Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Michael Che

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

Comedian Michael Che feels honored to be Conan O’Brien’s friend. Michael sits down with Conan to talk about his first stand-up experience, jumping into the deep end at Saturday Night Live, and wh...y jokes about politics and race will always hold up. Plus, Conan tries his hand at reading some erotic fiction. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (323) 451-2821.For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, my name is Michael Obama-Chay and I feel honored, honored, about being Conan O'Brien's friend. Hey there and welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. We are well into our third season already and having a lot of fun, really enjoying the guests so far, very excited about today. As always, I'm joined by Sona Moisesian. How are you, Sona? I'm doing very well. Very good. And Mr. Matt Gorley, the producer, you do a fantastic job and I salute you. Hey, thanks. I salute you back, both of you. This is a pretty chipper way to start things. Sure is. Hey, I have a question, which is a lot of people are wondering, you know, how do people staying safe right now? And how do you even make a podcast in a safe way? I would like to emphasize that Sona and I are in the same room, but we have some distance between us. Maybe you could back up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I know I could. I'm way too close right now. But all the guests are coming to us via Zoom. And Matt, I haven't seen you in person in a long time. You are well ensconced in your lovely home. And you communicate virtually with us. Yeah. So everyone's we're all doing this as safely as we can. But it still begs the question, are people being safe outside of this zone? Right. I wore a mask a lot before COVID. Just yeah, for night prowling and just spooking around. Let's go back there. Night prowling. What I like to used to like to do. And I still like to do it. Now there's more of an excuse, but I used to like to cover up my face and just sort of prowl around at night. And if someone's not home, go in the home. And I used to try on their clothes and stuff. And it was just a way to be someone else for a little bit and sort of be uninhibited and sort of see how other people lived. I thought was a
Starting point is 00:02:11 really cool way to, you know, and occasionally they'd come home and have to scurry out the back and or murder them. No, I never did that. I want to be very clear. I never murdered anybody. I'm just a night prowler. I'm a night prowler who likes to just sort of spook around and look at things. And I've been in a lot of your homes, if you're listening right now. And I've worn your intimate apparel. Let's just say that. And then I put it back. So if you had any questions. I wonder why my underwear smelled like sunscreen. Yeah. So anyway, I should probably, I don't know why I put it on down there. It just doesn't make any sense. Oh, come on. I really lather it up. But listen, my point is I am safe. That's what we're going to take away from that long digression in which I admitted to being, well, a peeping Tom, a night prowler, a creep, if you will. But Sona, I
Starting point is 00:02:59 worry about you a little bit, because I know that you come from a very large sort of collective family. Yes. And people probably feel this incredible pressure to gather. I'm lucky no one wants to hang with me. So I'm fortunate. But you getting your parents and your relatives understand when you say, Hey, hey, don't come over. No, no one understands. No, but I, you know, my mom and dad have to take it seriously because Dede lives with them. And he's 97. That's my grandpa. Dede, is that a, is that Greek or Armenian? I don't know. You're part Greek and you're part Armenian. Yeah, I'm a quarter Greek. I'm mostly Armenian. My grandma, one of my grandmas was Greek. And fun fact about her is her nickname was tumble, which means chubby. And when she died, they put that on her gravestone. Oh, my God. Yeah, they so if you go, it's tumble mofsesian, which is like chubby mofsesian. She was basically named
Starting point is 00:03:54 after her. Her fat shamed nickname was put on her tombstone. Yes. And maybe she was a little chubby as a kid. Yeah. The point is maybe she was, I'm guessing she grew up like in the 1920s. Yeah, I mean, so she grew up in like the 1920s or whatever. And maybe she was a little chunky. Yeah. And they called her, you know, chubby. And then she probably turned into a beautiful woman. And then they were like, nope, we're putting it on your gravestone. You were a chunky kid. I don't know who made that call. But that was her nickname was tumble, which in Turkish means the chunky, like chubby little thing. And then when my grandpa died, they were going to change it. But I, her name was, was Sona. And they just didn't want to put the name Sona mofsesian on a gravestone. That's so funny, because I picture Sona on a gravestone all the time. Oh, oh my God, what did I reveal? Oh, no. I made a you dying joke earlier, and then I felt
Starting point is 00:04:47 bad. This gravestone was for your unhappiness, the death of someone's unhappiness. That's what I meant it to be. And I think that's how everyone took it. Oh, is that? Yeah. When you, when you are free of all unhappiness, we're going to make a gravestone to your unhappiness and put Sona on it. And then in very small letters, unhappiness. Well, that's, I'm not, I'm not an unhappy person. I know, but you're still not completely free. I want you to be, I want you to be completely blissfully happy all the time. You're trying to save it. I just saved it. No, you didn't. I really did. I really did. Oh, wait, a lot of stuff coming in on the internet right now. This is live streaming Conan nailed it. This is great. I don't see you checking anything. Oh, here's the story. This is fantastic. It's in that iPads not on variety. Assistant Mistakes Conan's wonderful worm remark for a cruel quip. Oh, this is a review and variety. It's being, it's coming out
Starting point is 00:05:39 right now. The red top quipster had a rare moment of genuine kindness towards his assistant, Sonoma Sessian, in which he said he wished her to be free of all misery. And he wished that he could build a gravestone to any sad moment she would ever have in the future. She snapped at him. Oh, that's so mean. You want me to die. He tried to clean it up. And then she apologizes. There she goes. Yeah. So this is a pretty I apologize. That's haven't happened yet. This is one of those reviews that no, you ever wrote that that information's wrong. Anyway, I'm going to tell you a story, which is that when I was a kid, one of my uncles had these really big, larger than life uncles, very tall, massive heads, just huge heads. Everyone in, you know, Irish people have big heads. My brothers and sisters and I all have massive heads, like caricature heads, like massive head and then like a body that even though our bodies are big, they can't compete with our
Starting point is 00:06:36 heads. But this uncle would come over and he was this larger than life guy and a big deal and a big powerful lawyer in Worcester, Mass. And I don't know if it was because he didn't remember my name or whatever, but he'd call me ham fat. And he'd go like, Hey, that's right. You told us. Was this on the podcast? I think so. But I don't mind it because I just love any story where you get called ham. Yeah. And I just had this orange hair that was cut in a bowl. My two front teeth were dead because I fell in the driveway. I had freckles I hated. I was always wearing some hideous 1970s shirt that had been put on me that my brother's owned before me. I was just miserable. And then this guy would come in and go like, Hey, look, it's ham fat. You're also called pigeon pie. What's with you and foods? I don't know. My mom still calls me pigeon pie. If I call her, she'll go like, Oh, hello, pigeon pie. When I was a kid, I didn't question it. But now I think a pigeon's a dirty, dirty
