Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Spinal Tap Live From The SiriusXM Garage

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Conan is joined by Spinal Tap’s Nigel Tufnel, Derek Smalls, and David St. Hubbins (Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer, and Michael McKean) as well as filmmaker Marty Di Bergi (Rob Reiner) for a conversation live from the SiriusXM Garage in anticipation of their long-awaited sequel documentary Spinal Tap II: The End Continues. Episode Sponsored by Airbnb. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: [phone]. Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.

Hey, Conan O'Brien here. We're trying a little something different on this episode because it's a very special episode. We're going to start out with fans, people who are here in the audience, telling you how they feel about being Conan O'Brien's friend. But let's see what's on people's minds. Hi, my name's Eric D. And I feel wistful about being Conan O'Brien's friend. My name is Rebecca, and I feel vengeful. I feel elated.

Over-eager. So-so. Nervous. Wachtoes intolerant. Unprepared. Cautiously optimistic. I feel fine. Honored.

Ginger chic. Fantastic. Swell. Fabulous. Stupendous. Unoriginal. Unorginced. Sautically.

Shocked as fuck. Perpuscular. Sneaky. Silly. Choice. Stoked. In awe. Anxious.

Electric. Stunned. Unworthy. Nistolich. Suspicious. Sherbolike. Committed. Felice.

Rasmtazteous. Lucky. Fiscive. Fusive. Cosure. Apprehensive. Nuts. Blest.

Ecstatic. Aroused. Gras. We excited. Everything. Rad as. Eap. Hi.

My name's Amanda, and I feel frog about being Conan O'Brien's friend. Thank you. Thank you very much. Please. Please. Don't chant the Conan. It sounds like a Salem witch trial. Very nice to you.

A gentleman tried to high-five me, fist bump on the way in. I don't do well with those. If you saw me on the street, would you hold up your hand? I don't. I never make a good connection. I'm usually holding something. I apologize to that, gentleman, but those frighten me. All right.

Also, that can be confused for a fascist salute. which would have been funny five years ago, but now it's getting scary. How you all doing? You're ready to go? All right. This guy over here grew the beard that I had about eight years ago.

Fantastic. That's my beard, man. I want it back. How are you? How long did it take you to grow that? Six hours. Wow, you're just infused with testosterone. Mine took nine years.

I mean, sneezed, and it fell off. This is a very special show that we have. have today, these guys are my heroes. I will time travel with you to 1984. I'm an incredible comedy nerd. I'm in Cambridge, Massachusetts. And one of my friends says, I believe it was Mark Silber, said, hey, let's go see Spinal Tap. It just came out. I hear it's funny. I said, what is that? He said, you never seem to know anything. Your career will flounder. and we took the tea over into a theater and we saw Spinal Tap

and it opened so many doors in my mind to what was possible in comedy and I just saw you wearing the Conan's shirt you look lovely, how are you? Okay, all right, how are you? Nice to see you. I used to go, wow, and I go, like a cat with leukemia.

Sorry, dark image, but it happens. happens all the time okay that was nothing um my point is that uh that movie meant so much to me and if you had told that guy i'm very i'm not uh at all jaded i'm very sentimental and i have a very good contact with the young conan of 1984 and i'm able to access that guy and he's freaking out right now because he's going to hang out with the people who changed his life all those years ago so that's awesome for me and it's nice that you're all here to take part in that. I think we're going to have a very good time. Play

Spinal Tap guys, they mean anything to you? I know you're very young. I mean, when I say young, you're like in your late 50s. I'm so excited. Okay. Very good. You've been working on that answer all day. He was riding in his car. Iconic. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Iconic. I'm so excited. I'm iconic. Excited. Me, I am. We're going to have a good time. We're going to have a great time. I've been looking forward to this show for a while. Look, there are times I'm talking to a guest, and I absolutely loat them. And I think you could tell Oliphant, I mean, people I despise.

I think you just saw that when you talk to talk to me. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, we've never done it. You've never been on a guest on the podcast. Oh, that's true. And for good reason. You and I are oil and water in the best way. We make a good salad dressing.

I think we should get the show started. Thank you all very much for being here. You're a big part of this show. And we're going to have a good time. But really, there is no Conan O'Brien needs a friend without two of my good friends. And I say that in quotes. because I want to create some emotional detachment from them

Sona Mofsessian and Matt Gore let's get a minute It's a very long corridor to get a very long corridor to get from backstage to this is a strange setup here at Sirius XM in L.A and so what happens is

what people are hearing at home is a sustained applause like our screening of our movie at the Venice Film Festival just aired and it's getting a nine minute because that's people very graciously applauding and cheering after we've been announced but then 10 minutes of us walking

and avoiding high fivers I see you you son of the bitch in the hallway it's this long walk and that creates the audio illusion for the people listening at home that you guys got that long sustained applause we were right outside the door

No, you called us. Yeah, we were. And we walked in, and they just wouldn't stop. I announced you, and I have, I'm access to your app. You called an Uber. You called an Uber as I announced you. You have access to my app? I have access to all your apps.

You perverse to your own app. I don't have. I have access to your apps, and that's true. Do you know that I can't post on social media? I'm not allowed to. I'm like Ronald Reagan with the nuclear codes. They won't let me near any way that I could possibly start riffing spontaneously online. And so Sona, I would have to call you.

Yeah, that's true. If I want to order a hamburger on Grubhub, not a sponsor, I would have to call you. I do that with my wife, too. I'm like, can you order the pizza that's next door? Can you do it? I do, my email is attached to your Uber and the food delivery services. So every time you order something or an Uber, it pops up. And I know exactly where you're going.

Right. I know exactly what you're eating. Yeah. So we have some questions about some places you've been going. Yeah. I didn't know Hooters delivered. I was just stunned. Wait, Stacy's a wonderful lady.

Stacey with an eye and it's a little heart. She comes and delivers it. And we just chat about. you know how the Berlin Wall fell and it's just all kinds of fascinating stuff yeah we have some interesting facts about this audience do you know that some of them come from far and wide to be I would hope so because this is a but this of all the shows we've done this is going to be up there with one of the most important ones I think so when you hear this not only Toronto where are you awkward oh that is so awkward maybe they

didn't make it here awkward wait who gave you this information I was I think it's just You don't need the mic, you don't need it. You don't need it, though. You don't need it, though. Yeah, Mike, you don't need your mic, just speak. I think it's just, you don't have to.

You're so close to the microphone, too. If anything, could you step out of the room and just talk at a whisper? We'll still hear you. You're the loudest person we know, and you're in a small room. Into your mouth. Maybe just Canada.

I thought it was Toronto, but maybe just Canada. No, maybe. You know, can I just sign? I don't know. So, who are you? California. Okay.

Wait a minute. Well, Blay, you came to us all giddy, and you said, I've got some info. It's going to be rocket fuel for the top of the show. We've got someone from Toronto. We don't have anyone from Toronto. Anyone out there? There's other place. There's other place.

Oh, there is someone outside. Oh, it's high five McGee. Yeah, okay. But that's not all. But that's not all. Yes. Mexico. Oh, my God.

Right there. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Wow. And then finally. Very reluctantly. raised his hand. I know. You are welcome here. We're happy to have you. Yes.

Ola, how'sta? Please let this one be real. New Zealand? Wow. There we go. Just for the show. Check that guy out. No, no.

Can I tell you something? People say, when they see a guy like Blay, they say I came all the way just for the show. But whenever I question these people for more than two seconds, it's, well, of course, I'm getting a heart replaced while I'm here at Cedar Sinai, and I had an extra hour. So were you here just for the show? show, be honest. Yes!

