Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - No Coconuts Here! (Atsuko Okatsuka, James Austin Johnson, Charlie McCrackin)

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

This week, stand-up Atsuko Okatsuka joins Scott to discuss becoming the new permanent co-host of Comedy Bang! Bang!, the dangers of getting hit on the head with a coconut, and her latest stand-up spec...ial “Father”. Then, ex-writer and editor for “Rolling Stone” magazine, David Fricke, joins to discuss his five favorite songs. Finally, former spokesperson for "Maynards", Ray Szmanda, drops in to update us on all the big savings we can't miss! Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Lose lips sink ships, these lips eat chips. Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. Ah yes, thank you to East Coast Ugo for that catchphrase submission, and my sympathies to East Coast Ugo for what you must be going through. But thank you very much for that catchphrase submission. We're not going to use it permanently. Sorry to add and to pile on East Coast, Hugo. But welcome to Comedy Bang Bang for another week.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We have a great episode. My name is Scott Aukerman. Coming up on the show, we have a writer. We also have an entrepreneur of sorts or a spokesperson, perhaps. Perhaps even a combination of both of those things. And we also are going to come up here with our first guest. She is a standup comedian. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:01:14 You know, in the pantheon of great podcast guests, of course we go movie star is number one, TV star, number two. Do you have a TV show by any chance? No. I mean, your you have a TV show? By any chance? No. I mean, your stand-up special is on TV, so it's adjacent. I had, yeah, I've had two specials. Those are TV shows?
Starting point is 00:01:33 Would you call yourself a TV star, though? Are those TV shows? They're TV shows, but I don't know that you're a TV star yet. No, keep going, you were gonna go down the ranks. Stand-up comedy last. That's what you were, oh, I thought that's where you were going.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Podcast or is last, my dear, of course, hey, don't say that about my friend. Don't say that about you. No, me and your wife had a I was your wife was going to direct a show of my remember Quibi. Yeah, I do. Of course I remember Quibi with those. Yeah, that was one time. My old boss, Jeffrey Katzenberg was in charge of that company. Oh, you know, yes. Yes. That was his brainchild. Those were the days. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:07 The Quibi days. Yeah. She was going to direct that. And then did Quibi fall apart or what exactly happened? Are you... What happened to the show? Are you for real? Oh, I mean, I know Quibi doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I thought you were asking me what happened to Quibi. I was like, sweetie, there's also been a pandemic and let's not tell him who's president again, shall we? Scott, come back. I was just hitting the head by a also been a pandemic and let's not tell him who's president again, shall we? Oh dear. Scott, come back. I was just hit in the head by a coconut that was falling off of a tree. I actually had a friend who that did happen to, so. And did you say they died?
Starting point is 00:02:34 No, no, no, alive, alive. Yeah, it happened, but he alive. It would be a harrowing experience, I think, to be hit in the head with a coconut. You see it on sitcoms all the time and it gives people amnesia, but to actually be hit in the head with a coconut, it would be very painful and I would think that they would get a concussion and perhaps permanent brain damage.
Starting point is 00:02:51 He says that it's why he doesn't have opinions about things, but I was like, I think that's something else. I think that's just your personality. You know what I mean? Did he retrofit it to like, oh, everyone complains that I don't have opinions. Oh, I was hitting the head by a coconut. Yes, his his wife at the time was like, think about think about why you have no opinions about anything ever. It's so boring to talk to you. And then they didn't talk to each
Starting point is 00:03:14 other for two months while he thought about it, quote unquote. And then he came back and said, I thought about it. And actually, I forgot to tell you, when I was a kid, I climbed a coconut tree, and something, oh actually he fell off the tree. It's a little different. Oh, so it was the reverse. So he fell out of the coconut tree onto the ground and hit his head. He was the coconut.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Oh, okay. In a weird way. Yeah, in a weird way we're all coconuts, aren't we? That's true. Is that, gosh, he's just so good at, he's just, you're just so good with this. Thank you so much. Let me introduce you though, because people don't know your name yet. A mystery.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We were going down. So it's TV Star, Movie Star. No, Movie Star is number one. Don't confuse yourself. Movie Star is absolutely number one. This is with what? With desirable and enjoyable podcast guests. See, so you are ranking.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So stand up is lower. Stand up is lower than movie star and TV star certainly. Yeah and this is like okay so if there was a fire would you save a movie star over stand up? Absolutely. Because they you grew up on them or something? Well perhaps a stand up could become a movie star a la Richard Pryor or uh Sure. Do we think Chris Rock is a movie star? You know, stand-ups, we're multi-hyphenates. We are our own directors, we are writers, we are performers, we're all of it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 What are your other hyphenates? So like, did you direct your special? I guess my husband did, but... That's stolen valor. Hey, but I wrote the whole thing. I perform it, I direct on where I look my eyes, you know When I'm doing the physical and directs where they look with their eyes during their job. I knew it I caught him Scott is you are a stand-up hater
Starting point is 00:04:54 Hello stand-up hater. I have to say that I think it's movie star television star. I Think I'll go stand-up comedian and then author and then podcaster I think I'll go standup comedian and then author and then podcaster. Yeah, okay. So you're right there in the middle. So welcome to the show. Thank you so much. Sure. Her standup special Father is out now on Hulu.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Part of the what is it? Hularious, Hularity. What is it? Hey, that's how I felt about Quibi. Hilarious. So even because hilarious was taken. Did they ever think about calling what you were doing with them Quiberious? Who? Quibi?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. Or Hulu. I'll take either answer. They're like, yeah, we're Hulu. Why don't we bring back Quibi? People would love that. Quiberious. Honestly, I think Quibi and Siso see so they're they're lying fallow They're barren brands. Someone should just pick them up and just start doing something with them Like why don't you and I do Quibi together? We could we could pick it back up. Hey, that was your boss That's your boy. I do not work at Quibi. I want to make that very clear. I worked at DreamWorks Can I tell you something? I knew something. I knew the name was off
Starting point is 00:06:09 This says a lot about Quibi. Okay when I was pitching the show to the producers That that they ended up buying when I was in the room Apparently so we came out of the room right and the producers that I was with you know that we were pitching it together They were like Atsuko you were you kept calling it Quibbly So apparently I was in there going quibble okay, so here at Quibbly, right? What you don't have is, I guess I kept saying that and none of them blink. None of them even like, honestly, it's just as stupid as Quibi. So maybe they were sitting there going like, maybe it should be Quibbly. Yeah, exactly. I think that's true. Maybe I was blowing their minds. Also, it seems like they bought a show before they could ever even make it.
Starting point is 00:06:48 My show? Yeah. Did they ever make it or no? We made the pilot, yeah. Right, yeah. But then the pandemic hit. Yeah. It was like a, yeah. You know, I guess that was the story with a lot of things. Sure. But then something happened, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That's how stories usually go, is like, here's something, then something happened. Oh, yeah. And then something else happens and usually kind of goes along a pace. Sometimes it's like a universal then something happened. You know what I mean? As a pandemic is a universal one. Asko Oka is here. Oh my gosh. We haven't introduced me yet. I was gonna I was gonna keep them guessing. Hey, it's me, Asko. And I'm here with with Scott. Welcome to the show, first time appearance.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You're in our exclusive one-timers club. That's right. And that's a very exclusive club with Donald Glover, Ben Stiller, Paul Rudd. These are movie stars and you're rubbing elbows with them. They've only done the show one time. Yeah. Congratulations, you're here with them.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Hey, and you'll never see me again either. That would be great because that means your career is going great. Well, I just wanna be in that, you know. Yeah, and you'll never see me again either. That would be great because that means your career is going great. Well, I just want to be in that, you know. Yeah, exactly. That's a good club. I can be a second timer. Second timer is not as, right?
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's like... No, what you don't want to be is an Adam Scott who's been on like 50 times. Because then it's just like... Sure, sure. Then it's like, oh, who is he? The host? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you don't want, who is he, the host? Ha ha. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, you don't want to co-host this. Do you want to co-host this with me? I feel like we're moving very fast. On a permanent basis, yeah. Scott, I just got here. You just said I was middle of priority. I don't know. I just like your style.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You may not be a movie star yet, but I really think that you have something. You have it, that ever elusive it. So I'm being offered a job already? It's not a job in terms of like a paid position. It's just, you would show up every week. Maybe I would see a lot of the responsibilities to you and maybe I would be in more of a supervisory capacity. Oh, that's not cohost.
Starting point is 00:08:38 That's a little different. We can call it whatever we call it, but you're a cohost who does most of the heavy lifting. What do you think? Okay, I mean, yeah, well, I'll think about it because I've seen sometimes the episodes whatever we call it, but you're a co-host who does most of the heavy lifting. What do you think? Okay. I mean, yeah, well, I'll think about it because, you know, I've seen sometimes the episodes are over two hours long. So I mean, if it's really varies, right?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Look, my commitment is really varying as well. The over two hour episodes are meant to be outliers. But but welcome to the show for the first time. You have a wonderful standup special. Would it surprise you to learn I've seen this? I guess not, no, because I now have a team that sends my stuff out or something like that. Plus, would it surprise you if I were to do anything?
Starting point is 00:09:21 We don't really know each other. So if I were to say anything about myself, would you go like, oh, that's surprising? Or would you just go like, okay, I mean, I don't know you. Sure. No, no. Wow. Such a bleak way of looking at it. No, I would- Would anything surprise you if I told you that? I would be interested. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah, I would be interested. It's an interesting fact about me that I've seen your special. Yeah, that's awesome. Thank you for watching. Of course. Yeah, it's a wonderful special. It's out on Hulu now part of the Hularity Festival I guess That they're having it's their slate, you know, it's their first year doing stand-up specials Originals and so yeah every month it's a new special Are they doing non original stand-up specials or those like cover things where people do you know like Chris Rock material or something? Yeah like what would they call that? Well
Starting point is 00:10:09 that's the thing everyone gets to cover songs when you're a musician you know what I mean? Yeah. And then stand-ups can't just go do other people's jokes? That would be stealing I guess. It's not stealing if you say it's a cover. Yeah I think that's why we you know what we used to have there used to be shows where you could do that. I forget what it's called on Halloween, right? Oh, I you're you're looking me like I know anything about where stand-ups would go and do jokes as another comedian I do know about Halloween if that's what you're asking about is people dress up people dress up every year I guess people dress up every day, but that's true. That's true We're always in costume if you think about it if you really think about it
Starting point is 00:10:44 We should be nude every day. And every day is like Halloween because we're like, oh, maybe if I put this bit of cloth on me, that'll be more acceptable to society. Yeah. Then maybe I'm a good person. No longer that bad person I am when I'm nude. Do you think you're bad when you're nude? Anytime you take off your clothes, I get a sense of shame, be it because of my
Starting point is 00:11:05 upbringing or whatever, but I, I get a sense of like, this is not how I'm supposed to be when you're nude. Tell me about your upbringing. I had a fairly religious upbringing and, uh, uh, there was a bit of shame about, uh, uh, anything involving the body below the waist. I'm talking even feet stuff. Sure. I mean, Jesus showed a lot of feet.
