48 We're watching a movie, Dr. Bill and Bing, called The Music Man. That's right. What year is this from? Who could say? I wanna say 1956. I feel like it's the 60s. I feel like it's what is that song? That is Quincy Jones's song that I
Starting point is 00:09:27 feel like is prominently featured in the Austin Powers. Oh no. Do you mean one mint julep? I don't know. Why stop at one by the way? Oh no, that's not one mint julep. One mint julep is better. But no, this is. Okay. These films, these songs will not be featured in this film. This film is from 1962. Wow. The swing in sixties themselves. The Beatles. I think everybody in this movie is all assing.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this movie is all assing. I think everybody in this film. This film is from 1962. Wow. The swinging sixties themselves. The everybody's movies on acid. The Beatles were just starting to record. They were in the basement at Hamburg. Yeah. Wearing a toilet seat around his neck. That's right. John Lennon. But I bet that got big laughs.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Just walked out on stage. We were like a bunch of German people sitting in a basement sweating just ten years after the war. This guy comes out with a toilet seat around his neck like that's pretty good. This is good. This is light in the mood here in Germany. Okay, no, the war was, the war was 15 years earlier. Right. Because it ended in what 47 somewhere around there. Yeah. 47. But we're going to watch the music man from 1962,
Starting point is 00:10:59 Robert Preston and Shirley Jones, of course, star in this film. They must have been nominated for prizes. I bet it won the Academy Award for best picture. Really? I don't know, I'm just throwing it out there. But, I'm seeing best music. Is that something?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Original score. Did it win that? Or are you just bringing that up to my attention? All right, so it won. So that means it must have written a song for. No, one for the score. Oh. So it's not an original song.
Starting point is 00:11:32 The play doesn't have a score, really. A musical. Was this just a play and then they added music for this film? It was a boring play. All right, how does this work? We are going to all start this movie at the same time. Yeah, we'll count down three, two, one, play. Three, two, one, play.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Now what you have to do is you have to- To get it synced up. Get it synced up. You're gonna start it on, basically the first frame is just a big blue nothing. This is- Blue nothing. If you're watching it on iTunes, this is two seconds in. Suddenly you see a big blue nothing. That's where we're starting.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It's like a blue void. If you go, I mean, if you go all the way to zero, zero, zero, zero, zero is black. This is black. Yeah, but we're starting on the first frame. This is sort of like the first frame of David Lynch's blue velvet. And here's another thing you can do is you can sort of narrate the opening credits so people can know if they're synced up or not. Right. Okay. And then if you're not synced up, I don't know how to get this back on track for you. I think it's a lost cause. I would just stop the podcast. But if you are synced
Starting point is 00:12:36 up, this is going to be a lot of fun. And the reason we're doing this is we'll get into it. I think as we go along, right? Yeah. Let's get synced up like a women's prison. All right. We're going to do the big, we're going to do the big countdown. The ball dropping in time square. All right. Here we go. Should we do a countdown to the countdown? Just so people know that three, two, one to the countdown.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Three, two, one, 10, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one play. All right. Blue. It's still blue. Oh, I hear a whistle. Okay, so Warner Brothers Warner animated soul Warner are involved. How long is the little animated soul band? Yeah, I don't remember this part of it at all. How long has it been since you watched this? It's been a while. It's been probably 20 years for me, but I would watch this regularly when I was growing up. I've probably seen it a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Meredith Wilson, by the way, wrote this. And where did he get him? The Music Man. There it is. You see these, this is of course the famous song 76 Trombones. Is this whole thing claymation? Is it claymation or is it... Sorry, Robert Preston. I don't think clay is involved. I think it's just mation.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I don't know other terms. Shirley Jones, of course, plays the titular music man, buddy Hackett. Now, if you don't know who buddy Hackett is, you'll never know. Um, and Paul Ford, of course, the Buffalo Bills, the football team, the AFC, this is when they were still in the AFC. I think OG Simpson is in this. It's a fun cameo, an entire football team. Filmed in Technorama, of course, which we still use to this very day. I love Technorama.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And the director of photography is Robert Burks. He's in the ASC. Yeah, what does ASC stand for? Have we ever figured that out? It's secret. It's a secret society. Yeah. It's like skull and bones. We all have them.
Starting point is 00:14:48 We do. Speaking as a doctor. Hey, what about flesh? What about it? Blood, piss, cum. Love it all, love it all. Love it all. Look, I'm a choreographer by Una White.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Look, I love everything to do with the human body. Sound, M.A. Merrick, Dolph Thomas. Seth the Creator, George James Hopkins. Vocal arrangements, Charles Henderson. Boy, these are just going by too quick for us to say. But Ray Heindorf. Heindorf. Heindorf.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Get in here, Heindorf. Based on Meredith Wilson's The Music Man, how considerate of them to base this on something. What a weird string of credits. I couldn't follow that one. Screenplay by Mary in Hargrove. She was just excited because she's like, oh, I'm writing my own name so much.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I think that sounds fake. Like a fake name. Mary, like a pen name. Yeah, interesting. Maybe it was Stephen Soderbergh. Oh, was he alive? Produced and directed by some guy. I didn't turn back in time to see it.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Okay, so now we're seeing. Oh, this guy. This guy. Now he's a train conductor from everything I've gathered. This guy has a big suitcase. Rude. And they're hurrying to get on this train. That guy did not try to get on.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It was like he arrived a little too early and they shut hurrying to get on this train. That guy did not try to get on. It was like he arrived a little too early and they shut the door and he was like, oh, better slow down. He's a coward. Okay, so this is a train car, obviously, and there's a bunch of people gambling, so you know they're up to no good. These are traveling salesmen. An Anvil salesman.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Now this is a fun bit of business as I recall. An Anvil salesman he has one anvil and it's in his case and anytime he puts it down there's a big clanging sound. That's very funny. It is funny. This is the first song. It's the first rap song. This predated I believe believe, rapper's delight, did it not? Absolutely. The fancy goods for the soft goods. People don't say that that way to my cache. Cache. Pickles in the flypaper. Why?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Why is he asking? What do you talk? Do you think? Have you ever been able to ascertain that was an expression back then? What do you talk when instead of, cause it was rude to say what do you say? What do you talk? What do you talk? What do you talk by the way is before the word saying was invented. Oh, what are you saying is how it became. I have, I have a theory and we're gonna hear a lot of old slang terms.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I got some theories too. My theory is that slang is all popularized by time travelers who already know the slang. Cause it's too hard to come up with slang terms and have them be popular. So time travelers like go back in time with the slang that already is popular and then they start it. You talking about the bootstrap theory? Of
Starting point is 00:17:48 course. Do you know what that is? I don't. I don't know why you glanced at your watch by the way in the middle of asking me that. Timing your answer. The bootstrap theory is the idea of somebody traveling backward at time and inventing the bootstrap that we've always had the bootstrap, but then we didn't have it until somebody I can't remember. And what is a bootstrap? Is that the thing you get your boots on with or the thing you hit people with that is on a boot?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Like you spank naughty little boys and girls with? What does it have to do with a boot. Like you spank naughty little boys and girls with. With how, what does it have to do with a boot? Well, it's like a big strap that like hangs off your boot. Hangs off the boot. Which is it? I want you to guess that I'll tell you if you're right. I have no idea. Um, these guys are all traveling salespeople and they work this route. They are men. They all happen to be men.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They happen to be men, but they were hired on merit. That's right. All these white men were hired on merit. These are all traveling salespeople and they, it must be fun to choreograph this. Like you're all gonna fall when I count to three. And then they all do. This is exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Uh-oh, cigarettes are illegal. Can you imagine cigarettes being illegal anywhere? In bars? That's what I can imagine. Um, so they're talking about this traveling salesperson who's a con man, Tarn feathers, Tarn feather, of course, is a form of execution without a jury. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:48 That's how they would get around it. What if we just do this ourselves? Because it's a lot of trouble to go through. Now this guy's really pissed. He's furious. Obviously. really pissed. He's furious. Obviously he's saying that this guy, Harold Hill, doesn't know anything about music. This is not really how you do a watch. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:13 well I figure people aren't really watching the movie. They're just listening to us. So we need to explain it a little bit. What I mean, Dewey. Well, I mean, in order for us to settle this argument, we need to encapsulate what the, what they're talking about. Well, maybe he's talking about it a little. Yeah. Oh, he's talking about neck bowed Hawkeyes. OK.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Oh, this is the guy they were talking about. You got him. And they're all like, what the hell? Oh, this is the guy they were talking about. And they're all like, what the hell? So long, idiots. Meanwhile, none of them ever think to get off the train. This guy's going to throw his hat down on the ground. Those hats are very fragile. You shouldn't throw them on the ground. You should at the very least, like wave it a little bit at him.
Starting point is 00:21:03 This is a great song about how Iowa hates people. Now here's a dog in a movie, which I think this is the first time there's ever been a dog. That's a horse. Oh, there's a dog there. Oh wait, that's a horse. Okay, got it. I've never seen one of those before. Actually, I saw two on the way here. I didn't know what they were. Why did you? Oh, there you go. Yeah. Why did you? Oh,
Starting point is 00:21:30 now this guy is like massaging his lettuce for some reason. It's like pretending to like the dog back there. This film is dog crazy. Okay, so this is a pool table which were tables that where people used to swim. Are you kidding right now? Look, don't don't confuse the pool table is very important to the story. Now this is like you fucking got him. Okay. Where do I find a bad hotel then?
Starting point is 00:22:09 If you're going to be such a fucking asshole about this, by the way, why is try the Palmer house in Chicago still up on the screen? It's like everyone is saying this to him. Okay. Now this is a classic undertaker guy. Yeah. He just stands out in front waiting for people to die waiting for like people to bring out pistols at high noon or maybe they, he waits for them to bring in corpses and he gets the door for them because it's a, you know, it's a handful. If I were an undertaker, I wouldn't dress up every day
Starting point is 00:22:41 and just stand there. I would wait until I hear someone's dead. Then I would put on the suit. I'd just sit around my underwear all day. I think it's like, if you do it, then it's like it hastens the process. Right, got it. Shoulder attitude. Now this woman famously couldn't sing at all. Did that match her mouth?
Starting point is 00:23:06 She couldn't even speak English. Okay, is this our issue? This is a friend of the director, I guess. Is it our issue that the voices are not syncing with the sound? I think this is the movie. Are you sure this seems like a big thing to be? Now this guy's kind of, I think once they actually start talking, yeah, see, we're sync back up.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I think this is the movie. Like it was so hard to do back then. They didn't know how to do it. What do I scab out of the red July? By God, stubborn. The whole town came out to yell at this guy. I like to think that the town was already there and that yelling at them was just kind of a byproduct of their, the constitutionals they were already taking.
Starting point is 00:24:09 What are you talking about? I don't know. Just trying to fill time. Two and a half hours. Oh boy. All right, so these guys. These guys. They got sued for copyright infringement by the painter.
Starting point is 00:24:27 That's right, Grant Wood. And they had to leave the business, apparently. The famous case. Yeah, it was just those two actors. Yep. This scene took about a month to choreograph. They had to stop down production to choreograph that. Because of the lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. So the choreography is basically everybody get a big crowd. Okay. Now a livery stable, we don't have these much anymore, but this is a place that horse. It's like a hotel for horses and it smells like liver, which is why they're called liver stable and it always did, which is why it's stable. Yeah. Yeah. And so now I know the question on everyone's mind is like, does Harold Hill have friends? He's he can't possibly have friends. Can he?
Starting point is 00:25:24 No, no, no, no. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Marcellus. Marcellus Vosburn?
Starting point is 00:25:37 That's a, now, is that a bit of business with the horse that they've trained the horse to do, do you think? Or is that Buddy Hacker just knowing his comedic persona so well? It seemed like Buddy was just reacting in the moment. Yeah. The horse like, you touched my tail. So now Buddy Hackett, I don't recall, Buddy Hackett used to be a con person too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Con man, I'll just say con man. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. So he moved here. Yeah, they used to run games together. They were in gangs? They used to run games together. Oh, and they were in the Bloods and the Cribs.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Simultaneously. They were both? Wow. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Both? Wow. So this guy basically gives it all up for Ethel Toffenmayer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 For love. For love. That's nice. But you're skeptical because of the name? I mean, I think when a writer chooses a name, it's for a purpose. And the name Ethel Toffenmayer. What do you think about the pest house? When a writer chooses a name, it's for a purpose. And the name Ethel Toffenmayer. What do you think about the pest house?
