Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Classic Colonizer

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Conan chats with Arjun from Kerala in southern India about looking for a partner, Kerala’s history as a spice hub, and what it would take to accept Conan as his wingman. Wanna get a chance to talk ...to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit team cocoa.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hi, Arjun. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Hi, Matt, Sona, Conan. Hi.
Starting point is 00:00:19 How are you, Arjun? It's nice to meet you. It is so nice to meet. All this is so ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Arjun, we are ridiculous. ridiculous people, and we thank you for taking the time to speak to us. Arjun, I have some questions for you.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Where are you in the world at this moment? Where in this vast spinning blue globe we call Earth, are you? I am in the southern part of India. Southern part of India. What is that called? South India. I love this guy. I love this guy.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Well, I guess I asked a really stupid question. I thought maybe there was a name of a town, but maybe it's in that part of Southern India where nothing is named that I've heard so much about. Yeah, we've... Is the region have a certain name that I could find on a map? You can. I'm calling from Bangal, but I am from this place called Kerala,
Starting point is 00:01:21 which is at the even more south of Bangalore. Okay, Kerala. And is that a rural area, or is it a big city? It's a state. so it has both all of it okay you know what
Starting point is 00:01:33 I never want to interrogate you again you are you should consider being a spy because I don't think people are going to get information
Starting point is 00:01:41 every time I ask you a question I know less about you I live in a place it's a place that's next to another place well tell me a little bit about yourself
Starting point is 00:01:51 Arjun what do you want us to know about you I what do I want you to know about me I am single.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I don't know why that's the first thing. You're single. You realize this is not a hookup website we're on right now. But I was told something different in the field. Okay, well, listen, I'm an Ares, and I like to play the guitar, and eat only starches. I do like Irish men, red hair, but Bill Burr. Oh, Bill Burr. Oh, Bill Burr.
Starting point is 00:02:24 You're looking for a Bill Burr. I know Bill Burr, and I could connect you guys. So I could do that. I could maybe connect you to Bill Burr. He has a life. I'm not a home vehicle. So what? I've got a wife.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Anyway. I would say anything about you, though. He was talking about Bill Burr. You offered yourself and he said you wanted Bill Burr. Those bonds are tenuous. So Arjun, yeah, tell me about yourself. Are you gay? How dare.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yes, I am. Are you looking? Are you seeking? a relationship right now? Always, because I keep falling for straight dudes, which is inconvenient for both of us.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Hey, I just watched your episode with Timothy Oliphant, and yeah, I get it. Yeah, yeah, oh, trust me. What's not to get? Yeah, he's the whole package. I apologize. I don't know how that translates to southern India. But,
Starting point is 00:03:25 so is that true? You always fall for straight guys? Yeah, most of the time. They're so irisistible, you know. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, they don't like you and that's so hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Do you think it's possible that on a subliminal psychological level, you might be doing that because you're scared of a commitment? Is it possible that you're doing that? How are you talking to my therapist?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Well, I mean, it just occurred to me that might be. Is that something that someone, A therapist has told you? Yeah, she thinks it's because I'm homophobic. Which doesn't make sense to me. I love this. This is sounding like the gay version of you.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Or just me. With self-hating. So you're gay, but you are homophobic and this causes you problems. I mean, yeah, a lot of problems, yes. Well, I want you to be happy. You seem like a really nice person.
Starting point is 00:04:27 and so maybe I'm, I want to help you in some way if I can. I'd appreciate that a lot. Yeah. How do you think I could assist you in your life? What are the things I could do for you, Arjun? I mean, you can come to India. You can come to Bangalore. You can come to Kerala.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I'll be in either of the places wherever you'll be. And we can go out. And how would I be in this area you're talking about Kerala that's in the south and sounds a little rural, would I be accepted there? How would people feel about me? Oh, we are very accepting. In fact, you know, back in the 1400s, I'm going to go way back, when...
