Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - Live At The Bell House #2 w/ Jason Mantzoukas, Paul F. Tompkins, Ego Nwodim, Connor Ratliff

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

Recorded live at the Bell House in Brooklyn, NY, Scott is joined by Jason Mantzoukas, Cal Solomon, Pastor Pasta, and Mr. Books for the second night celebration of the release of Comedy Bang! Bang! The... Podcast: The Book. Visit https://www.comedybangbangworld.com/book/ to get your own copy of Comedy Bang! Bang! The Podcast: The Book!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Guitar... Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah... Comedy bang bang, comedy bang bang Comedy bang bang, comedy bang bang Comedy bang bang, comedy bang bang Comedy bang bang, comedy bang... Comedy bang bang, comedy bang bang Hey, what's up?
Starting point is 00:00:37 Thank you. Haven't gotten one of those in quite a long time. If Mondays are made for Kevin Costner's lasagna, you can call me Garfield of Dreams, what? Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. Thank you to Toss My Salad and Scrambled Eggs. What the fuck are we doing? Hi, welcome to the show, everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Great to see you. Bell House, night two. I don't know if you heard, but night one was a scorcher of a show. I don't know what you expect. Should have been here night one. You really think night two was going to be good after night one? Come on, even though this one went on sale first.
Starting point is 00:01:35 We have a wonderful show. My name is Scott Ackerman, by the way. Thank you so much for coming. We are here in celebration of this Comedy Bang Bang, the podcast, the book. You all received one when you came in, I presume. I need verbal confirmation from everyone. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You don't need to hold it up, just a yes. Yes, yes, yes. Ma'am? Okay, thank you. We're very, very proud of it. In fact, some of the people who are involved in the making of it, some are backstage, some are in the audience.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I believe our editor, Sam, is here. Sam, take a bow. We're back there. Hey! We turned the book in and she quit the next day. I don't know whether we made her do that, whether she took a look at the book and said, this is not for me.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But we have some wonderful contributors here tonight to the book. We're going to be talking to them about the book and we also have some people who have nothing to do with the book. Does that sound fun? I don't know. And as is tradition here at the Bell House, we have one extra chair than what we need. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:04 We have, if anyone wants to jump up on stage and just take the extra chair at some point, I'll talk to you. We have a great group of people here. You guys ready to start the show? All right, let's do this. Our first guest is a... He used to live right here in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:03:28 A fact that he continually talks about. Just even five minutes ago. Oh, when I lived here down the street, I did this thing. Shut the fuck up. You know him as the co-host of the How Did This Get Made podcast. Please welcome Jason Manzuchus. You want this one? What's up, jerks?
Starting point is 00:04:02 How we doing, Brooklyn? That's right. I used to live right down the street before there was a Whole Foods. How we doing? Oh, boy. How many people were here last night? I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Zero. I have never heard that reaction at any concert. Shocking. That was... I felt for sure there was going to be a lot of overlap. At least one person, but... So many people came last night and were like, we don't have to go tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You know what? We should just get rid of our tickets, sell them to these fucking idiots. Standing. Don't put your flash on. I see you, you fucking idiot. And that goes for everybody else who wants to pull your phone out
Starting point is 00:04:53 and take a bunch of dumb-blissed dummy right here. It's like the minute I was like, pulling your phone out and I saw, don't tape my phone rant. Don't applaud it. Don't applaud it either. I don't even want to applause. Just put your phones down.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Oh, I'm going to get in a fight tonight. Because I'm from Brooklyn, baby. You're not from Brooklyn. Yeah, no, I'm not. You lived here, like, what, three years? What? No, I lived here for 13 years. All right, plus or minus 10.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Plus or minus 10. Three years. Negative 7 to 13. Why did we switch seats? Last night, we were in the reverse. Okay, I'll sit there. I want to switch back. I swear that you were in this one last night.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Oh, yeah. Well, this one last night was a wooden stool. If you remember, there were two wooden stools. I'll sit here. There are two wooden stools. We should have worked this out beforehand. I don't like where I am now. Okay, how do you feel now?
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's good. Oh, this is so much better. Do you feel my residual ass heat? Oh, yeah. Oh, I can feel it just steaming right up through my butthole. Like all the farts you put in, I'm soaking back up. Come on. It's not that kind of a show.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Isn't it, though? That's our offshoot show. Oh, yeah. Drippin' Milk. Drippin' Milk. Talking Tang. This could have been an episode of Talking Tang, but you said no.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You said no. I've got a book to promote. I'm sorry. Well, it's all about, but I'm an author. You keep saying I'm an author a lot. I'm in the library of Congress. Ooh. Oh, you like that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Should we do... First of all, if we did the podcast... Yeah. Drippin' Milk, should we do a book about that? Oh, my God. Yes. What would the book be? Because, I mean, this book was so hard to do.
Starting point is 00:07:03 A transcription of all of the episodes that eventually got us canceled. Right. Which is certainly what that show would yield. These idiots. It's so great to see you. It's so great to have you here in Brooklyn. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's thrilling. You were supposed to be on tour with us last time. Yes. We were rolling through here and... We were on tour with COVID. I got COVID in Texas. COVID in Texas. Which was not great.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'll be honest. Yeah. Not a great place to have COVID. The nurse that came to treat me, I said this to you before, did not believe in vaccines and vocally told me so. Viemently told me so. In a way that seemed to be telling me that I was a fool for believing in them
Starting point is 00:07:45 while I was violently ill with COVID. But you had... There are no residual effects. You're all good. Everything is... You're all good. Not going away. So far, so good.
Starting point is 00:07:56 This was like almost a year ago. I don't know. What do you think is going to pop up? Maybe you got that long... You know, it's called long COVID. Who knows when it kicks in? It's not long time to kick in COVID. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I don't know. Maybe that's how it works. Maybe that's the... It's just a ticking time bomb, you know? And next thing, you know, kaboom brain fog. I don't think a guy like you needs to say the words ticking time bomb while there are cameras out. Sounds like you want to return to...
Starting point is 00:08:19 I know a lot of people said last night I didn't do enough 9-11 jokes. And they were hoping that I would man up and do more 9-11 jokes. No, no, no, no, no. So tonight, my promise to you is twice as many 9-11 jokes. So you're doing 18 over 22?
Starting point is 00:08:39 A car in every garage and a 9-11 joke in every pod. We can't do that tonight. No 9-11 jokes. Great. Last night was apparently too many 9-11 jokes. We're having fun. We are having fun. It's fun to have you on the show.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Oh, I'm thrilled to be here. Are you kidding? I mean, we just... We just taped, I will say, your 14th anniversary show. We did. That comes out on Monday. Which is crazy. Think about it this way.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Think about it this way. Like, 14 years. Who here was in, like, high school when that went 14 years ago? Is this your way of finding young chicks? No. No, no, no, no. Who here was in junior high when it came out?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Right, right, right. Who here was in fifth grade? Come on, man. And what's going on cup-size-wise? But 14 years. I mean, you started this, you were 56. No. Look, like, it's such an incredible long period of time.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Did you feel like this would be the bridge to your old age? This show? It is strange that it truly is. The one constant from youth to death. Podcast? Yeah, exactly. It is very exciting. You are a contributor to the book.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yes, I am. Let's bring up what Jason contributed to the book, if we could, on the slideshow here behind us. Boom. This is a piece... This is my real headshot from 2004, I think. Yeah. I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:10:34 My real headshot where I'm inexplicably wearing a ring. I don't remember being a ring guy, but there it is. And I can see you're propping up your muscle like you're pushing it out, so it looks big. Yeah. And I probably just did, like, 50 push-ups. I'm kidding. Probably five push-ups.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Just being like, I gotta look jacked. Yeah. And this is a piece you wrote... I mean, for a long time listeners of the show, everyone knows that Jason Manzookus is a character. Your real name is Jeffrey character Wheaties. And this is a piece you wrote about developing the character of Jason Manzookus. This is a little bit of a peek behind the curtain.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Jeffrey character Wheaties, the explanation of how I built, created, and now live inside of the human nightmare that is the character Jason Manzookus, a character whom I hate passionately. And resent... And as do all of us. And resent his existence and the fact that I have to make you hate me to like me? Ooh, that's a real head trip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:40 It's a wonderful peek behind the curtain. And one of the best peeks behind the curtain in cinema history is in The Wizard of Oz. Would you agree? Is that the joke backstage you said you had and was going to kill? Can't remember which one it was, but yeah, maybe. You said, set me up, I've got something. If I start talking about curtains, get out of my way. Clear the runway.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm going to crush. The bell house is going to be full of people who shit their pants at this joke. You can see any performer who goes to the restroom over there from this part of the stage. You looked behind me like someone was trying to attack me. And really all you noticed was someone going to the bathroom. Well, it looked like someone was... I mean, anything in that field of vision is startling. Would you agree?
Starting point is 00:12:34 I agree. I mean, honestly, I haven't even looked this way. And I don't care to. These are my people. The people who cared enough to come early enough. The early birds. Early birds. These are people who want to be by the bar.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And then these... I don't even know what the fuck they're doing. No, those people are the against the wall people. They're like, you're not going to get me. I'll see you. You can't attack me. I'm my backs against the wall. These are all the mob bosses.
Starting point is 00:13:06 So one of them nod like, yes, I am. Yes, I'm part of the organized crime. And I love comedy bang bang. Do you think there's anybody... Is there any overlap? Do you think there's any single person in organized crime? Really? Real question.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Who listens to comedy bang bang? Like waiting to rob like a shipping container. It's late in a car. Just listening to bang bang. Listening to bang bang. Oh shit. I got to go shoot these guys. Bow bow bow.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Give me that. Give me that. Bow bow bow. Yep. I love it. So bow bow bow. Shoot first and then give me that. Ask questions later.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And then bring... That's driving away. It's full of combination TV DVD players. Much like the first Fast & Furious movie. Was this fun for you to do to look back? And I mean, obviously a lot of the book is people... I don't even know what I'm going to say. What?
Starting point is 00:14:09 I lost interest so hard in the middle of that question. You can tell it's the end of this tour. A three-day tour. Exactly. Because you are... I'm looking at you and your eyes are like blink blink blink. It's like help me the same way that Indiana Jones has it. I can see an end ticker.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Please help me. Don Lemon fired. It's interesting they weren't the first to report that. Oh no. I'm sure not. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like you read about it on Twitter and stuff and then suddenly they announced it.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah. It's like... Come on. Come on. You're the news. You're the news. If anyone has a lock on this story. There's one locked up.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You knew with this one you could have been first to press. That's what this show is now. Political analysis. Imagine we'd be so dumb so quick. I worry Don Lennon was... Don Lennon? I don't know. We're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I am not able to steer the ship tonight. Ew. No, but it is... Fuck. You know what? Just talk about it. You know what? You just take a break.
