Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Dave Grohl

Episode Date: February 15, 2021

Musician Dave Grohl feels somewhat conflicted about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Dave sits down with Conan to talk about the merits of fried chicken and champagne, jamming with Paul McCartney, the pre-show ritual, and Foo Fighters’ new studio album Medicine at Midnight. Plus, Sona shares a big announcement with the team. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: [phone].For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.

Hi, my name's Dave Grohl, and I feel somewhat conflicted about being Conan O'Brien's friend. I can tell that we are gonna be friends. Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. We have a lovely show. I'm in a good mood. I wouldn't say I'm hitting on all cylinders. If I'm a six-cylinder engine, I think four are working. But what I'm saying is, for me, that's pretty good. I think you're six all the time. Sorry.

Sona, before we get into the show, I understand you have a bit of news that you'd like to share with us. About my dad's birthday? Oh, is it your dad's birthday? Yeah, today's my dad's birthday. That's great. I love your dad. Your dad is Gil. I'm nervous. No, don't be nervous. I love your dad, and I do a great impression of your dad. Yes.

Your dad has a big mustache, and my impression of your dad is I just put my finger under my nose. Yeah. That is it. That's all I do. I take my finger, and I put it under my nose, and I say, I'm Gil. I'm Gil Movsesian. How are you? And there's no attempt to match his voice. It's just a finger under my nose. It's childish and it's silly, but I do wish him a happy birthday. Oh, that's nice. You know, and it's actually, I can't believe I'm going to tell you this right now, but it is one of two of his birthdays, because my dad did grow up in a village that was very poor. And so, when they were born, the guy who did the birthday...

Wait, now, which country was he living in at the time? He was in a village in Turkey, in a village called Sivas or Sipastias, both. The village has two... I'm sorry, I had to cut you off, but I need to get the facts straight. It has two names. The village had two names, Sivas or Sipastias. And he has two birthdays? He has two, so he was born in November, but the birth certificate guy doesn't come by all the time, and then he put the birthday down for the day he came to the village, which was in February.

So, we lived our whole lives, and I think when my brother and I were in our 20s, my dad's like, you know, this isn't my real birthday. We're like, what? He's like, I was born in November, and we're like, what? Wait a minute. How does that even work? Wait a minute, does he know what date he was born in November? No.

What? No one recorded that? Because the birth certificate guy didn't come until February. No, no, no. He was there February 5th, and he's like, his birthday's today, but he was like a four-month-old baby. Right, but the birth certificate guy, there's one guy, and he gets around. What's his mode of transportation? Do we know? I mean, come on.

What? I don't know. That's a weird question, and I feel like you want me to set you up for, like, the donkey. Like, I don't know what it was. That's insensitive. Why wouldn't do that? That's terrible. I'm sure...

No, I would not. He's not writing some beast, and that's ridiculous. I'm sure he was in a Hyundai, you know? I don't know. It doesn't matter to me what he was on. I think you're the one... You are so afraid that I'll say something insensitive about your culture that you're the one creating all these insensitive stereotypes.

Oh, okay. And now I'm picturing the birth certificate guy who's got, you know, a bunch of birth certificates in his burlap sack on a donkey because of you. That's you that did that. So shame on you. My aunt, hold on, this one's an even better story. Well, it's not a better story because it's that my aunt had a brother who passed away. So then they took his old birth certificate and just erased his information and put her

information when she was born, but they didn't change the gender. So she was a boy on her birth certificate. What? And then she came to this country and they were like, you're... I think because it's mandatory military service at 18 in Turkey. And so they were like, you have to serve in the military. And she's like, I'm a woman. And they're like, your birth certificate says you're a guy.

And she's like, that's a mistake. I'm a woman. Wait a minute. What year are we talking about here? You're not talking about... You're not talking about... This didn't happen in the 19th century, right? This happened in the modern era.

Yes? Is that right? So my aunt is a much older woman. She's in her 80s. You mean he's in her 80s? Yeah. Let's get the pronouns straight here. They all came to this world.

They made a much better life for themselves in this country. First of all, we've all had... Amazing people. Yes, it's amazing people. And you know that. I've been to Armenia with you. I think the Armenian people are beautiful, resilient people. And I have great respect for their culture.

You shouldn't be nervous. Those things are all true. And then you come with these stories about a man on a donkey with a burlap sack and there's a bunch of passports. Come on. You're the one that said that. I didn't say that. You say that I floated to this country in a basket

because my dad survived a goat attack. You did that. That's a joke I made 10 years ago that just happened to find its way into a major cover story on the Enrolling Stone magazine. God knows. These are the things that happen when you're at my level and things are happening fast and furious.

Occasionally, you say that you're... And look, we're living in an era of alternate truths, all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories. So maybe my idea of how you came to this country is just as legitimate as your idea. Who's to say what's the real idea? Reality, actually. Who's to say what that is, man?

Hey, it's 420. Let's blaze up. I know. What are you talking about? Maybe we're in the cages and the animals are looking at us, dude. So my point is that's an incredible story. I identify with your dad. I feel for him.

I was listed. My gender was... My passport was indeterminate because of... Still forming. Well, to be fair, when I got my passport, which is later in life, it... I was slow. I was a slow bloomer.

Everything worked out, but for the first 18, 19 years of my life, it was still forming. It? What? It was still forming. Still forming. The prehensile...

The primitive penis that I was born with. Oh, God. Oh. But you know what? Thank God for those surgeries. Hey, and a shout out to Dr. Boutman. We did, you know, that was nine surgeries, but we figured it out.

Just foolishness, just random foolishness. I'm just trying to take the attention off of, I can't believe your dad has two birthdays, but you know what? He just... And came from a village that has two names. And probably no one can agree on what names. One is the Armenian name,

and the other one, if you look up Sivas, that's what you'll see from, like, an English-speaking map. But the only question that I have for you, you say, like, well, we don't know when my dad was born because the passport man wasn't there. You'd think someone would have written down on something, hey, Gil was born today.

And then the passport people may get it wrong, but they can still know, yeah, it was November 8th. Remember? That was the day Gil was born. Well, my dad was one of six. I can't relate to that. At one point they're just like, ah, it's another one. Yeah.

Like, whatever. There's another one here. And then they, you know... Trust me, I know that's feeling. I was meeting siblings in the bathroom in eighth grade that I hadn't met before. It's like, if you serve on an aircraft carrier in the Gulf, you sometimes don't meet other...