Starting point is 00:07:27 bird that shifts on statues all day. They're filthy. And they're covered with dirt and ash. So the sky rats, they're sky rats. So the idea that you would grab some of those when they weren't looking, break their necks and shove them into a pie. And then that's what I would be called. It's pretty hilarious. Ham fat is bad. Ham fat was bad. That's bad. But yeah, I think that's, I think, I just hope that you and your family, you know, you got to talk to them and say, Look, you got to take this seriously, you got to be safe. Oh, I know, I know, I know, I know, it sucks. It's, there's a lot of skepticism in a certain communities. And it has infiltrated my life a little bit. But no one's going to be in a viral video yelling at someone. Right, right. They're not like that. They're not, they're not going to do that. No, no. And I will say your people are, they really are lovely people. They're very nice. They really are very nice. They just, you know, don't believe in science. Okay, so let's just move it on.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Unnecessary to say that. Super spreader science denier. You can't do things. You can't, you were in the same room. I just said lovely things about your, about your parents. So, so what I snuck into horrible things to say about somebody very quickly, like a ninja big deal, like a ninja. Yeah, I'm like a ninja. I'm very variety covering this one. Yeah. Oh, here it is right here. No, glad you, this is actually Hollywood reporter. Thank you. Yeah, we're getting these streamed live. Connor, Brian, known as one of the warmest and kindest of hosts, went way out of his way to praise Sonoma, assistant Sonoma Sessian's parents as being quote, lovely. But O'Brien soldiered on and continue to say how lucky he was to work with such lovely people before quickly muttering super spreader science denier. Yeah. Terms which Conan put out there for the health and safety of all those listening in the podcast community. Oh, come on. This is a great article. It says it gives me seven
Starting point is 00:09:25 stars out of five. What? Yes, which is impossible. Does it say we need to wrap this up and get to the episode? It says O'Brien then started to go on a little bit too long, despite the fact that he had a wonderful guest on that day. O'Brien was then reminded by his annoying producer, Matt Gorely, formerly resident of a living under a bridge in the downtown LA area, until he was saved by the kindly O'Brien, who gave him a microphone and a headset and said, I should nap by a night prowler. I was out night prowling. I was out night prowling with my mask. Anyway, my, when I met Matt under a bridge and made him. Why were you under the bridge? That's where you lived to tell them, right? No, but why were you... Good improv is yes and. Weren't you a creep living under a bridge, Matt? Yes and. I was going to say yes and,
Starting point is 00:10:11 but then you added the creep part. Yes and. So you were some creep living under a bridge? Yes and I quit. I'm glad you quit that horrible lifestyle and clean yourself up to come join me. Listen, we can't waste time and we... We can't waste time. It's all we've been doing. We can't waste time. And you know what? I blame both of you. I... What? You're the red top time waster. I am a focused podcaster. I'm a broadcaster. You know what? A lot of podcasters are just podcasters, but you know what I am? I began as a broadcaster and then branched into podcasting. So no one's got their eye on the old time clock more than this guy. I am a laser beam focus that will bring us to the promised land and that promised land starts now. I am very excited about
Starting point is 00:10:58 our guest today. He's a hilarious comedian who became co-head writer of Saturday Night Live in 2017. He's also one of the hosts of Weekend Update and I am thrilled he is with us today. I do admire this gentleman. Michael Che. Welcome. Most times I'm talking to someone on the podcast. It's someone I already know. There've been... I think there's been three instances you included where I don't really believe we've met. We may have met at some point. We did meet. Do you think we've met? We did meet. We've definitely met. And you would never, ever, ever even track or remember where. So I could do whatever I want with this story. But we definitely met. A long time ago. Before I was... Didn't I cut your face?
Starting point is 00:11:56 I remember really well. There was a day where I was in a weird mood and I was slashing people and I think I slashed you. You was auditioning for the Bloods, I think it was. Yeah, exactly. And it's an initiation. I saw this guy and the Bloods really didn't want me. I'm going to be honest with you. The Bloods, they said it's not a good fit and I said, I'll show you, fellas. I'm a real good slasher. I pulled a lot of strings to get you that audition. I really did. No, I know. And then that's how I repaid you. You helped get me into the Bloods and I, in all of New York City, I had so many people to slash and I went after the guy that made the introduction and I feel so bad. I apologize. Again, I apologize. What really happened? What
Starting point is 00:12:41 really happened before I did comedy, I used to make t-shirts and sell them on the street and you bought one. And I remember... No, really? Yeah, right on Prince Street and Wooster. I don't remember what it was, but I used to draw these pictures and put them on t-shirts and you were walking down and I never forget because... I don't know if you know this about yourself, but you're pretty unmistakable. Yes, I'm told. I've always said it's like me and Big Bird from Sesame Street. When we walk around in sunglasses, everyone does... We're not fooling anybody. Yeah, you're like White Shack. It's definitely you, whenever it's you. But you bought a shirt from me and I was thrilled. Oh, that's nice. It was one of my favorite moments being out there like that.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, you were very nice and kind and you just said you liked the shirt, you gave me money and then you left. No tip. That's cool. No, well, I don't tip for shirts, man. When was the last time you ever do that? You go to a store and you buy, you know, you say like, oh, I like this shirt. I'm going to buy it and here's a little something extra for you. I don't do that in a store. So, I don't know. I didn't know that that was the custom, but... It wasn't a store. It was a kid on the streets, man, with a table. I looked real sad. I made sure to look as sad as possible. I had cold in my eyes. Do you know the advice? No, I think... No, I bought the shirt. I bought the shirt and then now clearly I committed some faux pas by not adding an extra, you know, an extra tip.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So, I feel... No tip, no life advice. He didn't offer me a job or internship or nothing. Oh, God, no. No, I can't do that. I can't do that. I thought it was, you know, I thought we had a good business exchange and now suddenly I'm getting all this shit for not saying, come with me, young man. Yeah, I was waiting to save my life. We're gonna fight crime together. Having a great origin story. Yeah, I know. Let's change the story, too. I said, follow me. I'll show you all about comedy and then we went and lived on a mountaintop. No, I have so many questions. First of all, I am very, very excited to, quote, meet you, even though we've technically met, but you've got, you've had such an impressive career at such a young age. I mean, and you're, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:06 you've done a lot. You've done a lot. See, anybody else saying that, it would make sense, but like you're honing O'Brien. Like you've done everything that I've done, but like a lot better. I don't think that's true. Well, you went to Harvard. You're terrific. Yeah, please trust, let's not lump me in with those people. Those people ran the Vietnam war. They were the ones that said, we've got a really good idea. Let's get into Indochina and get involved and start bombing the shit out of stuff. So, you know, I don't put, I don't consider that a feather in my cap. Let's just put it that way. It's pretty, it's pretty awesome and historic though. As an SNL writer coming in, the names you hear about Conan O'Brien, like, you know, that, you know, that's like a, that's