Starting point is 00:05:10 I have no idea where this is going to go. Let's hear it. I'm all up for this. Back in the 1400s, I'm getting a bedtime story right now. Back in the 1400s, Kela was known as the Land. of spices, or what Kerales today, back then, was known as a land of spices. The Malabar coast was exporting a lot of spices, like black pepper and cardamom and cinnamon and all of that, and it was very valuable in Europe and in the Arab world and everywhere, even more valuable than
Starting point is 00:05:42 gold. So Europeans wanted, but the trade was controlled by Arabs and Ottomans, if I'm not wrong. But the Europeans wanted their own connection to Kerala. So this is a guy called Christopher Columbus set sail and landed in the Bahamas and thought that was Kerala. Columbus mistakenly thought he had arrived in India and India. So that's why he started calling
Starting point is 00:06:08 yeah. So we, after that the Portuguese came, the Dutch came, the French came and the British came. We loved all of them. We couldn't get them to leave for like 200 years. So we are very accepting. We are very accepting. We are very accepting Well, guess what? Arjun, I have news for you.
Starting point is 00:06:28 You will have a hard time getting me to leave. I've heard that before. I think you need to arrive in like an Irish-flagged boat. Like, you've been at sea for months and months. A Viking. I want a Viking boat that I arrive in. They're going to accept you because you remind them of the colonizers. Oh, there you go. Yeah. I'm there to colonize men. Never to an Irishman. Never to an Irish. Never.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, I don't think the Irish colonized much of anything. No, I know. You couldn't get us out of our house. We were innocent of all colonized. because we just wanted to hang out in the house and non-a-tator. Yeah, we've been colonizing Ireland, actually. Like, most of my cousins are in Ireland randomly. Yeah. So, yeah, but they're used to it.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Irish are used to being colonized. Yes, so that's fine. Yes, we're easy, you know, we're easy going. If you know anything about us, we're very easygoing. He said lying through his teeth. Arjun, what do you do for a living? What's your profession? How do you make a living?
Starting point is 00:07:23 What's your the story? Take us back to the 1400s. Back in the 1400s, right after Vasco da Gama landed in the, yeah. So I am a writer, but I think I'm a marketer. I'm in marketing. Yeah. But what kind of stuff do you write? What do you write?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Not the things that I should be writing, but I write for capitalism mainly because I'm in marketing. But I do want to write like a screenplay or like a book. Oh. Shout out to Sona. Yeah. So, yeah, one day. That's right. She's the author in the room.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah. Which is really cool. She's the, yeah, author in the room. And. And Sona has another book coming out. I just finished it. Yeah. She just finished reading it.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Oh, okay. Yeah. The World's Worst Mom. Yeah, World's Worst Mom. Wonderful. Wow. You were either excited or very frightened at the prospect. I am.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That came across the fear. I am excited. Because I couldn't read the first one yet. I couldn't get it anywhere here. You should talk to your publisher. There's a whole market in southern India, not being specific as to where, but there's a whole. Well, that's why it's not there because they couldn't figure out where to send it. If you go, I'll send it with you.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So Arjun, let's say I were to come and visit you. What kinds of things would we do? We'd go out, that I insist upon. That would be fun. And you think I'd mix well. People would be happy to see me, maybe. Yeah. They couldn't look away from you, even if they tried. But it would be fun. You're like the sun.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. They couldn't look away from you even if they tried. You're, when the arc opens and Raiders in the last arc, people's faces will melt off. She's beautiful. Yeah, we could go to Doit. You remember Doit? You may not remember Doit. There's a picture of you outside the restroom in Toad. Oh, I've heard about this. This was on another coach. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I was thrilled to hear. I was speaking to another fan who said there's a picture of me outside the restroom, and I've never been more excited. Yeah, so that was supposed to be my story when I was going to talk to you. He's told my story. He doesn't know me. I don't know him, but I know his name, Nikhil. And he's told my story.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So the only way for me to get back at him is for us to go to Toyd together. he can be invited Isn't it better if he's not invited No, he has to be invited But he has to be seated Like six feet away from us I think you guys should put up a poster of the two of you Right next to the other one
Starting point is 00:10:04 You know When the other fan hears That I came all the way to India And that he told me about the picture Outside the bathroom in Bangalore But I went with Arjun instead of him And literally we passed his apartment That would crush him.
Starting point is 00:10:23 That's brutal. That would be... Why do we want to crush this? You have such an aggression towards this person you've never met before. It just feels so... Because he took his idea.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I see. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're right. You're right. It's warranted. You're right. And I'm just happy to have aggression
Starting point is 00:10:39 towards anyone, so I jumped on board right away. It makes you a classic colonizer. Eduardo's very good. Eduardo's right. I'm a classic colonizer. You're mad at someone? Me too.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Just stoking wars You both came by it honestly though So what if you both met And maybe there's like a You guys could kind of like argue For who gets to keep it or something like that Keep what? The poster.