Starting point is 00:11:26 He had that whole feet thing with Mary. He died feet out. He died feet first. Oh yeah, he put nails in those. And they said, which is like, it's like pointing at it. Hey, look here. No, let's not even talk about the spear to the side. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, so I mean, and he was pretty barely closed. So I don't know. Talk to your parents about that. He had like, from what I've seen in the pictures, he had like a little like white cloth over him. Barely. Would it have killed him to make it like polka dots or something like that? Like put it, make the crucifixion a little fun. Polka dots? Yeah, you know, like, hey, you know how they sometimes they put, they put prisoners. Crucifixion but like hey, you know how they sometimes they put they put prison crucifixion, but Megala You know how they sometimes put prisoners in pink jumpsuits in order to emasculate them. You're talking about Paddington
Starting point is 00:12:13 You're talking Paddington to I'm not talking about When he mixed up the laundry you describe. Oh my god. You've seen that too. Of course I have excuse me My favorite movie ever are we sisters? Yes, I will co-host. Okay, fantastic. So you're the new permanent co-host, maybe even lead host of Comedy Bang Bang. First off, do your listeners know that you do this podcast while staring at a photo of your daughter the whole time? It's very sweet. I do. And the entire 16 years I've done that. It's so wild. A time traveler dropped off this picture 16 years ago and I somehow made it happen and it came true and there it is.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But let's talk. She's always been too. Speaking of being a father, let's talk about your standup special father. I've watched this, I believe I've told you this in the past and tell me about why call it father. Look, when standups come in here, there's a reason they're third on the list. There's not a lot to talk about. You know, like your jokes are funny and all we can really talk about is the title of it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So why did you call it what you call it father? I mean, and besides the fact that you've seen the whole thing, you're like, let's just talk title though, title first. And your father, I am a father. Yes. And I'm a father to many. So I was naturally inclined to watch this. Sure. You said this is about me. She wrote a special about me. Yeah, no, totally. And uh, well, you know, my fans call me mother, right? Uh, but mothers have it together, so I'm more a father in that I'm thriving in life, but clueless about everyday basics,
Starting point is 00:13:50 like how to do the laundry or filing paperwork. You have a thing in the special about how you went to the washing machine and then had to ask your husband how to turn it on that I really related to because this happened to me very recently where I was like, I didn't wanna betray the fact that I had never done
Starting point is 00:14:10 the laundry once and didn't know how to use it. And so it's, and that happened to you, which is why you're saying you're more like a father. Right, right. You basically lounge around and do what you want and don't have any responsibilities. Well, I mean, I... Other than career-wise.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I write the jokes, you know, I write the jokes. You point your eyes places. I perform the jokes, I tour, you know. But I did ask him, I said, Ryan, how do you turn this on? And that's when he realized, he was like, have you not been doing the laundry this whole time? And honestly, I was shocked too. I also was like, oh my God, oh my God, it has been you this whole time for seven years. Yeah, that's, I just thought
Starting point is 00:14:50 the laundry was getting magically done. And he thought, you know, every time a load was done like, Oh, you know, you just forget, I guess, I don't know why he didn't know. He, I guess every time he went to like his sock and underwear drawer, he was like, Oh well, that's go did some laundry. Right. But it was him. But it was him the entire time. Yeah. This is like a sick, twisted Alfred Hitchcock movie or something from the mind of M. Night Shyamalan. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Fellow Asian, happy AAPA Heritage Month. Actually, when this is out, it's not May. Yeah. It'll be June by then, but we can still watch Trap and celebrate. For sure. And thank you for having me in my month. That's right, by the way, I think I- Side note, side note.
Starting point is 00:15:27 If the booking holds up, we have female guests in our A block the entire month of June. So I'm calling you all my June brides. Oh, good, yeah. Bye pride parade, bride pride month. Bride month. Bride month, bye bride month. I. Bride Month. Bride Month, by Bride Month. I mean, Hi Bride Month, by Bride Month.
Starting point is 00:15:49 By Bride Month, Hi Bride Month. I need, this is a T-shirt. See, this is why you're the co-host here. See, come on. We're thinking of T-shirt ideas already, I love this. That's right, first time and last time. First time or last timer. We, by the way, you do have to do,
Starting point is 00:16:03 it's a lot like paying rent, where you pay first month, last month. You have to do it's it's a lot like paying rent where you pay first month Last month you have to do your first appearance last appearance So we're gonna do your last appearance right after this one if that's okay. Oh, no problem Yes, unless you call it right now, and this is your last appearance Wow that that was trippy I'm gonna have to think about that one think about it for a bit. Yeah, don't take two months like your friend with a coconut I Know oh, there's I need you to talk for the rest of the show. By the way, they're divorced now. Yeah. I think if anyone didn't talk to me for two
Starting point is 00:16:31 months, I would think divorce is in the cards. She told him you have two months to think about this. That's what happened. So she did make the boundaries. I mean, he could have thought about it while still engaging her in conversation about other things, right? Oh sweetie, he has no thoughts about things. That's true, yeah. He was the coconut. Speaking of father, you mentioned this in your special, and I find this story about you very fascinating. We don't have to go into the depressing, this American life version of it, but you were born in Japan? I was born in Taiwan. You were born in Taiwan, but lived in Japan?
Starting point is 00:17:12 Mm-hmm. And now you live here, and I know people relocate all the time, but there's an interesting story about why you are here. Right, right. My grandma brought me here on a two month vacation. Yeah. Yeah. Took me away from my dad who I was living with. Yeah. And he had custody. Right, in Japan. Right. And that, I mean, we could bring up the this American life aspect because it was Ira Glass that helped me figure it
Starting point is 00:17:37 out. Yes. He heard your act and he reached out to you and said like, hey, have you ever digged deeper into this, right? Yeah. And I said, yeah. And I joke that it's never good when Ira Glass reaches out to you. You never want to do this American life because that means your life was bad. That means something that just like you never want to be an inspiration. You never want to make the news. You know what I mean? That's not good. That's not. Oh, look, I'm an inspiration. No, sweetie. That's how we know who Malala is.
Starting point is 00:18:04 OK. No. So, yeah. So I was like, oh, look, I'm an inspiration. No, sweetie. That's how we know who Malala is. Okay. No. So yeah. So I was like, okay, sure. And then he was like, let's figure it out. It would be technically a kidnapping if your dad had custody of you. And I didn't know if he did. Right. And so, and when you, when you investigated this, you found he did have custody of you and your grandmother essentially brought you to America on vacation and then never took you back. Right, right. Yeah. And Iris said, I looked up the rules with California. You could still technically press charges. Oh, okay. Well, that's wonderful. Have you ever held that over your grandmother's head?
Starting point is 00:18:40 My 91 year old grandma? Yeah. No, she's my best friend. You know, oftentimes your best friend is your villain in your life. Right. You know? Yeah. So, well, you've undergone major experiences with them for good or for bad. And so that brings people closer regardless. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah. And so, you know, so that's, yeah, that's how I got here. That's why that's how I got to be your co-host. That's why that's how I got to be your co host. That's amazing. What an incredible story from Taiwan to Tokyo to California to right here. Right here. And where are we? I don't want to give away my assassination coordinates necessarily, but but it's it's an incredible story. And it's you can hear that episode of, I mean, don't stop this podcast to go listen to it,
Starting point is 00:19:28 but like if you ever have a free half hour or whatever, I don't know, I would just go back to the Comedy Bang Bang archives over on CBB World. You know what, nevermind. You can listen to it after this. You got the gist, right? I don't want people switching over to another show. No, no, after this, after this.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I know, but they could just listen to older episodes of this show. That's true. You're right. Yeah. As my co-host, I need you to be pimping this show. You heard the whole story here on this, not this American, where are we? This American Bang Bang. We are all American.
Starting point is 00:20:00 What? What were we talking about? I don't really know know but I do know that First bang bang first. Yes Your special father is out there right now. It's very very funny If you've never seen that's goes stand-up comedy. You're one of the best out there and Who are the other people in this Hularity? Slate who are you sharing the airwaves with?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, the first year is like Bill Burr, Sebastian Maniscalco, Jim Gaffigan, Ilana Glazer, Frankie Kanonis. Wow, who am I? Work for Hularious or something? Actually, I do know. You work here now. I do work here now. Yeah, and I don't like you moonlighting over there for Hulu. I was trying to show off my memory. See, no coconuts here, no coconuts near my head. I remember everything. And so those are some of the people.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And then you can watch it internationally on Disney Plus too. That's right, yeah, if you've ever been in another country and you're like, wow, let me check out Hulu. Nope, not gonna happen. It's all Disney Plus over there. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, as an international comedian, as an international girl myself. Yeah. So you're rubbing shoulders with the likes of Mickey and Minnie Mouse themselves.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Oh my gosh. I went to Disneyland recently. I did the whole VIP tour because I'm part of the Disney family. That's amazing. Did you get to see the gravestones in back of the Haunted Mansion? Oh no, I didn't do that. Actually, the Haunted Mansion was like closed that day. What? It had broken down. A lot of breakdowns that day, to be honest. Really? Oh my gosh, we did the what is formerly Splash Mountain. Now it's Tiana's Bayou. Oh, that log ride. You know, you fall in the end, not fall, but you do the drop in the end. Splash, splash. Typical flume ride. Oh, so fun. You're screaming, ah, and then boom, we get stuck. No, on the way down or? So we already came down and then it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:46 you're on this high and then suddenly- And you're wet. You're wet, you're drenched. Yeah. And then boom, we got stuck. And then you're just sitting there, how long were you sitting there? For like, I think like almost an hour.