Starting point is 00:15:29 You take a break. Here we go Brooklyn. We're going to talk about this book for a second, right? I wrote these words. I waited till the last minute. It was stressing me out. It was weird. It was weird to write a thing from the point of view of this fictitious character
Starting point is 00:15:47 that I barely remember from many years ago, but it was very fun and I'm very honored to be a part of it. Again, going back to 14 years in, I mean, here's a show that, you know what? I don't care to pay you compliments. I was on the verge of it. Really? Come on.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Pay me one. I was on the verge of saying, wow, here we are 14 years in and people are willing to stand for hours. And it will be a three hour show tonight. Just to watch a 64 year old man struggle to be charismatic on stage. I really wish if you're going to exaggerate my age,
Starting point is 00:16:25 you would do it a little more. Like it feels too close. It's so much more, it's so much more savage that it's closer. I know. And you didn't do it last night, but are you willing to commit to a 20 to 30 minute question and answer period after the show
Starting point is 00:16:47 where the audience can ask whatever questions they want? No one wants to ask us questions. As long as it's not about comics, because we don't want to talk about comics. No, absolutely. Nobody's interested. Yeah, comic books, exactly. We'll talk about comedians.
Starting point is 00:17:05 No, all day, every day. We'll talk so much shit about comedians. That's what this show is now. Lock the gates, let's go. Why does he lock the gates? I don't know, it's from the movie, isn't it? Huh? Isn't it from Almost Famous?
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's Marin's life from Almost Famous. WZF super fans, shut the fuck up. Okay, okay, we got them. Get them. Get them out, get them out. You fell for it, you dunces. Obviously, I know it's Almost Famous. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Get the fuck out of here. We're gonna go through every podcast's fandom and get them out of here. Bring up your podcast apps. If you have any other shitty podcasts on the app, you're out of here. You have a podcast of your own, of course. How did this get made?
Starting point is 00:17:58 How did this get made? Celebrating, I think, if you're 14, that makes us 13, yeah. Oh, you're 13? No, I'm 14, you're 13. Okay, yeah. Which is also insane. When I started it, I was in junior high.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Looking for girls. Oh, yeah. You were 40. And I am not allowed near there anymore. Had to move out of Brooklyn. It's weird to think about people going to school and stuff while they're in New York. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:32 How so? It's just funny to me. It's like you go to New York to, like, go see Broadway shows and stuff. You don't, like, there aren't, like, real people sitting around. You know what I mean? You go to college?
Starting point is 00:18:42 No, no. Anyone. Like, there are elementary schools here. Oh, wow. This is wild to have to explain. You could say the same about Los Angeles, though, when you think about it. It's like, this is where the movies are.
Starting point is 00:18:57 No, no, no, no. We all have kids. We all have... I mean, for you, that is only very recently true. No, no, I'm a dad. Up until, like, five months ago, you were Captain Hollywood at the Viper Room every night. Getting blowies in the restrooms.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Being, like, right here is where River died. I was here. I was working the door. Cut that from the podcast. No. Cut everything else. That stays in. The podcast starts now.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You gonna have kids, Jay? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah? Yeah? No, I mean, I've got a 16-year-old somewhere. Somewhere. Somewhere. Somewhere I know.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I know where he is. What's a him? Congratulations. Oh, yeah. Don't worry about it. Everybody's like, wait a minute. Jeffrey Jr. Jeffrey...
Starting point is 00:19:56 Jeffrey J. I thought I turned it off. I clicked a button, and I thought I turned it off. Oh, my God. Thank God you didn't turn it off. Holy shit, they can still hear me. I would like to have kids. Absolutely, I would like to have kids.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Oh, yeah. I'm frankly shocked I don't have kids already. I was ready to have kids back in the day. Yeah, because you've been raw-doggin' it now for... I've been... Listen, I'm raw-doggin' broads constantly just trying to get him pregnant. We are too close to drippin' milk right now.
Starting point is 00:20:22 We cannot... We got it. We got it. They shut my mic off. Oh, my God. Um... Yeah. But no. No.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Maybe it's me. Yeah, but no. Maybe I'm shooting blanks. Could be. Yeah. You ever get that gun tested? Never got my... Nope.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I never... I don't think it's the gun they test. I think it's the bullets. You ever go into the doctor, and they fire at you? No. No, no, no. I don't think it's the gun they test.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I think it's the bullets. You ever go into the doctor, and they fiddle with your nuts? Well, yeah. I mean, of course. The doctor always fiddles with your nuts. That's part of it. I mean, you say, like, it's a joke,
Starting point is 00:21:05 but part of getting a physical is getting your nuts fiddled with. It is very weird. Like, you think there'd be a separate office you go for that? Nope. You know what I mean? Like, you go into the doctor...
Starting point is 00:21:15 Doesn't that insinuate there's a shame room? Yeah. There should be. I mean, you go into the doctor, he does all these, like, really medical things of, like, looking in your ears and listening to your heart and an EKG and all that kind of shit. And then he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:26 hey, let me stick my finger up your ass. It's like, it's very... Like, let me go to a different guy. Wait, what? That would make it so much weirder. This is the guy that just does the finger in the butt. I want to think about my doctor holistically. Holistically.
Starting point is 00:21:46 In a sense that he's doing it all. Not that there's a dedicated finger in the butt guy, because that guy I'm starting to wonder about. Look. Because I'm like, why did he want this to be his thing? I don't care if it's attached to the other guy, like it's an office right next door. I don't care if he's wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I don't give a shit. Okay, this is my... You want something different. You're saying it's not exciting enough. You want there to be like, and now for this part, go through this door and see what happens. I don't know, it's a strange thing, like... No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's not. A medical exam. It's a medical exam, yeah, but... Thank God. How do they get doctors to do it? The proliferation of prostate cancer for people our age, which is old, is significant. We got to get that test.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That's true. We got to look after each other. Do you promise me that? I promise you. Just don't get that finger away from me. I couldn't... I wouldn't know what I'm looking for. Spongy?
Starting point is 00:22:49 I think... Tight? Is that good? Bad? That is weird. Yeah, what are they looking for? I bet there's a doctor here. Something tells me there's a doctor here.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Is there a mafia boss and a doctor? In the back. In the back. What are we looking for if we're in someone's butt? A nodule. A nodule. So something that feels like it's out of place. That's it.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Okay. Now we know. Like a little... So, later, when you're after the show, obviously, horned up beyond belief. And if you're a millennial, you're just doing ass stuff constantly. Make sure you're also doing your due diligence and checking for nodules. Look out for each other. That's our message here tonight.
Starting point is 00:23:30 That's our message here tonight. We all need to take care of each other. Turn to the person to your right, to your left, and say to them, I will look out for you. I will check you for nodules, even if that person's a stranger, as human beings. Yes. Wonderful, wonderful words. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm sweating tonight more than I was last night. Really? Why do you think that is? Are you going for it unclear at this point? Unclear. I don't believe it's related to the heat, because it seems very cool on stage. Boy, here we go. Now you're going to get me in my head.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Do you think it's flop sweat? Do I have a fever? Wait, is what? I think it's flop sweat. Oh, because I'm so nervous. Oh, no. I can't go on. Have you ever been on stage, and suddenly it just hits you what you're doing, and you're
Starting point is 00:24:19 like, what the fuck am I doing right now? No. You're always in character. I'm always like, fuck these idiots. And then I'm like, locked right in. And that's what you talk about a lot in the book, of course. Fuck these idiots. I think that's...
Starting point is 00:24:38 We had to trim, I think, at least 10 instances of you saying fuck these idiots. Oh, yeah. From the book. Yeah, fuck you, reader. It was very antagonistic to the reader. But we finally settled on a good tone. Are you happy with the piece? I'm thrilled with the piece, and I'll genuinely, I love the book.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I think that everybody here has a copy of it, right? And I know that there's going to be a big surprise that Scott's going to try and organize a book burning after the show. But I think don't do it. Keep the book. The book is fantastic, and is genuinely hilarious, and a testament to an incredible thing that you've built. So don't burn it even though he's going to want you to.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Thank you. A Jason Manzookus, everyone. Thank you. Hooray. No. Fair. I don't shake hands since the pandemic. I want you to move down one.
Starting point is 00:25:35 You want me to? Yeah. Oh, no, you just want this mic. That's why. Oh, no, I can move this mic here. If you want me placed here, that's fine. Yeah, I think we should both move down. Don't you think?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Oh, we both moved down. Yeah. I'm sorry. I get it now. Yeah, you can put that mic away. Well, no, somebody's going to need it. Oh, that's true. That's why there's a mic on every chick.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Oh, right. Sit down. I'm just getting my drink. Oh, what do you have? I hid it there. It's Rose. Because I'm classy as fuck, and it's spring in New York. Interestingly, it's cooler here.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I must be at a vent. Closer to these animals, though. One could get me much easier from here. Are you ready to get to our next guest? I'm thrilled, guys. We're having a great time. Hi. Do you not know who it is?
Starting point is 00:26:39 I don't know who it is. And now he's giving me a shush sign. Okay. You see him, too, right? Wait, what? Oh, I see. We can't see who it is, though. No.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I mean, I can't identify him, but... You see him, though, right? Yeah. Okay. I mean, I see something. Okay. Hey, I'm going to say something because I see something. Okay, say it.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Go ahead and say it. I see something. Okay, thank you. Do you think it's our next guest? No, it's not. Oh. No, it's a guy right there. Oh, that guy?
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. Oh, thank God. My assumption is that guy's there to stop somebody from rushing the stage. Or he's very slowly rushing the stage. And my question would be if he is there to protect us, why is there nobody there? And also, if he's trying to get on stage, it's a smooth move to go slow.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It's a little bit like... It's a little bit like red light green light. He knows he's spotted, so he's like... And the minute we turn our backs, he's going to be at the blue chair. It's like the Blink episode of Doctor Who. This... Yes!
Starting point is 00:28:05 By the way, I'm in season four. I'm about to be at the end of season four of Doctor Who in a watch that is my first time ever watching it. Your recommendation show is... I'm willing to say it. Fantastic. Yes. Riveting.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You're at the ninth doctor. We'll talk about this later. We do need to get to our next guest, if that's all right. Yes. That's who I thought you were saying, because they were peeking through the curtain. Oh, they were peeking through the curtain. Okay, wonderful.
Starting point is 00:28:29 They were peeking through the curtain. Well, he is a contributor to the book, which is very exciting. He wrote a script for the book, which is really exciting. He is one of the originators of the art form that we call rap music. Please welcome to the stage, Cal Solomon! Hi, Scott, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Hi, Jason. We met before. Of course. Great to see you again, Cal. Good to see you, too. Cal, it's so great to have you on this stage. Hey, thanks for asking me to do it. It's really exciting.