Starting point is 00:26:50 They don't have pest houses as much anymore. Yeah, they don't. Where basically people would go to bother people? No, it's sick people they put there. It's short for pestilence. Oh, OK, yeah. I wouldn't want to be right across the street from the pest house then. you want to be in it.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Those are my two choices. Yep. What's it going to be? Did he got it? You gotta be honest. There you go. That's right. You will. All right. Now this lady, that's the mayor's wife. She was in the running to be, I love Lucy for a bit because of her hair. For a bit. Yeah. They were replacing Lucio Ball in the third season. I remember. Wow. Oh, they were replacing Lucio Ball. What happened? Lucio Ball. She had too many abortions.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And how many to worry. There's a definite answer, by the way, if you want to know. I'd like to know. Okay, now this is Shirley Jones, who people would know from The Partridge Family, which was a 60s television show. Or maybe from Elmer Gantry. That's a good point. 60s television show regarding a family band that would travel, would they travel around the country or were they stationary? I've never seen an episode of The Partridge Family. I mean, they had a big bus,
Starting point is 00:28:09 but they did seem to mostly stay in the same place. Yeah, so they weren't like the Incredible Hulk where they would go around town to town solving problems. Well, I mean, they would turn into monsters, but they didn't solve crimes. They were self-involved monsters. Yeah, if they all got angry at the exact same time, they would turn into meagre monsters. So she's a woman who is the caretaker of these books in a way. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:48 this is the song, pick a little talk a little, which will come into play a little later. So now this is very important. The billiard parlor. That's right. The please billiard parlor. And he's trying to figure out an angle. How can I fleece these people? I think he already has his, he's got his ankle, but he's like, figure out an angle. How can I fleece these people? I think he already has his angle. Well, he's got his angle, but he's like, how do I get into it? What's my in?
Starting point is 00:29:09 How do I get them all fucking nuts? Yeah. Now is this how- It's a beautiful hat band. I'm buddy. Look at that, that's nice. Is this how a con man would dress? Or is this more ostentatious than everyone else's, I guess my question is. Is this how a con man would dress?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Is this more ostentatious than everyone else's, I guess my question is. Is this a showbiz outfit? Like is he sort of like a dandy? Yeah, is he like, oh, I dress this way because these are my showbiz clothes. Or is this just like how everyone would dress? Back in that era? Yeah, and by the way, when is this set?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Is this the future or? Do you think it's the future? It could be the future star star wars. You think it's a future. It ends up being a long time ago. Yeah, but they tell you that to begin. Should this have had a star wars type crawl? Yeah, every movie should it would be helpful. I'm not gonna lie. What's he eating by the way? I think he's eating like sunflower seeds or something. Sunflower seeds. Maybe pistachios? Oh, maybe pistachios.
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's a fun word for you to say. Pistachio. So now the sink is out of sync again, but it must be very hard for Robert Preston to like, he basically just talks things. Does he ever even sing a note? He, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:30:42 I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I spend with a Q in my hand, a golden. Helping go to the horses and a cool head and a keen eye. Just give a jacket eye and a leaf to yourself from a three-round billion shot. But just as I say it takes judgment, brains and maturity to score at any ball-clack game. I say that any boob can take and shove a ball in a pocket. And I call that slug.
Starting point is 00:31:00 The first big step on the road to the depths of the day. I say, first, but it'll just little wine from a teaspoon, then beer from a bottle. And the next thing you know, your son is playing for money in a pinchback suit. And listen to some big out of town Jasper here tell about horse race gambling. Not a wholesome trotting race though,
Starting point is 00:31:17 but a race where there's a dog right on the horse. Like to see some stuck up jockey boy sitting on a damn patch, making blood boil? Well, I should say. Now, friends, let me tell you what I mean. You got one, two, three, four, five, six, pockets on the table,
Starting point is 00:31:31 pockets that mark the difference between a gentleman and a mom with a capital B that rhymes with P, that stands for pool. And all week long, you've ever seen a youth be frittering away, saying your young man be frittering. Frittering away that new time, simple time, short time.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Two, get the ball in the pocket, never mind getting daddy lines pulled at the screen door batch of the beefsteak pounded. Never mind pumping anyone until your parents are caught with a sister and empty on a Saturday night, that's trouble. Yes, we got lots and lots of trouble. I'm thinking of the kids in the Nicken Park, sure do, young one, speaking of the pool,
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'll window out the school. You got trouble, folks. Right here in River City. Trouble with a capital T that rhymes with P that stands for pool. No, I know all you folks are the right kind of parents. I'm gonna be perfectly frank. Would you like to know what kind of conversation goes on
Starting point is 00:32:16 while they're loafing around that hall? They're trying out Bebo, trying out Cubans, trying out tannamains like cigarette fiends, and bragging all about how they gotta cover up a telltale breath when said, said, one fine night, they leave the ball headed for the dance at the armory. Limited men and scarlet women and ragtime, shameless music. Gotta grab your son, your daughter with the arms of a jungle
Starting point is 00:32:37 animalistic masteria. Friends, the out of brain is the devil's playground trouble. Right here in River City. With a capital C that rhymes with P that stands for pool. We've surely got trouble. Right here in River City. Gotta figure out a way to keep the young ones moral after school.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Mothers of River City, heed the warning before it's too late. Watch for the telltale side of corruption. The moment your son leaves the house, does he re-buckle his knickerbockers below the knee? Is there a niggie staying on his next finger? An iron novel hidden in a corn crib? Is he starring in memorized jokes from Captain Billy's whiz-bang?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Are certain words creeping into his conversation. Words like swell. Aha, and so's your old man. Hello my friends, you got trouble. Right here in River City. With a capital T that rhymes with P, that stands for pool. We've surely got trouble. Right here in River City.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Remember the main Plymouth Rock and the Golden Rule. Oh, we got trouble. We're in terrible, terrible trouble. That game with the 15 number balls is devil's tool. Oh yes, we got trouble, trouble, trouble. We got trouble. Big, big, we got big, big trouble. With a T. With a T.
Starting point is 00:34:05 With a little T. That rhymes with P. That rhymes with P. That stands for pool. That stands for pool. Because I passed this way by one. That's so well done. I love the duet version of that song, by the way.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It was fun to do. Between the two of you. It was fun to do. Did you guys rehearse that or? No, we're just both big fans. Wow. They're just both big fans. Wow. They're just singing at him.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Now, Buddy Hackett is playing an invisible piano here, which is a big plot point. That's the signal for the music teacher. Not to... No. You know what? I never put it together. There's one invisible piano in the town.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Well, there's two because Harold Hill also plays invisible piano. Yes, but he brought it there. So he brought one and there was already one. And there was already one, yeah, exactly. So now the laws of the town are there can only be one invisible piano because there would be too many people tripping over things.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That's right, yeah, large cigarettes and invisible piano is all but one. So this is a big plot point that's going to come up a little later, but so now she's kind of a old maid character, sort of akin to a, to Donna Reed. Cause she had glasses on before. Now this piano is visible to the eye, which is how pianos normally are. This lady is named Pert Kelton and she is the second most famous Pert, the first being
Starting point is 00:35:40 the shampoo. And do you think any of these people are still alive? Good question. Maybe that little girl, she could be. Cause Zuzu from It's Wonderful Life is still alive. She's still with us. You keep tabs on her? Yeah, I have a private investor. Every year, it's not just that you look it up,
Starting point is 00:36:02 you have somebody following her. This is her mother. Yeah. What is she so interested in? The suitcase aspect of this? She wants her daughter to get laid. Suitcase means she has clothes. But when you get laid, you take them all off.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It doesn't make sense. She's got a place to put them. This movie doesn't make sense. She's got a place to put them. This movie doesn't make sense. Oh, Amaryllis. Now someone says Amaryllis later, right? No spoilers. But somebody does say Amaryllis later. So she's supposed to be probably first generation immigrant from Ireland, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And meanwhile, Shirley Jones is a lot like second generation where she's doesn't have the accent. Well, she, she wouldn't be first generation implies the first generation to be born in the country. Oh, okay. So she's, she's surely is. So she would be first generation implies the first generation to be born in the country. Oh, okay. So she's surely is first generation. Yeah. And then Amaryllis, who knows what her story is. She's from parts unknown.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It's a very mysterious character, Amaryllis. Nobody ever says where she's from. No. And does at the end, she floats up into space, doesn't she? But yeah. Yeah. Like there's a big light that comes down And does at the end she floats up into space, doesn't she? But yeah. Like there's a big light that comes down and then the hammer really says, now I must return to my people. I don't know if it's on this version.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. If you're not going to make it to the end, I hope you're watching the right version. Yeah. It's the extended cut, right? Yeah. It's just that this was the first movie to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Studio hated it. They really had a problem syncing the lips to the lyrics back then. I mean, can this really have been how people saw it in the theater? I think so. I think, well, back in the theaters, it was at a different frame rate and with flickering lights and stuff,
Starting point is 00:38:18 so no one noticed any of this shit. Plus people were just generally dumb. Everyone was smoking. There's so much haze and cigarette smoke, nobody could see. No one cared about any of this kind of stuff. They were just like, oh, hey, is that thing? Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:38:33 There he is, the star of Eat My Dust. Brian, look at another dog. Winthrop is this guy's name. Now he is more commonly known these days. He's more. No, different guy with more. But he met more. You have to agree about that. I do agree. You met more. If you've never seen Ron Howard meet more. That's supposed to be an item. Like she's got a little crush on him, but he looks like a baby. She looks like she's 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:39:09 He looks like he's four. He, he looks. We've got a little lisp. You wouldn't make fun of the way people talk. I shouldn't? Nobody should. No one should. Oh, so this is- I guess I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Who's the sister of who? Oh wait, no, Ron Howard is the sister of Shirley Jones. Right. So he must have been a surprise. By the way, I think the backstory to this is Shirley Jones had, was, is actually the mother of Winthrop, but lies to him to say, I'm not your mother. I'm your sister. Yeah. Jack Nicholson would lie to everyone.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah. He'd say, my mother's my sister. Mm-hmm. He'd say, we got to put that in a movie. It's so hilarious. This prank I'm playing. Jack, do you mind if we use that for a movie? This is the first hug in cinema history. First female to female hug.
Starting point is 00:40:22 FF? F2F. First female to female hug. FF? F2F. I don't give a shit what you do. That's a great question. This has never come up in my relationships. Really? You better check with your girlfriend, ask her if she ever said goodnight to her,
Starting point is 00:40:50 the evening star. What is the evening star? I think it's like Jupiter. Oh, is it Jupiter, really? I don't fucking know. You ever been to Jupiter? Are you asking both of us? I've never been to Jupiter.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Nor me. Okay. I mean, there's so much music in this film. Look, even then you couldn't take a good picture of the moon. So much music in this film. She should be considered the music woman almost. Emeril's? Either of them.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Oh, that's a lovely song. When do they, do you think they perfected sinking technology? For Dunkirk, maybe? Was it Boat Sink? That's the most famous boat sinking movie you could think of. So at this point we haven't seen anything or we've talked over it regarding our arguments. Is that right? My fear is that we did talk over some of what would have explained it. Okay. But so what are just for the listener, our general difference of opinion difference of opinion is that I'm of the opinion that Harold Hill, the con man in question, takes money for the digital music man exactly takes money from these
Starting point is 00:42:34 rubes for not only his time and his lessons, but also lessons, but also, also for uniforms and instruments, which he then purchases and they arrive on the Wells Fargo wagon and he, Adam Markup, he steals money from them, even on that score, but he does, the instruments do arrive in order to solidify the fact that he is an actual music man. See, now I remember the argument as, could people figure out how to order things from a catalog? I say yes.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I don't know that we'll ever be able to figure out that just from watching this movie. Yes, and I was thinking. And I was thinking this as well, from what I understand, we're both thinking the same thing. Yes, that they, he doesn't do anything except. Teach. Yeah, to fake teach.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And he gets them to get all the shit. Yeah. Right. I think the argument- I shouldn't say shit. It's okay Bing. It's podcasting. The FCC is not involved here. You can fuck a curse if you want.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I believe the argument started on my end as is it illegal if something comes true? Now that we never had a disagreement about. Let's talk about it. Yeah, because this was my original point is he ends up teaching them music. Yeah, they get everything that he promised. Yes, so should it be illegal?