Starting point is 00:21:56 An hour just sitting there in the hot sun in a flume? So we were outdoors and then suddenly a crowd forms and I just hear, there she is, it's Otsuko.zko hey it's her and so they start videotaping me and people are taking photos and the logs behind us get rescued first so they're walking past us some of them are like oh my god Otzko oh hi I love your comedy and some of them like we're like do you mind and I was like I guess not I'm stuck you're forced to take selfies so they did selfies with me drenched in the log stuck with my six gay best friends. I guess you've never done uh selfies when you're all wet before so that's unique right? Yeah I mean I was like
Starting point is 00:22:37 is this what I guess that's how Santa feels. Yeah I guess yeah. At the mall that's why there's a wall behind him. I guess he's not wet It would be the one major difference sometimes when a baby peas. That's a good point See what you're here to say is Disneyland is a dilapidated rundown piece of shit. Now, is that what you're saying? I'm just saying that Sometimes things break down That's a good time to ask for a selfie with your favorite celebrity I do want to say this I've been on this ride many times, not when it's Tiana's Bayou, is that what it's now?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yes. I've only been on Splash Mountain because that's the politics that I align with. We know where you stand. Yeah, bride month, we know where you stand. I did play Brer Fox when I worked at Disneyland when I was 17 years old. So that, if that gives you any glimpse into my life, but, um, I've ridden that ride many times. You can just like stand up and get off of it.
Starting point is 00:23:34 We tried. I got up and they're like, no, we're watching you sit back down. What do you mean? So what? So what? Just get up and then leave. I wouldn't, I wouldn't stay there for an hour. Now I was trapped on the Jurassic Park ride
Starting point is 00:23:47 in Universal Studios, but I was on my way up the big, the log flume thing, so I couldn't get off. But if I was just sitting there in the moats at the end, I would just stand up and walk away. Look, we tried, but you know, safety first. So you're a rule follower. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. When you're the bride, you're the bride, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:11 The June bride? Yeah, when you're the June bride, you follow rules. Well, it's a great standup special, and how many do you have now? Do you have three out or? Two, the first one was with HBO, yeah. And what happened with HBO? I could have done it with them,
Starting point is 00:24:26 but I wanted it to come out sooner. So with HBO would have been 2026. Yeah. This doesn't make any sense. And it's like, I don't know, I might be dead. Yeah. Exactly. You don't want it to be a posthumous special.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Sweetie, what? You don't want it to be a posthumous special. Oh yeah. Oh, that's how you say that word? Yeah, yeah. I've been saying it different. Post, post hum... Yeah, post humor you say that word? Yeah. Yeah. I've been saying it different. Post, post-humor? Yeah, post-humorous. Post-humorous? Post-hilarious. I thought it was that. We don't want to be in a post-hilarious age
Starting point is 00:24:53 when Hulu doesn't have their slate of comedians. Yeah, I thought it was post-hilarious. Well, it's a great special. Father is out right now. We need to take a break. When we come back, we have a writer here. Yay! We also have a spokesperson. Ooh. This is very exciting. This is a great show. I'm so glad you're here to take up the slack
Starting point is 00:25:10 and take over the reins of the show here. I love writers and spokespeople. Come on! One of my June brides is here. Asko Okatsuka is here. Father is the special. Hulu out right now. We're gonna take a break.
Starting point is 00:25:23 When we come back, we'll have more Comedy Bang Bang right after this. Comedy Bang Bang, we are back. We have Atsuko Okatsuka here and Father is the Special. Did we, anything else that we need to say about the special here? What's your favorite joke in it? My favorite joke? Oh gosh. Well, I defend the live, laugh, love signs in it.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And I just talk about how it's so easy to do that. Everyone's like, oh, you're so basic. But it's like, if you've lived life, life is hard. As adults, we don't have anyone being like, that was good. That was really good for even just- For just existing, yeah. For getting through it. We have to be our own cheerleaders.
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's why we buy necklaces with our own names on it. Right? Why do we do that? So that we could be like, what's that spell? Jennifer, that's me. That's me, I matter, you know? You also have a great chunk about, were you actually a cheerleader?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Or just- I was, yeah. Yeah, the concept of cheerleading is very funny. Oh, right. That's true. Because it's a sport based on another sport. It's the only sport where you're supporting another sport that people are actually there to see. We are overlooked as cheerleaders, right? And like our only job is to really just scream manifestations and wishes.
Starting point is 00:26:43 We have no say in the game. We're not playing it. Yeah, you have no effect on it. No, but we're just like, you go get the ball. Hope you get the ball. Please get the ball. You know what I mean? Now, which sport is that, hoping to get the ball?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Because are there other sports where you hope you don't get the ball? Like a keep away kind of sport? I mean, that's how I've played sports. Would basketball be better if you didn't want the ball, that's how I've played sports. Would basketball be better if you didn't want the ball? It's called dodgeball, sweetie. Yes, dodgeball. Thank you. Basketball, but where you don't want the ball is dodgeball. Yeah, that's right. And no one ever wants to put it through a hoop or anything. That's right. Yeah. Well, wonderful. Father is out right now. Let's get to our next guest. I wonder if he's a father.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Let's ask. Yeah, let's ask him. He's a writer for, I believe, Rolling Stone, is that correct? He's a writer for Rolling Stone. The magazine. The magazine. Not the band, the Rolling Stones. No, no relation to the Rolling Stones. You don't write their songs.
Starting point is 00:27:41 No, I don't write any of their songs. Although if you had written, I can't get no satisfaction, like can you imagine the royalty checks that would be piling up? Let's just say I'd be a wealthy man. Right. Please welcome David Frick. Hey everybody.
Starting point is 00:27:54 That is a great way of putting it by the way, when you say let's just say you'd be a wealthy man. Let's just say. There's not a lot of nuance. No, there's not. Usually when people say let's just say it's leaving something to the imagination, but you just said let's just say, and then you said exactly what would have happened.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Well, you know, for years, I was an editor for Rolling Stone, which is a magazine that some people like to read, I guess, about rock music. Rock and roll, some people would call it. Whatever you want to call it, rock, heavy rock. Asko, have you ever read Rolling Stone? I have, yeah. My friend was written up recently in it, Mike Birbiglia, but you said you don't write there anymore. So that wasn't you. You know, I still contribute from time to time, but my time at Rolling Stone has sort of that chapter of my life is closed, but I still feel a connection to the, to the editorial voice, which, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:49 let's just say I helped create it, you know, for whatever the current iteration is. Right. You know, so much of my, my voice, I think has made it, you know, I would hope that it's made an impact. You say that chapter of your life is closed. I would say that's a big chapter. Like it's most of your life. Have you ever read a that's a big chapter. Like it's most of your life. Have you ever read a book where like there's a really tiny chapter about like, oh, I grew up here and I went to school here.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And then a giant, giant chapter about what you did for a living. And then like a little tiny chapter at the end where it was like, and then I died. You know, there are some books of Richard Brodigan's poetry that that follow structures similar to that. Mm-hmm Trout fishing in America comes to mind. I Have to confess let's just say I haven't read it the giving tree comes to mind
Starting point is 00:29:36 Oh, yeah giving tree shell Silverstein. Yeah singer songwriter in his own right who collaborated with Johnny Cash on writer in his own right who collaborated with Johnny Cash on a seminal novelty song. A Boy Named Sue? Did they write that together? It's called A Boy Named Sue. A Boy Named Sue, yeah. Yeah. Which is a very funny song when you listen to it because the popular version of it I believe was recorded at a prison or something.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's recorded at a prison. Okay. I'm Johnny Cash. I want to sing music for real people. Right. I'm a country musician. I want to make music that reaches the people that correspond to the characters in my songs. Where do I go? I can either go into a recording booth. I can record for some dope, you know, behind some bulletproof glass. Is it usually bulletproof glass in a recording studio?
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Starting point is 00:30:40 I mean, Phil Spector comes to mind. Yeah, gang rivalries. Painting one genre of music with a particular brush. West Coast rap. I didn't even say. Which one are you thinking of? You're the one that likes Song of the South. Polka?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Sorry, back, yes. Back to you, David. Okay. I feel like I'm an anchor right now. Back to you, David. But you make a good point. Yes. Where do you want to record?
Starting point is 00:31:02 You do sound like an anchor when you do that. Thank you so much. There's something really funny there. There's, oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah good point, yes. Where do you wanna record? That's good. You do sound like an anchor when you do that. Thank you so much. There's something really funny there. There's, oh, thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's nice. It's nice to get a compliment from someone you respect. I'm a big fan of your writing, David.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Oh, thank you. Which is why I wanted to have you on the show. Well, thanks. You wrote profiles of musicians. Features mostly, profiles. I went on the road with every, you know, the black crows from the cow and crows to- To the black crows. The black cr with every, you know, the black crows from, from the counting crows to the black crows to, you know, I, I wrote something recently for, I think maybe it was
Starting point is 00:31:34 defector or something like that. The guardian about Lizzo. Cool. She's a fabulous musician. Yeah. Okay. I'm Lizzo. It's 2025.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I want to record some music that reflects who I've grown to as an artist. Okay. You know, I get out of legal pad or something like that, right? Sure. I get a maybe, maybe a notes app. Maybe it's on a notes app on an iPad or something like that. Yeah. And what do I write? Maybe it's like, you know that scratch paper that real estate like Century 21 would like drop off at your house sometimes and keep by the phone so that you could write down messages. It could be that.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It could be the Century 21 paper. Hey dad, hey dad, you know, I'm trying to think of a name other than Lizzo. It's okay. Hey, Kate called. Kate, yeah, we love Kate. When you hear a name like that, it gets stuck in your head. I was gonna say Liz, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:30 this is too close to Lizzo. I suppose that, you know, your job as a comedian, you'd wanna walk away from a reference that you'd heard only moments before. Probably. Because you'd wanna show some dexterity or agility. Right, right. You know.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You're really getting into my head here. An element of alrity to to what you do, especially with your reference points But unfortunately, I was I was didn't have the ability to do that. No worries. You said Kate Kate was different. It was good Yeah, I was thinking I think I think that was a good choice. Okay. Look, it's the letter right next to L though Okay, listen. Hey, here's what it is. Not that far afield. Let's put it this way. I'm Scott Ackerman. Yeah. I'm a podcaster.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I mean. I wanna make people laugh. I saw a TV star, writer. Totally. Movie director. Absolutely. Podcaster is like way down at the bottom. And by the way, I'm on my way out.