Starting point is 00:29:25 What a nice audience. Especially after last night, we had one of the worst human beings on earth here. Uh-huh. Who was it? This guy, Big Chunky Bubbles, was here last night. He's not a good guy? You've never met him, have you?
Starting point is 00:29:39 No. He's such a fucking asshole. I'll be honest. I really liked him. I really liked him. I had a great time. I really learned a lot, a lot about specifically chowders. We talked a lot about chowders last night.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I'm not expecting you to talk about chowders tonight. If you want. Sure, then. My knowledge is somewhat limited, but let's go. What do we know about chowder? It's a kind of soup. But what distinguishes it from just being a regular soup? Probably the way it looks.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I bet it looks real chowdery. Yeah. That is a good... To distinguish soups by how they look is a pretty smart taxonomy. There's not that many ways. I guess the way it smells is one. Yeah. I guess also, is it cold or hot?
Starting point is 00:30:31 There's one kind of cold soup. Wow. What's the cold soup called again? Gaspacho. Gaspacho. Why don't they make more cold soup? I guess any soup is cold if it's not hot. I mean...
Starting point is 00:30:46 Do you mean why don't they make more soup that's meant to be eaten cold? Yeah. Just soup that has cold... Do you mean why don't they leave more soup out? Yeah. Why don't we eat more rancid soup? But who are the ad geniuses who are like, oh, soup, it should all be hot?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Wait, are there commercials for soup? Oh, yeah. Are you kidding? Big soup is all over the TV. The soup council. Making sure you know it's meant to be eaten fucking hot. That's the thing, like hot things... That was a great episode of Mad Men.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Hot things can burn your tongue. Boy, that's true. Yeah. Whereas cold things are like, oh, that's cold. Do you know what? But they can hurt your head. Cold things. People eat something hot and it burns you.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Or eat something cold and you go, oh, that's cold. Yeah, you know, it doesn't have the severe effects. Well, but it can, like, give you a brain freeze. Or if you have sensitive teeth, it can really hurt. Do you have sensitive teeth? No. I've had... Do you have teeth that you can't even feel when someone touches them?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Kinda. I've had 32 root canals. Wait a minute. This is something we have never talked about. Super... Wow. Just a super quick question. How many teeth do we have?
Starting point is 00:32:17 36? I think it's 32, isn't it? 32? Let's ask the doctor. Doctor, how many teeth do we have? 32. There we go. So I got the full set.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So was it... Did you... I'm just... Did you need 32 root canals or were you upsold? I think I needed them. Okay. Yeah. Because they weren't all at the same time.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I don't know if that's an interesting upsell. It's like, hey, would you like this thing... You're here anyway. Would you like this thing that people dread more than anything in the world? We could just drill out the rest of them if you want. You'll never have to come back here again. And I haven't. Boy, it was funny when I had that one tooth that wasn't root canal yet going back to the dentist
Starting point is 00:33:04 and he would say, ah, it's still looking pretty good so far. And then I remember the following year, he's like, Cal, you're not gonna believe it. And I said, I bet I will. Over what period of time did you get these 32 root canals? From 14 to two years ago. I love when the audience is so invested that they have a genuine... Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's impressive. She's impressed. That's quite an expansive time. So, you know, and now do you feel like almost every time you go to the dentist, you're pretty much fine? Yeah, I mean, they just look at my gums pretty much at this point. So it's like a horse? No, it's the dentist. And they do the test, you know, where they poke your gums and then they say numbers.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Why are they saying those numbers? I don't know, I'm afraid to ask. I agree. I also don't like when you go to the eye doctor. I feel like we should be vastly far beyond number one and number two. Number two or number three. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know, point a laser at my eye and no ex...
Starting point is 00:34:14 Why can't I point a laser at water and it knows exactly... You should not be pointing a laser at your eye. Point a laser at my eye and know exactly what's wrong with it. Why am I doing like these draconian measures? I always hate it because I feel like there's a right answer and he wants me to say it and I don't want to let him down. Is that a big thing for you not wanting to disappoint doctors? I don't want to disappoint people at all. Just people in general.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So you ended up having like needless surgery as a result of just not wanting to disappoint them? Probably a couple times. Oh, wow. I've had two appendix surgeries. Oh, geez. Which did either of them result in your appendix being removed? The first one, yeah. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So the second one was done while the appendix was outside. They put it back in. Oh. A classic in and out. The doctor asked me the next day, he said, your appendix actually seemed fine. And I said, yeah, it was. He said, do you want me to put it back in? I said, sure.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You're very suggestible. Well, that's probably a fault of mine. Maybe that's why I thought I was in the Sugar Hill gang. For those of you who don't know, Cal Solomon here described your, I mean, not your entire backstory of your entire life, but it would pick it up around 1982, was it? Well, I thought I was a member of the founding member of the Sugar Hill gang. And then it turns out I was mistaken.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And the guys were very nice about it. Wanda Mike, Big Bag Hank, the other guy. As I recall, Wanda Mike was so nice about it, when you asked him about it, he moved the very next day. He did. He did. He moved away. You know, but it gave me the taste for rap.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And I always want to be good at rapping. And so I keep trying, but I'm not terribly good at it. But I still feel like I could be good at it. Yeah. I mean, you've, I believe we saw you in maybe Toronto or... Maybe. Yeah, somewhere. And you did a pretty good rap that night.
Starting point is 00:36:23 This bit of lore is very helpful for about six or seven people that are here with a new relationship, who are like, what is it? I'll go. And they're like, what's going on? I think it's important. I mean, Cal, you're such an interesting person. Oh, fascinating.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't think so. I really think you are. And one bit of info that we found out when we were on tour this last year was the song that the Sugar Hill gang sings about, you ever go to over to a friend's house and the food is... And the food just ain't no good? Is that was actually about a party you threw. It was a diss track.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. It was the first diss track, and I had no idea it was about me. But, you know, look... That's a badge of honor. I'm not the greatest cook. What can I say? Have you ever tried to write a diss track in response? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like a response diss track? Back to... I tried, but I just... I would start and then I'd feel so bad. I would say, like, your name is Wonder Mike. I wonder if you even know where the mic is. And then I would think, no, he knows where it is. He's a better rapper than you are.
Starting point is 00:37:26 He's a better rapper than me. Of course he does. You took their structure and sort of turned it to your advantage. Like, you ever have friends come over to your house and they're just really rude guests and spit out your food? Well, I mean, I would do that, but it would be a fabrication. They were perfectly nice. So, for your experience, you had a lovely time with your friends.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I thought I knocked it out of the park. Wow. That's heartbreaking, actually. I had my famous wet macaroni. Oh. Out of curiosity. How wet does it get? I would say it gets downright soggy.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So you got that soggy Mac. I had to put mushy peas. Oh, yeah. Because my mother's from England. I didn't... Maybe I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, wow. The peas were mush.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. And then I had my chicken, which is slow roasted over a wood fire. Oh, wow. It sometimes falls into the wood. Oh. So it's maybe burned a little bit? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:24 It might affect the taste. And what did they say about it? They said the chicken tasted like wood. That's very hard to do. It's very hard to get chicken to taste like wood. Yeah. I don't think it really tasted that much like wood, but it definitely puts you in mind of wood when you ate it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Okay. Have you ever tried having a dinner party for redemption where the food tastes great? A dinner party redemption? Sure. Have you ever gone on that show, Dinner Party Redemption? No. That's my favorite Gordon Ramsay show.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I've never had a dinner party since, because I'm so afraid dinner party redemption will come to my house, and the host will yell at me. What are you doing, Cal? Oh, call me a donkey. This mac is too sopping wet. You don't want to be called a donkey by Gordon Ramsay. No.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Okay. What if it were Shrek? If it was Shrek and I was reincarnated as a donkey, then fine. Why didn't the donkey have a name? Did he not have a name? No. Did you just call him donkey? Well, I mean, huh.
Starting point is 00:39:45 This really undid you. That sucks. I felt bad for him. Yeah. Because he was a human being? Is that right? I can't remember Shrek lore. Wait.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I've never seen it, but I think he was just a regular old donkey. Who could talk? That's what I thought, too, but maybe I don't know. I don't think I saw them all. Is it revealed that he's like... Let's ask the doctor. So is the... Are all donkeys human beings?
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, are all donkeys human beings? Okay. Okay. Is it one of those things where all human beings are donkeys, but not all donkeys are human beings? Could be. Heyo. Heyo.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Hi. Cal, you're such a genial, wonderful, older gentleman. How old... Yeah, how old are you, Cal? I mean, roughly. I'm not of a certain age. Yeah, okay. Great.
Starting point is 00:40:39 You wrote something for the book, but also I wanted to show everyone your biography that's in the book if we could go to that slide. Sure. Because there's a wonderful picture of you. Uh... We're all looking at it... at the screen as if it's going to change any moment.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Is it a magic eye slide? How long do I stare at it? Oh, I see a dolphin. I... Wow. Let's all look back and it'll just appear. Is this a prank? I did. It's not a prank.
Starting point is 00:41:15 It's a pretty good one. Idiot. Idiot. I was foolish to trust you. It's funny. No, Johnny Knoxville, I... I'm not trying to prank you. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It'll show up. Engineer Brett, are you back there? Are you trying to do the slide? Pfft. The show is going seamlessly. Home run. Really? There I am.
Starting point is 00:41:52 There you are. You have your signature... Are you in breath fighting? What? No, Scott, are you in breath fighting? I don't... I think it was really funny. What?
Starting point is 00:42:03 No, Scott, are you in breath fighting? I don't... I think it was really worth the plane ticket. Could've hired any... I could've hired this guy. This guy. Don't antagonize. It means almost on stage.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Meanwhile, once again, my side remains unguarded completely. Maybe it's like one of those statues from Doctor Who that you were talking about. Really? Oh boy, when you let him frozen. That's right, but then you blink and then uh oh. Uh oh, so much closer. I like science fiction sometimes. Really?
Starting point is 00:42:40 What's your favorite? Blake's Seven. You know, Big Chunky Bubble said that last night. Really? Yeah. What's it called? Blake's Seven. Blake's Seven?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, it's a British TV show about people in space. Oh, I love that. Seven of them. Are it British people? Yeah. Have you watched Red Dwarf? I'm a fan of Red Dwarf. Also a British show about people in space.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Red Little Person. I haven't seen it. No. What's it about? People in space. Oh, maybe I'd like it. That's why I brought it up. As a suggestion, you might like it.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Any other shows about people in space? Oh, lost in space. I mean, they're in space. They don't want to be in space though. I'll pass on that one. They'd rather be on earth. I guess I like shows about people who want to be there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, found in space is maybe something you would like to be. But they were there, they were lost for a little bit. Do you not like Voyager because they got lost in the wormhole? What are you talking about? Star Trek Voyager? I don't know what that is. Do you know what Star Trek is? No.
