Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - I Can’t Chase 55s (Max Silvestri, Gabe Liedman, Will Hines, Ben Rodgers)

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Seven-timer Max Silvestri is here with Gabe Liedman, who is a first-time guest (although AI begs to differ!). They talk about their new podcast “I Need You Guys,” which they co-host with Jenny Slate. Then it’s time to get serious with freelance bounty hunter Ethan Merc. Finally, be amazed by the repulsive powers of mentalist Arnaud DeBeaubeau! Don’t forget to check out the Comedy Bang! Bang! Action Figures at shop.figurecollections.com and go to actionfigureseller.com for international purchases. If you want more great episodes of Comedy Bang! Bang! become a subscriber at comedybangbangworld.com. We have all of the past episodes from the archives, every live show, ad-free new episodes, and original shows like CBB Presents and Scott Hasn’t Seen. Find more great Comedy Bang! Bang! merch at https://www.podswag.com/collections/comedy-bang-bang Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Gardening bang, bang, bang, comedy bang, bang, comedy bang, comedy bang, comedy bang, comedy bang, comedy, bang, comedy, bang. Gardening is a pretty expensive hobby, when you're bad at it. bang bang. All right, thanks to Fluter Paradine 369 for that catchphrase submission submitted on January 18th of 2023. Thank you so much. Just getting around to it. I hope you're still out there, Fluter. Hope you're still a regular listener and or alive.

And welcome to Comedy Bang Bang for another week. We have a fantastic show. My name is Scott Ackerman. Coming up a little later, we have a mentalist. This is exciting. I don't know that we've ever had a mentalist on the show. I guess we had David Blaine. Is he a mentalist?

I can't remember. Anyway, he does something indescribable, perhaps. We also have someone in law enforcement, very popular these days. So we'll be talking to them a little later. But first, let's get to our guests of honor. This is exciting. They're coming in as a team. You, first of all, you know him from such shows as Penn 15, Q-Force, never have I ever.

A stand-up comedian of much renown. He's entering the exclusive one-timers club. This is incredibly exciting. Please welcome Gabe Liebman. Thank you for finally having me on your long-running show. We'll talk a little bit more about that in a second. Let me introduce your partner in crime. In 2019, this guest performed at a certain comedy festival, I believe, called

the great American Comedy Festival in Lincoln, Nebraska was it Lincoln, Nebraska? It sure was. He performed a 10-minute set that rocked the comedy industry. Opening for Dave Coalier, was it?

Yes, he was the headliner, doing a mix of comedy and sort of telling. To honor Johnny Carson. He parlayed that heat into a 15-minute Netflix special. Mini special is that? Yeah, it's just. It's a special, right?

A quarter hour special. It doesn't matter how long it is. It's special. It's streaming. Yeah. It's the shortest special that's the longest to say. I have an hour special. Okay, that's an hour special.

That's a half hour special. Well, that's a little longer to say. Yeah. Quarter hour special. 15 minutes is what I would say. Did it go the whole 15 minutes or did you do 10? With credits and the music and stuff. Yeah, yeah.

It was basically the 10 that you did opening for Cooleyet. Yeah. And then I took questions about Dave Cooley and Johnny Carson. Okay. off camera and then he has been on this show several times to talk about that I want to hear if there are any updates

he's entering the exclusive seven timers club please welcome Max Silvestri wow thanks for having me back to maybe even arguably do more than just talk about that set this time I don't know about that but let's talk to Gabe first okay Gabe I had sworn that you

You were on the show before. You would think. I would think. You have so many great comedians on your show. So I looked it up. I said, let me see what timers club he's entering. Is it two? Is it three?

Here's the AI overview when I entered your name in comedy bang, bang. Okay. Comedian and writer Gabe Leedman is a frequent and well-regarded guest on the Comedy Bang Bang Podcast. No. Oh, thank God. He has appeared both as himself and his various characters on the show. Oh, my God.

Thank God. Key details about that. Leibman's association with comedy bang bang. Characters and improvisation. Like many guests, Leibman has showcased his improvisational skills by creating memorable characters. Such as. In an episode titled Franklin and Bash, he appeared alongside Scott Ackerman and others. Okay.

And that was John Levinstein's podcast. Just a completely different thing. Perennial favorite in 2014. In a 2014 decider article, he was described as a perennial favorite on comedy bang bang. I love that. Acknowledging his established status as a. a welcomed and beloved guest what the fuck is this slaying the elephant in the room by acknowledging his preferred status decider has been hacked we know that no one is safe well welcome back to the show

it's a pleasure to have you back i love being here i love playing characters here i love being myself here we don't have characters on the show i don't know what that was referencing got it got it got it yeah but it's it's wonderful to have comedians on as well as people from all walks of life that's right that's what I meant. And it's wonderful to have you on. I've been a big fan of yours for a long time. And yet, the stars have never aligned. I know.

It's weird. Mainly, I don't have any of your contact information. Well, you could probably guess it. Okay. To be honest. I think probably everyone else out there probably could too. Yeah. But yeah, I guess the stars haven't aligned, but they finally have.

And I think we're set up to do something great today. Fantastic. And now, Max, let's go, let's turn our gaze backwards. of it, to 2019. 2019. You are booked on a certain comedy festival. The Great American Comedy Festival, I believe is what it was called. And you are flown out there.

Was it a PJ? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. No, no. I was given an Avis voucher. Whoa. Yeah, for mid-sized sedan and smaller. Did you drive out there?

No. I was just given an Avis. sedan, and then I took an economy ticket. Just in case. It was an all-in, an all-in offer. That's awesome. Which I think means you just, you cover your own. Cover your, yeah.

It sounds like it's going to be, like an all-in offer does sound if you're... CYT. Yeah, you think, oh, you've gotten a $500 all-in offer. Right. To go to the Great American Comedy Festival. Sounds like a resort where you're going to get everything. I'm going to do so many bottom shelf margaritas. Yeah.

They're going to have to score me out of there with a gun. But instead, that just meant that you pay for everything. I see. That's a small check that they send you. I see. So did you come out in the black or in the red? Do you recall? You know, I think if you were to just think of that distinction from a monetary perspective, which many do.

Sure. Which many say like, I may have asked about that. But I feel like now looking, you know how when they say like, oh, a movie didn't do well at the box office? What they're really looking at is like, okay, after eight weeks, it didn't make its budget back with, like, ticket sold at the box office. But if you look long-term in the way that the movie then gets sold to HBO, re-airs, has DVD issues, you're like, well, actually, long-term. Long-term, it actually was a good, safe investment.

As was your 10 minutes at the Lincoln, Nebraska Festival, because you took, everyone was talking about it, first of all. You came on this show before it happened to plug it. Yep. You came on the show a couple months later to talk about how it went. Yep. Everyone, I mean, the whole city was a buzz. Yeah.

We honored its five-year anniversary last year. So people are still talking about it. People are still talking about it. And then you capitalized on this in such a canny way by then getting a special. A special? Yes. That was 50% longer than the set. I mean, I do think, look, you could put your money in a savings account at the bank and make, what?

percent per year. Sure. If you're lucky. But you've got to look for those moments in the market where you can rapidly accumulate wealth influence cash-o. Exactly. This was my crypto moment where I said like I probably should only be doing an 11-minute special based on what I've pulled off in Lincoln.

But now with the buzz, I can go all in. I love that. And do 15. And you and Coulier are still very close. Extremely. Yes. So that paid off huge. You are the bald cap along with John Stamos when you visited him in the hospital.

Did you not? Let's bring the picture out. Yeah, let's get the picture out. The three of you. So, you know, a lot of pictures you're cropped out because you're not quite a hand gesture I was making. And it's not the first two you'd guess. But no, so Dave and I still have a very fruitful relationship that I kind of think of as the money I got from that.

Like anytime he needs to give a speech at like a policeman's union dinner or more, you know, a battered children's home or something like that, I'm. doing jokes. They have homes for them. They do. Yeah. They shouldn't be in their main one. That's for sure. That's for sure.

I would think you would be a home full of kids with large, you know, other problems too. But it's just, you know. Yeah, but they're like little problems. No, they have their own needs, like real soft furniture, stuff like that. Okay. Now, have you, we talked about this in the five-year anniversary. Yep.

Have you been invited back to Lincoln, Nebraska to celebrate? I. Because, Because I would, and we talked about this a little bit a year ago, I would love to moderate a panel about this, about this incredible set. Yeah. We put it in the air just a year ago. We put it in the air and nothing. Yeah.

Bupkis. Haven't heard a single thing. I was wondering, I haven't spoken to you in a year. Yeah. I was wondering if maybe you'd heard something. Are they going behind Scott's back? Right. To organize this.

Yeah. They're like, let's have it moderated by someone we can afford. Yeah. Someone who's willing to drive their own car out there. Right. I, here's what I think, because I was hoping the same thing would happen. I was like, you know, this is a nice opportunity as we round the corner into the sixth anniversary of this set to do something with me.

And what I've also, I think, brought to the festival's awareness, because I think we ended up helping each other quite a bit. Sure. I don't think anyone has talked about that festival as much as we have. Absolutely not. Ever. Ever. Absolutely not.

I think that there were some hurt feelings because at the end of the day, this festival is about raising the profile. of Johnny Carson's legacy. And you, it seems like perhaps your fame is eclipsing his at this point. It does feel that way. It's much more current. Yeah, yeah, for sure, you know.