Starting point is 00:33:21 ATSCO has taken over. Right. Okay. It's gonna be you next. So you're the one with the crosshairs on you now. And by the way, I'm on my way out. ATSCO has taken over. Right. Okay. Yes. It's gonna be you next. So you're the one with the crosshairs on you now. Possibly. I didn't say yes.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I heard a yes. I mean, it was implicit. Yeah, I think, yeah. You know, hey. This might be a good pivot for you. It could, yeah. I'm looking at what you've already achieved in this business Which is so fickle and and you know, the winds are always changing and that's your last name too. Frick is oh sorry
Starting point is 00:33:54 I forget I thought it was something fake, but it's Frick. It's Frick. Oh, you thought it might be Frick. Yeah, David Frick. I'm Otzko Kotzka. You're having another quibbly situation. I know I know it's not Frickle. All right. Frick. I'm Otzko Kotzka. You're having another quibbly situation here. I know, I know. It's not Frickle, it's just Frick. Yeah. So hard juggling three different languages. It's like when you want to say the word, and not to be indelicate, but the F word. Right. The F-U word, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, but you have to say, fuck. Yeah. You can say fuck. But instead of saying it in polite society, you just say- You say, David Frick. Yeah, Frick. Yeah, David Frick. Like that kind of Frick.
Starting point is 00:34:24 This David Frickin Yeah, yeah, David Frank that kind of Frick this David Frick and guy over here, you know, I Went and saw the Bee Gees in Salt Lake City in 1982. Why? Happen to be writing a piece about he writes he has to write about this is like past their prime Well, are you telling me that how deep is your love isn't? How deep most beautiful ballads ever? It's gorgeous and if they were still playing it in 82, that's a wonderful experience to go see them here. Well, it wasn't very long since they had recorded.
Starting point is 00:34:52 They'd recorded it probably five years previous, so they probably were still singing it live. Sure. Yeah. Of course. I would love to see the B.A.G. sing How Deep Is Your Love. See? Who wouldn't? And that's why David was there.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Would I be still writing about them for Rolling Stone? I don't know. You know, the Mormons in Salt Lake City. Hey, don't let Scott talk you down, okay? I see what you do. You get in people's heads. I look, I mean, yeah. You make them question.
Starting point is 00:35:20 You guys move fast. It's hard to keep up. I understand, but what were you going to say about Salt Lake City and the Mormons? See, we were listening. Well, I was going you gonna say about Salt Lake City and the Mormons? See, we were listening. Well, I was gonna say that in Salt Lake City, these are people that they're not drinking coffee. They're not even drinking decaf coffee.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No sodas, no Coke. No Coke, nothing that has any type of- Not a single luxury. That it's all, it's all dope to them. Exactly, yeah. It's all forbidden. It's all, yeah them. Exactly, yeah. It's all forbidden. It's all, yeah. Yeah, just food.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Even four letter words, like fuck, you know. They're not comfortable saying those words. What do they say instead? They say, frick, okay. I'm a Mormon. I'm living in Salt Lake City. I've been led here by Joseph Smith. It's the 1800s.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm walking 20 feet from my tent and digging a hole to evacuate my bowels. Every time you want to do it, I would just keep a hole open and keep it maybe 40 feet away. No, it's a new hole. A new hole every time. It's a new hole every time. These are people that are- So there's a shovel by the door, basically,
Starting point is 00:36:26 of like any time you wanna go take a pee, you just go dig a new hole. I would imagine that they have their implements that they use for gardening, for agriculture. Do they ever mix them up, do you think? And probably the shit shovel. Right, oh, you mean the tools or the holes? Yeah, either.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I guess, yeah. Can you imagine shitting where you're literally shitting where you eat? On your wheat crop or something? I don't know. Perhaps. I don't really know what they grow out there. Yeah. I don't spend a lot of time out there.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Right. Why did you bring it up? Because he was there to watch the band play. When I was there, I heard someone and I could sense on their lips that they wanted to say the word fuck and what came out of their lips was Frick. And I just thought that that was not only was that sort of a convergence, you know, that I ended up being a part of my surname being Frick. I also just found it interesting that these people, not only can they not have a I don't know a frappuccino right but they can't
Starting point is 00:37:25 even let the silly little word you know what is it it you know fuck it's four letters right so that's where you you took that last name from that trip well I believe your name was already my name was our oh I see okay he thought it was a quite a coincidence I found the experience novel because- Thank you, I need that translated. Oh, sure, no, that's why we're co-hosts. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, it aligned with a Mormon substitution. Yeah, so that was fun to watch the Bee Gees?
Starting point is 00:37:56 You felt seen, you felt seen. No. It wasn't fun, what was going on with the Bee Gees? No, I like How Deep Is Your Love, but I don't like any of that other stuff. When did they play How Deep Is Your Love? Was it pretty late? It was pretty early.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Oh no, so you had to stay the entire, why not? Again, this is my question. Just get out of the flume and walk away. Hey, when you have a job to do. No, I stayed. I have a job to do. Yeah, when you have a job to do like I do now, with being co-host.
Starting point is 00:38:20 With being co-host, yeah. You gotta stay. And you're doing a great job. You gotta stay. You're doing a great job. I think this is something that you should that you should really think about, right? Because you're at a crossroads in your career. Yeah. Not the kind of crossroads that Ralph Macchio was in, right?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Where he goes down and Satan comes out and tries to battle him on the guitar or whatever. Ralph Macchio. Wasn't he in that movie, Crossroads? Karate Kid? Yeah, the Karate Kid himself, yeah. It's been a few years since I saw that one, Scott. Yeah. Well, you can always rewatch to know better about what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I suppose so, I guess. You know what? You could do Scott Hasn't Seen with me. I'll come back if the subreddit responds to this. For sure. I'll come back. We'll see how that turns out. Crossroads.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I don't know. Yeah. But couldn't you, I guess my question is, couldn't you have left the concert early and then written whatever and everyone, like who's gonna dispute it? That's true. The Bee Gees, you know? You know, well. They're poked out of their goddamn brotherly minds.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's not just my job to drag somebody through the mud. You know, it's my job to try to elevate this music, you know, to a degree that you could learn from it. I don't like any of it. Who do you like? Who are your favorite musicians? Like, name your favorite song. Come Thou Fount.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Come Thou Fount? Come Thou Fount. What song is that? Oh, is that like a Bible church song? Presbyterian hymn. It's a church song? Yeah. Wait, I might... What is it? Come Thou Foul? Oh, is that like a Bible church song? It's a Presbyterian hymn. It's a church song? Yeah. Wait, I might, I went to church, can you sing it?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Maybe I can join. Maybe I'll understand the title of it if you sing it. You know what, I'll leave the singing to the professionals or whatever. Wow. Come Thou Felt? Come Thou Felt of every blessing. You know that song. I have to confess, I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:40:05 We didn't sing that one in church. Yeah, I don't think I ever sang that either. We did like the classics, right? Yeah, like How Great Thou Art. Or like Awesome God. Awesome God, how did that one go? Uh, right, it's like... You're awesome God.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Kind of, yeah. Our God is an awesome God. It was like a surfer wrote it. Our God is an awesome God. He hangs ten on the universe. Kind of, yeah. That's how that one went. Our God is an awesome God. He hangs 10 on the universe kind of yeah That's how that one went. It's not how it goes. Sorry I'm just trying to figure out though what I mean you write about music for a living. Yeah, you seem to hate look Okay, look look look look I'm Paul McCartney
Starting point is 00:40:40 The Beatles are done You know, I'm sort of looking around my studio. I'm thinking, you know, what's next for me? What do I like to do? Play music with my friends. I get a couple of keyboards together. Maybe my wife plays one of the keyboards. We start knocking around some of the demos.
Starting point is 00:40:59 What do we end up with? We end up with a band. What is that band called? The band is called Wings. Okay, so all you did was take the literal history and then put it in the first person where you were saying you were Paul McCartney? You're not getting it. It's fine. Okay. What is a record, right? What is a record? Well, I mean, if you're talking about an actual vinyl record, it's a... It's a hunk of plastic. Yeah vinyl but yeah, maybe
Starting point is 00:41:27 encased in some Piece of cardboard, you know this hunk of cardboard that some You know studio executive in a tower somewhere, you know with the gold-plated cell phone You know that guy whatever he cooks up, you know, that's not the record The record is the sounds that you're hearing. How do you hear those sounds? You get a stylus, you, you put it on the record and you let it fall into the grooves and, and music comes out.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And, and if you don't get that, you know, I just think that that sucks. Yeah. If your Stitch, um, I just saw Lilo and Stitch, you can put the Stitch puts his finger on it and it opens his mouth and it- Because it's like a sharp fingernail. Yeah, and it plays on his mouth. That's hilarious. You know, he did that. David shut up for a second. Is the whole, is the whole movie like that? Is it funny like that? Yeah, I mean that's just one scene. That's the preview. That's the preview. But there's other scenes that are that funny. Yeah. I gotta see this. You gotta run. You better take your do you see the david?