Starting point is 00:43:45 This is cool. This is... We are learning so much about Cal tonight. What is it? Cal's living in one of those, like, yesterday worlds. The movie, the Danny Brougham movie yesterday, where he doesn't know that Star Trek exists. I heard that Blank Check is going to cover that this week. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:03 The most annoying fan base in podcasts. Yes. Garbage, trash. But you... Star Trek, how does one describe Star Trek? They're on a five-year mission. They go up in the USS Enterprise, which is a big spaceship. Captain Kirk, have you ever heard anyone talk about him?
Starting point is 00:44:20 No. Sounds good. I'm on board. William Shatner? Who? Shatner from Boston Public. Shit My Dad Says. Oh, yeah. Hey, why'd they cancel that show?
Starting point is 00:44:30 He said too much shit. He said... I was really enjoying the shit that he was saying. Pardon my language. No. You're not a guy who curses. I don't really curse that much, no. No.
Starting point is 00:44:41 But when you're saying the title of a show, you're... Yeah, of course. I want to respect the creators. But what if in your raps you cursed a little more? Because I was listening to the radio the other day and a Ja Rule song came up and I was like... Remember in the 2000s when every song you'd hear would have the word motherfucker in it? Do you pronounce this name Ja Rule? If you're classy.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I mean, I'm drinking Rose. So I guess I'll say Ja Rule. But every song had the word motherfucker in it repeatedly. It's such a weird part of music history. I mean, I guess I could try it. Yeah, do you want to try it right now? Sure. Do you need a subject matter or...?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Um, yeah. Okay, can we go to the crowd for this? Go to the doctor. Okay, doctor. Without getting too specifically medical, what subject matter would you like Al to rap about? The prostate. Okay. Should I give you a beat?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. Hey, you piece of shit, did you ever go to see a doctor and have your prostate checked? Well, you dumb fuck, he puts a finger in your ass, then you say motherfucker, get it out of there. Why did you do it? I'm only 10 years old. Wait a minute. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Whoa. Whoa. Cal, I'm not going to lie Cal, this might be... You might have just cracked something open. I just got a text, the sugar ale gang wants you back. Do you know what happened then? You found your voice? Yes, what happened?
Starting point is 00:46:27 In my mind, I was like, okay, make it an age that's too young to get your prostate checked. And then reduced by 20. I think 10 popped in because it was one syllable. You were trapped in syllabic prison? I really was. Well, look, I'm not a great rapper. And so... By the way, up until now I would agree, but based on what I just saw, disagree.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah, you had something. You just saw you come into your own. Did I have any rhymes? Who needs them when you have whatever that was? You don't need rhymes. You need to tell a story. This really opens up a whole new world for me because I thought rap had to rhyme. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Who decided that at the beginning of rap? It's so weird, right? Probably Big Bank Hank. Oh, sure. The other guy. So now modern raps, are they not rhyming at all? They don't have... You can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You can rap. Rhyme or not? Jason, I feel like you're being kind to me, but I feel like you're skirting the question. Are there raps that don't have rhymes in them? Oh, there are many raps that don't have rhymes in them. Jason... No. Rhyming is still a big part, right?
Starting point is 00:47:47 It really is. It really is. I had a feeling. But don't feel bad that don't feel like that needs to exclude you from rap. Yeah, there have been pioneers in so many fields. It's true, you know. Wow. That was the pep talk I needed.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Wow, Scott. Scott, you are a good dad. Okay. You could pioneer non-ryming rap. Yeah. About 10-year-olds getting prostate checks. To live crew, it will be taken off of the shelves. Tipper Gore might get involved.
Starting point is 00:48:33 That would be fun. Now, hang on. What she's up to? What she's up to? What she's up to? What is she up to these days? Don't Google that. Why?
Starting point is 00:48:44 Is this something bad? She passed away. What? Did they suspect foul play? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at her faces on the case. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Look how we're looking at your photo. Yeah. When in doubt, go to the slide. The words cover it up, but I'm giving a thumbs up. You are. You're giving a thumbs up right there, and you're wearing your signature hat. Rap.
Starting point is 00:49:17 That says rap, which we talked about it on an episode. It used to say crap, but you took out the stitching of the seat. R-A-P. Oh, W-R-I-P. Yeah. Right. I understand why you filled that in. Was it a rap gift from something?
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah. Yeah. From the Americans, perhaps? Yeah. A lot of people, maybe you don't know, it's right there in his bio. The show The Americans was based on a situation that happened to you in your life. Yeah. You used to work for the CIA.
Starting point is 00:49:48 That's right. And you had some neighbors that you were exceptionally close to. Yeah, and then it turns out they were Russian agents, and they were always wearing wigs and glasses. Were you able to tell they were wigs and glasses, or? Afterward, sure. Wow, but you interacted with them quite a bit and didn't clock any of those. We had dinner at each other's houses.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Wow. Yeah. But, you know, at that time, you know, in the early 80s, everybody looked like they were wearing a wig. True. It's true. You didn't notice they smelt of spirit gum and... I just thought that's the way they smelled. Some people smell weird.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah. I guess. Yeah. I mean, it's a terrible situation. They based the TV show. There was a character... Yeah. Based on you.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Stan Beeman. Did you... Was there, at any point during the process of the making of the show, did they consider you to play the part inspired by your real life? I didn't know they were making the show at all. And then the night of the premiere, somebody dropped that hat off of my house. Wow. Just the hat. Well, there was a note.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Just the hat that said rap? There was a note that said, Dear Cal, please enjoy this rap gift from the series premiere of The Americans. By the way, this series is based on the end of your career at the CIA when you were fired and disgraced. Sorry. Oh, so they apologized. They did, but... More of sorry for the situation, not saying that they had any culpability in it, right? I thought they were saying, sorry we made a show about the most humiliating moment of your life and didn't tell you.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But are you thinking they're saying, sorry, we didn't have anything to do with... No, I feel like they were saying, we feel empathy, we are sorry empathetically about your situation, but we're not going to change our behavior. I didn't get that from it. I got that they were saying, we did this and it's going to make you feel bad, but here's a hat. Let me ask. It balances out the other side of the scale. Did the hat make you feel better? It did.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I mean, not for nothing. The hat made it into the book. It's a good hat. I mean, it's right there. I mean, it's been a real boom in that sense. When you saw the hat, did you consider leaving the W on or did you get a seed of an idea germinating? Well, when I got the hat, it was clearly very cheaply made and the word rap was off-center. And so...
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah, because that rap is right in the center. Yeah. So you can imagine the W really throwing this out of whack. Yeah. So I got a seam ripper and I just took the W out. Did you ever consider taking the R out? Why? So it could just say AP?
Starting point is 00:52:52 No, it'd be WAP. Oh. Uh... But it would be W... AP. Although, maybe a better song, wet, ass pussy. That, I mean, that pause is so pregnant. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:12 That pause is like, what? What's wet? Ass pussy? Okay. All right. I didn't see that coming. But don't you think it's confusing? How so?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Because the pause makes it seem like you're part of the expression, ass pussy, is a specific thing. So you're saying it's almost as if the A and the P are hyphenated like wet, ass pussy? I mean... Yeah. I would think that would be the Strunk and White in that situation. My favorite... The elements of style. That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I'm gonna say it's my favorite Bond villain. Wet. Ass pussy. I thought you meant Strunk and White. No. Strunk and... What if they showed up in a Bond movie? Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Oh, my God. Look out. Everybody's grammar's in trouble. I'm just imagining that for a while. Take your time. Yep. Thank you. I had to take the W off and you were like, hey, this fits in with my ultimate goal, which is to be a rapper.
Starting point is 00:54:21 To be a rapper. Incredible. And so I wear it for all my rap shows. Are you doing live shows? How many rap shows are there? Yeah, I didn't know you were performing live. I've done a bunch. I'm sort of doing micro touring, which is I do various places in the same town.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Which town? The town you live in? Yeah. Which is where, in just in case anybody wants to come down and support and see you and, you know... In Paterson, New Jersey. Great. Paterson, New Jersey represent? P&J.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So you're doing... When you say you're doing little shows around town, these are at local businesses or... It's a series of outdoor concerts. Is there, in Paterson, is there like an outdoor amphitheater? Parks. Is there some sort of venue? No, I'm going a different way with it. Great.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Where anything can be a stage in a venue. Is this... All the world's a stage? Yeah, sure. The Immortal Bar. The Immortal Bar. Yeah. We are mere players.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Speak the speech. Outdown spot. Are you saying, though, that you're... Are you just doing this on the street? I was quoting Rush. Red Barchetta. What about that song, Trees, where they talk about how mean the trees are? Honest to God, trees are fucking mean, though.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Was this used in the film, The Happening? Boy, what a scary movie that was. Oh, boy. When the plants got mad, and they were like, we're going to make you walk backwards for a little bit. And then you're dead. And everybody had to run away from the plants. I mean, if I had to walk backwards,
Starting point is 00:56:35 like, how far do you think you could walk backwards without tripping? Four feet. That's about right. So it's dangerous. It is. That's why I don't do it. I walk straight ahead. Unless I'm opening a garage door. Good point.
Starting point is 00:56:56 You don't have a clicker? No. I felt like I could become a target if I had electronics like that in my house. You'd become a target? Well, he worked for the CIA. Sure. Oh, you mean like they used the electronics to spy on you or to... To prank me.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Oh, to prank you. A lot of the old guys from back in those days, you know, some... CIA, they're like jackass. They're notorious pranksters. Well, no, not the CIA. They're KGB. Oh, I see. They're not just that are held in the intelligence forces. But if you humiliate yourself, then they just prank you. And so these guys would prank me a lot.
Starting point is 00:57:36 What were some of the things that they would do? Well, sometimes I'd be on the phone and I would hear, you know, on the landline to hear like a clicking. And I was like, somebody's listening in on this call. And then I'd hear a Russian guy say, yeah, it's us, Cal. We got you. Wow, so you really... You knew what was going on, but you just didn't see it as a... Did they fire you or did they just offload you to some section? No, they really fired me. They fired me hard.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And they said, they made it really clear when I got fired. They said, Cal, you're fired. And I want you to know, you're completely fired. And there's no way back from this. You're done. You're fired. But did you show up the next day? Yeah, George Costanz... Yeah, I thought it was a prank. And they said, Cal, I know we do a lot of pranks around here, but this is not one of them. You're fired. And if you come back here again, we're going to take away your pension.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And I said, what do I do here? Because you don't want to fall for it. You don't want to fall for it? Yeah, I mean, that could be... You don't want to fall for another prank. Yeah, like you don't show up the next day and they arrive at your house. They're like, what are you doing? So here's what I did. I paid a guy to dress up like me. Smart.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And go in there. And then as soon as they said we're taking away your pension, rip off his disguise and say, ha ha, I got you. And then he was executed. So that's you pranking the prankers? Yeah. And so then what happened? He was executed. Because you can't just go into the CIA. Oh, God. And do you feel at all like that blood is on your hands?