You never meet the other person on the ship. And that's what it was like in my family. My sister, Jane, we met when she was 14. And I was 18. And she's lovely. I love Jane. I just didn't... We're rattling around.

There's a lot going on. Potatoes are flying. I didn't know. A quick handshake, a hello. She seemed lovely. Haven't seen her since. There was a lot of confusion. There was a lot going on.

This reminds me of my favorite story about my mom. There was a lot of chaos growing up, just because, you know, my mom was working. My dad's working. There's a bunch of kids. And my mother is very proud person. And I remembered her once telling me, I'm going to tell you something.

I worked very hard to teach each one of you everything you need to know in life. I taught both your sisters. I taught them how to sew, how to cook, how to clean, how to do all the things they'll need to know. And I said to her, Mom, I honestly don't remember you teaching them any of that. And she went, because there wasn't time.

And I'm like, well, which is it? She went on this whole thing. I worked so hard. I taught them everything. I don't think it, there wasn't time. That is the perfect Irish Conan O'Brien story because it mixes grandiosity with defensiveness. Mom, I love you.

You know that. But you taught us nothing. Did you, um, did you introduce Matt? Oh, it's okay. They get it by now. Yeah. I'm having a slow day anyway. You know what?

I actually think I took a Tylenol today, but I think I took a Tylenol PM. So I think I'm, I think I'm asleep. You didn't really pipe up much. And I noticed in the interview, I didn't hear you at all. So I think, and at one point I looked over because we're on zoom,

you were wearing a Dickensian nightcap. Do you know, because you've mentioned that twice podcast, my wife got me one for Christmas. Great. I love that. Put it on. It's, it's packed away with the Christmas stuff, but it's red plaid, you know.

Have you ever in the night heard a sound and you're wearing your nightcap and you light a small candle, a nub of a candle, and it's got a little holder and you go down and you, and you see a little mouse in the corner of the kitchen and you guys share a wink. Has that ever happened? I'm wearing just a nightgown

and my knees start knocking. All right. Well, I'm very excited today. My guest is one of the most accomplished voices in rock. He is the lead singer and guitarist for the 11 time Grammy award-winning band Foo Fighters. Their 10th studio album, Medicine at Midnight is now available.

And it's fantastic. I'm honored to talk to this gentleman today. I'm stunned by what this guy has accomplished in his career. Dave Grohl, welcome. Okay, Dave, what's the conflict? I think we could be great friends. I had to see no barrier.

Actually, there is no conflict because we do have a mutual friend in our tour manager, Gus Brandt. I knew this would come up. Who was once your tour manager as well. Yes. 10 years ago, I had a tour manager, Gus Brandt, and Gus's claimant for the 11th studio album

Brandt and Gus's claim to fame. He made it very clear early on was that he was also a Foo Fighters tour manager. He would throw that at me constantly. So we had these big shows in big venues, not by your standards, Dave, but by my standards, these were massive venues, big crowds, big finales, encores, hard rock ending,

and crowds going crazy. And every night I would go up to Gus, and this was our running joke, and say, eh, Grohl can Grohl top that? You think Grohl can top that? And every night Brandt would be like, oh yeah, no, no, they get that every night, and more so.

And I'd be like, yeah, well, we'll see about tomorrow night. We'll see tomorrow night. And then we'd have a, you know, if we had a particularly big show, I'd be like, Grohl, does Grohl do that? And he'd go like, yeah, yeah, they do that every single night, and it's much bigger and better than what you're doing.

I can't imagine that's true. That's not true. Come on, Carl. Oh, no, it was fun. It was really, it was a fun running joke that to this day, if I see him, he knows that within 10 minutes, because we still see each other,

I will bring up how I am your nemesis. I gave you a run for your money, and I think you were sweating me the whole time we were out on the road. Always watching, always watching. Always watching. Somewhere Grohl is sweating, because O'Brien's out there playing his three-chord rock.

Now was this, hold on, was this your first tour? Was this the first time you ever toured? It was the first, yeah, it was the first time, and I remembered Gus one time. I was kidding, and Gus thought I was serious, but I told Gus that I wanted, I said, I need drugs and women. You've got to bring them to me.

And Gus was like, I don't do that. I don't do drugs or women. I don't get drugs or women for people that I manage. Okay, so you're lucky that he didn't bring you either of those things, because whatever you request from Gus, he not only gets it for you, he'll bring a map. Here's an example.

There was once when we were in Australia, this is 10 years ago, and we were on our way to the gig, and we passed a Kentucky fried chicken, right? I hadn't had a bucket of KFC since I was like nine at soccer practice. It'd be so long. I love fried chicken, so I look at him, and I say, hey, Gus, is there any way that we could

get a bucket of chicken for after the show? He's like, yeah, sure, what do you want? You want original recipes? I'm like, just get original recipes. So after the show, we rock the place for two and a half hours, and I'm walking on stage. I got a towel around my neck, and I could smell that stuff from 100 yards away.

Like, I could smell it coming down the hall. I'm like, ooh, KFC, this is amazing. And I walk in, I plop down in a chair. I'm in my sweaty clothes, and there's the bucket. I rip open the bucket, and I mean, I just sweat like five pounds out on stage for two and a half hours. So I just want salt.

So I'm picking up pieces of chicken, and I'm eating it like a raccoon in a dumpster. I'm just like, wow. And there's nothing to drink. And I'm like, ooh. And I look, and to my left was a bottle of champagne in a bucket of ice. And so I just pop the champagne and start drinking it.

And then I take a bite of chicken. And then I have some champagne. And then I take the bite. And I look at everyone like, you guys, you have to try this. This is amazing. So then within two minutes, everyone's got a piece of chicken and a glass of champagne.

And it became our thing. I could go into a long description of like the juxtaposition and mouthfeel of what I was in course. Of course. It's fantastic. I can imagine that tang, that almost tart tang of a really good champagne. Yes.

It was amazing. So we started doing it every night. And within three weeks, I was like trying to go to sleep in my hotel. My heart's just like, and then I thought, you know, we should cool it with it. But that's the best thing when we would go on

like these fancy planes, private planes to go to a show. They would always ask like, catering would like to know what you'd like for lunch. And we're like, yeah, we need some KFC and champagne. It was great. Does it have to be a good champagne or can be a kind of a low rent champagne?