Starting point is 00:42:28 You gotta think your daughter hiding hiding legs hiding extra legs. Did you put his fingernail on anything else? I mean, i'm not gonna spoil. I mean, this is because this is the kind of humor I like is like people or creatures putting their fingernails down. He's an alien. He's an alien. He's an alien Yeah, so anything then and even more specifically he's a on things. He's an alien. He's an alien. Yeah. So anything then, I guess. And even more specifically, he's a genetic experiment. That's right. That's why they're trying to recapture him.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's right. They're trying to take him back. Yeah. Yeah, because he's some sort of... Well, he shouldn't be on earth. He shouldn't have gotten mixed up with Lilo in the first place. Right. That was an aberration.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Did you interview Lilo too? They're not speaking to each other. What? Wow, that's huge. They haven't spoken in years. This is huge news. Yeah, because they had to act in the most recent movie together.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Did they do scenes together or was it all like composite scenes? It's a shame. You know, it was kind of like, have you seen Heat? Yeah, the Robert De Niro. You know, famous. Were they at Cape Mantellini's? Famously, you know, they didn't face each other. Yeah
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, they weren't there at the same time with there at the same time. Yeah or parent trap Have you seen it? I have Lindsey and the other Lindsey not there at the same time, too I haven't like that. I haven't seen that one. I saw the Haley Mills version. Okay. Oh, yeah, but either way Yeah, the way you weren't there at the same time So yeah, so Lindsey Lohan was was she at Cape Mantellini restaurant? Like they were in heat? What's interesting is that she was. She was actually there as an eyeline, to serve as an eyeline during principal photography.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Lindsay Lohan was there during heat. Robert De Niro was there sitting across the table from an off-camera Lindsay Lohan. This is the- Okay. See, you're a film guy. This is fascinating. You are more like, yeah, Roger and Ebert. I don't know if you've- Roger and- Okay. See, you're a film guy. This is fascinating. You are more like, yeah, Roger and Ebert. I don't know if you've-
Starting point is 00:44:07 Roger and Ebert. Yeah, you both. I don't know if you've cracked open a Rolling Stone recently, but there's information in there about films as well. Why would I have cracked open a Rolling Stone lately? I mean, print is a dying medium. You guys talk about the most antiquated, you know, you're worse than Adam Scott and I talking about, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:25 dad rock over here. You're still talking about the fucking grateful dead and shit like that, I mean. Well, the dead is having a sort of second life. You know, Gen Z, Gen Alpha are embracing jam bands. Okay, David, I don't care. And it's interesting what you bring up about print media. You know, Barnes and Noble has opened over a hundred
Starting point is 00:44:43 new stores in the last year. Okay. And how many have they closed? They haven't closed any. They haven't closed a single store, David? Romantic. Romantic has kind of revived what many people thought was a dying medium. Okay. That's fine. Okay. But I'm just saying like, who buys Rolling Stone anymore? You should be glad you don't work there. You hate music. I like music. You like one song, one hymn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I just, I worry about you, David, because how old are you? You're- I'm 300. 356. 356. I thought so. Because y'all were really keeping up with the references.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I was like, oh, I was such a baby. I wasn't even born. You know, some of the things you guys were talking about. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but- It's okay. You don't have to understand everything, you know, some of the things you guys were talking about. Yeah, exactly, yeah, but. It's okay, you don't have to understand everything, you know, it's, ultimately, you just need to be as authentic as possible to yourself as an artist, right?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Are you that authentic? You're writing about bands you hate. Well, I'm a critic, you know, I. Yeah, but you're not, when you write your profile, you're not criticizing them, you're just writing these glowing, like what did you write about the Bee Gees that night? I said, you know, I show up, I'm looking around,
Starting point is 00:45:49 you know, I'm David Frick. I'm David Frick. I'm a writer. I'm a writer, I've written from Rolling Stone. I know, I get the formula. Right, right, yeah. And what would you do? Your favorite song plays at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:45:59 What would you do, right? Your favorite song plays at the beginning. Yeah. You realize you have two more hours to go. Right, but then you never asked like, what would you do? Your favorite song plays at the beginning. You realize you have two more hours to go. But then you never asked like, what would you do? You just kind of say the thing and then that's over. You know what I mean? Cause you always go, okay, so I'm the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And then that's like, we don't really, I don't know what the next thing is really. I guess the wings. Wings was the next, yeah. But what does David Frick do in this situation? Well, you know, Paul McCartney started wings because the Beatles had achieved such a level of fame, it would have been impossible to continue.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Who the fuck cares? Especially not touring. Who the fuck cares about the Beatles? The Rolling Stones then. Who gives a shit about them? Okay, I'm Charlie Watts. I've been drumming with the Rolling Stones for- You're dead!
Starting point is 00:46:47 And everyone Rolling Stone has ever written about is dead. Wow. Who cares, David? It's not true. Hey, they cover stand-ups, I saw. Your favorite medium that you put in the middle. Yeah, they cover stand-ups as well. Okay, look.
Starting point is 00:47:02 See, they do other stuff. Look, I'm Nikki Glaser. Yeah. Friend of the show See, they do other stuff. Look, I'm Nikki Glaser. Yeah. Friend of the show, so be careful. Sure. Okay, I wanna perform stand-up comedy. What do I need? I need jokes.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Okay, how do I write jokes? And a microphone. And a microphone, yeah, sure. And a stage, usually, too. Maybe that'll be provided by the venue. Maybe it won't. I don't know that. I bring my own, every venue I go to.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You bring your own stage with you? A stage and microphone. And microphone. Just in case. I keep the stage in the I go to. You bring your own stage with you? Stage and microphone. And microphone. Just in case. I keep the stage in the back because usually there is one but- Your overhead is high. That's why you no longer tour. Yeah, exactly. You lost money.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You're always in the red, right? Of course, but I feel the fans deserve it. You know, I do live talks. I moderate Q and A's with bands a lot. That's primarily what I do now at this point in my career. That sounds so cool. Twilight of my career. That sounds cool. Do you so cool. That sounds cool. Do you enjoy it?
Starting point is 00:47:46 It's cool. Well, usually the venues provide the microphones. I'll bring the cords. You bring the cords? You bring the microphone cords? I bring about 500 to 1,000 feet of XLR. Okay. Yeah, wow.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Good. David, you sound cool. I'll bring a guitar stand sometimes. Mostly I just bring a straight stand. Why? Do you play guitar during these talks? Why are'll bring a guitar stand sometimes and mostly I just bring a straight stand, you know Do you play guitar during these talks? Why are you bringing? No, I'm sitting down in deep chairs talking to Don was or You know my god, you could not pay me to go see one of your talks talking to Don fucking was Well, what's wrong with talking to Don was I? Recorded the record andinosaur. I know!
Starting point is 00:48:25 That was one million years ago when the real dinosaurs were around. Who the fuck cares, David? Here's my favorite songs. How Deep is Your Love. Boy Names Sue. Come Thou Found of Every Forest. Walk the Dinosaur. Walk the Dinosaur, the Super Mario Brothers movie version.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Oh, I don't know that one. And then pretty much the entire discography of Bella Fluck. Okay, all right. Well, David, I'm glad you've landed on your feet, you know, now that you're not working for Rolling Stone magazine any longer. I'm doing great. You're doing great, it sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And you're doing great too, by the way. I feel like I am doing great. I'm at least actively participating in a medium that young people care about. I may not be one myself any longer, but at least people, this is a form of communication that young people enjoy. Of course. Yeah. I mean, most kids these days, are they listening to audio books? Are they listening to Moby Dick on their phones? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Are they seeing, you know- I've often walked by teenagers that I can hear just the faint like, call me Ishmael coming out of the headphones. It's interesting is that's not even the first line of the book. Okay, what is the first line? Well, there's an entire proceeding chapter
Starting point is 00:49:43 about how badly this man likes to go out to the water. They should just cut it. Maybe it should have been cut, maybe it shouldn't have. That's not up to us. That's up to Herman Elville. I can cut it. I can tear it out of my book if I want to, can't I? I own the book, right?
Starting point is 00:49:58 Something that's really interesting about Moby Dick. That's aging yourself. We just, you have the actual book. Guys, can I say this real quick? Yeah, say what you want David. Something that's really interesting about Moby Dick. It's actually dedicated to Nathaniel Hawthorne. That's not interesting about anything.
Starting point is 00:50:15 It's not interesting about Moby Dick. It's not interesting about Nathaniel Hawthorne. It's not interesting about books. God damn it, you suck. I think it's iconic he interviewed Stitch. You had me as Stitch. All right David, please you have to stop talking. You suck so bad, but hey, can you stick around? I'm David Frick. I'm sitting here with Otsuko Okatsuka, Scott Ackerman. We're getting into it. We're talking about what are the roots of our history. This isn't your show,
Starting point is 00:50:42 this is me and Otsuko's show. Where do we take it from here? So we'll be right back with more Comedy Bang Bang. No, you're not throwing to commercial. Right after this. We are doing it together. All right. So we have to take a break. We're going to come right back with more Comedy Bang Bang after this. Comedy Bang Bang. We're back. We have Otsuko Katsuka here. Father is the Special. It's out on Hulu now. This runs approximately 60 of your Earth minutes. And it's a good special. I've seen it. I give it the old seal of approval, the thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Thank you so much. Yeah. You're going to make another one? Yes. I'm already to make another one? Yes. I'm already toying with a new hour. Really? Yeah. And so we'll see where that ends up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Maybe. I mean, you've done one to HBO. Why don't you just sell it to HBO right now? And then they say, well, we can't put it out until 2026. Oh my God. Brilliant. Yeah. I could.
Starting point is 00:51:41 You should have just sold the one that you did and then just do a new one for them. And then just go get ahead of it. Can I represent you? Yes. Yeah. You represent me. Yeah. And then you do this show. I'm just not seeing the benefit of doing this show yet. I know you and David were both trying to. You said there's no pay. Yeah. And there's no snacks.
Starting point is 00:52:01 There's no snacks either. Yeah. It gets your name out there. It's exposure and it plugs you into a social media experience. If you're giving it a thumbs up, then I'm really worried about it. I'm having a fabulous time. This is David's favorite thing. David likes nothing but this. You were rhapsodizing about how much
Starting point is 00:52:18 you're enjoying the show during the break. That's your demographics, sweetie. I love the show. You see, look into his eyes. That's your number one fan. Jesus fucking Christ. I listen the show look into his eyes. That's that's your number one fan He's I listen to every episode. I you know, oh my god. I do. He's no Listen, you know look I'm adjacent man. Zookas, you know, I'm a I'm a character Yeah, he's a person who's been on the show several times and Jason man, Zookas his neighbor
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'm kind of you know, I'm looking around, I'm thinking, what am I doing today? Maybe I've already mowed the lawn, maybe I already took the trash to the curb, whatever it was that I had to do. What do I wanna do next? Wanna come hang out with Scott, record an episode of Comedy Bang Bang.
Starting point is 00:52:58 See, this is his dream. I just basically said nothing. And you've taken 60 of my Earth seconds to do it. I think the spokesperson is, we gotta get, is she okay? Why do you measure things like Marvin the Martian? That's my business, all right? Do a profile on me someday.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It'd be the first thing I ask you if I do a Rolling Stone feature on you. I'd love that. You look great. You know what, I am a big fan of your writing. Well, thank you. Not you personally at all or your speaking voice, but I would love for you to do a profile on me.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah, I'd put you on the cover sort of the way that we did with Al Gore in 2000, you know, khaki pants, Heather Grey t-shirt. You dress the people who are on the covers as well. I do. You're the stylist? All the grooming and yeah. You're like a clothes guy.