Starting point is 00:44:25 What he was doing? Look, he's like, look at these fucking people. It is fun to curse. If this happened, if you were to come- That reminds me of Bioshock Infinite. Are you a gamer? Yeah, I like to game. Dr. Blondie?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah, yeah. If you came across this in your life, this would be the most insane thing you'd ever witnessed. Yeah, I'd be running right out of there. But this just seems like Tuesday to me. Yeah, they do this all the time. The simpler time. But I guess back then there weren't video games,
Starting point is 00:45:02 Dr. Blondie, and there wasn't anything to do. There was nothing to do. So they could have just sat there staring at the wall all day, or they could do stuff like this. This is where they developed the idea of looking at clouds and trying to figure out shapes. Right. And stars going like, oh, that's a hunter. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:45:21 No, it's not. Have you ever tried to figure out? They did a bad job with those, I gotta say. Like maybe the Big Dipper, you can kinda go like, alright, I see how that could be. That's the one. Yeah. That is the one.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I never saw like a guy fighting a bear up there or whatever. Yeah, come on. Come on. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Isn't this a recurring thing? He goes, he starts going into Forest Gourmet. He constantly tries to do the Gettysburg Address.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Wasn't that a Curb Your Enthusiasm block point? Was Larry David trying to memorize the Gettysburg Address? I don't know. Why would he be doing that? Because he was posted above the urinal at his golf club or something. In any case. That's three quarters of the Buffalo Bills that are sitting on the stage.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah. This guy has a Larry David sort of thing. This guy here? Yeah. He's bald. Ding. He's still got some comb-over strands. I thought you were saying ding like I got it right. Ding! Oh, there's Amaryllis. Yeah. Oh. This is Lauren Boebert's daughter, apparently. This is Oh, there's Amaryllis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Oh. This is Lauren Bobert's daughter, apparently. This is, what? This is as political as I get, folks. This doesn't hold up super great. I mean, it is the kind of thing they would have done. People are too sensitive. All I'm looking for is truth in cinema.
Starting point is 00:47:00 This is a tribute. People shouldn't be mad. Gee, look at that gigantic cartoon firecracker. I bet it was delivered as an actual like real size firecracker and the director was like, that's not going to read. Got to be bigger. Now, if you actually were, everyone saw it. If you actually were to set a firecracker off underneath someone, everyone saw it.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Well, you're not me. So I'm going to leave. It's easy to get out of these types of situations. We'll recover. The undertaker is bummed. I got dressed up for this. I was like kicking a rock. I like that he tries to rush into it after he already sees it. I love character actors from this era.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Just so good at time, time, timing, time, time, timing. Ha ha ha. So now are these guys in the reality of this? Yeah. Are they friends who sing together or do they in musical fashion just start singing together? Not yet. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:48:42 They despise each other. They despise each other. They despise each other. Now Harold Hill's up to something. Mary Wicks. So this is how easy it is to- You got them all riled up. Get people riled up back then, is you would just like shout something.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It's got this gorgeous reversible jacket. That old man was somebody, but I can't remember who. Everything should be reversible, shouldn't it? Everything. Clothes. Laws. Cars. Rights.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Okay, watch what he does with his hat. Do you think this is Robert Preston's real hair? Oh yeah, I think so. Real color? Doubt it. He's a young guy then. I mean, youngest. He's a young guy then. I mean, youngest. He's only 60.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Every song he sings is so well done. It really is. He's terrific. If you were to even write one of these, you would probably say like, I'm a genius. It's always interesting to me where you get these, you would probably say like, I'm a genius. It's always interesting to me where you get these, you know, movie adaptations of a musical and they get like some people, it's like, we gotta get him. He's the only one that could play this part. And then everybody else are like, yeah, let's get somebody else.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Right. So he originates this role, right? But the lady who originated the role. Yeah, who was it on Broadway? I can't remember. But it's a name you'd know. Right. Well, you. Why are you contemptuous of me knowing something?
Starting point is 00:50:36 No, I'm not contemptuous. It did sound contemptuous. Let's not gang up on Dr. Bilblondi. All right. Does he talk about the instruments and buying them in this, do you think? I'm gonna buy. I provide the instruments and I keep the money. This is too many instruments he's describing, isn't it? There's not even this many people in the money. This is too many instruments he's describing, isn't it? There's not even this many people in the town.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I think it's that you promise big knowing that you're gonna have to scale it back. Under deliver? Yeah. That's what you wanna do as a con man. So you make it sound like, oh, we're gonna get 76 trombones. And they say, we don't have that many people.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Like, oh, okay, I see. So now it seems reasonable. Right. I was like, oh, okay, I see. So now it seems reasonable. Right. There's too many trombones. 76? Euphoniums too.
Starting point is 00:51:35 This is one of the strange like cuts to the almost the exact same angle that movies back then would do. Yeah. Like I was watching It's a Wonderful Life recently. Christmas Eve. Why am I sure why am I obfuscating? But um, they several scenes they just cut to the exact same angle almost like
Starting point is 00:51:55 like they widen out or something. No, no. They just like in the middle of the scene, someone's talking and then there's a cut to another take that's in the exact same angle. I'm having a hard time picturing what you're talking about. So like say you could notice a cut because everyone's positions changed, but it was the exact same frame and these is that a maybe a bad print of the movie. I I don't, I don't know. It was something cut out of it's a wonderful life. I don't know, but there were just scenes. This is on NBC. I would think they would have the best print available.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Who gives a shit. There was a cannibalism, uh, sort of dream sequence and it's a wonderful life. Oh, right. Where George Bailey briefly what is, would it be better if people had eaten me instead of the not existing? Yeah. And then he dreams it and it's gross. And then he goes, I'll just kill myself. I mean, they're on board with this idea immediately. And look how talented everybody is.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It's like, why didn't they start this before? And then this guy who's setting off firecrackers just not five minutes ago, he needed a purpose. He's like, Oh my God, what if I were to do the craziest dances while I did the term? Wow. That's where that hairstyle came from. Yeah. This sort of makes me think like they're not on board yet cause like they're
Starting point is 00:53:23 making fun of the idea of marching. It's like this. It's the first dance that's been sarcastic in a musical. How fun to be in something like this though. You know, indeed. I bet that a great time. I bet they had a great time. I bet they all slept with each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 You know what I mean? Everyone's just having sex with each other. He got struck by music. But he's fine. Okay, so this guy's like, check this out. I've been taking lessons. Speaking of it's a wonderful life, the sheriff guy in the hat.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Yeah. He was in it's wonderful life. That's right, he's the guy who's always adding up numbers. This young man is gonna go work for George Bailey. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you ever say anything like that to your boss? My boss? Yeah. You mean at the Mayo Clinic? Like, Hey, you're not smart enough. I'm going to go work for someone else,
Starting point is 00:54:35 but please continue to pay me while I, I mean, I would say that under my breath. That's probably a good policy. So now we cut outside a little movie making, movie magic trivia inside when they were filming what is supposed to be inside, that's actually outside. And then when they're filming outside right here, this is actually inside.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah, they shot inside for outside of this. That's a term, film making term. It saves money. inside for outside of this. That's a term. Don't make a term inside for outside. Hey idiots, go out and join him. You couldn't find his actual sailor hat? This guy is so into the idea. Just to dance like this, throwing one hand up in the air. I love it so much. And then this guy just waving his, whatever it is, baton.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I mean, here's my opinion about Harold Hill. This is already so fun. They were at the meeting. Yeah, really. This is already so fun for everyone. They should just pay him what he wants. Exactly. It's at the meeting. Yeah, really. This is already so fun for everyone. They should just pay him what he wants. It's like sunk costs. Yeah. Like they go to a meeting once a week, some boring ass meeting. They're like, okay, how do you think? He gets all whipped up. Just pay him for that.
Starting point is 00:55:59 This is incredible. Oh, look, even people that weren't at the meeting are excited. They're having a great time. Oh, look, even people that weren't at the meeting are excited. Like, what's going on? We're doing an imaginary parade? Let me in. Meanwhile, Robert Preston throws his baton up in the air and gets off camera immediately
Starting point is 00:56:17 so it doesn't have to dance anymore. Oh, that's true. Oh, I do love Peckhorns. Yeah. I hate Esterville. This is great. He's already like on board and talking about how great they are. And then she's like, you idiot.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I've been a music teacher here for the last 30 years. I have one student. God, she's a bummer. What is he talking about there? A wrestling match. The strangler. The strangler. You mean a wrestler called the strangler? Call yourself the wrestler.
Starting point is 00:57:22 My signature move is strangling. All right, so they're going to arrest him. We're not going to arrest him yet. They want to know his credentials. This is also a point of contention between us during our argument is if someone's put in cuffs, have they been arrested? I say not yet.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I contend that they are under arrest. I think that they're being detained. They're not under arrest. What is the difference to you? One can be detained for questioning without being, without charges being filed. What is the difference to you? One can be detained for questioning without being, without charges being filed. But they don't put handcuffs on you. Sure they do.
Starting point is 00:58:13 No, you're arrested. Handcuffs, if you ever have handcuffs on you in a non-sexual manner, that means you've been arrested? No, people can, you ever, these cops by the side of the road, they'll put handcuffs on you for anything. Then they let you go. When does that happen?
Starting point is 00:58:30 You ever see people sitting by the side of the road with their hands behind their back, looking glum as hell? Look, I'm just gonna put handcuffs on you for a little bit. It happens. You're not under arrest. I'll put a head cast on you for a little bit. It happens. You're not under arrest. I'm putting a head cast on you. While I run your stuff. All right, so everyone, okay, here he goes.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Oh yeah, she says you gods. That's her catchphrase. They're saying library a lot, aren't they? That's folksy. So he's basically saying like, okay, here's how we get our juvenile delinquents not to be juvenile delinquents. If they have sex with all of her. Honestly, that's a great plan. Oh, what? Uh oh.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Now this is an eclipse. It was a space. So now this is a time jump. This now takes place five years in the future. Wow, five years? Are you sure? Yeah. Across the creek from the pest house. Here he is. It's a gorgeous jacket.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Everything about his whole thing. I wouldn't mind if people started dressing like this every day again. I think it would be nice to see some gentlemen. What if we had one day where everyone just had to dress like this? It was compulsory. Okay, here's a school boy wants his credentials.
Starting point is 01:00:30 How does he get out of it? He listens to their ridiculous voices. Say ice cream. It's brilliant theory. I love this so much. He just knows what parts they'll all be singing by their personalities. See? Well, guess what, lady? I scream. Well, guess what, lady? Ice cream.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Ice cream! What if that was the only song they ever sang again? They just walked around. For the next 10 years, they were just ice cream. Could you stop? This is gorgeous. Now, this guy I know, yeah, this guy, Paul of Tompkins,
Starting point is 01:02:05 and Doug Benson and I, and one other person, I think we, there was talk 25 years ago of us learning how to do barbershop quartet. Really? Do you think this Paul of Tompkins remembers that at all? I don't know. I'm sure Doug Benson does, but we, but and you can't remember who the fourth person can't remember, but there was like kind of a push for it. Hey, let's go take lessons so we can walk around doing this. Wouldn't that be great? I mean, somebody should. Yeah. You know, once I went down a YouTube hole looking at a barbershop quartet stuff,
Starting point is 01:02:42 really, it's pretty wild. The outfits or the singing? The singing. The outfits actually not that interesting. Yeah. They kind of keep the business casual sometimes, you know what I mean? You know, I think it's interesting that the band Weezer all took barbershop quartet lessons
Starting point is 01:03:02 and that comes out in their harmonies. Is that true? It is true, yes. But like they took them independently of each other and then they were like, hey. Hey. No, I think that was part of like, I don't know if it was Rivers Cuomo making them do it,
Starting point is 01:03:19 but he was like, we all have to learn how to do barbershop harmonies. And so they, a lot of their harmonies are based on those like barbershop. How come more barbershop quartets don't do music songs? Why don't they take rock and roll lessons? All right, so so far we've not seen any, any evidence regarding either of our theories. No, I do have a real, real fear that we missed it.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I think we may. Because I think he explains to Buddy Hackett what his scam is. Should we call Buddy? Do you know him? Let's get him on the hard. Maybe he'll fill us in. Is he for sure still alive? I don't think he is.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I don't think that he is. So now he is probably... How old is he? Oh, I thought he was going to go to space again. He's 55, she's probably 25. This is respectful. I want to know how old he was because he... You think he's young. He's younger than we think.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Probably. Everyone had a hard living back then. Back then, this guy, he could be 26 years old. That guy could be 26 years old. That guy could be a baby. Ha ha ha. Boof. So he's lying here.
