Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

Actors Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson feel very Irish and like a True American, respectively, about being Conan O’Brien’s Friend. Matthew and Woody sit down with Conan to discuss how they... first met, their very different approaches to acting, how much of their new show Brothers is based on their real-life personas, and whether they might actually be brothers. Plus, Conan responds to an article about a missing Conan O’Brien commemorative plaque.  Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hey, my name is Matthew McConaughey, and I feel very Irish about being Conan O'Brien friend. That's an insult that I'll take it. Hi, my name is Woody Harrelson, and I feel like a true American about being on Conan O'Brien's. You are a true American. I know you and I align in many of our views. One of our great patriots. Brand new shoes, walking loose, climb the fence, books and pens, I can tell that we are going to be friends. I can tell that we are going to be friends. Hey there, it's Connor O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:00:49 This is Connor O'Brien needs a friend, the podcast that I think brings joy and beauty to every single person on the planet Earth. This podcast brings beauty? I know, beauty is the one I guess. I also said to every single person on Earth, which is maybe a slight exaggeration. I'm joined by my good chum Sonoma Sessian. Hey, Sona. Hi. Matt Gourley. Hi. Dr. Gourley, good to see you.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And I'm told that our techno whiz are audiophile extraordinaire. Eduardo has a little something he wants to say. Eduardo, what's going on? I do. I have a gift for you, actually. Oh. I don't know if you're going to like it or not. But just to give you context, when we first built the studio and we were, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:27 we were debating on what mics to have, the table, everything, the walls, what it would look like. One of the things I had thought about at that time was getting you. a microphone that you had for your TBS show, Conan. Do you remember that mic? Yeah, beautiful mic. I think it was, what was it, it has certain kind of, was it red? Yes. Yeah, beautiful red microphone.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Oh, there it is. There I am with Seth Rogen. Oh, is that a ribbon mic? That's a condenser mic. I knew it. Yes, it's a 414. And anyhow, so it's a very cool looking mic. I always love the look of that mic and I just love,
Starting point is 00:02:00 and I love that little shot of dark. dark, dark red. It was so cool. But like it was also kind of unnecessary, right? Yeah, I always wondered about that too. How much of that is for show? No, we've discussed that before that I would always say, why do we have a mic on the desk? Now, a lot of it's just an aesthetic nod to the early days of television, the early shows, talk shows.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It were really invented in America. Steve Allen, Jack Pard, Johnny Carson, David Letterman. I think I've named all the hosts. they all have a microphone on the desk because that's what we had to do then. Subsequently, you've got all these boom mics hanging. Everyone's got a lavalier clipped to them with a mic pack. And the thought was sometimes I'd say,
Starting point is 00:02:48 why do we have this? I get that it's an aesthetic nod to the past, but is it unnecessary? Turns out they would always tell me sometimes the mics go out and we need to switch over to that mic that's on your desk, which they did a couple of times. So they have a use.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Yeah. And they look cool. And that one specifically looked cool because of the red grill that you were talking about. That was custom made. So I thought, oh, it would be cool to use that one for you here. And I tried to track it down. I went to Skills one of your long time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Skills is my guitar tech for many, many years. It worked on the show. It took me a while to wrap my head around the fact that you have people working for you, names Skills and Chills. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But anyhow, so that nobody. I'm going by thrills.
Starting point is 00:03:32 from you. Hey, thrills. Nobody could locate the mic. So even to this day, I don't know. I don't know where it is either. So what I did was I was able to get it recreated. What? That's what I got here. Wait a minute. This is huge.
Starting point is 00:03:49 You can open it if you like. Wait a minute. This is from all of us, by the way. Oh, that old move. Wait a minute. Are you, is this for real? Oh, my God. God, this is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Look at that. How did you do that? How'd you get it? Shout out to Dave Ozinga, Mike Tech in Glendale. Dave Ozinga. So did Dave Ozinga, is this the same technology? Same model, similar model, rather. And yeah, he custom painted it for, put it back together for us.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And it's usable. So the idea is that, I think, beginning today, we can use this. Yes, and it would be your mic. Oh, but that means when I leave the room and some other big wig comes in here to do another podcast, like say Ted Danson, I never want to see Ted Danson's face within six miles of this microphone. It's mine. It won't be. It won't be. Shout out to Ted. We love Ted. I love you and you're a better man than me in every single way. But if you ever talk into this mic, I will find you and I will have. Someone with me who's strong enough to fight you. So if you give me two minutes, obviously we'll cut around this. I can actually swap it. What is this?
Starting point is 00:05:07 My wedding night. I can swap it now. Oh, come on. Yeah. Wait, do we get special microphones too? Yeah. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:15 That's okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. This is amazing. Edward. Hey, let's hear for Eduardo. Yay. Hey.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Sure. I mean, thank you so much. Is he going to sound? Sorry, it took me so long. To buy you that giant diamond. Okay. Give me something. Test, test, test. Testing, testing, one, two, three, testing, testing,
Starting point is 00:05:33 Bumblebee, testing, testing all day long. We sing the testing testing, testing song. Right. And now let me just make sure the setting on it is, correct? Okay, we're making sure, I mean, this is incredible. For those of you just tuning in, doesn't make sense. Eduardo has replaced my iconic TBS microphone that was this beautiful mic. Again, can you give me the specifics on what this is? This is AKG 414. AKG 414. 414.
Starting point is 00:05:59 414, yes. Oh, yes, that's remember. I remember it was the model. It was the 414s. Those are very good. And who makes this? AKG is the brand. It was originally manufactured in Austria or Vienna.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Originally, these were made out of a dark chocolate. And they realized it. By the Vermeck. Yeah. Nice. Nice to always add that in there. I didn't say Nazis? Just the German army.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So, and you know it's great? It was, the microphone was in a case that was packed with this. I pulled it out and then realized I can do my greatest prompt bit. Hey folks, it's asymmetrical A. Blinken. Oh, no. Using his electric razor. Oh, no. The mic.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Oh, yeah, that's right. This is, Eduardo, this is so thoughtful of you. That is really nice. At least I could do. Remember, point it up so that the capsule's facing you. Okay, the capsule facing me. Yeah, there you go. I think I just hit a button next.