I mean, you know, we usually go with... But actually, I'll be, listen to this, there was once on tour when we were in Paris and we had a day off. So I ride motorcycles. Me and a couple of people rented motorcycles. We decided to go to the champagne region

just outside of Paris. And somewhat the guy at the Harley dealership knew the people at the Moet Chandon Estate. He's like, oh, I'll get you a tour. So we ride up there like zipping through traffic and we go. We get there, we get this amazing tour of the Moet Chandon Estate. And like Winston Churchill stayed in this room

and here's the caves and like, these bottles are 200 years old, bottles from World War II and stuff. And then the end of the tour, we wind up in this garden for a tasting. And there's this guy at a tuxedo, white gloves. And it's like me and our keyboard player, you know, it's like, they're not entertaining royalty.

We're just like, we just got off of Harley-Davidson. So the guy like pops a bottle of the, of rosé champagne and he says, he goes, this is good with salmon and fish. And you know, and so we take it, we're just like, we drink it. Then he goes like pours another one and right. And he goes, he opens another bottle

and he goes, this is good with his pasta and scallops and things. And I said, excuse me, you know what's really good with champagne? And he said what? And I was like, fried chicken, man. He was like. I kill you.

I kill you, Dave Crawl. You insult me. That is fantastic. Gus Brant. I absolutely love that. Brings the buckets. Gus Brant and Gus Brant, by the way, one of the biggest fights I've had in my show business career,

practically a screaming match, was we're playing some really big venue. And it's like, and they're playing up my music that I come out to. I'm ready to go on and we're chatting backstage. And he's a comic book fan and he mentioned something about the Hulk. And he goes, yeah, you know, Dave Banner becomes the Hulk.

And I'm literally headed out on stage and I turn around and I said, Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk. And he was like, and he's like, no, no, no. He said, O'Brien, I know you think you're smart, but it's Dave Banner. And I was like, no, no, no. And they're saying Conan, you gotta go. They've like, they're introducing you.

And I'm like, no, fuck you. It's Bruce Banner. And we start screaming at each other. I am very delighted to speak to you. This is one of my most memorable experiences and I've had many in almost 30 years of doing television. You came on the show. You were going to play, I think one, maybe two songs.

You played an entire long set for our live audience that no one ever saw. It was just for them. And I thought this is what differentiates, and I'll put you in their category. This is what differentiates a springsteen from other people. This is what differentiates the greats. They want that pure copper to copper connection

with an audience. And I could see, it didn't matter to you if it was going out on television or not, you wanted to make those people see the best fucking thing they've ever seen in a studio audience. And they did. And it was a beautiful thing to see. I mean, we actually like doing this.

We do. And it doesn't really matter if people are watching. We still enjoy it. We rehearsed at our own studio. And most rehearsals are just spent everyone just like talking shit and making each other laugh the whole thing. It's like, oh, wait, we need to play Everlong. And then we play Everlong, get that over with.

And then we talk for like 15, 20 minutes. Oh, wait, we need to play Bestie. Then we play Bestie and things like that. But we really do. I mean, there are times when I'm worried that we're too into it. You know, we're like, we're three hours in to a stadium show. I'm watching these people that have been standing there, crushed against the barrier, just waiting for Everlong.

I'm like, OK, we'll get there. But I don't want to walk. Like I don't get warmed up until like two hours into the show. So there are times where I walk off the stage. I'm like, damn, man, I want to do that again. We love doing what we do. You know, I've been doing. I started touring when I was 18 years old.

So I've been touring for 34 years. So when everything shut down last March, I kind of freaked out. I mean, right out of the gate, I'm like, oh my God, I have to learn how to make lasagna. But one of the first things I see. Dave Krolls, three hour lasagna. Three and a half month lasagna. So I don't necessarily need some sort of like tangible face

to face audience, like a connection like that. I just need to know that every day I'm waking up and making someone feel happiness or joy. And my kids are like, Daddy, will you call your booking agent and have him get you on the road? Why are your children very old men? Yeah, maybe that's not what they sound like. You're like, Daddy, get me on the road.

Father, you will go on the road. I mean, I have people coming up to me. Strangers will come up and they'll say, hey, Dave, when are we going to have concerts again? Like I'm the CEO of Live Nation. I'm just like, I'm not well. As soon as they send me the ticket, I'll get on the plane and come play.

But nobody really has that answer. But I wrote this article for The Atlantic last year, probably in April. It was called The Return of Live Music. And it was not so much just about like the logistics of when it's going to happen or how it's going to happen, but more why it will happen. Because as human beings,

we need to experience that communal musical connection so that we remind ourselves that we're not alone. And so when we go out and play these shows for big audiences, and I'll play a song like My Hero, everyone's singing along to My Hero. But when they all come together in that chorus, that's something that doesn't just happen in life. And it's incredibly powerful.

It's really moving. And ultimately, it's reassuring because you realize like, I'm not alone. I'm a hopeful person. I would consider myself an optimist. So even in the most difficult times, I don't let the light at the end of the tunnel go out. I cannot imagine never getting on a stage again.

I just can't imagine it. For me personally, I've always looked at you as someone who what appeared to most of us is that you were a drummer who then magically revealed all these other skills. But that is not the case. You were always this person. Even as a young kid, you were someone who was making, you know, tape loops and different songs

and playing different instruments on cassettes. This was part of you all along. It didn't look that way to the rest of us. We just knew you as the iconic drummer from one of the most iconic bands of all time. Well, you know, it's funny. The way I play and the way I write, I look at the strings on a guitar as pieces of a drum set.

So I look at the low E string almost as a kick drum. And then I look at the A and the D string as like a snare. And then the high strings, I'll like make chords. First of all, I can't read music and I don't really know what I'm doing and I don't know the names of the chords I'm playing and stuff like that. But I do know that a song ever long is a good example.

That song, the riff that... That's basically a kick snare pattern. It's almost like a paradiddle, right? The way it's drum. And then in the chorus, when everything starts ringing out, I let all the high strings sort of ring or chime and those become my cymbals. So it's like, you can build the dynamic of a song

with a guitar the same way you would with a drum set. But I started playing guitar for... I fell into drumming because I was in a punk rock band and the drummer wasn't good. And so I basically said like, I have an idea. What if you play bass and I'll play the drums? Because I had already figured it out in my head.

