Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Josh Groban

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

Singer-songwriter Josh Groban feels downright giddy about being Conan O’Brien’s friend.   Josh sits down with Conan to discuss his breakout moment at 16 singing with Céline Dion at the Grammys, finding ways to exercise his comedic inclinations, and asking his dad to play trumpet on his latest album Cinematic. Plus, Conan comes face to face with his character’s real-life toy from the upcoming Toy Story 5.   For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: [phone]. Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hi, my name is Josh Grobin, and I feel downright giddy about being Conan O'Brien's friends. Now, that's the right attitude. That is. It's an honor. No, it's not. But giddy is appropriate. It's a giddy honor. Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell, brandy shoes, walking loose, climb the fence, books and pens.

I can tell that we are going to be friends. Until never we are going to be friends. Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, sitting here with Sonam Obsessian, Matt Goreley. Hi. And Sona and I are just back from Morocco. Oh, that's funny. I didn't see you guys there.

Oh. Oh, really? Were you there? Yeah. Not just there on my own. Yeah. Wandering around. Yeah, that makes sense.

No, we were shooting an episode of the travel series, Conan O'Brien must go. And we, Sonny, you were kind enough to come with me. Yeah. Because actually something came up on this podcast. You expressed a desire to get a certain product, a certain argon oil. Yeah. And so I decided, I'm going to get you that argon oil by taking you to Morocco.

Yeah. Is it a spoiler to say if you got the oil? We can't say anything. Okay. We can't say anything. What we can tell you. People are going to tune in for that? It wasn't like the Ark of the Covenant.

I mean, you could probably get this pretty... It's very readily available there. Apparently, it's also readily available here. Oh, you got scammed. I got scammed. As we were in the market, hunting down the argon oil, someone said, you know... Yeah, you can get this, you know, on Amazon, and it will come from the same store that you found. But anyway, that ruins the magic of travel.

So, but we had, well, tell me what you thought, Sonner. Oh, I had so much fun. I had, you know, I used to travel when you do the travel shows. And I forgot how it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. You guys seem a little tired. Are you tired?

I woke up at 2.30 this morning. I didn't go back to sleep. Because I was east for a while for other things. So I was on that time. And then we went to Morocco. Yeah. And so I haven't been on L.A. time in, in, quite a while.

Yeah. So yeah, I've been waking up at like three in the morning and like cleaning out cupboards. Yeah. Like I'll do, when I wake up and it's pitch black outside and I know I'm up,

I just start doing tasks that I would never do otherwise. Like, I'll build a urinal, you know? First, I'll fire the porcelain. I mean, I'll do all these crazy things because I think,

you have that, you're revving. You want to be useful. You want to get something done. So, yeah, I've been actually mostly what I've been doing is organizing.

things that I haven't organized in a long time. I mean, just, and my wife was away, so I was alone. It's me, the dogs and the cats, and I'm just, they hear me in the garage banging away. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's weird. I'm not productive. What did you do when you look? Clips of shows I like.

Oh, no. And I just scroll on my phone in the bed. It's nice. It's called doom scrolling. It's not doom because my algorithm's really fun. So it's like, what's your algorithm? My algorithm is a lot of, uh, just. silly, it's like, you know, silly humor. It's a lot of really funny stuff. It's, I don't know

how to describe it. And then every once in a while, it's like takes me to a really dark kind place on Instagram and then, like what? I don't know. There's just like, like, what's dark for you? I can't, I don't know. Sometimes I'm just like, how did this end up here? I can't, I can't, I can't think of, I'm really, this would be a real good example. If you had an example, it would be so good if I had an example for you. Is it like street fights, that kind of thing? I get a lot of fights. I do get a lot of fights. A lot of brawls and fights.

And I love that. That's your love language. I love them. I know. And they make me, they fire me up. Like, they get me really intense. Like, I don't know if you guys get that same. No, no, just me.

Okay. You like watching fights? I love it. Sometimes I revisit fights. I saw a clip recently. This has been going around. This clip's been going around, which is sort of a tangential to this. But as clips been going around,

if they unveiled this robot and the robot comes out. It's one of these really impressive, you know, latest model robots and it's coming out and it's doing all these cool moves and spinning and stuff like that. And all these families are around watching it, like applauding. And then it spins around and it kicks this little kid really hard in the stomach. And the kid doubles over and then kind of collapses. And I think the kid's okay. I hope the kid's okay. Is this real? Yeah, it's real, I think. I'm pretty sure it's real. And then the robot sort of stands. up and then just starts to step back, retreat. And I thought, does that robot feel shame?

Is it possible? It feels shame? And I was, because I'm a human, I was reading in, oh, that robot just must feel so much shame right now. And then I realized it doesn't, no, it doesn't. There's no way the robots like, that's darker than the street fights. I know. But we don't want it to feel shame.

Robot kicks boy in the stomach. It came up. Yeah. Oh, I don't want to see this. Yeah, yeah. No, it's not. The kid's okay. And I think the kid might have needed a kicking.

You never know. Oh. I don't want to bum people out, but I think it's okay. I know it's not funny, right? Is this a whole on? Yes. Look, so here's the guy. He's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, boink.

Oh, no. Jesus. Yeah. Oh, no, that's awful. Okay. And look at the robots. Like, oh, no. Must destroy it to save oneself.

Yeah. Oh, my God. So anyway. Oh, my God. Now. That kid is standing out a little too far. What's that? That kid is, asked for it.

Yeah, he asked for it. Well, you said he had it coming. you're victim blaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys algorithms turning you guys into monsters. I, yeah, I said, go robot. That was my comment that I wrote in. Oh, no, you shouldn't be standing.

Do you remember when we were, I don't know if we should mention this, when we were in Armenia? Probably not. And there was a guy doing donuts. Yes. And there was a perimeter of people around. We're in Yerevan, capital of Armenia.

We're there for five minutes when we hear all this noise and excitement and we go to this big square where all these people are packed around watching. And there's a guy in that. middle who's accelerating really fast in a car doing donuts and everyone's just it doesn't seem like an official performance i think a guy was just doing donuts and everyone came to watch the guy do donuts because it's one o'clock and it's time for donuts and everyone's but there's no barrier between

the people and the guy doesn't really he's not a professional he doesn't know what he's doing and then at one point he swings around and i think he hit a bunch of people he hit people i think they're okay yeah and i don't think people you know here everyone would be like okay okay hey, get everyone's number and everyone's going to sue everyone. They're just like, that's what happens. Shake it off. We're good. Get back around the perimeter.

Yeah. Get back to donuts. It was crazy. Yeah. It didn't make the show that we were shooting, but it was. Oh, no? No. You didn't open it with that?

