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Episode Date: July 8, 2021Conan talks to Brenna from Louisville, Colorado about herpetology and what kind of species Conan would want to be named after him. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: TeamCoco.com/Call...Conan
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Okay, let's get started. Conan, Sona, meet Brenna.
Hello, Brenna. How are you? Good. How are you? Good to see you.
Good to see you as well. Tell us. I have so many questions for you.
Brenna, tell us a little bit about yourself. I see that you like the color purple because
the wall behind you is painted a very dynamic purple. Yes, it is. Well, my name's Brenna.
I'm from Louisville, Colorado, and I graduated with a degree in biology, and I was studying
herpetology, which is study of reptiles and amphibians. I thought that was a study of
herpes. I got confused for a second. Basically what everybody thinks. Yeah, well, it's not
the first joke I've made that everyone else has also made. So, herpetology is the study
of reptiles. Yeah, reptiles and amphibians. And that's what you studied. Do you use that
in your current life? Do you use the fact that you studied reptiles? Well, during college,
I went and I studied abroad in Australia, and so that's like the home of the best reptiles
and amphibians, in my opinion. Excuse me, I'm sorry. I'm a proud American, so no. I
think we've got the killer. I don't like this. I go to other countries for the good reptiles.
If you like those countries so much, why don't you marry them? I'm sorry. I snapped at you,
Brenna. I'm really way too keyed up. You went, of course. Of course, I've been to Australia,
and I love America, but I do think Australia has the better reptiles. Yeah, they're definitely
really cool. But anyway, so then after I graduated, I worked at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology,
and back in Australia, though, and I was studying birds. So that was a different thing, but it's
not technically what I do for work right now. Do you feel like you betrayed the reptiles to
study birds? Well, some people say that birds are just like modern-day dinosaurs, so they're
basically a reptile, but not really. Yeah, I don't say that at all. They say there are reptiles
and there are birds. So I don't care what some people say who are misinformed and took the wrong
message away from Jurassic Park. Anywho, here's what I'll say. You've studied these things. I'm
very proud of you because I love meeting young people that are learning and studying and just
aren't on TikTok all the time, you know, and eating their gummy weed. But you actually have
studied things. What do you do now? So I work for a really cool nonprofit called Reverb,
and what we do is we work with touring musicians and bands to make their tours more environmentally
friendly. Oh, that's a very cool idea. Yeah, so it's kind of combined science and my other
love of music and art and things like that. I like that because I love music and I think it's
important to take care of the planet. So let's say I was going to go out on the road with my band,
The Bad Clams, and we were going to perform our newest album, Taking It to the Limit,
and we were going to go out there, I'm just making this up, but I'm out there with my band,
The Bad Clams, and we're doing our album, Taking It to the Limit, and I want to do a tour. How would
you advise me to be environmentally friendly? So there's things that we do like front of house
and then backstage. Backstage we do things like make sure there's recycling and compost and all
the basic stuff, but also we have fans come. So your fans at The Bad Clams would come and they
would basically be volunteers and they would volunteer for an hour, give their time, talk
about some cool environmental things that we're doing, maybe sell some water bottles to raise
money for some local nonprofits, and maybe we'd have your tour bus be powered by environmentally
friendly eco fuels or things like that. But here's the problem, Brenna, I don't know if you know what
my fans are like, especially fans of my bands, The Bad Clams. What are they called? Your fans?