Anything going on with your childhood home? Has that been cordoned off at all? Like, oh, no, this is a historical preserved site. My mom did redo the carpets in the townhouse she bought after I moved away. So in some ways, I do feel like, oh, this is, you know, special space. What'd she do with, what'd she redo? Like, redo, like, replace them or she

took the existing carpets and somehow spruced them up? Yeah. She painted them in her basement studio. So now they're just, they're, they're, it's kind of tacky. I love that. I love that. Wow. Like frosting. Um, no, I mean, I, because I'm current, Johnny is trying to, and when I say Johnny, I mean, the stewards of his legacy. He's long dead. Right. Sure. But he left explicit instructions in his will, I would imagine, of what to do, who to invite to this festival. Yeah, like how many steam trays of barbecue to serve at the lunch at his childhood home, stuff like that. I just think it's like he's clinging on to some sort of primacy that's just not his.

I almost feel bad for him. It's sort of pathetic. I do, yeah, I feel really bad for Johnny Carson. It's embarrassing at this point. It's weird. He's being weird. Yeah. So I think if I were.

to hear right now, like, if I already get a text from the festival, organizers, an emergency text. Like, one that, like, do you have the sound on for texts from? They're added to my group that breaks through everything. It's basically my wife, my mother, and then the festival. The person, folks. So if suddenly we hear a noise, a pinging noise or something, we know it's the festival, or your wife or your mother.

Yeah. And, but if you were to get one right now, what would you say? I would say that I've moved on. I have a new speaking of talk show and my new of my own kind of my own Carson thing with my friends Gabe and Jenny. That's right. So I don't have room to just honor a guy who used to do it because I'm doing it right now. Because you're doing it right now. There should perhaps some people are saying that there should be a festival in your honor one day.

I would go. Yeah. Yeah. Would you perform at it or? I would think about it. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see where I end up in the lineup.

Okay. Let's say that I'm mowed down by a truck, leaving this. Could you just be hit by a truck? Like, mowed down. I think he wants to be scraped a little bit. Yeah, I want up to back up after, like, thinking it was okay. But then that's when they make it worse. If you're ever in an accident, you think you hit something, back up just to check.

To look out your window, yeah. Real herky jerky. So I'm gone, and obviously a festival is planned to honor, like, both what I did, but also what we were robbed of by me. Sure. What you could have done. Exactly. And you and Gabe were in charge with organizing a Q&A. In charge of organizing it, but not participating in it? That's your choice.

I guess we'll work out who's moderating. Okay. How are we going to work this out? You're getting 2,000. Rochambeau? Yeah, I guess. So my wife is giving you guys a check for $2,000 to spend. It's all in.

However you want to, and that's venue stuff. You can pay yourself. Avis stuff. Whatever you want. When you say venue stuff, what do you talk? Like, we have to rent the venue? It's all in. Wow.

So venue stuff, I mean, I would think that would be taking care of like, hey, this is not the way I've arranged. We're going to do cash bar. Okay. A hundred percent. And that can go back towards you guys or actually shoes to help my family. But ultimately, what other guests are you asking to come on and speak? Coolie. Wait, is this like a memorial service for you?

Or I just thought we would do a Q&A or something. You want us to take, I mean, I don't even. and know who your friends are, honestly. Well, Cooleet is there. Cooley, okay. We can get Coolea, yeah. Yeah, and you can absolutely just softball questions about the show that I'm full house, full house, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was hard to choose which in the history of the mediums. Like, what are the show, Johnny Carson show? Yeah. There are other shows. No, it doesn't have to be, like, I didn't know Johnny personally, but they chose me to honor his memory with a 10-minute set. So who who's keeping your legacy alive today?

Thank you. Us, I guess. I guess. Yeah. And the truck driver. Yeah, we can get him involved. Yeah, he's put you on the map. Literally.

Yeah. Okay, this sounds good. Yeah, this sounds great. I'm just saying that if something were to happen, you kind of now have the receipts, as they say. That's not how they use it or how they say it. But you don't know what I would like, which is we know your wishes. Yeah, he doesn't need a will. Yeah, this is a living will.

This podcast will serve as a living will for Max Silvestri. If you're my legal Zoom representative listening to this, you can delete the document that I create. Yeah, do you want to get any of your other details of your will out here since this is, I guess, the podcast of record? I want my baby to live in Seattle. Oh, yeah. So someone's got to, even my wife survives. That's kind of a big one. Got to move there?

So you guys don't live in Seattle currently. No, no, no. We have no family in Seattle. I just think it's beautiful in the summer. Pike Place catching fish. And you don't want to move there. Just if you were to die. Yeah, if I were to die, I think it would be a great way to honor me.

Okay. catch the fish in the summer. Catch a Mariners game? The view of the... Sure. So much sound. So much to catch there. There is a lot of catching.

Mariners games. Do you mean fish from the guys throwing it around in the pike place market? Of course I do. Yeah. What else would you think I meant? Where else do they catch fish? I don't know. I was imagining like...

Oh, like fisherman? Your wife going out into the ocean and then throwing a fish at your baby. Obviously, the main way to catch fish is in a newspaper as a tourist at the Pike Place market. That's what everyone's mind goes to. Yeah. And then the second way might be in a boat to feed your family. And you go in Gum Alley and you stick it up on the boat.

Oh, yeah. Dry it out nice. Come back a couple weeks later. That's the life I want for my infant. Well, this is great. I hope that we hear something from the festival just for closure on our parts because we're going to keep doing this, I think, every year until we hear from them. And, uh, but, but, you know, let's put all of that aside and talk about what's going on

currently with you both because it would surprise. no one to know that you currently have a project together. Whoa. You've worked separately in the past, yet you've been such close friends. You have, you have entered into the podcast game. Is this true? Would you say we're right on time? I think so. I mean, now you're peers, your colleagues of mine. Do you remember kind of talking us out of a podcast, like maybe 13 or 14 years ago? I don't, really? Yeah. When was this?

Was this when we went to... You didn't talk us out. Like, you were encouraging and you were like, you know, you were the, as you remain the comedy podcast, you know, pro-godfather. Podfather is an easier way to say that. Oddfather? Podfather. Podfather. Did you say odd father?

You're our odd father. That's how we all think of it. Was this when we went to dinner in Venice that one time? Maybe it was. And there was an email where it's like, you know, I do this, you know, Gabe and Jenny and I. Like, we do this chatty, fun live show in New York, and it feels like it would make sense to do as a podcast. You emailed me this? Yeah, I probably could find it.

Okay. I won't. Yeah, but, um, no, but you were just like, you guys really should think harder about, in an encouraging way. Yeah. This is you trying to develop and do the work. Do the work. You're like, what is the show? Like, what is it each week?

And is it about guests? Is there segments? You kind of need something. Right. Sounds like stuff that I would say when I'm trying to get people out of my way in terms. It definitely didn't feel like there were collaborative action items at the end of the email. Here's what you need to do in order for me to pay for, that's what I'm assuming you wanted, is me to open up my checkbook and pay you guys to do a podcast.

Is that what this is? Kind of. Yeah, probably, yeah. Bias microphones? I don't know. It wasn't a heavy lift. I wasn't taking you out of dinner. Buying microphones is a heavy lift.

Yes. If you knew the fucking all of the hassle it took to get these in here. Well, these are. They're beautiful. These are stunning. These are so much. Gold, covered in gold. But no, it was, you were a little like, it's a, it's a, it's a hard, it's harder

than it seems, which of course it is. It's a saturated market. True. So you really got to. And this was 13 years ago. Yeah. So we let it fill up a little more. Uh-huh.

We, yeah. We waited until it was so, like, oversaturated fat, like a balloon about to explode. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a little meniscus. Finally. On top. And maybe my advice back then made sense and it doesn't now.

The podcast game has changed in 13 years because now what is the concept of your show? It's called I Need You Guys. Yeah. What is the concept? The concept is this is our way of keeping in touch now that we're adults, that we live our lives separately. Our co-host, Jenny Slate. She lives on the East Coast now and this is a way of keeping like a 20. She said the F word on SNL once, right?

She did. Yeah. it came right out that's what she's famous for right yeah yeah and since then she's been taking it easy yeah yeah yeah she's ultimately been making amends to children and she's still on the show right yeah exactly yeah it takes a long time that was 10 years or so ago it was I mean she's still on the show they just don't show her right because she's so busy apologize yeah yeah yeah um she checks all the cue cards to make sure it that works not on there again um oh that was what happened it was on the cue cards it was so it's not her fault

Why didn't she ever throw the Q-card guy under the bus? Because he's got a family. Oh, he's got a family. 15 kids from 16 moms. Incredible. Wow. So he was a donor for a gay couple? Yeah, a couple, yeah.

But only one worked out. Okay. If that makes sense. Okay. Yeah, so this podcast is us kind of relying on each other to live our adult lives. Yes. Coming to the table. with questions. How would you guys handle this kind of situation? We also let listeners ask us questions

and give very... How nice of you. Non-expert advice. Yeah. People weirdly look up to us. It's a low concept podcast, which I think 13 years ago maybe didn't make sense all that much. And now is refreshing. It is. My other show, Threatom is, that's what we do. It's just three friends talking. An institution. And nowadays, I would say, it's all based on the personalities. And if people like you, then they'll follow, they'll follow your show anywhere. That's what we're hoping. We wanted to make sure that there was no money in the game anymore. Yes.