Starting point is 00:06:52 There's two lights on it right now. Should there be two lights going, green lights? Oh, this is not going to be a disaster. I know. And I think I hit a button. This is a good tutorial. You sound good, so I'm not worried. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Will it... The other thing that... Matt, you were saying, while they were switching... While Eduardo was switching us over to this mic, you said, what if it looks cool as it does? It looks amazing. But what if it has, like, really old-fashioned bad sound quality?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah. And I was thinking it's like the guy who narrated the Hindenburg explosion. Oh, the humanity! The humanity! And I'll be talking to, like, some hip, young, cool person here. You know, and I'll totally just go off the rails. Why are you changing your voice?
Starting point is 00:07:35 That's the microphone does that. Because it's an old style microphone, I'm speaking normally. Yeah. In fact, as we go into intro our guests, why don't you take us out with some classic little mic moment? What? I've been up all night. I've been up all night. Classic mic mic.
Starting point is 00:07:52 My daughter's teething. Oh, so it's not the drugs. What would be a classic mic moment? Well, that's a good question, and I'm glad you asked it. And let me see if I can find out what that would be. Is it a moment that involves a mic? Just like it takes like a speech, you know? A little soliloquy.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah. We have nothing to fear, but fair itself. There we go. That's your thing. I was thinking about when John Travolta mispronounced Adina Menzel's name. He said a classic moment from history. That is enough. I go with Franklin Roosevelt's first inaugural.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And you go with the John Travolta mispronunciation. Adele Dazine. I will never forget that. That will be my last thought the day I die. To be fair, Franklin Roosevelt in his second inaugural, wanted to bring up Edina Mansell and went, Adele Dazim would be joining me to help us in our war against poverty. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Nice work, Eduardo. Eduardo, you're a really good man. I thank you so much. This is beautiful. And I think this gives us us a little pizzazz. It gives us an edge, too, you know. It definitely gives us an edge. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah. Well, don't follow through on any of my things. I don't know. I'm sorry, yeah, I'm just trying to follow up and figure out what's going on. All right, let's do it. Hey, I'm excited. Oh, me too. My guest today are two Hollywood Legends who now star in the new Apple TV Plus comedy series,
Starting point is 00:09:23 brothers. I think everyone loves these guys. I love them so much. And they have such great chemistry together, and I'm just thrilled to have both of these. I'm going to say gentlemen in the room. Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, welcome. Gentlemen, I watched your show. I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 They let me watch the first episode. And getting to see that first episode was like getting a hold of the nuclear codes. Apple doesn't mess around. They said, Conan, it's a four-hour process to watch this TV show that will be available within hours everywhere. But the amount of codes and verifications, and I had to do a cheek swab, but I saw the show and I really enjoyed it. There's a lot of fun. And what I love about it is you guys, I mean, if people want to know what is this show about, it's you guys being you. I know your, fictionalized versions of yourselves, but I do not think you are. I think it's basically you guys
Starting point is 00:10:25 being you. Is that a fair thing to say? It's a somewhat, shall we say, exalted version. It's the baseline. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm probably, I'm a little more orderly than Captain Chaos here. Yes. But we, we set that up. Well, let's really lean into that and make me Texas rancher, going to run for governor, everything.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Don't you mess with my plan and let Captain Chaos, Woody, come in and honk, honk, and blow it all up. Right. And how does that work? No, a fire at a tire factory is orderly compared to Woody. You are. And I'm telling you. The last time I talked to him in this space, he showed up fresh from a, he was late because he crashed his motorcycle getting here. And Ted Danson had to put bandages on him as we were doing the podcast.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Why do you, this happened? This is the only reason, Woody's gotten so much better on showing up on time to sets than he used to be in the past. And the only reason you were ever later, the only problem, the only kind of problem to production you ever were on this set were on money. day you'd show up with a fresh new big scar on your head or something. And one of the times it was from you had a motorcycle accident riding through two acres of an open parking lot that had one rock sitting in the middle that he hit. And you managed to hit that one rock. That's sadly true. But, you know, that one was not so much my fault. I was going around the left and the guy didn't have his blinker on. Yeah. And he hit me. Here's what was your fault. The first thing you said to me
Starting point is 00:11:57 when you came in is, I think I lost one of my flip flops. And then I was thinking, that's funny. I ride a motorcycle. I've never worn a flip flop when I'm riding a motorcycle. I wear like an armored boot. It's subop. I'm going to finish that. It's suboptimal.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Because Woody is so time pressured that he can't say optimal. It's sub-off. It's a kind of. Economy, economy emotion. Economy of words. I respect it. Now, Woody's not yet. A helmet sounds like a mandate to him, not a good idea. A pair of shoes, don't you tell me what to do. Flip-flop and a beret. That's how I'm going to ride around. I like to say this. I'm going to say this line again. I said it in the news that I put out today.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But if you're going to the Oscars or to a J.P. Morgan board of directors meeting with Woody, it's best to bring your swimsuit. Yes. You put you, I get relaxed. I get relaxed looking at you, Woody. The opening shot of the pilot episode of your show is you with inhaling some herbs, looking out at the sea. You look like the happiest guy in the world. You got your surfboard.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You're in Malibu. You, I know, there's this thing is, you don't sweat the small stuff. And don't sweat the, and you don't sweat the, and you don't. I don't sweat the big stuff either. I don't think you sweat anything. It's fantastic. Yeah, I sweat. He has this. I know this. Go ahead. I know his secret on this. This is like a marriage counseling session. Go ahead. What were you going to say? Well, you do sweat. You do sweat. You do sweat. But he does water off a duck's back most things you cannot tell. Right. You go ahead. You know what story I'm going to tell. I love this story. I don't think Woody has to be here for this.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Don't you go out. He knows his story. It's a beautiful story. But it is the key to what I think you're talking about. one of what his genius is. One day on True Detective, he's walking around and I can tell the guy's got a black cloud on his shoulders. My buddy's just, he's hunched. And I'm like, man, it must be really big because you can't ever tell if he's got a problem and I'm saying, hey, you want to have lunch. He comes by the trade, we have lunch, talking to him.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He tells me what the problem is. It's worth the black cloud, meaning I'm going, holy shit, man, if that happened to me, if I was in this situation, I wouldn't even be able to show up to work. Right. You're here, and I only as your good friend could notice you were in a funk. And I'm like, dude, you have all the things that go on in your life that are problems and all this stuff. And the way you deal with it. It's like water off the ducks back. How do you deal with the problems in your life? Yeah. And he's crying and sobbing and snots running out of his nose. And I'm crying as his buddy, man. And he was sitting there. And he takes a minute and he thinks about it. He wipes his eyes. And he looks at me. He goes, man, I just forget about it.