They're called clambers or clam heads, whatever. But when clam heads show up at my show, they're
all smashed on Molly. So when you try and get them to gather around out by the bus that burns
French fry oil and has a rainbow painted on the side, they're going to be like, screw this man,
Bad Clams, Bad Clams, bring out the band, you know, and they'll be spinning and jumping around and
playing hacky sack, even though there's no hacky sack pillow, they'll think there is. So that's the
problem is I think sometimes rock and roll and environmentally conscious meetings just before
a rock show may not mix. Do you ever have that problem? Well, we work with a pretty diverse
amount of like artists of different types of genres and ages and things like that. And we
haven't really had that problem. I think a lot of it has to do with that these people get to go
to the show for free. So they volunteer and then they get to go. Yeah, free. I see what you're
doing free. Anyone will show up and they'll do as they're told. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Well,
I like what you're doing. Do you think your love of reptiles is ever going to come back into the
picture? Do you think you're ever going to get back to reptiles back to your true passion? I hope
so. So I hope to go to grad school in the future and maybe get my PhD. Are you trying to save up
for grad school? Is that the idea? Yeah, but you're working for a nonprofit. Are they paying you
at the nonprofit? Yeah, they are. You gotta go to Wall Street, man. Go to Wall Street and buy some
Bitcoin. You know, a lot of science jobs are fully funded when you go to grad school, so you
don't have to pay a whole lot. Right. That's cool. Right. I applaud you and I applaud what you're
doing. And I think it's very cool. I do too. I really think you seem like a good person. Now,
let's hear about, look, we've heard about Brenna, the herpetologist. We've heard about Brenna,
the nonprofit, eco-friendly orchestra and band organizer. We've heard about that. We've heard
about that Brenna. But what about the real Brenna, the flesh and blood Brenna, who lives and breathes
who I'm speaking to now? Tell us about you. What do you like as a person? What kind of family do
you come from? Who are you? Well, I come from a family of four. I have a mom and a dad and an
older brother. I've got two snakes and a tortoise and a dog. I like, I like music. You have two
snakes. What kind of snakes do you have? I have a ball python and a Borneo short tail python. What?
Can they attack you and kill you? No, I wouldn't think so. They're about four feet long. I wouldn't
think so. I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so means that you've put very little thought into
this. Well, they're not that big, but if you maybe were just like gave up, maybe they could.
What you're saying is that if you got into a fight with your four foot long python,
the only way you would die is if you decided what's the point. Yeah. Okay, so if a four foot
python attack is combined with severe depression, then that would be the end of you, right? Other
than that, you'd be fine. Okay. Sonya, you just keep making noises like, oh, I'm sorry. You know
what's so weird? Sonya is very pregnant and you're super empathetic right now. She said,
I come from a family. She said, I have a mom, a dad and an older brother. And you went, oh,
she just described the most common nuclear family in the world. And you went, oh, that's
like my family though. Oh, for God's sake. She said, I come from a giant Irish family of six
people with six kids. If Brenna had said, and I mean this, if Brenna had said, if I'd said,
Brenna, so tell us a little bit about yourself. Well, right now I'm wearing sneakers. You'd have
gone, aw, sneakers, pillows for the feet. Brenna, I want to know a little bit. Tell me
about your dad. I like to know about the dad. I think the dad is often the key, the psychological
key. I know he is with me. If you're listening, pop, you know what you did. Go ahead. He's not
listening. I know. He's not listening, trust me. My dad works for a company called the Kong
Company. If you've ever heard of it, they make dog toys and cat toys and things like that.
You're kidding. I know Kong. I know Kong too. Yeah. And so he designs a lot of dog toys.
So I, let me explain to our listeners in case they don't know Kong is, it's almost this,
it's got kind of a three-dimensional triangular shape, but it's rounded. Kind of like a small man.
Like a snowman or a cone. And then there's a hole in it and you put a dog treat in it.
And the genius move behind it, it's kind of sick and sadistic, but it works,
is you throw it in the middle of the lawn and your dog goes trotting over and he knows there's
a treat in there, but he can't get at it. So he spends hours, hours trying to get the treat out.
That sounds awful. Well, that's what Kong is and Kong works. Okay. Yeah. It works. What is it,
what is it supposed to do? It's supposed to keep your dog's mind busy. So like, or if they, maybe
if they have separation anxiety or something, when you leave the house, you could give them the Kong,
it keeps them busy, keeps their mind occupied while you're away, things like that. It's basically,
look, if I told my older brother, Neil, there's a strawberry rhubarb pie in that room, but I
locked it and you're not going to get in there. And, and I took away all of Neil's tools. That's
basically what it is. That's what Kong is. And, and Neil was just pawing at this door. I'm sorry,
but my brother doesn't know how to use his fingers. He just paws at things. But anyway,
Kong is kind of ingenious. It worked with our dog for a while. And then I think our dog went online
and, and ordered an exacto blade and just, and, and just chopped up the Kong and got the treat out.