I just didn't have a drum set. And then once I started doing that, I just stuck with the drums until the Foo Fighters. Well, it's so interesting because the whole time that you're in Nirvana, you possess these other abilities, but you kind of kept it to yourself. Is that true?

Yeah. I mean, you know the famous drummer joke. What was the last thing the drummer said before he got kicked out of the band? Hey, guys, I got a song I think we should play. Like, that's just not... You know, and listen, I mean, I got to be Kurt Cobain's drummer, you know?

And so when Kurt comes in with Kurt songs, you don't bring out any of the Dave demos, you know? It's like, you're like, I think we're good. I think we've got this, you know? Teen Spirit's pretty cool. I'm going to forget about that thing I wrote in my basement yesterday. You know, so as a drummer,

what an awesome band to be a drummer for. Yeah. Nirvana was such an amazing band to be a drummer because it was basically like, I looked at it like I get to be in AC DC and a disco drummer all at the same time and just pound the fuck out of my drums as hard as I can. And I was inspired by the band, inspired by the music,

and it was awesome. It was so cool. And then I would go back to my home and I had like an eight track studio. And I would just like record stuff for fun, you know? It really was just an experiment for myself. Out of Seattle of all places. My wife is, I married into Seattle.

My wife's from Seattle. And, but out of Seattle of all places comes completely unexpectedly the way no one expected the big British band to be from Liverpool. That was the last place in the world that anyone thought. No one thought a Northern band was going to come into London and take gas and take over the world. But in that way, I think you guys,

you were the exact right band at the exact right time. That very rarely happens. Almost more than anything musical, those little revolutions happen, they start in an emotional place, right? So of course we loved like turning the shit up and like banging the fuck out of the drums and smashing the guitars and stuff.

And whoopie, it's fun. And people stage diving and stuff like that. But there was some, for whatever reason at the time, people needed to feel that, that generation needed to feel that. I mean, it's not unlike what happened when Billie Eilish became hugely popular. You know, that was like, of course she's an amazing singer

and she makes brilliant songs. But there's a connection to the audience that has, it has to do with identity, right? So I have three daughters and my daughters love Billie Eilish. I took them to a Billie Eilish show at the Wiltern in Los Angeles before Billie really blew up huge. And when I got there, I'm looking around

and honestly, before any music was played, I'm like, whoa, this looks like a Nirvana show in 1991. It's like, these are the same type of people. It's different times, different instruments, whatever. But I'm looking around and I'm like, that's how these revolutions start. You know, they don't start with like the kick and the snare. They start with that emotional connection

to the identity of the artist and that resonates and then it becomes like this revolution. But yeah, I mean, at the time, you have to remember too, like, did we think about it this much then? Absolutely fucking, literally not. We were kids, you know, we're 21, 22 years old, looking back on it now and being a father and watching my kids go through these revolutions

with like Billie Eilish and stuff like that. It makes sense to me. It does. Like now it does make sense because also you have to remember like, what was the top 10 at the time? I mean, it was Wilson fucking Phillips. You know what I mean?

Like that was music. And then so we were, I mean, we didn't expect we were gonna like edge in on the top five. We just thought like, all right, let's go break stuff for a while. And then I think people needed that. Yes, that was the correction that needed to happen. I famously, you guys knocked Michael Jackson off the top and that was just, wait a minute, who are these guys?

I remember it as sort of a guitar nerd looking at Kurt's guitar and thinking, what the fuck is that? Like, you know what I mean? And I think in the same way, I mean, in the same way that bands like The Clash or The Sex Pistols, I mean, you can listen to that. I don't read a note of music either,

but I know what moves me and I can still listen to, you know, Never Mind the Bollocks, I can still listen to God Save the Queen and a snob would say, as they did in 1976, 77, these guys can't play and you'd think, oh, no, no, no, they're playing exactly what they need to play and they're playing it with an intensity and an emotion that defies anything else that yes is doing, you know,

or whatever, or air supply or whatever you want to come up. Yeah, absolutely. So when I was a kid, like I had kiss posters, I had rush records and I loved The Beatles and stuff like that, but I had never seen a rock concert and we used to go, my family, I grew up outside of D.C. in Virginia. We would take these family trips and my mom's Ford Fiesta,

we would drive up to Youngstown, Ohio and visit our grandparents there and then we would drive from there up to Chicago because my mother's best friend lived in Evanston. So this one year, we would go over here, this one year we go up and my aunt Sherry, she's like Tracy, cousin Tracy, Tracy, they're here, Tracy's maybe like a year older than me

or something, two years older than me. And I could hear her coming down the stairs like and I look up and she's a punk rocker, right? I think I was 13 years old. I had these like engineer boots and like bondage pants and it was like chain swinging and coming down the steps and I'm just like, I'd only seen that on like chips or Quincy and this is my country, Tracy.

And I'm just like, oh my God, she's like shaved her head and I mean, I get the chills still thinking about it. I was like, Amazon guy, hold on. That's your cousin. Mad at you that you mentioned her. Okay, can you just drop it in the gate? See, we're all dealing with Amazon right now. I love this.

Sorry guys, she's the weird one. Now, wait a minute, what is it? That was an, we're going to use this, that was Amazon? No, FedEx. FedEx. Oh. Okay, anyway. So gush, gush, gush down the stairs.

I see her. I'm like, and of course it's Tracy. She's my cousin. I love her. She's great. It's like, oh, hey, how are you? I mean, she didn't like spit in my face and punch me or anything. It was like, hi.

That night she was going to see this punk rock band called Naked Ray Gun. They were playing at a bar across the street from Wrigley Field. This place is called the Cubby Bear. And I mean, it's like a Chicago corner bar. And I had already started playing guitar at this point. And I think my aunt, Sherry, was like, Tracy, will you please take David to the punk rock show? I mean, I looked like, what's his face from 16 candles, Michael, what is the night?

But I was such a nerd. Anthony Michael Hall. Yes. That was me. It was like, this is a punk rock song. I don't see it. I was such. Let me get my respirator.

Such a dork. So she's like, oh God, okay. We go to this corner bar and like, I'm terrified. We take the L train downtown, whatever. I'm so scared because I've only seen this on Quincy and Chips. And on those shows, the punk rockers are the bad guys, right? And we're the guys that like burn down houses and start rides and stuff. There's a famous episode of Quincy.