We are opening with the robot kicking the Chinese boy. I'm going to put the top of the show. Well, what was your reaction to that? I mean, I don't know. First of all, I saw that thing. It got sent to me. Instagram thought, Conan's going to love a Chinese robot. kicking a kid in the stomach, which I don't endorse.

But now that you probably watched it more than once, it's going to think that's what you want is robots kicking kids. Yeah. Well, I can. I guess I'll just have to, I made my bed and I have to lie in it. It would be great if all my feet was robots attacking children. I'm sure. I'm sure you can be.

Now that you've said it out loud, it probably will be. All right then. Alrighty then. Remember that when that was a big thing? Alrighty then. On Ace Ventura. That was cool. I'm just trying to...

30 years ago. It was over 70 years ago. Yeah. I just looked it up. My guest... Oh, let's get into it. Okay, let's do it. We should do it.

You're not crisp with any of a sentence. You dribble a little bit. You should go. Anyway, so that's a... Intro. And go. Well, anyway, right, Sona? Yep.

Anyway, I got that one. Right, Sona? My guest today is... Do you have a thought like when we might want to end this podcast? I think it's coming up real soon. It's coming up real soon. Because it's going to be taken away if we don't end it ourselves. If we can't use this responsibly, they're going to take it away.

And intro. Thanks, Sona. My guest today is a Tony, Emmy, and Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter. His new album, Cinematic, is a tribute to the Silver Screen and it's out now. I am so happy he's here today. He's a funny, lovely fellow. Josh Grobin, welcome. Josh, I am so thrilled you're here.

We have had a connection over the years because as a very young man, you came on my late night show. I did. And I thought this kid is very talented but also really funny. Oh, man. And you were sweet.

And I thought, I don't think he's going to make it. But wouldn't it be nice if he did? And I think I... Remember I said that to you? It's what you led with. Yeah. So I...

My next guest probably won't make it. You really like to keep me on edge. Yeah, I was nervous already but that really threw me. You've had this brilliant career and you remain a really nice person and a really funny person, which leads me to my next topic of discussion, which is not long ago I was tasked with hosting the Oscars. And I remember we had this idea. There needed to be someone who could sing this, you know, sing my tribute.

And immediately, I think two of us at the same time said, wouldn't it be great if Josh Grobin would do it? And I remembered having a thought, oh, my God, Josh Grobin, if he doesn't do it, I don't know that we can do this piece because that's the best person to do it. And I know that whoever, if you weren't available, because we knew that you were touring. Yeah, who's the second choice? This is not going to make you happy, but it was comedian Patton Oswald. Oh, Pat. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, apparently he's a terrible voice. I'm imagining him in the night gear right now. There was, that's just it. There was no second choice. There was no second choice. And I know that if we had found someone, I'd have been mad the whole time that it wasn't you

and probably tanked the piece. So we reached out to you. We found out that you might be amenable. We should have a conversation. And the next thing, you know, I'm on a Zoom with you and you're in Tokyo. I was in Tokyo. There is no cooler experience in being in Tokyo,

first of all, to begin with, and then having a Zoom with you about doing this bit. Nothing will top this. Well, here's the weird thing, too. I thought, remember, we got on the Zoom, and I said, you must be on tour and Josh said, no, they have the best sex toys here. That's right.

Yeah. And this is where I like to shop for my sex toys. And then for 20 minutes you were showing me these... Oh, I had a bag. I had two Trader Joe's bags full of dildos and... And my god. Suction cups and tassels. No, no, no. Let me continue.

No, it was really it liked tourism for me. Yeah, yeah. The thing is, no one builds shit like the Japanese. True. But you kept turning them on and they were like, like, they had gang, gang, gang, gang, gang. A lot of robotics. Yeah, a lot of robotics.

And one of them had a song similar to the one you wanted me to sing. So I kind of said, like, you know, like this. But anyway, we had this. So the next thing you know, we're rehearsing, you killed it. We do it at the Oscars. You were great. And then here's a weird thing about show business. You killed it.

And people really like the piece and people were so happy that, suddenly you're there. I love anyone who's legitimizing a completely illegitimate piece of comedy. So the fact that you were part of it with your amazing voice, but you're singing these incredibly stupid lyrics about how I'm the greatest ever.

And it's over, but from my perspective, I'm on top of a mountain holding onto a fake falcon and being pulled off the stage and I wave to you and you kind of wave back and you go left and I go right

and then I'm into the show and I never see you again. I know. And it's weird because I know that if I had been watching that, I'd think, oh, cool, now Conan and Josh Grubman get to hang out backstage

and trade old more stories. Go to a lounge. No, I don't see you anymore. Yeah. So much of TV is bits over and then you're off to Belgium to do a concert and, you know, I'm off,

I don't know where I go. To sleep for a week. I did. I did sleep for a week. I knew, though, going into it that, I mean, if I could see you even for a second, that would be great. Because your responsibilities on a night like that, leading up to it, and then on the night, and you make it look easy.

I mean, it really was, I was happy that this was scheduled on the calendar so we could catch up. Yes. You know, this is the only reason I'm having you. The only reason, and first of all, this will never, no one will ever hear this. There's no tape in the machine, said the idiot, who fundamentally didn't understand how things work. But it is really nice to get to talk to you. Same. And I was listening to the wave.

Yeah, after the wave. And I was listening to the album you did, cinematic, and it's all these different amazing movie songs, songs from great movies. And I was listening to you sing the Godfather theme, and it has lyrics in Sicilian. That's right. And I didn't realize that the Godfather had lyrics, the Godfather theme. Me neither. And I was like, this is amazing. and I translated the lyrics.

I used I translate. And it's just going over the plot of the Godfather. That's right. It was before the Godfather? It came out? No, no, no. It came out at the same time as the Godfather. But the lyrics are not imaginative.

It sounds like such a beautiful song, but all the lyrics are, You shouldn't let your wife in Italy start the car. She will blow up and her body will go real far. Never sit with your back to a window. You know, yeah, it's, you know, enjoy the clams. Enjoy the clams. Incredible, just really, really getting into the nitty gritty.

Really, it is. There's going to be a sequel, and you'll see it's pretty good. Watch number one and two, but three may be, well, it's understood. Three's a mistake. Three's a mistake. Yeah, I go up for that one. Yeah. But I was listening to it and just,

Unchained melody. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's a bunch of songs there. And also your skyfall is fantastic. Thank you. So I was listening to all these and I was thinking, first of all, the musicians you have behind you, it's insane. 90 pieces, 90 players in London at Air Studios.

And singing it in the room with them is like nothing else. There's so much about my job that is just isolated. You're in a hotel room. You're in a dressing room. You're in front of a microphone. to be in the room with them playing is like walking on a cloud. Because, you know, if you mess up, they have to start again. If they mess up, you start again.

