Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Don’t Sit Down on Wet Grass

Episode Date: May 27, 2021

Conan hears a diary excerpt from Katelyn at CalTech and shares some of his superstitions. Then he talks with Farhan at NYU about pursuing a career photographing comedy. Wanna get a chance to talk ...to Conan? Submit here: TeamCoco.com/CallConan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hi, Caitlin. Please meet Conan O'Brien. Hey, Caitlin. How are you?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Hi, Conan. I'm good. Thanks. It sounds like you're crying. Are you okay? No, I'm not Conan. Oh, that was laughter. That was laughter.
Starting point is 00:00:25 There's no way I could be okay right now. Are you serious? No, I'm, you know, I was concerned about you because at first I wasn't sure. I'm very bad sometimes at reading people and they'll be laughing and I think they're crying. Or they're crying and I think they're laughing. Do you think that's a childhood thing? I think it is. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I was very always, and the Irish, when someone dies, we all get together and I'm not kidding. We have an Irish wake and people laugh. And like the dead bodies in the room, in the casket and we're all laughing and I saw this as a kid and it confused me. So when, when I do a show and I get a laugh, that's why I sometimes look upset because I almost feel that someone has passed. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, Caitlin, I get the sense that you're a very impressive person.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Oh boy. I don't know about that. I do. You are, what are you studying? I'm studying bioengineering. Okay. So I'm correct. That is, I think very impressive.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And where are you studying? I'm studying at Caltech. Oh, for God's sake. Nice. Yeah, so really nice to you. I feel like already I work for you. Don't you, Sona? Don't you feel like both of us work for Caitlin?
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah. And actually, yeah, I'm close to her because she's in Pasadena. I feel like I could just roll by and we could go get Burger King together. That would be great. I mean, this summer I have nothing to do. Well, I mean, I have research this summer, but in the afternoons I have nothing to do. Yeah. It's just bioengineering research.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah. No big deal. You can blow that off super easy and then hit Burger King with Sona. And she'll ruin your career because she did nothing but screw around in college and didn't take it seriously. And you clearly do. That is so impressive. Bioengineering, what do you want to bioengineer someday?
Starting point is 00:02:08 What are you passionate about in bioengineering? I'm super interested in the medicinal side of things, using bioengineering for developing new kinds of cancer drugs or kinds of diagnostic tools. Yes. Caitlin, I don't mean to put any pressure on you, but you know, I've been around for a while on earth and I need you to figure out all this stuff very quickly. You need to reverse the aging process. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Okay. Seriously, like this summer? I have to do a few and it seems like for you though. Oh, whoa. Yes. Whoa. Caitlin, I didn't see that coming at all. You're such, you're a sophomore and you seem very sweet and I wasn't expecting it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's a strange morning. It's either on or off. I lowered my hands because I felt safe and you put a dagger in my belly. That was fantastic. Keep you on your toes. No, you really don't. You really don't have to keep me on my toes. Everyone daily around me treats me with nothing but disrespect and loathing.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Just come up with something. Okay. We'll do. Is there a way that you could keep my head alive? Like my body will wither and fail, but just I'm a head in a jar, but I can still think. I feel like that's the thing they did on Futurama, right? They did. They did.
Starting point is 00:03:31 That's where the idea comes from. Everything on Futurama is eventually going to come true. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, The Simpsons is already predicting the future, so. It is. Yes. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Now, you're also in an acapella group. I am. Yes. Fluid dynamics. Fluid dynamics is the name of your acapella group. You know, my wife, when she was in college at Vassar, she was the pitch at her acapella group. So she blew the little pitch pipe.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Oh, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, and then she counted everybody down and they would sing songs. And I've seen grainy video of it and it's adorable. And I got my first start in show business when I was in college, there was a group called the Radcliffe Pitches and they asked me to emcee one of their shows and that was my first time going up in Sanders Theater in college and emceeing and I was so scared backstage, but it went well. So I have a very close association with acapella groups.