I knew it. Whenever someone says just for the show, it's not true. No one, and first of all, I don't blame you, sir, although I'm going to ask you to leave. It's just what happens. You're like cable news. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. You get excited. You get very loud, and you get very excited, and then your information is all wrong. I've been here. I've been here for two and a half months. I've been here for two and a half months. I've been here.

I'm not making fun of you. I'm trying to perfect my accent. Wait, how is this not making fun of it? I'm not making fun of you. By the way, I'm just making fun of her. I'm not making fun of you. I'm a student in accents.

This is what I do. Is it really? Yes, this podcast is in my real job. Could you do Australian then do New Zealand? Okay, so Australia means like putting all the shrimp in the bobby. Park the car in the car park, mate. No, that's someone that's at the dentist having their teeth. That's someone with a terrible facial wound.

Park the car in the car pack That's John F. Kennedy Yeah Park the car in the car pack Okay stop it You know what I love You're my assistant I hired you as my assistant

And now you're out here Doing 10 minutes of impressions I honest to God Don't know what's happened Oh you want French Oh give us your French guy Oh the French is very easy That's pretty good

French French is very easy It's unbelievable I hired her to help with correspondence. Get me into the DMV and out. Yeah. And no, now you're doing this. Balloon animals.

Do you do balloon animals? You would? I mean, you got to... Should I do a yes-and? Yes, and I do balloon animals. Yes, Arne. And I do face painting. That's good improv.

Should I do yes-and? Welcome to the unconfident improv troupe. Yes. Welcome to my candy shop. Should I do yes-and? Yes-and. I wasn't making. I'm making fun of you, I promise. I love, I feel like I'm just, like, becoming an accent expert.

So that's like, I was just doing a study. And she did nail you because that's, you know, you did. Been here? You went, I've been here. Well, you're welcome. And I hope that the business that you're doing here is productive. You've been here a long time. And then you, I guess, found this ticket on the street. I love up front, you created this, people have come from all over the world. cut to I was in Glendale and getting my car wash next door

here in mid-central Hollywood what do you say? Should we get going? I think it's time. It's very exciting. Let's do this. All right. We are very excited. This is really happening. My guest today are absolute legends of rock and roll and known as one of England's loudest bands. Their new documentary

Spinal Tap 2, The End continues. Such a great title is in theaters September 12th. I am very honored. They are here today. These gentlemen changed my life. I think they changed many of the lives of people here. Please welcome filmmaker, Marty DeBergy

and members of Spinal Tap, Nigel Derek Smalls, and David St. Hubbins. Thank you. Hello. We are Spinal Tap. Yep. And we feel... What do we feel? About what? About... About being Conan O'Brien's

friend. Mixed, right? So mixed. So far, yeah. Marty? Mixed? Well, I'm very happy to be Conan's friend.

Well, that's where the mix comes in. I'd like anybody to be my friend and I can be yours. It's not a two-way street. Oh. Yeah. I hate to break it to you. It's not even a street.

You look so much smarter with the glasses. Oh, thank you. You like the glasses, huh? Isn't that nice? shorter, too. Well, you're sitting down. I'm going to go with mixed.

You feel mixed. Because we don't know what's going to happen today. One of us. You know, no one is up in the air. We're all. the same and yet we're all completely different. Let me begin by telling you it's an honor to have you

here. It really is. And I made this very clear to my audience before he came out. I saw your original film, This is Spinal Tap. The documentary made by the great Mario DeBurgy in 1984 and it changed my life. I was not aware of your band. In what way did it

change your life? For the worst. It changed it for the worst. Yeah. I went into a long depression. Your life must have been an open wound before this film. Did it make you taller? I came out during second, I think the second Obama administration, I recovered myself. Wow. Well, good. But deep depression. But it really did, in so many ways, it introduced me to your work that I was not aware of.

I hate to say that, but I really wasn't. I just missed. No, no, no. Okay. But you said it. What's that? But you said it. I know. I did say it. And it was wrong. It was wrong to say it. And I apologize. I just was unaware. I won't use the term niche, but somehow your uvra had escaped me. And then Marty did this incredible thing. He brought you to my attention. And Marty, this has been 41 years since the original film. Yes. And I must say that this is the first time that I've ever been allowed to be on a stage with these gentlemen who I've admired for so many years.

I was always a big fan. And I've never been allowed to be on the stage with them. You haven't drawn full reason. You keep that up, and it would be the last time. It doesn't feel like it's going well so far, but I think you will acquit yourself well, Marty. Marty, I hate to bring this up, but one of the reasons that you got involved in this project

is that you have struggled since you made the original, This is Spinal Tap in 1984. Yeah. You have struggled greatly. You have had difficulty finding employment. Well, I was hoping that when I made, this is spinal tap, which by the way, the members of the band

were not too thrilled when they saw it. They called it a hatchet job and they were not happy with how they were portrayed. I thought it was a loving portrayal, but I guess they felt differently, but I was hoping that it would you know, basically

boost my career. Give me an opportunity to do like a Hollywood feature, which I was able, I finally was able to do they did a sequel to a very important feature film that won an Academy Award was called Kramer v. Kramer with Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman.

And I did the sequel, which was Kramer versus Kramer versus Godzilla. Yeah. And it didn't do as well as I had hoped. I concept. And it sent me into a tailspin, and I left the business for, a while and I went to

I went to a retreat a retreat which was the guru there was a gentleman by the name of a Baba Ram Dass boat and I was trying to find myself and one morning I was drinking my

spirulina smoothie and I noticed in Deadline Hollywood that they were thinking of getting back that there was going to be another concert We were forced into it, and there was a contract that was left dangling on the death of Ian Faith. This was not born of inspiration. I have to say, as many reunions are.

That you were contractually forced to get back together again, as is made clear in the new document. Induced. Induced. You were induced. It was an induced pregnancy. It was an induction. It was an induction. And I'm glad that you did get back together.

You brought so much joy to hundreds of people. Well, it gave us an opportunity, it did give us an opportunity to get back together again and break up again and then get back together again. I think we broke up once more since then, and now here we are. Yeah. So third time, well, the ninth time. Do we change seats at any point? No. You're actually fine there.

We've talked about that format. It's called it. I wouldn't cause a format exactly. It's more like just seats. Three mat. Okay. I was trying to put a nice gloss. on what you had said.

Okay. I want to ask you something, Nigel. Yes. I was very surprised when I saw the documentary what you've been up to. You own a shop? I do, yes. A cheese shop. Well, not just cheese.

Not just cheese. No, cheese and guitars. And it's fascinating. You see this in the film. Someone comes in and I thought you could buy cheese or buy guitars, but you can trade cheese for guitars. Yes. Or trade guitars for cheese.

Yes. It's a barter system. Like they had back in prehistoric times, you know, when there were dinosaurs, people say, oh, no. No. The dinosaurs had no dinosaurs and men did not coexist. When the people lived in the cave kind of things, they would trade things. So I say someone comes in with a nice brie, and I'll say maybe a flying V for the

break. Yeah, yeah. But we'll have to see, I've got to weigh it literally and then play the guitar. and vice versa as well. Yeah. I saw that you were doing that business and I thought sometimes you see a business and you think why didn't anyone else think of this? I didn't have that thought. Interesting. Yeah. No, it's very, it's perfect for me because I like... Have you turned a profit yet?