And it's just an incredible experience to sing these melodies with them. And the Sicilian came because I was, I rehearsed it in Italian. There's an English language version, an Italian language, and a Sicilian version. Are you fluent in Italian? No, I learned these languages as a singer because I grew up learning these art songs. And I would, I would sing in French, and Italian and Spanish. I don't speak the language fluently, but I learn them as I'm, of course, when I'm singing them.

But I sent in a demo of the Italian version to Coppola and the team. He would be honored for the AFI lifetime achievement. He asked me to do it for that. And I sent in a demo and I was really nervous and I worked like for two weeks on it. And then they sent me back a note saying like, oh, no, no, Mr. Coppola would like it in Sicilian. And so that is when I realized that there was such a thing.

Looked it up. There was. And, yeah, you learn something new every day. It was beautiful, though. Did you ever, do you think ever for a second, you know, having your agent call and go, yeah, that's not happening? Copla. Do you know what I mean? Because I send that response back all the time, but it's about much smaller things.

Oh, okay. Yeah, can Conan be there for the kid's birthday party at three? And I'll say, no, I can be there at 315, but I want my $200 up front. Just to throw your weight around. Yeah. Just, yeah. Oh, you want Sicilian? Now you get gibberish.

That's what you get? Because what's really the difference? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you going to say no? I'm sorry. Conan. I think all foreign languages are just gibberish. Oh, no.

No. I'm sorry. I thought everyone spoke American. Oh, my God. Can we? Can we? Are we recording this? No, we're good.

We're good. I'm pretty sure America was the first language. Oh, boy. Said the idiot. And then everyone lost their way. Oh, goodness. So I want to talk about your origin story because it really fascinates

me. When you're a kid, you obviously, you're like singing in your room. I think you're aware that you have this thing you can do, but you probably don't know what its value is or its merit. Yeah. And then you're 13 years old and you're in a choir. Yes. And do I have this right? The choir teacher's like, uh, you in the back. That's exactly right. Uh, once you come forward, I want to hear you a little better. Well, what he did was he would, all great teachers do is he recognized that there was a student in his choir who really needed the push. I was not, I mean, I'm a ham on stage, but I am like the most introvert on stage. And when I was a kid, I was really introverted.

Had a really hard time making friends. My grades weren't great. I did ADD and didn't even know about it. So like, I was a little bit lost. And I was in the back of the class and I was in the back of the choir. And I loved being part of it. But he heard A, that there was a little bit of a talent there. I was, by the way, 13 years old, my voice still hadn't changed.

So there was a talent there, but it was very high. Yeah, yeah. So it was a real gamble for him to say, I'm going to put this kid in the front, and I'm going to give him a song, and he gave me this song, Svonderful, George Gershwin's song, Swinderville, Swindervo, it's wonderful. And I sang it with all my might because it was an assignment. He knew that if he didn't give it to me as a class thing, that I would never do it for myself. Right.

So in pushing me to the front, he gifted me with a moment that changed, even if I hadn't gone into it professionally, a moment. moment that changed my growth forever. You know, the kids, like the next day were like, well, man, that was, even the bully was like, bro. Yeah. I'm going to still beat you senseless. I'm going to pause beforehand to compliment you on your incredible range. Voice of an angel. Now, get in that locker. Yeah. Could you do it? Wow. Could you do it yourself? I like this bully who just phones it in. Get in that locker. Well, that's basically. Can you pull your own underwear up so that it rides into your crack? Thanks a lot.

What are you doing? I'm on Amazon. At least they had to do it in person back then. Now it's also anonymous online, you know. I didn't like it, but I respected it. Bullies today's Zoom people. Oh, they just phone it in. Oh, yeah, what's up?

Thanks for a ticket. Can you stick your face in a urinal? Yes, sir. I love stories where people figure it out. I'm also picturing the teacher. Like, okay, let's music teacher. Okay. Yeah, you next.

What is it? Jay Grobin, Josh? All right, let's hear it. No, you know. Their glasses shatter. What is this damn name anyway? Yeah.

It was, well. Okay, Pavorati. Let's hear this guy. I've got to get to lunch. His name is actually, his name is Richard Barrett, and I invite him to every concert that I do. Oh, aw.

Because... But still make him pay. I still... That's a trick I like to do. My old comedy. teacher. It's $700 for that seat. I'd like to offer you the opportunity to buy tickets to my new show. No, he's, he was, he was not that guy. He was super, you know, excited to teach and still teaches. And, you know, not only did he pull me up from the back, but he knew that I liked to play piano. He knew

that I was kind of gravitating towards the drum set in the back. So he's like, I'm going to leave the music room open. So just whenever you need to go in, have an escape, get in there. And, you know, having access to all that just changed absolutely. everything for me. Do you have perfect pitch? Can you identify a note? Not, I don't have perfect. I can play by ear. If I listen to something, I can sit down at the piano and figure it out. I actually can't read music. Everything that I've learned how to play. No, it's true. That's the only reason you're here. What the hell? Adam. Our lesson's going to be really disappointing. This is where I push the button and you're ejected out of the Larchmont office. You land in a parked car. I parachute down in front of Noah's

bagels. Oh, man. Well, the good news is I can get a great locks in dream cheese. You land fracturing your pelvis, but immediately order a smear on a poppy seed. That's right. I said smear son. They come out with Pickles Conan, huh? Yeah. You probably found out you couldn't read music. Harrison Porter's here and I found out he couldn't read music and I ejected him. Oh, man. So you start singing and then you have this moment, another pivotal moment, is you're 17. Someone introduces you to David Foster, a famous producer, a ranger, and he asks you to do this thing at the Grammys. It's like, you were a kid. It was so close together, like that the shy 13-year-old,

whose voice was on the brink of changing, was 13. And then the call came in when I was 16. Right. So the time period between absolutely having no clue, wearing this coat that was so big on me and getting this call to be part of something that was very professional level. And what was it? It was something, a big thing at the Grammys. David had heard me sing at a chair. charity event that he asked me to do, plucked out of high school. I sang a song from Phantom of the Opera. It was like the biggest day in my life. But I went back to class. I didn't think anything else would come from it. So when he called me and he said, I met the Grammys. I've written the song. It's called the Prayer. It's for Celine Dion and Andrea Bocchelli.

And Bocelli is stuck on a tarmac in Germany. He can't be here in time for the rehearsals. Would you step in and would you sing this for Celine with with Celine until he shows up? Do you mind? Do you mind? That's just insane. What? And I, being an idiot, I mean, really, 16 years old, I did not have stars in my eyes to be a solo artist. I wanted to go to theater camp. I wanted to be, I wanted to worship the throne of Sondheim. And I wanted to like, that's what I wanted to do.