Starting point is 00:59:09 I feel bad about it, but... How did you know him? How did you find him? I put an ad in the paper. So this was casting? This was just... You put a call out? Somebody that looks like you? Yeah, as I said, fun prank. Costume will be provided. What was the... What was the costume?
Starting point is 00:59:27 My guess is it was this. It was just my clothes. Yeah. Remember his only jacket? Shade of Hildan T-shirt. Some pleated khakis. A replica of the wrap-up because I didn't want to lose that. How'd you get a replica? I made one.
Starting point is 00:59:43 So you would go to the CIA office wearing the wrap-up? No, no, no. Wait, I'm getting my timeline wrong. Because I was exiled to New Jersey, and that's when I met the Sugar Hill gang. Oh. Right. So I wouldn't have had the wrap-up. Or am I trying to throw you off the trail? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:00:01 It's interesting. Like, wouldn't this be incredible if you were still in the CIA now? Can you imagine? And this was all some sort of... You're not, are you? Of course not. Why would I be? Everything I say is true all the time. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:16 If we ask you, you have to tell us the truth. Because, like, it would be so smart of them, knowing what's going on, to embed someone in podcasts. Yeah. To try to cancel us. Did you say, if you ask... Did you say, if you ask me, I have to tell you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 That's not true. It's not? No. That's from movies. He can lie to you, if you want. Who lies more than the cops? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I mean, a lot of people think that's true, but the cops don't operate by Rumpelstiltskin rules. Yeah. That's why you're constantly having to give them your babies. Every undercover operation would be foiled immediately. I like how this back here keeps coming up, connecting to Brett's iPhone. That was happening last night, too.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So you're... But, I mean, you would tell us, right? I mean... Of course I would. I love you guys. I would tell you if I was in the CIA. But I'm not. You're not.
Starting point is 01:01:28 No. I don't think I ever was, frankly. Oh, wow. So you think the whole thing was a prank? So... Wait. So do you think... So you have the same relationship to the CIA
Starting point is 01:01:45 that you think you had to the sugar hill gang? So your entire... Your entire life story is a series of pranks or misunderstandings? Someone in here furiously updating a wiki. We learn so much about you, Cal. It's so incredible. Cal Solomon, everyone. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Cal, can you... can you stick around? Sure. I don't have anywhere to be. You don't have to go back to New Jersey? No, or the CIA. Or the sugar hill gang. Do you come into the city often? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That's great. I go to juniors and eat a cheesecake. A full cheesecake? Over the course of the day. I go to New Jersey. I go to New Jersey. I go to New Jersey. I go to New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I go to New Jersey. I go to New Jersey. I go to New Jersey. Over the course of the day. Yeah. I call it Cheesecake Day. Wow. It's like that scene in the Rooney Mara movie.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Who? Let's introduce our next guest. Let's catch our next guest. He is... Do you know who it is? I do. I'm trying to describe him. He's a...
Starting point is 01:03:07 Well, he's a very interesting person. You're doing great. He's a man of the cloth. Please welcome Pastor Pastor. Brooklyn, New York. What an amazing city. Hallelujah, Scott. Hallelujah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Hallelujah. PP. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah to you. Hallelujah to you, though. Cal, have you ever met Pastor Pastor here? I don't believe so.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Hallelujah, Grace. Oh. My Grace. No, it's a pleasure to meet you. Cal. Yeah. Cal, Cal. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Do you like Pastor? Sure I do. What else do you like? Um... Spaghetti. Basic. Okay. Cal, do you consider yourself to be a basic bitch?
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah, sure. Cal, you're so agreeable. I like you. I like you, too. Okay, very cool. I figured you'd say that. Is it... Do you mind if I'm not overly religious?
Starting point is 01:04:28 Is that okay? Well, uh... Well, let me ask some more questions. Sure. What do you believe in? Um, you're born on Earth, you live for a while, and then you go to the void. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Okay. All right. And do you believe in the void could be a heaven or a hell? No, it's just blackness. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. I don't actually deal with the afterlife.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I never thought about it myself. Really? Really? I never thought about it. Because Pastor Pastor Pastor... I literally worship Pastor. And what I'll tell you, Pastor ain't gonna save you. But it will fill you up.
Starting point is 01:05:11 And that's a fact. Did you come up with a name first, or did you... Do you mean my name? Yeah, I mean, meaning, like, were you already named Pastor Pastor? And you were like, oh... Yeah, when I was born, yeah. My mother named me Pastor Pastor. She knew I was gonna be a clergyman.
Starting point is 01:05:33 She knew. She did know. She did know. So then... So she named you Pastor Pastor. And then you became a person of the cloth. So are you Father Pastor Pastor? Father Pastor...
Starting point is 01:05:46 Let me think about this for a second. Everyone look away. Everyone look back to the back of the room. Can we turn the lights out completely? Turn the lights out completely. Look at the doctor. Lights out completely. Lights totally out if we could.
Starting point is 01:05:59 So blackout. So much so that it's dangerous. Yeah. Including the exit signs, if we could. And turn off the fire alarms. Is that possible? Yeah. And lock the doors, please.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And the gates. No. Well, you know what? I'm not Catholic. I'm not Catholic. Oh, okay. Oh. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Oh. Yeah, I'm not... Cal, did you just want to make a noise because we were making noise? Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to show that I was paying attention too. Now, Cal, if your friends jumped off a bridge,
Starting point is 01:06:32 would you do it too? Hmm. It's fun. I should... I think about it. If they made, like, a fun noise on the way down, I'd be tempted. But what if they made a painful noise
Starting point is 01:06:43 when they got there? That would probably keep me on the other side of the bridge. Yeah. Okay. Well, no. No, I'm not Catholic. I just want to be clear here. I don't believe in God.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Okay. You don't... Don't believe in God at all. No, no. I'm an atheist. You are an atheist. Sure, I'm an atheist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Sure. That sounds about right to me. I believe in pasta. Sure. Pasta has never let me down. Do you know I'm gluten-free now, though? Wow. This is an astonishing new wrinkle.
Starting point is 01:07:13 This is a huge update to the Wiki. I'm gluten-free. I'm gluten-free. Wow, that's huge. What happened? Congrats. Well, I had rage and diarrhea. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Wow. And the doctors, they did all kinds of tests on me and they discovered I'm gluten-free. They discovered I had a lot of gluten in me but I should be gluten-free. There's a doctor back here if you want a consultation. There's a doctor here.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah. There's a doctor. I only see the doctor. So if you need... If y'all turn the lights off, lock all the doors. If you need a second opinion, he's right there.
Starting point is 01:07:41 There's a doctor. What kind of second opinion would he assess my fecal matter? I don't know. Are you cool with assessing fecal matter while you're here, sir? I don't hear a yes. But it's also not a no.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I feel like it's been a different voice from the doctor every single time. It's almost like a different person playing the doctor. Oh. Oh, boy. Right, Jason? No.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So... So I got here... I came here all the way from Italy. Please don't waste my time. You're from Italy now. Yeah. Where do you live? I was in Italy.
Starting point is 01:08:22 You were in Italy. Yeah. Where? I don't know. Worth it. That one was for Cal. That's good. A little inside joke.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Yeah. That's beautiful. I've been there. Cal told me I should say that backstage. Oh, good for you, Cal. That's great. Thanks. Cal actually said he didn't want credit for that.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Beg me not to give him credit. It did a lot better than I expected. It did well. I told you it was good. And I told you... But it also genuinely appeared to be a genuine miss here at the moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It's true. Anyway, we don't have to walk this joke out too much further. I think it did what it needed to do. Yeah, I'm from Pastatano, Italy. So you are from there. Yeah. The seaside... The beautiful seaside.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Oh, no. I'm so sorry. I'm jet-logged. I am jet... That's when you're constipated. I'm jet-logged. You know when you travel, you tend to get constipated? Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah, well, that's what happened. Oh, I get it. They got a name for this week. All sorts of backed up. XL kinds of backed up. Real backed up. Jet-logged. It's the only time my poop is solid is when I travel.
Starting point is 01:09:47 But it's gonna be solid now because I'm not doing gluten no more. So, yes, I'm coming from... I'm coming... We're learning so much. We're learning so much. I'll take that from you. You don't need that.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I'm coming... I'm coming from Pastatano. Beautiful. Sir, do you have questions for me? No, please. Go ahead. No, don't give him... Don't give him that microphone.
Starting point is 01:10:16 If you must. If you must here. No, I was saying he should give you his. Okay, give me that back. I'm not giving mine up. I would love to just... I just want to look at it to see what... It makes sure it works.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Hello? Okay, yeah, okay. So, I'm from... Would you like mine? No, I like you. Okay. Okay, that's enough of that. I almost did not want it back.
Starting point is 01:10:42 The show would be so much more fun to do if I... Just got to sit back and watch... To talk to her again. Are you a fan of your own program? Am I a video what? I believe the Pastatano. Are you a fan of your own program? Oh, uh, sure.
Starting point is 01:10:58 But now you... But now you got me wondering. Did you say I'm not a video what? It felt like a setup. You wanted me to ask you if you were a video vixen. So, fine. Are you a video vixen, Scott? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Okay. Yeah. Anyway, all kinds of backed up and out of sorts over here, all right? Yeah. Because in Italy, you can't get gluten-free pasta. Right, yeah, it's illegal there. Oh, boy. It's illegal.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I did go to jail for a little bit. Oh, no. But my trip was supposed to be one week. I spent a month in jail. Oh, no. So I was in my weeks total. Yeah. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Y'all don't want to ask me what I did? Of course. What did you do? You're not supposed to ask a prisoner what they did to get in. Really? Okay. So then we won't. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:45 So what? Scott, Scott's obsessed with the fact that a photographer has arrived behind you. Okay. Well, let's all pose. Okay. Now, what do we say? I can't help but notice the man guarding the stairs is gone. So they're like, it's a free fall down.
Starting point is 01:12:09 No, he's right there. He's on his phone. Yeah. He's down there. Different. I don't feel safe. He's just scrolling away. You know, the photographer was able to access the stairs.