Starting point is 01:05:03 This is part of his scam. So he does know a little bit about music because he heard the enemies. He knows the term perfect pitch. Yeah. Which to be fair, he could have picked up at a baseball game. That's really true. Meanwhile Buddy Hackett is like getting involved in this scam for some reason. Even though he's gone straight. He misses the life. Meanwhile, Buddy Hackett is like getting involved in this scam for some reason.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Even though he's gone straight. He misses the life. They call this scatting. It's not scatting. Scatting is... Swee-bee-bwop. I'm trying to do... Zopped away. He's 44 years old. He-dogs, dogs, 44 years old. Okay. So we sort of split the difference here. Oh, here we go. Oh, here we go. And instruction books. Oh, this is very important.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Wow. Okay. So he's added, is buying the uniforms. Can we agree now on that? Well, he said by the time uniforms arrive. But I think before that, he was saying, oh, we've added uniforms, but you're right. They've never said, he's never said, oh, you're, you're the person
Starting point is 01:06:49 purchasing. I feel like it's implied, but we'll, it still might come up. They can't just imply it. Avis Grubb. Can you imagine being cast in this like, hey, we need a bunch of ugly old ladies. I don't think that anybody said they were ugly. Is he going to try his thing on her where he's like, listen to your voice. See. Where he's like, listen to your voice. Ah, see? Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Yeah. Oh yeah, brother. Now you're talking my language. Mr. Hill. Now we need even uglier ladies to come up behind her. Come on. You're being, you're not being a gentleman. This guy is good. You got to give it to him.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Just all these gangs of women roaming the streets. I think if you're a woman and it's dark, what are you doing? Go inside. Oh, I thought it was like a riddle. If you're a woman. You're a woman. It's dark. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:08:53 Ms. Is it Peru is her name? Yeah. Really? Peru. The famous Irish name. Peru. And then they just go crazy. What are they talking about in this song? I've never been able to figure out.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I know that they're, yes, they're, I understand the rhythm of it, that it's a lot like a chicken, but what are, what are they supposedly talking about? They're talking about a Mary the librarian. Oh, okay. So it's all made sense then. But when they say pick a little talk a little, they set up all the slang terms, but it doesn't help. Yeah. So they're trying to say, see this,
Starting point is 01:09:53 this strengthens and bolsters my theory that her son is, her brother is actually her son. And that this guy, Madison is the father. Right. And it was a scandal. Yeah. I'd rather own. Did you hear that noise? Yeah. What's going on? What's happening? What is that? What is that? There's a dog underneath like about knee high. You can't see it What's happening? What is that? What is that? There's a dog underneath, like about knee high. You can't see it. Wait, this is what a dog is?
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah, you can't see it on the picture, but there's a dog running around by their feet. I've never seen one in real life. Yeah. I'd rather own the building than the books, because the building and the land is going to appreciate. This made me laugh when I was a kid, ball sack. Of course. So hilarious. And you know, and it's also anatomically, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yep. See the one is credentials. The one is credentials. Yeah. Here you go. And it's good night. Ladies. Good night ladies. Good night ladies. Good night ladies. We're going to leave you now. Farewell ladies. Farewell ladies. Farewell ladies. Farewell ladies.
Starting point is 01:11:24 We're going to leave you now. We did it. So fun. She really does look like an alien, right? I think so. She's got that oval face. She almost has like a Bjork quality. She really does look like an alien, right? I think so. She's got that oval face. She almost has like a Bjork quality. She's got that gray skin.
Starting point is 01:11:50 The almond eyes. No pupils, just black. All right, so this guy just hangs out with horses at any time he's conned. He works there. Okay. at any time he's conned. He works there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Does anyone care about may I or can I these days? Who gives a fuck? Yeah. Sorry for my language. What's the difference anyway? Is can considered to be vulgar? Like anyone can do something. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:21 You're asking for permission. Yeah, that's the difference. Shut the fuck up. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What are you thinking about, you fucking perv?
Starting point is 01:12:39 So he's basically heard that Marion fucked this guy. But he's basically heard that Marion fucked this guy. Oh, this is where he, he slut praises. It's the opposite of slut shaming, he's slut praising. Slut praising, I love it. Right through my sink down the aisle, go to glorious slain pristine goddess. No sir, love no Diana, do I play fauna, To tell you that right now. I hurl, I hiss, how can ignorance be Compared to blitz, I spark, I fizz.
Starting point is 01:13:19 For the lady who knows what time it is, I cheer and I rave. For the virtue I'm too late to save. That's not about why it's a girl for me. Who that? Buddy Hackett's an actor. Boy that's hot. That's so hot. He's too good at this.
Starting point is 01:13:43 He tickled him. He tickled him. Do you think the little flute guy is so excited when they mention sailors or boats? He's like, I gotta do this. I did it. Who do you think? Do you think there was a lot of competition for when Old Spice had that? Do you remember the old commercials?
Starting point is 01:14:13 How old? Like from the 70s? And it was like Old Spice guy, he was like coming home from sea or whatever. And the wife was all excited. Robert Preston can barely dance, but they got him doing everything he could possibly do. I mean, he looks great next to Buddy Hackett. Meanwhile, they think a horse is applauding them. They look over, it happens to be a little girl.
Starting point is 01:14:44 She totally freaks them out all right now it's important that book yeah this by the way this is a very kind of be boppy it's like that Quincy Jones song I was singing maybe we could do a mash-up here but pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty I had to do a show where we had to do finger waves like that. And it was fun. The hair part? Yeah, the show was terrible. What was the show?
Starting point is 01:15:38 It was a Rodgers and Hammerstein review that I did in Sonora, California. Oh boy. Why did you have to have finger waves? It was set in the 20s, maybe 30s. Do you know there's, there's pills you can take to make your hair like that. Really Dr. Blondie? Yep. Can you prescribe them? I'll just give them to you.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Want some? Hell yeah. I got a pocketful. Here you go. These are loose. Yep. And that's how you'll be feeling. I got a pocketful, here you go. These are loose. Yep. And that's how you'll be feeling.
Starting point is 01:16:07 So he's, it's been so long since I've seen this. Yeah. Is he basically coming in here going like, I know you fuck that guy. Guess what? I'll fuck you too. going like, I know you fuck that guy. Guess what? I'll fuck you too.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Cause he's trying to sluice her. So she won't stand in his way. Right. So is, is, is, does she have a bad reputation in town? Is that what it is? And no, no man would ever think that she had sex with that old man. And then, uh, you know then she's got all the books. Yeah. Do you think she pays herself a salary to do this? It's like, oh, I make $100,000 a year as a librarian.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Maybe she does it for, well, how would she do that? Well, she owns the book. If she pays herself a salary, how does she, where? Well, she owns the book. If she paints herself, how does she? Where does the money come from? You're like trying to Harold Hilby right now. Ha ha ha ha ha. Man, a whole couple of rows for just science. You gods. They're falling in love.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Drama and science and history all equal. What is she supposedly writing at this point? Dear God, please get me out of this situation. So he- Helping along. Helping along. Okay, so he doesn't actually, oh, and she's into it at this point. I mean, he's very charming.
Starting point is 01:17:58 He's a very charming guy. So he views her as a means to an end at this point. He's not actually, he doesn't mean anything he's saying. This is a liar's song. Exactly, he, but of course, you know he's gonna end up actually in love with her. And this is part of my question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:17 If it comes true, is he lying? Exactly. It's a great philosophical idea. Yeah. If it comes true, was it a lie? But if you know that it's a lie at the time, it's a lie. So your intent plays into it? I think your intent plays into lying, yes.
Starting point is 01:18:38 What if you think you're lying and you say something that's just true, like facts? Like an accident? Yeah. You accidentally. Like the monkeys, you know, making Shakespeare. By the way, that could never happen. No, of course not.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It's a ridiculous thought. They're not interested in doing that. Well, even if they were, I don't think they're able to. The idea that- The idea is there's infinite- The monkeys are going to focus so much on these typewriters, they're just typing all day. No, they're going to get into fights. And that's the other thing is like, Oh, if you do enough random,
Starting point is 01:19:12 like there's an infinite amount of universes. So in one of them, one of the monkeys will have accidentally without knowledge, typed out Romeo and Juliet. It's fucking ridiculous. It could never happen. Because the idea is it's an infinite number of monkeys and an infinite number of typewriters. Yeah. That's just stupid. Why are we even entertaining that? Because I'll tell you what, every single one of them
Starting point is 01:19:38 would be illegible. Yeah. There wouldn't be a single one that could. Because now they're not just going to write the words. They're also going to get the spacing correct. Yeah. There wouldn't be a single one that could. Because now they're not just going to write the words. They're also going to get the spacing correct. Yeah. Who's going to go through a manuscript that a monkey wrote to make sure that they got or, you know, O apostrophe E-R.
Starting point is 01:19:58 This is the other thing. Harold Hill comes into a library. Yeah. Everyone just starts doing this shit. Yeah. This guy rules. He's paying a salary. I have no just starts doing this shit. Yeah. This guy rules. He's paying my salary. I have no problem with him, anything he does.
Starting point is 01:20:09 He's like, basically the town, what job is it where like someone comes in and does a bunch of fun stuff? The circus? These people have never done cartwheels before. They're suddenly doing cartwheels. She's like, well now I'm having fun. Now it's fun to dance in the library. Look, I'm a plane. Hasn't been invented yet. Fuck my glasses.
Starting point is 01:20:51 This dog, by the way, is just at their feet. You can't see it in frame. Yeah. But you hear it barking everyone. So, I still can't believe that's what a dog looks like. They've cleared the frame at this point, but the dog. Now that should have snapped her out of it, I think. Yeah, but now she's like so into the idea of being a plane.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Yeah. She's like, I'm going to invent this. I'm going to invent this. But then she's going to get to him and she's going to be like, oh, I don't invent this. But then she's gonna get to him and she's gonna be like, oh, I don't like you, you creep. She's just gorgeous. Look how gorgeous she is. Look at her outfit too.
Starting point is 01:21:35 It's like a cross between a tuxedo and like an apron. That's what it was like back then. Wait, did they regress in age? That's what it was like back then. Yeah. Wait, did they regress in age? This is the most singing he does because normally he talks things. That's not true. He's got a number coming up where he sings.
Starting point is 01:21:59 So there was you? Yeah. Ouch. Can you imagine? He goes down the book elevator. That's an elevator just for books, sir. Mission accomplished. I love a quick fade out. Like why, why? How come he didn't go? Do you think he'll go to space again?
Starting point is 01:22:25 I hope so. Where are the girls from? Do you think these patterns are? I was just going to say the twinning. Yeah. That's gotta be fun. But you know how you're always told whenever you're on a TV show, like no patterns. You may not wear a tight pattern.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Guess what? They figured it out here. Why can't they on after midnight? Oh boy. This is what doorbells were like back then. I collect doorbells. That's probably his worst con. Uh oh. Have you ever considered jerking off? Oh, this is important to us.
Starting point is 01:24:05 There we go. There we go. Okay. Let me formally say. Yes. You are right about him buying the instrument at a markup. Thank you. Thank you, Bing.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I will also concede that that seems to be the case. At this point, there's no confirmation, but it seems to be the case. Come on, Bill. All right. Come on, Bill. I concede. Okay. That I'm now. Will you concede? Have proven themselves able to order things from a catalog. All that guy did was assign something. I guess that's what ordering something for the catalog is.