So the idea of like the music business, being a singer with those kinds of people, I was only thinking, can I do this well or not? And even though I was the hugest fan of Celine, I said to him, I don't think I'm the right person for this gig. I was so insecure. And Andrea Boccelli is like one of the great tenors of all time. And I was very much like living in my baritone world. I was not singing those very high notes. So I said, I think you can do better. I said, thank you so much for asking me.

I'm really honored, but I think you can do better. And my mom yelled at me from downstairs. I was course, still living at home. And she said, who is that? And I said, oh, that was David Foster. Oh, oh, what did he want? Well, it's this Grammy rehearsal as it happens. And Celine Dion is there and Bocelli isn't.

He asked me to come and sing. And, well, what did you say? I said, well, obviously, I said, I'm probably not the right person for the job. And they kind of went, oh, all right. Well, all right then. And I could tell they were disappointed. David Foster called me back. And he said, I don't think you understood me.

Get your ass to the Shrine Atatorium 3. Nobody had turned him down before. So he said, get over here. He barely gave me a pass. My dad shows up with me at the side door. Security's like, who are you? I said, I'm here to sing with Celine Dion. Yeah.

Hi, I'm 17. I'm going to see with Celine. And this is my dad. Yeah. And we're here for Celine Dion. Which way to the microphone. And, you know, and like security guard had to like walkie-talkie, another guy with a walkie-talkie who, you know, and so on and so far. Against finally, Ken Erlich, who produced the Grammys came out and grabbed me.

And, you know, it was just, I was so new to it that it was such another world. I didn't really permeate how important that moment was to be for me. Sure. I just wanted to do a good job. I didn't want to embarrass myself. Celine, of course, came out. And then I realized how real it was. But the thing about Celine in that moment was, she knew that David Foster was doing a thing.

that this wasn't just a job. She knew because she'd been there at my age that David was actually providing a door and an opportunity to prove myself. And that it was a lesson and that this was a moment. This was not just a rehearsal. Right. And so she kind of like clocked it. And she's like, oh, oh, got it.

Josh, so nice to meet you. Kiss, kiss. I could see I was nervous. And she made her sound check about making me comfortable. She grabbed my hand. She's like, we're going to do this. And when you look at me and you have the. the Italian, then I'll sing the English. We got this. Just look at the prompter and look at the,

you know, she was like, pep talking me out there. And I know, now that I've done a lot of sound checks for TV shows, I know how precious those, I mean, you know from just doing you always get much, I'm sure, such little time. There are allowances for Celine Dion in that moment, but I noticed that, you know, if, yeah, if you're doing the Oscars, the, and it's only appropriate, like Barbara Streisand, all the rehearsal time she needs. And then I'll say, I've got a thing where I, I catch a fake giant bird on a mountain with Josh Grobe, and they're like, you've got eight seconds. Yeah, that's lunch.

Yeah, that's lunch. You have eight seconds to get it right and then get out of here. Who are you? Host, got it. Yeah, yeah. It's quick. And so now that I know, like that, and that was a big song that she was about to sing really hard, and that was a big moment.

It was nominated for a Grammy and Oscar. So the fact that she took her precious time when many superstars of that time would have looked at me is like, stand-in singer, all right, do the best you can, let's get through it. You know, I might not. decided that this business was for me, had she been me? So even though it, you were for rehearsal only, right? Yeah. And so. Well, Kennerlick said to me after I rehearsed, you know, we're still looking to see if Bocelli can make his flight. So buy, go buy a suit in this lunch break. Go buy a suit. I mean, this is, this feels so old-timey. Like this feels so like the old. But now you can

TikTok yourself and get yourself on, you know, you can find an audience. Right. But that idea of like, you know, the kid, the kid did okay. Go down to men's warehouse. There's one down the street. And, you I've got a tailor. Here's his name. And, you know, it's, it was like, like, got to get a suit. I looked at my dad and said, I'm not like, I'm not, I can't do this on camera. Like, this is not, I'm not ready for this. Thankfully, Bocelli showed up.

I got to meet him. He wound up doing the song and I got to have a really good story. Did you get to tell Bichelli? Eh, you were okay. You thought I nailed it. I was, uh, because he's a notoriously bad singer. Yeah. No, I was just, I was so grateful that he was going to finally go out there and nail it.

My dad did have a camcorder video of it. And, you know, now, of course, you know that filming a sound check for something like the Grammys or the Oscars is just absolutely no, no, no. And Celine saw that he was filming and the security said, you can't do that. And she said, no, no, let him, let him film that. So that was, you know, it just was, she was the absolute best that day. And, you know, but then 10 years later, I got to sing that song on the Grammys with Bocelli. So we had like a kind of a full circle and I've sung it with Celine a few times since then. So it was just, it's wild how those things. Do you remember your 16 year old get a suit moment? Well, mine came later. Mine came when I was 48. Still involved a suit. Now, I do remember, I mean, the story I have that kind of lines up a little bit with that was obviously I had all these other adventures beforehand. But when I, you know, living out here in L.A. and getting a chance to audition to possibly be considered to be a late-night host replacing David Letterman, which seemed insane. but they said show up in Burbank at this time

and I didn't have anything to wear. So Lisa Kudrow, who's my best friend at the time, she said, hey, I'll take care of this and she took me to Fred Siegel and picked out the worst coat. And I'm sorry, Lisa, and we've talked about this before, but I'm a very pale person. I know now that I need to wear blue.

She was like, oh, this looks good and it was this linen floppy jacket that was very like almost pure white, maybe a little off white. And so I put it in the back of my torus and some transmission fluid that got on it and stained it. So I like turned the,

and I mean, people have I think looked up. You can look up the footage of me auditioning. I'm like, hey, everybody. And I've got floppy hair. And then I look like I'm trying to pretend to be Don Johnson in Miami Vice after he repaired a car. Could you see the stain on the...

I don't think you can. could, but, and so you don't just have one moment like that. You have, in my case, anyway, many of them. Right. And they continue. Yeah. And, you know, they say luck as preparation meets opportunity. And, you know, these, these moments, these points of light continue. It wasn't just that moment. It's like, it's, I can think of that was a, that was a tent pole of a moment that I didn't, I didn't know then, but the domino effect happened after that. Now, most people, I'm not most, but I'll say many, many people in your situation. That's where the self-medication starts.

That's where alcohol, drugs, people get into that kind of behavior for a reason because they feel like a lobster that's been shelled but is alive, you know, and everything's too, literally too raw. You didn't have that. Well, that's where my sex tourism to Japan started. I will say, it's a that was a. A somewhat less dangerous way to... Okay, this is why I'm happy.