Starting point is 00:15:49 the footsteps you follow. The legacy of Adam McKay, Conan O'Brien, Jack Handy, all these people. Yeah. So people used to talk about Conan, no tip O'Brien. Word got around pretty quickly. He's nice to people and he'll buy your product, but he's not going to give you a little something on top. No tip O'Brien sounds like a completely different thing. That seems like a nickname you get at the showers. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. It was a war wound. It was a war wound. I jumped on a grenade. I threw my crotch on a grenade to save the battalion. You know, I am very impressed because I really, I think you're terrific on Star and Out Live and you were a head writer on the show, which is incredibly impressive.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I was not a head writer when I was there. So you win that one. No one made me head writer. Barely. I'm barely a head writer. There's three head writers. I'm, I'm one of them. And I do the least amount of work, certainly. It's the most credit. That's how you, that's how you get by in this business. It's the most credit. But I find, and, and I am very impressed with your standup. I just think you're absolutely fantastic standup. And you're such a good joke writer. And that's like one of the first things I wanted to talk to you about is I really love the way you write and the jokes that you come up with. And I'm curious, when did you know you had a brain for that, that you could do that? I'll tell you, my experience was I was very intimidated.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I used to think I can make my friends laugh and I can sort of think of funny things on the fly and make people laugh. But I'm not a writer. I used to think that I don't write. I'm not really a writer. And it took me a while to realize that's what writing is, is coming up with the idea. Then you just have to put it down. Did you have that block? That was a block for me. I think it was the opposite for me. It was more like, I think I can say funny things, but I've never performed before. So when I started comedy, I went to an open mic just because I wanted to try comedy. And I was like so intimidated about being on stage. I've never heard my voice in a microphone before that. I never really performed. And so going to the open
Starting point is 00:18:07 mic and seeing people try it and be bad at it was like, all right, well, if they got courage to be bad at it, I could at least be bad at it too, just to see what it feels like. And I don't remember what I said for maybe the first six months of doing stand up. But I remember the first time I got up there and being on stage and hearing my voice in a microphone and seeing a crowd like, well, crowd open mic. So 11 people looking at their phones. But you know, it was but seeing like the people and kind of having that stage, it felt natural. So that kind of came first. And then jokes really was like, I always believed something that I was saying was funny. I just thought it was all about how do I make you see it the way I see it, you know, almost like being
Starting point is 00:18:55 in a different country. And you don't know the language and you're trying to look for directions. That's how I look at joke writing. Right. I know what I'm trying to tell you and you have no idea what I'm saying. So I'm just trying to say things that we can agree on so that you kind of get the gist of what I'm trying to say. You have it in your mind and in your mind, it's really funny. And then the trick is how do you get them to see it exactly the way you do. And when they do, that's when you get the electrical current. That's when like, they're inside your head and they're experiencing it exactly the way you are. And they're laughing. And to me, that's the face of God. Like that. That is when I know there's a power in the universe because I mean, it's the only thing
Starting point is 00:19:38 that really, I mean, there's a lot of nice things. As you know, there's a lot of nice things that come along with being in this business. But I would still do it. I would do it for free if I could still get that fix, you know, for free for sure. I mean, I started out paying to get on stage. Yeah, it was like, literally, you'd have to pay like $7 or something like that to do three minutes and maybe get a laugh because maybe the worst audience you will possibly ever see. But yeah, that feeling when you do get a laugh, it'll take you through anything. It's so much fun. And it has a comedy fan. When you watch kind of your inner audience and you see in a comedian kill, it's the greatest feeling until you've been on stage and you're making all those people laugh. And
Starting point is 00:20:22 everyone laughing, it's just, it's a weird thing to explain, but it's a lot of fun. Yeah. And then what happens is once you are up there doing it and you're killing, the next time you go and you sit in an audience and you watch someone else kill, you're thinking, no, those can be my laughs. Damn it. Why aren't I up there? Oh, I saw that one coming. Didn't you see that one coming? I did. And then people are saying, sir, sir, please sit down. You're ruining the show. And Conan, why are you being such an asshole? Well, I'm just saying, he's not that funny. I don't know why. And then they hustle you out and you're not allowed to go back. I don't know if you've had that experience. This is, maybe I've said too much.
Starting point is 00:21:02 A little waitress is like, that guy didn't even tip. Exactly. No, it's, well, we have some similarities. We both come, I mean, I always look for what's the commonality. And I think you're, are you one of seven? I'm one of six kids. Are you one of seven? Yeah, I'm one of seven. My parents didn't have cable either. I'm the last. I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle. So I was the anonymous guy in the middle that was like, you will know my name one day. Because I really got the, I really did have the impression they didn't quite know who I was sometimes, because we all looked exactly the same. Were you all like super tall? Not all of us, but I think most of us are pretty tall. Most of us are pretty tall. I, I'm like one of the tallest myself and my brother Justin are,
Starting point is 00:21:58 are like six, four. I mean, I wasn't tall. Most of my childhood, I don't associate with being tall, because I got tall really late. I had a growth spurt really late and suddenly became six, four, and put on no weight, was still the same weight. So I was, when I was about 17, suddenly I became, or 17 and a half, I became six, four, and I was 155 pounds. And I can have, I can have an engineer draw that for you. It's horrible. It doesn't work on paper. Like I kept falling over and collapsing. Not good with wind. No, no, wind was a real problem. I'd often wake up in like a haystack, hundreds of miles from home, not knowing what happened. But yeah, we had, and I, you know, I think we both grew up in the projects. Now, correct me if, correct me if I'm wrong, Michael.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Projects means- I so want to believe that. No, just correct me if I'm wrong. Projects means well to do suburb, right? Is that, is it? That's what I've always thought. That's why I always tell people, I'm from the projects too. And then we start, they seem confused because that was my definition of projects growing up. These projects don't work out so well. I don't know who's great in this project. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You grew up in, in New York? I grew up in Manhattan. I grew up in Lower East Side and then my, then we moved to Jersey City. So we thought Jersey City was a suburb, though, when we, when we got there. I didn't, because it was such a culture shock of New York City, New York City period, whether it's a product or not, everything's on top of each other,
Starting point is 00:23:41 you know, it's just- Yeah, yeah. No matter where you live, you probably live around 300 people, you know, like just in a very immediate radius. And, you know, Jersey, we did a two-family house and it was like some old white people like living around it. It was like, this is, we must be rich. Now there's stairs, but it was like, not, you know, it was probably worse, but you don't really know that because it's, you know, you get a decent block in a different town and it feels like the suburbs if you're from, if all you know is the city, you know. Right, right. But you don't know, you don't have much until you start meeting kids with a lot. Yes. And so I went to high school at a performing arts high school, LaGuardia Music and Art. And then, you know, it was, it was a,