Starting point is 01:25:03 We got to wait for the Wells Fargo to really figure out this point. Cause I can't remember if they're like, the Wells Fargo wagons coming down the street and they're in awe, like they've never seen anything like it. That's why she's Irish. So he's racist as well. Or is he playing on other people's racism? Oh. Mm hmm. Boom.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Dead. Oh, saucy. Okay, so there's that dog who was during the dance sequences running around that we can hear. They gave that dog too much leeway. Yeah. What? Is she on to him? I can't remember. Isn't there a part where she's like, oh, okay, yeah, this is it. She knows he's a smooth talker. There is no Gary Conservatory. You fucking idiot. You bog trotting peasant.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Dr. Blondie. That's not cool, Dr. Blondie. A Shakespeare. Yeah. Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana. We say it once again. So how does he get Ron Howard to sing Gary, Indiana? Just by singing it?
Starting point is 01:27:41 I think he makes it look so fun. Yeah. Little Ronnie Howard is like, I gotta get in on this. I gotta, save me a taste. Let me wet my beak. She's having a great time. She loves it. If you could pay a guy to come over
Starting point is 01:28:02 and just sing to you like this, I guess that's what singing telegrams are. Do you think there's still such a thing as singing telegrams? I hope so. Why? I'd love to get one. Would you really? Yeah, open the door.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Jane Weedland is there? Yeah, from Clue. Would Jane Weedland do it for, like what amount of money would she go be a singing telegram? That's interesting. Like the amount of money she just could not say no to. She could sing one of her own songs. She could sing blue kiss, whatever she wants.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Oh, you're giving her a lot of leeway. Oh, you want her to sing what you want her to sing? Yeah, it's a telegram. Okay. Well, I'm just saying like maybe she adapts. What existing song is going to fit. I mean to tell ya. I love songs that end in musicals with someone falling down and going, oh, it's great. It's the perfect way to end it. Cause people fall down in real life. Yeah. Since I tried to kiss you when you didn't want it.
Starting point is 01:29:23 No, when I say his father, I mean the man who owned the library. I mean. What? This is the guy who owned the fucking library. He really looked at her like he didn't understand what she meant. This is a little heavier than I remember. Screen door, nothing I can do. What if you just tore it open? I bet that would be satisfying to do.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Just put your fist through a screen door and rip it away. Funny for him in one of the bloopers to just go like, raah! Everyone laughs on set. You're caught, rah! Peru, I do not remember her name being Peru. Seems fake. It does seem fake. Oh, oh, she she's she all right.
Starting point is 01:30:46 She just farts. Been holding this one in. Goes in the house. Oh, she's making some brown. Why didn't she just move? Move? Yeah. Where?
Starting point is 01:31:10 I don't know. She has all those books. Like everyone in this- She wants to take care of the library. No, she wants the books. She owns the books. She doesn't care about where they are. Just rent a U-Haul.
Starting point is 01:31:18 She wants to be- I think she cares about the library's sciences. No, take the book somewhere else where she doesn't have this reputation. But she's not going to be cowed by these cheap, cheap, cheap. These henpecking Harpies. Okay, so Ed Griner. Is a creep. All these Eds. Another Ed. Removable backseat, what does that mean?
Starting point is 01:31:54 Oh, meaning that's where you can have sex. What's she making? I knew you'd get there. Is she making chili? What is this? Yeah, she's making her famous four love chili 1910 Iowa I
Starting point is 01:32:13 Do not remember this song It's not a great one This is probably the least forget or most forgettable or at least memorable. Oh, what do you think it is? It's one end of the spectrum somewhere sky gorgeous voice or most forgettable or least memorable. Ooh, which do you think it is? I don't know. It's in one end of the spectrum somewhere. It's got a gorgeous voice. Yeah. I remember, so I grew up in the seventies.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I don't know when you grew up, Bing. Oh, long time before the seventies. But I'm a very old man. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. But- My wife died two days ago. I'm sorry. I know we scheduled this three weeks ago. You, you could have said something. I know. Right. Um, but when I grew up,
Starting point is 01:32:53 Shirley Jones was, she was kind of, it felt like she was an older woman, especially to someone who was six or of course. So I never viewed her as you know, a sexual object, sexual sexual object until watching this film and saying, I was exploring it. Okay. Oh, she's making a pizza. Just like Frank Sinatra. He's making a chocolate pizza with walnuts. This actually sounds good. Should we market these? Chocolate pizza with walnuts? Yeah. Sure. With like round kind of like, you know, those coins, the chocolate coins that you unwrap, those are pepperonis. Chocolate coins that you unwrap?
Starting point is 01:33:35 From the gold, you know. Did you include the unwrapping part because you thought I was going to put wrapped chocolate coins? Well, I didn't want? Yes, because, Bing, you have this tendency to... But you can make this like a gold leaf paint that's edible. Yeah, that would be fun to make that. It'd be fun. What do you think the recipe is?
Starting point is 01:33:59 I think it'd be fun. Recipe is chocolate in a circle. I mean for the gold paper. Gold. Okay. Brush. Melt everything. Season to taste. This song sucks.
Starting point is 01:34:14 It does. But we do get her sexual history. Someone pondering. Oh, did she mention? Did she have sex with a dude? Talked about a past lover who drove the streetcar. But we do get her sexual history. Someone pondering. Oh, did she mention? Did she have sex with a dude? Talked about a past lover who drove a streetcar.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Drove a streetcar? Yeah. What happened to him? I don't know. We started talking. Well, we'll have to rewatch this. I was just watching you guys. So she, everyone thinks she was with the guy who owned the library, but instead she was
Starting point is 01:34:54 in love with the guy who raced street cars, Fast and Furious. He raced them because I think they're on a track. But he'd still go fast. You're just not getting off track. You can go fast or slow. You can go fast or slow, but I don't think they're able to line them up so that they can race. You have to go all the way to the roundhouse and turn it around.
Starting point is 01:35:20 You get a crane and lift it up to face the other way. It was really inefficient back then. Yeah, now street car races are easy. And legal everywhere. And a little walnut. And all 48. Oh, now he went to space. Oh, she's going to space too.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Goodbye! They're both going! More movies scenes should end like this. I like that. Like you're watching The Brutalist and just scenes should end like that. I haven't seen The Brutalist. Is it about a mean guy? I hope so.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Wait, have you seen it or you haven't seen it? I haven't seen it. It sounded like you did see it. Yeah, that's what I thought. You referenced it, but you haven't seen it? People reference things they haven't seen all the time. Okay, so explain the reference. Hello, Gunga Dean.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Perfect example. You gods, you gods count at three or four. Four. Wow. Good math Gunga Din. Four. Wow. Good math, Gunga Din. What? You're a better man than I, Gunga Din. That's what I'm thinking of. Another you got, five.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Five. Meanwhile, the oldest woman I've ever seen. What if she's still alive? What? Boy, give me a number. Again with that book. What is? It's important. Oh, that's right, because there's, where he with that book, it's important. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Because there's where he went to school. She's going to look it up, right? It's the one. Why is that book always facing out? Who's reading this book ever? The fact that she's constantly putting it away. People are checking it out, returning it. They can't get enough.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Just look at that dog. Okay, this it. They kick it enough. Look at that dog. OK, this is a Wells Fargo wagon. So does anyone say like. It looks extremely pathetic. In my memory, it was much bigger. Yeah, I know. Yes. Does anyone say, I know how to order things from a catalog.
Starting point is 01:37:38 A what? A bird from Tampa. I think. What's a Mackinac? Mackinac was a raincoat. Oh, so a Mack, yeah. Which is. Cause also a Macintosh is a coat.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Yeah. So now we've dated this movie. It's 1912. That's right. Although this scene. Yeah, the Titanic sank. Did it really? Yeah. That's right. Although this seems- The year the Titanic sank. Did it really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:07 I only know- Just a few months before. Ha ha ha. Boodling. Ooh, boodling. That was a filthy word back then. Yes, but if you just lunches out with it, Shirley Jones, instead you give little girls time to interrupt you. I wish this guy was still alive.
Starting point is 01:38:41 I know I'd love to shake his hand. Without saying a word and then just pivot, turn around and walk away. COD cash on delivery. So they know the term COD. That's right. Kind of implies that they know how to order things. They're not order things, but it does seem like they're not able to track things.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Yes. Although I know we were talking about this, this person got something on her birthday. Like, how do you order knowing it'll come on your birthday? Or was that just chance? I guess it's up to the, the, the, whoever is the shipper. You know what I bet happened is someone else ordered it for her birthday. I expect a new rocking chair. This weirdo wants his raisins. I record how square. So this isn't Harold Hill's doing.
Starting point is 01:39:42 No, he has nothing to do with this. He's just excited by the fucking wagons. This is just capitalism they're excited about. No wonder Ron Howard's so embarrassed by his acting career. Like he's great in this, but can you imagine being him and ever watching this and going like, what a goober. It'll be wild to have film of yourself like that
Starting point is 01:40:07 from being such a little kid. God, this looks so cheap. It looks shitty. What? Oh, and he's in the back of it, I love it. Oh, he's got a trumpet. He's got one trumpet. Gonna give it to Winthrop.
Starting point is 01:40:32 He wipes his fucking face. I love that. He's broken out of it. Now you would think the instruments are the most expensive part of everything, but he must be charging a lot for his time. Because he's... So now I was incorrect by the way, because I thought they were about to arrest him right before the instruments.
Starting point is 01:41:08 But they were just suspicious. Yeah, which I think was what I maintained. Yes. So I wouldn't mind. He wouldn't mind apologizing again? For what I'm about to do, which is punch you in the fucking face. I concede that you were correct in that.
Starting point is 01:41:27 He was not about to be arrested. Thank you. That they were merely suspicious. Yes. They couldn't be about to arrest him that many times. It's true. It's an escalation as we say in the biz. He's also the mayor can't arrest people.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Now they're all going to space. Goodbye. He's also the mayor can't arrest people. Now they're all to practice, right? That's right. Okay, this is where we first see his think method in action. We're about to see the think method. Okay. Girl's locker room.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Hmm. This is, now this is what the movie Porky's was based on. Yeah. This is a prequel to Porky's. Or I guess Porky's is the unofficial sequel to the musical. I'm glad we got to see them all one at a time. Then the last one, they were like, don't do any business.
Starting point is 01:42:40 We got business out of the first few. So they have basketball. Now I remember, do you ever read those great brain books? What? The books, a series of books called the great brain. Little Mormon boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little LDS. And he was all set around this.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Make him LSD, you got my attention. It was all set maybe 15 years before this, right? Before the turn of the century. Maybe. I remember things like basketball coming to town and they were always like, we've heard of this new game called basketball. And then, you know, the great brain gets really good at it.
Starting point is 01:43:24 It's like one of those things where they had a hyphen in there that they don't have any, like the Batman and great brain gets really good at it. He's sinking threes from half court and he's just like swish, swish, swish. They describe this in the book. The great brainrows again. Nothing but net. This is a boring scene, but I guess it's necessary. It's a real like, you know, this is not enough students women's lives and men's.
Starting point is 01:44:01 By the way, that dog is still like just right at Harold Hill's feet. They've cut him out of the frame. He doesn't even get a credit. This poor kid, he doesn't know that he's being bamboozled. This guy, by the way, the main love interest looks way older than everyone here. He really does. He's like 30.
Starting point is 01:44:31 And looks like he's seen some shit too. He's been to Nam. He got back from the war. It's like I saw horrors in Korea. Shouldn't he have his hat off indoors or is there an age cut off for that? Oh, that's a good question because some of the little boys do have the hats on. Yeah. It's like, Hey, you're, you're 10 now.
Starting point is 01:44:53 You take your hat off indoors. Look how serious they are. This is a good, look at like Michael Rappaport back there with the tuba. Yeah, really? Why doesn't he just say he's a singing teacher? Cause like everyone he teaches to sing and they're all good at it. This guy is old as hell. He's like Bobby Darren's age right before he died. How old? But he died young.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Yeah. He had like a heart palpitation. Is he the best example? Who do you want me to pick? John Bidae Ramsey? Jesus. The candy guy looked like Alex Trebek. Alex Trebek.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Jeopardy, by the way. What's that? A million dollars. Hot dog. Hot dog has a exclamation mark in the title. That's right. See, you gotta pronounce it. Jeopardy! Jeopardy!