And then we jumped right in. With every company, every company closing as well. Exactly. Yeah. Because if there was money to, I would be so distracted with getting it. Counting it. And being like, this work equals money. Seeing what color it is.

The coins can be so loud. I don't know how you address that. We wanted to wait until it was just the love of the game. And you know what? We weren't ready 13 years ago. That's right. I would say that's probably, that was the, the kind of subtext of my email.

Yeah. You're not ready. You're not ready. It was a long email. I think it was super text. It felt like you might have even headlined the paragraphs and underlined a part and be like, why you're not ready. And then it was,

then it was like more conversational, but the summary parts were brutal. So I wrote, I wrote this email to you. There was like notes on our bodies. I had a laser pointer to. Yeah. But I wrote this email.

Did you ever respond to it? And, but whatever happened, you guys decided not to go forward right yeah i remember that we're responding right now yeah this is you had that was good advice Gabe Gabe was going to respond the second he came on the pod yeah yeah it just took a while yeah waiting for that invite my yeah yeah yeah were you CCed on this do I actually have your info it's possible let me look actually I'm gonna look up this first of all this email and just see if do I have your customer service at target I got it right

there. I have, I have, it looks to be like 20 emails from you. Please, please, please. Can I be on your show? I'm begging you. I think a lot of, let's see, some of them have to do with award shows. Uh-huh. The Spirit Awards. Yep. The Golden Globes. Sure. Yeah, I wrote some golden globes. For Andy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was in Tokyo that year, but I was sending in jokes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But all your jokes are about Tokyo so they couldn't. Right. It didn't make sense. A lot of the movies weren't about Tokyo that year. Yeah, movie presenters, but I'm looking for...

Anything personal in there? Oh, visiting NYC Comic here. Oh, that, okay, this we could talk about. Okay, so you... Can I please do your live show? Here we go, this is to do the live show. This is in 2009. Can I please do your live show in 2009?

What do you... I would have loved to have had you on. What did I say? What happened? Oh, I never... I never replied. Oh, oh, oh, no, I didn't. I said, hey, I'm not booking that far in advance yet.

Whoa. Usually it was the last minute, like, the week of. That's so cool. And you were emailing me to say you were coming out in two months. Okay. And I said, I'm not booking that far in advance. Can you resend this email in 2010, the future? And you said, 100%.

That's easy. And then you emailed in 2009 still. Yeah. And said, following up. Yeah. And then I never responded. That's right. Yeah.

Okay. So can I do it? Well, you know. I don't really book that anymore because I didn't write me back. Embar got weird or whatever. Oh, actually, and by the way, I think I was doing the first season of my TV show then, too. I think I was filming then. Congratulations.

It's just not a good time for the game. Well, I'll follow up. I'll follow up. But man, you've had this email address for a while. Yeah. And so have you. Yeah. Yeah.

Let me look for Max's email here. I was looking. I couldn't find, I just want to say you were, you were polite and you were just asking us to. And correct, ultimately. Yeah, of course. And honestly, I didn't really know you all that well. No, not at all.

No, it was generous of you to even offer feedback. You hadn't run, you hadn't been to Lincoln yet. The earliest, earliest email I have from you is 2011. Mm-hmm. And you said, happy birthday to me. Aw. Hmm. In 2011, you said it was nice hanging out last week.

What are we do in 2011? Oh, yeah, here we go. 2011. Hey, sounds interesting. Can you give me a rundown of the concept idea of the show? Barf. Oh, you know what? Maybe we got on the phone.

Okay, this makes sense. I don't like to leave a paper trail. I wrote a couple sentences up, and it was. they were loose they were like we're friends in new york and we have a lot of show and now we're trying to monetize it yeah hey max i have thoughts about this if you want to hop on the phone i could i mean that's generous of all of this is generous and this is in 2011 yep so when i'm when i'm doing the second season of my television show it was like about it was about like two years after you ghosted me yeah if that just to put it into perspective helps you remember kind of maybe a year and

half. Yeah. We got on the phone and you were like, how married are you to Gabe Leibman being as part of this? Right. Because I intentionally never got back to him a year and a half ago. As the keeper of the gate, I have some thoughts. This show should just turn into reading old email, old business emails between friendly peers.

Absolutely. Totally. There was no hard feelings, but I just do feel like it's nice to come on. It seems like you're the only one who remembers this occurring and you intentionally didn't do your show because of whatever feedback I gave you. because it just seemed hard and now it's easy no yeah and thank you I don't think our friendship would have survived that we had to do the entrepreneurial work oh my god if we had to do the like work of this industry on our own nowadays your your friendship is rock solid you can yes yes we know who

we are traverse through the podcasting game we know who's gonna take care of what yeah we're not we're not like nervously thinking we are all something we're not we're just you know one of you is not going to respond to emails right I'm not going to be good at scheduling. Correct. Which one of that is you? We're both okay at scheduling. I've gotten better about responding to emails.

I used to have the like, guys, I promise I'll get back to this in two weeks. I'm setting time. I'm putting, you know, that kind of like next Friday, everything clears up for me. I have a friend who, by the way, anytime I contact him, he responds within 30 seconds. And I find it refreshing because we all pretend that we don't have these devices in our hands all the time. where we're getting the messages, emails, or text immediately, and we're not looking at it within five seconds of it being sent. We should just respond.

But instead, we put it aside going like, that'll keep, I don't want to seem too thirsty. Yeah. And then you forget about it for weeks. Yeah. I'm going to write an absolute essay tonight. Yes, that's the one where I'm like, this deserves more of a response.

And then I never hit around to it. It's like double hurts. Right. I got to really put some thought into this one. Exactly. And he sent you an email, do you think I should wipe my teeth? And you're like, okay. I need to sit with this.

Really do a pros and cons list. What is he looking to hear? What should he hear? Well, yeah, we now know everybody's weaknesses and it no longer upsets us. That's good. That's the main thing is that it's just like, it doesn't, Jenny's going to always be bad at computers. Her computer is never going to work. Yep.

The tech is not going to work. And is this via Zoom? Because Jenny lives in New York, is that right? And you're both in Los Angeles. So it's over Zoom. Are you guys in the same room or all three? We're all in. zoom in our in our comfort okay and yeah yeah that's that's the sign of a nice comfortable podcast

where you can be on zoom and yeah and not have to worry about things like timing and yeah parking stuff like that parking yeah i hate listening to a podcast going where did these people park where do they park was it stressful when they got there yeah like it was for me to do gabriss and and adam palli show recently and the the i wanted to get validated uh from serious and they said oh no the gates open and then i went down there and the goddamn gate was closed and I had to call them and then someone had to come down. Are they at the headgum thing where you got to like park at an angle on sunset? RIP.

RIP. Oh really? Oh, I have no idea. Seems so many. Who knows? Yeah. But this is a this is a serious podcast which also is a copro with smartless. Yeah, smartless media. Yes, exactly.

Kind of the, you know, three people, three friends. Are you part of the phone plan thing? No, but Sean Hayes did plug it. Yeah. On an episode of our show. He plugged the phone plane. He sure did. On your show.

Yeah. Right. Kind of like with a natural segue. I mean, he's a very professional guy. Yeah. And it was like, winking, but also, he was plugging it. He fucking lands at it. Winking like with both eyes or?

Because that's just a blink. Sorry, he was nodding off. Yes. He was going to sleep. But you wouldn't have heard it in his voice. Yeah, wink and blinking and not. That's what he did. Well, this show is out there right now.

A few episodes out already. I need you guys. is the show. And you have guests on? We do. And is it a guest every week or is it right now until we burn bridges? Yeah. But yeah, our first couple episodes, we have John Mullaney. Probably take a week after Cooleyer because there'll be a lot to sort of talk about. Yeah, that's a two-partner. Yeah. Like Gallagher on WTF. Yeah. You want to sort of like do the post-mortem on that. Also, I think I think WTF ended. So you guys are getting in right at the right time. Yeah. You could be the podcast of record where, you know, you chase after, you know,

old comics who are hacks and current presidents. Yeah, Bruce Springsteen or whatever. I can't wait to see who's president next because we're going to talk to them. Yep. Yeah, I think so. Well, I need you guys. It's out there right now. Several episodes are out currently.

You can get it wherever podcasts are sold. How much are you selling these for? Is this like 16 an episode? Yeah. 17 an episode? Well, it's 1599. 15. Oh, that's smart.

But it's basically 16. Okay, got it. Yeah. 16 bucks an episode. It's a steal at twice the price. we're going to take a break. We have a mentalist coming up. That's exciting, right? And we also have someone in law enforcement. Yeah. So it's a good show. This is exciting. Can you guys stick around? I would love to. Yeah. I'm going to. Okay, great. I will too. Okay, great. All right. We're

going to be right back with more Max Silvestri. More Gabe Liebman. We'll be right back with more Comedy Bang Bang Bang. We're back. Max Silvestri and Gabe Liebman. The podcast is I need you guys with co-hosted by Jenny Slate, who is an old, old friend of yours. How long have you guys known each other? I met Jenny in Y2K. Whoa. So that puts us on the dot 25 years.

Incredible. Yeah. And Max? About 20, 21. Yeah, yeah. And did you meet them as a team? As a romantic couple. As a romantic couple.

A married couple. Yeah, and I was trying to get in there. Right. You were a unicorn. And it still might happen. The tension drives, I think, our show. Yeah. It's such a bummer that you have, you know, the, like, one woman a month, whatever.