Starting point is 00:14:49 So all these years that I've been in therapy has been a waste of time. Yeah. You got to learn to forget. Just forget about it, you know? Forget about AI and global war. Just forget about it. What's the big deal? Yeah, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You guys are friends in real life. You can tell right away, you can finish each other's sentences. You're both guys from Texas. How far apart did you grow up from each other? Born in Midland, born Evaldi, that's seven, eight hours away from each other in Texas, didn't know each other then obviously, but he went to Houston, then to Ohio, and in New York, and we didn't meet until we were both sort of living in L.A. And you don't really know when you met.
Starting point is 00:15:38 You disagree about when you met because Woody, you forget everything. Do you remember when you guys met? Well, that I do remember, and he's forgotten, which is we met at a, it was a CAA, party, I guess, and I saw him there and I walked up to him and said, hey, man, how are you doing? He says, hi. What do you think? Should we get a shot? Tequila?
Starting point is 00:16:02 And he's like, one o'clock. It's one o'clock. He says, I got a lot to do today. And I'm like, oh, well, so one little shot at tequila is going to keep you from your, what's, what's that have to do with anything? So he did. He took a, he took a shot with me. So you guys did a shot. You don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:16:21 No. And then he went on with his day. I went on with mine. I mean, it was just a brief meeting, not memorable to him, but to me. What I remember. I thought I liked this guy. Sure. As I started to like this guy, I heard him before I saw him.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And it was on Ed TV. We're doing a war show. You did a movie together, yeah. Fitting. And I was before him, and I'm on the second floor in San Francisco, one of those apartments. Windows open. You know, you got steep streets in San Francisco. what I hear outside the window is this metal on concrete walking.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And I go and look out the window and walking up the street is this guy in a full Tour de France road cycling uniform with the clip on shoes. No bike. Not even carrying a bike. Well, who needs a bike when you go all that cool stuff? Just cruising the streets coming this way. He walks in, comes in upstairs, walks on those beautiful brand new wooden floors, I'm sure the person was real happy about that with those shoes on. And then the wardrobe, he was like, let's talk about wardrobe. And as they got to this one, seeing, he's going to know, what about this?
Starting point is 00:17:27 And what he goes, no, I don't need that because I'm wearing my wardrobe right now. He showed up in it. And that's when I was like, I like this guy. So you decided you chose your wardrobe and you walk through the streets of San Francisco wearing it. And the wardrobe asked the question that I asked, but you're going to wear those shoes and you don't have A bike? Exactly. He said. I had a bike. What happened to it? We don't know. I rode the bike to the place and, you know, I love his version though. I don't want to interfere with his version. You may have a bike, but you parked it a couple blocks away. Well, you know, you have to, you got to find a parking space. You find a spot to lock the bike. The whole idea of a bike is that you can pull up to the place. You don't. You don't look for a spot.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You could even carry it into the place. You did not do that that day. I didn't want to carry it all the way up the stairs. I saw nobody. Gentlemen, heard nobody. What are we doing? What are we doing here? Gentlemen, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:18:41 I want to ask you guys about your approach to work. You're both fantastic actors, your iconic actors, but you've got to have a different approach. Like a true detective, which was so fantastic. what is the different philosophies of acting or do you approach it the same way? I'm guessing you don't. We approach it a little differently.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Well, this guy's the most hyper-prepared actor you can imagine. I think it came off of a time that he wasn't prepared. Embarrassment. Which is a kind of a cool story too, but it is a fun story. Do you want to tell that?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Well, he just said it's embarrassing and then you said you should tell it. Yeah. And Matthew, but it's a you're called Matthew. It's wonderful. So I got cast early in my career in 1995 or something in a one-day role in this independent film. And this was at a time where I was not getting roles. I was getting callbacks and the third callback, but not getting the role.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And it's because I just started to learn what acting was. I never went to acting school. When you start to learn something, you get a little heady about it, right, before it's instinctual. And in these auditions, I just wasn't kind of going for it. And I was tight and I was too conservative. and I was thinking too much. So I get offered this one day roll. It's a drug lord on the southern border in Texas, Mexico.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The coyotes come over with my drugs. Bang, bang, bang, I shoot them up. Steal the drugs don't pay them. That's it. So I get in there and I'm like, look, I know what I'm going to do. I need to go back and start acting like I did when I began. Days confused. I've never acted before.
Starting point is 00:20:13 There weren't lines. They just threw me in scenes I improvised. I know my man and I'll do what my man would do. So when I get the bright idea that I'm not going to read the script. I'm not even going to read the scene. I'm just going to, you give me that layout, drug lord on the border? I'll do what my man would do. So I show up on the day, fully confident.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And right before we go to our march, right before action, I get a little nervous. The sweat runs down to back my neck. I said, hang on, time. Can I get a pair of sides, which is the small copy of it? And I read the sides because I'm thinking, hey, if it's written well, that's exactly what I would say. And if it's not written well, I'll just be my man and say what I would say. Page one. Page two.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Page three, page four. And I say, can I get 12 minutes, please? Why? Because it was a four-page monologue by my guy. Oh, my God. In Spanish. Oh, no. And you were like, all right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:21:17 C, C. C. So my thinking is that 12 minutes is not too long to inconvenience the crew, but 12 minutes is also long enough for me to memorize a 4-page monologue in Spanish because, hey, I took Spanish scene to the 11th grade in the case. Well, it didn't inconvenience the crew, but it was not long enough to learn. Yeah, figured out. Anyway, I don't remember what I did in that scene. I've never watched it.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I'm not able to watch it. But on the drive home, I pulled over and was bawling and beating myself up. been so angry about the feeling of embarrassment that I had of not being prepared from that day on. I said, I'll be over prepared if I can be. Maybe too prepared, but F, F, that, man, it was a horrible feeling. Yeah. Anyway, one of those deals we get a bright idea, forget about it. I had a bright idea.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So he is like the most hyper-prepared person. And so like in his airstream that he had when we were doing a true detective, he had this long graph that went all the way across the wall of the airstream that, okay, this happens here, this happens here, you know, so put it all, because obviously you don't film in order. I guess that's not obvious to a lot of people, but you don't film in order. So it would orient you, oh, this just happened, and now this is about to happen. So he'd had it all mapped out. He's hyper prepared, and I'd walk into the Airstream. Okay, where are we here? Oh, okay. Okay, good. Let's go. Who am I, by the way? Oh, okay. I get it. Here you're Rustin. I'm Marty. No. You know, so I just piggyback off of his preparedness.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Well, we worked different in that in that film. There's a funny instance because he and I had done a couple of films together and then in life for more sort of where who starts where, who ends where, and we can finish each other's sentence as you were saying. And it's comedic, it's a jive. And those were two characters that were not jiving. And I remember him saying to me early on, you're like, dude, I think we've got to lighten this up some places. You got to have some jokes.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And jokes and stuff. And he goes, right now we're rehearsing. And it's kind of like, I hit you the ball. And then you just stand there. Yeah. And wait to the ball, bounces past you, you hits the backstop, and comes to rest. And you're still just staring at me.