And if you don't know what Quincy is, go look it up on YouTube, but he's a corner and it was a, he was out to solve crimes. And there's a famous episode where the bad guys are this, what are they? They're like a, they're a band of slam dancers. Okay. I can't remember his chips or quiz. There's a band called pain. I remember this song.

I think it's Quincy. I need pain. In my brain. The crazy thing, just so you know, the crazy thing, our guitar player, Pat Smir. Yeah. Yeah. Is in those episodes. No, he's not.

Yes, he is. He was a punk rock extra. No, he's not. There was a, there was a lady that would go round up. Pat Smir also was, was with you in Nirvana. And he's from the legendary punk rock band, the germs. Anyway, we got off on a side thing, but please look that up because that's how what people thought about punk music in 1977.

Anyway, continue. So we walk into this club and it's like mohawks and spikes, leather and denim. And I'm just like, oh my God, this is awesome. I'm just like, this is the most amazing. And then this band goes on and you know, I'd only seen rock concert stuff like on television. Right. There's like pyrotechnics and lasers and dragons and shit. And like that to me was like, oh, a concert.

So now I'm in this place. It smells like bleach and puke and there's broken glass everywhere. And this band, Naked Reagan goes on and it's like one, two, three, four, like right in my face. I mean, the singer was like three feet from me. People are stage diving all over me and stuff. That was my introduction to live music. And to this day, even if we're playing Wembley fucking stadium, I try as hard as I can to

summon that same energy that Naked Reagan had on stage that day. It changed my life forever. I mean, like honestly, that was, that was like, take me to the river. That was like a baptism by barf and mohawks. You know, I was just like, this is the coolest thing that's ever happened to me in my life. And I will never forget it. And one of the great things about it, like you said, is that it seemed available to me. It's like, I wasn't going to become Eddie Van Halen.

You know, I wasn't going to become Freddie Mercury, but I knew three chords and I could scream my fucking balls off. So guess what? I'm starting a band because evidently that's all you have to do. So it was, I was incredibly inspired. Like that was the first day of the rest of my life. This must get otherworldly for you. I'm a Beatles fanatic and I've had the pleasure of meeting Sir Paul McCartney on a handful

of occasions, but you have worked with the guy. Now here's someone who, when you look at what he's experienced and what he's achieved, at the age he's at now, there are people that say, well, you don't have to go out there anymore. And it's clear he's doing it because he needs it. He loves it. You have that same thing I think McCartney has, which is you, I think when you're 90, you're going to want to be doing this if you can physically do it. Yeah.

I mean, I think that, so that experience that I just explained to you how that changed my life, I'm sure Paul had that same experience when he saw Little Richard on the BBC or he saw Elvis on the BBC. Like everyone has that, just as everyone has their Beatles moment, you know, I'm sure that he had the same moment with someone else. And so that becomes this, you know, this foundation that everything is built upon for the rest of your life. And if you, the few times that I've jammed with Paul, it's like, he doesn't just pick

up a bass and go, all right, where do you want to just, yeah, listen to that. He's like, he puts on the bass and he'll like count in without even telling you what the song is. One, two, three. And you just go, like there was once where I played with him on the Grammys. He was, we played, I saw her standing there. So I was playing drums and, oh my God, it was so terrified. That was the first time I jammed with him, I think.

And so I was like, oh my God, I'm going to jam with Paul McCartney. And we get to the rehearsal space and I know his band and they're amazing. They're all the sweetest guys in the world and they're great. But we were only going to play one song. So like, when we just rehearse one song, you know, he comes in, he's like, all right, I was like, hey, Paul. And he puts on, I think put on a guitar first, maybe. And he just turned to the guys.

He's like, ready? Hey, one, two, three, four, and I'm just like, like, I had no idea. I didn't even know the song. I'd never heard it before. I was just doing this and everyone's like, bopping around, like, all right, cool. Yeah, yeah. Then we did like some other thing. We was just trying to warm up.

Then we did, I saw her standing there, which is the most iconic count in, I think of all time. Yeah. You know, I saw her standing there on the track. It's one of the most iconic, oh, one, two, three, four. So we do that. And then it's like, all right, cool, well, let's take a break. So we take a break.

He's like, you want to try the song again? We're like, all right. And we do it again. And it sounds great. He's like, cool. If everybody's good, Dave, are you good? And I'm like, could we play Let Me Roll It really quick? And he's like, yeah, sure, you guys.

And everyone's like, yeah. So we play Let Me Roll It. He's like, okay. You feel good? I'm like, can we do back in the USSR really quick? He was like, yeah, sure. I mean, it got to the point where he was like, Dave, like, are you done? And I'm like, no, but we can go home.

I want to do this for the rest of my life. It was amazing. But the thing that inspires me the most about him is when he does put on an instrument, like he played drums on our last record. I know. It's crazy. He played drums for you. But I'm thinking, first of all, you've got to step outside your body and look at yourself

in that moment and say, I got Paul McCartney to play drums for me. You got to have moments like that where you just say, okay. All the time. That's it. That's it. That rings the bell. Well, I like to, I mean, honestly, I wrote about this recently, you know, you always hear about your life flashing before your eyes on your deathbed just before you die.

And there's some moments in life that you think, oh, I'm going to see that one. Like it could be a beautiful theater. Your child sitting in your lap as the sun goes down, you know, getting to meet your idol or whatever. And you think, oh, that's, I'm going to see that one. That's what's going to flash before my eyes. I feel like that every fucking day, every fucking day, I'm like, I wonder if I'll see this before.

So it's almost like my life is flashing before my eyes as it's happening all the time. I'm just like collecting these moments where we're like, I can't fucking believe that just happened. I can't fucking believe this is real. And you know, of course, I'm very grateful. Like I just, I can't, it's fucking crazy. I think if your life is constantly flashing before your eyes, Dave, it means that you're constantly dying.

Maybe that's the way to look at it. Maybe it's all the LSD I took in high school, I don't know. So just like to point out, I know you mentioned LSD, but drugs have never been a big thing for you. No. You were never that interested in it. No. Your drug of, your drug of choice is probably caffeine more than anything else.

Absolutely. Dude, I had to go to the hospital once for drinking too much coffee. There was a time. What? Really? Yes, I was. That's so embarrassing. I hate to tell you.