Starting point is 00:24:26 the best performing arts high school maybe in the country, but, you know, it's free for the city kids. And so you'd meet kids of all walks of life. You'd meet kids that was way forward in you, and you'd meet kids that were way richer than you, you know, like super rich. And, you know, people from the upper-west side, people from Queens, people from all over the place. So you kind of meet the whole city because it's a public school essentially, but it's just everybody's kind of has some talent. And that's when I started to kind of get to realize, oh, wait a minute, we grew up kind of messed up. But also, but it's also kind of fun. You're like, wow, I made it to where you made it to and I didn't have what you have. So you feel this sort of a, it's okay. You know,
Starting point is 00:25:12 like it's sad you wish you grew up differently, but also you're like, but I made it. I still made it to where you got to and I didn't have everything. So, you know, it wasn't all bad, I guess. Well, I guess one question I would have is, now you've had this really incredible success. And how does your upbringing or the way you grew up influence how you deal with that? Well, particularly with comedy, that's true, because nobody thinks you're funny, you know, that you grew up with. They're like, you ain't that funny, you know, whatever, like, I'm funny to you. So it's never, you never really feel that accomplished around those friends because they always remember when you weren't funny, you know, but um, no, because it's, it's, it's subjective
Starting point is 00:25:53 and it's like, no one grew up with Michael Jordan and said, well, he was a shitty athlete. That's just like, you know, or you referenced Shaq earlier, no one was like, Shaq basketball, I grew up with him. And you're like, no, what the fuck? Yeah, he sure he was eight feet tall as a child. And he was, you know, but, but it's so clear and it's so objective, but comedy, people can always, anybody can say, I don't know, I've got a mechanic that's funnier than you, the person who just installed my gas lines funnier than you. And could be true, could be true. Yes, it's possible. I mean, that's the craziest thing that I think of. Like the only reason that I got the opportunities that I got is because I really
Starting point is 00:26:43 had nothing to lose. I was very unemployed, you know, I was getting like odd jobs here and there making very little money. So I could go to do spoken mics every day at six o'clock because I wasn't at work, you know, so there's, I think about that all the time. Like if I would have gotten the job to make 40 grand, 30 grand, like getting a solid job that I probably would have been under qualified for at that time, I would never try comedy because I would have been too afraid to risk that. So I wouldn't have followed that dream to do this, because I was protecting something that I really don't want to do, you know, so it's a very kind of strange thing. There's a lot of people who don't take the chance on something that they want to really do,
Starting point is 00:27:30 just because they're afraid of jeopardizing the thing that's making them miserable, you know, in a lot of ways. Unless, you know, some people love doing what they do, but I wouldn't have loved that. You know, I used to hate being a waiter or being a barback or working in a cubicle. It would drive me nuts. And I just wanted to find something that I could do that wasn't that because it just, it felt wrong. It felt like a, I felt like a cat in shoes, you know, but if I had it, I wouldn't have let it go because that's, that's one of the downsides of growing up the way I grew up. It was like, you have to do something now because I don't, we don't want you to be a bum because it's so easy to just be a bum, you know, being a bum,
Starting point is 00:28:11 meaning just no ambition or, you know, something, you know, like that was like the biggest fear. And doing comedy, it was very scary for a lot of people. It was like, I think he's about to be a bum. He's about to be one of those people that just trying to live his dream. But that's, and that's not a knock on, you know, the people I grew up with, it was just more so a fear, a common fear because we didn't know so many people that made it out. So it was hard to see it work if you've never seen it work. And I think now maybe people coming up, you know, from my family or from, you know, my neighborhoods will believe in people who try a little bit more because there's an example that it works sometimes, you know? Yes. And that's how the projects is exactly like the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. I mean, basically, I knew that that's what we were going to end up. That's really, there's no difference. There's no difference as far as I can see. And I know there's some people out there listening who thinks that I'm in some kind of a bubble or I've lost touch. But my butler assures me that I am on point and I know what's happening out there. So let's not have any of those comments because that's a huge wasted time for everybody. Hey, what's so about Sound Out Live because that's something we have in common. And I remember it showing up and them saying, okay, oh, go in that room. Steve Martin's the host this week. He's he's in there and go pitch him an idea. And I literally thought, wait a minute, you don't even know who I am. And you're having
Starting point is 00:29:41 me go pitch to Steve Martin. What if I've got a gun? You know, what if I wouldn't just meet some 24 year old and go like, get in there and talk to one of the biggest stars in the world. What if I say crazy shit? What if I, you know, I don't know, like, I couldn't believe that that was you you go from zero to 150. That was my experience. And it's terrifying. But but cool. What was you what did you have that a similar feeling almost almost verbatim, like literally my first because I came in as a guest writer in the middle of the season. They were doing this thing where they were bringing in, they were just looking for new voices. And they were bringing in two writers a week. And I happened to be one of them because I saw Joe's and Joe stacks me, Colin Joe's who
Starting point is 00:30:30 was head writer at the time was like, Hey, we're doing this thing, we're bringing in guest writers getting in, you know, just fresh faces if you'd like to do it. So I came in. And my first day, I don't know what a guest writer, I don't know what that means. I don't know if I'm being like an inter I'm thinking it's like a kind of a glorified intern position for a couple of weeks. Like, I'm going to shadow Joe's then maybe pitch some pitch on some stuff. But it's like Monday and they're like, All right, you know, everybody comes in and meets you and I'm thinking I'm going to get bagel soon or, you know, get coffee or something like that. Like, I don't know. I literally they're like, we go in the Lawrence office. And I'm like, Lauren, which Lauren, like,
Starting point is 00:31:09 who did this to Lawrence? Like, no, no. And Kevin Hart was the was the host. He was the was his first time hosting. And he was the biggest comedian in the world that that sure hottest guy in the world. And maybe still is. And we walk in and they're like, Well, you got to pitch two ideas. You got to pitch an idea to Kevin Hart. And I, you know, in front of your new boss, maybe possibly and the entire Saturday Night Live cast and writing team. And I've never written a sketch before. I think I pitched them. It was like, Oh, it was a, you're the richest black man in New York, Dwayne Reed. And it was like something we could never do because it was like, no one knows what Dwayne Reed is outside of New York. But it was a funny