Starting point is 01:45:50 Ye gods count up to six. Great honk. Great honk. A little late for a catchphrase, my friend. He did say it once before. Okay. You gotta say it at least five times. He's got three more to go. Hope he can get it in there. This town has so much stuff in it.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Why are they so bored that they need this guy? I would just be at this place every day. I think a ye gods is coming. This guy, he rules. He's so good. I wish there were more people like this. I wish there were more role-players like this. Oh, nice. Horse whip, another form of execution.
Starting point is 01:46:42 That one. That's so funny. Just great actors all around. Weird joke. He raises his hand really briefly. like I'm going to say something. It's like he has mind powers. Yeah. Like the force. He was using the force.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Okay. Seven. Him and his phraseology. Into the wrong side of town. Yeah, that's what the point is. Thanks for the buggy ride. That's a good thing to say. Thanks for the buggy ride. That's a good, that's a good thing to say. Thanks for the buggy ride. G-Lis is his kid's name. D-J-I-L-A-S.
Starting point is 01:48:02 This is great. God, this guy's great. Paul Ford. Hello Mayor. Hello, hello, hello. References. God, that hat. What if her hair was that shape? Is she drinking that liquid that the bird drinks when you set him up?
Starting point is 01:48:35 This is what I ordered. Do you know what I mean? What the bird drinks when you set him up? Like the plastic bird and you push his head and then he drinks from the water and he goes back up these phrases i love them so much he knows so much about the instruments he should just be a music guy. Wouldn't it be great if that was true? I would have dreams where I could play
Starting point is 01:49:20 The Minu-LNG? Well, instruments like this, and I would be handed it, and I would have a concert. I would go like, oh yeah, I know how to play it. Wait, you were handed it, and you instantly had a concert? Yeah. Wow, congrats. I wish more, life was like that.
Starting point is 01:49:36 It should be. Like you're handed a guitar, and it's like, hey, you have a concert now. That's just great about drugs. Because if somebody hands you a drug, and then the whole new world happens. The whole concert happens. Was that, was she about to pay for her drink?
Starting point is 01:50:02 Is that what was happening? And he's like, forget about it baby. I got this one's on Harold Hill. What's his actual name? You gotta spend money to make money. Gregory. We never hear his last name. We never hear it?
Starting point is 01:50:14 Oh wow. Maybe we do. Maybe when. When he's making those posters, he's, but I feel like he's just plastering over another fake name. Like an alias is already, you know what we should have looked at. Let's just do another watch along and we'll see it next time. Same movie. Yeah. Okay. Just for that one part. Rest of the time, we'll be quiet. You can enjoy the film. Oh, now he's in space.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Okay, great. Oh, and he's transported back to earth. Wow. Transported back to earth. Wow. They're starting to match. It's really happening. Conspiracy. A pipe? Oh no. What's overdue? The red. He held it long enough so they could see it. It was pretty big. I know. I wasn't looking.
Starting point is 01:51:24 No, but I mean they could see it and then they're still like, what is it? He goes, oh, it's a letter from a lady. He's good at singing. Just be a singing teacher. See, look at what he did. The magic he's making. Just pay him for that. I think they're going to do the they're going to do the magic he's making. Just pay him for that. I think they're going to do the, they're going to do the chain, the key change thing that I love when,
Starting point is 01:51:53 when barbershop quartets do it. Yeah. Ding. Like you said earlier, that's so close to your name, Bing. It is. Bing again. Bing and Ding. I used to have a friend when I was a boy who's name was Ding. Really?
Starting point is 01:52:13 Yeah. What happened? Did he not grow up? No, he's still alive, but he did not grow up. He's still a little boy. So he has like a Peter Pan kind of thing going on? There was three of us. Bing, Ding Ding and Thing.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Thing from the Addams Family. The Thing was a little rocky orange boy. My name, light a rose. How everyone knows, that I am hoping you're the same. So here is my love song. When they do the crossfade, that's when they do the key change, right?
Starting point is 01:53:00 I don't know what you're talking about. I'll point it out. Yeah, please. The crossfade. To another song, I think. I don't know what you're talking about. I'll point it out. Please. La Crosse fade. To another song, I think. Won't you be my light rose, my light rose. Okay, listen, listen. Rose and they do the key change up to here. Singing is just the same talking.
Starting point is 01:53:30 A love song. Can you imagine? Sure. Oh, there's more? Yeah, well, what are you imagining? I can't imagine anything. Okay. I bet you can't imagine a dragon sitting on top of a golden carriage.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You're saying I can't imagine dragons? I'm thinking about it right now. All right. You got me. But can you imagine a woman singing a song about you? Oh, sure. I like to think about that. My wife used to sing to me. Oh, until she died two days ago?
Starting point is 01:54:09 Yeah. Yeah. But she would always sing the same song. What song? Happy birthday. Once a year? Yeah. On special occasions.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Light a rose, oh, put a rose on. I'm just gonna sit down on this then. The other guy's like, I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand.
Starting point is 01:54:32 I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand.
Starting point is 01:54:40 I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. I'll stand. And then the other guys were like, how come you get the chair? I bet two of them were like, okay, you get the chair. I'm just going to sit down on this. Then the other guy's like, I'll stand. We're going to, we're going to man spread.
Starting point is 01:54:51 So the fourth guy is to stand up. Meanwhile, the mom has nothing to do. Nope. She's just staring off into space. I mean, she gets to listen to Shirley Jones saying, which is nice. She's looking out the window of the spaceship,, she gets to listen to Shirley Jones saying, which is nice. She's looking out the window of the spaceship, I think. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Oh, there's Pluto. Oh no, space whale. He needs our help. Pluto in outer space. The dog. Not the form of planet. Ha ha ha. FKA Pluto. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:55:31 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:55:38 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Brutalize. Initiate brutalize. Are you talking about the brutalist again?
Starting point is 01:55:45 Brutalize. That's his phrase. Brutalist. Brutalize. Time to brutalize. Why don't I ever get to sing a fun song like you get to sing? All I can do is this accent.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Meanwhile. Is whittling and walking a great combo? Jesus Christ. He's going to stab himself to death. Martin of Tours. Audible weapon. Oh, he's Harold now? That's nice, they become friends. Best friends.
Starting point is 01:56:45 What do you think Buddy Hackett feels about that? Oh, you're friends with this little boy now? You got more than one friend. I thought you and I were friends. Are we friends? Bing? I was in the guise of Buddy Hackett. No, but I'm asking you.
Starting point is 01:56:58 I like to think we're friends. Well, you have more than one friend, right? Right. I mean, you're my doctor. I think we have more of a professional relationship. A doctor is the best friend you can have. The doctor is a best friend? That you can have, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:14 I'm the only one who could save you from death. Are your other friends gonna do that? Well, if I was in a, like a Tesla that was exploding in front of a casino or something like that, I hope they would pull me from it. They won't. I can tell you that right now. All right. Oh, boy. This is like an immediate fast forward in my house.
Starting point is 01:57:38 It's also it's luckily it's a short song. Yeah. I finally get to sing and it's this. It's so crazy that this guy would end up being my boss one day. He's really adorable. He's great. He's a cute little guy. Very nice man. Ah, see? I love you son. When I was watching this when I was 14 years old, to think that one day he would sign my paychecks. But what about when you watch Happy Days? That's another part of it.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Oh boy. Here we go. When Charles Cowell shows up, that's a problem. Have you ever leaned on a post like that? Probably. I've leaned on a lot of things in my lifetime. Like what? Wall. Deer? Tree. I don't know if I've ever leaned against a deer. If it's there, I'm going to lean against it. You think it'll let you? I have so much time to clean.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Do you think the expression is, if you have time to lead against a deer? You have time to clean a deer. Deer. Honey. Okay, you're a creep, get the fuck out. Dear. Dear. Honey. Okay, you're a creep. Get the fuck out. Now that's a good fake name.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Heavier than that. Anvil? Oh, she's all in now. She's all in. This is so, every line is just crafted so exquisitely. Equally crafted by an artist named Meredith Wilson. Man, knit. This guy's pretty great too. Girlie girl. He's like the proto Dave Keckner. Yeah. He looked at her boobs.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Right at him. Maybe I do have. You know, that's the one thing as a doctor, I never get tired of. Looking at boobs. Love them. I thought I keep expecting to get bored. Yeah. Never happened. Any size, any shape. I thought I'd keep expecting to get bored. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Never happened. Any size, any shape. Love them all. Drop your anvil again, man. He's really strong. Drop your anvil again, man. He's really strong. Ah, yes.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Oh, yes. Dun, dun, dun, dun. I don't remember this at all. You don't? I love this scene. Cause she's acting all hot. I don't remember them having any exchange whatsoever. I just remember him showing up at the big town square. Right. He starts screaming and yelling.
Starting point is 02:01:18 No, she's... She's stalling. She's stalling for time because he's got to get back on that train. Plus maybe she's just horny in general and is like. Yeah, why not? What are anvils for? You hammer stuff on there. Yeah, like what?
Starting point is 02:01:40 Like a horseshoe. It's how you make a horseshoe. Why don't you just do it on the table? That's a great question, Scott. Tin type, girly girl. Not on your tin, I mean, that wasn't, nobody ever said that. Not on your tin type. Like were the people in the seventies saying,
Starting point is 02:02:02 not on your Polaroid camera? The train's chugging. Oh, taking it away. That's that's that's slang. That's slang for sex. Mouths open. These assholes are still singing over there. Question. He's made everyone's lives better. You know what I mean? These guys hated each other. Now they own extra hats. Yep. There's the two hat gang.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Oh, now they're writing their own material. That went well. They feel good. They feel good about that take. Oh, he points at everyone he talks to. I feel like that would get tiring. It used to be. Now it's rude, but it used to be, you had to do that. I just feel like your arms would get so tired. Do you? Yeah, that's why people don't do it anymore.
Starting point is 02:03:32 You don't listen so good. I just feel like your arms would get so tired. He's out of focus. He is out of focus. He is out of focus. I guess he's behind her. Do you think it was an intentional choice? Maybe. Although normally you would pull focus over to him
Starting point is 02:03:52 when she turns around. But now he's in. I guess you know a thing or two about pulling focus. Because I've directed a movie? Yeah, I think that's what he meant. It actually is. A dog is still in the take. What's the eyeliner budget?
Starting point is 02:04:32 I'm trying to say is taking the virginities of a hundred people. Have you deflowered 100 women? I wonder if that's a world record. Wish I could call my friend. Who's your friend? My friend Fred. I don't care. Call him. You want me to call Fred? I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 02:04:57 Hmm. Let me see. Try to call him here. So she, because Winthrop is having such a good time and not moping about his dead dad anymore, she's like, I don't care if this guy's calm and he's great. Yeah. Why are you actually?
Starting point is 02:05:21 It's ready. Hey, Fred. What's the, what's the world record for virgins deflowered by one person by one person? Yeah. Okay. Not by country. Exactly. All right. Hold on a second. 252. Okay. I was nowhere near close. Okay. Thanks, Fred. You got it. You don't want to know who it was? Yeah. Who? Who is it, Fred? James Carville. James Carville. I got a text from him earlier today. Crazy. All right. Thanks, Fred.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Bye. You got it. Love you. So my friend says 252 is a lot. That's a lot. James Carville. I wonder if it's the same, the famous one. I doubt it.
Starting point is 02:06:33 She relates because people started rumors about her. That's right. That's how they bond. We're the rumor couple. We both have rumors about us. He's giving me an in to forget about my morality. Yes. Just that you're a real James Carvel. Acting is all about the shoulders and above, isn't it? I couldn't have put it better myself.
Starting point is 02:07:14 If you can't act there, you got to get out of the business. If your shoulders are stiff and wouldn't to get about it. Acting is reacting with your shoulders. I wonder if these two liked each other. That's a good question. I mean, it happens sometimes that they don't like each other. I bet they did though. I bet they did. It's only a summer you're spending together, you know?