That's so embarrassing for a rock star and everyone's like gathered around. What happened? Well, he has three lattes. It was, it was, it was, it was a very busy month. And so I just had another child. I was doing a food fighter's record. I was working with this other band, them crooked vultures that I was playing with. And so I was like, I'd wake up in the morning after two hours of sleep and I'd drink a pot

of coffee. And then I'd go to the first studio and drink a pot of coffee, then I'd probably drink another pot of coffee. Then I'd go back to the next studio and I'd drink a pot of coffee. And then I'd come home and I'm like, God, why can't I sleep? And it's like, oh, right. I had eight pots of coffee today. And it was like that for two weeks.

And then finally I was like, I got the chest pains. I'm like, oh my God. And actually it was right. We were about to go play the White House. It was, it was, is it possible, is it possible that subconsciously that was playing a part in your heart? It could have been. But I thought like, okay.

But so of course, what do I do? I Googled chest pains, like chest pains, what to do? And I'm putting like Excedrin in my wallet just in case and I'm, you know, but I thought, I thought, okay, well, I'm not going to call my doctor because he's going to say, don't go to the White House. I really wanted to go to the White House. It was like, Obama's first fourth of July party and we were playing in the backyard. I was like, I'm not, not going to this gig.

So I'm like, I think I'm going to die. But I thought like, okay, well, there's got to be a good doctor at the White House. Come on. If I were to like drop dead, having a heart attack right there, I'm pretty sure someone would be on me in like 10 seconds. They have very good equipment. I would imagine. So anyway, so I come back from that trip and I finally call my doctor.

I'm like, Mel, I'm having chest pains. He's like, you are? So yeah. He goes, are you having them now? I go, yes. He goes, get in here. So I go down there and he's got me like EKG and I'm on the treadmill and it's like sonograms and all this crap.

And he's like, well, I don't really see anything wrong, but just to be safe, go to Cedars and get like a CAT scan or something. I was like, all right. So I go and get this CAT scan. I come out of the CAT scan and they're like, the doctor will be with you in a moment. And there's this readout screen. The guy comes in. He's like, how are my names, doctor?

Well, he takes one look and he goes, how old are you? I was 40 at the time. I said, I'm 40. He goes, okay, why are you here? And I was like, I'm having chest pains. I'm going to fucking die, man. Like what's going on? He's like, your heart's fine.

Everything's fine. Are you under any stress? I was like, yeah, a little bit. He goes, do you get enough sleep? I'm like, no, I sleep like two hours a night. He's like, oh, okay. He goes, do you drink coffee? I was like, dude, you have no fucking idea.

Like, I am like the Tony Montagna of Folgers in a Tick. I'm just like, ridiculous, and he goes, okay, here's what you need to do. He goes, first of all, decaffeinate. I was like, you're certain. There's absolutely no. And then he said, just play drums three or four times a week and have a glass of red wine before bed. Favorite fucking doctor of all time.

I was like- What a great doctor. Right, I mean, the cap scan cost $47,000, but I got, at least he told me I could go home and get hammered, which I did. It'd be great if that was his advice, even to alcoholics. I'm a recovered alcoholic. Yeah, just have some red wine and go to bed. Are you sure?

I said, I tell you. But I was never into the drug thing. When I was young, I'd smoked weed and I took mushrooms, I took acid and stuff like that. But I was done with it by the time I was 19, something like that. So when I went up to, when I lived in Seattle, I just, I had nothing to do with any of that. And recently, within the last few years, I tried smoking pot again. I'm like, man, I used to be so good at it, you know, I was such a fun pot head. I was like, that was fun.

And now every time I do it, I just wind up on YouTube watching like Miles Davis interviews for four hours. I'm like, this is bad for my life. I don't know. This is bad. Check out that Quincy again the next time that you're, you can't sleep. Check out that Quincy episode. Yeah.

What is your, before you go on stage, what's your, everyone's got, I don't know why, because I'm a comedian, I do all these stretches and I've had people make fun of me backstage. Sony, you've seen me backstage. I'm constantly stretching and that's just, and that's just to talk and I'm stretching and people will be like, what the fuck are you stretching for? You're not going to run a marathon. You're going to go out there and be a wise ass. And I'll be like, I don't know.

I don't know. This is just what I do. I don't do vocal warmups, clearly. I don't do tea. I don't need space. I don't have a steamer and basically I open up the dressing room to as many friends as can fit in the dressing room. I have a Coors Light and a Shot of Crown Royal.

I've probably taken some Advil at this point because I'm an old man and it hurts to run around. And now I'm, I'm, I'm delivering shots to everyone in the room, but you got to do a shot with everyone you give. So now it's like Coors Light in, there's a shot of whiskey, right? Now two shots of whiskey, beer's gone. Now I'm on the second beer and I'm on my third shot of Crown. Gus Brant is like 20 minutes and, and we're all laughing.

Now this is the most important thing to me before walking on stage. Even if Gus says, ready to go, come on, they're waiting for you, I will not walk on stage until everyone in the band is laughing hysterically. Like we walk on stage smiling. It's true. It just happens. I mean, it's, you know, it's not, it's not something we have to force, first of all, but it's like, if I've had three Coors Lights, three Crown Royals, and Pat Smear just said

something that almost made me piss my pants, house lights, let's hit the stage. Like let's go. And then the next two and a half hours is like, it's a dream. It's great. And then we used to do, you know, we used to call it band prayer. Band prayer. Cause you know, some people are like, dear God, please give me the strength to rock this house tonight.

I mean, whatever, I'm not, I'm not a religious person, but I do find that to be kind of funny. Like you could ask God for anything like hunger, world peace, like the pandemic instead, there's someone like God gave me the strength to pop some of that booty tonight. I want to hear booties, I'm just like, okay, so we call the Crown Royal in the shot. It's like, that's band prayer, band prayer. I love that. Those same people. It's like, I think it's in Madonna's Truth or Dare movie where there's a lot of like

gathering around and give us the strength tonight to get through this show where I pretend to masturbate on a four-poster bed and sing a song, whatever. And I always thought this whole idea, it's exactly what you're saying that there could be a tsunami headed towards Indonesia. And they're like, should God stop the tsunami or should he help you rock tonight? I think it's more rock, I think is more important. I get it. And of course, you know, it's not my thing.