I would do that. Yeah. So, um, but it's good for your dad. So your dad works for that company. He
works. Have you noticed something? Your father indirectly works with animals and your dreams
to work with animals. Yeah. And it's also kind of a cool creative job and I do art and things like
that. So I guess I get that from him, but my mom also had a degree in graphic design. So I guess
it's a little bit. You come from a smart family. Do you have a question for me, uh, Brenda? Because
I do like to try and help people if I can. Okay. So picture this. You, you have a fan who is a
biologist, but like an explorer and they've gone into the Amazon or into the jungle in Australia
or somewhere in the world and they found a new species. What would you want that species to be?
And they're your fans. So they want to name it after you. So what is that animal? It could be
a plant. It could be a mineral if you really want, but what would it be named and what would it be?
Well, first, let me get a plant or a mineral. No, no, no. It's not going to be a plant or a
mineral. I despise plants and minerals. Oh, I won't eat a salad and I think rocks are a huge waste
of time, uh, and should be crushed into the smallest size possible. Um, I do. I've always been, I've
been, I've been, uh, anti rock my whole life. What do they do? They're just there and everyone's
like, dude, look, it's a rock. Um, so no. What an important position. Yeah. Well, sorry. I like
to stake out controversial positions and I'm not afraid. Um, I get some online hate for my anti
rock views, but I'll stick by them. Brenna, first of all, I love how you said picture this. Imagine
there's a fan and then you described yourself to a team. A woman whose dad designs a dog toy.
Let's call it a glong. Um, and let's just imagine, if you will, that she studied reptiles, uh, and
is maybe going to study reptiles again and go to, say, Australia, the only place you've been.
So you're not fooling anyone, Brenna. It's clear that that was your way of telling me you're a
huge fan and, uh, you know, you just were too embarrassed to say it. I think that's what, yeah,
got you. What would I want? I would want, I have to say, when I was over in Australia, I loved
those animals, uh, that just sort of hang around, you know, like your sloths or your, what's the one
that, uh, koalas. I like a real chill animal, but I think that most people wouldn't associate that
with me. No. So it's probably going to have to be some kind of a lemur, a lemur with darting,
Steve Buscemi eyes. Yeah. And it's like me. It's hyped up. It thinks way too much. It's, it's on
something. Um, and it's hyper. It doesn't live as long as other mammals. Uh, but it's super jittery
and it's got a lot of ideas and it talks too much. So that would be the animal that I would want.
Am I describing an animal that actually exists? Yeah. Based off of what you were saying and like
short lived kind of just like goes for it and is also kind of orange. Um,
I never said orange. I never said orange. I never said orange. And you really hit the short live
thing. Let's not hit that too hard. You said so many things and short lived is what she went off of.
Because I had in my mind, I was thinking of a quoll, which is an Australian mammal that only
lives for about a year. Okay. Yeah. But what a year. I mean, I know it's only a live for a year,
but the female quolls know it's only around for a year. So they, he's got like a bad boy reputation.
He's like a James Dean. They know. And so he gets a lot of action. He hits it and quits it
pretty much. Yeah. Right. So it's a quoll. Yeah. It's really cool. You should look it up and see
what it looks like sometime. Yeah. So I'm gonna do that for me. I don't look things up. Uh,
uh, quoll. How do you spell that? Q-U-O-L-L. Q-U-O-L-L. That's what I want. I want to be a species
of quoll. Oh my God. Let me see it. Oh God. Let me check it out. Let me take a look at this quoll
here. It's not cute. It is cute. It's cute. You know what? I want to say it is an exotic rat.
It's a rat. It's not a rat. It's a marsupial. I'm telling you what it looks like. Oh,
does that mean it has a pouch if it's a marsupial? Yes. Okay. Look at me. Oh, you got a pouch.
Yeah. So it's, it looks like a rat that's traveled a lot in Europe, has family money,
and has a fanny pack, i.e. pouch. That's what the quoll looks like. And you know what? We have to
name a quoll after me, Conan O'Brien. That's what I want. I want, I want the quoll. What does it
only live for a year? Does it ride a motorcycle? What is it? What's the problem with the quoll?
You know, I was talking to my professor about this and I had these same questions and I'm not
entirely sure if I got the answer or if I just don't remember, but. I think it's. I love your
honesty. My professor told me he either, I don't know. I don't think I was listening.