Starting point is 00:23:45 that's not our gig, man. We hit the ball back to each other. And I just stared at him and he goes, what? I go, well, I think that might be, end up being kind of funny. If my character's just the guy who stands there doesn't hit the ball back. And he's like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Anyway, I think we had enough few. I think there's some humor in there. Yeah. No, but it's also, it's like situational comedy. It's like there are situations sometimes in scenes where my only, because I don't do this a lot, but the one time I did Larry's, David's show, I realized, I was like looking at the script and I realized, oh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:24:21 My job is to not give Larry what he wants. And then I realized that's everything in Larry David's show. He wants X. And if you're a scene partner with him, your job is to not give it to him. And then he does. It's the opposite of yes and. Yes. It's no.
Starting point is 00:24:38 No. No. Yeah. No, but. Exactly. And in acting, that would be called you give him the obstacle for him to I'd overcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. But boy, they do, you know, as you know, like the intricacy of the plot, they really map it out beautifully. And then, you know, you wing it. How long is, how long is like a typical curb script? Oh, it's, you know, it might be eight, nine, ten pages, but just of the plot. Of the plot, okay. You know, and they, they'd sometimes throw in a few lines here.
Starting point is 00:25:17 They're sprinkling in, you know. Right. But, but it is, I mean, it's incredible how they did that. Like, and they do have a lot of great comedic minds. So I had a revelation, which is literally a week ago, I walk into a restaurant, outdoor restaurant. Larry David's there, his lovely wife, and they're sitting there. And so I walk up to the table to say, hi.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And Larry's in the middle of getting. into it with the waiter because the waiter brought him a turkey sandwich with no mustard. And he's like, in the history of sandwiches, you know, when has mustard not been part of the equation? And I said to him, Larry, there's no cameras. They're not. So he's just, and this gets us really nicely back to your show, which he was playing himself. He was taking his life and he just said, I would like to be paid by HBO to be the guy I am anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And then when I was watching your show, I was thinking, yes, I know that this is, we've put English on the ball for both of you. But there are essential truths about both of you because you are Matthew McConaughey in the show and you are Woody Harrelson in the show. And that's what makes it really fun for me. I mean, even when we're hanging out at your house outside Austin, which I know isn't your house, it's still, I'm thinking that must be a version of Matthew's house. Well, he don't live on a ranch. So why'd you make it a ranch? Let me just say, what? You don't live on a ranch?
Starting point is 00:26:48 No, I'm not. Fuck you. That's the only reason you're here. That gal boy. I was like, I got to get, I want to talk to Matthew about his ranch. Do you live in Malibu looking at the water? No. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:27:04 I put you chew on a pedestal. He doesn't even get high. You've never done a drug in your life? I'm totally straight-Aid. America, love it or leave it. Now I don't even know why I'm here. I'm enraged. That ranch was all green screen.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It was all AI. That's not even in Texas. It says you're shot in Connecticut. What the fuck is that? It's shot in Queens. Woody and I don't even. really have things together. You don't even like each other. Yeah, if you notice, it's just over, so they put someone to represent it. God, damn. I was so happy. I was like, I'm going to really
Starting point is 00:27:54 butter up Matthew Day because I'll get invited to that ranch. Now I find out you live in a geodesic dome. So we did originally, we were thinking to do it like curb, where you have the outline and the plot and everything. But he had cooler heads for a bit. Well, maybe a script would be a good idea. To dive into that idea, but how much we're playing ourselves. Look, we started it going, let's just base it off reality. No, what our story, our life, the real thing, we just stick to that, stick to that.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And we got off and we shot some of that and we looked at our little assembly and we both went. I think it was a double sniff. It was a double sniff. It was a double sniff. So we both had a little sniff. We both had a little joke. Not that anyone was fired, but we did need to make a pivot and go, wait a minute, let's figure how we're going to go about this.
Starting point is 00:28:47 My running joke was, man, it kind of sucks when you get fired after you've been hired to play yourself. We're going a different way with the Matthew McConaughey. We found this guy, Brick Stenson. I love Rick Stenson. It's a great amendment. imaginary actor of mine. That's, okay,
Starting point is 00:29:11 please tell me that you have a solar powered bus. I do. Okay, that part's real. That runs on turkey guts. That wasn't the actual, yeah, it runs on biodiesel. Okay. But that wasn't the actual bus.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That's just a replica. Oh, this is another great story. Oh, no, he, this, the bus. And what was painted on the bus? Yes. Particularly painted on the bus. Again, one of the reasons you're here is I loved that bus,
Starting point is 00:29:37 And I was like, what he's going to give me a ride in that bus? It's because in the show, you get the whole family and you decide, we're going through this crisis. Let's go visit Matthew. He lives outside Austin on a ranch.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And you all pile into this bus. And it's an amazing looking bus to me that you, in the show, they say it runs on solar and, you know, I think some kind of biofuel, but it's got this mural painted on the outside.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And I thought this, all right, let's hear it. about that? That mural was number one on the call sheet. That mural. All right. The scenes where the bus are in it are three weeks away, but we're already shooting some other stuff. And the bus is in the background over in the field. Yep. The biggest holdup, Woody's on time and prepared for everything. Right. But for tension span, when he'd be a shot on me and that bus was way over there in the back eye line, not at the camera, but of his eye line, he would stop in the middle of the take and go,
Starting point is 00:30:37 Why is that porpoise look like it's swimming? The color water, it's too, it's not blue enough. And he stopped. We go, Wood, that's three weeks away, man. Hang on. We got three weeks to work on that thing. And he'd like, no, no, no, hang on. Where's it?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Sarah, hey, art court, art director. Come here. Hey, let's go talk. Now, Woody, can we do that at lunchtime? Yeah, yeah, hang on just a second. And he, man, that bus was on your mind. Because that was the most, you might say that was the reason you did the project was to have them create a bus that you really loved. And are you going to take this
Starting point is 00:31:13 bus when it's over? I just can't believe how I love the way he tells the story. You know, like, there's all little bits and dibs and dabs of the truth in there for sure. But, you know, it's like between a take, I made a comment about, you know, you could do such and stuff. And then that's now forever. I was in the middle of a take and stopped the, the, the, Cut, cut, cut. The porpo's tail, too small. Yes. Remember when you were like, white, but it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Why is this thing right swimming in a desert? Remember that? Yes, that rings of truth. That rings of truth. Yeah, that was right. Okay, well, I think you're a way out of line. The court rules in favor of Matthew McConaughey. This has become a contentious trial, and I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You guys, here's what I admire about both of you. you seem to embody something I really admire because it's the exact opposite of me, which is you guys seem to have is laid back, zen, inner calm, take life as it comes, enjoy to the fullest. And Sona, would you agree that's the opposite of me? That is the opposite. Yeah, and I've watched your show. And one of the reasons I enjoyed it so much is I wanted to become, I made you too,
Starting point is 00:32:36 my spirit animals that I wanted to become. You know, yes, you're both very accomplished. But I thought, you know, if there's ever, I'm not pitching myself, but I am, do you ever want an episode where your complete opposite shows up? It would be me. I'm just telling you that right now. And it would be awful. It would be terrible because I wouldn't embody you to say, let's do a shot at Tekeone.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'd be, well, you know, hey, oh, let's talk about this. I don't know. My electro-lights. Anyway, it was just... Do you not drink? I do drink on occasion. I try not to drink that much anymore. And what about pot?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Nope. I don't do pot. Never. Whoa, what gives us the stories behind the old boy? We actually had a company send us really good high quality. Let's give them a shut up. What are they called? With Kiva, the brand and Camino's are their edibles.