Like, it just didn't work out for January. One woman a month policy? Yeah, on the show, it would have been great to have her on. It's usually works out great. I try, you know, I know you guys wanted her on, but unfortunately, I never responded to the email. Right, right. You'll get around to it. Yeah.

We need to get to our next guest. He's in law enforcement. Do you guys, have you ever met anyone in law enforcement, ever been in trouble with the law at all? I've been pulled over. Yeah, I did like an illegal car wash in... Whoa. Yeah. No, like a legal bikini car wash?

Whoa. The bikinis were too modest. That's why we got. Okay. So it was like a scam was what made it illegal. They were the old style bathing costumes. Oh. The 20s with the stripes.

I would have been pissed as well. No, we were like ninth graders trying to wash people's cars. at a stoplight with no permit and kind of just screaming at the cars and yelling at them if they wouldn't let us rub a dirty rag and then cops pulled in the parking lot to yell at us and ran over my friend's foot whoa yeah and then there was a lawsuit did they say sorry oh there was a lawsuit yeah because they crushed his foot wow yeah but we were doing the bad stuff but then ran over a child's foot damn did it get huge like a like a cartoon it throb with his heartbeat yeah well let's get to him uh he is in law enforcement please

welcome Ethan Merck. Scott. Thanks for having me on. Hi, great to have you on. Yeah, pleasure to meet you. This is Max, this is Gabe. Max, Gabe. It's great to meet you.

Yeah, nice to meet you. This podcast you guys are doing sounds great. Oh, thanks. You should subscribe. Okay, I'll do it. Can you smash that like button? Sure, is it required that I hit it with such intensity, or could I just tap it neutrally? I would go hard.

Yeah, I'd prefer you smash. You want to feel it. You want to feel it. You want to feel it. Yeah, you should startle the people in the library. That's how I feel. I'm a smartless completest, so I'll be all over that. So how do you like Gaboris and Pally show?

It's terrific. Finally, Gabris is letting loose. I'm a huge John Gabris fan, and my big complaint about him so far is he rains it in too much. Yes. Too much filter. Yeah. Great to see him taking off the leash. It's great.

It's great. And Palli's just a lovely guy that I talk to all the time. Well, it's great to have you, Ethan. Yes, thank you. Law enforcement, in what capacity are you enforcing the law? Law enforcement's sort of been in my lifelong career. Right now, I am a bounty hunter. Oh, wow.

Freelance. Nice. For hire. To return bad guys. Right. To either law enforcement agencies or sometimes directly to the wronged parties. Whoa. For the wronged party to do what to them?

If someone has gone beyond the reach of the law or to a point where the law is no longer interested. Right. My service is already. available to bring these people to justice. Wow. This sounds, and pardon me, maybe you guys aren't getting this sense, but I'm really good, after 16 years of the show, I'm really good at reading people. I can tell. I feel deeply seen. This sounds a little weird. Oh, okay. Honestly, so far, I feel like this is straight and normal. Well, no, I mean, it's... I feel like I'm right along the... I mean, you ask any bounty hunter, you're going to get a similar answer. But I as a private citizen,

if I have a disagreement with my wife, I guess. And then, believe me, that's often how it starts. I can pay you money to have her physically brought back to me. That is correct. Because I told you. You've hired me. You've shared my services. Told you with money, but like, do I have to show you proof?

This sounds like, it sounds like kidnapping to me. Well, perhaps, you know, we're going to nitpick and try to... I don't mean to be pedantic about things, but... Please don't be pedantic. The ransoms up front is what was... I'll say that I do a little vetting to see if it feels like there is... If in my opinion it feels just. What are you talking about when you say you do a little bit?

The fee ranges, but we're talking usually several thousand dollars. No, I mean, what type of stuff do you do to vet them, not how much it costs? Oh, sorry. Never been good at sales. I jumped right to the... Yeah, I don't get... I mean, look, I don't... Just think about it.

A couple of grand. think I'm hiring you, honestly. Okay, just a couple grand would be just to have a, you know, for something easy, quick and easy. What's quick and easy? Quick and easy is if the target is slow. If there's evidence that the target is easy to get it. Like if I had clear sight lines to her.

If you had clear sight lines and it's like your wife and I don't know anything about your wife, so this is about a hypothetical version. But were you to do the vetting, you would see how slow or fast. How easily getable she seemed to be? Is she living a life mostly, you know, on the lamb? How are you ascertaining this? Are you going on their Instagram page seeing if there's any videos or reels,

I guess they call them, of her running? Yeah, sure. That'd be great. If there's Instagram reels of them actually running to scale with something that I can measure, that's the idea. When you say to scale,

what do you mean like next to a pencil? Yeah, like the bone collector, like a dollar bill so you understand. Exactly. Next to something where I know. Just like the bone collector! Well, for example, if your wife's running in a meadow, okay, next to just a bunch

of rocks, I don't know what's going on. She could be 50 feet tall. The rocks could be running. Right. You know, we have a lot of rings. I mean, I have so much of this footage. Well, then this would be great. A ring security footage of her running flat out as hard as she can

out the front door in the middle of the night. Really? Oh, yeah. Well, because, you know, we get into it and we start yelling and stuff. I mean, this is a lot of what's... A lot more common to protect the neighbors because you don't want to be so loud and wake them up. Yeah, I send a next door alert being like, it's not an animal. It's, you know, my wife not understanding that I had plans already.

I think it's a lot more common than you think. Got it. People might be embarrassed to say that their wife's running out in the middle of the night multiple times on camera. Very common. Very common. I would, in fact, say that in my own anecdotal estimation, 95% of couples experience repeated runnings out in the middle. If they're coming to you, though. If they're coming to me.

Which means they already have a problem. Okay. So it's a little bit self, you know, I'm self-selecting down. People who have contacted. It's not like you're out there being contacted by people's sake like, hey, by the way, I have no problem this. week. I didn't, yeah. I don't want to hire you. Right. There's no control group that I'm in touch with. I'm not doing a really extensive census, but of the people who find me. Right. And get in touch with me. 95% of them are in a situation where a loved one or business associate is running away. Okay. Yeah. And I, but I want to feel, I'm on the right side here. Of course. I'm going after bad guys. And you said you do some vetting to figure out if they're bad people. I do some vetting to see, hey, is this something worth getting involved in? Do I feel right about it? No, you said, you said, I said that you did vetting to see if they were bad people, not if it's worth it to you to get involved in it. It's both, actually.

I mean, like, is it going to be worth my time? What's the publicity going to be for this? Can I get it? Am I going to get a good reference after? And also, do I stand by it morally? Right. That makes sense. Gabe, I've never met you before in my life.

But you're a comedian. You're in the entertainment business. That's right. I bet you've stabbed some backs. I bet you had your backstead. I have. There you go. So you've had emails unreturned to you?

I have been ghosted and I have ghosted. So there you go. You've been on both sides. So if one of these cases was ever costing you so much emotional trauma or money and you needed to get a bounty hunter involved, I would be somebody you'd like to get it. But then you'd have to convince me that you were wronged. Right. Like if I wanted you to track down like the person who hosts like a live comedy show in in Los Angeles. Okay.

Hosted. And by the way, just booked. Right. I wouldn't even perform. I was doing this out of the good. For free. Out of the goodness of my heart. You'd have to convince me that you were.

an extremely wronged party in that situation. Now, I did just hear the facts of this case that you are so coyly alluding to do. Yeah, what do you think? I feel like it's right down the middle. Right down the middle. If they go either way. I could have followed up one more time, couldn't I have? I mean, you were sort of asking a favor out of nowhere from someone you didn't have a real deep

relationship with and you got ghosted, which is a little real. I don't even know if you gave any references. Oh, I can guarantee you I did not. I think you just said you were a comedian. Yeah. Which you could, let me see extremely true. You said visiting. Did he say? in a funny way.

You probably get emails like this all the damn time. That's kind right there. That's a point in your favor. Self-deprecation. You gave no references, though. I don't know why I would have. You just said you were a comedian. Yeah.

I mean, right now, honestly, I feel that Mr. Ackerman was a bit more wronged and put upon. Just a titch. So not enough for me to get involved. Okay. But were I to come to you and say, I want to hire you to go grab Gabe here? Yeah. Because I've been wronged because... I would need a little more.

I would need a little more. I told him to follow up in 2010. and he's kept it in 2009. Yeah, it was like the last few days of 2009. Let's say that you were haunted by his initial email. When is he going to get back in touch? Right. Sort of like a nagging open thing.

Yeah, tell-tell heart kind of situation. Yeah, maybe that could be something. I would need to see that, I would need to understand the damage. Got it. And in both cases, the other person would have needed to physically run. Like, you are on social media or on YouTube or something like that. I'm just saying that happens a lot. I'm part of what my.

My fee is, I didn't mean to get so much into the logistics, guys, but part of what my fee is, how hard is this going to be for me to get them? Right. And a lot of that is funny. You can do the hard work, though? You can complete it. I can do the hard work. Okay. By the way, I'm reminded, by the way, of another comedian that I need to respond to to me on this show.

That emailed me three days ago. We live in the age of multitasking. Our screens are never away. Go ahead. Feel free and do it. No, that's okay. I'm remembering it now and I'm going to get back to them. That's, well.

And if not, you've got. this live recording you can send to them. That's right. This is my living will in a way. Comedian, you know who you are? Look, you might be on the show next week, and we'll talk about it, but I doubt it. Yeah. Can I ask a bounty, honey?