Starting point is 00:31:57 idea. Yeah. Cause I was like, there's no white Dwayne's. And those two weeks after those two weeks, I did a, I did those two episodes with him. And then, uh, Justin Timberlake was the next week. And then I got the job after that because I got a sketch on, but it was so intimidating because I never did sketch before. Like, I didn't. Yeah. So you get a sketch and then you find out it goes through Reed through, and it does well. And you find out that maybe on, yeah, describe that for me. First of all, it was kind of the, it was, it was the most classic kind of SNL getting a sketch on occurrence in that we had worked all night, maybe maybe like six, seven hours on a sketch idea that got absolutely no laughs. And then the one that I kind of wrote
Starting point is 00:32:45 really quickly because we needed to, and I wrote in like maybe an hour, got all the laughs. And it was just like one of those things that if the comedy comes fast, it's probably going to work. If it takes a very long time, it's probably not going to work. But it was Justin Timberlake's fifth time hosting. So it was the five timers club, as you would know about. And it's literally Tom Hanks is there, Dan Ackroyd's there. Like it was like so many people there. And, and the Lonely Island guys came back because they were off and they came back to the show to do something with Justin. C Martin was there because they did Wild and Crazy Guys with the, it was like, it was the nuttiest week. It was almost like a finale show or a Christmas show kind of,
Starting point is 00:33:29 kind of feel. And I got a sketch on the first sketch that that they did at the table, bomb so hard. And then the sketch that I wrote was like a commercial parody killed. And it was almost like a prank. It felt like they were making fun of me because they were laughing at it. And I knew that this was a very dumb idea. And also that you just thought I wasn't funny. But it like that's, it was like kind of a scary kind of feeling that it, oh my God, this is going to, this might get on TV. I might get a sketch on Saturday Night Live. And then it was a pre-tape. So I had to like, you know, as a writer on the show, when you're doing a pre-tape, you're very hands-on. It's not like, you know, you're the producer. You're the writer just
Starting point is 00:34:12 literally producing the sketch. You're talking to the director. You're making choices. You have to be there. So it was just this bizarre thing of, like you said, you don't feel worthy. You don't feel like you should be there. You'd be like, this would be someone else right now. But it was so much fun because it's such a machine that they will protect you. If it's a good idea, if it's an idea that we all believe in, they'll protect you and figure out how to get it produced and how to make it work on the show. But, you know, they also make sure that it keeps the integrity that you intended it to have. So it was like, it was kind of a, you know, again, like high school, you're like, oh, I can do this. Like, I can, I can, I can try. Like, you know, it might not be the best,
Starting point is 00:34:55 but I can, I can absolutely take a shot and you feel confident in being able to take a shot. Well, to me, the magic moment is you, exactly what you said, which is it doesn't have to be agony. And in fact, I've heard songwriters like some of the most famous songwriter performers in the world have said, I think Elton John once said, all the great songs, I wrote them in like 15 minutes, you know, just came to me and I've had the exact same feeling when I have labored over something and there's like nine of us and we're grinding and grinding and grinding and pushing and pushing and pushing and then you read through and all you can hear, there's no laughing. So you hear the pages turning and you can also see, you can see Lorne Michaels looking ahead to see how
Starting point is 00:35:41 much longer is this fucking thing. And then he's looking ahead and he's taking his long sips of water and looking ahead and you're realizing, yeah, no, this is a 15 page salute that we wrote. When you can hear the gulp, so you hear every gulp that he takes, you're like gulp, gulp, gulp, and then, you know, cut to interior. Again, the Martians have still not found the magic seed and muscle shift and you look ahead and you're like, there's 10 more pages to go. And if they're not laughing now, it doesn't get better. I've always campaigned. I've always campaigned for a, like a call it button. Like literally, you just need a buzzer to be like, look, I'm going to call it right there. You guys didn't
Starting point is 00:36:33 like the first turn is 12 more just like it's going to get worse. Let's just move on. We're all tired. No, no, that's a that's a fence. That would improve the show and the quality of the show so much. If the writer, if the rule was whoever sketch it was, this is so perfect. So it's like, okay, we're going to read this sketch. It's written by Michael, Shane, Conan, or Brian. They wrote it together. You know, it's called Dr. Sneakers. And they give us each trust me, it's a good idea. And your name's on it. So you better fucking get behind it. But they give us each like a buzzer and we each have a buzzer because our sketch is being read. It's like Dr. Sneakers. And then he says the line that he's going to say 150 times that's bound to kill. These ain't
Starting point is 00:37:24 sneakers. I have seen sneakers. Nothing. And then he says it again. And then he says it again. And then you and I look at each other and we just non go hit the buzzer. We're out. Just guys just keep going. It's okay. Well, you know, figure it out. We'll figure it out. But everyone would be like, fine. And they would they would move ahead. But you're absolutely keep morale up. It would keep morale up where people are like, you know what? Yeah, that was bad. But also, you know, it's bad. And we can just keep going. Yeah. And you saved us from having to go through 60 pages of Dr. Sneakers, you know, Dr. Sneaker. Now, on a side note, I love Dr. Sneaker. Do you want to write it? Do you want to write it up with me? I'll write it up with you.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It's like you said, in 15 seconds, you just come up with Dr. Sneaker. Every t-shirt at the NBC store is literally when you get your Mark Twain prize. We're so confident in the sketch. We have this t-shirts made before we even picked the sketch. And we get them in the store. We were like, what the fuck is Dr. Sneakers? Oh, trust me, Mike and I, it's gonna be huge. Just started getting those out there. And yeah, that was yelling Dr. Sneakers at you at the airport all the time. Yeah, it was thank you. With my wife, with my kids, no Dr. Sneakers right now. Hey, Dr. Sneakers didn't tip. You gotta live that down. That story started out as Conan, you were nice, you were kind,
Starting point is 00:39:01 one of my shirts from me. And then you, it's just at the very end, just as we're about to, the sun is about to set on this beautiful story of kindly Conan. It's, hey, you didn't tip, didn't tip. You know, I was, I was saving up, I was saving up, saving up my money for rainy day. You know, I want to ask you about something that I think we connect on. At least I've heard this about you. I've noticed it definitely about your standup, which is a big part of your job at Star Night Live. And probably also the daily show is to do political humor or tell jokes about politics. But you said it's not your passion that you love finding human things to talk about that aren't necessarily just political. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Well, I just always feel like I don't think
Starting point is 00:39:53 that people have to agree with you to think you're funny, you know, just as a comedy fan. So I don't try to put out, I'm not telling the joke because I want you to agree with me. I'm telling you a joke because I want you to laugh at it, you know, the people that I like that rarely agreed with, you know, Archie Bunker. I didn't, I didn't think he was right, but I thought he was funny, you know, and I think when I approach political material content, I try to kind of come from the perspective of what does it sound like to somebody learning about all of this for the first time, you know, and doesn't have an agenda is just trying to make sense of it in their brain. You know, something that I used to love to watch, like my grandmother, my grandmother