Starting point is 00:53:45 That's what you're more interested in. I didn't know it was such a small production over there. Yeah. It sounds like, yeah. It's Jan Wenner and you and that's about the extent. Pretty much it, yeah. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Damn. Wow. Well, we have to get to someone with a business of their own. Right, right. If that's okay. Yeah. And he's been on the show once before out in, we were in, was it Madison? Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Madison, Wisconsin. He was on the show before. This is his first time here in studio with us. He is, are you the owner and proprietor of? Absolutely not. Oh, you're just the spokesperson? I'm the former spokesperson. Former spokesperson. That's right. You got two people who are not even in just the spokesperson? I'm the former spokesperson. Former spokesperson.
Starting point is 00:54:25 That's right. You got two people who are not even in their jobs anymore? I know. I need you to help out with the booking as well. Oh my God. I'd love to get my job back. Let's do that. Then there'll be a person in their job on the show.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah, let's introduce him. Is the former spokesperson for Maynards. Please welcome Ray Zmanda. Yay, Ray. Thank you for that welcome, Scott. And thank you. I welcome you to save big money at Maynards. Thank you very much. Seriously. It's pronounced Maynards. Okay. I've never seen one. I am about as interested in it as I am in what David is talking about over
Starting point is 00:55:00 here. You never stopped into one of our many locations around the Great Lakes area? On your tour last summer? Two of May Great Lakes area? I have never been to a Menards. On your tour last summer? No, I never went to a Menards. What do they sell? Is it like fishing goods? We sell fishing goods, outdoor living, indoor decorations, home goods, doors, windows, lighting
Starting point is 00:55:15 fixtures, tools. It's like dick, but it's Menards. Menards! I've been to a Menards. It's a fabulous store. Well, if Stitch is breaking things a lot, I'd recommend picking up a six pack of push brooms, four for $9.92. It's a great deal.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Wow. They have everything. Do you have like a food court or anything? I love food. We have pre-packaged foods up by the register. You can get popcorn balls. Did you bring any with you? Peanut butter taffy, buns. Osco's very hungry right now. And if you brought some with, I mean, you know, how much would you pay for food right now? Whatever. You said it was, I mean.
Starting point is 00:55:50 You talk about brooms. Yeah. Would you eat a broom? Everything sounds very affordable there. So far I hear $4.99. I hear bundles. How much? We have five pound bags of trail mix with cashews and M&M substitutes.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Oh, now he's making me hungry. Two bucks a pound at 8.30 in the morning. Okay, can I just get one pound? Why do I need six brooms? Sold in five pound bags. Can I just buy one push broom? You can buy four packs of six. Four packs of six, that's 24 brooms?
Starting point is 00:56:18 That's a great deal. If that's what you need. Oh, for brooms. I don't need that. Only at Menards. For brooms. I need maybe one broom. Okay. How many brooms do you don't need that. Only at Menards. For brooms. I need maybe one broom. OK.
Starting point is 00:56:27 How many brooms do you have in your house? One that it's barely hanging on. Yeah. I guess I do. You need one broom to use, one broom for when that one goes bad so you don't have to go to the store again and the rest you can give away as housewarming gifts. I guess that's true. I don't know that many people buying houses every year. Not in this economy.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah. Wow, are you getting kind of political there, Ray? Well, if you remember from our live show, I was considering running for mayor. That's right, yeah, whatever happened with that? Not mayor, governor. Whoa, even better, whatever happened with that? I was advised against it.
Starting point is 00:56:57 By whom? By all the people I contacted. Oh, dang. Who'd you contact? I contacted, well, the mayor of Wausau, the mayor of Wausau. I convened all the mayors of all the cities where we had locations. And I also, of course, consulted John Menard, the richest man in Wisconsin. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And they all said just a flat no? The mayor of Wauwatosa said yes. The mayor of Wausau, Waukesha, and Wapaka all said no. Okay. So it's like basically democracy rules there, if four people say no. They think it's problematic that I'm dead. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, when we did the show together, you are dead, right? I died in 2018. And what happened there? Complications from a fall. The way I always wanted to go. Did you fall out of a coconut tree? No, just slipped. I was 91 years old. It's a gentle fall to the ground, but it eventually killed me.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And how are you here right now, I guess? Clawed my way out of hell. Wow, the twists and turns. How is hell, by the way? Well, I'm not sure. By the end of that show, we weren't sure if I had clawed my way out of hell or if I had just emerged from my Y2K bunker. And we never found, you personally never figured this out?
Starting point is 00:58:08 I've not, although I am reverse aging. I'm getting younger. Oh, you are. So how old are you now? I'm in my prime. I'm in my seventies. Oh, he's like Benjamin Button. Yeah, you're at a rapid clip too.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I'm thinking it's going to even out. Okay, so you died seven years ago, and you died at 91. You should be 84 at this point. Right, that's correct. Wow, and when did you know you had a talent for selling stuff? Yeah. Oh, this was an audition.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Oh, were you an actor? I was a broadcaster. Oh, cool. An announcer, local announcer. I announced, I went around to the high schools around Wisconsin where I'm from and I officiated the donkey basketball games. What are the rules on that?
Starting point is 00:58:51 Is that one where you don't want the ball? No, you do want the ball, but you also have to be on a donkey to be able to, that substitutes dribbling. Okay, so you can hold the ball while the donkey's moving. The donkey's traveling though, is that right? Wow. Correct, but if you're on a donkey, that substitutes for dribbling. Okay, so then basically you're on a donkey, what if you step off the donkey like Atsuko
Starting point is 00:59:14 should have stepped off of the flume ride, right? Does that make sense? Quite often people are- Do you get penalized? The referees are very little listened to during a donkey basketball game. So you were officiating these? I was doing the announcing. Oh, I see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And it was a lot of... This is high school teachers versus local DJs in a basketball tournament involving donkeys. Okay, so all the teachers are on one team and all the DJs are on one team or do they mix it up? It's mixed up. So like maybe if there's five people on one team, it's like three DJs, on one team or do they mix it up? It's mixed up. So like maybe if there's five people on one team, it's like three DJs, two teachers. I don't know how many DJs they have. How many DJs does every city have?
Starting point is 00:59:54 One DJ per team. Okay, that's a good ratio. It's interesting, after you died, you kept like your voice, your spokesperson voice, it's just that you die in that voice. Well, this is my on-camera performance voice. Oh, it's your regular voice, it's just that you die in that voice. Well, this is my on-camera performance voice. Oh, what's your regular voice? I don't have a regular voice.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I'm a very quiet person. Oh, so you're totally silent. And then until you speak. That's right. I take in my surroundings. Yeah. So you're an introspective fellow. I would say so.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And so would my wife. Is you have a wife? Yeah. No, my wife is dead. She has not clawed her way out of hell or the bunker. No, Maxine has not. No, she's not. That also leads me to believe that it's not possible to come back from the dead. Okay, so because she would to be with you, you think?
Starting point is 01:00:34 I believe so. Hmm. Okay. And why? If not, she'd at least claw her way back to the land of living to save big money at Menards. That's true, because the brooms, yeah. And why do you think you're aging in reverse? Because that's a unique new wrinkle. to save big money at Menards. That's true, because the brooms, yeah. And why do you think you're aging in reverse? Because that's a unique new wrinkle.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I'm filled with vim and vigor. Come on, the energy. He speaks from his diaphragm. Yeah. I mean, I guess if we all just spoke from our diaphragms, we could maybe not age. Is that the key? It's not about age, it's reverse aging. Reverse aging, yeah. My wardrobe is regressing. Oh really? When I died, I wore a classic deep v-neck sweater with a tie.
Starting point is 01:01:13 How deep? All the way down to my sternum. Right around my xiphoid process. It's too deep. It's pretty deep. Yeah, that's it. You can see my whole pocket of my shirt. Wow, so you had a shirt underneath. Yes, with a tie. Yes. Before that, I was wearing what I'm wearing now, a blue pol my shirt. Wow, that's sexy. Oh, so you had a shirt underneath. Yes, with a tie. Oh, okay. Before that, I was wearing what I'm wearing now, a blue polo shirt. Okay, so your clothes are reversing, so eventually you'll get back down to short pants and diapers?
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm not sure. I'm not sure the rules of this. Yeah, do you think that you're gonna live another 84 years until finally you're just a baby now, or could you be hit by a bus? That was the thing about Benjamin Button is like, oh wow, he's aging backwards. Like what if he got hit by a bus when he was 79?
Starting point is 01:01:51 Does he turn? That's Meet Joe Black. Oh, that's Meet Joe Black. That's the other Brad Pitt. You're conflating Brad Pitt. Yeah, yeah. You ever interview Brad Pitt? I did, yeah, actually, yes.
Starting point is 01:02:02 For Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, it was fairly recently. Wow, recently, yeah. How was it? How was he? I don't know, it, actually, yes. For once upon a time in Hollywood, it was fairly recently. Wow, recently, yeah. How was it? How was it? I don't know, it was a hot day. I hadn't really eaten enough. I needed some still water. God, I'm so sorry I asked you about this.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Hot day. We have hot savings at our location in Stillwater, Minnesota. It's one that I've been to before. Still water's a great town. It's fantastic. We have candy corn available all year long. So you're still keeping up with the prices at Menards? I have sticker shock.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So the prices, do they change? Do they change over the years? They must have, right? Are these the prices that you remember? Absolutely. They are. I would sell you a pillow window for $6.82 a foot. Meanwhile, if you go into a store now, they're prefabricated $6.92 an inch. Oh, okay. So they did change. I don't know what these are. Probably because the tariffs, you know, you got to change. Because I said $2 per, I
Starting point is 01:02:56 forget the math, something about 10 for two. Yeah, foot, inch. Yeah. What are you even talking about? What is it? Thompson Lighting Fixtures shed a little light on your paycheck by providing big savings at Menards. Oh. That's the reason to buy these is so that you can look at your paycheck.
Starting point is 01:03:11 You save big money. Yeah. But wouldn't your paycheck- Invite quality into your life, Scott. Wouldn't your paycheck already have a fixed amount and then you would know? Never mind. Well, you're gonna make those pennies and cents stretch farther. Is it commission?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Wow. Did you get a commission? That's a good question though. Did you get a commission for like- Everything you got to sell. Let's say I buy these brooms. What do you get now? If you buy a broom and you say that old Ray sent you, I get a nickel.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I get $10,000 every time they open a new store. Okay. Wow. And I cut the ribbon. Oh. That's open a new store. Okay. Wow. And I cut the ribbon. Oh. That's the deal. Ray cuts the ribbons. Right, of course.