Your experience. And your anecdotal experience. I'd love it. Yeah, I'd love it. Question. Yeah, sure, sure. You're saying $1,000 or $2,000, like, for a certain level of rough. Yeah, that's a slow person.

That's an entry fee. There could be more. There's more, there's more, there's more expensive. That's what I'm curious about. Like, let's say. It's $3,000 for the initial consult. Absolutely. Let's say my wife has run to Seattle.

I don't know where in Seattle she is, but I know. From what I know about you, you love this, right? Well, you love your baby to grow up there. Not your wife to run away there. Right, but it's the flip side. It's sort of like what you love is what you hate. You wife's run away to Seattle, all right. And what is, what is, and you know you have to go look for her there.

You're in LA, we're meeting. How much information do you need, do you need her address or like, can you do the legwork and find? As much as you got, name, social security number would be great, of course, like that. Do you know your wife's social security number? I do not. I don't know mine either. You're fighting uphill already. I know both of your wives.

What? What are your expenses a day? And like beyond gas, what are you spending money on and how much of that would be my responsibility? Before you get too far ahead where I think you're going, I would need any evidence of wrongdoing at all from this woman. Well, she left her husband. She's married to have made a commitment to on the beach in front of Gabe Levin and all there. In front of God. Yeah.

In front of actually my co-host. I need you guys, Gabe and Jenny, who married us. Yes, we were the officiant. The co-rabbys. So she didn't only betray me. She wronged my business partners, Gabe and Jenny. This is good info. All right.

I'm feeling this sounds like a real rap master. What are we? 49, 51% percent? I feel like 51% chance of being a, you know, 50-50 of these two who's bad? She's 51%. She's probably a little worse. So far, I'm on that side. You should know she's...

I got, I'd be honest, I needed to go like to 60. I can't just go on a 51% chance of it. Shit. What else? So you're like Sammy Hagar in that regard. I can't, yeah, I can't chase 55. Okay Right?

That's the song But assuming I give you the evidence you need And I could obviously find emails That just cast her in an insane light for you If you pick and choose This guy's amazing at finding emails That cast people in terrible ones Yeah, without the context surrounding

So let's say you've gotten to 60% Whatever you need to sleep at night Are we talking like What sort of lunches are you buying yourself? I just this is my money Serviceable Servicable Are we talking like gas station

sandwiches? witches. That's what I'm, okay. I'm going to say a waiter is going to hand it to me, but it doesn't got to be a waiter. That's my standard. So we're talking tips? That'd be a tip. Yeah, but I mean, it could be we're talking. It could be TGIF Fridays. It could be, you know, something, something nice and music. But not Chipotle, like, not counter service. Not fast casual. Not fast casual. You know, I would do Chipotle. Chipotle are high. It's pretty good. Chipotle are.

Chipotle are higher. Chipotle are higher. Well, Chipotle has fresh ingredients. That's right. They're included. I'd be happy with the Chipotle. Let's say that level lunch. Meals. Nope, but. Pollo loco? Okay. Pollo loco? Sorry. The authentic Spanish talk switched me into Spanish mode. Do you speak multiple language?

You must in order to do this job. You're constantly crossing the border, I imagine. I can't do it conscious. It's only when somebody just flips the switch. I'm Jason Bourne-style. I can break into a language. I didn't expect. Oh, sorry, I'm exhausted.

You have the water here? Don't need it. Listen. It was like when, you know, way you read about like where someone has like an epileptic seizure and they wake up and they can speak Mandarin. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it was such an, you never expected that.

That was crazy to witness it. Anyway, at, uh, Poyoloko, uh, sorry, I can't even say with it. Puyoloko. God damn it. Yeah. Yeah, sure. I love it. I love it. But I'd probably go higher.

I mean, like, listen, I'm not going to be. You love it. And you would deny yourself the pleasure? I think I'd go. I think I could do better. I, you setting? I think any place where there's a. I think I'd look around.

I bet you I could beat it. I bet I could beat it with an eyesight. I think I could. This is my money. And this is a lot of the main reason I'm fighting with my wife. If you're saying Chipotle are higher,

there's no ceiling? What is your rain? I'll give you a ceiling. I'll give you ceiling. What are we talking? Caviar? Chain restaurant waiter. Okay.

That's the top level. That's where you're going to max out. Okay. So a Chili's. Are you doing? Yeah, could be a Chili's? Yeah, sure.

What about like a Hillstone group? Because there's Houston's, there's Beverly Grill. Those are all technically in pain. I'll take those out. I appreciate that. Yeah. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to nickel and dime you. Nowhere were the raw bar.

How about we agree on that? And if you get my wife home to me by the weekends, we're square. Then you can have raw seafood. As a reward? Yes. So where are we talking to? No raw bar on the road, but if I succeed in the mission, raw bar as a lot of incentive.

We go out together and I'm not promising you get half. Upon delivery? Like what? Well, I'm going to have to wait around your house. Stuff with my wife. Right. And this is, again, I'm not at 16. percent for your wife yet, but assuming that you can give me enough dirt on her that I think

she's 60 percent the wronging party in your relationship, then this is all good thing. Do you have any other intel for? I mean, it sounds like you're kind of interested in hiring Ethan over here. You're going to by plane fare. We're going to Seattle. I'm going to. That's why you're paying you. You got to come with me. Oh, I need you at my side. This is a part of your business plan? Yes. He should just go then and do it by himself. No, I'll handle the dirty work. You got to eyeball. He's hiring you because he has shit to do here. It won't take long. Seattle?

I have a podcast. We have an episode a week. That's right. Get on Zoom. No one noticed. From Seattle. Wow. I don't know.

So this every single case you take. Not every single. But if they can, great. That makes a lot easier. You can stay in the hotel. So I'm just accompanying you on the flight. You're sharing a hotel room? Once you eyeball or I'll be like, okay, you head on back to the Howard Johnson's.

I'm going to go do this. What if he's willing to get two. separate hotel rooms. One for him, one for you. That's on you. Is this about needing my credit card at Chipotle and stuff? Because I'm willing to reimburse you after. It's not, it's not about that. It's just about the ID. I mean, it's logistically, it's a lot easier if you're there to pay for everything up front, sure. I gave you 20 videos of her running in her pajamas and you need me to spy her. I could probably do it. She's running away from the camera, though? Running two other cameras. Yeah, running away from one toward another. All right. No, you're right. How many cameras do you have at your estate? You have like 20. At the end of

The driveway catching her coming? Yeah, exactly. So it's the kind of thing where you're like, now let's jump over to this camera. You got good coverage. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she's always running away.

Well, if there's good footage of her face in a way that I, okay, you're right. I would not need you to come along if I've got good footage of her face. But you would still want them to. I mean, it'd be great. So if you're, I didn't know it was going to be such a sticking. I thought it'd be fun. But all right, listen, if this is like, I'm a businessman and I respect you.

So, yeah, you don't have to come along. So you're tracking these people from, from their face. You need clear, like. I got a, I got to know it in my gut. So you're, you're just wandering around a city like Seattle, just looking at faces, trying to... That's the end game. I'll do, I'll do some, I'll do some legwork on the internet first and try to narrow things down, of course. So what kind of legwork, like, you enter her name plus Seattle minus AI?

So I'm sensing some disdain. It's a little bit harder than that. That's a little bit harder than that. Are you on, like, different websites that we're not on, like, law enforcement websites and stuff like that? My history and the law enforcement agencies give me access to... What is your history? I was an assistant. sheriff in New Fairfield, Connecticut.

Wow. For almost two years. What is an assistant do? Almost two years. What is the elected term there? Beat cop before that. Okay. For how long?

The assistant sheriffs not voted. They're appointed by the sheriff's elected. It sounds like it's an assistant job. It was a lot of secretarial work, but I had a badge and a gun and potentially could, yet. Would you ever type on the computer with the gun? I mean, I can't say it didn't happen. That wasn't something I thought about a lot of. That's fun, right?

Sure. Right. Yeah. sort of Chico Mark style Right You've got a fun Shoot the keys You're on one of those websites

Where ads start popping up You can't close the windows You'd point your gun at the screen It's so mad Yeah And like the X isn't the X The X is actually opening up another ad It's supposed to close the window

That should be illegal What's going on with that? What is going on with it? So I have access to some Law enforcement Some private security info Something that only lawmen are supposed to have access to us

License plate numbers You can track those I can run a license plate number I can run a social security number I can check some plain ticket purchases. Credit cards. Credit card, some of the, if it's a major credit card, I have access. If it's a cool, fringy one, it can be a little stickier.

So the major one. Like a debit card from a small bank. Like a smart list card or something like that. Could be, yeah. You know those smartless phone plan? You can track that? Probably not yet. Probably not yet.

It's probably too new. Wow. Are you implying that they don't have a ton of customers yet? I'm not saying anything about your employer. Got it. Are you saying there's not a lot of people out there that aren't willing to transfer? Aren't doing cell phone and cell phone to three comedians? Yeah.

I'm sorry, two comedians and one actor? Yeah. I'm not saying that at all. Okay, good. Sounds like a great business idea. Sounds like a great business. Because it was a big decision for me to go from Ryan Reynolds to Sean Hayes in terms of all my banking. It's a lateral move in a lot of respects, but for phones?

I don't know. For phones, it's hard. It depends where you live. Mm-hmm. The Ryan Reynolds network, cricket, right? That's cricket. Is that right? I think so, yeah.