In what sense? Monetary. In a barter sense. No, listen, I admire him, but he lives in a world of his own. David, what have you been up to? us up to date because I don't want to spoil don't do too many spoilers but it is revealed in the documentary you've been living in Morrow Bay Moro Bay California anyone here

from Morrow Bay? No never really Toronto people often do that too oh they're all Toronto yeah clearly except for the one New Zealander that's right yeah yeah well I've been staying busy you know I

I'm a bit of a bit of a star in Morrow Bay there's not a lot of famous people there. They're all retired English musicians, all the famous ones, and I happen to be number six or seven.

But I'm having a really nice... I love it. I'm a total Californian now. And I play a little bit of music on the side. Yeah, tell us about your music career because you've managed to stay in the audio business, but in a way that surprised me. Well, listen, I've got fairly proficient

on the keyboards. And of course, all you need is about four or five keys and a computer, you know, and just pluck it out like this. And I do a lot of scores for podcasts, crime podcasts. Yeah, yeah. And it's very rewarding. Yes, I was, you also record hold music, is that correct? Yes.

Oh, yeah, yeah. The music you get when you call up, that's not just pulled out of the sky, you know. Someone has to do that. And I'm able to express sort of my, my inner, middle of the rhoda, if you will. It's not hard rock. It's not quite Dixieland. It's somewhere in between. What's in between hard rock and Dixieland?

I don't know, but you did win an award for that music. I want a holdy. I did. I did. Very proud. Very proud. That's true. And also, I know maybe you don't want to, you know, put a light on it, but you do still

play with a band. I know, I noticed. There's a bunch of blokes who I get together with, yeah, yeah. And I've really got it heavy into mariachi music. And I've been writing tunes, actually some of them are traditional tunes, but I've been translating

harder, more demonic lyrics into the Spanish. Into mariage. With the help of Maria. Maria's my living chef. And she helps me work the lyrics. And it's really fun. It's lovely. Again, something I, when I saw it, I thought,

This is not something I'd have thought of. Or if I had thought of, I might have dismissed it immediately, but incredible, and it's incredible. It feels good from the inside. I put it that way. Derek. You're pointing at me now. Yes. Passed me to you, yes.

He also said your name, so. Yeah. I thought that woke me right up. I thought the name was, yeah, the main indicator, not the pointing. But that's a bonus. Okay. You get both. You get the pointing and the name, Derek.

You've confounded me instantly. You run a shop that sells glue. No, it's not a shop. There's no profit. It is the same business as the cheese. I'm going to zing you there. Sorry, man. No, it's okay.

But here's a different situation. Yeah, mine's deliberate. Okay. People would say to me over the years. you know and not just me but bass players generally well you guys are kind of the glue you know that hold the band together because these other guys are you know up there and unglued yeah and one day I just thought glue as you don't think about glue all that often never I hardly ever think about it yeah well I did and I became

I guess you'd say fixated. Well, you wouldn't, but I'd say fixated. Yeah. And I've opened a museum of glue. It's a museum, that's right. Some museums are for profit, so I think I've redeemed myself there. But we should move on. I think I'm getting into a little bit of a conversational cul-de-sac, if you will.

Yes? No, I'm just wondering why you're here. Yeah. It's a good question. I'm doing that way myself. Gentlemen, it has to sting that the rock and roll Hall of Fame has refused to induct you. You have such a body of work. There's a lot of it of what you do.

People can debate the quality, but there's a lot of it. There's a tremendous amount of what you did. And you have to admit, Marty, it's a shock. And the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame did not just pass on them. They sort of stepped outside their lane a little bit. Yeah, I think they said, they, you know, they made a letter, they sent, and the letter came back, go fuck yourself. Unusual. It was a little harsh.

That's not a Hall of Fame language. No, no, no, no. It's just terrible, you know, it was, and they rarely send a letter like that. Very real. They have, noy, vanilla, I think, got one, but. Millie Vanillae, yeah. They got two. They got two. Very nice.

Millie and Vanilli. Yes. Right. But here's the irony. Are you pointing in me? I am pointing to you. I'm pointing right back at you. I didn't say your name.

You don't know my name. I do. It's that Spider-Man mean. A bit frightening to be in the middle of it, to be honest. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will not admit us. But in the gift shop, they sell Hello Cleveland T-shirts. It's true, yeah. It's not right.

It's not right. And I hope you're getting a taste of that. No. You're not getting a taste? No. Well, I've got to get a taste, but that's a different thing. It's a taste like burnt toast. That's a stroke symptom, I just want you to know.

No, no, no, no. Oh, you're a doctor, I suppose. Well, I watched enough television, yeah. I feel I can diagnose anyone. Where do they hide the cameras? I'm a little bit confused. They're all filming. That's a camera right there.

Each person must have one. Yeah, there's one right there. Especially the New Zealand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't trust that. Where in New Zealand are you from? I'm from Auckland. Of course.

Auckland, really? I was there, yeah. Yeah, that's a lovely town. Have you guys played Auckland? Yeah, we did a thing there. I can't remember what it was, though. These are terrific stories. No, no.

No, I don't want to embarrass you. Can you stand up, not literally, but can you, where are you? There we are. Oh, yeah. She's a bearded bloke. This is another stroke symptom. I didn't meet you there.

No. You look familiar from not meeting you there Gentlemen, let's address a very dark subject You've lost countless drummers How many, Marty, has it been? Well, according to the band, I think it's 12.

Yeah, I think it's 12. Even dozen, even dozen. And this latest film, and I'm not going to give anything away, but it begins with you looking for a new drummer. Right, yeah, yes. Why not just use a drum machine at this point? That we tried that.

It died. Lugged it in. That's true. We'd go about 10 bars under the tune. And then it went, nope, I'm out. Fizzled. Yeah. Just left this burn mark on the desk.

Incredible. All right. Well, I don't think it's giving anything away from the film, if you want. What happened to the last drummer that you had? Skippy Scuffleton. Poor, yeah, Skippy Scuffleton or Scuffie Scipleton or Skiffy Scupleton, we never could get it straight. He had some entirely different name that he got paid through. But he had a terrible allergy to something.

I thought it was the little berries inside the Maracca's that they make the seeds. I think he was allergic because he'd never used them before. And he played about half the date. And then he said, I'm feeling funny. He started sneezing and he never stopped. until it all stopped So it was pretty sad He sneed himself

Is that the actual coroner's report That he sneezed No there's a Latin term for that It's a real thing And he latins in No What's the Latin term for Sneezing yourself to death

I don't know But there is one Because it's a medical thing Well you know there's a German one Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah Yeah

There you go I was I mean so much So much to catch up on With you guys Because again, it's been, I know you've had your reunions, but 41 years since the last film. Can I ask you, why you keep putting on and taking off your glasses? I like to create different looks throughout the podcast.

Two. Yes. Yeah, I found it best, especially in an audio medium. Yes. In an audio medium, it's good to have two looks as opposed to one. No, I'm quite a dress. And you know, can I just, you asked. Have you ever thought of a.

hat. I have thought of a hat, but that would obscure the hair, which is the trademark. I don't really think about it. Well, contact lenses. Imagine taking out your contact lenses to make a point. Yeah. It's in here, Senator. That would be tough, yeah. Very difficult.

How dare you, sir? I am able to do this in an interview is whip the masts. And is that incredible? I wasn't being critical. It came across as critical. Oh, look, you're so sensitive. That's why people like you, though. Yeah. No, it's true. That's true.