Starting point is 00:33:30 They make really amazing edibles. And I took like one. I took, I bit like half of one. And then the next day I was like, this madness must end. Yeah. My addiction. I mean, it was, I don't know. He still calls it a gateway drug.
Starting point is 00:33:45 He's that guy. He's very narkey like that. Did he? Was he shooting up like the next day? Yeah. God, that was quick. Half and half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:00 But then it turned out I was shooting up a statin. I was lowering my cholesterol. It's just not my thing. No, that's good because some people, it does inflict a certain amount of paranoia. Not you, though. Not me. But it does if it's the hardcore indoor variety because of the chemicals. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:22 But what he didn't? Woody won't get high before doing this, before acting or before he works. We won't do it. No. And what about you? What's your story? No, it didn't really agree with me. The subplots become a little unmanageable.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah. That's a great description. The subplot becomes unmanageable is fantastic. You don't want his subplots to become unmanageable. Trust me, it goes haywire. I want to try and remember that for the next time someone offers me something. I'm sorry, the subplots become unmanageable. It's true, though.
Starting point is 00:34:56 It's probably true for you. Yeah. That's a great description of that. That's from my buddy Rob Binler. And it's happened when the synthetic stuff came. It's kind of when I stopped smoking. It was actually one of my birth. day parties that I was going to and my friends had rented out this club and before I was self-driving
Starting point is 00:35:12 myself there my buddy gave me this joint and I'd always smoke the under the sun stuff where you laugh, giggle, get the munchies and maybe hook up somebody. But this night I pull up and all of a sudden when I walk into the party, it's over and everyone's gone at one of the morning. Why? Because I had pulled up four hours earlier in time for my party, but I had smoked that weed and for some reason felt like it was more important to listen to Janet Jackson's, that's the way love goes, 27 times in a row, than to go into my own freaking birthday party. You know what? I have to say, not a bad subplot, though. It sounds like a really great night.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Honestly, I'm with me and Janet sitting in my car and her on the radio, 27 times and cried my ball and my eyes out. What a beautiful love song. I had no idea, the depth of this love song. And then I walk in the parties over and no one's there. I miss my own birthday party. And that's when I said, you know what? The subplot became unmanageable.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I don't think this new weed, this synthetic weed is for me. In this case, it was the plot itself became unmanageable. Yeah, not even the subplot. But I got hung up in this. I couldn't manage the subplot. I couldn't go. That's a great song. Maybe I'll just listen to it eight times.
Starting point is 00:36:29 No, I said, I'll listen to it 27 times. Yeah. And miss my own birthday party. So there are times where I've, in my career, especially on tour, or maybe I was over-served, I'd become the nicest person in the world. Yeah, you're fun-toned. I want to help. I want to solve everyone's problems and take care of them forever. And then the next day, I'm like, wait, I said what? Yeah. I said I'd buy you a home. Yeah. I don't even know you. You're like holding court and giving people advice. Yeah. I'm trying to help everyone. Yeah. Awful. I did that one time. I was up in
Starting point is 00:37:04 San Francisco and I was just subbing in for, you know, I did this play Blexie Blues. I was an understudy for this play Blexie Blues. And anyway, Nancy Simon, who was actually my first wife. But so she's the daughter, Neil Simon, but she, so she was directing Blexie Blues up in San Francisco. And I went up there because one of the actors couldn't do it this weekend. And so I only did. did like three, maybe four performances, right? But, you know, I knew it because of, it wasn't that long before that I had been the understudy. So I did the play. And then we're all having a party after. And one of the ladies who was on the crew and, you know, had a tough life. You know, had some hardship and stuff. And, and then I was, oh, I forgot to say I had some mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And so I became totally absorbed in all of this, what she's gone through. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, you know what? What you'd come down to L.A., you can stay at my house until you get on your feet. And, you know, we're going to make sure that you, I don't know what I thought she was going to do. Like, I can't remember what her, what she wanted to do with her life. But anyway, I just became completely absorbed. And then, you know, then I sobered up and I'm like, what did I do?
Starting point is 00:38:38 What did I do? I'm crazy. But you have a consistent habit of having an open heart and inviting people into your future life. Or yours. Or mine. And so what, that's the question. Then do you have someone in your life who's at the front door or goes like, yeah, that's not happening? Exactly. That's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I've had to be that guy quite a few times. No, no, not the people you've met. But this. No, he's doing this routinely. He's out there. We go on a Greek holiday. And my family, we rent the place. Too bad, Laura, you out there? You remember this?