I understand why people do it. But no, I mean, I like to make everything seem as informal as possible at all times. KFC on the G5, band prayer is a course light with a little bit of Crown Royal. It's like things like that. You don't go on stage and tell you guys feel like you're, you know, having your own little six-person cake party. That's kind of the way I like to do shit with the food fighters. I do have to ask you, this is very indulgent of me, but as a guitar geek, I know that

you have reached the highest height of all heights when you have your own signature guitar. There's a Dave Grohl. It's like a Trini Lopez, right? It's a Trini. Yeah. It's basically a dumbed-down Trini. Comedians don't get their own signature line of guitars, but I never cared what a guitar sounded like.

I cared what it looked like. Pat Smear, our guitar player, used to go guitar shopping with a Polaroid and he would walk into a guitar store with his girlfriend and he'd pick a guitar up off the wall and he'd go, all right, take a picture and he'd go, it wouldn't even plug it in. Take a picture and then he'd sit there shaking the Polaroid and he'd look at it like, no, I don't like it. And then he'd go to another store and go, and he would sit there like, doesn't fit. Ooh, I like this.

You know, it was like he was buying shoes or something like that. Yes. That's how I've always felt about it. That is how I've always felt about it. Well, you know, God love you. You are the Swiss Army Knife of Rock, drummer, guitarist, singer, songwriter, frontman. You also have a wine opener that comes out of your side. I do.

Remember the toothpick? There's a little toothpick. The little toothpick. There's a little toothpick that comes out of your forehead. And you've got this new album, Medicine at Midnight, which I really love. I really love Waiting on a War. I love that song. And I'm thinking, I don't envy anybody being Dave Grohl's drummer, but.

You know what? I'm going to tell you exactly. Taylor Hawking's is absolutely amazing. Yeah. I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's two things. Now, first of all, I have always wanted to be a tap dancer my entire life. I've always wanted to learn.

You're kidding. No, I'm not. That is what I studied as a kid. I told my parents I want to be in show business someday. And I insist on being a tap dancer. And God bless my parents who know nothing about show business. They found me. This guy who had been the protege to Bill Bojangles Robinson, this very old black man in downtown

Boston, I was the only white kid that went and saw this guy and he taught me to be a tap dancer. You are a tap dancer. That is my life dream. So I have the shoes, but I haven't taken the lessons. One of these days. Anyway, but there's this overdub that I did where I was like, oh, wait, wait, let me try this.

And I go, I go. That's it. That's it. So if you put that thing that's exactly like on a wood floor, just like. If you put that over the drum beat, that's where you got that weird rolling loop. So there was part of me and Taylor were like, it kind of sounds like tap dancing, sort of. I'm like, let's put some guitars about it. Let's load it up with guitars and I'll sing about something really depressing.

It'll be great. Freaks me out that you're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, obviously, for Nirvana. And now like you're eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with Foo Fighters in a year, I think, which is insane to me. It's actually this year. Yeah. But I pushed it off till next year. Sorry, Dave, it just wasn't good timing for me to watch you get inducted into the Rock

and Roll Hall of Fame. But I remember very clearly, I'm sure a lot of your fans don't, but I remember very clearly when you started Foo Fighters that there was almost a hostility towards someone, a member of Nirvana going and starting something else. That hasn't entirely gone away yet. That's just something that you carry with you. When Nirvana ended, it was like, starting this band wasn't so much a musical decision as it was just a very emotional one.

Feeling like in the time between Foo Fighters and Nirvana, I was pretty lost. I was young. I was 25. I was getting asked by people, well, hey, do you want to play drums with us? Do you want to come and join the band? And I was like, just sitting behind a drum set was just, I was kind of traumatized. It just made me sad, you know? And even just listening to music, turning on the radio, it just made me sad.

And I eventually realized that music had been saving my life, my whole life. And so now it was going to have to do it again. And when I went and recorded that first record thing, that was more just some sort of emotional exercise or some sort of purge. Or just, to me, it was like a continuation of life because I was not ready to stop. And I was not ready to be stuck in that place for the rest of my life. I was not ready to just hang it up. I'm like, no, no, no, no, music has always represented life to me.

I'm going to do this. I don't know for who or why or for how long, but I just need to do it. And then when we started the Foo Fighters, it was like, you know, we got in the van, we went around and we opened up for a friend's band, we played in clubs and theaters and stuff. And it reminded me of why I love life and why I love music. And so to me, our band represents something like way more than just like t-shirts and downloads and stuff like that. To me, it really is a group of friends that chose life and a continuation of life.

And I still feel that way every day. I think you pulled off near impossible feet and creating this career, this second career, and then doing so much with it. And on top of it all, you're a class act and a very fine gentleman. So just thank you so much. Today, I was so looking forward to this chance to talk to you today and geek out a little bit that I was sort of revving all day long. So thank you.

Thanks, Colin. Thank you for coming to my cast. Yeah. That means a lot. Thank you. And anytime you want to Gretch, I have like 900. You know what? How about this?

I'll trade. You want to trade a Trini for a Gretch? Pick a Gretch. I'll pick a Trini and then we'll do a swap. I would do that in a heartbeat. Me too. But hey, I don't want to keep you any longer. I know you've got packages waiting for you at the door.

Hey, Amazon, a FedEx and I got the cat hotel. It's been a busy day. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thanks, everybody. That was super fun. This is exciting because Sona, I think maybe there's something you're okay with talking about.

I am. You are. Do you want to? All of America is listening and by that, I literally mean we're a very successful podcast. Okay. So in my mind, everyone in America is listening. Why don't you tell us what you have to say?

I'm pregnant. Yeah. Congratulations. Yay. Thank you very much. That is so exciting. That is so exciting. I know.

Thank you. I have known for a while, but of course, and I was proud of myself because you can't tell people. And you know what I love? I'm making this about me instantly. You know what though, you were I think the first person besides me intact to know because I came to your house to help you with something and you offered me wine and I said, no, I'm not drinking and you're like, are you pregnant?

You just immediately asked me and I think we had found out the day before that we were. And you know it was weird, it was nine o'clock in the morning and I was drinking out of a bottle of wine. I wasn't even pouring it into a glass and I was like, Sona, have some. And she said, well, I don't think what are you pregnant? What's the due date? And when is the birth certificate man coming around? That's right.

It's six months after you give birth that you have to get the same guy who was four months late for your dad's birth certificate. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to track that guy down and I'm going to fly him to the United States so that he can handle your birth certificate. Well, I don't think he came because of my dad. He came to the village and he's like, okay, what babies were born? And then people were like, my baby was born and my baby, you're like, okay, all of you

have a February 5th birthday. Oh my God. That's how they did it. Do you think he did other things too? I get the sense that he didn't. He sounds like a guy who came to the village to deliver mail, give you your birth certificate. He probably had a soft serve machine, you know, if anyone wanted ice cream. He sounds like a guy who did a bunch of things.