That's true. You, I have to ask you, because I'm a bit of a guitar enthusiast myself. Who are you talking to now? I'm pointing to you. Okay. I've noticed that Nigel, you have no peripheral vision. None. You couldn't see a camera that's right there, and you have no idea where I am right now.

Well, I do. I could pinpoint if you gave me a compass. Has it hurt you in rock and roll to have no peripheral vision? No. No, I do have. I can see this, I can see this. So I do, I was just being cheeky. Okay, got it.

What was your question? I don't remember. You have a guitar that I absolutely adore. It's a guitar that's beautiful. It has the Union Jack on it. But if you turn the guitar over, and this is featured in the film. Which is a surprise, yeah. I don't want to give it away.

Well, you have, but go ahead. I haven't said what it is. There's a secret compartment in the guitar. I adore this guitar. And it's got to, you have to see the film. to see this guitar. It's wonderful. Yes. Is that available for purchase? Could I buy one? Or is there only one, then is it yours? They made one. Yeah. It's just mine. Okay. I'm getting the feeling you want me to give it to you, though.

I'm glad you brought that up. Nice. It's a wonderful guitar, yeah. I have many, many guitars, and that's one of the really good ones. Yeah. You did invent that, though. You did. I did. Yeah, I came up with the idea for it, and they built it for me. Some of your inventions are great. I have other inventions, yes, which have not been as successful. No. Would you get elaborate? Finger bowls for dogs. Yeah.

That was never going to happen. Well, I have this folding wine glass, you see. Because I thought if you're going on a picnic and you don't want to carry things, you know, you want to just throw everything in, the glass folded in on four sides. Yeah. So it had hinges on all the sides. Were they completely waterproof? No. So what would happen is, if you're pouring, let's say, a bourgeois,

whatever, it doesn't really matter, it could be a medoc or whatever, you know, 81, it could be a, whatever it is, chate enifted a pat. It could be any number of things. Just two more, just two more, please. Just a few more, yeah. And you pour it in, and it just would leak out the bottom. Yeah. So by the time you raise it to your lips, your crotch was soaked in wine.

Yeah. that was that one you know Marty I want to bring you back in because there are some moments in the documentary and I don't care if I'm giving anything away in the new one but I was stunned at one point the lads

I'll call you the lads because you all served bravely in the Korean War I want to say settle down I want to say I was stunned when Sir Paul McCartney enters their rehearsal space and starts jamming with them. It was, I mean, even as a viewer, as someone who's met, McCartney myself, countless times

probably more than you guys have, and spent a lot of quality time with him. I was, I mean, he's on my speed dial. We talk three times a day. But my point is it was such a stunning moment, and I was, he is the royalty of rock. He enters the room, and I'm going to say this right now, David, I didn't think you were, I didn't think you were kind to him initially. You seem a little... Well, you know, that's a two-way street. I mean, we all have this picture of Paul, and he's the cute beetle and all that.

You know, let's not go nuts here. I mean, he's just a person, you know. And he comes in, and he's throwing his weight around. I'm not going to tell you what it is. It was difficult for me. Because I'm a creative person, he's a creative person. But that doesn't mean we're going to be on the same page. We were stunned, tell you the truth,

when he came into the room and as he went through his whatever he was doing it struck me odd then he never mentioned your name I know you'd think he never brought up Conan O'Brien one time

I saw it I'll talk about that with Paul when I see you will we usually meet for Flawn in West Hollywood around this time of day He didn't mention any O'Brien I have a fear of Flawn really okay that will be expung from the record. Don't trust it.

You will not, that will be edited out. The fear of fun. We won't have word play on this podcast. But Marty, you were there when this amazing meeting of the rock gods happened and you knew to keep the cameras rolling. Well, of course. And then were you at all stunned that David was, Paul offered one hint for a bridge on the song. And David was less than gracious to Sir Paul McCartney. How did you feel about that moment?

Well, you know, as, as I, see, I put David on the same level as Paul McCartney. That's very sweet. To me, they, and from one musician, I don't take sides on this. And from one musician to another, he was basically denigrating what, what David was, what David was putting forth. Now, in all fairness, so was Nigel, and so was Derek. They both hated what he was doing. So it was kind of three against one, but I mean, I... But that's the great flaw in a democracy, isn't it?

What? I think I've jumped ahead. But trust me, you'll catch him. And Nigel, Sir Elton John, joining you guys and revealing that he's a fan and has been a fan. Yes. Well, you know, it works both ways as he says He's very sensitive chap You know, I've known him since we were kids

He's very sensitive So the thing that with Sir Paul I wasn't surprised at that Because he reacts like that sometimes With Sir Elton, two sirs, amazing You know It was just, he was so open to playing with us It was great, it was really fantastic

I thought Yeah Two sirs, no madam Yeah Nice again I'm going to end all wordplay now there'll be no more word play done this I think there's going to be one more before we go

I won't say again I don't want to spoil anything I hope you've mended fences with Elton oh yeah oh no no yeah there's some things happen and you're going to have to see this for yourself you know I meant to ask you that you know afterwards did did they ever sue was there any lawsuits No. I didn't hear anything.

No. Wouldn't he have sued you as well? Probably. Well, I've got news for you. This is a, as of an hour ago, you've all been served. You are being sued. Oh. Yeah.

And it's a figure that's shocking. Well, it won't matter much, will it? Why is that? What was that? What are they going to take? Well, apparently, you know, Sir Elton John is taking possession of your cheese and guitar shop. I've been told. I don't think so.

The people in the village where I live with my girlfriend. How come you put quotes around the girlfriend? Yeah, why did you put quotes around girlfriend? That's for me to know, isn't it? She's great. She's exactly what you've needed all along. Yes. Really, it's true.

It's a lovely girl. No, but it's a cheese shop. The people in the village love it. They wouldn't allow that to be taken away, boarded up, anything. Well, it would not happen. The town loves El. John and they're thrilled that he's taking well you've never been to the town

so you don't know that you're just reading what I know I read the local reading what you don't know is what you're doing all right well if we're gonna this is getting contentious and I'm uncomfortable and I feel a little bit like Paul McCartney sitting in with spinal tap unwelcome gentlemen

there's so many more questions I have for you one is you two fellows grew up together in Squatney I believe Squatney yeah east end of London East End of London East End I've never heard of Squatney Well it's gone

It's gone now How could it be gone It's a place on the map Because most of it's being replaced By a Tesco's Oh okay It's a huge supermarket chain Has areas that change

Or they're renamed Do you know this? Yes but when you said it was gone I just It's gone in the city It's not We can go to the street Where we were

It's not called that anymore They incorporate other things And then they have a new name Or whatever they think The pub that we used to go to The Queen's lips Yeah Not that it's gone

Now it's an apple store. Yeah, it's just progress of a sort of change. It was a working class neighborhood. Yeah, lovely. Has there any, if you go to Liverpool, you will see as little statues of the Beatles everywhere you go. Is it like that if you go to Squatney? I mean, you are heroes in Squatney.

Is there any memorial? And Marty, do you think there should be in Squatney? Well, of course there should be. But as they say, they've changed this place so much. I don't know that the young people of today would even know those, what those statues represented. I don't think I would know. If you saw a statue to yourself, you wouldn't recognize that statue.

Have you ever seen the statue of Lucille Ball in a hometown? Yes. You've seen that, right? Yeah. We don't want that. No, no. Well, they wouldn't put a statue of Lucille Ball there. They'd put a statue of you guys.