Starting point is 01:12:20 No problem. Anybody can walk up here and punch all of us. Yeah. Maybe he's calling for backup. That's the deal. If you want to get up here, just carry the camera with you wherever you go. Next thing you know, it's almost like the, the, the, the third act of the bodyguard where the, there was the gun in the.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah. Go on. Gun in a video camera. Yeah. Oh yeah. Absolutely. You ever seen that movie? I've seen that movie.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I haven't seen many movies, but that's one I've seen. Oh, that's great. Do you remember the three rules from the poster? Okay. See now. That's where you lose me. Never. Is that a movie?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yeah. From the bodyguard. Okay. Keep going. Did you think the three rules from the poster was the name of a movie? Listen again. I can't stress how out of sorts I am. I understand.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Totally jet logged. I jet logged in jet lagged. Okay. Of course. I can. But when you're constipated, you can't think straight. No. Try it.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Because you've got shit for, try, try. You've got shit for brains. How many people up here constipated? Oh. It's, you probably got a gluten intolerance. It's, it's definitely that. You got a gluten intolerance. So tell me about the three wolves.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Well, there's always one I can't remember. But the first one is never let her out of your sight. Okay. File missing. Okay. Then never fall in love. Okay. You know, I don't remember these details of the film.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I usually listen to it with the sound off. Everybody's just so beautiful in it. Because for you, Whitney Houston is best enjoyed without her vocal performance. You feel like she's, she's, that's where, that detracts from the performance. I think so, yes, I stand by it. I stand by it. Yes. You watch her national anthem too.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I have seen the national anthem. I've seen it. Were you, were you kneeling during it? With the sound on or off? No, I'm standing baby. I'm standing. I'm taking my hat off. I go get a hat just to take it off.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah. I stand on a table during it. Oh, really? That's how much, that's how we do it. So and Ty, what are you? What is that? What does that mean? Tell us more.
Starting point is 01:14:36 You don't want your feet on America's ground? Tell us more about you standing on a table during the national anthem. I guess the opposite of kneeling would be getting up on tippy toes. Cal. Stretching up. Cal, did you graduate high school? I sure did. Very intro, they just let anybody graduate.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And I say that would all do respect. That's how I take it. All do respect. Certainly, I would never disrespect anybody up here, ever. Anyway, give me that microphone. I don't want to get distracted by your questions. I'm the problem here. No, no, no, Cal.
Starting point is 01:15:25 I'm sorry. Cal, we're friends now. How long were you in Positano? Oh, questions. Okay. I was there for five weeks. It's like nobody ever listens to me. And was it a food-based tour?
Starting point is 01:15:41 I was in prison for four. Sure. I was in prison for four. I was there hanging for one. I did one week. I was there for five weeks. I meant to be there one. Am I lying?
Starting point is 01:15:53 Scott, you don't have a microphone, honey. Prior to being imprisoned, were you on a food-based tour? Were you learning about new pastas? Or were you just consuming all sorts of delicious food? What was the point of the trip? I was looking for a lover. Whoa. I love that.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I was looking for a lover. I wanted an Italian lover. I want somebody to make me pasta. I got one of them pasta makers for Christmas. So this is like an eat, pray, love scenario? I was mainly just eating. Yep. I was mainly eating.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Scott wants to say something here. He's pouting. He was pouting. What? Nothing worse than something. Go ahead. Go ahead, Scott. What?
Starting point is 01:16:39 So you got a pasta maker for your birthday or for Christmas? For Christmas. But you don't know how to use it. I didn't know how to use it. So what do you do? You try to find somebody. I flew to Italy. I flew to Italy to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Right. Why is that funny, Cal? Oh, I'm sorry, I was thinking of something else. What? No, Cal, you got to tell us. What were you thinking? What were you thinking? I was thinking of when I got recruited for the CIA out of college.
Starting point is 01:17:03 How long did you do it? Get recruited? Yeah, how long? Took all day, didn't it? How long were they pursuing you? Well, they said they were looking at me since senior year of high school. Okay. Because I bugged all my classrooms.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Oh, okay. Wow. Like you're like a little wire tamper, like a junior Anthony Pelikano? Yeah. I thought the teachers were so interesting. I wanted to hear what they talked about when we weren't around. Oh, that's dangerous. You know what?
Starting point is 01:17:30 That's pretty smart. That is interesting. Anything juicy come up? No, they were just all alcoholics. Oh. Very interesting. So I went to Pasta Tano to learn how to make pasta. You were there for four weeks.
Starting point is 01:17:46 And to find a lover. Yeah, I was there for five weeks. You were in prison for four. Four, yeah. Right. Did you get your back blown out or? Or did you learn how to make a solid tagliatelle? Why I did both.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Was it by the same person? I had plenty of time. No. My back blown out just once. Okay. I didn't ask just once. How many times did it happen? At least three times.
Starting point is 01:18:23 So four. You want to know an exact number? Yes, four. Once a week? Once a week. So while you were in prison? In prison, I was not getting my back blown out. I was making pasta, actually.
Starting point is 01:18:42 You know, I never... Like good fellas? Like in good fellas when they make pasta? I've never seen that. Tell me more. Oh, wow. Tell me more. Well, they make pasta in prison.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It's a very long sequence in which they're in prison, but they're doing all of the machinations of making a delicious pasta dinner. They do? Okay. Well, then yeah, like good fellas. Sounds boring. It sounds boring.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I don't remember this. If you've not seen, you've not seen good fellas. I've seen it. It just sounds boring. That's okay. I thought maybe you were making pasta like, here we make the fellas make license plates. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Okay. That's where the pasta... Really hard raviolis that people put on the back of their cars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like... Whatever you make in prison,
Starting point is 01:19:23 come out the same consistency. It's got to go on the back of a car, whatever you make. We would actually make the pastas with olive gardens in Italy. Wow. There are olive gardens in Italy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Really? I wouldn't expect that. I mean, there's so much... Really? Really? Yeah. Okay. Don't make me take that mic.
Starting point is 01:19:44 All right. I'm sorry. Did you go to any of the olive gardens or were you focused mainly on... No, no. I was focused mainly on, well, what were you going to say? I was going to say the Italian restaurants
Starting point is 01:19:53 that are not American chain restaurants. Yes. What did you think he was going to say? Well, you know, I started... You got to let people finish their sentences. Yeah. It's a thing. I didn't even know what I thought he was going to say.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Yeah. I just jumped right in there. So, is this a relationship, the person... Who was blowing my back out? Yeah. No. No strings attached. And sink style.
Starting point is 01:20:17 No. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Bye, bye, bye. Then I went to jail. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:27 We said bye, bye, bye. And I went to jail. Well, we said bye four times. And then I went to jail. Yeah. I spent a little... But I learned how to... I did learn how to make a tagliatelle.
Starting point is 01:20:35 That's great. Yeah. And I will never tagliatelle. You got to do it. This is a comedy podcast, right? Sort of. Did Cal give you that one, too? Cal did give me that one backstage as well.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Cal... Cal said he wanted credit for that one. He said, this one's yours for free, but I want credit for this one. That's one. Yeah, yeah. But I... It was fantastic.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I went to jail. It was beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Even jail in Italy is beautiful. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's... Everyone's handsome and strong and olive-skinned.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah, it's gorgeous. What, Scott? Have I made you upset? You're looking at me with such disdain and disbelief. I am not. Have you ever been to jail in Italy? That's just Scott's resting bitch face. How do you feel about your co-host calling you a bitch?
Starting point is 01:21:32 It's fine. Dude, Pastor, are you a... Are you a man or a woman? I've never been able to figure it out. Well, actually, you know, I was gonna say something when you said about my back getting blown out. I was gonna ask you if you thought I was a man or a woman. At this point, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I don't think I've ever known. Scott, I don't know if we're legally allowed to ask that. You're not allowed to ask. In the workplace. But I am a man. You are. Okay. Clergy man.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Okay. Yeah. And that's canon? Short knit. That's Nick Cannon, yeah. This is a comedy podcast, right? Yes. So that joke has 12 kills.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Okay. That's a legacy joke. Okay. Well, are you just yesin' me? Okay. Please. Anybody? I'm an open book.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I am curious. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is.
Starting point is 01:22:27 As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is.
Starting point is 01:22:36 As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is.
Starting point is 01:22:44 As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is.
Starting point is 01:22:52 As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. As is. Well, that's a bit of a complicated question because I'm in a tiff with my landlord.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Oh, no. Yeah, we got to film into the Toronto International Film Festival. So you and your landlord made a film together? Oh, my God. That is huge. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Thank you so much. I made so many films that premiere at Toronto go on to be Academy Award nominees. That's incredible. Cal, did you want to say something? Can you give us a taste of what it's about? I mean, this is exciting news, Pastor Pastor. Congrats. A real filmmaker here.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Um, I can give you an absolute, I absolutely can and will give you a taste. The film is, well, also I just want to say, well, no, let me stay on track here. The film is about, um, stop looking at me like that. Do you want us to turn our backs to you? Everybody turn, everybody in the house turn your backs to you. Everyone turn your backs to, to, to, to, to Cal. Okay. Indignant.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Indignant. The film, and I'm going to just close my eyes. Can we get, can we get the lights out? Maybe we could turn, they will not turn the lights out. They will not turn. They turned them even higher when we asked. They do not respect that request. It's a liability issue.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Okay. The, the film is about a mouse, the film, not Mickey, not Stuart. Are we just eliminating mice now to see which mouse it ends up being or? That's good. That's a good tip for screenplays. So when you, when you introduce the character, make sure you, you steer people on the right path, say, it's not this guy, it's not that guy. I just wanted, this is how we pitched it as well.
Starting point is 01:25:51 And we got funding and got into TIFF. Okay. So it's about a mouse, not Stuart, not Mickey, that has been living in this abandoned home for some time. Some big wig developers come to, it's not a comedy now, this is a, this is a drama. Some big wig developers come to renovate the place. They offer the mouse some money to, to, to give them the mouse, they offer the mouse. Are the developers also rodents?