Starting point is 01:03:50 So would they sort of try to kind of cheat you out of the $10,000 by not having you cut the ribbon? They would try. Okay, but you would always show up with scissors. Correct. And I'd say, ribbons already cut. Too late. Too late.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah. I got here at four in the morning and cut the ribbon. I love this spirit, you know. I do. As a former cheerleader, I can really relate to this idea of wanting to just, you know, sell, sell, sell. Yeah. You know, we're happy. Well, you know, I heard you say, I don't think that cheerleaders have nothing to do because
Starting point is 01:04:19 football players feed off the energy of the crowd. And if you are leading those cheers, you are delivering energy, performance, power to those players. Thank you so much. That's true. Yeah. It doesn't really work though. Although other countries don't have cheerleaders. Yeah. On my tour, I was cognizant of that. All right. So did you have to cut that entire chunk? No, I would tell them that, you know, they've watched American movies. Yeah, they've watched bring it on or cheer the Netflix, uh, docu-series, you know, Lilo and Stitch has like at least something to do with cheerleaders in it. He's so funny from what I hear. He's got a scene where he puts his fingernail down on a record and you're obsessed. I'm so, you're going
Starting point is 01:04:58 to be like David after that scene is over, you're like, Oh God, there's more of this. I'd like to see Stitch get into a clothes dryer, come flying out of it dressed as a cheerleader land on a football field on top of a pyramid. Let me guess, I love that too. Let me guess you sell footballs at Menards? We do. We have all sorts of sporting goods from athletics to hunting and fishing supplies. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And do you have children by the, I meant to ask you this? I'd like not to talk about it. I lost my son. Oh, wow. Is he also a ghost? So he's also a ghost. Do you lose him in Menards? It's Menards. Is he still wandering around Menards somewhere? No, I believe he just passed. Oh, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Wow. Well, this is a lovely tribute to him, though, being on this show this week. Yeah, and that you're back and still selling. All I care about is getting back on the air. I like your indomitable spirit. Thank you very much. That even though you've suffered the indignities of life and hell, you've lost family members. You still wake up every day. You say, I got to move these brooms. I got to move this caramel popcorn. You pick yourself up, you dust yourself off, these brooms. I got to move this caramel popcorn. You pick yourself up, you dust yourself off, you keep moving.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I think that's great. And David doesn't like much. Yeah, he doesn't like music. He barely likes films. I like a lot of stuff. He likes five songs. I don't know where you're getting this. You'd love a gallon of satin spread, glittering paint.
Starting point is 01:06:18 $3.99 a gallon. I'd buy it right now and I have. When I was there in Minnesota, Stillwater location,. I bought eleven thousand dollars worth of paint. Why what were you? What were you doing in Minnesota needing eleven thousand dollars worth of paint painting a mural of Bob Dylan on the side of a museum Is he your king? I Love the music of Bob Dylan. Are you a great stuff? I paint sometimes how did it come out? Did it look like him? He's done a lot of great stuff. I paint sometimes. How'd it come out? Did it look like him?
Starting point is 01:06:47 Let's just say. He's just a bunch of hair. You don't really have to. Let's just say one day everything's gonna be like a rhapsody when I paint my masterpiece. Okay, I think that's. That sounds like a veiled threat. It's either a Dylan lyric or a veiled threat.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Are you gonna assassinate Bob Dylan? I don't have any plans to in the future. Okay, well then probably not then, unless plans pop up into your head, I guess. He is 84 and so he is in a place in his life where- That's how the ray is. We're tied. Yeah, you're tied except one's unfortunately dead. One's going the other way. One is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I have a feeling I'm going gonna level out in my 60s. Let us know when that does happen, by the way. Sure, mathematically it should be, I don't know, two years. That would be a bummer though to suddenly like, realize that you're aging backwards and you're like four years old. Like I bet when you go through reverse puberty and you're like, oh no, now there's no hair on my,
Starting point is 01:07:44 on my, what's a polite way of saying this, Johnson? Pubis! On my Menard! Pubis. Menards! On my Menards. And now that is a very common thing for children in the Midwest to say, save big money at Menards! And I am against that.
Starting point is 01:08:01 You don't like this? No, I find it disrespectful to the big savings that we provide at Menards. Say, does Menards think of like, do they have any plans of expanding? Cause I'm just, I'm in the West coast. Yeah, we haven't been able to be. We can't get these deals. Yeah, we are in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana,
Starting point is 01:08:19 Iowa, Michigan, North Dakota, South Dakota. Oh, so no. Okay, but I guess her question was, are there plans of expanding? Well, I'm not aware anymore. John Menard won't return my call. Yeah, what's going on? So were you fired or did you die?
Starting point is 01:08:35 Why did you lose the spokesperson job? I was forced to retire in 1997. By Mr. Menard and what were the circumstances? Was it a pre-Me Too kind of situation? What's that? Pre-Me Too? I was not a pre-Me. I was born past my due date.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh, wait, how late? I was born three months after my due date. Wow. Well, it wasn't my fault. The doctor made a mistake. I think you could have gotten out of the flume though. He told my mom, this guy's going to be here in four months. Well, still. But I guess what were the circumstances? Why were you forced out of the job? Well, to be honest, I think they were looking for
Starting point is 01:09:17 a cheaper way to advertise. A younger, more youthful energy. They didn't want to pay for on camera talent. Okay. So, so why are you still so caught up in the Menards whole thing? You, you just love it? I like it when people recognize me. Yeah, I mean, I guess. We can relate to that. I mean, you, yeah, I mean, you're on the Flume tickets, wet selfies. These glasses are non-prescription. They don't even have glass in them, but I wear them when I go out to dinner. Let me poke my finger through them. Ow!
Starting point is 01:09:50 Knock it off. He's telling the truth. He still feels. I'm gonna have to head down to the optical center at Menard. That was unkind. I just wanted to see the question, the veracity of his statement.
Starting point is 01:10:03 You did it like I was a ghost. Like you thought you'd go right through me. I thought that's how it worked. I'macity of his statement. But you did it like I was a ghost. Like you thought you'd go right through me. I kind of thought that's how it worked. I'm kind of, yeah. Are you a ghost? He's not a ghost. He's come back from hell. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Like physical. So you're like- I just want to make sure you are not a ghost. You're not haunting us. I've been bumping into things nonstop. Let me ask you something, Scott. Yeah, David. Is Spawn a ghost?
Starting point is 01:10:24 I mean, this is a good question. Is Spawn, is the, is the clown played by John Leguizamo a ghost? I don't know. The Violator? Well, that's the only other person that I could think of who was in hell and came back. Well, Jesus Christ. So I'm Spawn, right? Jesus Christ descended into hell on the third day and rose again.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah, the third day. And he was like, get me out of here. Also like Spahn went in a black guy came out a white guy. You know, there's an argument to be made there. There are a number of black American churches that- Depict. That propose that Christ had features, you know. He was also African born.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yes, yes. Thank you, David. You're just a continuous fountain of inane bullshit And these people these people think Jesus had features Well, did he direct his eyes when he was working yeah, that's an interesting thing that you brought up from earlier in the program I think that's really cool. That's do that comedians do callbacks. Yes. Yeah callback. Yeah, exactly Yeah, it's sort of like a reprise on a record or in a yes, probably show. Yes. Yes, so Ray
Starting point is 01:11:34 DeAngelo's Black Messiah great record. Okay, so you do like that record? I do. What songs on it do you like? I don't know. You have you listened to it? No You know, you just think it's. Have you listened to it? No. So you just think it's good because you've heard it's good? It's good stuff. Okay. I used to be a professional drummer. Wow. Really, Ray?
Starting point is 01:11:53 We're surrounded by musicians. What genre, what style? Big band. Big band. Killed by rock and roll, haven't touched an instrument since. You can still play it even though it's not popular. What's the point? Well, you can pursue your own interests. If I don't get the attention, I don't want it.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Right. So you're like an attention, I don't want to say whore, sex worker. Goodness, thank you. Yes. Right? Even he's- Sex work is work and I'm here to work. For attention.
Starting point is 01:12:19 For attention, aka sex. He didn't know me too, but he knows sex work is the right way to say it. So you escaped Me Too because you died in 2019? 2018. 2018. And when did it start happening? Was it? Around then, 2017 I thought, but I also have never heard of it before.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Well, you know, Meghan Toohey was following Trump on the campaign trail. By the way, did she base this whole thing on her name? Me, Megan, Toohey, Too, Me Too. It's very possible. What's up, Toohey? What, the whole thing is just a pun for a pun? Yeah, it's just her like trying to get her name out there or something. I don't know. What do we think?
Starting point is 01:13:01 How do we feel about Me Too these days, guys? Oh my God. Hey, you brought it up. Scott with his updated references. I don't know. What do we think? How do we feel about Me Too these days, guys? Oh my God. Hey, you brought it up. Scott with his updated references. So Ray, I mean, if Maynards, Maynards? Menards! Menards were to come crawling back to you.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And Mr. Menards says, or maybe even Mr. Menard, you know, time takes care of him. He goes into hell. He's not- Well then we've got to deal with John Menards Jr. Okay, is he a fan? He's a fan of racing cars. Okay, well close. But say he comes crawling back to you and says like,
Starting point is 01:13:38 you know what, Ray, things were great at Menards when you were our spokesperson, can you come back? I'll do it. So no matter what the terms are? I don't need terms. You just love the fame. As long as the term is that I get myself back in front of a camera.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Okay, well I hope that happens for you. I mean, I certainly. Yeah, we can relate to that, right? And the glasses with even though there's no lens, I keep this haircut, I feel like I can't ever change it. Yeah, well yeah, what would happen if you did a special and you came out one day Oh, and you had long just luxurious flowing locks down to your ass.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Can Santa change his? Does Minnie Mouse ever not wear her bow? Yeah. What if Santa had a goatee? You know what I mean? Yeah. No, that's not Santa. So yeah, then that's Exactly. You're locked into it now for all of time, aren't you? I mean, yeah, a little bit, yeah. I mean, my fans show up to my shows wearing wigs of my bowl cut. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:14:30 What am I gonna just, they bought the wigs. But you know how Weird Al changed? He straightened his hair and he shaved off his mustache. You could do that once, I feel like. Like he was able to do it once, he can't do it again. Yeah, you could do like different eras. Yeah, Metallica's got short hair for a little while. Sure, yeah, do it again. Yeah, you could do like different eras. Yeah, Metallica's got short hair for a little while. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Yeah, you could do it, yeah. You should do it. With like enough heads up, you know? Yeah, heads up, seven up. And like a story, right? This is a new era. You could start wearing wigs. That's right, yeah, wigs of my bowl cut too.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Gently acclimate your audience and fans to different hairstyles. That's right, do they sell wigs? Let me guess. Menards. Menards, we do. We do. In which section would that be? In the beauty?