They'd put a statue of Lucille Ball before they'd put one of us. Yeah. I think that's a fair point. Yeah. Derek. Yes. this what a journey for you to go from being this iconic rock star to having a glue museum a non-for-profit glue museum and when you got the call that this was happening you were getting back together with the band explain your emotional roller coaster no there's so much a roller coaster is a merry ground so still a wheel but turning in a different dimension turning in a horizontal direction as opposed to a vertical direction okay yeah all right okay

That's a good differentiation to make. You know, I didn't just have the Gloom Museum. I was doing some telework and commercials and adverts, things like that. But you also played with the symphony orchestra. I did some of that, yeah. But I was promoting a crypto product called broigle coin. Broigle coin, yeah. But I was happy to join the lads.

In theory. In theory, yeah. Yeah. It's been bumpy since. It's been a long time. It's 15 years since we spoke. Yeah. In between. But I kind of like the bumps. What is that noise? Please, they're doing other podcasts.

Very popular ones all around us. Huge rock bands. Gentlemen, you, the mind boggles at the journeys that you have taken in rock and roll. Financially, how are you doing? Oh, I get by, you know. My friend, Maria, I mentioned her before, my living chef, and a significant other. She does marvellously well on the catering circuit in the Central Coast. Okay.

And so I don't have to worry about a thing, really. I do all these other musical things. They pay some of the rent and all this. And like I say, I enjoy a certain bit of stardom. Is Maria new to you? Because she wasn't there when I first visited you. Oh, on and off. On and off for six or seven years, yeah.

Oh. You know, you might meet her one day. First I'm hearing about it. Yeah. No, I think financially, you know, the shop seriously does get by, the cheese shop. We do make enough. We have a small house just outside the village. And I'll get some residuals, as you'd call them here.

Royalties and things for music that we do. So I still get, and I play in a pub. I'm playing in a pub. the group which is uh that doesn't pay at all actually well this i guess the point i'm making and i i don't want to tread on a sensitive area or be in any way um cruel or rude um but i'm just going to go for this uh you guys are in an iconic rock band if you look at other rock bands from your era i mean rolling stones uh nabil i mean anyone involved in those groups is fantastically rich we're talking about billionaires billionaires in some cases yeah yeah

Paul Revee and the Raiders Huge rolling in it Yeah No no no no no excuse me There are lots of people that didn't make a lot of money Lots of people most people didn't make a lot of money The famous ones as the ones you mentioned obviously did But there are lots and lots of people hundreds of bands who played

That were famous for a minute or two Nothing, they have nothing Yeah Freddie and the Dreamers For example Again I have the facts on my fingertips Freddy the Dreamers are in the Forbes 500 last year No, you don't.

Yes, hugely, hugely successful. Can't make fun of Freddy and the Dreymas anymore. No. Or Jerry and the Pacebeckers. I have to be, I have to be honest with you. That's one of the reasons I rejoined the band with his financial difficulties. Thank you for being honest. Thank you for noticing it.

I had been, as I told you, promoting this cryptocurrency. Yes, yes. And they paid me in cryptocurrency. Yeah. When they went under, I went under. So you have less than nothing. I'm working my way back to nothing. You also, Derek, I remember, we didn't talk about it,

but I think you also tried to start an amusement park, a Tapp land, like Dollywood. Didn't you try to get them to make an amusement park themed park based on TAP? I thought about it. No, you did think about it because you asked us the money. to us. Well, yeah,

and we sent you money. We sent you money. You sent him money. Yes. You sent him money? And where did this money go? Exactly. When you got the money from Nigel,

what did you do with the money? Built the glue museum. They don't grow on trees, you know. Well, rubber trees. Yeah, rubber tree actually comes from the tree. It's a terrible example. What's the difference between glue,

and since I'm sitting with an expert. Yeah. Between glue and mucilage. Mucilage is got animal fat Ah, very good What about epoxy Now some people think I'm taking us into a very dry area

But you gotta wait for it to dry Yeah Okay, that's number That is it That is it I'm not having any more work No, don't applaud that We're not having it

What do you mean Some people think I just think there's probably A discerning person in the audience Epoxy which I use On a daily basis by the way. This is not an advert.

Completely different animal than what he does. Completely different thing. It's a scientific thing that has no organic, I see, elements at all. What do you mean you use it on a daily basis? What do you do with it on a daily basis? Oh, what are you? Iron sides or something? What is this?

Iron sides. Luddie, how is that? Oh, I'm a detective. I'm going to find out what he's doing. What is that all about? What was the last time you watch television? I'm just curious. I don't have a television.

I don't have a television. Well, I have to tell you, no one's referenced Iron Sides, the TV show starring Raymond Burr, in over 47 years. And that's my fault. Yeah. Well, okay. Look. I liked it when it was out in the 70s.

We'd get them after you had to hear. What was the name of the bloke that pushed him around? That's all I recall is there was something. Again, I love, I'm getting into some areas I didn't think would get into. Who pushed Iron Sides around on the original series? And that's something for... If one of you can answer that, well, just keep it to yourself, my name, basically. Well, did you have, you've now come back together again,

and I know there's some difficulties that are well discussed and well chronicled in the documentary. Do you feel enthusiastic about the future of TAP? Oh, that's two different things. and tap the future of tap yes no no i see what happens to you guys in this world play right there okay listen it's not one opinion and it's also it's individual opinions on that as well you know well are you enthusiastic about the future of tap i'm positive generally and think it might be possible to regroup again yeah it's possible wide open listen whatever works possible

okay wow that's a very this is a nice end if you you you you're Izzy-outsy. Yeah. Depending on maybe your financial... Well, depending on whether we call him is the thing.

Well, if we called him inzi-outsy. And if you did... And if you did reunite, do you think there's another film there? Go to hell. That's as good a place to end as any. Gentlemen,

I'll say it again. I saw the first film in 1984 to introduce me to you and your work and it changed my life in many ways. I don't say this. Often. Wait a minute. I say it just about every time. Constantly. It's an honor to have you here. I mean, I've said it to complete nobody's in the business. It's a formality more than anything else. But a complete, an utter honor to have you here. This is a dream. And I thank you all very much. The dream come true is what you mean. Thank all of you. It's a dream come true. Yeah, I'm sorry, because they're bad dreams. You're right. All right. Spinal tap. Marty DeBergie. Thank you guys.

so much. And Spinal Tap 2. The End continues is in theater September 12th and their new book A Fine Line Between Clever and Stupid No, no, no, no. A fine line between stupid and clever. Then whoever wrote this

is just stupid. Yeah. But reading it was clever. That's available September 9th and I'm in for all things tap as I think our audiences and many people listening. Spinal Tap, ladies and gentlemen, Marty DeBergey.

Thank you. That was great. Thank you so much for including us in that. Yeah. That was really sweet of you. I was a real moment for us. I was looking for a moment when one of your obsessions would come up in the conversation. Oh, yeah.

You know what I mean? But it didn't. It didn't happen. That's all right. Channing Tatum never came up. EBS. I told you guys jump in at any time. Did I not say that beforehand?

You did. Okay. Then shut up. I'm not even complaining. I know. I just wanted to go after you because it's fun. Yeah, go after him. That was really fun.

That was lovely to talk to those guys. And, I mean, saw them years ago and to finally meet them. And altogether, it was just one of those pinch me moments. Yep. Yeah. Big time. Okay. That's an awkward silence.

Yep. Sorry, a little sincerity and everyone's like, what the fuck was that? We don't know what to do with it. How is that funny? we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop. There's no other shoe. No, nothing. I just had a really lovely moment.