Starting point is 00:04:30 That's good. Yeah. I mean, I guess I just wanted to say before I went to your show Conan and Friends because I live in New York City, grown up in New York City and in 2018, fall of 2018, you had a show in New York. I did it. It was a what I did was I did a stand up tour with some really funny comedians. I just wanted to read you something I wrote in my diary that day because I have like a
Starting point is 00:04:56 long just word document where I jot down various things. I'm worried it's going to say dear diary tonight was my chance to kill him at long last. Oh my God. Come on. Come on. You never know. She's not going to tell you that she wrote that in her diary.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You're right. I mean that. Yeah. She can't reveal her murder plot. All right. Go ahead. Exactly. Caitlin, read your diary.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I want to hear this. Yeah. So my high school went on a quarter system. So the first sentence is the first quarter is done. Wow. I saw Conan O'Brien at the Conan and Friends show with Kayla, my friend, on Thursday night and skipped over Lyserque. Lyserque was a high school party that like is put on by the students and it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:37 just a very stereotypical high school party. So I skipped that for you. And this is what I said. Thank you. Dot dot dot. And it was the best decision I've made in a while. It was so. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:48 The comics were great. They is by the river. I think was something one of the comics said flew LeBourg ran right by us. And I almost asked Conan a question about his pre slash post show traditions after being on the air for 25 years, but I wasn't called on. Oh, well. And here I am. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's so good that I think this is better. This is better than you asking me that question. We got some weird questions. It was really fun. The Q and A at the end was really fun because it would lead to all these strange places. And I think remember the son of one person actually didn't they, they, they, they skipped work so they could come to the show. And then they got fired.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And so they brought their phone up. I've made them bring the phone up and I called their boss from the stage. That was really fun. There's a lot of fun stuff like that. All right. So your question is about pre-show rituals. Well, yeah, that was, that was my question. You don't care about that anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Do you? Yeah, I know I've moved on. You don't even care. Okay. Well, I was going to tell you I spent my pre-show ritual trying to find someone who will help me stave off my inevitable death using bioengineering. Well, Conan, your father is a microbiologist, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Well, he says he's a microbiologist. He, oh, we don't know what he does. He goes to a lab. He says it's a lab. I think it's the bus station for years. He would always say, I've got to go to the lab and work on my, and then he'd pause and look around and say, microbiology. Like what a real microbiologist say that.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And then he'd head towards the bus station. Sounds like something from Sophie's choice. It does. You are dark. No, no, that, the, um, what's his name, the, the lover. He would always say, like, oh, I'm a, I'm a scientist. And then he would go away, but he wasn't actually a scientist, not, not the other part of Sophie's choice.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Oh, you mean the fun, happy part of Sophie's choice? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot that it started as, as just a comedic romp.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And then the story took a weird turn during a rewrite. Caitlin, you right now are in your, where are you in your house? I'm in my room. This is my, this is my room. Yeah. I saw the, uh, my Bolton board with just everything about my life on it. I have a guitar too. I thought I should, you know, it seems like everybody in the podcast has a guitar on their
Starting point is 00:08:05 wall. So I thought I'd bring mine in and just leave it there to fit in. But you don't play it. I do. I do play. I do play. Do you write a lot of songs about bioengineering? No, I can't write songs.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I have so much respect for people who can. I just like to sing and play and I have contempt for anyone who has a talent I don't have. I just, they make me angry and bitter. Uh, yeah, I really do. I, you know, when I see someone just playing an amazing talent that I don't have, I just leave the room in a huff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That's just my sort of approach to life. I think it's very reasonable. We have to protect my fragile ego. Is your family around? Are they bugging you? Well, I'm at home with my parents. My older brother has escaped. He lives downtown.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Um, but yeah, I've been with my mom and my dad and you know, it's, it's been a better time than I, at least my parents are really enjoying me being at home. They, they love it. Of course. They love you. They love you and they want you at home. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It seems they never want me to leave too, but I, I have to, I have to go at some point. You have to, you have to go at some point. You do. But for now, this is a nice interlude there with your parents. What do your parents do? My dad does something in finance. I honestly could not tell you. He's explained it to me like multiple times.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. No, he hasn't. He's being as vague as my dad is. I do something in finance. That means he's probably a hired assassin. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's physique.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. No, no, no. You use a rifle. You use a rifle. That's true. That's true. All I need is a gun to be an assassin. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:09:40 You do. Yes. Yeah. A lot of assassins are deceptively weak-bodied. Yeah. Yeah. Shallow-gested. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Trust me on this. Please. I think that's true. I forgot you were next to me. I know enough about assassins to know that they're not weak-bodied. Anyway, my prediction is that your dad is not in finance if he says, I do something in finance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 That means he doesn't do anything in finance. Yeah. And I think he's a shallow-gested, weak-armed, long-rifle assassin. That's my assessment. And Caitlin, I'm always right. Always right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Of course. Not always. Yes. Always right. Always right. It's incredible. Yeah. I hope this has been a nice experience for you.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I hope you've enjoyed yourself. Mm-hmm. You know I'm a bot, right? Oh, yeah. I'm not the real Conan. Yeah. The real Conan doesn't have time for this. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah, of course. Of course. He's being operated by a guy named Will Bekdon. Yeah. Who's in a van right now using some high-powered servers. And he's able to simulate what it would be like to talk to me. Yeah. Even down to my readie voice.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I guess... Can I ask my question now? Sure. Yeah. My question is... Oh, I thought you did... That was your question. What's your question?