Yeah. I thought it was mint mobile. Okay, whatever it is. He's not in the network yet. It takes a while to get on the law enforcement radar. Is that because a lot of criminals use Ryan Reynolds. Because a lot of criminals don't use it. It's not worth it.

I see. Oh. It's not worth it. I see. Got it. But I do have access to a lot of these. So, yeah, I would check these sites, get some background information. I have an ex-girlfriend who I've always wondered why she got divorced.

And I think that stuff is up there. Do you know her social security? No, no, we never got married. Hmm, okay. She got married after we were together. That's her business. I'm not mad about that. And you were not in touch with her at this point?

no we broke up hard and then she got married okay there's a wedding announcement how soon after yeah thanks not long enough like I believe that there was some overlap too soon okay overlap so like even though it's all our business to move on you know

there's some there's some emotion in my younger years and then you're wondering why she got divorced they got divorced not much longer after but I am because you thought there was maybe overlap in that as well or you wonder if she was at fault no I'm just wondering if her reason for divorces still feel bad about what I did to my ex-boyfriend.

It'd be great to see that in the court records. And there are those websites where they're like, if you pay, we can unlock these records. But it sounds to me like what Ethan does is it goes and finds her and brings her back to you. Yeah, I can't really get. There's not a lot of in the records about intention. You have to say why you're divorcing someone. Yeah, there could be a stated reason, but that could. But would you be willing to do that?

You've heard of his case. This sounds like a 60 to me. Yeah. Yeah, she's past 60 already. Yeah. For sure. She's past 60. She got married right away, dumped this asshole too.

Yeah, bring her over to Max. I'll get her. But I don't want to go with you to get her. I mean, I imagine. Are you free this weekend? Where is she? How bad is it? Don't most of your customers come to you at a really low point in their life?

They don't want to take a vacation with you. They want out of their lives, usually. They want a break. But look, you don't have to come. I'll send you an itinerary. Go if you want. You don't have to go. You can pop in and out, too, if you want.

Like, if there's something else going on in the city. If you don't want to do the yoga at 10 a.m., you don't have to. These are wedding rules. What kind of hotels are you staying in? I'm having a lazy day. That's what I'm going to say to you. Nothing fancy. Again, serviceable.

Just something, just a nice place to lay your head. How many stars? Sheraton 4 points. What do we got? Shared in 4 points. Okay. Beautiful. Like a budget business hotel.

Nah, I won't go Omni. That's crazy. Yeah, two expenses. That's too expensive. Okay, got it. That's too much. But, um... Radisson's...

I'll do Radisson. Sure. Radisson by the airport. Radisson by... Downtown Radisson's... Now we're talking money. But by the airport, that's... For the valet.

Did you ever valet the car? Is that part of the expenses? Never. Never valet. Okay. Park my own damn car. Self park? How many... How many tickets do you get?

Even off the clock, you're self parking only? Self parking only. Yeah. Just throw... By the airport's not always safe in the structure at night. I'd just be careful. I guess you're a bounty hunter. I'm a bounty hunter. Let him try.

Yes, shit ever gotten... Shit's gotten heavy? Shit's gotten heavy. Yeah. Tell us some of these stories. I don't know why we're getting into the weeds about your process. I don't know either. I didn't invite that line of questioning that I was not the momentum behind it.

Tell us about... I'm happy to talk about whatever. Tell us about some of your... Oh, you know what? We're running out of time. Oh, that's all right. I'm so sorry. That's okay.

Hey, really, it's fine. We're running out of time. We've got to take a break. This is too bad. But can you stick around? Maybe some... Some of these stories might pop up in conversation. Yeah, I mean, I got some good ones.

I got some very juicy, violent stories. But you're the host. All right, well, we're going to take a break. When we come back, Ethan Merck is going to stick around. We're also going to have Max Silvestry. Gabe Liebman, we'll be right back with more comedy bang, bang, bang after this. Comedy Bang, bang, we're back. We have Gabe Liebman and Max Silvestri.

The podcast is called I Need You Guys, Several episodes out there. there wherever you can get your podcast right now who who's uh the guests of your first few episodes uh john malaney john malini's up there jessie klein michelle butto sean hayes cum mail great yes i can't get these people on my show nick cole these people are all comes on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah cumal he just did it yeah okay so you get some of the rest the rest though walking this back yeah geez jesse did my other show the rest the rest don't respond anymore. We're calling in a lot of chins.

Yes. And we're going to burn those bridges so fast. It will be strangers soon enough. So how is it for you? Because you used to be up till just a couple of months ago, you used to be comedians and people would ask, hey, come do my podcast. And you would roll your eyes and go, all right. Now you're the one out there saying, come do my podcast.

Yeah. How's it feel? I have a lot of guilt about it. Yeah. Yeah. Am I bothering this person? Am I bothering them? I, you know, I do feel like I'm getting in their way of the flow of their day. Yeah.

Especially a Zoom, like a Zoom podcast, we require a lot of technical know-how. They need to have over-ear headphones. Yeah. Not only are we old friends, but you need to navigate stream yard and quick time recordings. How would you love to leave your computer open in this hotel room while you finish the Dropbox upload? Like, it's such a burden. This is too much on people. Well, it sounds like a dynamite show, though, it's out there right now.

We also have Ethan Merkis here, but we need to get to our next guest. Ran right by me quick. We need to get to our next guest, Ethan. Ethan, he's been sitting here. Thank you or something. All right. He's been sitting here waiting to come on. My apologies.

He's a mentalist. This is so exciting. I'm fascinated with mentalists. Please welcome to the show, Arnold DeBobo. Oh, Scott, thank you so much for having me on. It's my pleasure. I've been enjoying listening to you guys chat. I love the show.

I love comedy. Sorry that we took so long to get to you, but Ethan here wouldn't, you know, honestly, shut up about... I didn't know I was running long, my politics. No, it helps me before my shows. What I'll do is I'll kind of scope out the audience. I'll listen to what they say. I'm not doing sorcery.

I can clear some stuff up about mentalism right now. Is it actual, is it magic? Is it SPS? It's not ESP. I can't actually read minds. I don't have superpowers. It's like a trick? It's, it's, it's, it's, I'm using techniques that are out there.

Got it. They're psychological. So it's like if you went to go get a massage and someone was to, to do the massage and then afterwards you go, wow, that feels good. Was that sorcery? No, you'd just say it's a technique. It's a technique. It's a technique.

Yeah, they've worked at it for their whole life. Right. Do you give massages ever? I, I do, I do give foot massages. Oh, good. People don't enjoy them. Oh, they're, they're, uh, unasked for? No, they're, they're not good.

They make people uncomfortable. You go right for the bone. Yeah, I'm not good at it. And I think that's actually what makes me maybe the greatest mentalists out there. There's some really good mentalists. O'S Perlman, for example. He charms people. He's very funny.

I'm more off-putting. Audiences are uncomfortable around me. They put up their guard. Yeah, that's one example of what's disturbing about me. So they'll immediately kind of put brick. walls up and I've got to smash through those walls. What are your other, yeah, I'm sorry Max. I know it just, it feels like to me

what I imagine, and I don't know anything about it, like a mentalist should be able unbelievably to read people's cues and micro signals, but you have a blind spot around feet? Or like, why are you not able to read the signal? Or your own personality. Yeah. It's my own personality. Yeah.

Yeah. So you're unable to mentalize yourself saying like, oh, I'm annoying. Yeah, that's right. I can kind of pick up on it. I know, after a while. I'm able to make some adjustments. You can see like people's eyes kind of like looking past you. Yeah. They look past me. I've got to, I've got to scope that out. I've got to work with that and still get that information. And yet you don't have the wherewithal to realize like, oh, I'm not interesting. I should tell better stories or. Well, it's been helpful for me. It's been my whole life.

I mean, like a lot of people I got into this as a young man to meet girls. Sure. That is off-putting. I would go to parties and they would want me to leave so desperately. I would say, well, if you give me your number and I would get a lot of numbers that way. What was the rest of that sentence? You want your sock back. Yeah. If you give me your number.

Oh, then you'll leave. That's right. Yes. And did any of these numbers actually work? A lot of them are what they call. Yeah, their phony numbers is a popular thing. That's what they call them phony numbers? Yeah.

Scott used to give that. out for his live show that he booked in a sort of a decoy email. I think that you tried to call me on one of those money numbers for advice about your podcast. Yeah, yeah. Either it's a friend who kind of is up on it and they'll mess with you a little bit and we'll get a good laugh out of that. Or it's just a number that doesn't exist at all. You know, Ethan, I'm sorry. I feel like we're making the same mistake. No, Arnold is your name. I feel like we're making the same mistake that we made with Ethan where we're talking about your process too much instead of actually getting into what you do. Sure, sure. Yeah. I'll

This is entertainment. I can entertain a little bit and we can kind of go along with this. I entertain us a lot. That's what I would prefer. You know what I'm saying? Like this is your one shot to be on comedy bang bang. Max, think of a year.

Okay. Just clear your mind. Okay. I'm going to get close you. I'm going to pick up the year. Yeah, really think about it. Okay. Why are you taking off his sock?

You got the year. Okay. He's massaging his feet. Okay. So it's not a blueberry. It's a toe. You don't have to squeeze it like that. Okay. Now, let me do some mentalism. You don't, by the way, just... I end all these by saying you've been mentalized.