Starting point is 00:39:26 We rent the place and we fly over, but they get there before us. and we show up and there's two people sitting on tailgate of a truck right in front of our our real place and from a distance we think it's you and Laura waiting for us to get there we get out now it's it's it's a habiana and and Pocahontas and they're like hey are we at the right place y'all were like yeah oh hey and we're like who are you no and we're so and so armiana poggontas we're newlyweds and I what's so what y'all do you know well we met Woody and Laura at the airport. Oh, my, getting our luggage.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And they, we, they're great, man. And anyway, how are y'all doing? And so we get our backs? And I don't know how many of our backs. We move in. He's in the master, already taking the master. Sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:15 We go over and we're like, who we got outside? And we was like, aren't they great? Man, Javier. Hey, what's her name, honey? Oh, yeah, they're great, man. They're great. I love how you marked your territory. of the master bed that I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:32 as soon as he's out of the room, I'm going to take it until I look in there. He knows I want to go in there and snitch the master bedroom as soon as he's outside of it. The reason I didn't is I look in the window and he has the top sheet. And he's got it kind of wadded up
Starting point is 00:40:47 in a long string, the whole top sheet. He's got top in this hand in front of him and the back behind him. And he's giving himself a wind. Oh, my God! You're flossing yourself. He got the master He kept the master
Starting point is 00:41:03 You flossed yourself You know Extreme times Call for extreme measures Yeah And you had rented the house Yes Have you no shame
Starting point is 00:41:17 I know At long last sir Have you no shame Yeah They pop me on and polka They're great man Okay They're gonna be with this for a week
Starting point is 00:41:26 Now there is agents Okay, this leads perfectly into something that I need to discuss. Has Woody, Matthew, ever approached you about co-owning a houseboat in Amsterdam? Has he ever mentioned that idea to you? No. It's a simple question. I don't think he wants to own any kind of yacht because he is the number one yacht jumping man that I've ever met in my life for free. This guy, are you kidding me, dude?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Coming out of your mouth, that's hysterical. What do you mean? This guy, respond kettle, come on. What are you talking about? Your yachts and your... I don't want to even get into all of these. Hey, I'll pop around on the yachts. Amen, amen.
Starting point is 00:42:10 But most times when I'm ready, it's over. We leave tomorrow. I go on the boat to get on, go to the wharf, to get on the plane to go to the next destination. And I look up and you're not, I'm what are you, why aren't you packed? Because I'm not leaving. Or, what are your pack?
Starting point is 00:42:28 Why aren't you getting on the boat? Because last night I swam over to that boat, introduced myself, and they're taking me for a week. It's amazing. It's not a wallet to be seen either. It's amazing. Boat jumper. No, people. You're a boat jumper.
Starting point is 00:42:46 He's the best shot jumper in the world. Boat jumper. And people are so happy to have him on board, which is obviously why. But you're great at it. In a nutshell, let me tell you what he did to me. done with the yachts. In a way, in a nutshell, this guy, you'll speak when you're spoken to. I'm talking to Matthew now.
Starting point is 00:43:04 This guy approaches me in this building and he says, hey, Conan, my wife and I are thinking about getting a houseboat in Amsterdam. Do you want to go in on it 50-50? I immediately, without asking my wife, said yes. Because if the house, if the houseboat's a piece of shit, I don't care what it costs. I'll sell things. being able to walk into a bar anywhere and say, yeah, I co-own a houseboat in Amsterdam with Woody Harrelson. That's the story I can have forever.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Think of all the great things that are going to happen from it. And I'm really excited. I go home, I tell lies, I think we're going to do it. And Woody's going to send me the information. Maybe two weeks later, I watch him doing an interview in here with Ted Danson and you guys are talking to Flea. And I'm just out there watching. I'm like, oh, it's a good interview. Ted really is good at this.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And I'm watching it. And Flea's talking. And then you say on the podcast, hey, flee, my wife and I are thinking to get in a houseboat. Do you want to go in 50-50? No mention of me. And then I confront you about it. And you're like, hey, man, it's all good. So what the hell?
Starting point is 00:44:12 I still want to do that. No, you don't. 50-50-4 ways. He's like selling that stock again and again and again. Yeah. So I thought maybe he had gotten to you. I just collect checks. How many checks do you have for houseboats?
Starting point is 00:44:29 And there's still no houseboat. It's sustaining me in the lean use. Oh, man, that was a great day in my life when I saw that I was being played in my own podcast building by the master. No, we're doing that, dude. Well, yeah. It's still happening. Very excited about it. Very excited about it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 You guys bring up something on the show. Your characters who are yourselves, you bring up this possibility, and there's been a lot written about this, that you might possibly be brothers. That's something you could easily find out. Yeah, we are. We are brothers. He's fully convinced.
Starting point is 00:45:11 He doesn't want to do the DNA. I'll swab right now. I'll pee in a cup now. I think you pee it on the way in. You're constantly. You're constantly leaving DNA wherever you go. All we need you to do is floss with a bed sheet. And then we have everything we need.
Starting point is 00:45:29 We got feces, urine, semen. We got all of it in one shot. So, blood. So you don't want to do it. Oh. Oh, no. That was wrong. No, no, no, it was very right.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Matthew, you don't want to do the, you don't want to find out. Look. Which I kind of respect. I think it's true. I think my mom's bullshit and just to get, you know, if anything's gone too smoothly, my mom loves to throw a wrench and things. Yep. And look, I'll probably do a DNA test, but here's a problem with the DNA test. It's, if it turns out to be true.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Oh, man, I got to unpack a whole 56 years of what? Yeah. I'm thinking my dad. And if it's not true, he's not going to be near as fun to hang out with it. Exactly. That's crazy. No, for a little while, I'll get over it. But look, it's going to be true.
Starting point is 00:46:21 But either way, just look at it not as like, you know, I got to repack everything having to do with my dad. Think of it like there was a nice man in my house for all those years. It was a very sweet person. And now I got a nude dad. And getting a couple brothers. Yeah, and then you got more brothers. He likes to sell out how it's a net positive. It's a net gain.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It's a net gain. Yeah. That's a nice way to look at it. Yeah. easy for him to say i kind of like the not knowing i think it there's a nice mystery to it but she said i i will tell you that mom max said she'd had a few kendall jacks a few just a right amount of tokes and she's just like i knew your father and i'm like that was quite quite an ellipsies the way she said k-n-e-w and the ellipsis afterwards even my five-year-old son read into the innuendo that that meant
Starting point is 00:47:16 she must have shacked. And then come to find out, you know, he had told me before Mamak even mentioned this. I just knew this as a part of the lore of his family. When Maumac went to give birth to him, she said, come on, Jim, it's time, you know, my water broke, whatever. And he says, oh, I'm not going. That's not my son because he done the math. Which was because they'd been trying for five years and nothing stuck. Yeah. No, because he did the math, the math wasn't math. And he was, he was, he was, that was during their second divorce. That's true. That he, that he actually.