Starting point is 00:10:49 What kind of superstitions do you have? Because my family is Korean and my mom grew up in Korea and has a ton of really crazy superstitions. Like, you can't whistle at night because, like, snakes will come. You shouldn't, like, clip your fingernails before an exam because it's like... You're getting rid of your knowledge somehow. Yes. Like, various kinds of superstitious things.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So do you have any superstitions? Yeah. It's... You're saying it's cultural. Well, Sona, you can relate to this because... Oh, million. Sona has... she comes from this real hardcore Armenian culture and she wears those eyes. What are they called?
Starting point is 00:11:26 They're the evil eye. Yeah. I have them everywhere. But what are they called? They're called the evil eye. Oh, I thought they had an Armenian name. Occhk. So she has an Occhk and she has them everywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:34 She has them in her car. She has them hanging around, you know, it's the first thing you see when you walk through the door of her house. She wears them on her body. I mean, it looks like she's... Oh, yeah. Really? She's a homologist or something.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah. I feel like you mooch off of my superstition. No. I've sometimes asked you, you know, when I've needed something or I need something to go well, I've asked your mom to use her Occhk to try and help me out. Yeah. You know. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:04 There's a lot of superstitions we use. Yeah. And we protect you when you don't even realize it. Well, I come from absolutely batshit crazy inbred Irish people and I swear to God, our grandmother, our grandmother who, I mean, I think she was, she was, when she was living with us, I think she was 97 and she lived in the house with us. If my six, there were six of us kids and my mother and my dad and dogs and cats and parakeets and it was just a madhouse.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And she used to say all these things like I remembered her telling me, don't sit down on wet grass or you'll get diarrhea. Wow. Don't sit down on wet grass. Now that sounds less like a superstition than she thought that was real sound medical advice. Sounds like something she's telling you out of experience, you know, just to. Well, I don't know. That's what she said.
Starting point is 00:12:53 She said, don't sit down on wet grass. You have diarrhea. And there was this woman, I won't name her, but she worked with, she helped out and she helped take care of us because my parents were off working and I remembered my brother Luke got a, he got a wart on his hand. And so she said, I'll fix that. And she cut a potato in half, rubbed one half of the potato on the wart and buried the other half in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Of course it's a potato. Yes. Yes. And you know what? There were plenty of potatoes around. Well, did it work? So I grew up and then the weird thing is, as you said, my dad's a microbiologist or so he says, but he'd be like, hmm, yes, that sounds, that sounds good to me off to the bus
Starting point is 00:13:41 station to pretend I'm a microbiologist. So yeah, the whole thing was a shit show and I think, I think that superstitious brain has come with me and I'm not kidding. I think my biggest superstition, I'm not proud of this is, I think I have to be kind of unhappy for something to go well. And that's really true. You've probably noticed that. So like I, if I have a show to do, if I'm feeling too good beforehand, and I think I
Starting point is 00:14:09 do this, this is not a joke. I think I like to go to a dark place before I allow myself to go out into a happy place. That gives me, and that is not, I've had cognitive therapy. I know that that is, doesn't make any sense, but that probably for real is my real superstition and one that has been a huge pain in the ass in my life. It's the Irish Catholic, right? It's the Irish Catholic. You know, it's just this, you've got to feel bad to feel good.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I have one more question that I'm dying to ask. Wow. Okay. All right. Let's go for it. What are your top two favorite Beatles songs? Oh, that is a good question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:51 My first one is Day in the Life. Day in the Life. I just love that. And that's the, that's just, I think has between, I think it's the best example of a collaboration between Paul and John. And I also think it's the best, a beautiful melody and just haunting lyrics. And I think it's, I think it's an absolute masterpiece. So it might be that.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And then after that, I guess, I mean, I guess I'm revealing myself as leaning a bit of the John way, but yeah, I would say Strawberry Fields is just so the complexity of it and the beauty of it. And again, something, there's something sad about it that I really love. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Those, those are my two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I think I'm going to have to move on now because I have to move on to someone else will have a question, but I'm not going to like them as much as I like you, Caitlin, and I can't say that to them. I'm so honored. But you're, you really are. When I meet young people that are working hard and learning real things, like you're not just saying, I'm in an improv class and you're, you're actually out there learning real stuff that's going to, and using science to make the world a better place.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It makes me really happy. So thank you. I'm glad. You're inspiring me right now. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, you've inspired me for so long, I guess I should return the favor. That's sweet.