Starting point is 02:07:51 I could like this person for three months. Yeah. Then I never have to see them again. Other than at the cast party. And maybe the Academy Awards. He's taking it up a notch saying, let's go to the footbridge. Wants to take her to the second location. The footbridge, everybody knows where it all goes down. The wiki foot bridge.
Starting point is 02:08:20 15 minutes. Is there also a website that's wiki foot where it's just one foot? Yeah. We could only get some data on this one. Does is he in love with her yet? I can't quite tell. I think this scene is meant to flip the switch on him. This is where they really happened, I think. But I feel like he's still kind of,
Starting point is 02:08:53 he's still kind of the con man. Yeah. At what point does he go like, oh, I actually do like her. I think it's going to happen real soon. I think it's gonna happen real soon. He's still kind of playing his thing though here. Yeah. That music and being- Oh, he drugged her. Oh, Rufies, Bill Cosby. How old was she when this was made?
Starting point is 02:09:26 I bet she is 23. Really? Yeah. What's your guess, Bing? I'm gonna... Ah, big laugh. I'm going to say she is, she's 23 and a half. Price is right rules. 29. Okay. I'm going to say she's 19 years old.
Starting point is 02:10:06 19, okay. That's a wide range. I can't, I don't judge ages. It's surprising for a doctor, I don't judge ages very well. Now bear in mind, there'll be a year younger. Who's Baron Mind? Excuse me, Baron?
Starting point is 02:10:21 28. 28, but a year younger would be 27 because, 28 when the movie comes out, 27 when she films it. Did Charlie Cowan miss his train or he came back on a different train? Oh, is he there? Yeah, he just came up to the Buffalo Bills. He must have come back on a different train. Right?
Starting point is 02:10:39 Oh no, this is, no, this is still the same. Same night. And he, that's why they put a ticking clock on it, right? The 15 minutes of it all. That's right. He must've missed his train. I bet he clarifies. So he's a dance teacher too?
Starting point is 02:10:55 Just do that, man. You don't have to be a music teacher. It is fun to fool people though, isn't it? That's true. Absolutely. That's a good point. Like a lot of times I'll tell people. So the very first date is usually a hussy and a woman who will kiss on the second time out is anything but fussy but a woman who will wait till the third time around.
Starting point is 02:11:15 Head in the clouds, feet on the ground, she's the girl he's found, he's found, she's a shpoopy, shpoopy, shpoopy, shoopy, the girl is hard to get. Shippoopy, Shippoopy, Shippoopy, but he can't win her yet. Walk her once, just raise the curtain, walk around twice and you make first certain, once more in the flower garden, she will never get sorry if you beg her pardon.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Do you think this is the most that Buddy Hackett ever moved in his life? Ha ha ha ha. the most that Buddy Hackett ever moved in his life. Do you think he like had to think about it before taking this role? Like you want me to what little was I was a no gal as anyone could see. Look at her now. She's a go gal who only goes for me. Do we ever see his girlfriend?
Starting point is 02:12:03 His wife? Yeah, we've seen her a few times. Who is she? She played the piano. I love that. And then the roller kept going and interrupted the Gettysburg dress. But I feel like the tune is getting away from him
Starting point is 02:12:19 a little bit. He's also looking down at his feet a little more than I, and probably the choreographer just off camera. Meanwhile, let's let the professionals at this. Let's let the professionals at this. So these are the steps that Harold Hill taught them? Now see, that's always the thing in musicals is that do people in musicals know they're dancing?
Starting point is 02:12:42 These people know they're dancing, definitely. But- Now, why do you say that? Because they were like just talking about, oh, we want to show off the steps. Okay, but that's the thing. Are these, theirs is his wife. But to your point, do people in musicals
Starting point is 02:12:57 know they're singing a song or is it just like a fantasy? I think in this particular case, they know they are singing a song and they know they are dancing. And this is part of the festivities. Right. That's not the case, for instance, when he sings very soon until there was you. That's right. That is just pure love. Pure love coming out of him. But this is like, Hey, these are steps that Harold Hill taught us. And this is part of a fun. So the idea is that Harold Hills choreographed this entire thing.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Which is like, just be that. Including the Buddy Hackett part? Buddy Hackett. Like, can he get together with Marcellus and say, hey, I got this new song, Cha-poopy. Could you choreograph some of this? You can do your own moves, and I'll take care of the guys
Starting point is 02:13:45 and the girls. So good. He got his great hunk, he got his great hunk. I gotta look at this guy. Cause he's, I've liked his work ever since I was young watching this movie. I don't know anything about him. You know that he was in this.
Starting point is 02:14:01 And that's all I know about him, but gosh, I hope his life was good. The first thing I always look at when I check out a Wikipedia page is personal life. Cause I want to know like, were they happy? How many divorces do they have? Were they racist? Hey, I got a question.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Were they canceled? Were they racist? I got a question. Yeah. Why did Harold Hill stay 15 minutes when he's just standing there watching this thing? Because she needs time to prepare, I think. Like she said she had to get dressed.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Oh, she probably had to take like penny royalty or something to make sure she didn't get pregnant. Meanwhile, I love the style of dancing too. This should come back. This seems like the kind of dancing I could do. How about that part? I could do this. If Robert Pressing could do something, I can do it. Yes, I can do anything as good as Robert Pressing.
Starting point is 02:14:57 Oh, I love this. This is something I could do. I could do that part for sure. Oh my God. That looks like, again, it looks like making fun of dancing. I would love to do, Bing, did you say that you wanted to play this part, Harold Hill? I don't think I did. I would love to. I've never been on the stage. I would love to do this with you where we switch off scenes. Switch off scenes? Yeah. I'll do this scene.
Starting point is 02:15:29 So not switch off nights like True West style, but switch off scenes. Now I saw my friend's child in Little Shop of Horrors when they were five years old and there were two people playing each part, two kids playing each part. Oh, I see, I see. And they just said the lines along with each other. That's interesting. It other. That's interesting. It was. That's interesting dramaturgy.
Starting point is 02:15:53 This woman in the front was not even pretending to sing really. Okay, so is this his wife? She's a pianola or whatever? Yeah, she plays the pianola. Okay. You know, when you cast someone in a movie as a love interest,
Starting point is 02:16:08 they don't have to look exactly like the person. What's this theory? Well, like, okay, we need someone for Buddy Hackett's love interest. Oh, let's cast someone who looks like buddy hack it wearing a dress Oh, you don't have to do that. I didn't think that she looks like buddy. Hack it. Come on Is he still saying 15 minutes the 15 more minutes he keeps adding time Every dance numbers to set back. It doesn't feel like he's in love with her yet
Starting point is 02:16:44 He's gonna try it again. Oh no, he's... Don't you think this movie would make a little more sense if like everything in the town sucked before he got there. And then, then I mean it did. Yeah, but they still had that 4th of July thing. Yeah, this is part of it. This bullshit Grecian earns. Right.
Starting point is 02:17:21 I guess everyone was standoffish when he got there, but. Oh boy, now it's's trouble right here in River City Wait is she in it's a wonderful life to second from the left She's the the the person in who plays she's in the office She's the person who plays, she's in the office? No. Okay. That's a good guess though. I see why you say that.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Now this is filmed at Griffith Park. Oh boy, look at the sex that's happening back there. Yeah. This is on the trails at Griffith Park. This is just pretty close to where we're taping this. Yeah, definitely not a sound siege. It couldn't be more outdoors. It's definitely not a sound siege. It couldn't be more outdoors.
Starting point is 02:18:05 From the echo of the foot steps to the lighting. This is a real lake, obviously. Okay, so this is where we see that he literally has dreams of being, he's kind of using the think system on himself. Although this really is all a conductor does, just waves his arms around like a flapping bird. I dare you to say that to Dudamel.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Go up to him and say, you're nothing more than a flapping bird, Dudamel. Where can I find him? So he breaks the stick. He's like, that's not gonna come true. I'm actually leaving all these people because I've been conning them. You're pregnant.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Oh. Because she's supposed to be canonically 26 years old? She's counting the time when she as a baby. Come on. What if he was counting the time, like from conception? So the nine months, I don't think that's fair. That's when a person becomes a person is the moment of conception. I'm not going to argue that boy with you. I'm not going to get into that, but I do think it's unfair to hold it against her
Starting point is 02:19:26 for part of her life. She can walk. She's supposed to get to the footbridge. Cry enough that your parents take you? What are you pointing at? She had a fly on her head. Oh, there's a fly on her head? Wow.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Like Mike Pence. He had COVID during that debate, right? Yeah, of course he did. Of course. Of course he did. Of course. Of course he did. I mean, we all know it. Why isn't that story broken? Like, yeah, I mean, both he and Trump did have COVID during their debates.
Starting point is 02:19:59 Probably several times. This is a gorgeous song. Now, I believe my parents got, I believe this played at their wedding. Oh, that's nice. So in the documentary I made about their love, I played this version and then the credits had the Beatles version.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Oh yeah, the Beatles. And John had a toilet seat around his neck. Toilet seat around his neck, yeah. While he played that song. All them at all. Till there was you. There was a guy. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:20:41 There was a guy that I was in choir with who was a foreign exchange student who sang this during one of our choir concerts and he had the heaviest accent. And it's just been burned in my mind of, till there was you. He's from Transylvania? Just for 40 years I've been thinking about this. Was this concert at night? I do not drink wine.
Starting point is 02:21:11 It's singing. Oh yeah, she's gonna go for that crazy note. Yeah. This is why you cast a Shirley Jones, if you want that note. Now this is why you cast a Shirley Jones. So this is where he falls in love with her is like, oh shit, she's also the fact,
Starting point is 02:21:29 doesn't she say that she knows he's a con? I think she does. And doesn't care. Like when they're coming for her. He's very tender right here. I think he's like, he's heard her explain it. He sees himself reflected in her lies of love. Yeah. He knows he's a piece of shit. This is what all love stories are. There's, let me see if I can get this
Starting point is 02:21:53 right, there's three people that you present to the world. There it goes. There's the hero that you present to your family. The one that walks with three legs. Yes. And the, what you know yourself to be, which is a piece of shit. And he's seeing himself as the hero that he's been presenting himself as, but he knows he's a piece of shit, but he thinks he can be the hero that he actually is.
Starting point is 02:22:21 That was like me and my wife. Really? She made me feel like I was worthwhile. What are you gonna do without her being? Well, I get to move the furniture around the way I like it. How do you like it? Different. Like in different rooms and stuff?
Starting point is 02:22:41 Yeah, I'm gonna put the- Do you need help? Dining room and the living room. The kitchen and the bedroom? Yeah, I'm going to put the dining room in the living room. The kitchen in the bedroom. Yeah, why not? Another fake name. F I M L Fribble. Rudy Fribble. Rudy Fribble.
Starting point is 02:23:04 I don't sound like him, right? No, Bing. My wife told me I had a beautiful voice. Hmm. So you can't be- Okay, the uniforms, uniforms. He collected the money for the uniforms. So he, okay. So he got the money for the uniforms. So yeah. She's it. Oh, and
Starting point is 02:23:32 his name was Buster Brown. Also, when he's talking about his commission, he's talking about boning Marion. Yeah. That's what they used to call it back then. Yeah, let's have a commission. Because you're committing a sin that results in a child. Right. You know, my wife and I never had kids, even though there was nothing wrong with either one of us.
Starting point is 02:23:56 So we had sex positively all the time. It just never happened. It just never happened. Wow, that's the thing about sex. That's what happens when body starts lapping from doing the wild thing. Well, they're doing a role play, but pretending to be themselves. So he, he's back to, he's like snapped out of it. We're like, okay, now let me, let me have sex.
Starting point is 02:24:34 But now he's realizing, wait, you know, I'm a piece of shit and you still love me. How can that be possible? It rings true. It got me. It rings true. It rings true. Now he falls in love with her. I'm not stupid. How can you tear out a page where there's the absence of something? You know what I mean? Like there was no conservatory in 05. I tore out the page where it said that.
Starting point is 02:25:15 This just in. We still don't have a conservatory. Maybe next year. These guys do not look happy. It's your got to go. Dear that guy. Oh, Down. Oh. Okay, so here's. More conducting. The Anvil guy. Does he ever mention if he got on the train or not?