Okay. But a little feedback for me. Yeah. And Max took feedback for me, and he's got a podcast out of it. Okay. You don't have to say, let me do some mentalism. Okay. We expect that for me. Yeah. Hey, Scott, can I give you some feedback on your feedback?

Sure. I thought that was great. Thanks. Thanks, Ethan. But it's not your second. Like, we're doing an audio. I'm not trying to work my way in. We're doing an audio medium. I just want the audience to know what's going on.

And, Max, you didn't think of a year, did you? You weren't thinking of a year at all. You didn't listen to my instructions. Oh, holy shit. You're actually, you're right. And you were thinking. And that's not sorcery? These are just cues I'm picking up from it.

You're thinking, why is this guy so close to me? How can he get out of my personal space? Right. And you thought of a number how far back you want me to be. And it's five feet further away. That's incredible. Is that true? Is that true?

That's amazing. Both backing myself, like, imagining myself. Were you imagining like a yardstick and seeing one and two-thirds yardsticks? Actually, what I was thinking of the whole time was I immediately pictured a distance. And then I was like, it's like, Rhea Perlman lying down. Right. I was like trying to figure out how. long it was, so I wasn't thinking about what he was saying.

Not as far as DeVito, but... Who's taller? Yeah. And these are the age-old question. And the point is, I wasn't thinking about a year. I was kind of like, a real taller, but she's just because her hair. Well, I mean, it's interesting. I don't want to tell you how the sausage is made, but...

Right. You know, toes have what? Feet have what? Nails. DeVito's two inches shorter. Feet of... Feet of five toes. Okay.

And five feet, maybe that put that in your head. And that's kind of how I'm manipulating these things. Why not 10 feet, though? It's not sorcery. There was a cadence of how you squeeze my big toe. And now I'm realizing maybe you were pulsing. It was sort of like one, two, three, four, five pause. One, two, three, four, five.

But this is, I mean, that's incredible that you were able to pick that up. I mean, a lot of mentalists would maybe just take a stab or try to implant a number in his head or something, you know, but you thought it was just that you had freaked him out so much. He was thinking about you getting away at any cost. That's part of it. It's my natural ability to kind of turn people off. Right. It wants them. And I know that's coming. So I'll use that. And that's how I book a lot of corporate jobs. Oh, cool. Okay. Do you want to try again with one of the other people here or? Sure, sure. So. Do me.

Okay, great. You know, you can ask a little nicer. Do me now. He has a gun on his altar. Ethan, I want you to think of a historical figure. Okay. Actually, let's visualize it. Can you Google image search? You have your phone in front of you.

Let's Google image search a historical figure. All right. One that he's thought of, or just should he Google historical figures and see what pops up? I think the one that he thought of would be more helpful because then we can actually get the... The Google image search. And is it all right if I use duck, duck, go? I guess. Do you have to?

I'm not a fan of Google. Is that all right if I dock, duck, ducco image search? Yeah, yeah, that works. Does it work as well? And you have it, you're thinking about it. Okay, let me look at you. Okay. Okay.

Ethan, you didn't actually Google image search, did you? Or duck, duck, go. You didn't look up the photo. I did not. Okay. Did you text your partner? you have a romantic you have a girlfriend and you text a situation that's yeah you have a situation and you and you and you you you sent her a code that you have when you're socially in trouble

and you want an excuse to break away i did i did yep i sent my situation and it's an emoji uh it's it it is an okay and it's it's a it's an alarm it's a siren well you're a little bit off there it's a fire truck. Okay. Okay. It has a siren on top of it. There's two sirens on. But the primary image is a truck.

Okay. Yeah. Sorry about that. It's all right. But it's a close-up of the top of the truck where the siren is. It's a top-down view of a fire truck emoji. The siren's front and center. But I think of it.

With the fire seats. And you know, this is part of it. This is part of it. It's got, could you hand me that envelope that I sent to the studio? Oh, yeah. Oh, this is from you. A week ago. Oh, yeah.

This came a week ago. And, you know, and actually, hand it straight. I don't even want to touch this thing. Okay. But you want to touch it, hand it straight, hand it straight to Ethan. Okay, here you go, Ethan. And Ethan open that up. And there's, there's, there's, you see the postmark?

You see that postmark? Okay. I do see it. And so, and that's. What kind of stamp is that? Those are in. They look to be like commemorative. They're commemorative for the space program.

Oh, wow. Well, you know what? I still get happy thinking about the space program. And those women were the first astronauts who were... Yeah, those were the women. It's all women and they're crying. Yeah. Those are the first astronauts rejected?

Yeah. Those were the teams. That's when they said we don't... The caption says first rejects. Oh, okay. And I think that's beautiful that they did that. They deserve to be remembered. Hidden figures no longer.

Yeah. The first year they allowed divorced women to apply. None got in. But they did apply. They were allowed to apply. It's an honor just to be applied. Inside that envelope, as you can see, toy truck. Fire truck.

Oh, my God. Holy shit. That's crazy. Wow. You've been mentalized. Wow. You just got mentalized. That's great.

Now, hang on, that is witchcraft. That's amazing. I'm going to call what it is. You didn't say you've been mentalized to max. I think I did. I think there was a lot going on. A lot of cross talk? Scott, could I give some feedback on what you just said there?

You were right on the money. This is his segment, though. I'm really not trying to extend my real estate here. Well, when you go back, maybe I'll, say it softly and everyone will kind of just have it in their subconscious somewhere. Well, this is crazy. Because, I mean, normally a mentalist picks up on physical cues to see or tries to implant. So did you implant something in his head beforehand or while you were here that you knew

a week ago that you were going to send this fire truck to? I don't know how you did this. Yeah, I mean, I did start a small fire outside the studio. I don't know if you noticed that. It wasn't massive, but it made a lot of smoke. It kicked up a lot of smoke. I was, yeah, I was kind of putting out cigarettes. It scared some people.

I mean, L.A., you know, during fire season, it's very dry. It's very dry, but you know what? It did just rain here, and it was safe, and I thought I could get away with it. And even just that brief. criminals should say, I thought I could get away with him. Yeah, I'll just feel bad for him now. That's so nice. Yeah, okay. The honesty.

Sometimes the police do use me. And I think we're hiring you right now. I'm scared. I'm scared out of my mind, but I, I, I'm scared of you working together. That would be incredible. A lot of mentalists, they don't want to work with law enforcement. I don't mind. You don't mind.

No. Why don't most people? Why don't most mentalists? Yeah. Well, because it is, again, it's not sorcery. It is for entertainment. They don't want. actual cases to be decided.

Mentalism isn't allowed in court. They won't accept it. They can't use it to prosecute people. Even if a lawyer just wanted to do it for fun in court one day? I think it's because you're not allowed to take someone's shoes and socks off in court. Honestly, it goes both ways. The law enforcement doesn't want to work with mentalist. And I'm sorry to say what I'm about to say because I don't mean to start a fight or anything.

It's because we don't respect your profession and we think you're going to turn the skybag economy on this lying, bottom-pity. me particularly a lot of officers have a problem with yeah i have up until this what i'll do is i'll go in i'll talk to a suspect and let's say they bring you in when there's a suspect yeah there's a suspect maybe they want a confession or they want some they don't bring you in when like it's a cold case no no no i need someone to read they already have someone they know who did it it's a last resort when you're bringing in a in new fairfield when i was the assistant secretary by the time we brought in the mentalists It was last resort.

We had no, nowhere else. But this is when they've already captured the books. But there is a ticking clock on the interrogate. Usually only have 24 hours before you charge the person. So it's, they've tried. And they're like, we have eight hours left. If they're bringing me in, they're extra desperate. Okay.

And what happens? Well, I'll talk to one of these suspects, and a lot of times they'll think, they'll fantasize maybe about hurting me in some way. Sure. And I can pick that up. I choose the electric chair. that kind of thing. Yeah, and frequently what they'll do is they'll fantasize about hurting me with maybe a weapon

that they committed another crime with, and I can help the authorities find these weapons you've been mentalized. Take me back to the creek. I want to get my hammer. Yeah, and then I want to smash it into Arnod's face. Right. So I've got a gentle question, I mean, to ask here. Gentle.

I'm trying so hard. easy. Is it techniques you're using? Sounds like you're just reading someone's mind. No, I'm trying to be careful about this. I'm scanning ahead. Are you just so insanely gross? I mean, is that a talent?

Are you so contemptuous? Yeah, I am gross enough that it is beneficial to what I do, but I try to jujitsu that and use it to my benefit. Because I don't like to talk about physical attributes, but you're unattractive. I'm kind of classically unattractive. smell bad. I do smell I don't do myself. You're asymmetrical and you look mean.

You have sort of like. I whisper to gay Boston two. Whoa. Yeah. That's low. Yeah. It's low. It's low. It's low. And nationally. You have sort of like a pig pen kind of like dust clouds above you. I do. A lot of people can actually see my stink. Yeah. My diet doesn't do me any favors. There are also flies next to you and they're holding their nose going P.U. Yeah. Yeah. I have a lot of cartoon characteristics. It is off putting. I'll do big events.

Usually it's kind of a punishment. And corporations will say, hey, we're having. They're trying to punish. They're having to, they're employees. Hey, come to this big event. I'll come out. I'll do some mentalism. The employees will say, we'll work as hard as you want.

We want to go back to our death. Yes. No more retreats. I got it. And so that's really, I'm bringing up the bottom line. So when you're brought in, the person goes like, get me out of this room. I'll say anything. I just don't want to be.

around this asshole anymore. That's true. It's true. Okay. Scott, let me ask you. Yeah. We've never met before.