Starting point is 00:16:11 You really should. And it's about time. Yeah. And go tell your father that I don't believe you were to finance. Yeah, definitely. All right. Take care, Caitlin. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:16:20 This has been a dream for you. Bye. And congrats, Sona. Thank you. Thank you so much. Hi there, Farhan. Oh, hi, Farhan. How are you?
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm good. How are you guys? We're doing all right, Farhan. Where are you? Right now, I'm in Brooklyn. Tell us a little bit about yourself, Farhan. What do you do? Are you a student?
Starting point is 00:16:44 You seem to be a young fellow. Yeah, I'm a student. Yeah, I go to NYU. That's an excellent school. Excellent school. And I hope you get back there soon. I think you will. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I'll put in a word. NYU opened up before all your other schools, just because of you, Farhan. Your word from you will definitely, CDC, who cares? Conan O'Brien? That's the guy. Yeah. CDC is like a joke when, here's the thing, they say, who's the president of NYU right now?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Do you know who's the dean, who's the head honcho at NYU? I think Andrew Hamilton. Right. Andrew Hamilton. So, Andrew Hamilton is sitting in his office and his assistant comes in and says, Anthony Fauci's on line one, Conan O'Brien's on line two. He punches line two, okay? He doesn't even say, can you ask Fauci to hold, or can I call back Fauci?
Starting point is 00:17:34 He doesn't even acknowledge that Fauci is there. He picks up the phone, and I say, Hamilton, Conan O'Brien here, and he goes, mister O'Brien, I'm so honored to, I go, quiet! We've got to get Farhan back to school. Open up NYU. I go, immediately, mister, it's doctor O'Brien to you, even though I'm not a doctor. And that's how that scene plays out. Fauci, he never even gets to talk.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Who's that? Yeah, who's Fauci who? Fauci who? You know what? Farhan, you get it. You get it, Farhan. Tell me, what is your full name, Farhan? It's Farhan Kamdar.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And where is your family hail from originally, like your lineage? They're from Pakistan. Oh, Pakistan, okay, fantastic. Now, tell me a little bit about your family. Do you come from a big family, small family? Family of five, I have two sisters and they're twins, speaking of which, congrats, Sona. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah. Twins. Yay, twins. Very excited about that for Sona. So, you have twin sisters, and what do they do? They're both doctors, and so are my parents. Oh, my God. What kind of doctors are they?
Starting point is 00:18:48 One's a neurologist, one is doing just general practice, and then my mom is an internal medicine and my dad runs a nursing home. Oh, my God. Farhan, you are, this means you have to be a doctor. The pressure's unbearable, right? It's insane. Do they really want you to be a doctor? They did until I refused, I refuse every day.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Still they tell me I got to be a doctor, but. What? Yeah, so you wake up in the morning and you come down to get your ego awful, because that's the perfect breakfast, and they all just stare at you and say, you're becoming a doctor, and you say, no, I'm not, no, is that how it goes? More or less, yeah. It doesn't help that I'm currently in film school, which is quite the opposite. Farhan, you went completely the other way, and so what do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:19:41 Do you want to follow up on film school? Do you want to be a film director? What would you like to do? What's your ambition? Really, right now, I'm looking towards like comedy or photography or photography, photographing comedy. Right. It's a very specific niche.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Photographing comedy. So you would want to take, if I was doing something funny, you'd take a photo of me doing something funny. Exactly. That would be, I would like that there be proof that I did something funny, we'd actually have it on, we'd have a photograph of it. That's, wow, that's very specific. That's really fascinating.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And so you have to understand that this is not going to go well with your parents. No. They still think that there's hope for me to be a college professor if I can't be a doctor. But they still say, you know, there's still time. There's always time. That's the level of pressure on you is that you're supposed to settle, you would settle for college professor.