You can both shut up now. Oh, that's just sincerity. We don't know what that looks like. I mean, that's what that is? Yeah, you look very attractive. Guys, I do have the glasses on sometimes and I take them off sometimes. And I think I'm a fidgety person, but I like the movement. I like the action.

Nobody was asking about it. Well, they asked me about it. I know, but you do that. I'll do it again. Huh? Yeah. Look at that guy. Oh, oh.

Oh, yeah, I can't see now. I'm going to read. What did you say? What are you doing? You can't hear you when his glasses are off. Yeah, take your glasses off. What a prick. Oh, what's going on?

Well, hey, guys, this is nice. Does he know? Oh, what are you guys talking about? You're great. You like that bit? That was fun. Guy who can't hear when his glasses are off? Yeah, I was doing the effects in your head and stuff, too.

Okay, let's do it again. Yeah, okay. Ha-ha, this is fun. Oh, man, I want to quit so bad. I want to quit so bad. I love how bad. My God, if I just walk out of here, I love this job. So I go, oh, when I put my glasses back on?

I hired you as an assistant. You do sound effects. You do voices. You do tricks. I know. You had no idea. Hey, Conan O'Brien needs a friend. It's brought to you by Airbnb.

Yeah. Hello and welcome to the very first Conan O'Brien Airbnb original experience. This is our first time. Yeah. Very exciting. For our. Audio listeners were at the Serious X-M garage here in Los Angeles, and we are having a blast,

and whoever wrote that put an exclamation point at the end, which makes me think it was Blay. Yes. Yes, guilty. Yeah, yeah. You would talk that way at a funeral. Isn't this awesome? No one expected you'd die that young.

This is a very special event. This is really fun. Everyone here today is getting custom rock and roll merch. Yeah. And Blay, what else do they get in? Well, everybody got to say how they feel about being Conan O'Brien's friend, which is a first for our podcast. As well as, after the recording is done, stick around because we've got the U.S. Air Guitar Association is here. They're the NFL of Air Guitar.

You're going to compete for fame and glory. see a showcase of Air Guitar All-Stars in the first ever Team Coco Air Guitar Championship, which is very exciting. Yeah, there's some cool signed stuff you can. It's all signed by Blay, though, just so you know. Yeah.

And the stuff is pieces of asbestos from a decommissioned battleship. Actually, enjoy that asbestos. No, we have some great stuff for you, a U.S. Air Guitar Championship. What happened to our podcast? What happened? I ascended the very highest heights of show business.

Stick around for our Air Guitar Championship. It's fun. People are going to have a good time. How do you guys like our original Airbnb experience? How great is Spinal Tap? Do you have a good time? Everyone have a good time. I want to just big thanks to everyone who came out to our Team Coco,

Airbnb experience, and thank you to Airbnb for making this happen. They've been terrific partners. And I'm also a satisfied Airbnb customer. And I believe now is the part of the show. We're going to introduce your real assistant. Well, I shouldn't say that. My true assistant, okay. That's not cool.

The hammer of Thor sits beside me. This is you are forged in Asgard. You are the original immortal weapon, the Sonam of Sessian. When you say Conan's assistant, it's Sona. That is Sona's assistant. Conan's assistant is Sona. Sona is the assistant to Conan. It's just one of those universal truths.

But Sona, of course, went on to bigger and better things. She's now on a giant billboard in Times Square. She's got her own book. She drives around in a Bentley. Did you know that Sona has a Bentley? Not me alone. Yeah, and her license plate says, suck it. Yes.

It would. Yeah, it would. You would get that. I would. But she's in the stratosphere. I need someone who actually can show me how to use my apps. And these days, that man is, where is he? David Hopping.

Are you here? David hopping. David, join us. All right. Right here. Sit or stand? David, your current obsession, why don't you have a seat? Okay.

It's okay. Just don't get comfortable. I'm going to make you leave. Yeah, that's great. It looks like you're being punished. Yeah. This is like a COVID protocol. Okay.

David. Yes. You're obsessed lately with the summer I turn pretty, right? Son and I both are. What's going on with that? Because every time I will call you about something important, like there's a small fire in my kitchen. How do I contact the fire department and you say, are you watching the summer I turn

pretty? Yeah, because it comes out every Wednesday. Are you, which one, are you team Brenda or Jojo? What is it? Oh, I don't with you. I don't. I don't know the names of the people. How is it?

I think we're all Team Conrad. Okay. Yeah. There's our homies in the back. In the back. Yeah. No, Sona and I text about this show. We do.

It's very important. Anytime there's like a Netflix show or like a show made for like 16 year old girls, I know I can rely on Sona to watch it as well. Anything with like hot 20-something year old is just like doing it, we'll watch it. At what point, I mean. I have this question. At what point is it creepy that you're watching that stuff and getting excited? excited about it. If I were to admit that I love watching hot 20-year-olds go at it, I'm immediately arrested and rightfully so. What about you? When has it become creepy? I don't know, probably

now. Is that weird? Like, as I was saying it, I was like, I mean, they're not, it's not great for us. It's not a good love. We're helping the business. You know what? You're welcome. This is how you help me the most is that I bring you in to ask you about various things and you tell me, David, what's going on in the youth culture, what's happening in America, because you're from the heartland, you're still very innocent, you're very naive. He is. He grew up, not near a cornfield, he grew up in and amongst corn. Corned by, yeah. Corn grew up around him. And you are always telling me, this is what people are watching now. I'm Team Conrad. I don't know what's happening. And so I use you to keep me aware of what's happening. Job security. Yeah. And how to use my

apps. Yeah. All right. What are we doing here, Dave? You're going to take some questions from the audience and then give them answers. Yeah. So raise your hand. No, we're just taking questions, but no answers.

Raise your hand if you have a question. David, I can hear your shoes. It's awkward. Sorry. Hi, I'm Alon. I'm very nervous right now. Don't be nervous. This is a safe space.

We're all friends. I might attack you at any moment. I've also hired people to attack you from behind. Don't be nervous. Seriously, we're just people, but I'm exceptionally talented. Go ahead. I'm one of those people. It's like, oh, my God, you met him.

What did you say? And there's a lot of, what's that? Do you want to stand? This was fine. God damn. Blay, I love you. I love you. We love you.

We know, we know you. Oh, and this doesn't work. That's great. Okay. I now have this mic, and I can stand. What's your name again? Alon. O'on.

Alon. Alon. Ilan. O'on. Like, O'on came Alon. You were right to be nervous. All right. I'm kidding.

I'm totally kidding. All right, Joe. How are you? Fornane, I was wondering, I started watching you when I was 12. So this was always a dream of mine. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Are there guests who you still get nervous to talk to?

I wouldn't say I get nervous. That would be the wrong word. I get focused. I get very focused. I think this has been. thousands and thousands of hours, and I've talked to so many people, there's no nervous anymore, but there is a moment before I go out where I look at, I think about what I'm going to talk about, and I get, with certain people, and I get very focused. So you don't have to fight through

anything? I don't think I have to fight through anything anymore. And this sounds like a joke, But I just think I've been through so much that at this point, it's hard to summon that. That was probably more in my earlier life in my 20s and early 30s. But at this point, I think all of my dignity has been shredded. And I'm just, I don't know, I, there's a, it is, I'm being truthful. I think there's a, okay, let's see what happens. Does anything make you nervous? Anything else?

What do you mean? Am I capable of feeling nervous? Like the guy who scales... Do you have feelings? Are you human? Is it like free solo? Do I not have the part of my brain? Yeah.