Starting point is 01:15:10 In the beauty section. Oh, okay. We've got mismatched makeup brushes in a bin. Ooh, incredible. Turn right and find the wigs. Let me ask, if I wanted to buy a wig at Menards, say, all right, look, I'm David Frigg. I'm walking around Menards.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I wanna wear a different hairstyle than the one I have on, you know, possibly not even use my own hair for it. Maybe it's somebody else's, maybe it's synthetic. Maybe it's South Indian hair. Jesus Christ, get to the fucking point. You know, and I'm looking at the wigs at Menards. How much can I expect to spend? My budget, before you begin, my budget is $9,000.
Starting point is 01:15:44 That's a huge fucking wig. You can open up a Menards. You could lock in big savings, $12 an inch at Menards on wigs. $12 per, that's, first of all, that's too expensive. That's very pricey now. And secondly, why is your budget $9,000 for wigs? So can I, so I can afford two to three wigs at Menards. That's true because they sound expensive.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And you're not sure where I'm measuring from. Yeah, is it from the base? It's across. Or from the tip? Across. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. David, I don't know what's going on with your finances or your life that you need these
Starting point is 01:16:23 wigs and why you have so much kind of spare pocket money to spend on these. I got in early with Dan Aykroyd on House of Blues and Hard Rock Cafe. Okay, they all went out of business though. Not before I was able to you cash it from the business when I saw how is the restaurants were going. How is Dan by the way? Was he at the SNL 50? Do you know? I wouldn't know. I wasn't invited to that ceremony. You weren't invited? David Frick didn't go to SNL 50? No, I was busy.
Starting point is 01:16:52 What were you doing? What were you doing? I was seeing Screaming Females with White Reaper. How was that? Did you enjoy that? It was a great show. Okay, but do you like their music? Yeah, I think she's a fabulous guitarist. Okay, but do you like it?
Starting point is 01:17:03 Yeah, it's good music. Oh, but is it, but do you like it? Yeah, it's good music. But is it good? Do you like it? What's good music? You know, I'm okay. So I'm Marissa Paternoster. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. We don't have time for this. All right. Well, Ray, thank you so much for coming by again. I really hope that you get back into Menards.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And I hope you get back into big savings at Menards. I thought you were going to say back into my TV show, but thanks. I appreciate that. Please get back into your TV show. Do you need an announcer? That would be great. I would like, I think if I do another season of the Bang Bang TV show, you as the announcer would be, that's a lock.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Ladies and gentlemen, Comedy Bang Bang's own Scott Aukerman. Yes. Wow. From Comedy Bang Bang and he's on Comedy Bang Bang? That's right. We are running out of time, though, guys. We only have time for one final feature on the show. That's something called Plugs.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Plugs, plug the toilet, plug it up. Plug a woman, plug a man. Little Dutch boy, plug it up a damn. Plugs. Oh, OK. That was Limp Plugs It by the Aging Punk and the Complainers. All right, look guys, what are we plugging? ASCO, Father is out right now and it's on Hulu.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Hulu Disney Plus. And also your previous special was called something with an I. The Intruder. Intruder, yes. Peter Gabriel had a, why am I talking to you again? Peter Gabriel, yeah, oh no, you're gonna ask David if he. Yeah, he had a song called Intruder. Intruder, yes. Yeah, the intruder. Peter Gabriel had a, why am I talking to you again? Peter Gabriel, yeah. Oh no, you're gonna ask David if he. Yeah, he had a song called Intruder. But then I turned to David and realized my mistake right away.
Starting point is 01:18:33 It's such a shame that you bring Peter Gabriel. No, it's not. He said, so I'm Peter Gabriel, right? And I just wrote intruder. Anything else going on that you want to plug here? Oh, just, yeah, you can catch me on tour. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:48 How do people get information about where you might be popping up in their city? I'm at odds go comedy.com. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And, uh, David Frick, what do you plug in here? Look, I'm James Austin Johnson. What?
Starting point is 01:18:59 I'm touring the, the nation summer. How do we, you know, how do I get the information out about that? I point. Oh, I see, you're profiling. Right, yeah. James Austin Johnson, the Saturday Night Live cast member. Guy, the America's Trump, or you know. America's Trump and Trump's America.
Starting point is 01:19:17 America's second Trump. Yeah, America's second Trump. We love Trump so much, we want a second one that we check in with every week. Exactly. Well, we did get to, and we got a second time. Sometimes for too long and to diminishing returns, a lot of people might say. So you can go to jamesoffersonjohnson.com.
Starting point is 01:19:31 The first time's funny, second time is a spanking. It's true, yeah. Well, you know, if you've tapped into a vein, you know, look, I'm Warren Michaels. I feel like I've found a vein of comedy that I need to follow. What do I do with that? I put it on TV as much as I can. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And so say you're this guy, this James Austin Johnson. James Austin Johnson, yeah. And you are touring the country this summer. Touring the country this summer, that's right. And doing standup comedy? Yeah, and while audiences haven't quite come back in full force for live entertainment since the days before COVID.
Starting point is 01:20:12 People are still seeking out entertainment. I think that's great. So you can go to jamesaustinjohnson.com, you can go to my Instagram. David Frick's Instagram? Yeah, no, I'm James Austin Johnson. Okay, so you're so deep into the character that you're profiling right now.
Starting point is 01:20:27 This is my rhetorical strategy. Got it, got it. So at J.A.J. Center, find all the information there. That's how I do it. Wasn't it Shrimp J.A.J. for a while? It was for a while, but ultimately we had a discussion about whether that was something that should continue. Hey, it was memorable, because we still remember it.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Yeah, I don't even know what the other thing you said was, but I still remember Shrimp J.A.J. Judge Center, you know, it's the center for all the James Austin Johnson stuff. Love it. And Ray Zmanda? That's right, just like Ruth's Chris. Ray Zmanda.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Ray Zmanda, what do you want to plug here? As mentioned in the plugs bag song, we've got Dutch Boy Paint, a Nicola Quartz, select varieties, matte finish. Did they mention that in the song? I said the word Dutch Boy. Oh, okay. I thought that was a cue for me. Also, I'd say check out the Those Who Ant podcast.
Starting point is 01:21:19 What is that? Is that about the comedy of Ant? It's a podcast that helps you see the world through ant colored glasses. I don't know what this means. We'll have to tune in to find out. I prefer to know before I tune in. It's a podcast about, hosted by two ants who love their nieces, nephews, and niblings. Oh, oh, aunts. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Okay. I thought it was like a Bugs Life. Well, they call their fans the ant colony. Okay, that's fun. So I say ant. Okay, got it. And it's a more Midwestern thing too, right? I don't think so. I think it has worldwide appeal.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, ants. All right. I wanna plug, look, head over to cbbworld.com and you can get a subscription. You can get every single episode of Comedy Bang Bang, all of our previous episodes ad free, new episodes ad free, you can get every live episode we've ever done. That's thousands of episodes of Comedy Bang Bang all over there. Also, we have new shows. We have CBB Presents shows, like Who Me with the Batman, Chris Catan was just on. Was he on at SNL 50 if you're James
Starting point is 01:22:21 Austin Johnson? Yeah, Chris Catan was there. Fantastic. And we also have Hey Randy, we have College Town, we have the Neighborhood Listen, we have Scott Hasn't Seen where I watch movies with people that, that guy you were mentioning, James Austin Johnson, we watched From Russia With Love, I believe, and talked about. That's right, it was a great episode.
Starting point is 01:22:42 One of our best episodes. One of the best episodes of podcasting, I think, possibly in the history of the medium. I also watched Jumpin' Jack Flash, I believe, with another guy. Oh, that's a fantastic movie. Not in my estimation, but spoiler alert. Penny Marshall's first directorial debut. Yeah, that's right. But head over to CBBworld.com and you can get a subscription over there.
Starting point is 01:23:03 All right, let's close up the old plug bag. Open the plug bag with me, dude. Please don't close it with me. Open the plug bag with me, dude. Please don't close it with me. Ah, yes, that was Open the Plug Bag with Me, Dude by Jonathan Astonish. Thanks so much to Jonathan Astonish and the aging punk and the complainers.
Starting point is 01:23:29 If you have a plugs theme, go to cbbworld.com slash plugs, right? Yeah, and you can upload all of your stuff up there and all of that stuff. And I want to thank our guest, Asko. It's so wonderful to have you on the show for the first time. I would love to continue this relationship going forward. Do we need to formalize it at all in writing? I mean, you know, you have this whiteboard here. Yeah, we could put a contract on that.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I could put it. Yeah. Just sign that and I'll. And then you'll write the words later. Yeah, that's fill in the contract. That's how people get trapped into bad contracts. Yeah, exactly. But not with me, obviously. Not with a whiteboard where you could just erase it. Yeah, there you go. So just sign that there for me.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Meanwhile, while you're doing that, David Frick, so wonderful to... Well, I'm not going to lie, it was really a drag to meet you. You know, that's unfortunate to hear, but I to thank you Scott for joining us today as well as you at school and You're a show. I thought it was a fabulous talk I want to thank everybody here at the 92nd Street Y for joining us tonight What you're giving talks at the Y that's a that's a yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I, you're a sad guy is all I'm saying. I'm not sad. I have an enjoyable life.
Starting point is 01:24:47 I have a full life. Do you have loved ones? Are you married? I have loved ones, yeah. Okay. I have a lot of sex. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Like how often? Surprising amount. For a 73 year old, I have a lot of sex. Like per week, what are we talking about? I don't know. Five to six sessions of missionary. Wow. Five to six sessions of mish per week
Starting point is 01:25:05 Half dozen mish is here I mean I gotta give it up to you David for that. Yeah mish is on the half That's about as many times like Broadway performers perform in a week. That's right. Yeah, usually you do Well, let's see that nay on yeah, you do it you do a matinee on Wednesday anyway uh and then Ray Scott good luck to you if you're looking for sex we got really cruisy bathrooms at Menards I'll keep that in mind and that's free all right we'll see you next time thanks bye bye

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