That quote, if anyone missed the top, that quote out of context is very... Well, that's just bad news for you and your team. If this were in England, that would be the headline of the Guardian. The Daily Mirror. Yeah, daily mirror, yeah. Wait a minute. No, but I was...

You know, I battled all... I battled all the stuff. I had anxiety. I had depression, you know. And, you know, I had... I had certain medication medications for those things. But you knew that you couldn't drink because of your voice. Right.

So the pressure of needing to sound really good out there, I think kept me from getting into dangerous territory because ultimately the feeling of not doing great out there was worse than how good any of that stuff might feel in the interim. But can I just say heroin would not have affected your voice. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Does it affect your voice? Because if not, this is something we should explore. Yeah, no, no, no. No, you should not advocate for heroin.

Is that what you're doing? Well, I'm just saying I'm a little shocked that that wasn't proposed to you by your team. Just to take the edge off. My team, Adam Sacks over there, is constantly saying, you know, I don't think your comedy timing

would be hurt by some of these, like a fentanyl or something. And I'm like, Oh, Jesus, great. I'm telling you, Adam, there's not a day that goes by. Adam, what the fuck? Why?

Come on. Oh, he's not going on Mike now. The mic is saying. So far away from it. He's got to, he just took the mic and buried a hole, dug a hole and buried it. I'm very glad you didn't get any of those drugs, which by the way, I think are very bad.

Oh, good, good, good, good. Yeah, you did. You fixed it. My genre of music, though, my genre of music, though, was not like, I did not have that crew around me. Like, it was, you know, like, you know, what about your roadies?

Yeah, it's like, hey, man, you got a bump the line. Man, hey, man, your Ave-Marie was really killer. You seem a little tense. I was with Van Halen. But now, Grobin, this is what I think you should do. Yeah, yeah. Musical theater's fine, but heroin's better. You know, it's like an episode of like, remember cop rock?

Sure, I remember cop rock. Everything I relate back to cop rock, just everything's a musical. I imagine like a guy in a trench coat going, you sang the high note, but here's some meth. Yeah. I did not have that singing guy in the trench coat, like, after my classical scales, saying like, you know. It's fascinating to me that I'm glad you brought this up because,

I have gone, no, we're going to go off the drugs, but more specifically into musical theater, because, and musicals that I've always, to this day, I can never reconcile. I couldn't as a kid and I can't now, as an old man. I can't reconcile the, what do you think we ought to do? I don't know, it's kind of tricky. Yeah, sure.

But maybe we should. I'm always like, what the hell happened? What is it? Takes you out of it. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm always, I would love to be in a musical where someone does that and other people are, you know, what are you doing?

Yeah, retro record scratch. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Well, there's two camps of people. There's those that just think it's absolutely ridiculous and don't get it at all. You, perhaps, shallamee. I'm not putting you both in the same, you know, whatever. You know, I, too, am with a... I'm with one of the Kardashians as well.

Why is that clown singing a high note? Ridiculous, you know. And then those that are totally swept away. I was one of those kids that was totally. swept, just totally swept away by it. And the combination of music and story and that you could break into a song and that the singing of that song would somehow tap into some deeper way of expressing the story. Yeah.

I just, I suspended that disbelief. I do make an exception for the, I'm obsessed with the music man and I'm obsessed with you got trouble song. And I feel like I was put on this earth to do that. And someday in my life, I need to do it. Because I, you know, and I wrote a Simpsons episode about it. And it's a certain thing that I just, and then later was asked, because I know you've worked with the Hollywood men's gay choir. Yes, that's right.

Game men's course of Los Angeles. That's right. Game men's course. And what are I say? You butchered the name. The Hollywood. The Hollywood foreign choir. What did you do?

I think there, believe me, I've worked with them and their name is the gay Hollywood. That's right. Choir that men frequent. That's what it's called. Frequent. And guys, hello. But I got to work with them directly to them.

That's your camera. You go and look at right in the camera. Hey, Holly, what a. Hello, it's me. David, I'm an ally. I'm so out of control. What do I say to you every day? He called me once.

He'll always just text me ally. And once I was in the car with my boyfriend and he called me because he knew we were in the car and I answered and he just screams, Ally! Why? Because then I can say later on, I went on record. Oh, okay.

I'm just, I need to be stopped. I'm an ass. But they, I performed the troubles, not the trouble song, the monorail song, which was my version of it at the Hollywood Bowl for this Simpsons anniversary, which was one of my all-time favorite moments in show business. And they were absolutely fantastic and really funny. So I've always thought, oh my God, okay, I need to figure out a way where I get airlifted into a version of Music Man. And I just get to do that song and then I'm airlifted out.

I mean, I don't know. After the beef you clearly have with musicals, I don't know if that's going to happen. I'm distancing myself also from Shalame. I also. My beef is all with just ballet. Yeah, I'm down with musicals. I do love musicals. I just, not a beef.

It's just that I could never make the logical leap. But the music man is. where the line is okay. I love that like that's the one where you're like, but that guy, you know why? With his little traveling salesman box, when he breaks into song, I believe it. You know why? Because it's that Rex Harrison thing if he's kind of talk singing. Ah, okay. You know, now listen, my friend. It's all that kind of thing that makes more sense to me because I often start talking to people in that musical rhythm and yelling at them. I mean, I do. You could see why I would want to do a song where it's like, I'll gather around everyone. And I'll tell you what,

You have to know. Right. Oh, you got to, you know, that as opposed to, I wish to have a mayonnaise sandwich. Well, it's not, it's not trying to be real. Why can't you take a second and go, Conan, you have a beautiful voice. I've given him every fucking opportunity. I wish to have a mayonnaise. I mean, come on.

That was. You know what's crazy? He's wiping blood from his eyes. The blood that comes out of Josh's eyes when he hears. music being butchered. That was hairs on the back of my neck. Fantastic. What a beautiful Irish tenor.

Their hairs on the back of your neck. Not your, not your hair. It's just other hairs on the back of your neck. They go all the way down. I'm kidding. Stop it back there. All of you cackling. We should address, I'm going to address the Timmy

Shalamee thing for just a second because he was right there in the first row when we were at the Oscars. And I think, I do, I think he's an amazing actor. And I actually have, met him a bit and know him to I'm I really don't know him that well but I I think he is a really good guy I really do it got piled on it it was yeah I became a hat on yeah I'm gonna take a second and I've of course I was I was I thought that was okay maybe that wasn't a great thing to say but you know I it ultimately helped yeah ticket sales skyrocketed I mean like I the the thing I took from it is

like all right people are going to have their their hot takes their opinions as people should and then you can disagree with it or not. But ultimately, like, if what he said meant that everybody went, yeah, stinks, unquote, whatever it is, and then sales dropped, well, then that would be one thing. But no, everybody, like, ballet companies were saying use promo code Shalame. Yeah. To like, yeah. If you want two for one tickets, everybody was, you know, sometimes you need a heal for everybody to go now, wait a minute. Yeah. And every, he actually, he elevated it. People, and then he had, and then Misty Copeland came on the show. Our bit was, was written before he said those things. Yes, right. So we, you know, people were asking me, did you do that? You were right in front. Did you do that? And I said, no, we wanted to do it anyway. We came up with that before that whole thing. But anyway, just, you know, just a moment to say he's all right.

