Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Classic Colonizer
Episode Date: November 27, 2025Conan chats with Arjun from Kerala in southern India about looking for a partner, Kerala’s history as a spice hub, and what it would take to accept Conan as his wingman. Wanna get a chance to talk ...to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hi, Arjun.
Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan.
Hi, Matt, Sona, Conan.
Hi.
How are you, Arjun?
It's nice to meet you.
It is so nice to meet.
All this is so ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
Arjun, we are ridiculous.
ridiculous people, and we thank you for taking the time to speak to us.
Arjun, I have some questions for you.
Where are you in the world at this moment?
Where in this vast spinning blue globe we call Earth, are you?
I am in the southern part of India.
Southern part of India.
What is that called?
South India.
I love this guy.
I love this guy.
Well, I guess I asked a really stupid question.
I thought maybe there was a name of a town,
but maybe it's in that part of Southern India
where nothing is named that I've heard so much about.
Yeah, we've...
Is the region have a certain name that I could find on a map?
You can.
I'm calling from Bangal, but I am from this place called Kerala,
which is at the even more south of Bangalore.
Okay, Kerala.
And is that a rural area, or is it a big city?
It's a state.
so it has both
all of it
okay
you know what
I never want
to interrogate you again
you are
you should consider
being a spy
because I don't think
people are going to
get information
every time I ask you
a question
I know less about you
I live in a place
it's a place
that's next to another place
well tell me a little bit
about yourself
Arjun what do you
want us to know
about you
I
what do I
want you to know
about me
I am single.
I don't know why that's the first thing.
You're single.
You realize this is not a hookup website we're on right now.
But I was told something different in the field.
Okay, well, listen, I'm an Ares, and I like to play the guitar, and eat only starches.
I do like Irish men, red hair, but Bill Burr.
Oh, Bill Burr.
Oh, Bill Burr.
You're looking for a Bill Burr.
I know Bill Burr, and I could connect you guys.
So I could do that.
I could maybe connect you to Bill Burr.
He has a life.
I'm not a home vehicle.
So what?
I've got a wife.
Anyway.
I would say anything about you, though.
He was talking about Bill Burr.
You offered yourself and he said you wanted Bill Burr.
Those bonds are tenuous.
So Arjun, yeah, tell me about yourself.
Are you gay?
How dare.
Yes, I am.
Are you looking?
Are you seeking?
a relationship right now?
Always, because I keep falling
for straight dudes, which
is inconvenient for
both of us.
Hey, I just watched your episode with
Timothy Oliphant, and yeah,
I get it. Yeah, yeah, oh, trust me.
What's not to get? Yeah, he's
the whole package.
I apologize. I don't know how
that translates to southern India.
But,
so is that true? You always fall
for straight guys?
Yeah, most of the time.
They're so irisistible, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, they don't like you
and that's so hard.
Yeah.
Do you think it's possible
that on a subliminal
psychological level, you might be
doing that because you're scared
of a commitment?
Is it possible that you're
doing that?
How are you talking to my therapist?
Well, I mean, it just occurred to me
that might be.
Is that something that someone,
A therapist has told you?
Yeah, she thinks it's because I'm homophobic.
Which doesn't make sense to me.
I love this.
This is sounding like the gay version of you.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Or just me.
With self-hating.
So you're gay, but you are homophobic and this causes you problems.
I mean, yeah, a lot of problems, yes.
Well, I want you to be happy.
You seem like a really nice person.
and so maybe I'm, I want to help you in some way if I can.
I'd appreciate that a lot.
Yeah.
How do you think I could assist you in your life?
What are the things I could do for you, Arjun?
I mean, you can come to India.
You can come to Bangalore.
You can come to Kerala.
I'll be in either of the places wherever you'll be.
And we can go out.
And how would I be in this area you're talking about Kerala that's in the south
and sounds a little rural, would I be accepted there?
How would people feel about me?
Oh, we are very accepting.
In fact, you know, back in the 1400s, I'm going to go way back,
when...
I have no idea where this is going to go.
Let's hear it.
I'm all up for this.
Back in the 1400s, I'm getting a bedtime story right now.