I fear, yeah, I would fear... There are plenty of things I would fear, but not getting up in front of people. Yeah, I think making a terrible financial decision would frighten me. Because I think I'd be blamed and mocked, you know? I thought you were going to say something about your, like, family. No, God, no. You can always get another family. Hey, nice to meet you.

and good question. Yes. Alon. Alon. I'm not doing this on purpose. I have a new favorite podcast now. I deserve that. Whose alarm is going off?

I think it's someone's sincerity alarm. Did you hear a beeping sound? No. Nope. Did you hear it? Anyone? Oh my God. I think I'm very ill.

Wow. Yes. How can I help you, sir? So I have less of a question, more of a quick request. I have my instant camera on me. Could I take a picture with the gang? Yeah, of course.

Can I calm down now? Is that good? Yeah, I like your late show with Stephen Colbacher. You can have to change a shirt. No, seriously. Good friend, Stephen, and I'm glad you're out representing. Good man. So let's get down here and let's take this picture.

Do we have to stand up? Why don't you lie down? There you go. Wow. This is all going to be requests now. No one's going to ask a question anymore. Conan, I'm type O positive. Can I have a pancreas?

Okay. We're going to go back to questions. gentlemen yes you brought your own microphone very good I'm gonna help you I would love it if people brought their own microphones I know that was our one request go ahead sir so I was wondering outside of this is Spinal Tap what's your favorite Christopher guest movie

oh wow I'm gonna say waiting for Guffman hell yeah yeah I love waiting for Guffman I mean I can just watch it endlessly he's a genius level funny and so I'm delighted by so much of his work So a follow-up call coded. No, you guys are getting out of hand. Last guy had a question but turned into a photo op.

You took one question and turned into two. I don't like the way this is going. Go ahead, sir. So when you saw This Is Spinal Tap in 1984, was that like, so for me watching The Simpsons and Lady in the early 90s, that was my first look at satire and parody ever? Yes, yeah. So for you, can you think of anything? Because Monty Python was a bit more sketch comedy and less satire and parody in a direct sense.

Yep. Do you think this is Spinal Tap was like help mold you into wanting to do satire? Definitely. I mean, there's nobody from my era who wasn't influenced by that film. I believe that there's a period of your life that only happens once when music, comedy, all the things that are important to you can hit you in a very pure, unadulterated way. And then a window closes. It doesn't close completely, but there's a period in your life.

and it's like 15, 16, 17, and for me, that was SCTV, definitely Monty Python, you know, Clu So Films, Select Ones with Peter Sellers. There were just things that were moments on Saturday Night Live. There were things that just hit me directly mainlined into my brainstem. And 1984, I'm working for this College Human magazine. I've sworn myself. I remember saying I don't care if I totally never make a penny

if it never goes anywhere I'm going to devote myself to comedy I recently cleaned out my parents' house and I found all these comedy ideas I was writing when I was like 19, 20 and they're not good and at the bottom of one page I was writing them on a typewriter

and no one was even computers existed at the time so I don't know I'm still writing things on a typewriter but I in ink at the bottom I had reviewed my work and said please comedy gods help me to do better than this crap I mean I was so hard on myself and so and that's the age I am when I go to this theater in like Alston Massachusetts and see yeah all right you are being arrested you look amazing by the way you look lovely but yeah I I saw this a spinal tap and you you I think a lot of us had the same feeling, which is this is a way of being funny that was so ahead of its time. And if you think about the office and Parks and Rec and all these shows that do reportage kind of mockumentary style, to me, it really starts with. I know the Ruttles precedes that, but the real pure dose is Spinal Tap.

So it meant everything to me. Yeah. Great question. Take some more questions here, and David will get to. He's just taking his time, that's all. He got the mic, but he's my husband, so he gave it to me. Oh, that's such a nice. I think he might have an actual question, but this is so awkward.

No, no, no, don't worry about it. It's more of a, can I give you a gift or something? I'm an illustrator, and I drew a picture of you. Oh, my God. Bring it on up. That's so nice. Come on up. Check it out.

That's so cool. That's so nice. I can't show everyone the whole thing. Because I think I might get in trouble with work if I show you the whole thing. Oh, I shouldn't. Will I get you in trouble? Will we edit this out? You can show it and edit it out.

You can show that. You just yell things. Take off your pants. Put a stapler in your ass. What? Oh, I see what this is. I can show this. That's so great.

This is me looking at, I mean, we may have to. I think it's been made public, actually. Okay, good. Yes, but this is the character I'm going to play in Toy Story 5, whose name's Smarty Pants. That's right. I love that. And who do you work for?

Disney Pixar. I see. Well, you're not only fired, but they're going to pursue you the rest of your life. I hope none of them like you. Do you work up at the Bay Area? No, no, Glendale, but I do visit Emeryville sometimes. Okay, so I'm working on the Toy Story Story. I have a character in it, which is one of the coolest things I've been a part of.

And I got to go up to the Pixar Studios in the Bay Area, and they showed me all the offices and all these iconic things. And it was like Willie Wonka saying, do you want to see my chocolate factory? It was really fun. I've seen the offices before, too, just once, and it was kind of mind-blowing. Yeah. Well, you guys are so talented. Thank you.

Did you actually make this yourself? So I work on product. So I work on things like I drew smarty pants for product But it doesn't look as like nice It's like for kids So they really want it That's all right That's all right

You're doing well I love it when Creative talented people Just find a way to make their mark On the world That's really impressive to me It's good to be here Because I was in legal for nine years before this

And it's nice to me I escaped hell I escaped hell Yes And I'm not putting down lawyers But you're terrible people Sorry if I'm And what is your husband's name

Jonathan John John You forgot his name for a second, didn't you? This marriage is in terrible trouble. He surrendered the microphone out of fear. Are you a, is he a creative person as well? He likes to write poems. Oh, that's lovely.

Recite. Wait a minute. Recite. You stand up and say, Recite it! I can say he did spoken word at our wedding and I was mortified. Oh, oh.

Wait, but wait a minute. Wow. I'm going to stick up for him. I think, A, that's lovely that you would do that. That guy's got, I mean, that's very cool. Yeah, it is. I'm, you know what? I wanted someone to do spoken word at my wedding, and someone did.

It was just a, it turned out it was just a drunken diatribe. About the many ways I've fucked people over in life by my new wife. Lovely to meet you. Thank you so much for this. And give my best to the gang at Pixar. You're really talented. So cool. What's that?

Why are you yelling now? Oh, wait, I'm sorry, that was his latest poem. Very cool. Now I'm just cruising around like a creep. Hey, how are you? Hello, how are you? You scared of me now, right? Love the hair.

Fantagal. Anybody else? I can just go to you and have a question. Yes, how are you, sir? What do you have? Just shout it out. Okay, thank you. So first I want to say thank you very much.

I'm going to get behind you in case you proved to be dangerous. You're dressed like a Batman villain I love it Two faces here No stand up sir Show everyone your outfit Man you dressed up for this Good for you

Look at that Very nice What is your name Christopher? Christopher Can you use the mic on him Real quick Oh there you go

Hold on watch this I'll do it I've watched game shows What's your name again sir My name is Christopher Christopher nice to meet you Nice to meet you I'm moving a microphone between us

So this conversation will be staccato Is that okay with you? That is very okay with me Okay where did you get the outfit H&M. Okay. Terrific. A wonderful company. But not a sponsor. They can go to hell. What's your question, sir?