Also, and I think he's an incredible actor, incredible actor. Incredible, very talented actor. And who amongst us hasn't said things? I mean, truly. You did this interview. I think it's interview alone. This whole time. Yeah, this interview alone, you've said a lot of things. Can I just say, I want to double down on this. Can I just say, I want to double down on. this. I believe when at the beginning of time, everyone spoke American. Oh, there we go. Oh, my God. And I think American is a language. And also, what's wrong with fentanyl? And also, use promo code Conan for your black tar heroin needs. Let me tell you. Hey, so let's talk about this. You were always interested in comedy. That's always been an

interest of yours. I know you're a talented mimic. At some point, because you are a renowned singer, you get this opportunity to be in the office, voice on the Simpsons. You get to start playing in that, on those little playing fields of comedy, and you have a facility for it and you really enjoy it. And that must just been, I mean, you have fans who are comedy fans of yours who don't know that I sing. Who don't know you sing. That's very true. And if they're just tuning in right now, they think, oh, they have the comedian Josh Grobin on.

And then they're like, oh, wow, he sings. Yeah. In fact, thank you for that opportunity on the Oscars to present my singing voice. Yeah, yeah. I thought you should finally be heard out. Done wonders from my streaming. Yeah. So I talked about those first years of my career where I just felt like a shell of myself.

Part of that was because I felt like a huge part of my brain was just going on tapped. And, you know, in high school, I got to work with that choir teacher, but then I also got to start an improv troupe. I had a free period. And we had a black box theater. And when everybody else was just having snacks and, you know, what do kids do, rolling the dice? And I don't know. Wow. You really had no social life. You really had no social life. You really had no childhood. You know, and you, you know, they were trading cards and you run down the street in your buckle shoes. Smoking cloves and, you know, I don't know what they were doing. Like one of those rims that goes down the street.

That's right. That's it. Yeah, I was playing hoop and stick all the way home. Hoop and stick already had a butter churn. And so they said you got anything you want to do. We got an hour free period. And I asked my theater teacher. I said, can we do improv? I'd taken some classes.

This is actually a very funny side quest. Is that in the Valley, there's a theater called LA Connection Comedy Theater. That's it. In the Valley. And I was one of the youngest people they had there taking class. is there. They now have a very strange painting of me on their wall. If you drive down, I think it's victory, one of the streets in Burbank, I think it's next to like, there's a trophy

shop on one side and a gun store on the other. And then there's this improv building. And it's got like me and Will Ferrell, who I guess went there and Matthew Perry's face is on there. But we all look like bizarre versions of ourselves. Any tribute painting of someone is by definition weird. The faces are kind of bent and weird, you know. There are no paintings of me anywhere as a singer. Yeah. But for some reason, Ellie Connection was like, this guy, this improv master, we must have him on there. But improv was like an escape for me.

So I started there. And then, you know, for the vast majority of the beginning of my career, the label and everybody else was like, you have to be the guy who's on the billboard all the time. You cannot stray from the brand of singing these serious songs and being the serious guy on the pedestal because people are getting an emotion from the songs. and you don't want to ruin that. Honestly, it started with Kimmel. He gave me, he said, you know, because I wasn't getting couch time. And you, giving me couch time,

like being allowed to talk and show my personality, it was not something as a singer you normally get to do. Kimmel said we've got a panda that is not mating right now. I think it's Lingling the Panda. Would you do a skit where you sing a ballad trying to make the pandas horny? Right, right. And I was like, here we go. And away we go.

And so that was the first. It worked. That's the only important thing. Yes. There's a little Josh the panda. It's, it's, no, there was, I think, I think that worked. I don't know. But then he had me back to sing Kanye West tweets.

Right. And then he had me back to sing Trump's tweets back when we could laugh. And, um, those were good times. And so just, I think, and then friends that I knew that did these shows said, we've got a funny little thing or we want you to play yourself in a bizarre way. Sure. Yeah. And I just always said yes.

I said yes to all of them because for me, it was my way of just kind of exercising some of that stuff that I felt I wasn't able to be myself. It's freeing. It's fun. So yeah, that's important. Do you have, this just fascinates me, but let's say you're singing something like, you know, unchained melody or some song that had, where you have to hit these heights and you know those notes are coming? Do you ever get in your head about that? Or you just at this point, no, oh, I know exactly what to do there, which I'm sure you do, but when you have to take it up several octaves. Yeah, you might be training for a long time. You might technically know that the notes are in your range. Yeah. But it's it takes a lot of kind of practice mentally to get yourself to a place where you just decide to say. And it's not because you don't care, but there has to be a certain amount of fuck it. Because if you care that much, oftentimes the mind and the voice are connected, you're going to get tense. And then the more you say, God, I hope it comes out. The sick thing about it is the more you're going to regret how it came out. I don't know if you're aware of this,

but you sometimes say fuck it out loud. Oh, did I? Did I? No, no, no, no, what I'm saying is I watched you do the National Anthem once. And when it came to Rockets Red glare, and this was in front of a huge stadium filled with children, you said, you said, fuck it. That's right. And it's like, don't do that. When you're timing the jets, sometimes you have to vamp. It's just, I tried to stretch. You know, you see the camera guys going, you know, doing this.

And it's like, fuck it. All right. I think you should start when you're going to hit a really great, impressive note saying, watch this, just before you do it. You break out of the song and go, watch this. There was a singer, I won't name him, but there was a singer kind of, there was a tenor that I used to see that was kind of coming up around the same time. And he used to do something before he did high notes where he'd be about to sing the high note,

he'd go, yeah. And I just would go, get this. Here we. Watch this. I don't like that at all. I just, yeah. Yeah, check me out. If I did that, if I want, it definitely wouldn't come out.

Like, that's a surefire way to jinx a high note. I would completely go this other guy's way. Yes, you would. I would go the other way and glorify. My favorite thing is to say, check this out and then fail. I think it's the funniest thing in the world to me is watch this and then wipe out. And then completely wipe out. I think that's very funny.

Yeah, you don't start your Oscar monologue with, check this out. All right, here we go. All right, what says, hey, you ready to laugh? Watch this. Yeah, did you see that that movie is so-and-so? Yeah, so-and-so. You know, boy, that would be awful. That's a good joke, by the way.