Starting point is 00:11:13 No, the poster has to stay outside the bathroom. You're going to fight for the poster? I want that thing that's been hanging outside the men's room. No, I want it. What world are you in? I've been their world. Apparently, it's there in all the Toit in India. Like, Toid has different, it started in Bangal, but I think it's in other cities, and they all have a compulsor according to Reddit.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So that's a thing. Well, here's what I want to do. You should get money out of it. Please, Arjun, I'm not into monetizing things. It's not my thing. I colonize, but I don't monetize. And I really need to moisturize. Arjun, here's what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I want, because what I'd like to do, is hit the town with you. And maybe, do you think that I would be a good wingman for your romantic pursuits? Or do you think I'd be a bad wingman? Would I help your game or hurt your game? I think you'll help my game. If you're in Bangalore, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Because it's a city and there are more people. And, but I don't know, there are no queer, public queer spaces. Is that true? There are. There are. but it's just that maybe I don't go there but yeah I'm not invited but yeah if you are here
Starting point is 00:12:25 we will go to a queer space there used to be a lot of pubs before the pandemic there used to be a lot of bars and pubs that were queer friendly spaces but then they closed down unfortunately due to the pandemic but then now I'm sure there are there are drag nights at some places we can go and oh yeah and then there are
Starting point is 00:12:45 improv improv is becoming a thing in Bangladesh never used to be a thing it started becoming a thing recently and I went to a workshop who's so cringe, I loved it so I feel like it can take you back to your olden days. Yes, I would love that.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I would love to, I mean, I would like the idea of going to any place that you want to go and it would be fun. It would be fun to, I have a serious question which is, because I'm not aware, is there acceptance of the queer community? community in India?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Is there a growing acceptance? Do you feel comfortable? Yeah, I mean, I mean, I live in a bubble. I live in a city, so it's pretty, things seem very okay to me. Yeah. But when you go to other places, things may be a little different. But again, I'm, you know, in a bubble. My family, my friends are all pretty cool with things.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That's good. So, yeah, they're fine. But otherwise, yeah, it's not a, huge deal, I'd assume, especially for your audience in India. Because even if you shoot something that is extremely queer and put it out there,
Starting point is 00:13:58 it'll be your fans in India who'll be seeing it. Yeah. And your fans are inherently nice people. Oh, that's nice to know. See, what do they find out? I'm not. I'll get to that later. Find out. I think find out. I am the only whole of it once.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I forgot you guys are reading all the threads, reading all the comments. Monster. Freak. Well, I, Arjun, you seem like a very nice person, and it would be, I'd enjoy hanging out with you. And so maybe we can make that work out. I don't know. You know, we never know.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I'm just trying to think if you as a wingman is a positive, or like, how would you help him? What would be your method? Well, first of all, I clean up real nice when I want to. Okay, that's true. I think, and I've had, you know, many, many, many gay men tell me that I'm their fantasy. And I just made that up. Yeah, that's your fantasy. My fantasy is that I'm their fantasy.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yes. Isn't that how it works? You know, I googled it, actually. I wanted to know how famous you are or the impact you had in the queer community. So I did like an AI deep research thing. hoping that I'll find something funny like oh, this fun thing that he did is huge in the queer community
Starting point is 00:15:19 but it's all very sweet so yeah so there is nothing you are known to be very consistent and kind why am I being so nice I don't know I know, don't worry
Starting point is 00:15:34 we can fix this with AI later on and make it really mean and snarky well Arjun I think I think I'd be a good wingman for Arjun I think, first of all, you can't, you have to look at me, you can't look away. That's true.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And I think I would draw a crowd. And that's, even if people don't know who I am, they think, oh, my God, what is that thing that just came in? We got a couple minutes here. I'm at a bar. You're as wingman. You guys are there. We're at tooit. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Toyet. Yeah. Tooit. And I'm just, I'm just alone. I'm drinking, drinking a. What's your name? My name is Matt. In this scenario, your name is Matt?