Starting point is 00:47:56 This is incredible. That my, that Charlie met Kay, it was during a second divorce. Is there a hallmark card for, I don't think it's mine? They're mine. I'm just curious. We'll look into that later. There's a Michael Jackson something. That's true. My favorite pito. I don't think that's the title of the song. I think you had moved on to a different observation about Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So I just saw one of these shows. How many of you made so far? Eight. There's eight. Yeah. Okay. We showed, we had a premiere last night, showed two of them, and I was pleasant. You know, I was thinking industry audience, how's this going to turn out?
Starting point is 00:48:48 They really liked it. It was very loose, yeah. It was fun. I have a mental image I need to share with Matthew, which is, this is a long time ago, probably the late 1990s. I'm in New York. I'm doing the late night show. I'm walking through Central Park. And I hear, hey, man, and it's you jogging, shirtless. And we had a really nice talk on the Upper West Side. And best looking guy I've ever seen at, you know, this massive jog, covered in sweat. We had a really nice talk about life and everything. And then you went your separate way. We went our separate ways. And I was. slumping back to my apartment. And I was like, I'm in love with that man. I'm straight. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:49:30 But I am in love with that man. I probably gave me a sweaty hug, too. You did? Oh, you did. And I had, man, I had, I came home and my wife was suddenly attracted to me. I was covered in McConaughey sweat. Nice. Lise was like, what is this cologne?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Let's have babies. But it was like a great moment in my life. It's always stuck in my head. When people say, oh, you know, sexuality, it's a spectrum. I'm like, it certainly is. If you had said right then, come away with me. I'd have gone. I'd have gone with that man.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Hey, Conan, you want to get a little houseboat and a hampshire? Yes. I'd been dying. I've been dying for someone else to ask me that. Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Well, guys, I mean, it must be. really fun to make this show because you two are authentic human beings who really love each other
Starting point is 00:50:27 and you can the chemistry that you have just here in this studio is right there in the show it's just a lovely thing to behold and it's just uh it's it's it's it's it's life affirming to see these guys hang out it really is yeah that's great you hear you know it really is it's a nice thing to see because it's real. And so if you want to write in, second season, an uptight Bostonian coming in, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Can you do any, do you speak any farcey? Can you do an accent? I can do, I do accents. What I've learned about acting is that you just say yes to everything. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You know? So in other words, I don't speak anything, no. I mean, I know I speak Spanish, but I, but no.
Starting point is 00:51:14 You speak Spanish? I will do what's necessary. I will, do whatever's necessary. So I'm just putting my name out there. Can you learn Farsi? I will learn anything. Give him 12 minutes.
Starting point is 00:51:28 You kill it, Sona. Woody Matthew, thank you so much for being here. Congrats on the new show. And this was an absolute fucking delight. Thank you. No, our pleasure. Thanks, brother. I have something very important to talk about today.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Oh, okay. On a previous podcast, quite a while ago, I mentioned that a fan put up a plaque on the street that I used to live on in Los Angeles way back in the 1980s. I lived in an apartment on Cochran Avenue down sort of by the tar pits. That's a funny way to describe it. Yeah. Where do you live? I'm by the tar pits. I got the apartment from an actress named Cynthia Stevenson. The rent was $380. a month. Oh, dear. And this would have been, I think, 1986 to 1988. That was my sort of part of my origin story was my life on Cochrane Avenue when I was driving a 1973 Plymouth Valiant that I bought
Starting point is 00:52:38 from some surfers. Anyway, that's another story. It's your bachelor pad. Partial view of the pits. Yeah. That was my pickup line. Do you want to get in a poorly functioning 73 Valiant and drive to my apartment near the tar pits? Yep. But anyway, a fan, a gentleman by the name of Tim Hamill. I want to give him a shout out. Tim. I don't see how that elevated Tim's game at all.
Starting point is 00:53:09 That sounded like you were dying and needed him to shoot you. Tim. Stop the pain. Tim Hamill put up a plaque. When you say plaque, though, let's be clear. It's a picture of a plaque on foam core, I think. Yeah. Hey, hey, don't harsh my, don't yuck my yumb.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm just saying that's like I think it's he put up a I'm just going to call it a plaque. It was made of foam core, but you know, I think what he did was, um, ecologically sound. Yes. It's very funny, kind of tongue in cheek. I guess it was a nice thing to do. That was a couple of years ago. This piece just came out in a news outlet called L.A. Material and it's written by a journalist named Pablo Goldstein wrote a shocker of a piece.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Oh. There's a scandal about. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, not since, I don't know, like Dewey defeats Truman. This was a massive headline. I'll explain later, Sona.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I know it. Oh, okay. I'm sure. I know it. Yeah. I know some things sometimes. Okay. Anyway, the plaque is missing.
Starting point is 00:54:13 The plaque is gone. The plaque is gone. Nobody knows where or who took it? The plaque has been stolen out. Keep in mind, it was made a foam core, so it could have been the wind that took it. The plaque is gone. But we also shouldn't discount the fact that the wind might have done it on purpose. You know, the wind, no fan of mine.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yeah. We both blow a hot air. But anyway, this piece describes in harrowing detail how this fixture of the community is gone. And the article says, Conan O'Brien has been kidnapped and nobody knows who did it or why. What a, what an opener. What a cold open. A gorilla Conan O'Brien monument, which was affixed to a miracle mile stop sign with zip ties.
Starting point is 00:55:00 No, no. That's vanished. This writer is very funny. Can we take a second to mention that Pablo Goldstein's wonderful writer, fellow, his mother is an iconic actress. Oh. Jeanette Goldstein. She played Vasquez and Aliens. She played the Irish mother in Titanic that's putting her two little kids to sleep in the groom.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yes. She's John Connor's mother. in Terminator 2. Wow. She's amazing. That's so cool. Yeah. I did have a problem with that scene where she's tucking her kids into a bed.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Why not say, oh, and by the way, in five minutes, ice cold water will shoot in here like a fire hose and drown you. I didn't realize what she was accomplishing there. But anyway, that's not, Pablo, your mom, terrific, terrific actress. Truly. And Pablo, I want to thank you for this article because it is really funny. And also, I'm glad that you blew the whistle on this crisis because a Conan O'Brien plaque, and there aren't a lot of them, not nearly as many as I think there should be, has gone missing. A crisis. It is a crisis.