Starting point is 00:20:33 That's insanity. Well, listen, do you hang out with a lot of film buffs and all your friends, if you're majoring in film at NYU, and that is a really, that is the top program in the country. That's a very serious program. I mean, everybody wants to get into the program you're in. All of your friends must just sit around and talk film all the time. Yeah. And it's a little bit strange that I'm not that into, like, they're very into film.
Starting point is 00:21:07 That's a nice way to put it. And I'm more like, I like movies. If that makes sense. Wait a minute. So they're, they're into, they're into cinema. They like cinema. And so I'm guessing your friends sit around, they talk about like French New Wave, right? German Expressionism, all of this terminology.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And I'm just like, I like to take pictures sometimes. And that's what you say is I like to take pictures sometimes. That's all you've ever said to them. Yeah, I don't think they've heard any other words from my mouth. What about, do you like watching these very erudite, niche, black and white Swedish films from, you know, the 1940s? Is that, is that what you're into? When they say, let's go watch one of those movies, what do you really want to be watching
Starting point is 00:21:53 instead? What kind of movies do you like? To be honest, I would rather be watching like, I'm watching Schitt's Creek right now, which is the closest thing to a movie I'm watching. Yeah. So I'd be rather watching Schitt's Creek. Schitt's Creek is amazing. If you say that to these friends, do they like take out their clove cigarettes and stamp
Starting point is 00:22:10 them out and then throw their berets across the room and get really mad at you? They would if they weren't wearing all suede and it would wrinkle. Do they whip off their monocle and smash it on the ground and say, fire on you with your Schitt's Creek. Man, I don't know. I, I, I love, I mean, first of all, I like people, I don't like snobbery. So Schitt's Creek is fantastic and great things, many in every genre, there is greatness. So in my opinion, so, um, I mean, Sona likes anything that was made to entertain people.
Starting point is 00:22:50 She actually has no standards. So she'll be watching something and I'll say, what are you watching that for? That's a terrible show, you know, about male gigalos and she'll be like, I don't know. They made it. So it must be good. Like, no. Okay. Isn't that true?
Starting point is 00:23:04 Well, you know what? When Farhan was talking about how he watches, I was like, that's how I am. I'm just so proud of people for making things. And I'm like, you guys did something and that's exciting and I'll watch it to support you. They put so much effort into it. The least you can do is watch it. Yes. Like, you know, you're, you're making fun of gigalos, but they get naked.
Starting point is 00:23:25 That takes a lot of courage and then they have grips and they're sound people and they're all doing their job and it's, they have editors. Okay. So nice job. Okay. Good job for everybody. Right. But then be great if you were a film critic, Farhan.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And so was Sona. If you both, if you were both film critics and you had a film critic show and every time you're like, well, today we're going to watch the movie and, you know, whatever, any movie, any movie that you just watched, we're going to watch Beethoven seven. And, and then you're like, here's our review. Hey, they worked hard and they made this thing. So we should all support it and you should see it. So again, that's two thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So that's our, and then people noticed that you always gave a thumbs up. Like anything, anything was, they made it. And I think that's really positive. Sometimes people just want positivity, Conan. I don't know. Yep. Yep. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:18 You're right. What are you trying to tell me, Farhan? How are you doing, Sona? What's up? Oh my God. Man, Farhan. I know. I like Farhan a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Farhan, I am, you know, I'm not an older man, but I'm an aging man, a man who's going through the aging process. I've been around. I've seen things. I have wisdom. Maybe I can help you in some ways or anything you'd like to ask me, is there any way that I can help Farhan? I did actually have a question.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It was about comedy. If you think it's something that is inherited or it's something that you can learn to do. I think you have to have it in you and then you can learn to hone it, but I honestly think that funny people, something has almost gone wrong with them. And I know it sounds like a joke, but whatever it is, they have something in their brain that makes associations that shouldn't be there. And so they're going to find out later on, and maybe it'll be one of your sisters that figures this out.
Starting point is 00:25:18 The neurologist will figure out that, oh, there's a synaptic fissure that creates a short circuit and that's why people think of these weird things. It's actually a problem and it can be corrected. I think comedy is something that, real comedy is something that people have within them. They look at life a little differently or they see things strangely or they have strange thoughts. Maybe it's a glitch in the system, I don't know, but that's my take on it. As you know, Farhan, you've met people who are either funny or they're not funny, and
Starting point is 00:25:53 imagine taking that unfunny person you know and training them to be funny. I don't see it. I don't see that working out. Do you? No, I agree with you, I think. But as you said, you are more wise. I think how you put it. Instead of wiser, what should I have said, wiser?