I did have one performance where I was kind of sick. I was with David Foster. By the way, I should preface by saying he's been the most supportive and he's been a great mentor. But there was one time where I think he knew that I should just buckle up and sing the note. And I was being kind of a baby about it. I had a cold. And I said, David, this song, please, we just make sure I don't say. Can I just not sing the note tonight?

Can I sing around it? Yeah, yeah, no problem. No problem. We get out there, gets up to the note. He's got a mic at the piano right. And he goes, here comes the money note. Right before. And that was a lesson learned.

That was like, and by the way, because I was so surprised that he said it, popped right out. Sure. And it was like, you know, tough love. Yeah. Oh, why? Yeah. A lot of phlegm got spit out in that moment. Yeah.

Okay. There's another question. So I'm driving around listening to cinematic and, you know, the breakfast at Tiffany's theme, Moon River. Moon River, which you do with your dad. And then it evolves into bickering at one point.

It does. You apparently left the milk out and it was overnight. Dishes will never get done. River. There's no duet with me and my dad. The fuck it in that one is very faint. It comes after the jazzy key change. It's a little off mic.

How cool to get to do that with your dad is amazing. One of one experience. Yeah. I, great, great musical arranger, Vince Mendoza gave us that beautiful arrangement. And there was always a moment in the song for an instrumental. And I had great trumpet players that I'd kind of reached out to get feelers. I talked to Winton Marsalis and Terrence Blanchard, my heroes to say, hey, I'm doing this song. Would you be interested?

And they both said, send me in. And then I said to myself, you know, my favorite trumpet player is also my favorite person. And my dad is turning 80 to the summer. He hasn't played the trumpet anyway in any way professionally since the six. Right. And I asked him. I said, if I, I know you played Moon River as a kid, if I got you to rehearse, you had two weeks notice, do you think you could get the lip and do you think you could do it? And he says, well, let me see. And he unzipped his trumpet, you know, case that had dizzy Gillespie for president on it. And it was dusty. It hadn't been open since like the 70s. And, you know, every time I'd call the house, I'd say, mom, how's he doing? I'm going. He's rehearsing. And I said, how's it going? Dad. He's good, good. You know, I actually think I might be able to do this. So Greg Wells, our producer, set it up. I said, look, this is going to be my. dad. I want this to be special and we need to have some patience. He hasn't played in a while. So Greg's credit, he said, we got to do this at Sunset Sound, which was Louis Armstrong's favorite studio in L.A. And then he called and they said, you know, we actually still have Louis' stool. So if you want,

we could set out the stool for your dad to sit on and we got the old mics he used to record into. And I'm going, this is just turning into not just a song, but like a core memory family moment. My whole family showed up. And my brother and my sister-in-law, my two-year-old nephew who's walking around and, you know, I got pictures of my dad playing the trumpet for him. And it was just, you know, it, and he crushed it. He totally crushed it. So I got my musicality from him. He went into business. His mom said, that's no way to make a living. And to have a song that is a tribute and a thank you for what he put in my DNA is just, it's the best. It's the best thing I've ever recorded. My father-in-law is an incredibly talented musician. And, you know, great. You can play

jazz guitar and that kind of Dixieland style. And he's just, I mean, he can play like Django Reinhardt stuff. Oh, great. And he's really terrific, and he would always sit in with other bands and stuff. And he played at our wedding. And he's someone who, that's what was his, his real love, but he thought, well, you know, I'm married, I'm getting married, and I'm going to have kids, and I must be responsible. So he, you know, worked in insurance.

Right. And there's so many people who are great artists. I think we live in a culture now of, this is my dream and I must do it. And there's so many people who make decisions that this is what I want. I want a stable income from my family. And they do that.

So people like your dad. And he could really wail. We have one recording of a live performance he had in the 60s. And he was, I mean, truly phenomenal. And, you know, he became an executive recruiter. You know, he's a headhunter. You know, he goes out and finds jobs for people. And he's brilliant at.

And he's got, luckily, I don't have that side of the brain. If I wasn't doing this, I'd be lost. But he has also the business he can focus, like really focus and he can do that and he's great at it. But for him to watch me do it for a living, my brother's a director to kind of watch our artistic endeavors blossom. Right. Has I think been really good.

But also, and you're able to do that because. Well, yeah. He was responsible and did what he had to do. Sit down. That's exactly right. Is that he went into to do what he did to make sure. that we were able to say, hey, I liked going to the theater. Can I join the theater camp?

You know, can I get a, can I get an instrument to play myself? And that is the greatest, the greatest service he could have ever possibly done for us. Yeah. I think our final message here is don't pursue your dreams. You know what I mean? Don't. Speak English. Yeah.

Do heroin. I call it American. Oh, sorry. Speak American, do heroin. Deny your dreams. Deny your dreams. Yeah. I call old English original American.

1100 AD English to me is like, yeah, that was American. And then they made it English. Yep, I'm a moron that just doesn't quit. Well, latest album, cinematic, it's really, it's amazing. And also, I mean, I was thinking, do you ever just drive around and listen to yourself and enjoy it? Or is that impossible?

Well, there's so much of that that happens when you're doing mixes. And you've got to make sure you're listening with a critical lens because you just want to make sure that everything is balanced right. So, I mean, yes, you accidentally get chills sometimes. You say, well, I sounded good. Oh, that really sounds great. You prick. Yeah, it's true.

Ah, here comes the high note. Ah, yeah. I'm going to rent you a convertible, and we're going to get a bumped up sound system, and you're going to listen to cinematic driving around L.A. And people are going to see you listening to yourself and pointing at yourself at stoplights. I'm going to point at you. Yeah. I'm going to say, what a voice, eh?

Josh, this has been a real delight. Same here. Thank you so much. You were a teenager, I believe, when I met you. And you were, again, really sweet, really funny. And I thought, and now here you are. And you're an incredibly, incredibly good guy and terrific artists. So glad to know you.

And thanks again for your help. Listen, thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for being an inspiration for so many years. You make it look easy. I know how hard it is and you're just such a beacon of life for so many. So this is the one. I'm going to stick the landing here with some take it. Take it.

Well, you heard it here. I'm a huge influence musically. You are. I'm a, Josh Grover. Hearing your Danny boy really. Oh, tiny boy. The pipes, the pipes. Maybe I can do this for a living.

Turner Bryan goes broke in one month. Josh, thank you. In celebration of your upcoming appearance in the new Toy Story movie. Toy Story 5. Yeah. Yeah. The new one. Yeah.

Okay. We have something special to show you. Oh, my God. It's out. Oh, how cool. Look at that. This is my character. His name is Smarty Pants.