Starting point is 00:40:38 passed away recently, beautiful woman, huge bigot. And she was, oh my gosh, she was the biggest bigot, but she was so funny, loving woman, loving woman, but you know, 80, 90 years old, you know, they grew up in a different time where stuff like that was true. And they didn't trust Puerto Americans that much. Like that was just a thing. Listen, that wasn't in the Constitution, but it should have been. But no, she was so funny. She was so, so, so funny. But everything that you, everything she said that was funny, she didn't know was funny. It would just be her trying to sound normal. It would just be the funniest thing you've ever heard. And I always thought there was something charming about people, no matter whether you agreed or disagreed,
Starting point is 00:41:27 them trying to make sense of it is where the funny lies. Yes, yes. And that's also where the human lies because you're like, man, I remember not knowing that too. So I can't really be mad at you because there was a time where I didn't know either. And I could only imagine what this must sound like to you without any other context. So that's what you're kind of laughing at. You're not laughing that it's right or wrong. You're laughing that it's just silly and funny. And so that's kind of my approach to that kind of thing. But I do feel like a lot. And that's also not not just because you're here, but that's also been what I love about your comedy on your show is that I've never, I never feel like you're preaching to us as audience. You're never like
Starting point is 00:42:11 saying, this is the way the world needs to be. You're getting the laugh. You're trying to get the laugh. And it's a, it's a pure way that it doesn't, you can tell us not that you don't care it's that you're not, you're there to make people have a good time no matter how they feel about you. Right. Right. And I think that's important. Sometimes I get lost when everybody is up there to, you know, change the world almost. I always liked coming at it from I'm down here in the muck with everybody else. And I'm not, I'm not better than anybody else. In fact, I might be worse. So I like my comedy coming out of that. And then that was all the stuff that I love growing up. Even the old stuff from like the thirties and forties, like people that they're the lowest of
Starting point is 00:42:52 the low, whether it's the Three Stooges or it's the Marx Brothers or the, you know, WC Fields, like they're, they're at the bottom of the ladder, you know, or even the classic silent people like Buster Keaton, they're at the bottom. And they always, they're never invited to the party. They're always crashing it or working it. Exactly. Yeah. And yeah. And I always think, well, that's, I always liked that. And I always prefer, I like the silly stuff. And I also think it endures. It absolutely does. It was really interesting to me because not too long ago I watched your, this standup special that you did. And it was fascinating because I could have sworn you had made it two days ago. But I realized it was because your approach was you were writing classic,
Starting point is 00:43:40 really good jokes that are eternal. When you did a chunk on Black Lives Matter, which was fantastic, there's no way anybody could watch that and not think, oh, Michael wrote this at the beginning of the pandemic right after George Floyd. And it's the perfect statement about this. And then you realize this was written in 2016 and performed in 2016. How the fuck did he do that? That's insane. That's one of my reasons why I like to write about kind of race stuff is because it, it always holds, you know? So like, if I write a joke about racism, I know it's going to be there next year too. And look, it's like, it's like, I write those race jokes for the same reason Mariah Carey wrote all I want for Christmas. It's always gonna play. It's always gonna be there.
Starting point is 00:44:37 It's gonna be Christmas next year too. You know what's so amazing? You, this is a case in point of you just said something that is indelibly sad, which is race jokes are always going to be relevant. And then immediately had us howling, because you said it's the same thing as Mariah Carey's Christmas songs. And suddenly, I'm laughing at one of the saddest things anyone said to me in a while. Because it's true. I know. I know. I know. It's stuff like that. It's like, that's kind of the weird position that you're in as somebody like that tells those kinds of jokes and that says those types of things where you're trying to tell people, look, this is, if you're not clean this up, this is what you can expect. And up until that happens, people say, well,
Starting point is 00:45:29 why didn't you say something? You know, we've been saying it for years. We've been writing these jokes. When I wrote in 2016, it was like, I just came up with it that day, because I was looking in the future. I was talking about what happened. You know what I mean? Five years then, you know, like this, that was a culmination of that. So it's, this is something that we've always been talking about. And it's something we've always felt. And we're trying to make it, we're trying to make you see it the way we're seeing it for the first time. So kind of getting back to the first thing we were saying, talking about in the joke structure, we're trying to make you see it the way we see it. We're trying to say it as plainly as the way we understand it. And sometimes it
Starting point is 00:46:08 still takes a while for people to, oh, that's what you mean? I guess that makes sense. You know what I mean? But like, even five years after the fact. Right. Well, I think even today, it's common. I'll just speak for myself. Like, it's not just a realization. It's constantly having to realize again and again and again and again and again. When people tell you it's always been this way. And then realize it again and then realize it again. And it's just, what are you drinking there? What do you got? This is just iced tea. This is, I don't know if you do sponsors, but this is peach iced tea. Well, if we did have a sponsor. I'm just kidding. It's whiskey. You know, and by the way, I've overlooked the fact that you're wearing a Yankee cap
Starting point is 00:46:54 throughout this campaign. Hey, man, it's okay. Listen, listen. Listen, somebody's got to win championships. Red Sox has done all right recently. You know, it's so funny. I grew up like the Yankee cap, whenever the Red Sox would play in Yankee Stadium and the game was on TV, we would watch it. And I was, we were all so scared of New York because we heard all these rumors that if someone wore a Red Sox cap in Yankee Stadium, they would murder you and the police wouldn't investigate. And it was like, that was a thing I really believed when I was a kid. Yeah. No, it's crazy. And I, you know, I was, I was a kid, you know, 25, 26. No, I'm kidding. I was a kid. I was, but I remember people in school, like other kids in school saying like, no, they'll,
Starting point is 00:47:51 they'll murder because, you know, in the 70s, New York was, you know, you, all these movies were out like Death Wish and Warriors where it was this lawless place where gangs wearing Yankee caps, you know, and weird face paint and full Yankee uniforms. That's the movie Warriors were, were, you know, and people were murdering and the police were just going, we can't stop it. It's too much murder. But we thought that's what we heard is that like, no one from Boston can go there because they'll find out you're from Boston and you'll be murdered. So it was triggering me, the Yankee cap. I will tell you, I did, I did a show, one of the first shows I ever did in Boston was at a place. Oh man, I can't remember the name of the place, but it used to turn into a night
Starting point is 00:48:40 club. It would be like a comedy club. And then it turned to a night club like right after the comedy show. It was right downtown. I can't remember the name of it. It's going to drive me nuts. But I was wearing the Yankee cap and these guys were just staring through me, like literally trying to set me on fire with their eyes. And, and I couldn't figure out why up until like 35 minutes into the set. I'm like, what is your problem? Like what are you guys not having? You haven't laughed once you just stared at me. It's like, so what the hat? I had to take my hat off to look at it. And I was like, a Yankee hat? Like, come on, that really, that's why you don't like me. It's not, not the dude with the goat fucking joke. Can you say that? No, we like that. No, the goat fucking