Starting point is 01:26:25 No, no, no. These are people. So the, the people respect the mouse's ownership of the property? Well, this, this film takes place in year 2075. Whoa. We have a community with animals. You're really bad at the lead. I got an idea.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Let's just roll the clip. Okay. Okay. You. Do we have the clip? Okay. Let's roll the clip. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Let's roll it. Hello. No, are you a mouse or a human? Who me? Who's this man? Mouse or a human? Huh? Why, I'm a mouse of course.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Okay. How long have you lived here? For approximately seven years. Well, I think this human is pandering to us. I told you I'm a fucking mouse. No, this, this fucking mouse isn't a mouse. Are we all mice? I thought we were all mice.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Oh, okay. We're all mice, yeah. We're developer mice. But who is knocking at the door? Me. Wait, do you live with me? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Let's pause the clip. Let's pause the clip. Wow. Wow. That was, that was gripping. I love a movie. See, that's what I loved about this movie as opposed to so many other movies is this movie dares to endeavor to help us understand how these people come to understand who they
Starting point is 01:27:58 are to each other. Right. I don't think I've ever seen a movie where the characters didn't seem to know where they were, who they were, their relationship. But fearlessly examining it. But that's the beauty of it. That's the, how often do you find yourself lost and wondering who am I, where am I? Well, not often.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Does that happen to you? These are the tenets of improv. Ask more questions. Forget location. Forget relationship. No, but. No, but always. Always.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Discredit your scene partner. Throw them under the bus if there's no bus in sight, build a bus and throw them under. Okay, let's keep going. I see there's three minutes left in this clip. We may be only have time for about 30 seconds more, but let's, let's run the clip. Oh, but Scott, Scott, I don't want to show a clip, it can't be incomplete. I'm sorry. Well, no, okay, we'll, we'll do the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Okay, yeah. So, um, I'm, I'm a mouse. I live here too. Oh. How long have you lived here? You're my roommate? Yeah, I guess. Well, who the fuck is this guy?
Starting point is 01:29:13 I'm not Stuart, and I'm not Mickey. Okay. Okay. Wow. My name is Judge Dredd, the mouse. Judge Dredd, the mouse? Surprise. Dude.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Okay, I got to pause it again. Whoa. Okay. Wow. Now, obviously for people listening at home, the Judge Dredd mouse reveal will be new, but visually, we saw the mouse in the helmet, so we knew what was coming, but it still was electric. Like he confirmed it.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Well, we, we, my landlord and I made a movie that could also just be enjoyed as a podcast. That was our whole goal. Visually, yes, it's beautifully shot, directed. We got Spielberg to direct it. So smart. Spielberg directed it. And that, is it Steven Spielberg? Mark Spielberg.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Mark Spielberg. Got it. Mark. Mark. No relation to Steven either. As far as you can get. He made that movie The Story Guys. Yes.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Oh, have you seen The Story Guys? Yeah. Oh, that's okay. We should see The Story Guys. Well, let's go back to the clip. Let's roll the clip. Yep. So what is your business here, Judge Dredd?
Starting point is 01:30:32 I like that everybody's looking back at it. Everybody's like, that's where the screen is. That's where the screen is, of course, that we're all watching the clip on. Let's back the clip up one second. Yep. So what is your... Brett, hold on. I don't think you did it.
Starting point is 01:30:49 We'll back it up one more second. Can you go back one second? Okay. All right. So what is your business here, Judge Dredd? The Mouse? I'm working as a developer now, and I'm going to steamroll your house. I thought, from the description, the developers were humans.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Surprise! I wanted to pause the movie. I just want to pause the movie. But you're going to pause. Okay. Yeah, because the developers are... They are humans, but first, a mouse comes. A mouse...
Starting point is 01:31:15 A mouse developer comes. You don't need to tell me this. Okay. Like, the mouse is the envoy of the humans. I was ahead of it. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Fine. Play the movie. I'm just fucking around. With what part? The Judge Dredd part? Yeah, man. I'm not a developer. I'm not even really a mouse.
Starting point is 01:31:31 You're not a mouse? What are you then? I'm a hamster and a half. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's different.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Yeah, different. Different. Do you have somewhere to live? Not as such. Wow. We live together, right? Oh, message received. I'll go fucking kill myself.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Oh, wow. Let's pause it there. Let's pause, yeah. Only because... Wow. That's a pretty dark topic to include in this film. Well... I feel like he took it the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Yeah. Well, no. Well, this is the thing. This film touches all kinds of themes that people can't... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of themes that people can relate to. We've all felt a little down and out at times. Of course. Sure. And wondered what it would be like to not be here, right?
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah. Right here on stage. Right here on stage. Transpose... To transpose those emotions onto... To grab this from you. You are one step closer to being on stage. Let me go grab that from him.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Okay, what was that? I was just going to say, what an inspiration to transpose those feelings onto a mouse, you know? Right. So that we can really be inside of that story. Right. And so you can see yourself inside of a mouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Right. Exactly. It's heartbreaking. Correct. It's really sad. It is. Heartbroken. Yup.
Starting point is 01:32:54 I was devastated. I'm devastated too. Are we doing a Meisner exercise? Are we doing a Meisner exercise? Oh, fuck. We're doing a Meisner exercise. Holy shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Should we roll the clip again? Roll the clip. All right. Here we go. Hey man, everyone gets down sometimes, but probably 75% of us don't kill ourselves. Yeah. Don't do that. That's a really encouraging statistic.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Thank you. Yeah. Just come live with us. We've got a room for you. Can I talk to you for a second? Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Yeah. What's that? What the fuck do you think you're doing? You're asking this hamster to live with us. My house too, bitch. Okay. I pay all the bills. Can I pause it right here?
Starting point is 01:33:43 I can't help but notice while these two characters are having an aside, the third, the Judge Dreadmouse is tying a noose. Powerful stuff. It seems to me these other mice are being like irresponsible. They'd rather bicker with each other than tend to the emotional needs of their friend. And isn't that always the way? And that is what life is like, isn't it? Oftentimes we get caught up in our own blue.
Starting point is 01:34:05 In our own bullshit. Yep, and then you don't see somebody in need. A friend in need. Exactly. This really feels like themes. Thanks, Cal. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Let's go back to the clip. Okay. Um, I can hear you. Just give us one second now, okay? Uh-huh. One second is all I'll need. Oh. Let's pause it there and it's crazy because the Judge Dreadmouse just leaves with the chair from this scene,
Starting point is 01:34:37 leaving the other two mice to continue their conversation again, ignoring his calls for help. It's really messed up. It's really, but think about it. It's a moment for everyone to think, how have I ignored a friend in need in my life? Have you done that, Pastor Boston? Ignored a friend in need? Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:54 No. Yeah. I've had friends say, I really need someone to talk to and I'm like, good luck with that. It actually sounds like you. Yeah. I'm like, listen, I don't remember. I don't believe in God. I just worship pastor.
Starting point is 01:35:08 I mean, come on. What do you expect? And also, you've got your own problems. I mean, you just spent four weeks in an Italian prison. I know. And it was actually quite nice because I am technically unhoused. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:20 So, we gave you four cots and a hot. What? Four cots? Is that you for this or for sex? Yes. That would be way too many cots. Way too few hots. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Four cots and a hot. Maybe a callback to a previous episode. Got it. Missed it. Somebody will pick it up. Somebody will pocket. What if you could sleep in a different bed four nights in a row? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:35:43 That's the dream. But only having one meal across those four nights. I mean, listen, I don't think that's a bad deal. Yeah. Would you choose four hots and one cot or four cots and one hot? I would choose four cots and one hot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Why not? What about two and two? Chuck Woolery style. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Is this a trap? Am I going back?
Starting point is 01:36:09 Are y'all going to send me back to prison? No, no, no, no. We're going to watch the rest of your movie. Oh, my God. Thank God. Okay. Here we go. I can't believe we're so close to the end of the movie.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Man, I can feel those credits coming so quickly. Guys, we're in a movie. I thought this was just our life. You didn't know? No. We're all just fictional creatures in an uncaring world. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:36 No. Our destiny is predetermined. No. Sorry. No. It's almost 2076. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 01:36:57 The end. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Incredible. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I did. I will say, I feel like from the first scene we saw, it really telegraphed the end of the
Starting point is 01:37:11 movie. Yeah. I just knew it was going to end with the countdown. Also, it's weird to show a clip of the movie that shows the very end of the movie. Sure. Sure. I have an interesting choice on my part. I will take accountability.
Starting point is 01:37:24 I'm big on accountability. And I'll take it. Wow. Yeah. That's impressive. I'll take it. I'll take it. Listen, we got...
Starting point is 01:37:33 It was a bidding war for our film. Wow. A bidding war. Wow. Yeah. It was huge. Who ultimately got it? Ted Sarandos just for his...
Starting point is 01:37:41 Netflix. No, just him. Just him. No. Netflix. Was he doing a catch and kill with it? Yeah. He wants to bury it.
Starting point is 01:37:49 He caught it and he killed it. But we did get paid for it. Wow. We got paid a beautiful lump sum of money. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was gorgeous. It was stunning.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Wow. It was like a nodule of money. It was a nodule of money with glitter on it. Yeah. Glitter and... You should get that checked. Yeah. Was there an option for lifetime installments like the lottery?
Starting point is 01:38:10 No. No lifetime installments. Just the lump sum. Just the one and a lot of tax taken out. And are you feeling like you're going to take that money and just, you know, retire with it? Is that your... What sent you to Italy?
Starting point is 01:38:24 Well, see, I've never really worked. So that was the biggest job I've ever done. Are you going to pour this money into another... into your next project? Well, yes. I would love to learn to make a new pasta. Okay. Maybe tortellini. Rigatoni.
Starting point is 01:38:35 But... Do you think you and your landlord will ever make another movie? Wait. What's your landlord doing? I'd love to hear from him. My landlord is in landscaping now. And yeah. He only does...
Starting point is 01:38:47 So he does... Land-based... Land... He's... Jobs. ...lording and scaping as long as it's on land. If it don't have land in the name, I ain't doing it. That's what he told me.
Starting point is 01:38:59 He told me point blank period. Yeah. So I don't know if we'll make another film. We would have to... we would have to get into a tiff, for sure. Wait. You want to get into the festival first? Before you... Or a fight, yes.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yeah. But usually, you know, tiff came to us. Really? Yeah. And they just... As she said... Wait, you mean... I'm sorry, this is...
Starting point is 01:39:23 Somebody named Tiffany... This is a woman named Tiffany. A woman named Tiffany, but we call her tiff. For sure. It's a weird little nickname we have for her. It's not that weird. It's a pretty weird... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:33 A lot of Tiffany's are called tiff. We made it up. No. Usually, Tiffany's are called Annie's. No. At the very least, fans. Fans, I think, is what it might be. Are you guys hearing this bullshit?
Starting point is 01:39:47 All right. Pass to pass to everyone. Can you stay? I guess. Do you... Would you have her not? No, I'm happy to be here, I said. I'm happy to be here.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Happy to be here. Well, we have one... This guest's gonna sit, I just got concerned is what happened. Well, they'll sit on one of the stools. On a stool with no back? Well, hopefully his back isn't blown out like yours. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:40:19 That's true. We have one more guest, and this is someone who also did not contribute to the book. Someone who has not been on the show before either. And I got word that I was supposed to have him on the show. I don't know why. I've never met him. I don't know anything about him. But please welcome to the show Mr. Books.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Hello, Scott. Hi, Mr. Books. So nice to meet you. This is Pastor Pasta. Cal Solomon. Hi. Jason Manzuchus. Hello, Jason.