Starting point is 00:26:13 I meant like older, yeah. You two are kind of similar because Conan, your dad's a microbiologist and your mom is a lawyer. Yeah. And then you did comedy. Yeah, there was pressure on me and I worked really hard. I mean, you're no slouch, you're at NYU in this very prestigious program, so you worked hard and you're very bright, you're very smart.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I worked really hard when I was in high school and then went to Harvard and people, I think the expectation was I was going to go on to some noble profession and immediately started wasting all my time on comedy and then called my parents up one day and they were like, tell us, son, you know, you were the first one in our family to attend Harvard, you must tell us what are your plans. I'm going to go into comedy. That's what I'm going to do. I might even try improv.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And I'll work for a cartoon that doesn't exist yet called The Simpsons because that's how I talked back then. And they were like, well, I don't think this sounds like a good plan. Yes, what I want to do. And that's how you need to speak to your parents with that same tone of voice. I think that is almost verbatim what I said to my mother this morning. You said to your mother, I don't want to be a doctor and I refuse to be a doctor. I even told her I'd be working for a cartoon that doesn't exist yet.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Good. Yeah. You got to stand up for yourself, Farhan. You really do. You've, first of all, we have enough doctors. I really believe that. Walk around. They're everywhere.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And they're always wearing their doctor smocks and having that doctor attitude and being all doctorly. We have so many doctors. What we need is more entertainment in America. You know, you turn on a Netflix or an HBO Max, they barely have anything. And you've probably watched Schitt's Creek 35 times because it's one of the only sitcoms that exists. There aren't that many.
Starting point is 00:28:16 There's Schitt's Creek and Friends and then you have to go back to the 70s. So my point is we have enough doctors. We have enough people that are studying how to help people. We need more entertainment, Farhan. I agree. You look around right now. What are doctors doing? It's entertainers, especially nowadays.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yes. Thank you. You know, look at this epidemic we've just had. What have people done? They've all crowded around their TVs and they've binge-watched shows to get through the epidemic. What have doctors and healthcare workers done? What have they done during the epidemic? I haven't given this a lot of thought, Farhan, but I'm guessing not much.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Farhan, you help me. You help me see the light. You and I think very much alike. I don't know if that's a compliment or not. You either just insulted both of us or complimented both of us. I think you insulted both of us, Farhan. That's what I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Farhan, don't be sad. Why are you getting all sad? You shouldn't be sad, Farhan. You've got a whole life ahead of you of taking pictures of people doing funny things. That's a good, you know? How does that work exactly? Explain that to me again. Are you going to come?
Starting point is 00:29:30 You're going to come take pictures of me, you think? If you'd let me. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Are you going to take the photographers who take pictures during late night shows and behind the scenes at SNL and stuff like that? Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Now I know exactly what you're talking about. The idea is to catch us when we're not really performing. We're wearing this stupid outfit, but we're looking a little sad because we're trying to think of what the next... It's like during a commercial break, do you know what I mean? That's a really cool idea. I think you will do well. I really do.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Thank you so much. And you're a good man. You really are. Thank you. And I'm like your Yoda. It means a lot coming from someone who's above Fauci on the... Oh, not even close. Not even close.
Starting point is 00:30:19 They asked me to get involved in the whole COVID thing a year ago and I'm like, I can't do that. I got a podcast. I got a show. And then I just was like, I don't know, just get that Fauci guy and they were like, would much rather have you. And I'm like, just call Fauci. I don't have time for this shit.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Second choice. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, so whatever, I guess they got what they could. Good luck with him. Look, anytime I can get together with Farhan and throw shade at Dr. Anthony Fauci, I'm happy. Farhan, really good luck to you. Tell your parents I said, get off your back.
Starting point is 00:30:55 You know? I will do it. Just say, I just talked to Coney, he said, get off my freaking back, man. I gotta be me. I gotta do me. You know? That's what you got to tell them. And then do the whole rant about how doctors, there's too many of them.
Starting point is 00:31:10 They don't really do anything. Do that whole rant. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I will do that. Okay. Farhan. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Well, thank you very much. It was very nice talking to you. And best of luck to you. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. No problem. Bye-bye. Bye.
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