Starting point is 00:49:23 joke was good. We liked it. It was very well constructed. But the Yankee cap is something we can't get around. No, it is ridiculous. You know, the thing about the joke. They were so mad at me wearing a Yankee hat. I was like, are you serious? But you know what, that, that is a Boston thing that, that is a Boston thing where everybody in Boston wears a Boston Red Sox cap. And it's so redundant because you're like, literally you land and everyone there is wearing a Boston Red Sox cap. And you're like, we know, I understand that that's the team. We know. Got it. We knew it from the, from you holding that Dunkin' Nice coffee. We knew where you're from. In your car heart jacket. We know. We know. But it's this constant like, you know, we're from
Starting point is 00:50:11 Boston, right? And you know the Red Sox are our team, right? Go Sox. I'm like, yeah, okay. Yeah, we got it, bro. No, I, I outgrew that at a very young age. I thought I was laughing at Boston because there was like, you know, we're really a liberal city. I'm like, really, your curb stopped me if I was the wrong baseball team. You're liberal. You're liberal, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you seem very nice. No, I got out. I got out. I escaped. I escaped at a young age, and I didn't go back. I will say this about Boston. And you know, I'm not just pandering because everything shut down. So I can't perform anywhere even if I wanted to. But but Boston is easily one of my favorite cities to do comedy in. Oh, yeah. Great comedy town. So
Starting point is 00:51:00 it's an amazing comedy. I love performing in Boston. It's because it's, it's those people when you come to the show, they're there to laugh. Like it's something about working, working, working class cities. They're there to laugh. They got a babysitter for the night. You know what I mean? Like this is their night to be out and they're there to have a good time. And you can you can hit with anything if it's funny. And they'll let you know this isn't good. If it ain't good, you know, like they'll let you know this is boring. If it's boring, if somebody's funnier in the audience than you are on stage, give them the mic because we'll be on their side. We're just going to have a good ass time. So it's it's an honest, funny, funny, funny city
Starting point is 00:51:45 and a great place to like really perform. If you want to really test your material, I love going to Boston, Chicago, like certain cities that you're like, okay, this is where they get it. This is another invention you should have next to your along with your buzzer for the Cernot Live. We're out sketch Velcro patch that goes over your your Yankee logo. I mean, you just you and you keep and when you touch down, yeah, you just put the Velcro patch on and everyone's like, he gets it. And then yeah, it comes right off and goes back in your pocket when you get back on the shuttle. You ever do this thing? I was at Dave's house, Chappelle's house name drop. And and we were talking about it was a bunch of comedians and
Starting point is 00:52:24 people that we were talking about saying the wrong city, naming the wrong city on tour or whatever. Have you ever done that? No, you know why I'm so anxious about that, that I write it on a card. And I put it, I make sure that it's on the floor. But I mean, because I was so nervous about doing that, I really didn't want to do that. So I would be like, right, it's Minneapolis, that's where you know what I mean? Or it's weird that like, you could do so much counting, you've got all of this material memorized in your head, you got all these years of experience and performance and the thing you'll mess up is the city. Because it's changing all the time. It makes sense. It's changing, you know, and it makes sense because the other stuff, you when you've done it enough,
Starting point is 00:53:10 it's in your reptile brain. It's like in the part of your brain that's saying, hey, heartbeat and lungs expand and contract. And also, I just got my DNA test back. And then the whole hunk I do about getting my DNA test back, that's all in there because I said it so many times. And then the thing that changes every night is, whoa, Provo, Utah, you know, this is incredible, you know, and you want to make sure that you don't. And that's not in that part of the brain. That's in the part of the brain that needs to know that you, you know, whatever, the news that you just heard 10 minutes ago, that you have to remember that. So 100%. And also cities take it very, very personally, as if you know the difference. Like, you really, really care about the difference.
Starting point is 00:53:57 One time I said, I was in Grand Rapids, and I said, hello, Detroit. And you would have thought, I ate a baby on stage. Like, it was like, how did you call us Detroit? Like, dude, you're the same to me. I don't care. Just be a nice man. I don't care what this town is. But you know what? I have found, if you do, if you spend, yes, you get so much love, if you've put 20 minutes into, they actually have a statue of Fonzie downtown. I remember finding out, and I always ask around, and you just ask like the lighting guy, and you look up stuff online. And if you just say like, you know, if you show that you've spent eight seconds thinking about them before you go out there, they're like, how did he know? How could he know that St. Louis has an arch?
Starting point is 00:54:58 He knows about our Buffalo Wild Wings. Yeah, we know, man. He's some kind of magical man. Yeah. Just, you know, you take that much time. And that's like Trump's president, because he goes down to Iowa, and he'll say something like, hey, by the way, I'm like, get some corn. He's got to get corn! It's so funny. I watch him, and he kills with his crowds. And his material is, he has no material. And I'll sometimes look at him as just, I'll look at Trump as a comedian. And I'll think, well, he's not a good comedian, but he's sort of like an open mic emcee who owns the club, but he's not a comic. But he knows how to go out there and just say things like, oh boy, hot day here.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Oh, hot day. Oh boy, I sure would like to have some of that great beer that you make. Huh? Did you make that good beer? You're like, well, that's not funny. That's nothing. And yeah, you know, we can send that over to the Democrats. They probably wouldn't be able to hand it. Because it's them, because it's like, you know, Tim Robinson from as well, used to be when I was in the office, he calls it pre-slaps. Yeah. It's literally the joke of priests will say where everything. Oh my God, I can't believe the priest knows what beer we drink. You know, it's that kind of thing. No president is ever that horrifyingly normal. Right. You know, it used to be,