Starting point is 02:25:57 Nope. Wouldn't you love to do that during a show? Stop! Just talk to the audience like this? I think if we ever do a live show together, Bing, I would love for you to just talk to the audience like this. Sure, you low down idiotic fools.
Starting point is 02:26:15 You bonehead. You stupid idiots. You, you, bowlegged. I can't get a line. Wow. You're fiddling in the parlor. Oh, so funny. God, I wish I could talk to my wife like that. Quiet.
Starting point is 02:26:36 She ate one of the grapes that's on her costume. Hey, welcome to SAG-AFTRA. You sir are a taft heart lead. Uh oh. And we'll execute him. Crucify him. Crucify him. Crucify him. Crucify him.
Starting point is 02:27:21 Crucify him. Crucify him. Crucify him. One. Two. Who are you, Harold, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, I think she got a boob job for this one. Okay. All right, dear. That's good. Dr. Blondie, do you ever perform boob jobs?
Starting point is 02:27:51 If they ask. Do they have to ask? I've never done one without consent. Well, I did one without consent. I did one because I thought it's what they wanted and then they forward me afterwards. No, I did not want this. When did they find out? Like they went all the way home, looked in the mirror? No, it's immediately upon waking in the hospital
Starting point is 02:28:08 Oh, wow. Yeah What have you been doing all night there's a huge social going on yeah, what the fuck He's pointing out her again. He loves to point. His patented pointing at her. What does that mean? He's like, oh, you're getting all ready for me, huh? And then only bass. Why would there be only one bass? It does seem like if they have a billion instruments,
Starting point is 02:28:47 why would they only have one bass? Is he talking to bass guitar? That's what I assumed. Maybe he's got a stack of Marshalls that are so big. A stack of Marshalls? Is that the term? Marshall amps? A stack of Marshalls?
Starting point is 02:29:03 Yeah. Not the clothing store. Is that the term? Marshall amps? A stack of Marshalls? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not the clothing store. Oh yeah, that was my confusion. Like you imagine a bunch of Marshall's clothing stores stacked up. The Marshall stack.
Starting point is 02:29:17 Yeah. Sweet dreams. See, he's crossed over now where he's like, I'm not even thinking about this fake band. Here I am singing this love song because I'm in love but how can he stay here in town he's a con man he's got to move on before they catch him he's got to move on like funky town I like this because they it, it's live singing too. Oh yeah, it is. But it hasn't been other times because it's gorgeous acting.
Starting point is 02:29:57 But the other times it wasn't because you can see the, that's a great suit. There's no two ways around it. Little Roddy Howard who wear a great suit. That's where I went from. Now they're going to burn him alive. Yeah, that's the idea. They're going to Joan of Arcum. Winnieing!
Starting point is 02:30:21 Oh my God! Listen. So people could just take whatever horse they want. That really made me anxious. Even more horses! What this town needs is horses to catch this guy. They're just whipping these horses. They even brought the dog. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 02:30:48 It would be great if someone was whipping them too. Faster. If the mayor's wife is whipping them up. Let's look in here. What is that? That's a different criminal escaping. He's been hiding out in the lumber factory. It's nice that he grabbed a suitcase for him. Oh, Mr. Hale.
Starting point is 02:31:20 Execution? They're going to execute him. It's called a people's execution. What if she came with him and got the hell out of the sound? You can send for the books. Who cares about the books at that point? You know what I mean? Other than the one that's how to have sex. She's gonna need that one. This is why he can't leave. He's betrayed him. It's the first time he's ever told the truth. I wish this would work on my daughter, but it doesn't.
Starting point is 02:32:35 I'm bigger than you. Catch more flies with honey. Well, the non-existent band. Great. Great line. Wait, so is the idea that he thinks, you know what? I bet they did it. Like he does it. I think he fools himself.
Starting point is 02:33:06 He's such a good con person. He cons himself into thinking, you know what? Oh, that's deep. There is a band. That's deep. A thister? A thister. Well, that's a little too much. So is this Labor Day? I thought it was still 4th of July. No, 4th of July was when he first got there.
Starting point is 02:33:47 This all doesn't take place in real time. No, no, no. He didn't get there 4th of July. Well, at a certain point, the mayor says, like, I asked for his references on July 4, 1912. He's saying that on the day. He's saying it on July 4. But remember the lady with the torch? That's like July 4th. But remember the lady with the torch?
Starting point is 02:34:05 That's like July 4th ceremony. That's an Independence Day. No, that first day? Yes. No, that's probably... That's July 4th. I don't think so. Okay, we gotta watch this again. They're gonna catch you if you stay around singing Harold.
Starting point is 02:34:30 But they didn't have a Labor Day back then, I don't think. Oh, that's right. All these holidays that you think, oh, they just always have existed. Also, he's been in that outfit for a while. Other people have changed their clothes around him, but he's been wearing that white suit. So how long do you think this takes? I think he gets there July 4th. I think this is around August 31st. This is like a two month period, I think. I think he gets there in June. Okay. And now it's July 4th. No, this hug is too good. He wouldn't have gotten away anyway.
Starting point is 02:35:06 Okay, so they put handcuffs on him, but they don't take him to jail. No, they take him to the town square where they can vilify him. They take him, yeah, the mayor gets to say what he wants to say. Oh, buddy. I wouldn't be holding that suitcase of area. Remember when he got here on July 4th? What's that guy mad about? He's not going to live long. Her thing went flying and the guy didn't even notice. Well, buddy, he didn't even tell his own wife that it was a con. Really? Rastibution. Look at big fat taft back there. He's the only president who is as fat as all of us.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Oh, murmuring. Who is as mad as all of us? Oh, murmuring. Okay, so he's in handcuffs to execute him. Not arrested. Not arrested, but in handcuffs. He's not arrested. He's just, he's being detained at this point. Where are you getting this information from?
Starting point is 02:36:47 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Even though the one man with a badge put handcuffs on him. I think they're just, they're, they want to, you know, pepper him with questions, put him under the hot lights. Look at that guy's tie. Which guy? This guy. There's 20 men.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Executed. This is great, this part right here. The last thing that happens, I remember it so well. Of course it's gonna be her because she's been on his five. She wanted him to get away, but then you have all of these guys, their lives are so much better. It's true. All of these guys had so much fun
Starting point is 02:37:44 doing all the Grecian bullshit. Everyone else like danced around. You can't hold him responsible for the Grecian bullshit. And then there's one holdout, but you know what? So good. Shropshire sheep. That's a good point. I'd love to see one of the instruction books.
Starting point is 02:38:21 Let's see one of the instruction books. Jump, jump, jump. I mean, he made that happen. So the uniforms are real. Uniforms are real. This is their debut though. That's right. You would think if he had planned, maybe he was gonna be leaving earlier than expected
Starting point is 02:38:42 because they're onto him, but you would think if he had plans to leave, he wouldn't have even ordered the uniforms. Like the instruments are enough. Right. But why not make more money? That's true. Cause he's taking a commission on these. But my, my point is take the commission and then never order the uniforms, pocket all the money for the uniforms and then leave. But look, who knows how long it's going to take
Starting point is 02:39:07 for things to show up. I mean, it's an inexact science. They don't have order tracking on the Wells Fargo wagon. And it looks like shit. Oh, the Wells Fargo wagon looks like shit. It's a lot smaller than you think. Now this is one of the greatest endings, I think, to any movie and any musical.
Starting point is 02:39:33 It's so true to life because you think like, you know he's gonna get away with it, but how did he teach them how to play? She believes in him too. She thinks, you know what? I was skeptical at first. But I think you magically made them be able to do it. But the writer doesn't just cop out and have them play really well. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:58 It sounds like shit. But it's recognizable enough. That's my Barney. That tuba's my Barney. Arguably the worst one. Clariotette. All the parents love their kids so much that they don't care that it sounds like shit. It's so funny.
Starting point is 02:40:34 Who are you, sir? It's good enough, it was recognizable. Ah, so good. So now here's here's a quick. OK, you look so good. So now here's, here's a question. Okay. You look so handsome. You got, he's rehabilitated himself. Here's the, here's the question.
Starting point is 02:40:52 A lot of people have, what was this catchphrase again? Is this a fantasy? This, this part leads you to believe maybe it is a fantasy or is this just a time jump? But she was looking at it as if- As if it was a fantasy, as if she was- Not as if, as if it was real magic that she's seeing happen right in front of her eyes. But I choose to believe that this is just a,
Starting point is 02:41:16 that this is an arty way to do a time jump. Oh, see, I think this is just the way they feel. Could be. Oh, see, I think this is just the way they feel. Could be. Cause it's probably too many people. Yeah, this is way more than people. But I like to think that he actually does end up, by the way, he goes to daylight.
Starting point is 02:41:40 I think he stays. He stays, but I like to think that he, he does lead a band that's relatively competent. So he learns that he knows enough about music because it's daytime now that that leads us to believe in is that the different time. Yes. And that, and that the, the, the clear the street of all the shit, the that the, the, the They've cleared the street of all the shit. The sort of, uh, the link in between those scenes is artfully done. And it does have to do with, with a, a, a fantasy sequence. I agree that it is artfully done.
Starting point is 02:42:21 Props to the music. The prop, the property department, by the way. Big shout out to them. Big shout out to them. All those suitcases. They had to find all these god damn instruments. They didn't have music stores back when this was filmed. No.
Starting point is 02:42:41 You had to find an instrument. Yeah. Music stores weren't a thing until 1978. 77, I think, but you're, yeah, we're both wrong. It was for the bicentennial 1976. They made up music stores. That's right. Oh, Peggy Mondo. Mary Wickens. What else has Mary Wickens been in? She's been in everything. I like this guy's like, Oh my goodness, what? I like that he's just getting out of town now. He's been there for months.
Starting point is 02:43:11 Maybe they arrested him. Years, he's been there long enough for them to become fantastic at their instrument. They probably arrested him just for like, being a troublemaker. The Buffalo Bills. Remember us, where's our other hats? We don't know. Ronnie Howard, Pert Kelton, Monique Vermont.
Starting point is 02:43:33 Ah, these two. Class. Hermione. Pure class. Second most famous Hermione. Buddy Haka doing his bits, crosses his eyes. Come on buddy. Why did we freeze on that?
Starting point is 02:43:51 Because you want to make sure that his eyes were crossed and that the audience laughed really hard. Shirley Jones is, there he is. The horse platoons, eat the ring, thunder ring all along the way. I think that's- He's working on me. A privilege. I think that is a privilege, the spouse of the person leading the band. Here comes the end.
Starting point is 02:44:32 Ah, too big. Shut up, shut up. Too big. Thank God. That was like the train coming at me. The train. Wow. Well, that was wonderful.
Starting point is 02:44:39 I'm glad we watched this together. I'm glad we watched it. Such a good movie. No credits. Well, I guess all the credits happened. Hey, this expires in 45 hours. Do you want to just watch it again and try to figure this out? Let's keep watching it for the next 45 hours.
Starting point is 02:44:52 Wait, what's our new argument? I can't remember. Oh, when did he get there? When did he get there? And when did he leave? How much did he know and when did he know it? Yeah. Unknown unknowns.
Starting point is 02:45:07 Well, that was fun. Thanks for having me. Yeah, that was so fun. Thanks, guys. It's so wonderful to spend time with you. Pills for the road? Yeah, please. Yeah, what do you got?
Starting point is 02:45:16 Mystery. Oh, really? So I don't know what will happen to me. Spin the wheel. All right. Well, thanks, everyone, for listening. Thanks, Brett, for accommodating us here. Thanks, Brett. And for your fact checking for accommodating us here. Thanks Brett.
Starting point is 02:45:25 And for your fact checking as it was going along. Thanks for the fact checking. And thanks to you listeners. I hope we've settled at least part of our argument and we've raised another one apparently. That's right. So we'll do this again next year. We'll do this again every year.
Starting point is 02:45:40 I like, you know, I do watch, It's a Wonderful Life on Christmas Eve every year. Sure. It would be great to watch watch this see if we say the exact same comments. All right, we'll see you bye bye bye.

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