Starting point is 01:41:02 I'm Scott Ackerman. I know you are, Scott. But you don't know who I am. Well, I know you're Mr. Books. Well, then you know that much, don't you? Yes. He's got you there. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:16 He just owned you. I see you have a copy of the Comedy Bang Bang, the podcast, the book there that you're silently stroking, or you appear to be miming stroking. Is he supposed to be loudly stroking it? Well, that'd be weird. Wow, you just got owned, Scott. You're just getting decimated tonight. Why are you fondling the book, if I may ask?
Starting point is 01:41:43 Well, it's so exciting when a new book is published, isn't it, Scott? It is very exciting that people here all are here in celebration of it. Mr. Books is going to kill you. I don't know that I've ever seen someone where Blues Brothers' sunglass is so ominously. Wow. You want a reveal. You walked right into that. And now you don't know how to turn them off.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Leave it on. How many settings altogether on those? Well, let's find out. That's one. One. Two. Slow blinking. That's a slower blink.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Look the same, okay. Steady. Three. Steady. Steady. Four. Wow. Four.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Four counting off. Yeah. One for four different moods. Yeah. Three cuts and a hut. Scott, I want to congratulate you on the publication of this fine tome. Thank you so much. Mr. Books, everyone.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Thank you for coming. No. No. What? Oh, there's more. Now, Scott, this is your first book. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:25 That explains a lot. I don't know who dropped the ball, whether it was your publisher or whether you don't read your emails. But nobody publishes a book without giving Mr. Books a look. That's all I ask. That's all I ask. Just give me a look. Let me see it.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Let me see the book. You got a book? You want to put it out? Give Mr. Books a look at the book. Are you saying I, if I put a book out, I'm supposed to give you a book? Not just you, everybody. Everybody was ever published a book. Gives Mr. Books a look.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Are you saying gives him a book or a look? A look. Give me a look at the book. Let me look at it. Let me see it. What's it look like? Give Mr. Books a look at the book. And I will tell you yes or no.
Starting point is 01:44:38 I will tell you yes or no. Yes or no. Whether it can be a book. And this is the way it has been since the beginning. Of books? Now you're catching on. I'm just, I mean, I'm curious. I mean, the Gutenberg Bible?
Starting point is 01:45:05 That's a book. But did Mr. Books get a look? Yeah, they gave Mr. Books a look. And that was all it took. Okay. Scott, your publisher didn't say anything to you about me. I, to be honest, I get a lot of emails. Abrams is the publisher.
Starting point is 01:45:31 There's some people here. You can blame them. They're back in the corner over there. No, no, no, no, no. If they stuck around. Edited by Scott Elkerman. That's you, Scott. You're right here on the front.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Is this you in the green shirt? Yeah, me from about seven years ago. And you will notice it says edited, not written by. I wanted to be accurate. Yeah, a lot of shared labor in this one. Wait. What did you give a shit, Mr. Books? Well, normally I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Scott, normally I wouldn't. But normally I get a look before. All right. Well, fine. Mr. Books, if you want to take a look, be my guest. I'm looking. It's too late now. Now, Mr. Books, do you read?
Starting point is 01:46:19 No. I don't have time. I don't have time. So many books come out. I'm sure you have to leave it out. So many. You have any idea how many books? If I had to read them all?
Starting point is 01:46:31 So those are not corrective lenses? No. Mr. Books, I have a question. All right. Did you think that Cal wanted a high five and you were going to... I mean, I'll always take... I thought that's what we just did. I'll always take one.
Starting point is 01:46:46 But my question is, when you get a look at a book, but then that book later comes out on paperback, do you have to look at that one, too? Every edition. Not every printing. Do you understand? Do you understand? Break it down, Mr. Book.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Break it down. Come to the center of the stage, Mr. Books. Center stage. Find your life. Come on. Find your life, Mr. Books. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:13 So the front of the book, you'll see some numbers at the back of the book. One, two, three, four, five. It's the opposite of the end of your movie. You're right. You're right. Now, that means this is the first printing. When it goes to the second printing,
Starting point is 01:47:32 everything about the book will be the same, but the number one will drop off. You'll see two, three, four, five, six. I don't need to repeat this. We all understand the pattern, right? The book is the same, different printing. Now, if you go, you're going to add stuff to this, do a new edition for Paperback?
Starting point is 01:47:49 I don't know. I don't know if anyone gives a shit yet. Scott, do you plan ahead for anything? This is the kind of shit that Mr. Books could help with. I could have had this book in every grocery store in North America. I don't know that I want it there. That's your core audience.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Everyone who shops for groceries, when they're in the checkout, the cashier says to them, would you like a copy of the book? It seems like that would slow everything down so much. Not your book sales. Good point. Since when?
Starting point is 01:48:28 Go through your archive, see if any episode of your podcast you've ever expressed any concern about the speed with which groceries are sold. You won't find an example of it. You should care about that. Now all of a sudden this is top concern. We got to sell the groceries faster.
Starting point is 01:48:51 You're here to sell your book, Scott. I'm sorry, Mr. Book, you're right. I want to sell the book. Maybe I'll do a second preview. Did your publisher even try and hook you up with Mr. Books and did you say no? This is the first time hearing of Mr. Books other than right before the show,
Starting point is 01:49:08 No. You know, Scott, I like you. I think you're a fun man. That makes one person on stage. I think you got a little clever with this. And I think the problem is... Are you a reviewer? I have never read a book, Scott.
Starting point is 01:49:32 I'm telling you what I see here. And this is a book, the title is comedy bang, bang. What do you think about that title? Two sentences. That's rare, you don't get... Most titles aren't even one sentence. It's rare you get two titles. You punctuate one space.
Starting point is 01:49:59 That's youthful. Then the word bang again. Then you say the podcast, then you say the book. It's confusing, Scott. I think that's where the mix-up happened. It's funny. I get it. You do?
Starting point is 01:50:19 Yes. You're having fun with what you call it. It's a podcast. Now you've made a book. Why not have some fun with the title? Should we get off stage? I understand it, but somewhere, I think this really, it's really fucked you, Scott.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Because we, I could have done a lot for this. Did you, were you offered a dust jacket as an option for the book? No. This was not a conversation that was had. I don't recall. It's a hardcover book. It is hard.
Starting point is 01:50:54 But no dust jacket. It's fairly hard. I mean, no dust jacket. It's not melting in my hands. It's hard. It's a hardcover book. Anything that's not hard melts in your hands. I think if something melts in your hands,
Starting point is 01:51:10 it is no longer hard. Do you disagree? You could be holding my penis right now and it wouldn't melt in your hands. Wait a minute, what do you mean? Okay, yeah, I'm like, wait, hold on. Hold on. Let's dig in on that for a second.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I'm just saying. Yes, if I was holding your penis, it would not melt in my hand. What, is your dick like an M&M? What is this? It only melts in your mouth, not in your hands? Scott, I don't think you and I would... Sir, I thought this was the kind of person
Starting point is 01:51:35 that you were supposed to protect us from. Here, how did this guy get on stage? All right. Scott, you're really... He's escorted him. You're really antagonistic to Mr. Books. Great! Now he's trapped on here with us.
Starting point is 01:52:04 That guy just saved himself. Meanwhile, unfettered access from this side. I'm sorry, Mr. Books, what can I do to... Scott, you're a first-time author with a confusing title book. Just promise me, because here's the thing, if this had a dust jacket, wouldn't get so dusty.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Yeah. I noticed that backstage. The books were dusty as fuck. Dusty book. The books were dusty as fuck, and I thought that was weird. You're putting this out in the world, everybody. Here, going home with a dusty book.
Starting point is 01:52:46 No jacket. Mr. Books, what was that note you just slipped into the book? I remember when Scott was thinking about it, he said that the book was no jacket required. Weirdly enough, that popped in my head, too, and I opted not to say it. I said it, it got nothing, and I'm thrilled.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Interesting note folded into this book. Please see Mr. Books. Did you think your name was Dr. Books? What notes? Dr. Books. Are you a doctor? Are you a doctor? Are you a doctor?
Starting point is 01:53:18 Are you a doctor? If you're a doctor, you have to tell us. If you're a doctor, you have to say. Find your light. My name is Mr. Books, and I'm a medical doctor. Whoa. Huge reveal. Wow.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Huge reveal. A lot of huge reveals here on stage. A lot of huge reveals. Yeah. So you are here to say you are now Dr. Books. I've always been Dr. Books. Wow. But you say Mr. because it's more of the people?
Starting point is 01:53:52 Yes. I know I already come out pretty intimidating. Are you kidding? You're like some sort of book-based Rick Rubin character. Cosplaying as John Gabriel. Yes. Scott, promise me we will have a conversation before any new addition.
Starting point is 01:54:21 You're going to add a little something for the soft cover? Soft cover. I don't know that we're getting a soft. I hopefully, I mean, I hope that it does well. I hope people like it. Well, here's the thing. If it was a trade cloth with a dust jacket, you get a soft cover. When you go with a fairly hard cover,
Starting point is 01:54:37 the publisher's going to say, well, it's already soft enough, isn't it? If you're lucky and you go hard too long, eventually you get soft. That is medically accurate. And that's from a doctor. Are you a urologist? Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:58 That's why I know when you were talking before, it made no sense. I don't think you had to be a urologist to know it didn't make no sense. No, you don't. Yeah. You don't. You don't. Anybody know that?
Starting point is 01:55:10 Anybody know that just because you put a penis in your hand? Just because you put a penis in your hand doesn't mean it's going to melt. Everybody knows that. Kel and Kel, that could be a wrap. That could be a wrap. What was it? Just because you put a penis in your hand?
Starting point is 01:55:31 Everybody knows just because you put a penis in your hand doesn't mean it's going to melt. Listen up, dumbass. I'm going to tell you a fucking story about your dick. Just because you put a dick in your hands doesn't mean that it's going to melt. When you're touching, you've got to say, hey, get off my dick. I'm afraid it's going to melt.
Starting point is 01:55:55 I am a guy who has a penis, and I have a lot of fear. I'm afraid of this. I'm afraid of that. I'm afraid of a big old baseball bat. If you hit me in the face with a bat, my face will be crushed, and that is that. So don't hit me with the bat. I would like to keep my face, my skull bones, my eye sockets,
Starting point is 01:56:16 my cheekbones, and all the rest. Everybody's got to go to my house for a nice dinner party where I serve the wettest spaghetti that you've ever heard of. Love that. That's right. And the chicken, that is more wooden than Pinocchio. You heard me.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Everybody knows that peas are mushy, because my mom is from Great Britain. Everybody likes to go to my house for dinner, except the sugar hill gang. That's our show, everyone. I love you, Brooklyn. We love you, Brooklyn. Enjoy the book.

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