Back in the 1400s, Kela was known as the Land.
of spices, or what Kerales today, back then, was known as a land of spices. The Malabar coast
was exporting a lot of spices, like black pepper and cardamom and cinnamon and all of that,
and it was very valuable in Europe and in the Arab world and everywhere, even more valuable than
gold. So Europeans wanted, but the trade was controlled by Arabs and Ottomans, if I'm not
wrong. But the Europeans wanted their own connection to Kerala. So this is a guy called
Christopher Columbus set sail
and landed in the Bahamas
and thought that was Kerala.
Columbus mistakenly thought he had
arrived in India and
India. So that's why he started calling
yeah. So we, after that
the Portuguese came,
the Dutch came, the French
came and the British came. We loved all
of them. We couldn't get them to leave
for like 200 years. So we are
very accepting. We are very accepting. We are very accepting
Well, guess what? Arjun, I have news for you.
You will have a hard time getting me to leave.
I've heard that before.
I think you need to arrive in like an Irish-flagged boat.
Like, you've been at sea for months and months.
A Viking. I want a Viking boat that I arrive in.
They're going to accept you because you remind them of the colonizers.
Oh, there you go. Yeah. I'm there to colonize men. Never to an Irishman. Never to an Irish.
Never.
Yeah, I don't think the Irish colonized much of anything.
No, I know. You couldn't get us out of our house.
We were innocent of all colonized.
because we just wanted to hang out in the house and non-a-tator.
Yeah, we've been colonizing Ireland, actually.
Like, most of my cousins are in Ireland randomly.
Yeah.
So, yeah, but they're used to it.
Irish are used to being colonized.
Yes, so that's fine.
Yes, we're easy, you know, we're easy going.
If you know anything about us, we're very easygoing.
He said lying through his teeth.
Arjun, what do you do for a living?
What's your profession?
How do you make a living?
What's your the story?
Take us back to the 1400s.
Back in the 1400s, right after Vasco da Gama landed in the, yeah.
So I am a writer, but I think I'm a marketer.
I'm in marketing.
Yeah.
But what kind of stuff do you write?
What do you write?
Not the things that I should be writing, but I write for capitalism mainly because I'm in marketing.
But I do want to write like a screenplay or like a book.
Oh.
Shout out to Sona.
Yeah.
So, yeah, one day.
That's right.
She's the author in the room.
Yeah.
Which is really cool.
She's the, yeah, author in the room.
And.
And Sona has another book coming out.
I just finished it.
Yeah.
She just finished reading it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
The World's Worst Mom.
Yeah, World's Worst Mom.
Wonderful.
Wow.
You were either excited or very frightened at the prospect.
I am.
That came across the fear.
I am excited.
Because I couldn't read the first one yet.
I couldn't get it anywhere here.
You should talk to your publisher.
There's a whole market in southern India, not being specific as to where, but there's a whole.
Well, that's why it's not there because they couldn't figure out where to send it.
If you go, I'll send it with you.
So Arjun, let's say I were to come and visit you.
What kinds of things would we do?
We'd go out, that I insist upon.
That would be fun.
And you think I'd mix well.
People would be happy to see me, maybe.
Yeah. They couldn't look away from you, even if they tried. But it would be fun.
You're like the sun.
That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. They couldn't look away from you even if they
tried. You're, when the arc opens and Raiders in the last arc, people's faces will
melt off.
She's beautiful. Yeah, we could go to Doit. You remember Doit? You may not remember Doit.
There's a picture of you outside the restroom in Toad.
Oh, I've heard about this.
This was on another coach.
Yes, yes.
I was thrilled to hear.
I was speaking to another fan who said there's a picture of me outside the restroom,
and I've never been more excited.
Yeah, so that was supposed to be my story when I was going to talk to you.
He's told my story.
He doesn't know me.
I don't know him, but I know his name, Nikhil.
And he's told my story.
So the only way for me to get back at him is for us to go to Toyd together.
he can be invited
Isn't it better if he's not invited
No, he has to be invited
But he has to be seated
Like six feet away from us
I think you guys should put up a poster of the two of you
Right next to the other one
You know
When the other fan hears
That I came all the way to India
And that he told me about the picture
Outside the bathroom in Bangalore
But I went with Arjun instead of him
And literally we passed his apartment
That would crush him.
That's brutal.
That would be...
Why do we want to crush this?
You have such an aggression
towards this person
you've never met before.
It just feels so...
Because he took his idea.
I see.
Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
You're right.
It's warranted.
You're right.
And I'm just happy to have aggression
towards anyone,
so I jumped on board right away.
It makes you a classic colonizer.
Eduardo's very good.