Starting point is 00:56:03 How is this a crisis? Because when you allow something like this to happen, it's a gateway to much worse crimes. Okay? How could anything be worse than this? Yeah. If you let this crime occur and everyone just shrugs their shoulders and says, oh, well, what's the big deal? Soon other foam core plaques are stolen. Do you know what I mean? And the next thing you know, and that could lead to eventually plaques that are maybe made of a more sturdy and valuable material go missing.
Starting point is 00:56:35 So you have to nip this in the bud now. Do you understand that? It's a slippery slope. I get what you're saying. Slippery slope is exactly what it is. Well, I mean, do they have ideas about who took it? Do we have any ideas? What does the article say? Isn't it illegal to put up a sign? Who the fucking invited you into this conversation? Eduardo. You're selling a narc, bro. No.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yeah. Man, you got the wrong idea here. You know, Eduardo told the authorities and they took a... I'm calling a narc. I have to say... This has been... This has been Eduardo's bug bear for a long time. Eduardo's always like, I'm not sure that signs legal.
Starting point is 00:57:12 You're the guy that walks around neighborhoods, and when someone puts up free guitar lessons, pull a tab. You rip them down. Yeah. That's not an approved sign. Lost dog posters. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That kitten should find its own way home. There is a WhatsApp group, I believe, that the article talks about how people are talking about it. They're concerned. We got to see, what I want to do is shine a light on this. These people are doing the Lord's work. Maybe a dark lord. I didn't say which Lord. But no, let's get the word out.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Who are these people? Well, they're just residents of this area, I think, on either WhatsApp or the next door app. They're talking about how this, this, like, tragedy is befallen their neighborhood and that what are they going to do about it? Also, is the guilty among them? I think they might even be turning on each other who knows. There's definitely an investigative podcast to be done about this. I think there is an investigative podcast to be done about this, and I think we're the ones to do it. I think so, too. Can you queue up a little bit of, like, appropriate music?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yes, why don't we start with some music and then I'll read the quote that I myself was quoted as saying. Oh, you're a quote. You got interviewed for this. quote on the article. Okay. Yeah. So you talk to Pablo? He emailed me and I just, he asked for comment.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Can you just make it more exciting? Okay. That, yeah. I ran into him at Trader Joe. No. And you met him in a basement near the Watergate Hotel. Okay. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That was your way of making it more exciting, Trader Joe's? Yeah. Can't you bump it up a little bit? Make it an Arawan for Christ's sake. Here's what happened. I moved the potted plant on my Washington, D.C. There you go. Now I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I slipped on. a Macintosh trench coat and a short brimmed fedora. I walked to a cab, took a cab to another cab, got into a cab to another cab. It's too many cabs. Visited my lady friend. Then I went to a vacant car garage and met with Pablo Goldstein, code name Shallow Throat. And he asked me for a quote and I said simply, Conan himself has wisely stated many times on the podcast that all statues,
Starting point is 00:59:21 and monuments should be made of soap, meaning they should never be permanent, and no man or woman should be vaunted to such heights as to have their visage cast in bronze for all eternity. That being said, I think Conan would still like his to be done. Yes, that's true. First of all, people talk about how, what are they going to do and how can we solve this crime?
Starting point is 00:59:44 One thing they could do is Tim Hamill could just press print a second time. No, it's a victimless crime. I mean, for crazy sake, Tim. For the cost of some toner coverage. I will pay for the foam core. And I'll get you, I don't know how, I'll get you two new zip ties. And you can press print. So that's one thing we could do.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Second, I will, I will agree right now on the air to have this made in. bronze. Oh. Yes. But you, but you know what? Gorley's right. You did say that you think that monuments That's, please. Okay. They should be made in soap, you said, that they should just eventually just. You want to make it in soap. You want to make it in broad. You want to do the opposite of what you have said a couple times. Why don't you just make a statue of you on a horse? Equestrian statue? Yes. Yes. I would love that. Okay. Um, listen, I know I've said that before and I passionately believe that. But I'm doing this for the people. of Cochran. I am doing this for, I mean, this is a community that passionately wanted to recognize me, at least one of them did. And he wanted it badly enough to print something on foam core and put it up with zip ties. And now I want to help this community heal. And the way to do that,
Starting point is 01:01:09 I will get this made in bronze. I don't know what I'm saying right now. How expensive is that? I think that's plenty expensive. But also, is it? You have to have a permit to put something that Permanent up. You're going to have to deal with the city. Oh, you're worried about, have you seen Chinatown? Yeah. I know what I'm doing. Okay? Some people are going to show up dead. You're cut to a missing and nostril. You've got to fill out a lot of paperwork. Let's just do it. No, no. What are they going to do? I'm all for it. I said bronze without looking into the cost. I want to make sure that this is reasonable. What is it? I don't think it's going to be that much for me to agree to have this made. Is there another material that's like kind of bronze-esque that you can use instead? How about we do? just put bronzer on it. I love that idea.
Starting point is 01:01:55 We'll use foam core that I put bronzer on. Medium sculptures, two to four feet, $2,000 to $10,000. Wait a minute. No, no, no, no, no, no, two to four feet. This is just a plan. 12 to 18 inches, $500 to $4,000. Oh, Jesus, that's a lot of money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Okay, maybe not bronze, but I will find a material that's better than foam core. How's that? I want to go, and I will pay for it. Now, I understand that there are those who might think Conan paying to have his own plaque made. That's so sad. I don't see it that way. I think the response. I see it as brave.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Conan paying to have his own sculpture in bronze, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. This is exactly who that guy is. How is this brave? I think I am, there are probably other people out there that would love a brass plaque with their face on it. And I'm letting them know that. It's okay. Oh, you're breaking the glass ceiling?
Starting point is 01:02:51 The bronze ceiling. Okay. Previously, the foam core ceiling. Anyway, quick thanks to Tim Hamill, who had this idea in the first place. It's very sweet and funny. Pablo Goldstein for writing a really funny article. And yeah, let's try and solve the mystery. But if we can't, we've got to get that plaque back up.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And I'm going to be driving by Cochran. I do cruise by every now and then. and look at my old doorway and reminisce about old times. So I'll be prowling the neighborhood. And that's not a promise. That's a threat. The WhatsApp group just lit up. Conan O'Brien needs a friend with Conan O'Brien,
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