Starting point is 00:56:24 we don't want a guy that's normal. We want some brilliant dude that's going to be good at this job. He's like, now it's like, no, no, no, we want the idiot at the end of the bar that talks just like me and says all the things that I say, that doesn't horrify you at all. Like, no, it's more endearing now. It's kind of sad and scary. This guy's dumb like me. I don't want my doctor to talk like me. I want my doctor to say things that I don't understand. I mean, okay, this guy must know what he's doing. Yeah, I don't really know what's going on with you. But you know what, I'll tell you something. I could use a brew right now and you want to go get a brew? Well, no, no, there's every time I shit, there's a lot of blood. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Really? I don't know, man. That sounds rough. Hey, look at her. Look at her. Man, she's got a nice figure on her. Let's go bowling sometime. What do you say? No, no, there's a lot of blood. It's mostly blood now. It's all blood. There's no stool anymore. It's just blood. Well, you know, I don't know. Well, why don't you take a look at mine? It might look normal to you. Hey, I like this guy. I think I'm dying. I think it's probably cancer of the bone marrow. But I like this guy. He gets me. He gets, he's a guy I can hang out with. Hey, Michael, I have kept you for way too long. And I've been, I've been doing it just because I'm having such a great time. Man, this is a blast, dude. Yeah, it is absolute joy to get to talk to you. And I would love to be a friend of yours.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I'd like to hang out with you when we're allowed to all hang out together. You know, that'd be, I'd love to, I'd really like to hurt your street cred is what I'm saying. Dude, you know, it's so great. I want to take you down a few notches. My favorite thing is like that clip you did on when you went to the Apollo. You went to the Apollo with Dapper Dan and all of that. Man, you, you got the pass to go anywhere. You're loved. You know what I like is it makes me happy. It was so funny. Cause it's, and it's also, you're never trying. You're always just being Conan and it, and it's, it comes across and it's amazing to watch. That's coming from you. That is, that is incredibly
Starting point is 00:58:52 sweet. That's really nice. And that makes my day really does. Actually, that's going to make my week. That's going to make my week. I think so. Actually, yeah. It's Thursday. We don't really, it's kind of a short week. That's why I said it makes the week. And I'm not including the weekend. And that gets me through today and then tomorrow. And then I'll hate myself again, Saturday morning. Hey, Michael, listen, an absolute honor, a real honor and, and please be well, stay well and keep doing what you're doing. And thank you so much. Last week, Conan, you mentioned how your voice is an immediate boner killer and is sterilizing men throughout the world. And you said that you might try reading some erotic fiction as an example of what you mean. Yeah, I think this
Starting point is 00:59:48 will prove my point. By the way, I had to come back and put this disclaimer in that some of the language you're going to hear isn't safe for children, although the tone is very safe for children. Here we go. Show me how you pleasure yourself. Keep still. We're going to have to work on keeping you still, baby. Let's see if we can make you come like this. You're so deliciously wet. God, I want you. I'm going to fuck you now, Miss Steel. Hard. Come from me, Anna. Anyone arouse? I don't think so. No. Oh my God. Here we go. I pull him deeper into my mouth so I can feel him at the back of my throat. No. End of the front again. My tongue swirls around the end. I can't. He's my very own Christian grave-flavored popsicle. I suck harder and harder. My inner goddess is
Starting point is 01:00:31 doing the meringue with some salsa moves. Here we go some more. Here's the old climax. You're going to take this and like it. You're like, I can't do it. He leans down and kisses me as fingers still moving rhythmically inside me, his thumb circling and pressing. His other hand scoops my hair off my head and holds my head in place. His tongue mirrors the actions of his fingers, claiming me. My legs begin to stiffen as I push against his head. He gentles his hand so I'm brought back from the brink. I come instantly again and again, falling apart beneath him. Then I'm building again. I climax anew, calling out his name. Suddenly he grabs me, tipping me across his lap. With one smooth movement, he angles his body so my torso is resting on the bed
Starting point is 01:01:10 beside him. He throws his right leg, not his left, his right. Over both mine and plants his left forearm, not the right, but the left, on the small of my back, holding me down so I can move. He places his hand on my naked behind so there's no clothing on that behind. It's as naked as the day I was born, wearing my birthday suit, I tell you. He's softly fumbling me, stroking around and around with his flat palm. And then his hand is no longer there. What happened? Is it a magic trick? Nope. Then he hits me hard. That's right, he hits me, but in a way that's not creepy at all. We lie there, pending together, waiting for our breathing to slow. He gently strokes my hair. Boy, I survived. That wasn't so bad. I'm more stoic than I thought. My inner goddess is prostrate.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Well, at least she's quiet. That's awful. That is awful. I want to read. I want to read. I want to do the audiobook for this. No, that was terrible. Sitting beside me, he gently pulls my sweatpants down, up and down like a horse draws. A horse draws? What? What does that mean? What is that? A horse draws? Who's called them drawers in 150 years? But the horse draws my subconscious remarks bitterly. In my head, I tell her where to go. Christian squirts baby oil into his hand and then rubs my behind with careful tenderness, from makeup remover to soothing balm for a spanked ass. Who would have thought it was such a versatile liquid? What? What? It sounds like an ad. It's a versatile liquid. From makeup remover to soothing balm for a spanked ass. Wow, what a versatile
Starting point is 01:02:34 liquid. You want some? You can get it here. Order now on Amazon. Oh, my God. That was traumatizing for me. Here we go. Oh, there's more? Please, I can't stop. He holds out his hand in his palm are two shiny silver balls linked with a thick black bead inside me. I gasp and all the muscles deeply in my belly clench. No. My inner goddess is doing the dance of the seven veils. Oh, my. Now it's a curious feeling. Gotta tell you, when they're inside me, I can't really feel them. But then again, I know they're there. Oh, my. Well, I have to keep these. They make me needy. I needy for sex if I wasn't clear. Yes, the neediness is for sex. Wow. I never needed to hear that. Yeah. That was the worst thing that ever happened. No, no, no. I love, I love like, I just love,
Starting point is 01:03:19 can I just say, I know enough about this to know that in the last movie, they get married. And I'm telling you, I'm 18 years in a marriage and I'm telling you, this is, this bullshit ends shortly after the wedding. Yeah. I'm telling you, the fact that they get married and then he's like, well, let's go upstairs and I'm going to put you in that special leather room. Yeah. And I've got these balls that I'm going to place inside your body. Oh. What the fuck are you talking about? We're late for the Schlesingers. We've got to go. I told Connie, I'd be there. What? No, it just, it takes, it doesn't take that long and you have to be a good girl. Don't fucking talking to me about this good girl stuff. I told you,
Starting point is 01:03:59 I need you mailed you this morning and you know, we're going to Schlesingers and we're bringing a pot pie. Yes. I would have been really happy if this never happened. Yeah. Well, I hope I killed that fan, that popular series for everybody. I think so. Yeah, I think you did it. That was awful. Yeah. In every sense of the word. But in a way, I think the way I read it, it's safe for everybody. Like I could read that to anybody and they, they would be no, because it doesn't sound sexual at all. You know what I mean? I take all the sex out of it. You really do. Yeah. It's incredible what my voice can, somehow made it family friendly. I did. I turned it into, it sounds like I'm reading Ikea instructions. You know what I mean? It
Starting point is 01:04:41 sounds like I'm reading, I might as well be reading a recipe for, you know, fruit salad or something. Yeah. Yeah. Although I still feel the need to go back and put a little disclaimer, something like, by the way, I had to come back and put this disclaimer in that some of the language you're going to hear isn't safe for children, although the tone is very safe for children. Yeah. Although it's said in such a way, what Conan's about to say is not safe for children, but the way he's saying it has removed all eroticism. Yeah. Because of the boner killing power of his voice. Warning, if you are trying to conceive, do not listen to this podcast. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair, and our associate talent producer is Jennifer Samples.
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