This is the first time. You sent some mail to my house about a week ago. Yeah, but we haven't physically met. You haven't emailed me. I haven't ghosted you with the email. And there'd be no way I know your ATM pin, right? Nobody knows that. Does your wife know that?

I mean, she, I think she does. But, uh, but, uh, but, I mean, unless you were behind me one day. Okay. And I was withdrawing. No. I, because I make a lot of withdrawals. Okay. Oh, really?

withdrawal a day kind of guy because I'm always just like I always get the minimum. Yeah. I'm like why didn't I go for the maximum? And you don't mind the thing. So this pin is very important to you. It's an eight time a day thing. Yeah. So it's very important. I get this guy's got it. I get this guy. You know what? I loathe

you but I got to respect the delivery. So I want you to think about that pin and okay. Oh Scott. Oh Scott. Yeah. You have You have a sick mind, Scott. You're a twisted man. Wait.

Because you didn't think about your ATN pit, did you? I mean, no, honestly. It's in there a little bit, but you weren't thinking about it. I was when you first brought it up. You were thinking about me in a boat and you pushing me into the water. Just to wash you off. Honestly, like, it's... And I can't swim, Scott.

I thought a bathtub wouldn't be, you know, cleanly enough. I thought the ocean might do a better job. Well, you mentioned I sent you some mail. That implies multiple pieces of mail. Not when I said it. Can you open that? Can you open that other piece of mail that came here months ago? That's from me.

Why am I still holding on to this? I don't know, but I hear it. Here's a letter opener. Okay, could you back off with the letter opener? I have my own. I'll just use my fingers. All right. Okay, great.

Put that back. Was that like a switchblade letter opener? Yeah, it's a switchblade. It's handy because you only need one hand. Okay. It is so off-putting. He's right. He knows himself.

Okay. I've opened it up. And you can see that is a signed autograph from Phil Collins. Oh, wow. Of in the air tonight. And he says, and he says, I would not help him drowning either. Right. This is that song that he was singing to that guy in the audience.

Yeah. That's right. You might want a little more context for people who aren't super familiar with the lyrics to that song. Everyone knows the lyrics to in the air. We all know the drum part. He signed it, hey, check out my lyrics to in the air tonight. Oh. Sincerely Phil Collins.

So he got Phil Collins to autograph that? That's right. I got Phil Collins. You've been mentalized. I got Phil Collins to. And I'm just taking it on faith that this actually is Phil Collins. That that's not me. I can check that signature.

Hold on the back, there's a picture of Phil Collins holding it up next to a newspaper from four months ago. Oh, my God. That's incredible. It's so hard to get a photo of someone holding up the photo on the back of the photo. Yeah. Yeah. It's a double-sided headshot. That was pre-pandemic.

Wow. Really? Months ago. That has many months. Can I ask a, this is probably a dumb question because I haven't. I've obviously been to a lot of. That's how tall Danny DeVito is. Is that what you're going to ask?

How high he is. How high he is. How far from the sky he is. Excuse me, that's how I measure height. How high he is. I've only seen probably a dozen mentalist stage shows. So I'm not like a pro. Some of the same guy multiple times, but for the most part, it's like eight or nine different guys in the UK and America.

Different countries. But I don't know. mentalism that well. Each time you asked us to think of something, but then you guessed a different thing we were thinking of. Is there any way to just get straight to guessing what we're thinking of without the Googling? Yeah. Could you do that? Like, just, you haven't done, you haven't done, I don't think you've done Gabe yet. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Straight off. Okay. So, so, okay, I want to. Just tell us what he's thinking. Just tell us what he's thinking. He's wondering, like, why did I eat all that raw

onions? Why did you eat that? Yeah. He's wondering that about me. Do you have an answer? I don't. I mean, it's just I'm trying to quit smoking, so I'll just try to just chew on onions. Anything else? Just raw onions by themselves. And that comes out.

Sounds like you're burping too. Yeah, because I wasn't really, I was thinking the smell of onion every time he talks. Right. It's so fresh and it's hot. It's like Chipotle, honestly. It's like very fresh, onion. I'm going to hire you. Wind.

I want to hire you. Whoa, whoa. I want to hire you to work on a case that's stymied me. Oh. I need your help, actually. This is incredible. What's the case? Don't go into too many of the details.

We don't have time for that. It's a great story. It's a real great, but I'll keep it just in the head. I've got a hard out, so I do have to go. I've been talking for maybe 10 seconds. I do have to go. I appreciate the offer. Forget it.

I'll write it. I'll write it down to you. Yeah, just send. Honestly, this could have been an email. Yeah. I guess it can be an email. Never,

never you mind. All right. Well, I mean, Arnold de Bobo, this is incredible. You're a loathsome individual, but, uh,

I mean, your techniques work. And I, I'm probably going to not survive much longer. I do. Oh. I do often. get hit by cars

so I'm really happy to come on the show while I'm still with everybody no cars in here yeah no car I am safe from traffic that's right well congratulations Arnold so nice to meet you we are running out of time though guys we only have time for one final feature on the show this is of course a little something called plugs

We have time for one final feature That is, of course, a little something called... That was Open Up the Plug Back 2025, Then You Are Alive by G2 Pilots. Thanks so much to G2 Pilots. If you have a plugs theme, head over to CBBWorld.com slash plugs. and you can upload your songs there or you can find everything you need to make a remix and upload it

and guys what do we plug in obviously Max and Gabe your new show yes I need you guys and you can get this weekly I would imagine yeah get it weekly why not every six days that is a great suggestion we might do some bonus episodes

so there's a world where you get something every six days but no promises you mean on the average I just think it would be fun to put out a podcast every six days. So, like, the first week, it comes out on Monday. Right. And then it comes out on a Sunday.

Yeah. Yeah. And it comes out on a Saturday. I love that. You know what I mean? And this is why you've been in the biz so long. Yeah. This is the kind of advice that I probably gave you on that phone call.

You see the industry from the inside out and we're outsiders. Any other award shows that we're all working on together? God, I hope not. Gabe and I are also TV producers. So check out Lute Season 3 and I Love L.A. season one. Yes. What is I love L. It's a new HBO comedy on Sunday nights

And then it's coming out six days after the premiere So the premiere is Sunday November 2nd So every six days Yeah, HBO knows what they're doing They get it New HBO comedy Rachel Senate Yeah

Oh yes, okay I've heard of the show great I'm looking forward to that And of course Lute Alan Yang show, right? Yes, that's right Yeah Fantastic

And we don't have a lot of time But Ethan Mirk real quick What do you want to plug This is a podcast I'm a fan of It's about the Beatles called Screw. We're just going to talk about the Beatles by Will Hines and some friends. He's a great comedian, really truly noble man who I'm a fan of, and that's what I'd like to plug.

If I hired you to chase him, would you? In a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. He's a man of low morals. Oh, oh, I thought you said he was a great man. He's noble, but only for his own bullshit. Okay. You're, God, I would love to hear about some of the cases.

Yeah. Some of them are great. One of them involves a widow. Actually, you know, we got to turn to Arnold de Bobo. Arnold, what do you want to plug? Oh, nothing really. but thank you. I suppose I've been listening to the Action Boys podcast.

Me too. It's very entertaining, a lot of old movies, these weirdos are talking about. I mean, they would have to talk about old movies because they can't talk about new movies because they're not out yet. Yeah, yeah. That's a real mind-bending way to look at it, Scott. I should work that into my routine. What are they going to talk about like, oh, in five years from now, let's break this movie down

that might come out. They don't have a window into the future. No, these are just regular guys talking about old movies. Regular Joe's. Just average Joe's just laughing it up talking about these steroid-ridden freaks on celluloid. And what is this now called? It's called Action Boys. With the Z.

Yeah, all right. And what do I want to plug? Look, we have new throwback teas out there available. Technicality, No Down Boo Over. Hey, Nong Man ain't nothing to fuck with throwback teas. If you buy one throwback t-shirt and you can get a second, 30% off with code throwbacks at podswagg.com

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and Dalton Wilcox and Jason Manzucas and Reggie Watts. Really good series. So get in right now. You can get these at figurecollections.com. We also have series one. still available, and European customers can go to Actionfigureseller.com. All right, I think that's enough for me.

Let's close up the old plug bag. Open up the plug back And then you are alive You got to By the way, huge news I credited G2 pilots With the opening the plug-back theme No, that was plug-a-stage by Sean Fogel

That was open up the plug-back 20-25 Then You Are Alive by G2 Pilots. So thanks to both of those freaks For putting those together. Guys, I want to thank you so much, Max, Gabe. First of all, congratulations, Gabe. You're in the one-timers club. Oh, my God.

So much more prestigious than the second-timers club. Yeah, it's huge. And please email me again. I would love to. I will get back to you next time. And Max, what more needs to be said? Well, I'll see you next year. Many people online have said the same thing about the set.

Sure. In Lincoln, what more needs to be said? Exactly. And Arnold de Bobo, the sooner you're out of here, the better. I've heard that so many times. Yeah, no, that's typically how people say goodbye to me. Yeah, exactly. You're just influencing us all to say stuff like that.

Yeah. I kind of put that out there earlier. Sooner, the better. And Ethan Merck. How's it going? It's good, but we have like 10 seconds before the end of the show. Okay, I once helped a widow find an ex-husband. I'm sorry, we're out of time.

We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye.