Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Jeff Goldblum Returns
Episode Date: June 6, 2022Jeff Goldblum feels utterly drenched and purged about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Jeff and Conan sit down once again to discuss Jeff’s mysterious dreams, jazz musicianship, the movie theater ...experiences that blew them away, and reprising the role of Dr. Ian Malcolm in the upcoming Jurassic World: Dominion. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (323) 451-2821. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.
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Watch this. Hello. My name is Jeff Goldblum, G-O-L-D-B-L-U-M. And I'm reading for some of
the first, oh yes, first thing I did it, first name, last name. It's empty something. Yeah.
And then pause. Here comes. That's enough of that. And I feel, and then it says here,
parenthesis, however I feel. Well, madness. Madness. Madness. Hey, that's the last line
of what movie? This is the, here, last line of movie. Madness. Madness. Tell me the movie.
Oh my God. I know that movie. I know that movie. Is it an older movie? Yes. Wait a minute. I
can give you a clue. Madness. Wait a minute. Is it, hold it. Madness. Is it Apocalypse Now? No. No,
that's the horror. The horror. You're close though. Yeah. And it has a similar. Oh wait,
it's The Last Family Ties. No, it does. It ends with madness. Madness. I love that this is the
introduction to the show. We have to wrap up what this movie is and then do the name thing. All
is one giant piece. We're still rolling. You're still rolling. Really? Yeah. I mean, this has
been real. You can't use this. No, we can't. But give us a hint on that movie. Okay, I'll give you
a hint. A lesser cast member, Jack Hawkins. Probably don't even know who that is. What kind
of clue is that? A ceramic mug features in a breakfast scene. There's a clue for you. No, no,
Jack Hawkins. There are those who know very well, Jack Hawkins. I'll get, and already know this
movie, I'll give you a giveaway clue. Bill Holden. William Holden. Oh, Stalag 17? No, good. No, pretty
good guess. It's kind of a war picture. He does not deliver the last line, by the way. Oh, the
bridge over the River Kwai. Yeah, bridge over the River Kwai. That was my last. Just as he blows
up the bridge. Yes. Exactly. Now, altogether, let's whistle the song that is ready. Oh wait,
that's the wrong one. That's it. I can't whistle, and I don't know that. You cannot whistle? I
can't whistle. Is that true? I don't have never seen this movie. When I was a kid in camp, they
taught us these old songs from the 50s as we trudged up the Appalachian Mountains, and we had
to sing Comet. It makes your teeth turn green, Comet. It tastes like Vaseline, Comet. Make you
vomit, so drink your Comet, and vomit today. And then it'd be like, again. And we would do it again.
I climbed the Presidential Mountain Range, just seeing that song, not knowing what it was,
how it, why? Why? Just because. And then you learned later that it was from that movie.
That's funny. That's funny. Hey, do you know this song? You reminded me of the song,
We're on the Upward Trail. We're on the Upward Trail. Singing, singing, everybody singing as we
go. That would have been a more legit version of the marching song. Yes, I suppose. Now,
where does that song come from? Because you've confused us once again. And also,
how do you feel about being Conan O'Brien? My God's sake, my name is Jeff Goldman, and I feel
being here with you now as if I'm revealing myself to myself, and
and I feel utterly drenched and purged. Okay.
Now, that's from a kind of an homage to a movie line also. That's not my originality
and my unconventionality. Why don't you turn my podcast into a kooky trivia show? I love it.
That's what you've done. All right, testing, testing, one, two, three, testing, testing,
bumblebee, testing, testing, all day long, we sing the testing, testing song. Three, two, one.
Why can't you do anything normally? I don't know. Why can't anything just be normal?
I don't know. Ask Michelangelo. Here we go. Three, two, three. The Ninja Turtle.
Yeah, that's who I meant. Okay. The best of the Ninja Turtles. Three, two, one. I'm a Leonardo
guy. Are you? And action. Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, the podcast that
gives and gives until it can't give no more. What's it giving? I don't know. I think it's
spreading disease. It's spreading disease. This is a fantastic episode. I never say that up front,
but we know for a fact because we bring to you today the amazing Jeff Goldblum, a force of
nature, a star. And I don't mean a star in the sense of a Hollywood star. He certainly is that,
but he is a celestial event, in my opinion. He really is. So this interview that we have,
I'm told, Matt, that you barely touch this one. Sometimes you do little edits and tweaks.
I do. They're, occasionally, a guest will be on and they start to go into, you know,
very inappropriate rant and we have to take it out. Occasionally, there's, you know,
repeated stories or something through just natural conversation that I'll pull out.
You're not missing anything as a listener from the things I'm pulling out. Right. But this one,
it couldn't have any editing because it's music. It's a symphony. And I also always take out a
little mouth noises and clicks, but Jeff Goldblum has this repeating feline slurp.
And it's just, I couldn't touch it. It would be like going, like you said, going to Michelangelo
and editing his Sistine Chapel. Yeah. Well, again, so not Michelangelo,
the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. No, I still mean him. He was a wonderful painter.
Because he also worked on the Sistine Chapel. Yeah. So it must be tough technically to edit
a man who's constantly making low purring sounds because how do you, you can't do an edit. I speak
and then I stop and there's nothing. But Jeff Goldblum, even when he's not speaking.
Well, you can do a crossfade and you can blend one sexual grumble into the next,
but I would never do that. Like, who am I to censor his sexual rumblings, his subsonic
sexual rumblings. I love that you called it, first of all, sexual grumbling, which made it
sound like a grumpy guy who's in a sexual mood, you know? I don't even know how that sounds.
It's like, oh, yeah, I'd like to do it with somebody right now. These kids today. I didn't have so
much to do. I didn't have to do and I have to do the yard first, but I'd like to do it with someone.
I don't know what that means, but I'm, yeah, there's not much to say. When you have
Jeff Goldblum and you've managed to capture Jeff Goldblum in the wild and you get it to talk,
it's an event. It's a real event. And to that point, this introduction is about the interview.
The interview itself is something like, I think, 70 minutes long. And we do a segment at the end
of this episode where we just talk about how wonderful that interview was. So this is an
all Goldblum episode. Yeah. And you know what? When I say all Goldblum, I don't hear one complaint.
No. No one's going to stop me on the street and say that was too much Goldblum.
And set your filters, your Goldblum filters to high because you want to get all the Goldblum as
it comes to it. Yeah. Was it 70 minutes? Just the part where he goes, my name is Jeff Goldblum.
And I feel like that alone was like 45 minutes. So the listeners will have already heard that
moment. Yeah. And that was, I think, three minutes and 46 seconds for him to say, hi, my name is
Jeff Goldblum. And ultimately, I feel, I think he said drenched, something like drained and drenched.
All I know is that once it was over, I had no memory of what had happened. I knew that I had,
you know, had an orgasmic high, but I didn't know what happened. Yeah. And I think I put it out to
the listeners, listen to this Jeff Goldblum interview. And afterwards, I doubt anyone's
going to know what was said. I don't, you guys said so many names of shows and so many actors
I had never heard of. And all three of you were like, oh my God, that guy was the best. Like,
it was just like constant splooging over like 70s. Okay, let's clean it up a bit. Obscure shows.
Okay. Come on. You guys, you were just doing a whole sex thing about grumblings. Sex, a grumpy
sexual guy. And you're telling me to clean it up because I didn't say, I didn't say splooge. I
didn't talk about it. You guys did all the whole interview. It's true. I mean, just saying the
facts there. That's true. We did. Yeah. You changed that to squeegee and edit. No. I would just become
squeegee. You guys were just squeegeeing each other. That's, to me, feels erotic. I wouldn't say
each other. I said, you were just, every time someone would say, oh yeah, do you remember this
one actor who was in one show for three episodes, you were like, oh my God, that guy was the best
guy I've ever heard of in my life. That's what I, that's right. Who's splooging around you that talks
that way. I've never, that's not what it's, that didn't at all sound like a guy who was about to
ejaculate. That in no way, your guy was about to ejaculate. It's like, yeah, so anyway, I'm going
to go get a sandwich and, oh my God, I just came. Who the fuck is that guy? You've been hanging out
with Bruno the splooger. Yeah. He just has orgasms when he least expects it. Anyway, so I think what
we're going to do is get a guy in here to rivet the beam. You need a good riveter because the
rivets have to be hot too because they're going to go into the eye. Oh God. Oh, fuck. Some people
have narcolepsy. I got splooge ellipses. Oh, I got splooge ellipses. I don't know. This year,
I think the Mets are going to go all the way. I'll tell you what it is. It's infielding. If you
can keep the ball in the infield. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. I had to take my earphones off. Oh, fuck. I
was talking about infielding. I thought I was safe. Oh, Jesus. I love this guy. Yeah. Bruno
the splooge. You're listening to Bruno the splooge on KXW9. All right. Well, anyway, let's do this.
Let's do this thing. Strap yourselves in. My guest today is an actor who has starred in such movies
as Jurassic Park, Independence Day, and Thor Ragnarok. Now he's reprising his role as Dr. Ian
Malcolm in the highly anticipated movie Jurassic World Dominion. To say I'm excited is insane
because it's beyond that. Delighted, excited, orgasmic.
To chat with him today, Jeff Goldblum. Welcome.
Lord, I have to tell you, this is the inaugural podcast in our new studio
with a genuine celebrity. We did a little messing around and testing beforehand,
but you- Genuine. Genuine. That pronunciation. That's how I say it. You did Music Man at one
point. Oh, I wish I had. I know you did. I know you did. Trumpet. Yes. Well, you know very well.
You're in that movie. So listen, I must tell you that I can't think of a better person to start this
off with than you. You know that you and I have something, a certain freeze on. Admit it. Admit
it. We have something. Yes, yes we do. No, and I will- A freeze on. You know what that means.
I don't. I think it's French and it means we're in constant culmination. The way you're moving.
You're moving like a lascivious snake. Bring it out. No, you are. I've interviewed you many
times. You're one of my favorite people to talk to because you have an animalistic quality.
Yes. And I mean that in the nicest way. Which animal? Well, I don't know. It would be a reptile,
I believe. I think a panther. No, no, no, no, no. Because it has a long darting tongue. I know that
he can hit a fly at great lengths. You are a combination of animals. You are a panther,
but you are also a lizard. Of course, the fly. We must add the fly in there.
You just reminded me. I had- Do you remember your dreams? I had a dream last night. I wrote down
some of it, but I didn't remember until just this moment this thing about the tongue. Somebody
last night in my dream had a tongue that was very, very long and it came out completely. It
they, he- The tongue detached from the mouth completely. It was a detachable long tongue. Yes.
You know, apropos of nothing. Well, first of all-
Of interest to nobody, but you just, but that's true. And I had- I forgot what the hell am I
doing with that. The, yes, yes. I wrote these down madly as I, before I forgot this morning.
That's your dream. This is your dream. Some of my dreams. Yes, some of my dreams. Okay, let me
pause for a minute. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Goldblum, esteemed actor, is about to, he's
related, dream that he had last night and I can see that he's written it down. It looks like in
Hebrew. I don't understand. Your handwriting is very bizarre. Wow. Do you speak Hebrew?
It's true. It's very strange. It's- Yeah, yeah, it is. You can't read that. It's- Oh, yeah.
My dad was a doctor like your dad was. Yeah, it's like Sanskrit. It's crazy. I inherited his
thing. No, but that's what I wrote down. That's right. Should we hear it?
Yes, we hear the dream. Yeah, you can. But I did just remember that no kidding, that tongue part
of it. That was also last night. There's nothing funny about these, but it may open a portal into
our subconscious, all of us. Yes, let's hope so. So Robert Altman, you remember him. Yeah, the great
director, Robert Altman. I worked with him a few times. Name-dropper. Well, I know. I know.
No, sorry. In any case, he was, he appeared in my dream. We were kind of in a hospital
situation or something, and he appeared all of a sudden to my astonishment delight, alive.
He's now dead, low these several years. But he was alive, young and radiant with his,
I think they were his sons, and they were kind of sneaking him in and out of this thing. And I
said, look at you, because I guess I attuited right. I inferred right away he had faked his death
for some reason. He seemed sly and delighted, and it was now our secret. And he said, yes,
be prepared for me to stay at your house. Something like that. And then they left.
That was the dream. That was one sequence. That's that sequence. The second sequence
was, listen to this, I was in some kind of strange
but heavy equipment pod that was delivering us
up a mountain, the outside of to view a mountain.
And it was the Alps.
I think it was the Alps of some kind,
it's the Swiss Alps.
You're in some kind of craft viewing the Alps.
Yes, and each of us in a separate pod,
my wife, Emily, was in a pod a little bit away from me,
and we were all experiencing this separately.
And but we could see a wonderful view of these mountains
as they got higher and higher.
And it was like the highest peak on earth.
As we got further, we saw these old castles
kind of, you know, places.
And that was amazing and wonderful.
Then we got higher and higher until finally
it kind of leveled up.
And we knew we were at the top of the world.
And then, and it was amazing and everybody was kind of,
oh, you know, in awe.
And then before it started down the other side,
like a roller coaster, we were like that.
And then it started.
And it was harrowing, you know, ride that seemed like that.
I kind of retreated inside an inner compartment
in this pod, in kind of a bathroom.
And then I said, I'm missing it.
I thought to myself, I'm missing it.
So I went back up and kind of got some of it.
That was it.
And then it was over.
We all, I missed my wife, I missed the group.
And I seemed to be by myself left behind somehow,
couldn't find them.
So I was like left behind.
That's the second part of the dream.
Okay, kind of.
Yes, let me say quickly.
Freud had this theory that dreams have meaning.
And we now know that Freud was wrong.
That has no meaning.
This is insanity.
There's no, there's nothing that opened no portal.
There's nothing there.
Robert Altman returns from the dead
and wants to stay at your home.
And he's being sneak in, you're in a hospital.
Then you're in a pod, you're observing the Alps.
You go up one side and down the other
after spending a brief interval in the bathroom.
What's the last one?
The last one, this may make sense of the whole thing.
I was doing kind of a talk show or a podcast of some kind.
Yeah, it's not curious to think that I was already.
Some kind, I guess there are so many.
Thinking.
None would come to the mind of a Jeff Goldblum.
None like this.
This is uniquely tippity-toppity.
That's how it relates to the second one.
This is the Crest, this is the summit.
Very nice.
A podcastory.
Thank you.
Podcastory.
We are the summit of podcastories, her.
The, and so I, but I was gonna perform in some way
or being asked to perform.
I wasn't kind of prepared or happy about it.
And then the woman producer type, you know,
laid on me some things that I wasn't prepared for.
She said, oh yeah, you're gonna have,
you're gonna be talking to Diane Keaton and Ron Howard.
And we're gonna try to get you to get him to dance.
And I said, nothing's right.
The microphone isn't right.
I have the pen.
I have nothing, there's nothing right.
And how long am I gonna do this?
I said, didn't know.
She said, oh, another, you know, a couple of hours.
Well, that's all together.
That's five hours.
That's two, that's, so it's, this is like a steady job.
This is like a full-time job, right?
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Well, okay.
I was not happy about it.
Well, tell you what, so you had a dream the night
before coming here about doing a long podcast
with a red-haired celebrity, Ron Howard.
And Diane Keaton, aka Sonam of Sessian.
Oh, so nice.
And yes, yes, Sessian, yeah.
And then finally, I said, there was a guy
with great, big, bushy eyebrows.
Let's see if I'm prescient at all.
No, no. Must be me.
I mean, I trim them, but they could comb
into my hairline if I needed them to.
No kidding.
Well, he was back.
And I said, what's your, I said, what's your name?
Yes, well, I want to learn everybody's name first.
And last, he said, last, he was kind of, you know,
taking it back by that.
And then I said, yes.
And there was a big crew around.
And I said, yes, I think I should learn everybody's name.
In fact, I think if it were up to me,
we'd all be wearing name tags.
They seem to be happy about that.
That's about all of that.
That's that drink.
Now listen, don't lose that sheet of paper.
Okay.
We can't have that lost to time.
Okay.
We need to frame that.
Yeah, that is, you know, here's what I'll say about you,
Jeff, I never know what you're going to say.
I never know what you're going to do.
You are feral.
You are a man that runs on instinct.
You don't, and you're very much, I think, attuned.
You should see the faces he's making right now.
You're very much attuned to the universe.
And I feel like you are constantly in the now.
Is this correct?
I aspire to presence.
And yes, I'd like to be, you know,
I'd like to be here and now, that would be great.
Yeah.
Yes, and you've made, you've devoted your life
to the technology of the here and now, I believe.
Isn't that also correct?
Well, I don't think I have at all.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I've...
You do so, you don't deny it.
Okay, all right.
By the way, here, this, let me mention something.
You know, I did, there is such a thing as,
you go to, I don't know whether you go to therapists
and you've talked about dreams or interested in dreams,
but there's a kind of, there's a thing called dream work.
This may be of no interest to you,
but there's a thing that occurs to me.
There's a thing called dream work whereby this may not seem
like it has any relevance to anything or makes any sense.
But there are those who think, and I did it once,
with a good teacher, Sandra Seacat,
that Laura Dern turned me on to,
whom Laura Dern turned me on to,
that you go to bed before the night of a,
before you need an answer to something.
Say, dear inner self, you write a letter,
please give me an answer to something about this character
that I'm playing or my life or aspect of this relationship.
And you have a dream.
And then you go to this dream coach and they go,
and you go, well, here's what it is.
I wrote it down.
It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the play
or ba-ga-ga.
And they go, well, not at first, but how about this?
And they open you up to consider the possibilities
of how your subconscious may be informing your activities
and your questions.
What do you think of that?
My mother-in-law, a lovely woman and very smart woman,
is a therapist.
Liza's mom.
Yeah, Liza's mom.
And she believes that dreams have, all dreams have meaning.
If you have a dream and you tell her,
you know, she starts to pick it apart,
I'm often having dreams that I defy anyone to make sense of.
Because it just seems like random mush.
It really does.
It's just, and then I realize that in most of my life,
I'm speaking in random mush.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, so maybe they're related.
Maybe they are related.
Yeah, and you get fertile material in your dream life,
or not, you know, I don't know about this.
I'm not advocating for one.
I don't know how I feel about it.
If you tell me, dreams are just a kind of a weird,
you know, discharge of your nocturnal, you know, something.
Well, no, there are nocturnal discharges.
That's a separate category.
Yes, yes.
Well, there are.
They're just frankly are.
I know there are, yeah.
What's up?
I just don't think we need to bring them up.
No.
No, no, I wasn't gonna bring them up.
I was just gonna say it's a common term,
nocturnal discharge, and I wanted to make sure
that people didn't misunderstand what Jeff was saying,
that you are separating the two.
Right.
Yes, yes, exactly.
And if we were not on air,
and I were more given to the ribald.
Or ribald.
Or ribald.
Oh, I don't know.
What do you think?
Well, he said genuine.
Yeah, genuine.
I'm allowed to, I, as the host of the show,
I'm allowed to.
Make up your own.
Make up the final laws on all pronunciations.
Really?
But please, continue way.
Well, I don't know.
So, well, my point is that I'm not gonna continue
into something about the whole thing
that I just thought of.
I'd love it if you would.
Yeah, yeah, don't be afraid of being ribald.
We are all adults here.
And I will say this is a safe space.
Yeah.
All right.
No, I shouldn't.
Well, you know, yes, yes.
When I was young, you know, 12, 13,
I think it happened.
Anyway, that's all I'll say.
And you know.
Well, that seems young, is all I'm gonna say.
Really?
Yes.
What?
I was 37.
Oh, God.
Yes.
Congratulations.
So awkward.
No, no, I was really watching them wrap up Seinfeld
and I just, it happened.
I'm sorry.
That's very good.
I'm a late bloomer, I am.
You know, you have.
Speak like Yoda.
Yeah, I know.
I'm a late bloomer, I am.
I'm a late bloomer, I am.
Discharge late, it can't.
3,000 years old I was.
Seattle.
By the way.
By the way, I'm such big fans of yours.
I've been watching a lot of,
not just for my conscientious research purposes,
but just for my own entertainment.
Often I go to YouTube and see,
I've seen hours and hours and hours of your content.
Foolishness.
I like to call it.
Everything.
Oh, that's nice.
I like to think of you out there watching it.
I really am.
So I know, I know.
You know what I think is something
that makes me very happy is that
none of our comedy was ever really about anything.
No, that's for sure.
So you can see something from 25 years ago
and it doesn't relate to any specific topical thing
in the news.
And other than the fact that my head
hasn't rotted yet in those clips.
People can laugh at them all over again,
which makes me happy.
Uh-oh, you put on your specs.
He's examining your rotting head.
What are you examining my right head?
Now that you brought it up,
you all look great, you know, just great.
Oh, please, you can tell that this,
I have one of those Irish heads
that bloats as it gets older.
You've said it, I know.
No, this is true, you know.
You leave a gourd, you leave a gourd in the sun long enough.
And then you wake up and then winter comes
and you have yourself a conan.
That's what happens over time.
But you, I will say this,
I love talking to you because you're staring at me
and you're examining every-
I like your glasses.
I like your glasses.
You know why?
You know why I like-
Last we had a conversation,
I think I introduced you to these.
You did, and now I will admit freely
that my style guru and my lifestyle guru
is Mr. Jeff Goldberg.
How can it not be?
And I'll tell you why.
He is a tall, good-looking drink of water
and whenever he's wearing something,
I think, well, wait a minute,
we have somewhat similar, well, hold on.
Okay.
This one is about to really correct me.
Let's say Jeff had been in an accident at some point,
then Jeff and I would be very similar.
That's all I'm saying.
You guys have very different vibes.
No, I'm not talking about the vibes.
I'm talking just about when he is a tall man
and he knows how to dress.
Right.
And I love so.
During commercial breaks, often, often,
when he was on the show,
people always wonder, what do you talk about with people?
I can always tell you what I'm talking about
with Jeff in a commercial break.
I go right to, oh my God, that those shoes,
and I have large feet and you have large feet
and he goes like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh my, oh my boy.
Oh, oh yes, yes, oh.
And then so I remembered once you came out
and you were wearing these wonderful glasses
that you really carried off well.
And I said, I must wear those glasses.
And I asked you and you acted as if you were telling me
where the secret ring was
that would unlock the universe.
You went, oh, oh, oh, oh my boy.
Oh yes, yes, Jacques, Jacques-Marie.
What is it, LeMage?
Jacques-Marie-Mage, yeah.
Yeah, Jacques-Marie-Mage.
Oh, he said, oh my boy, I'll call ahead, I'll call ahead.
And then you had to describe going downtown
and there's a secret knock and a corridor and a passageway.
And sure enough, they're the greatest glasses.
How'd you get them?
Did you go to see Jerome?
I went with Sona.
Sona came with me.
You went to Jerome?
Yes.
Oh yeah.
He greeted you and met you and showed you everything.
Oh, he was wonderful.
Everybody was wonderful.
But I mean, I have done this several times.
You once, we were doing something together
that was not my project and not your project.
We were recording something together.
I remember the day.
I do.
And you walked in and I always couldn't,
I could never find jeans.
I have a very unusual build, I'll say.
And, oh, come on.
Anyway.
What the sound is.
Sorry.
What's your instinct?
What's your leg?
We have a long leg.
You have a fine leg, I think.
What's your instinct?
I have a very long leg.
We'll say it together.
Ready?
Here's our instinct.
One, two, three, 36.
36.
I'm a 36.
What is that?
Yeah.
Is it really?
No, I said you were a 30.
Well, I was afraid.
I was afraid to go.
I have a very, I have a long inseam.
And so I, so anyway, I see this gentleman come in
and he's wearing these amazing jeans.
And I said, oh my God, Jeff,
where'd you get those jeans?
I said, oh, oh, well, oh, my boy.
Oh, my boy.
You said, oh, my boy.
Oh, my boy.
You said it.
Oh, good.
Oh, and you went, oh, me, oh, my boy,
you simply must, me, oh.
And then you said, and then you said,
and then you said, I'll never forget.
You said, the Schaefer Garment Hotel.
That's right.
And it's this place.
Yeah, you said, oh, the Schaefer Garment Hotel.
And I go there and you said, just go, just go.
So I go, and of course, it's the coolest people in the world
and they have like an old denim machine.
What?
It's like a John Wick hotel, but for clothes?
Yes.
Yes, it is.
It's the John Wick hotel except just for jeans.
Oh, my.
And how about the hat maker in the back?
There's a guy there wearing like slashes hat
and he's like, I'll make you one of these.
And I went, well, if I can carry that off,
there's a dog that's in the store.
Yeah, that's right.
Do you know who I ran into there once?
I was with Emily.
We went there to pick up a pair of jeans or a hat
or something and it was just us and Bob Dylan.
Oh, my God.
Yes, because he got his hats from that guy.
I saw him out of the corner of my eye.
I kept, I had an important business.
I was talking about hat and he came in
and before I could say anything to him, he left.
But I think Emily, I don't know if she said anything.
Wait, you didn't go up to him?
No, no, I wish I had.
I think I, I mean, I've told this before,
but I met him once.
I got pushed to the front of the,
I was, I went to see some concert of his
and I was backstage and someone pushed me
to the front of a line and there he was,
the great Bob Dylan.
And it's my one chance to meet him.
And he, all of his conversation stopped
and Bob Dylan looked at me and he went,
I know you from the TV.
My first.
That's true, it's true.
The TV, he said, I know you from the TV.
And just then the other person backstage
was Vice President Al Gore.
And so all I hear is, I know you from the TV.
And then I hear, Conan, Conan, it's me, Al Gore.
And I'm like, what?
What is this event?
And I go, what?
We're all there for, we're all there for a concert
to see Bob Dylan perform and he goes like,
I love rock and roll, you know.
And suddenly he's talking to me
and I see Bob Dylan scuttle away.
I was cop blocked with Bob Dylan
by Vice President Al Gore.
That's a true story.
If you had told me that that wasn't a true story,
but that was a dream you had last night
would be just as credible.
Yeah. And then trust me,
I wanted to detach Gore's tongue from his body
to get him to stop yapping at me.
No, I'm sorry.
You know, I'll do respect to the former Vice President
and of course a leading figure in climate prevention change.
It's another nocturnal emission happening.
Yeah.
You know what?
He does this to me.
Jeff Gollum does this to me.
You're wrong.
He unmans me.
Yeah.
You're just bewitching and this is joyous.
Yes.
When I'm around you,
uh-oh, look at him take a sip.
Is it really something?
Everything he does, he's perfection.
Yes.
You just want to take a sip
and it's like there's a golden liquid in there,
but I know it's just something...
Okay, looks like ginger ale or rum, I don't know.
No, it's some green tea that they made for me here.
But I know how you despise ice drinks.
Oh!
Of course, I heard that whole,
I've seen every, I've heard every episode.
Every single one.
I don't know if we should be excited or horrified
that you're coming here knowing darkness.
I know everything, everything.
I have to say, Jeff, you know, we really are an awful lot.
You can do better than us, Jeff.
You know what?
You can sip any day because everything you do...
Listen, listen.
Listen, listen.
Oh my God.
That is Jeff Gollum sipping.
Oh my God, you're the best.
You know, you know what's interesting to me?
There is a, there's a sensuality that you exude
about, you see, even with the smallest gestures,
a sensuality, and then I find,
and I'm quite comfortable in my sexuality,
but I find that when I'm around you,
I'm open for anything.
I really am.
I am, I'm just saying that.
I feel the same.
And Matt is as well.
We're just up for it.
I'd like to offer myself, this is a sacrifice in some way.
Wait, you mean like if Jeff invited you
to like a weird sex party, you'd be like, oh.
You know how, you know how uptight I am.
Yes, that's why I'm so proud.
But if Jeff Gollum said,
oh, this, come with me into this special sanctum
and I want you to introduce me to,
introduce you to my secret friends,
and it's gonna be,
but first you must apply this wax and oil.
I would do it.
I would do it because he's that.
And it's gonna be Diane Keaton,
Ron Howard, and Robert Altman.
And Bob Dylan in Al Gore.
And Bob Dylan's gonna see me and go,
I know you from the TV.
I just don't know you in a whole different way.
And then I'm just about to get it on with Bob Dylan
when I get to hear Conan, Conan.
Conan.
Sweet, Vice President Al Gore.
Very erotic.
Yeah.
Well, this little packet that we're in,
don't you love this?
Is this the first date?
This is the first time, yeah.
Well, I love this blue velvet purse that we're in.
It's like a sex panic room.
What?
I don't know.
Sex panic.
With microphone.
Have you ever been in a sex panic?
It's a sex, I have been in a sex panic myself.
See, that's the problem.
That's why I envy you is,
I don't think Jeff would ever be in a sex panic.
Jeff Cobain would never be in a sex panic.
I am in a constant,
even when there's nothing sexual happening,
I'm in a sex panic.
I'm constantly in my own head.
Well, he's the antidote
because he could be a sex bomb to your sex panic.
This is not gonna happen.
A sex whisper.
Yes, sex whisper.
A sex whisper.
Sex bomb.
Sex bomb.
Who did that song?
Sex bomb.
It wasn't bomb, but it was bomb.
Oh, yeah.
Sex bomb.
Was it B-52s?
No, it was a big hit in Europe particularly
during these couple of years that I remember.
Sex bomb.
Sex bomb.
You only remember a couple of years.
I think we got it.
No, during these couple,
this is when it was a hit.
He's looking it up.
When it was a hit,
I was in Europe making a movie
and it was on all the time,
but I don't think it made its way across the pond.
I don't think it did either.
I know that bomb.
Sex bomb.
And there was a video.
I'll give you a clue.
That same singer is not unusual.
Oh, Tom Jones?
Yeah, that's right.
Tom Jones, exactly.
What James Bond?
Thunderball.
Oh, yeah.
You have a James Bond question.
I think okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
You'll need it.
It is, it is, it is.
And they call it Thunderball.
And they strike strikes like Thunderball.
Do you know that Johnny Cash
did a rejected Thunderball theme song?
I did not know that.
I didn't know that.
He unsolicited, sent it to them
and they went, we never asked for this song.
It was not that song, it was his own song.
You know, can I say something?
And this is to be,
cause I know a lot about Johnny Cash.
I revere him.
He sent in a lot of unsolicited songs.
He was constantly sending in like Pearl Shampoo,
Alpo Dog Food.
He was constantly, yeah, he was constantly sending in,
I've got a different way you could go with that song.
Purina Kat Chow, Chow, Chow, Chow.
I can't even, I believed you for a second
and now I feel really dumb.
I was like, oh, you're kidding.
You know the best part of waking up
is limping in your cup.
You know that's sent to them.
He, Johnny Cash first sent it in.
Sure.
And he did it in that Johnny Cash way.
Yeah, he first sang that song,
you look sharp,
feel sharp,
be sharp,
ring a burn and fire.
Ring a burn,
down, down, down, a burn, ring a fire.
A burn and burn.
On Band-Aids.
Cause Band-Aids stuck on me.
He did the Oscar Mayer song.
Da.
Babylonia has a second name, it's O-S-E-A-R.
Babylonia has a second name.
Oh, and you know what, I mean.
No, no, no, why's it not?
You know what the sad,
last thing he did before he passed away
was the car for kids jingle.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
I don't know that jingle.
Sing it.
Is it 1-800 cars for kids?
Something like that.
Oh, that, okay, yeah.
But I think the Oscar Mayer thing was,
I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
Oh, I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
That's what I'd really like to be.
I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
Now all the kids would be in love with me.
I fell into a burn and ring of fire.
Yeah.
Just so you know, to be fair,
that most jingles that you love
were written by Johnny Cash.
That's true.
Unsolicited, he would just send them in.
Yeah, for like.
But he did do the thunder ball.
That's how we got started.
Dropping mental breadcrumbs,
he did send in the thunder, you say.
And it sounds like a typical Johnny Cash song,
except it has kind of like John Berry horns in it.
It's really something.
I love that, I love that thunder ball.
I was right at the right age for that
because I had consumed Dr. Noe
from Rush with Love, gold finger.
I was so ready for thunder ball.
Boy, that was great.
Is he your favorite bond of all time?
Ah, yeah.
I'm gonna say for me, it's Sean Connery,
but Daniel Craig is right there with him
and I thought no one could do that.
I thought no one could.
Sean Connery was so incredible.
Fantastic.
When he peaked, when he went to the summit of the Alps,
after thunder ball, I think,
nothing against Sean Connery, those movies,
it started to.
He was phonin' it in a bit.
Wither, yeah.
And by the time he got to Jill St. John and...
Diamonds are forever.
Diamonds forever.
Yeah, you know, not my favorite.
And then...
I've never been happier in my life right now.
I know you're, this is right up your alley.
This is, I'll tell you,
Matt Gurley is a bond fanatic
and a huge Jeff Goldblum fan.
Now he's in a room, they've both come together
and he's having a nocturnal emission.
Oh my God, there's so many emissions happening.
Diurnal emission all day long here.
This is really.
It what?
Yeah.
The what, the what?
Diurnal?
Diurnal.
Oh, is that the daytime?
Diurnal?
I believe so.
Di, diurnal, di, diurnal, diurnal, diurnal, diurnal.
I believe, I know that song.
Johnny Cash first sent that in.
Okay, listen.
You have.
Yes.
He submitted all my bar mitzvah song.
Oh yeah, you know what?
You know what makes perfect?
You know what makes perfect?
I fell into a burning ring of.
It's becoming more Elvis.
It's becoming more Elvis on Johnny Cash.
I never said I was the perfect, you know.
Oh my God.
You know, you are, you are a terrific jazz musician
and I'm bringing this up for a reason.
I think to understand Jeff Goldblum,
which is impossible,
but to really understand what makes this man tick,
I think is your love of jazz.
You are constantly improvising in the moment
and tuned into that crazy galaxy
that real jazz musicians are tuned into.
And a good friend of mine just went
and saw you perform the other night
and said that you were fantastic.
Really?
That's very nice.
That's very encouraging.
Thank you.
Yeah, we played the Disney concert hall.
Yes.
Oh my God.
Yeah, two, couple of nights ago.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is, am I, am I correct that,
that there's something about music,
you're, I just feel like you're in tune
with some jazz musical score all the time.
Yeah.
Is that, do you think that's,
and this is a compliment, by the way.
Thank you so much.
I like, well, I aspire to it.
I'm a humble student of jazz
and of the technology of presence
in all its various ramifications
in the podcast world and the jazz world
and the musical world and everything.
Oh, I had thought, by the way,
aren't there, hasn't anybody sung songs,
a snippet of song about friendship
as you're still looking for friends?
By the way, how many friends do you need?
You've been looking for,
how long have you been looking for friends now?
How many have you found by this time?
Well, here are.
Jeff, they don't often take.
That's the problem.
I am, I don't wear well over time.
That's one of the problems.
Yeah, but I feel that we are, you know,
sometimes plants, they have to graft,
they have to graft into each other,
is what you're saying.
Yes, I'm right there with you.
I think we have,
We need to graft into each other.
Yes, we need to very, very much.
Yeah, but think of, do you know any songs
about friendship?
Well, the song that, you know, we are gonna be friends,
that White Stripes did, Jack White,
he's a good friend of mine,
and that's the song I wanted.
Name-dropper.
Yes.
He wrote the song with Jeff Altman.
Oh, Jeff Altman.
Robert Altman, sorry.
Oh, anyway.
Fall is here, hear the L.
You sing like a nightingale.
I love your voice.
When, you know, when you're not doing that,
you have a beautiful, authentic, conversational,
delightful voice.
Can I say something?
You must.
I'm always so self-conscious that I put trills
and foolishness in there.
But you just,
And I never just sing.
You just sang, and I loved it.
Yes.
Silent night.
No, he's gonna do a thing.
Oh, is that, I-
You're gonna do a thing.
Holy night.
All is calm.
Yeah, he's doing it again.
No, it's doing it again, right?
Yeah, he's doing it again.
All is bright.
Try to take all the,
Can't do it.
The bright part of it.
No.
No, no.
I mean, you can't be normal.
No, but you were just singing.
So sing that, whatever you wanna sing,
like the other voice, that's it.
Let's see.
You've got a friend, you know.
Oh, no, I can't sing that song.
How about the Jason Isbell song you sang to us
that time that you wrote?
Yeah.
What's that?
What's that?
Oh yeah.
How's that go?
It goes,
Never could be happy in the city at night.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't see the stars for the neon lights.
Beautiful.
Sidewalks dirty in the river's worse.
Underground trains all run in reverse.
Nobody here can dance like me.
Everybody claps on the one and the three.
Am I the last of my kind?
Am I the last of my kind?
That's the song.
Very moving, very beautiful.
Boy, you should do a whole album of songs that way.
I'd love to hear you do that.
He can't do it.
I can't do it.
You two are just locked in icons.
I know.
But can I tell you something, Jeff?
I couldn't, and I'm supposed to,
and I want to write a song with Amy Mann.
Yeah, I love Amy Mann.
We'll talk about it.
I adore Amy Mann.
I do too.
And I'm intimidated by Amy Mann's talent,
but we promised to write a song together.
And then the last thing she said to me,
I said, yeah, I'll do it.
And she said, you know, it's just gotta be something
like sincere and something that you really wanna say.
And I was like, oh, oh, that's not gonna happen.
You could do it.
No, I can't.
You can't.
Can you tell them please take over?
I was on the edge of my seat the entire time
you were singing,
because I thought he was gonna go into some bit
and like do something with your voice.
Things eventually become a bit.
It's a bit.
It's a, you're like joking around.
Well, who knows where it will be consumed
or how it should be presented.
But just for your own, just for, you know,
just do it.
I'd love to hear, just for me.
Yeah, me too.
And for us, I'd love to hear you do it.
And you don't have to jettison your
comedic force of nature.
You could be surprising and do one like that.
And one like that, and one like that.
But that's a very useful part of your toolbox,
in my opinion, and a very enjoyable one.
That's, well, that's very nice.
I'm curious about something
because we have so much in common,
not just our incredible height and physique,
and not just our successful,
incredibly successful careers, both of us,
as actors.
My point is that we both,
and you mentioned this earlier,
both of us, both of our fathers, doctors.
Yes, right.
And I don't know, there's this couple of similarities there.
I'm fascinated by this idea that sometimes
a salmon just knows it has to swim upstream.
I don't know why, but somehow you knew
when you were a kid,
that you needed to be an actor,
that you needed to be a performer.
I did, I did.
Yeah, around 10, you know,
we started to go to children's theater
and I was like, what are they doing?
Who is that?
What are they doing backstage?
I'd be very excited to go.
And then around ninth and 10th grades,
I went to this summer session
of Carnegie Mellon University
and took real lessons.
And, oh, no, but before that, yes,
I went to Chadda Music Day Camp around fifth grade
and was in this show.
And my dad had said,
if you have to find something you love to do,
that maybe is a key to your vocational choice wisely.
And that night they said, so how'd you like that?
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I liked it.
But I kept it secret because there was no, you know,
and I kept it secret.
I wanted to be an actor.
And certainly in school,
I was a well-behaved good boy
and nobody would have thought
that I would do anything like that,
except that I played piano here and there and that.
So that was it, yeah.
And he was a doctor, but I must say, I don't know.
What kind of doctor, by the way?
Internal medicine, kind of a family doctor.
Got it, got it.
But, you know, people, his patients loved him
and he would always kind of keep up on his studies
and this and that.
You know, he liked medicine, but early on,
supposedly the story goes,
he, when he wanted to decide what he was gonna do,
he was either gonna be a doctor or an actor.
He had the idea to be an actor.
And then he stuck his head in the back of a class
and thought to himself, this is out of my league,
whatever that meant.
So he was a doctor, but so he was a little bit tickled
when I-
Of course, yeah.
And he got to see you become Jeff Goldblum, the big deal.
You know, I'm not such a big deal,
not even a big deal now,
but he got to see me start to,
because I think started to happen quickly.
He died like in 83,
but around the time I did the big chill,
but he saw a few movies before that and some plays.
And I remember I did a play called City Sugar,
where I was the lead.
I was a radio guy in England with an English accent.
Steven Polyakov play called City Sugar.
And I did it at this Off-Broadway show.
He went to see, when he came backstage,
and he was not like this, he was burst into tears.
And through his arms around me.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, like that.
I know, I know.
Well, I can't relate.
Oh, I don't mean to interrupt,
but I just realized something that's,
speaking of when you knew you wanted to do something,
when I was a very young boy,
my dad took me to downtown LA,
because that's where he used to work.
First celebrity sighting was something being shot,
a warehouse door opens up, outruns Ben Vereen,
and then outruns Jeff Goldblum,
shooting 10-speed in brown.
Okay, and I was gonna bring this up,
that the first time we met,
I was, TV was our life preserver when we were kids.
And my brothers, Neil and Luke and I,
were really into what's the new show,
what's the new show,
and we're constantly looking for
what's the new show gonna be.
And it was a big deal back then.
Now people are bombarded with TV
and streaming all the time.
Back in the late 70s, early 80s,
there was a big deal like ABC is coming out
with its lineup in the fall,
and all summer you'd be excited.
You'd hear rumors about what it was gonna be,
and CBS is coming out with this,
and NBC is coming out with that.
And there was this show that we heard about
called 10-speed in brown shoe,
and I, my brothers and I watched it,
and it starred Ben Vereen,
and this guy I had never heard of before,
named Jeff Goldblum,
and it was fucking fantastic.
It was so good.
And I was like, who is that guy?
Who's that guy?
That guy's fantastic.
And then the show didn't last.
13 episodes as well.
It was fantastic.
Bring it back.
And Stephen J. Cannell,
who had done Rockford Files and many other things.
But I remember that.
And one of the greatest American hero.
The greatest American hero.
Yeah.
Well, I believe it or not,
I'm walkin' on air,
ba-da-da-da-da-da, so it's good, yep.
Please don't ask me to sing that one.
William Cat.
Johnny Cash first sent that in.
Oh, we were all walking on air.
So I, you know,
but it's funny that we all have,
it's so funny that you bring that up, Matt,
because that is the first time that I met Jeff Goldblum.
I'm using your full name,
just out of reverence.
You know, it would have been a couple of years
into the late night show that I met you.
And you've, you know, you've done, I mean, everything.
You'd have been in so many great movies.
And I went back into your dressing room
and I was like, 10 speed and brown shoe.
And I remembered you were,
you were like, oh yeah, 10 speed and brown shoe.
Cause I thought you might say, oh, well, who cares about that?
You know, I've moved on to so many other things.
And, but it was such, it really tickled me when I was a,
I don't know, it's like, how old would I have been?
14, 15?
Well, it was like 1980, I think.
So you were born in?
I was 16, 17.
16, 17.
I was seven when I saw you guys shooting that.
And I just was baffled by the cameras
and that you did it multiple times
and going, why are they doing it again and again?
Really, you were, how did you wind up there?
What, where?
My dad worked downtown
and he would take me to downtown quite a bit.
Downtown LA.
What did he do, your dad?
He was a division manager for the gas company.
Oh, I see.
Well, he also sold drugs.
He made your kingpin.
Yeah.
So downtown, no kidding.
And you just happened upon us shooting.
No kidding.
And I was, I was just blown away.
I remember, you know, it's so funny
when you think about these brushes with show business.
As we said earlier, I was so far removed from, you know,
show business and my childhood.
And then I'll never forget, my father came home one day
and he said, they're shooting a movie at my hospital,
the Peter Brent Brigham Hospital,
which is now Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.
It's a big hospital.
And he said, they're shooting a scene
right outside my office.
And we were like, they're shooting a movie in Boston?
Near my dad's, like right outside my dad's office?
That's impossible.
That can't be.
And so we rushed over there
and it was a scene where actor James Coburn,
oh, just has to walk out
and open a car door and get in it and shut the door.
And it, and he walked out, they go, and action.
And so James Coburn walks up and he walks up to the car
and it won't open and it won't open and they go, cut.
The car's been, someone had locked it with the keys inside.
So then we watched James Coburn just stand there
while three, like seven guys crowd around
and start with a coat hanger trying to open the door.
And I got to find out the name of this movie.
Cause I guess you could watch it.
What year would this have been?
This would have been like 1971, 72.
We could look that up.
We could find out.
And trying to lift up the door and they couldn't get it.
And I thought, this is movie making?
Wow, yeah.
What the hell is this?
Still, one is struck by that when you go to a movie
and there's all the little things going on.
Hey, I love James Coburn.
You know, I saw the first run of Iron Man Flint.
Oh my God.
And in like Flint.
Oh, we're back.
Yeah.
Do you remember how the telephone rang in Lee J Cobb's office?
Ba-ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
This was kind of almost, almost a take off on James Bond.
But not really.
I mean, it was very silly.
Derek Flint, Derek Flint.
Yeah.
And then Austin Power had kind of borrowed some things
like that kind of went from there.
What is the James Coburn movie?
I've got to find that out.
I'll bet.
Let me guess, let me guess.
After that, I think after that,
he did a movie called The President's Analyst.
It, you know, it could have been that.
Oh yeah.
You know, I remember him talking about it on talk shows.
I used to love talk shows when I was in Pittsburgh.
I used to tune into, it's in summer,
stay home all day and watch the Mike Douglas show.
Go from Mike Douglas to, you know,
Dinah Shore and then Merv Griffin.
And he used to come on,
remember he was kind of a counter-cultural hippie actor
that he used to come on with a turtleneck, you know,
or in a medallion or something like that.
And his act, he used to come on, not just talk,
he wanted to play the gong.
And he used to bring onto Carson a big, big gong
and go, buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh.
You know that, that was his act, you know.
We had, you know what I love in the tradition of just,
just to let people know that we did our best
during my late night run to keep the madness going.
You talk about, you know,
how people would just do strange things.
One of the strangest things we did once
was we just put out a salt lick on my show
to see if we could attract a celebrity.
And then you did it so nicely,
out of nowhere, just Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, just in the corner.
But he does it sort of like a, like a nervous-
Deer.
Fuck deer.
And he slowly approaches and I'm like,
oh, it looks like, it looks like Jeff Cobo,
shit, I don't want to be quiet.
And he came out and then he like sniffed, sniffed the salt lick.
And then you took a little lick.
I remember that being one of my favorite,
such a stupid, I don't care.
So James Coburn played the gong with Carson.
Yeah, let's see, let's see you have Jeff Goldblum.
What do we got for Coburn?
The Coburn is the Cary Treatment.
Cary Treatment is a 1972 American crime thriller film
by Blake Edwards, baseball.
Yes.
Takes place in Boston.
In Boston.
Dr. Peter Cary, played by James Coburn.
Yes.
He's a pathologist who moves to Boston
where he starts working.
Okay, well, I don't know it, but Blake Edwards, boy.
Well, guess what?
So this is another fun story.
My dad's there.
Well, this wasn't happened when I was there.
They kept shooting this right outside my dad's window
and he kept thinking, well, I could keep looking
on this microscope for a cure to a terrible disease
or I could go outside and hang out with these movie folk.
So he went outside and he's chatting and he can't believe it,
but Blake Edwards is there with his wife, Julie Andrews.
Oh.
And a friend of my dad's who doesn't know much
because he's always looking in a microscope
is talking to Blake Edwards.
And then he turned to Julie Andrews and said.
The friend of your dad's.
The friend of my dad's and said, now tell me, Miss,
what do you do?
Oh, no, oh, no.
And she said, well, I'm an actress as well.
And he went, well.
And then later on, people told him what he did.
And the guy, I think, put his head in a cyclotron.
It's like that scene from Notting Hill
when Julia Roberts comes in.
Yeah, yeah.
Hugh Grant's brother.
I know that reference.
Yes.
Not Hill.
There you go.
We're getting closer and closer to her references.
And when you said Julie Andrews, I was like, yeah,
she narrated Bridgerton.
So I know her.
And you know what?
Oh, my God.
Sound of music.
Sound of music.
I'm kidding.
You know, when the Thanksgiving Day parade,
when I lived in New York, we lived on the Upper West Side.
And my kids were crazy about seeing the parade go by.
And so I always take them.
They're little kids.
Do you see the parade?
And once I'm watching on the television
and we haven't gone down yet and the parade is going by,
and then they said, and here comes Julie Andrews.
I lost my fucking mind.
I'm at the time, you know, I'm whatever.
I'm a 46-year-old man.
I ran without my kids.
Oh, my God.
I ran all the way down.
They were like, where are you going?
Yes, I ran.
And I ran because I wanted to get down there fast.
And I saw her go by and I was like, it's Julie Andrews.
And I've been on TV at this point, you know, whatever,
12 years.
And I'm like, ah, Julie Andrews.
I mean, she didn't see me.
But.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Amazing.
How about the movie 10?
She's in the movie 10, of course, too.
But Sound of Music, I saw when it first came out.
You know, it was a big deal around that year.
And I showed it to our kids now.
I showed us.
We showed Sound of Music.
We haven't shown them many movies.
I'm going to show them.
They've never been to a movie theater,
but I think I'm going to take them to see a Jurassic World.
Your kids are almost seven and just turned five.
Oh, my God.
OK, so they're at such a great age.
And because of COVID, they've missed out
on some of these great experiences.
Like, going to a movie theater is so,
that was the biggest thing in the world that could happen to me
was to get to go to a movie theater and see a movie.
Really?
Yeah.
And so when I say to anyone in my family now,
hey, do you want to go see a movie?
And they're like, eh.
I don't know.
I'm like, I don't know.
What are you talking about?
It's because they can see anything they want at any time.
Right.
Oh, yeah, go to a movie theater.
I'm about to do.
I'm involved in this cycle of publicity
for Jurassic Park Dominion.
And one of the things we're encouraging people to do,
genuinely, on my part, is to go out and see it in the movies.
You know, of course.
And I made a list because of that.
I thought, oh, what are the best times I've ever
had in movie theaters in my life?
Because that's a way to talk about it.
And so I started to remember, and with the help of my sister
too, all the movies I saw, importantly, when I was a kid.
And she said, oh, remember this one.
And it's been a nostalgia blast.
So these are the movies that really blew you away?
Yes.
These are the ones we remember.
She and I used to go to.
They used to drop us off to the Leona Theater,
this big, beautiful jewel box of a three-tiered movie
palace in Pittsburgh.
In Pittsburgh.
West Home says, suburb of Pittsburgh.
Not downtown.
It's all suburb.
But they had this movie theater.
And we'd go for, you know, $0.25, $0.50 or something,
whatever tickets were.
Get popcorn with butter and salt and hot dogs.
Jeff Goldblum is about to read a list of his favorite movies.
This is Heaven.
The ones that made a big difference
that I can remember to this day.
Let's hear it.
OK, we saw.
See if any of these mean anything to you.
The absent-minded professor.
Yes.
You know, Fred McMurray, Flubberall,
that made a big impression on me.
The Blob.
Oh, the original.
Which I've seen recently.
Steve McQueen, very good.
His first movie, you know.
Now, of course, you'll know who was in all of these movies,
which we saw.
You know, we saw whatever that came to there.
But during this period, the 60s, in the early 60s,
the Bell Boy, Cinderfella, Disorderly, Orderly, Visitorial,
Planet, Gator Boy, Delinquent, Rockabye, Baby Night
Professor.
Yeah, loved it.
Then I got the chance to meet him.
Did you ever meet Jerry?
I did.
I got to meet him.
I got to interview him.
That's so interesting.
Well, we could talk all about that.
Well, did you meet Jerry?
Yes, I did.
I was going to play his son in that last movie that he did,
Augie Rose.
Augie Rose?
Augie Rose?
Oh, no, no.
Max Rose.
Max Rose, Max Rose.
And so I went to Vegas in order.
I was almost going to do it before I got something else
and couldn't.
And so I hung out with him in his office in Las Vegas.
How was he?
And bonded.
Amazing.
We could talk for, you know, amazing.
He'd made a big, he was big in my childhood.
And during this period, so I thrilled to meet him.
And he was, you know, as you know him at that stage,
great, you know, great and complicated.
Very complicated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, right.
But those movies, when we were seeing those movies,
Big Deal, do you know what this movie is, The Sterile Cuckoo?
No.
Liza Manella's first, Liza Manelli's first movie,
she plays a kind of a nerdy girl.
The Sterile Cuckoo.
The Sterile Cuckoo's coming.
Terrible name for a movie.
It is.
Nobody wants to, sterility is never something
that draws the masses.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on, come on, bring the family.
The Sterile Cuckoo.
That cuckoo's not having children.
How about this movie?
Who knows this?
I don't think you will.
Georgie Girl.
Oh, yeah.
We almost played her doll.
Georgie Girl.
Walking down the street so fancy free was played by.
Red Grave.
Lynn Redgrave, whom I worked with later, believe it or not.
Oh, well, Bridge on the River Kwai.
We saw the first viewing of.
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.
Yes.
I love that.
Hush, hush, sweet Charlotte.
How about Betty Davis and Joan Crawford together?
Gay Perry, P-U-R-E-E. An animated movie
about in an impressionistic style, French impressions
about cats.
And I think Robert Goulet did a voice.
You know, Dr. Noe from Rush with Love, Goldfinger,
Fantastic Iron Man, Flint.
I have Pink Panther, the first Pink Panther.
Now you've put movie theater, and there
was Peter Sellers, never seen before,
as Clousseau, Blake Edwards, unbelievable.
I remember the day we saw that.
Those movies changed my life.
Bobby D and I went, my best friend,
went to that theater to see Psycho,
first time in a run of Psycho, unbelievable.
I just spent some time with Jamie Lee Curtis in CinemaCon.
You know what's so great about, they don't do it anymore,
but there were these great promotional tricks
that they did back in the day to get people to come see movies.
And Alfred Hitchcock was a genius at this.
So when Psycho came out, he had ambulances
outside the theaters.
And he very much publicized, we're
going to have medical personnel available for people
who faint or have seizures during this terrifying movie.
And people went mad for it.
And there was a do not be late for this one, remember?
Yeah, do not be late.
You won't let you in after the first run.
Yeah, we won't let you in.
Do not tell your friends what happened to you.
Yes, exactly.
And he did all that stuff.
He did it with the birds.
He did.
He had all these great, I mean, what a great showman
he was in addition to being this incredible.
Birds was another movie we saw, first run.
Loved that day that we saw that.
But then we went, oh, I had a crush on this girl.
And I went on a field trip hoping to kind of be near her.
I had not made any headway.
When we saw Hard Day's Night, the, wow, that was incredible.
What girl did you have a crush on?
Stephanie Ignats.
Oh, I thought you said, oh, oh, OK.
I thought you meant you had a crush on a girl in the movie.
No, not in the movie.
Those were fellas.
They just had long hair.
No.
In ninth grade, in ninth grade.
No, Stephanie.
And she was going, so I was going to tag along, too.
Have you ever kept up with Stephanie Ignats?
You know, I am.
We have her here today.
Here she is.
A little bit.
Oh my god, look out, she's deranged.
Some 10 or 15 years after this period,
we got in touch and we saw each other.
She went out to California and, you know, I saw her.
OK, OK, you saw her, but she didn't see you.
You followed her from a distance.
Oh, no, no, not like that.
They saw each other.
Oh, OK.
He closes the deal.
What's like that?
No, no, no.
Oh, I'm making it clear.
What I do is I look them up and then I just,
I peer at them through shrubbery from 50 yards away.
Oh my god.
Yeah, that's my, when I say, oh,
I saw her, have you know what I mean?
Norman Bates, speaking of Norman Bates,
through a hole in the office wall.
He's got them all over this building.
It's so horrible.
I have to ask you, speaking of movies,
we have to talk about, because in Treasure Park
and this character that you played, Dr. Ian,
what's the last name?
Malcolm, that's right.
Yes, you, I mean, god, you nailed that character so much.
And now you're coming back and you're
assembling with the same people to bring this,
these people back to life.
Yes, sir.
So who else is with you?
And this is Laura Dern.
Laura Dern, of course.
The great Laura Dern, the great Sam Neal.
So the three of us from the first movie
are back together for the first time since then.
And we're reunited and have something
to do with in this story with Bryce Dallas Howard's character
and Chris Pratt's character.
But also B.D. Wong is back from the first one.
And Omar.
That's great.
Yeah, isn't that great?
And Omar C. from most recently.
And Daniela Ploneda and Justice Smith.
And wait a minute, wait a minute.
And new characters, DeWanda Wise, Mamadou Ache,
and Campbell Scott are in this.
Yeah, Elizabeth Sermon comes back.
So it's great.
I mean, this is something that I think
would be worthwhile for you to settle with for a second,
is that movies were such a big deal for you growing up.
You've now been in a bunch of movies,
and you think about Jurassic Park.
So many young people, that was an eye-opening experience
for them.
And you were a big part of it.
It's interesting how the loop closes in a strange way.
Isn't it?
It's fascinating.
I know it's a dreamy life that I've had.
I can't believe it.
I'm very grateful.
And it's amazing that I have got a chance
to be in some movies and some movies with people,
like I've said, that I saw early on.
It is amazing.
I have to say, that is something.
And I brought this up before.
But also, I've had a dreamy life and getting the chance
to just, to me, getting to interact with someone
I saw on a movie screen or a television set
when I was a child, nothing tops that.
And there are all these massive stars
that come along later on in life.
And it doesn't have the same effect
as meeting someone like a Dick Van Dyke
or meeting someone who was in a movie in a huge deal
when you were a kid, like Jerry Lewis or seeing a Julie
Andrews on a parade float go by.
And even though she's 50 yards away,
I can't believe that, oh, wait.
I saw you there as a child.
And now you're still here.
Life is magic.
Amazing.
Vincent Price, we saw some Vincent Price movies.
And who was in the fly, the first fly, which I saw back then.
I think I saw him in a Ralph's later.
You saw Vincent Price at a Ralph's?
I do believe so.
I think I went up to him.
He's like, yes.
He was picking up melons or something from Turkey.
Yeah, he was a big chef, you know.
Oh, my god.
It's too bad Bill Hader isn't here, because he does.
Oh, I love his.
Bill Hader does the best Vincent Price of all.
And he'd be going, you know, I don't do it.
But he'd be here doing Vincent Price at a Ralph's.
We should remind him of that.
Yeah.
You know, we should do.
We will be seeing him soon.
We should remind him of that.
Because Vincent Price at a Ralph's.
And I used to, you know, when I first moved out here to LA,
a long time ago in 1988, my brother Neil came out
and visited me.
And there was a Ralph's across the street.
And he kept seeing all these huge stars.
He saw Cesar Romero, the Joker.
And he'd come back and he'd go, I saw him.
And I'm like, what is he?
He was buying dog food at Ralph's.
He was always going to Ralph's and he would hang out there.
And he would go right up to them and go,
I loved you as the Joker.
Or, I saw Harry Morgan from Mash.
And then he would always tell me what they were buying.
He was buying a giant thing of beans.
It always never matched.
Like, I saw Cher.
What was she getting?
Industrial strength, toilet cleaner.
Oh, no, I didn't want to know that.
She would never.
She would never.
I was so crazy about the fraud.
I hadn't met anybody famous or who was in movies.
When I was a kid and the first couple of brushes I had,
who did I first?
We went to it on a vacation.
And who was staying at this hotel was Darren McGavin.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
He's great.
I was a nice stalker.
Yes.
I was like, do you think we'll see him at breakfast?
I never went up to him.
But I was just, when are we going to see him again?
You know.
He's the dad.
I am Christmas story.
In Christmas story, he's the dad.
But he's also one of the great.
He's also in The Natural.
Obviously, he's one of the villains in The Natural.
He's got a little funny guy in there.
But he did, I think, maybe my favorite show as a kid.
Colchak.
Was, he played Carl Colchak in The Night Stalker,
which was the scariest show on television.
It only ran, I mean, maybe it ran two seasons.
If that, it was not a success.
But it was such a scary show.
I have that on DVD.
Do you?
No, it's so good.
It's fantastic.
I've never seen them.
I don't know.
And Darren McGavin was fantastic.
And I got to, I don't think he ever did my show,
but I got to meet him once.
And yeah, my soul left my body.
I was so excited.
I couldn't believe I was meeting him.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
So, yeah, I'm back in this movie now.
And I have to run it out of time.
Yeah.
Come out June 10th.
You brought it up.
That's your from, I love that you went,
so I'm back in this movie and, well, da-da-da-da-da.
June 10th, you brought it up.
I love that.
I was just trying to remember where we got off that.
But next on my list was Diary of a Madman,
Vincent Price and Tomb of Ligia.
He was a big deal to us, you know,
some of those Roger Cormes.
I was a teenage Frankenstein.
I was a teenage werewolf.
Too hard, too horrible movies, but interesting.
Ega.
Did anyone ever do, I was a teenage teenager?
I'm just curious.
So it's been kind of meta, but I do it.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, it's a teenager who then turns into a teenager
who's just slightly older.
He's like 15 and he turns 17?
He turns into a 16-year-old.
Oh, OK.
He's a 15-year-old and he goes into a corner and it's like,
aah!
And then he comes out and he's a 16-year-old.
He can legally drive, but doesn't know how to.
Yeah, he can legally drive, but he can't,
but he has the same amount of acne.
What a terrible movie.
I think it's a great movie and I've got the right.
OK, no one's going to fight you.
Oh, yeah, well, you can have them.
I remember when TV shows would come out,
what you were talking about, when the new lineup.
Boy, I loved Friday nights when Wild, Wild West would come on.
Yes, huge.
Oh, boy.
Robert Conrad and Ross Martin who played.
Yep, Ross Martin.
Artemis Gordon.
Artemis Gordon.
Artemis Gordon, King Kong vs. Spidey.
We left that open for you, so you didn't take it.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
What, really?
What?
No, I don't know.
How about Gigo?
Nobody knows the movie Gigo.
I don't know.
Jackie Gleason.
Jackie Gleason.
He plays a mute dead kind of a village idiot.
Oh, it's great.
The first movie I ever cried at.
Oh, I guess.
It's heartbreaking, yeah.
I'm crying, hearing about it.
That's, you're mentioning a bunch of movies
that had a huge impact that I don't know.
You'll know this one.
Jason and the Argonauts.
Yes.
All that Ray Harryhaus and stop motion stuff.
Yeah.
Magical day, magical day.
Vertigo did see the first run of Vertigo.
Maybe my favorite Hitchcock movie, speaking of Hitchcock.
You know Vertigo?
I don't, it's not my favorite.
Really?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Bernard Herrmann does the score.
Wonderful music from that.
But why don't you like Vertigo?
I didn't say I didn't like it, just of the Hitchcock films.
What's your favorite Hitchcock?
Wow, it's got to be Psycho.
I also like Strangers on a Train.
Oh, that's a yesteryear.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Farley Granger.
Farley Granger was in that.
I met Farley Granger.
You can't just say a name twice and have it have more impact.
Yes, you can.
Farley Granger.
Farley Granger, Farley Granger.
I think he's proven that he can't.
It would be great if you, I think you'd
be a great prosecuting attorney, because you'd say,
you know, the killer is, of course, Steve Miller.
Steve Miller.
And people would be like, well, he's got to be guilty.
He said his name twice.
Steve Miller from the band?
Yeah.
Well, I just threw a name out there.
What's a common name?
He's not suspicious in any way.
He's the gangster of love.
He's got to be guilty.
Oh, God.
That's true.
That's true.
Stand by that.
What were we talking about?
Oh, yeah, what were we talking about?
Who's name?
You were listing.
Oh, Farley Granger.
You know who introduced me to Farley Granger?
Shelly Winters, whom I met on this movie called Next Stop
Grange Village that Paul Mazurski directed in 1975.
Brian, I came out here, and we were kind of palsy.
Shelly Winters.
Lovely woman.
She was lovely.
Wow.
She was on our show in the early years,
and I loved her because I knew her mostly
from Poseidon Adventure.
I know that one.
That's fantastic.
You know, she was in the Poseidon Show.
But she was also in Lolita.
Oh, she's great in Lolita.
She's great in Place in the Sun, with Montgomery Cleaver,
and Liz Taylor.
Spectacular.
Hey, did you ever meet Liz Taylor?
I did not meet Liz Taylor.
No.
I knew Liz Taylor.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
What was she like?
Spectacular.
Spectacular.
She, yeah, she was one of those people.
There's a, it all depends on when you get in to show business.
And I, you know, you need to get in at the, I missed.
You know, I shouldn't say that.
I got to meet all these amazing people who then passed away.
It makes me sound like a killer.
I met them, and then they were gone.
Suspicious, eh?
But before that, but I will say that, you know,
there are all these great stars that passed away,
you know, before I came along in 93.
And you think of, you know, all the great,
so many great stars from the, she had not passed away,
but refused to take my calls.
All this with Taylor.
Yeah.
Wisely, very wisely.
I was a blamer.
No.
Right.
Who were we talking?
Oh, so Shelly Winters, who was in Place in the Sun.
Yeah.
And also, what did she win the Oscar for
as supporting actress, as they were called in those days?
What did she win for?
She won for?
Why did you become an evil German scientist?
What did she win for?
You will tell us what she won.
Just let me, you will not leave until you tell us
what Shirley Winters won for.
Supporting actress.
I teach how to sleep.
Gleinschlag, Lothenstein, Sleetenland.
What was it?
Very good.
Patch of Blue.
Oh, OK.
Patch of Blue with Elizabeth Hartman and Sidney Poitier.
And the prisoner says, Patch of Blue.
And he goes, ah, OK, you come on.
You're the first.
I'm putting that down because I.
You can go.
It is, did you park in our lot because we validate?
Yeah, I did.
OK, well, it was a little hole in the ceiling.
The guy completely loses his fervor.
Patch of Blue.
Oh, OK.
So you go out the way you came.
There's a little bit of a mistake to the elevator.
I'm crying.
Do you want me to validate that?
Very good.
Yeah, I'm adding Patch of Blue because I'd forgotten it
because we saw Lilies of the Field
and guess who's coming to dinner,
all in the Sidney Poitier category, in any case.
So Shelly Winters took me to Musso and Franks for the first time.
Oh, my God, that is the ultimate me and her and Farley Granger.
Oh, my God.
Yep.
Wow.
She said, get the sandabs.
Sandabs, they're known for their sandabs.
Nobody else serves sand.
You know the fish sandabs?
At Musso and Franks, you can get the sandabs.
What is it?
Fish, kind of fish.
Fish that you get.
It's been fried often.
The fried sandabs kind of a variation of soul, I do believe.
I just, those, I mean, I live for those experiences.
I live for the idea that you would see an iconic star
in a restaurant and you would end up hanging out with them.
You know, someone you grew up watching on TV.
And I was at some restaurant once and Warren Beatty
was at another table.
And the next thing you know, I got invited over
and I'm sitting with Warren Beatty and he's, I mean,
Bonnie and Clyde was such a huge deal to me.
I saw it first run with my family.
Yeah, and then I'm sitting there with him
and I just can't believe it.
I'm supposed to play it cool, but then you can't
because it's too big a moment, just too big.
Totally amazing.
Splendor in the Grass, even before Bonnie and Clyde,
my parents and I went to, we were in New York City
and I think we went to Radio City Music Hall,
saw the Rockettes and saw Splendor in the Grass
with him and I think maybe Natalie Wood.
Yeah, I saw the Rockettes, but I was 50 yards away.
I was in shrubber.
Oh, God.
Just peering at them.
Oh, God.
Such a creep.
Up in the catwalk.
Oh.
I'm the only guy that watches the Rockettes
from a distance.
Peering through.
You know, you can buy a ticket and be first row.
I know.
No, no, no, I have my own way.
I like to do it.
It doesn't do anything for me.
Yeah, I gotta wait till all of them come out together
into that field and I'll be behind those shrubs over there.
What?
How are you gonna get them all out here?
Let me have a Salt Lake.
We'll get them out there.
A Salt Lake.
You get it up.
Look, we, I have to wrap this up.
No, you mustn't.
If I beg you.
I beg you.
He had a dream, he expects a five hour podcast.
We can do this, it's okay.
Okay, we'll do it.
We all need to be rehydrated.
No, I just wanna, it's, my God.
I wanna get the word out.
And because this podcast, I'm not gonna brag.
You can brag.
A lot of people hear this podcast.
Oh, 43 million, I believe,
as the viewership is the, don't do that.
In Hawaii alone.
And so what I'm saying, that's just on Maui.
Everybody listens five times a month.
Yeah, I read 43 million.
Very successful podcast.
Not for me to say.
Let's not fact check that.
It's 43 million.
You just say, yeah, no reason to look into it.
But the point is, a lot of people hear it
and so when I say Jurassic World Dominion,
Jurassic World Dominion is coming out
and that you are reprising your role as Dr. Ian Malcolm,
that is going to pack the theaters alone.
That alone.
That's big.
No one else would watch it otherwise.
I appreciate you saying that.
Very, because that's what they've said,
but that's what I represent, you know,
I represent a lovely company of investors and people.
All right, let's not turn this into a money thing.
No, emotionally, emotionally they invested.
Colin Travaro, the director.
Steven Spielberg is still at the top of the pyramid.
Yes, God fathering this all the way through.
Let's be honest.
You are the butts and seats of this movie.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, people are just gonna say it.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I, that's how I felt.
And as much as everyone else was spectacular,
but you and one of the dinosaurs really,
I can't remember which one,
it's one of the velociraptors.
The velociraptors.
It'd be great if you got everybody back
except one velociraptor held out.
It's like, fuck it.
The Robert Duvall.
Yeah, I thought I was gonna say the Robert Duvall.
God fathered for you.
Yeah, like fuck it.
You meet my price, I'm not showing up.
Ha, ha, that's right.
Can I just take a second to share my notes
for this episode of the podcast?
Yes.
Yes.
Perfection, erotic, ideal.
Yep.
Wow.
That was just what I was.
There we go.
That really was.
Yeah, I got to, we should do it.
I have, we have many more hours.
You know, you have to come back
because my time with you is serious.
I'm gonna be sincere and it's hard for me to do that,
but you're one of my favorite people.
You really are.
You do me.
And I just absolutely love talking to you
and it is whenever we're together,
whether it's been on the show or this podcast,
it is unlike any other experience I have
and it means a lot to me.
And so when I heard that you were gonna come in
and inaugurate our new studio, my head blew up.
It exploded.
Well, me too.
I've been looking forward to this terrifically
and these are my favorite.
These are peak experiences for me
and people come up to me on the street anecdotally
and say, you on Conan, you and Conan, you and Conan.
See, we got to do something.
They do.
Well, I think so too.
I've been screen tested and apparently it's not good.
It won't be a film, but maybe an animated project.
Something where my face is mostly hidden.
And you're singing authentically a lot.
I like that.
And I just saw a documentary about
or some kind of thing about talk show,
the history of talk shows and the current.
Did you see this one?
There are many of them.
I don't watch those.
I love them all.
And this one particularly said,
here's why amongst the current crop
in the last few decades, Conan O'Brien reigns supreme.
He's cracked the code and why he's at the pinnacle
of what this needs to be right now, et cetera, et cetera.
Yep.
Are you uncomfortable?
No, I'm not uncomfortable.
I just don't believe that that exists.
They're talking about this Conan O'Brien.
It's an Irish Conan O'Brien.
This guy makes a very good case for exactly why.
It's a very erudite and...
There is a guy named Conrad O'Brien in Dublin who's huge.
And he's really cracked the code.
That's very cool.
Well, it's true.
It's true, it's true.
Well, Jeff.
And you all together, I mean,
I'm really starting struck with all of you.
Oh, come on.
Stop it.
Obsession.
Oh, Obsession.
You pronounce my name right.
Obsession.
There should be a perfume, not Obsession, but Movesession.
Oh, yes.
I'm wearing the new oboe.
Oh, Movesession.
What do you like?
I'm going to smell like garlic.
Yeah, I'm going to say.
And gorelly.
And gorelly.
Is it, how do you say, what's that vowel exactly?
Is it gore?
Gore, like gore, like gore.
Gorelly.
Gorelly.
Yeah, although when I went to Ireland,
they said it's girly.
Ah, girly.
Is it really the same call?
Well, they were just saying, you seem kind of girly.
Yeah, I think so.
You seem girly to me.
I said it's girly because, no, it's girly.
I just, I always tell you, walk on down the street.
And it was girly.
Well, you two, you three have made me very, very happy
for many hours.
You will continue to be.
You have delighted us, and you're coming back.
I want to.
I want to, along with, you know, I've
seen every single schlansky, every single schlansky.
Oh.
Really?
Really?
No, we don't.
I laugh out loud over and over again.
I've seen them multiple times.
No, no, and it's all true.
That's the one thing.
I've been in the darkest regions, darkest most remote corners
of the world, and people will literally
come out from behind the rock and say, schlansky,
is he being real?
And I'll go, yes, he's being real.
And then they go back under the rock.
You're never funnier when he's driving you mad.
It's just great, great, great, great, great.
Well, anyway, I could go on.
Mr. Goldblum, Mr. Jeff Goldblum, you're the finest man
that ever lived.
Conan Christopher O'Brien.
Yes, you are the finest man that's ever lived.
No, you're better.
Sorry.
I'm taking you to a sizzler.
We're going there.
Let's go.
Linguistino, Linguistinos.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Oh, man.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
We have to just take a second here and wallow
in the joyousness of Jeff Goldblum.
And we never do this.
We talk to the guests.
Then we move on with matters, but Jeff Goldblum came in here.
He is just an energy field.
He is calming, but also innervating at the same time.
He electrifies, solidifies.
There's no compromise.
I have real nice thighs.
He's absolutely, no, no, he's incredible.
He does it.
He's one of my, I got to say.
And I was really looking forward to seeing him today
and then to see how happy he was to see you, Matt Gorley,
and you, Sonam of Sessian.
He knew you as people.
He didn't.
As human beings.
You know, a lot of celebrities, they come in and they're like,
oh my God, it's Conan.
It's Conan.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I've never heard that.
I've never heard anybody say, oh my God, it's Conan.
I know.
I keep trying to get them to say it.
I know.
I have a cue card I hold up.
I think Kato Kalan was the only one that came in.
Kato Kalan was sad.
Yeah.
But he was testifying.
No, but, no, but anyway, no, please, murder.
When time passes, murders are okay.
Okay.
It's a laugh back.
Anyway, my point is that, you know, he saw me as a human being,
not as some godlike creature, and he was so thrilled to see you guys as well.
Oh man.
He's a human electrolyte.
He just gives you energy like you're saying.
And we know that he listens to all these segments and stuff,
so this is as much for him, how much we loved him.
Jeff, we absolutely love you.
We know that he listens to the podcast, so unless he's an incredible
con artist who paid someone to listen, because he said, I can't listen to that crap.
Oh, no, no, no, unless he paid someone to listen and take notes.
I can put a test in there.
Jeff, if you're listening to this, to prove it, come over to my house and watch some James
Bond movies with me.
Oh.
Matt, that got sad.
Quick.
Just please come over.
Okay, that's better.
Do you have?
Do you have friends?
Oh, god, no.
You don't?
No, not a one.
That just occurred to me.
I don't know if you have friends and you have people that you podcast with and you
shuttle from place to place, podcasting with people you may not really know well on a
human level, but do you have friends that come over and do the things that you like to
do?
Yeah, I'm a human being.
Well, I don't know.
Yeah.
I've never heard you reference a friend.
Do you really think he didn't have any friends?
I don't know.
You know that I have friends.
Well, now Jeff Goldblum's my friend, so I do have a friend.
Oh, well, now I'm not sure either.
Huh?
You're not sure?
Yeah.
Jeff, come on.
Let's prove these knuckles wrong.
Your friends are all people you saw on TV and movie when you were kids in your mind.
I'm ET.
Man, last night I had dinner with Gumby.
Gumby?
This is supposed to be a Jeff Goldblum praise session.
Yeah, that's true.
I love him so much.
He doesn't have to know who we are.
You know what's interesting?
He and Matt, and he does.
That says a lot about him.
Let me ask you a question.
Ladies love that man.
Love him.
And I don't understand because, you know, again, we have a similar frame.
Okay, don't do that.
Don't do that.
I don't understand.
Just before you go down that road.
No, but when I don't understand.
He said, like, not.
No, I can handle it.
I can handle it.
Why is it that there's a fork in the road?
Confidence.
Swagger.
Yeah.
Ease.
You know how, at a time, Portia and Volkswagen had the same engine?
Mm-hmm.
That's the difference.
We're talking about that.
It's also, it's like, he's chill.
No, I can handle it.
I really want to know.
He is a chill person who seems very comfortable in his skin and very confident.
Not that you're not, but it seems like he's been that way much longer than you have.
No, no.
I feel like he went through a very, like, awkward phase where you were like, ooh, I don't
like myself.
No.
Was that?
That was, that was.
No, but what I'm saying is that it does, it does amaze me that he does have something
that I wish I had that I don't have.
Oh, me too.
You know?
And, and I'm being completely honest.
He has, he does have an ease and he's always in the center.
He's always centered.
Mm-hmm.
I think that's incredible to be centered like that all the time.
And he's, he's like a tuning fork that's perfectly vibrating with the universe.
And I feel like I'm a, you know, like a, you're just a fork.
Yeah.
Like a fork.
Yeah.
That was eating clams, but someone didn't wash it afterwards.
And then it fell in some sand and it's got some clam juice and sand on it.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Do you think we like him because he's nice to us?
Oh, right.
Maybe if you tried being nice to me and Matt, then we would like mom, maybe still not then.
You got a paycheck, right?
That's not being nice to someone.
You got a paycheck.
You, I'm your employee.
That doesn't mean you're nice to me.
It's kind of worse because it's like you're paying her to be belligerent.
The fact that you even thought about.
Do you do okay with me?
I do.
Yeah, I do.
Would you say that, I mean, are there a lot of other people just sending you money besides
me?
Nobody else is.
Okay.
Then you're my job.
Then I'm a good guy and I'm your friend.
It's not how nice this works.
It's not a transaction.
What are you talking about?
Jeff Goldblum asks nothing and he gives everything.
You are a transaction.
Do you get a paycheck from him?
Why are you pointing at me?
You profit from me as well.
In a roundabout way, I do, yes.
In a roundabout way.
Full disclosure.
Okay.
I didn't realize you were just here on a voluntary basis.
No, I've seen you driving, but since the podcast blew up and suddenly you're driving
a Bentley.
No.
Yes.
You're driving a Bentley on, you know, just on Hollywood Boulevard.
Yeah.
Classic girls.
Yeah.
And, oh, your license plate suddenly pod king and you're driving around.
You guys have both.
Pod king is seven months.
Yeah.
We say.
And your kids were these like crazy satin outfits that you have handmade for them now
that the podcast blew up.
And so both of you have, your lives have been changed by knowing me, which means you have
to like me.
You have to.
You know that's not how it works.
It should work that way.
You can't buy a friendship.
That's not how it works.
No, you can't.
That's why I moved to Los Angeles.
But you can.
No.
You can.
Sonya and I are friends.
All of my friends.
I genuinely like me.
All of my friends work for me.
And I'm very comfortable with that because if any of them piss me off, I can terminate
that friendship very easily.
And you wonder why we like Jeff Goldblum more than you.
I still don't understand it.
He's my favorite tall person and he just exudes this like sense of ease.
And you know what?
He doesn't have to pay me for me to like him.
And that says a lot.
This is interesting.
I have to look more into this.
Into friendship?
Into the concept of being nice.
He leads with love.
You lead with fear.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
Stalin did that.
Yeah, I know.
He controlled it.
Stalin.
Joseph Stalin.
Oh.
Dictator.
Oh, so now we're going to rip on Joseph Stalin.
You don't.
I love how there's no sacred, there's no sacred cows anymore.
Everybody gets torn down.
Everybody gets torn down.
Jeff Goldblum.
And now it's Joseph Stalin.
No, not Jeff.
Jeff Goldblum.
Jesus, no one's safe in this hypersensitive era.
Jeff Goldblum is.
He's an angel.
Yeah.
He's an absolute angel.
He's otherworldly.
Just such a sweet person.
He might be an alien.
He is.
He is.
You know, we should stick the landing on this.
He is such an unusually, he's an unusual person.
There's no one else quite like him.
And I do have to tell you that when I, in my travels, people always bring up to me, oh
my God, I love it when Jeff Goldblum is on the podcast or he's on the show.
He brings an energy that immediately transforms the experience.
I think we all are changed by him when we're in his, he creates like a biosphere, a Jeff
Goldblum biosphere that's very enjoyable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he remembers everybody.
He's just, he like, when he looks at you, he looks at you and he knows your name and
he remembers you.
And that goes a long way.
I don't, again, I have a list of all the employees.
I can consult.
I die.
I don't think you even know my name.
I can go to Jeff Ross.
Now, I don't need to.
You do.
All I have to do is go to Jeff Ross or Adam Sachs and say, the guy with the, you know,
he's kind of a hipster and he lives in Pasadena and they'll be like, yeah, Matt Gorley.
And I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, tell him I wished him a happy Christmas.
I got to get out of here.
My helicopter, my helicopter's waiting.
It's me.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
My helicopter's waiting.
That's your helicopter.
Oh, my God.
Your helicopter is ill.
Yeah.
Why?
Wait, how does the helicopter?
No, but mine is different.
Mine runs on pure malice.
Oh, my God.
It's very eco-friendly.
It's also super pervy somehow.
It's a helicopter.
Wow.
Mr. Bryan, you must really hate people today.
We've got a lot of people out there who don't know what's going on in the world.
Mr. Bryan, you must really hate people today.
We've got 600,000 miles.
I just get in it and put an electrode on my head and flies on it.
Who are you mad at?
And it leaves a noxious cloud of just pure bad intent behind me.
Metaphorically, that's what's going on here.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, anyway, Jeff Goldblum, if you're listening right now, naked in the lotus position as
you meditate, as he does every night.
We love you.
We do.
We love you.
See you next week.
At my house for James Bond.
Okay.
Let's cut it there.
Oh, man.
Okay.
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