Starting point is 00:16:11 No, my name is Chandler. Chandles? Yes. Do you think that's an Indian name? No. Jesus Christ. Give us a good Indian name, Arjun. Common.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You can be mad. There are Matthews in India. Thank you. Actually, we don't need you. We're getting along just fine. Yeah. Oh, well, let's say, Arjun, let's do it a little improv right now. You and I have our drinks in hand.
Starting point is 00:16:35 What do you drink in there, Arjun? Yeah. Beer. Do it beer. Okay. We're going to get you an improv class before I come. That was a 20-minute pause, and then you picked the most obvious thing. Well, I have an Appletini.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I have an Appletini that I brought with me on the plane. I was going to say, Tori doesn't have Appletini. No, no, I brought my own. I always bring my own. So Arjun and I walk up and, hey, what's your name? My name is Rishi. Rishi, good to see you. You seem like a mat to me, but we'll go with Rishi.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Rishi, this is Arjun. He's my friend, and I'm Conan, O'Brien, but you probably knew that. Oh, the sake. What's going on? Well, I'm just here alone, just recently got out of a relationship, and I'm, I feel like I'm independently minded and not sad about being in that relationship, but I'm open and my heart's ready for love. Wow, incredible.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, guess what? I've been married for like 23 years. I hope I got that right. Arjun, I think he's single right now. Maybe you two have something to talk about. Arjun, have you met my friend Rishi? I'm not single, actually. What?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Oh. Yeah, I'm madded to a man, and he's very supportive. Wait a minute, what's going on? Why would you set up for this heartbreak, sir? I'm sitting here alone. Rishi, you're going through this kind of mental roller coaster. I'm dying inside. Ritchie, I'm wondering if you're up for a thruple.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Oh, plot twist. Plot twist. Wait, Arjan, I thought you were single. No, he's very supportive. Even when I wanted to do this, he was behind me, like, literally, like, behind me. Oh, come on. I practiced that bit, and I forgot that I said I was single. For the listener, he just moved his chair, and there's a nice picture of Pedro Pascal back there.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Oh, yeah. So Pedro Pascal is who you're married to in your mind, right? Well, I have to now alert Pedro Pascal because this is very worrisome. Wow. Okay. Okay, well, you just broke a big rule in improv, which is you said no. Yes, and. Too long.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yes, and I'm not available for a relationship. Do you want to stick with in this scenario that you're with Pedro Pascal, or do you want to now go with your single? Yeah, I want to know how much Rishi wants me. Okay. Regardless of my situation. Rishi, I want to apologize from my friend who seems borderline insane. He's not with Pedro Pascal, and he just said that. That's his sense of humor of it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But boy, he's a lot of fun. Why don't you two talk? I'm just going to have a sip of my Appletini. While you guys were going through all that, actually, Pedro Pascal called me, and we've entered a relationship, so I'm sorry to say this is going to work out. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Well, um... You just based in both a fun time. Yeah. Well, I think that's you, too, Arjic. I know. I got to actually sign with you there. Oh, I'll jump in here. I'm Pedro Pascal.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Hey! Oh! Look at Pedro. He's playing an Armenian woman in his next movie. Yeah. Maybe take a break between movies. I'm married to Arjun and I'm dating Rishi. Nice.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Hey. Hey, Pedro, whatever you're doing, you keep doing it because you're having a great year. Play in the field. That's me. It's Pedro Pascal. Wow. Yeah, I did it. So how many relationships are you in right now?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Seven. Wow. Okay. All right. Arjun, you've made a complete mockery of this very serious podcast. where I try and build international bonds and I blame you but I do hope our paths cross one day
Starting point is 00:20:17 because I like you. You seem like a very cool person and I think we'd have a fun time. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. And so... All of you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:28 We'll see you on down the road. Possibly. You never know. It's a strange world, isn't it? Is it? Yes and Argent. Yes and Argent. Is it?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Is it? It is. Doing a scene with Argin and improv. Oh, Arjun, welcome to my chocolate factory. Is it? Yes, Arjun. My favorite improv thing to do is what you did with Sona, which is yes and you shut up. I love that.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I invented that. It's a power move. All right, Arjun, you take care. Nice talking to you. Nice talking to all of you. Bye. Conan O'Brien needs a fan. with Conan O'Brien, Sonam of Sessian, and Matt Gourley.
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