Eduardo's right.
I'm a classic colonizer.
You're mad at someone?
Me too.
Just stoking wars
You both came by it honestly though
So what if you both met
And maybe there's like a
You guys could kind of like argue
For who gets to keep it or something like that
Keep what?
The poster.
No, the poster has to stay outside the bathroom.
You're going to fight for the poster?
I want that thing that's been hanging outside the men's room.
No, I want it.
What world are you in?
I've been their world.
Apparently, it's there in all the Toit in India.
Like, Toid has different, it started in Bangal, but I think it's in other cities, and they all have a compulsor according to Reddit.
So that's a thing.
Well, here's what I want to do.
You should get money out of it.
Please, Arjun, I'm not into monetizing things.
It's not my thing.
I colonize, but I don't monetize.
And I really need to moisturize.
Arjun, here's what I want to do.
I want, because what I'd like to do,
is hit the town with you.
And maybe, do you think that I would be a good wingman for your romantic pursuits?
Or do you think I'd be a bad wingman?
Would I help your game or hurt your game?
I think you'll help my game.
If you're in Bangalore, obviously.
Yeah.
Because it's a city and there are more people.
And, but I don't know, there are no queer, public queer spaces.
Is that true?
There are.
There are.
but it's just that maybe I don't go there
but yeah I'm not invited
but yeah if you are here
we will go to a queer space
there used to be a lot of pubs
before the pandemic there used to be a lot of
bars and pubs that were queer friendly spaces
but then they closed down unfortunately
due to the pandemic but then now I'm sure
there are there are drag nights at some places
we can go and oh yeah and then there are
improv improv is becoming a thing in Bangladesh
never used to be a thing
it started becoming a thing recently
and I went to a workshop
who's so cringe, I loved it
so I feel like
it can take you back to your olden days.
Yes, I would love that.
I would love to, I mean, I would like the idea
of going to any place that you want to go
and it would be fun.
It would be fun to, I have a serious question
which is, because I'm not aware,
is there acceptance
of the queer community?
community in India?
Is there a growing acceptance?
Do you feel comfortable?
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I live in a bubble.
I live in a city, so it's pretty, things seem very okay to me.
Yeah.
But when you go to other places, things may be a little different.
But again, I'm, you know, in a bubble.
My family, my friends are all pretty cool with things.
That's good.
So, yeah, they're fine.
But otherwise, yeah, it's not a,
huge deal, I'd assume, especially
for your audience in
India. Because even if you shoot something
that is extremely queer
and put it out there,
it'll be your fans in India who'll be seeing it.
Yeah. And your fans
are inherently nice people.
Oh, that's nice to know.
See, what do they find out? I'm not.
I'll get to that later.
Find out. I think find out.
I am the only whole of it once.
I forgot you guys are reading all the
threads, reading all the comments.
Monster.
Freak.
Well, I, Arjun, you seem like a very nice person, and it would be, I'd enjoy hanging out with you.
And so maybe we can make that work out.
I don't know.
You know, we never know.
I'm just trying to think if you as a wingman is a positive, or like, how would you help him?
What would be your method?
Well, first of all, I clean up real nice when I want to.
Okay, that's true.
I think, and I've had, you know, many, many, many gay men tell me that I'm their fantasy.
And I just made that up.
Yeah, that's your fantasy.
My fantasy is that I'm their fantasy.
Yes.
Isn't that how it works?
You know, I googled it, actually.
I wanted to know how famous you are or the impact you had in the queer community.
So I did like an AI deep research thing.
hoping that I'll find something funny
like oh, this fun thing that he did
is huge in the queer community
but it's all very sweet
so yeah
so there is nothing
you are known to be very consistent
and kind
why am I being so nice
I don't know
I know, don't worry
we can fix this with AI
later on and make it really mean
and snarky
well Arjun I think
I think I'd be a good wingman
for Arjun
I think, first of all, you can't, you have to look at me, you can't look away.
That's true.
And I think I would draw a crowd.
And that's, even if people don't know who I am, they think, oh, my God, what is that thing that just came in?
We got a couple minutes here.
I'm at a bar.
You're as wingman.
You guys are there.
We're at tooit.
Yep.
Toyet.
Yeah.
Tooit.
And I'm just, I'm just alone.
I'm drinking, drinking a.
What's your name?
My name is Matt.
In this scenario, your name is Matt?
No, my name is Chandler.