So my question is, what do you use for your hair, and when can we expect a hair care line from you? You know what? Okay. This is a great question. This is a terrific question because my manager, Gavin Pallone, a true animal, who I've been with since like 1992, he's always wanting me to be involved with some kind of product. He says there's a lot of money in that stuff, man. And I'll say that's not me, I don't do that. But then we did come up with an idea a while ago, and we just haven't done it, which is a pomade. A pomade, where's my illustrator friend?

There we go. A pomade, but, like, it's got that cool kind of 1930s. It comes in that tin, and it's got, like, a cool logo, and it's the Conan pomade. And I'm telling you, it would be the goop of the modern era. Dude, do you... It's not... I was just referencing the company, but it would be, you know, because that's done great for Gwyneth.

I mean, she drives around in nine Bentley's strapped together that all say suck it. Which you can't have more than one license plate that says the same thing, but she got around it because she's Gwyneth. I think a pomade. I think a pomade. And a couple of pomades. What do you think? I'll buy it right now. What's that?

Say again? If you have it, I'll buy it right now. Well, you seem like a sap. I'll buy anything. I'm going to have. somehow make this happen. A Conan pomade, and I'll donate all the... Well, no, I'm not going to say that.

That's just stupid. I mean, what if it really blows up? I'll say this. If it doesn't do well, I'll donate the proceeds to a good cause. If it does really well, I'm buying an island somewhere, okay? And I'm just going to go there and be a total freak. All right, so yeah. What's that?

I said, conade. And then I got really embarrassed. I did that. I've never known you to be embarrassed about anything you've said. I know, because I said it so quietly and no one heard it. And I was like, I got away with it. And then you turned around to me and asked me. No, I sense that you were in danger.

Yeah. I'm like a T-Rex that sees movement. If someone slightly misspeaks, I can see for 900 miles. That's true. Yeah, I'm like this pomade idea. I'm telling you, it could have like a cool logo that looks like it's like kind of from the 20s. And it's, what's that? Outline of my hair.

But you know what I mean? It needs just the right font. I've got to get the right mixture of different sports. spices and oils. I want it to be something you can also eat if you're hungry. I want to put a little protein in it, so there's a little bit of cow collagen in there.

You can just put it in your hair, but then go like, I'm feeling tired. I want there to be little tiny pieces of bacon inside. This is the cream goes in your hair. Yeah. Okay. Duh. What's with dummy over here? I love this. I think this is a fantastic idea. What's your name? I just like wandering around,

but use the mic it's good because this is all going to end up on the podcast hi how are you nice to see you really delighted i saw you ladies backstage don't know how you got back there it frightened me yes go ahead i was just letting you schmooves which totally cool you're like a wing like a wingman that's very cool you're like oh connor's talking to these ladies up front i better give him his space so that he can cheat on his wife no how dare you turn against lisa like that. No, absolutely not. Anyway, drinks later?

I also had another movie question. Yep. And it's probably open-ended, but you're obviously, like, the creator of your universe and going in... What are you talking about? Do not give him any ideas. With everyone.

The creator of my universe? I'm looking at the people out here so that they feel included. It's the guy that high-fived me. I don't do well with them. I don't get a good connection. It's not you. Your elbow?

Look at the elbow? Look at the elbow? Yeah? If he wants the elbow. Okay, sir, I'm sorry. I will take your question in one second. You had a question about me creating the universe and then this guy... Go ahead.

So I will teach you how to give a perfect high five every time. But I don't like doing them. Then I will not teach you how to give a perfect high... Just teach me so I know how to do it if I need to do it. Go ahead. I'm assuming you're right-handed. Yes, I am, sir. What a dick.

What a dick. I'm being mansplained, and I'm a man. All right. You look at my elbow. Yeah. And I'm going to look at your elbow. Yeah. Yeah.

On the three, we got one, two, three. Yeah. Yours was much stronger than mine, and it pulled my elbow out of my socket. My shoulder, I'm bleeding into my shirt. I'm going to do that. I'm going to start. But you know what? A lot of people...

You're doing it hard on purpose. What are you? What? Oh, you have your own podcast going on over here? There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people. of people on the street

and this is that gets me sometimes people are maybe 30 yards away and they'll be like cut it! And they stand there like the fucking statue of liberty and click, you know what I mean? And then it's they've been eating a sloppy Joe they haven't watched their hands. It's a mess. Sir, what's your

name? Hypes. Okay. Hipes. Oh, you're the air guitar guy. I could tell there was something about you that caused me an existential dread. Well, best of luck. to you. Your parents must be thrilled. Let's shake it out. Thank you so much. Nice to meet you, sir.

Well, you're in for a treat with Hipes. Hikes, the master of air guitar. I'm so sorry. Your name again? You know, when Hipes takes over, I mean, he literally smashed through the window. There's a reason they put him behind that salad guard. It's totally fine. But it's your movie with Rose Byrne.

Yes, yeah. Yeah. If I had legs, I'd kick you. Yeah, and again, it's very open-ended, but like, you obviously are you, you know? You said it like there's nothing that can be done. Tragically, you are you, and this is a condition from which no one recovers. But it's just that shift, right? Like, obviously you've acted all that.

But even when I saw the trailer, I was like, oh, wow, this is something totally different. Yeah. And again, open on a question. Well, there is no question there. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I think I know what you're getting at, which is talk about that thing that you did. I'm thrilled because I got.

got a, it's an A24 film and I love their, I mean, I love everything A24 does. I get a call to an A24 film. The director wants to show you a script that she's written. Her name's Mary Bronstein. I meet with her. She's got such a cool vision. She writes the script that floors me. And then Rose Byrne is cast and all my scenes are opposite Rose.

And I, like anyone who's sentient, adores Rose Byrne, I just adore her. I just think she's amazing. and so I do this I took it really seriously and Rose gives this insane performance Who here has seen it? Have you seen it Sona? You haven't seen it? No. Who has, I think, David, you saw it and Rose, right?

Here, you should have a microphone too. Oh, cool, David saw it. That's cool. Yeah, because I took that's nice for you. Yeah, I'm happy for you. No, Rose is incredible in it. It's just insane and David was with me during the shooting of it because that's what a real assistant does. He comes with you

And it was a really difficult time, and you were... You never shot movies when I worked for you, so that's on you, bro. Okay, I guess it is. I guess it is. It's my fault. Yeah, and he went to Pixar with you, too, didn't he? Yeah, we had so many... I mean...

You know, it's great? My career has just blossomed into this wonderful thing, and Sona stepped off the boat. Sona was on a boat that went to Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Now we've hit the Caribbean, and just beforehand, she stepped off. I know. Oh, my God. Screwed up, Sona. Anyway, it's really fun.

It was a great experience. I really think the movie is fantastic, and I credit completely. I mean, it's Mary Bronstein, it's Rose Byrne, ASAP Rocky. I'm in there, too, but I give it up totally for them. I just was, so I love being a part of that, and I'm excited to hear what people think when it comes out. I'm really excited to see you in, like, in that medium space, you know what I mean? Yeah, not so shrill and needy. Words created by other people.

He just seems so mean and unapologetically mean. Yeah, it's funny. I guess I'm a great actor. I pretended and was able to act as if I have a mean part of me. And it was just a complete transformation. Unbelievable. No one can believe. But what I did is I read about people being mean and cruel.

And I tried to imagine what that was like. I don't like you. don't like you I think that is our show this was you know I'll say this this is this was just fun

like so many of the things we get to do in this medium this was just complete fun this is not work this is play and so grateful that we got to do this really amazing and thank you you guys made this

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