But we were on a camping trip and he studies spotted quolls in Australia. And it's like one of the
shortest lifespans of any mammal. So I think they just, you know, they get what they need done quickly.
Yes, you have to be efficient. Yeah. If I was a quoll and people were saying to me,
hey Conan, do you mind? I want to, hey, hey, hey, I got a year. I got a year. No, I'm not,
no, I'm not going to tell you which cork board I prefer. That's your decision. I don't have time
for this. Yeah. What would you be, do you like working on your novel? No, you just, you said
it yourself, hit it and quit it all the time. Living life to the edge. I would be traveling
constantly. So many drugs. Oh man, to be a quoll. Yeah. It's only a year, but what a year. Well,
Brenna, um, you're an inspiration to me and I'll tell you why because you're young and smart and
you see them like a cool person and you're using your mind and those are all things that
impress me a great deal. Thanks. So, and, and I think you're going to get a quoll named after me.
Maybe. What do you mean maybe? Just say yes. Well, it's kind of hard to find new mammals these days.
Tell me about it. I'll try. What? I just like, tell me about it. Hard to find new mammals.
Tell me about it. Conan, are you looking for mammals? I'm in the bars all the time. I can't
meet a decent new mammal. Okay. Um, Brenna, you've pretty much promised me you're going to find a new
species of, of quoll that has not been named yet and, and you have to give me the Latin equivalent
of Conan, whatever that would be. Okay, sounds good. I mean, Conan is Conan. Conan-ness. I don't
know. Well, don't make it sound like penis. Have two parts. So you got to have two parts to that.
No, I know they have to have two parts, but it has to be like Conan. We got to figure this out. We
got it. Conan-ness. Conan-ness. Oh, Brian-ness. No, no, let's Lizzie a Brian part. Oh, you don't want it.
That's, that's, yeah, I guess giving my, uh, my brothers and sisters a free ride. So many animals
have just like the same name twice. Like gorilla, gorilla is scientific name for a gorilla.
Conan-ness. Conan-ness. Or Conan-conan. Just Conan-conan. It gets the name out twice. It's good for
marketing. Doesn't sound like a Latin name. Excuse me. We've decided. Okay. You were going
down conious and gloonious and that's no good. You said you didn't like it to rhyme with penis,
so I just kept going with, with that. Well, guess what, Brenna, we're out of time.
Sona is really getting on my last nerve. I really like talking to you and best of luck. And where
are you right now as we speak? I'm in Louisville, Colorado. Oh, very cool. All right. How's the
weather there? It's really hot today. Oh, outside Boulder. Man. Yeah. It's like 90 something right
now. Brenna, a true joy and a pleasure. Thank you very much for joining us. Well, thanks for having
me. I just wanted to thank you. When I was in the Bunya Mountains, I had to do a lot of work just in
the field by myself and I started listening to the podcast and it brought me a lot of joy. It was
you and Arcade Fire who really got me through 2020. So hey, I'm in good company. I love Arcade Fire.
I love them too. If anyone from Arcade Fire is listening, just know I love you.
Okay. But sort of more, a little more Conan than Arcade Fire. Well, you know,
no, I love you. Brenna, I only have a year to live and that's how you treat me.
Yeah. I'm a very short, I'm a very short-lived mammal. She came on the podcast just to get to Arcade
Fire. You're using me to get to Arcade Fire. I love it. No. Brenna, seriously, thank you very much.
Just one more thing. The DIY Conan episode that you did this last year. My dog and I were in it.
I played Sona. My dog played you, Conan. Oh my god. Do you want to show you the picture? Yeah, show me
the picture so you can find it. Yes. I remember that. I remember that. That was really funny.
Thanks. That was great. And so we got the little Conan Funko Pops. I saw that in the back. Do you
see that Funko Pop? Yeah, we want those back, by the way. We realized your, yeah, your entry
wasn't legitimate. So you need to return. Okay. Well, yeah, we're coming for them right now.
I'm sending three marsupials to get them back. Hey, Brenna, thanks for being such a cool fan.
I really appreciate it. Well, thanks for having me. It was really special. Yeah, we'll see you
soon. I know we will. Where are Pazzle Crosse? You'll see. We'll do. Bye-bye. Bye.
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