Chandles?
Yes.
Do you think that's an Indian name?
No.
Jesus Christ.
Give us a good Indian name, Arjun.
Common.
You can be mad.
There are Matthews in India.
Thank you.
Actually, we don't need you.
We're getting along just fine.
Yeah.
Oh, well, let's say, Arjun, let's do it a little improv right now.
You and I have our drinks in hand.
What do you drink in there, Arjun?
Yeah.
Beer.
Do it beer.
Okay.
We're going to get you an improv class before I come.
That was a 20-minute pause, and then you picked the most obvious thing.
Well, I have an Appletini.
I have an Appletini that I brought with me on the plane.
I was going to say, Tori doesn't have Appletini.
No, no, I brought my own.
I always bring my own.
So Arjun and I walk up and, hey, what's your name?
My name is Rishi.
Rishi, good to see you.
You seem like a mat to me, but we'll go with Rishi.
Rishi, this is Arjun.
He's my friend, and I'm Conan, O'Brien, but you probably knew that.
Oh, the sake.
What's going on?
Well, I'm just here alone, just recently got out of a relationship, and I'm, I feel like
I'm independently minded and not sad about being in that relationship, but I'm open and my
heart's ready for love.
Wow, incredible.
Well, guess what?
I've been married for like 23 years.
I hope I got that right.
Arjun, I think he's single right now.
Maybe you two have something to talk about.
Arjun, have you met my friend Rishi?
I'm not single, actually.
What?
Oh.
Yeah, I'm madded to a man, and he's very supportive.
Wait a minute, what's going on?
Why would you set up for this heartbreak, sir?
I'm sitting here alone.
Rishi, you're going through this kind of mental roller coaster.
I'm dying inside.
Ritchie, I'm wondering if you're up for a thruple.
Oh, plot twist.
Plot twist.
Wait, Arjan, I thought you were single.
No, he's very supportive.
Even when I wanted to do this, he was behind me, like, literally, like, behind me.
Oh, come on.
I practiced that bit, and I forgot that I said I was single.
For the listener, he just moved his chair, and there's a nice picture of Pedro Pascal back there.
Oh, yeah.
So Pedro Pascal is who you're married to in your mind, right?
Well, I have to now alert Pedro Pascal because this is very worrisome.
Wow.
Okay.
Okay, well, you just broke a big rule in improv, which is you said no.
Yes, and.
Too long.
Yes, and I'm not available for a relationship.
Do you want to stick with in this scenario that you're with Pedro Pascal, or do you want to now go with your single?
Yeah, I want to know how much Rishi wants me.
Okay.
Regardless of my situation.
Rishi, I want to apologize from my friend who seems borderline insane.
He's not with Pedro Pascal, and he just said that.
That's his sense of humor of it.
But boy, he's a lot of fun.
Why don't you two talk?
I'm just going to have a sip of my Appletini.
While you guys were going through all that, actually,
Pedro Pascal called me, and we've entered a relationship,
so I'm sorry to say this is going to work out.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Well, um...
You just based in both a fun time.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's you, too, Arjic.
I know.
I got to actually sign with you there.
Oh, I'll jump in here.
I'm Pedro Pascal.
Hey!
Oh!
Look at Pedro.
He's playing an Armenian woman in his next movie.
Yeah.
Maybe take a break between movies.
I'm married to Arjun and I'm dating Rishi.
Nice.
Hey.
Hey, Pedro, whatever you're doing, you keep doing it because you're having a great year.
Play in the field.
That's me.
It's Pedro Pascal.
Wow.
Yeah, I did it.
So how many relationships are you in right now?
Seven.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
Arjun, you've made a complete mockery of this very serious podcast.
where I try and build international bonds
and I blame you
but I do hope our paths cross one day
because I like you.
You seem like a very cool person
and I think we'd have a fun time.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
And so...
All of you.
Thank you.
We'll see you on down the road.
Possibly.
You never know.
It's a strange world, isn't it?
Is it?
Yes and Argent.
Yes and Argent.
Is it?
Is it?
It is.
Doing a scene with Argin and improv.
Oh, Arjun, welcome to my chocolate factory.
Is it?
Yes, Arjun.
My favorite improv thing to do is what you did with Sona, which is yes and you shut up.
I love that.
I invented that.
It's a power move.
All right, Arjun, you take care.
Nice talking to you.
Nice talking to all of you.
Bye.
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