It's a toy for the listener. It's a toy for, um... Well, basically, my character in Toy Story 5 is a potty training. device. And so I think this must be my voice, right? Hello, hello there. Pick a number. I mean, that could be me. Yeah, I think it's you. No, it's, I mean, I recorded these. You recorded specifically for the toy, or did they take the sound bits from the movie? No, they had me do it for the toy. Do it here. And I was like, I was like, you know what, I'm never, that. That's you. That is me. So, what's that? So, what's that? You

did it here in this studio. Yeah, I did it. It doesn't shut up. It must be you. It won't shut up. Okay. Oh, no. You know what I did? I decided they're like, you know what's so weird? I'm being interrupted by myself. Finally, there's karma. Oh, my God. I can't get him to shut up. It's motion activated.

Dude, are you done? Oh, he's motion activated. That's what the problem is. Yeah, it is. It is multi-indicated. Oh, it does say it right around the box. Can you turn it upside down? I'm just going to put it on the floor for a second. And then can you yourself go on the floor too? And can I be boxed and put into storage by a collector? Yeah, they said, oh, do you want to, you know, I guess they can use a different voice, but they said, do you want to do your voice for the toy?

And I remember thinking, I'm never going to be a toy again. Yeah, I want to be a toy. I want to be the voice of a toy. You get a little extra, they negotiate. I do not think so. No, no. Well, this is. This is the opposite of a cash crab.

Yeah, this is not that. This is, I mean, and I don't care because it's to be part of the toy story saga, it was just a delight. And to be in the same company of these amazingly creative people and these huge stars. So I was just super happy to do it. But, yeah, so now it's a toy. I wonder when my youngest daughter gets potty trained if we'll use that. I think your wife will mix that. But what if you find out people are using it

and children all over the world are getting constipated? An epic. There's an epidemic of constipation among children. We think we found the... Yeah, kids just seize up when they hear my voice. I love that the time you're in a Pixar movie, it's when you're a roll of toilet paper.

Well, that's how the toy looks, but I'm not a roll of toilet paper. I know, but that's what it's modeled after. It's a roll of toilet paper. Toil, yeah, you look like a roll of toilet paper. No, you're looking it at the wrong way. It's literally a roll of toilet. No, no.

Oh, my God, your eyes light up. Okay. You just talked over my toy, which is so you. My toy was trying to talk, and you in typical Sona fashion. They should make a sona toy. Okay, I'm glad I didn't talk over that. Let me see this thing. Oh, look, now, I like when you put it face down and he's just talking into the table.

Alone again. Wow That's smarty pants When he's low on battery And he sounds drunk Oh That's my method as an actor Oh, that's good

Now I have to be honest As we record this I've not seen the movie yet So I don't know what's going to happen This could be the end of me Really? What?

Are you joking? You just never know No, you're joking It's going to be great I do not want to be the guy that fucks up Toy Story 5. Oh, you're stupid. Don't say that. Maybe you'll get a spinoff.

What if I leave the podcast to go double down on my smarty pants? What if I start touring and I'm in a smarty pants costume? You go to conventions? I go to conventions and I have, you know, I'm one of those. I just do this a lot and take pictures with people. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. Yeah.

That'll work. Anyway, so that's it. I am the voice of a toilet training toy. This is exciting. Are you excited? Now, this is a big deal for you. you, animation and Disney and all that, right? Well, I'm not like one way or the other on Disney cartoons, but Toy Story and Pixar, they're

pretty amazing. And plus, now that I have a daughter that I go to the movies with, this is going to be amazing. Will you take her to see Toy Story 5? Absolutely. We go see a lot. We love going to movies. So, I mean, this would be, sometimes we're stretching to find a decent movie. The only thing I've seen, I go to the premiere tomorrow and I will see the movie for the first time. And there are whole chunks of the movie. I don't know because they only give you your part. But one of the things that they did let me see was the opening of the movie. And it's just stunning. Are you in that or do you have a live? I'm not in it. No, I'm not seen. Give a grand entrance of it. No, I mean, I don't know. I have not seen anything to do with my part. I'm totally

in the dark. So, but they show the opening of the movie, which is quite cinematic and amazing. and I just, they are, because David Hopping and I got to go to Pixar to record my parts, and it is, they're formidable these people. They're just really amazing. Are you going to take the boys? I am. Yeah. And when he comes on screen, are you going to whisper to them?

I have complicated feelings about that character. I think, no, they know that Uncle Conan's in the next Toy Story movie. They don't know which part I am. They have no idea which part you're in. Just tell him I'm Woody. Oh, my God. God, that's blasphemy. Absolutely not.

No way. Do you get to go to Disneyland for free? That's one of the perks of being like a Disney employee. Do you have a badge? No. Okay. So you're not like, you were just like temporarily there if you wanted to go to Disneyland for free or get tickets for somebody who wants to go to Disneyland for free?

I think they got what they needed from me. Okay. And I will be, and even if I try to purchase a legitimate ticket to Disneyland, they will probably tell me I can't have it. You know, we floated the idea of the three of us going to Disneyland and recording there. I think we should do that. I do that. Sure.

Yeah. I would do that. Yeah. I love Disney. I took a date to Disneyland once years ago. How old were you? I was when I was first living out here. So it would have been like 1986.

I would have been 23. How was it the date? It was a good date. Yeah. It was a great date. It was a good date. Yeah. That's a great date.

awkwardness out of it because there's so much to do. Why would there be awkwardness with me? What are you talking about? Did you make her go to like the Hall of Presidents? I, it gets worse. I took her to the Hall of Presidents and then made her, we stayed because I wanted to see each president talk multiple times. And then she got upset when I said, I told her she started to say something and said,

quiet, it's Martin Van Buren coming up. He was the sage. I said he was the sage of Kinderhook. And she went, what? And I said old Kinderhook, upstate New York. Martin Van Buren, his lineage was, they were Dutch. And then I snapped at her. And I never saw her again.

She left in tears. And then Martin Van Buren looked at me and went, you are a dick, sir. He knows so much about Martin Van Buren. He said, you know more about me than I do. And then Martin Van Buren said, she looked hot. And then Lincoln said, sure did. You fucked up, son. And then all the-

You cock-blocked yourself, young man. You cock-blocked yourself, and that's hard to do. And then all the presidents just spent like 40 minutes telling me what an absolute. They had a roast. They just went after me. I would watch the whole president's roasting. There was a Kevin Hart, a Kevin Hart robot came out. And he said, I'm not a president, but I want in on this.

And then he went after me. And so it was all the presidents and Kevin Hart roasting me. for making my girlfriend go see the Hall of Presidents. Anyway, she fled. Never to return again. That's great. Anyway, Toy Story 5, do it, man. I don't know.

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