Well, we are also, we're having twins. Oh my God. I know. Oh, I know. As the tears rolled down my face. That's four birth certificates. Oh man, good one. Gorly, you just hit it.

That was the natural. You hit it out of the park. It hit the lights and the lights exploded. I'm going on Tylenol PM every day. Hey, you are so funny when you're jacked on Tylenol PM. So Sona, you're having, you're having twins. Can I ask more questions? Do we know the sex?

Yes. They're both, they're both boys. Oh my God. Oh my God. So yeah. This is so great. It's a lot. It's a lot out at once.

So we'll never, we'll never talk to you again in a couple of months. No, I don't think so. I don't think you will. So I'm due mid-July, but they'll probably come early because twins come early. And yeah, you know, we spend a lot of our time just kind of sitting here in silence, just being like, what did we, what did we do? And TAC keeps asking if he has time to do his karate, which he does. So.

Yes. Well, guess what? Let me explain something to you, Sona. There's a call to hierarchy of needs. Yeah. And priorities. And so what's going to happen is TAC's karate, and I promise you this, is going to go away. I hope he has a sensei that's going like change diaper and he teaches him wax the fence, but

his baby stuff. Yeah. It's funny if his, if his karate style is all based, like the way Mr. Miyagi's was on wax on wax off, it's all based on changing two diapers at once with each hand. And that becomes like the most impossible, fantastic defense attack in karate. Oh my God. This is insane. I'm so happy for you.

Thank you. And for TAC. Yeah, I know. It's very exciting. Yeah, we wanted it for a while. So this is exciting. It's a lot. I'm thrilled for you guys.

Wow. And of course, I knew about this. And then you, you showed me a video of your mom and your dad being told and you did a really cute thing. My nieces tell her, and they're really young. I couldn't believe that they kept the secret because. Yeah, they're seven and five and they were bursting to tell them. And you know, my mom has two grand, two granddaughters, so she's so badly wanted a boy.

And then we told them we were having twins and then we were like, okay, guess the gender. And my mom was just like, boy, like she didn't care. She willed it into half. And she also, I'm going to backstone it up. I've seen the video. Your mother does it with no joy. She's like really happy that you're having the baby. She's really happy.

And you say, and then you say, it's twins. And she's like, oh my God. And she's crying and she sits down and she can't stand up. And then you just say, guess the gender. And she just leans forward and she goes, boy, like that's, I'm not asking. I'm telling you, it is boy. I don't care what the other one is as long as one is a boy who cares. Oh man.

Yeah. And then, you know, my grandpa's 98 and he was in the video and he's just eating and he has no idea what's going on. He just knows everyone's like chaotic. That is incredible. That is wonderful. That made my day. Yeah.

Isn't that fantastic? And it's very exciting. You know, I remember just to give everyone a sense of your mom, do you remember the first thing your mom said to me when I met her, which is now 11 years ago when your mom came to the set of what was then the Tonight Show. And we hadn't even started the Tonight Show yet and you brought your mother up to say hello to me. She said, you rock the USA.

She said, I said, oh, hi, how are you? Mrs. Muff says to you and she went, Conan, you rock the USA. I was like, well, no, I don't, but that's, I never have and I never will, but that's a very sweet thing for her to say upset. She doesn't like it when I call you a dick on TV. That's something she brings up all the time. She doesn't like that you disrespect me. Yes.

She hates it. How does she like that you're regularly doing a segment called Big Dick History? She does not listen to the podcast. Good. Oh my God, I think she'd be horrified. Oh, man. Well, this is exciting. This is really exciting.

So I'm just so, and I, I, I check with you beforehand because I know I come across as an insensitive brute, but I do want to make sure that I'm not revealing or making you say anything about your life that you don't want to. This is, you, you were cool with talking about this. It's really exciting. Yeah. I mean, we're, you know, we're, um, tech, tech doesn't like when we like post things on Instagram.

So we're not going to have like photo shoot and post anything. So this is pretty much my only way of like telling people I forgot to tell. So that's, that's, it's like killing two birds with one stone, I guess. Oh good. Well, so we found a use for this podcast, a baby announcement. That's terrific. So that's great. Yeah, it's very convenient for me.

Thank you. Well, if anything else, you know, if you want to tell, tack what time is karate class starts. Yeah. You can make that announcement too. Uh, well, I just wanted to get, I'm so glad. So glad that's out there. What, what do they say in, in, uh, in Armenia, uh, I mean, I know that like the Jewish people would say like, oh, Mazel Tov or is there any way of saying, what do you, what do you

say? Like, it means, uh, like, uh, light to your eye. Light to your eye. What? Yeah, I mean, at least like your eye, your eye light, light in your eye, what's going on over there? Yeah. I mean, birth certificates are coming months late.

And then the way you, and then the way you, you know, in this country, applying light to someone's eye as a neurological exam, it's a way of telling if you've been injured. So if you want to congratulate someone, you could theoretically just shine a flashlight in their face. I guess. I don't know. Say, how do you, how do you, how do you, how do you, how do you, how do you, how do you you look, so you have their eyes, likes, likes.

It, it's everyday. Was it the, was it the red?" Yes, I remember. And people do the same thing. What was going to happen then? You didn't tell him or you don't während? Well, no, I didn't tell anyone. I did tell him.

Somethingberg came, he's like, okay. Hey, listen, I'm not saying that. Yeah. Share. You know what's funny? Since knowing Sona and famously knowing Sona, everywhere I go, Armenian people are like, go on in!

And then I go, I go, Baraev, Inch Pasek, and they go, love em! And now I can say, what is it? Light in your eye, light in your eye. Atskut Luis. Atskut Luis. And then I can say share. You don't have to say share.

She's Armenian. She's Armenian. You're just gonna yell out Armenian people? Well, I'm not gonna mention the Kardashians. Oh, that's probably for the best. I think so. I think share is the better way to go. All right, well, congratulations.

Congrats, Sona. Thanks, guys. Really happy. Really happy. Thank you. If that's not a segment, I don't know what is. Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend with Sona Movsesian and Conan O'Brien as himself.

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