Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Summer S’mores with Conan and the Chill Chums Season 4 Episode 1

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

On the first Summer S’mores of the season, Conan prepares for a trip to the mythical land of Altadena. ...

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Here we are with Summer S'mores 2024. This has become quite the tradition now. How did it all start, Summer S'mores? I forget. We were doing the first year in studio at the Earwolf Studios, but I think it was just based off a joke where we were trying to get you be more chill, like Sona and me, right? And you.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It all starts to unravel the minute you pick it apart. But then it became, we got into a big argument about s'mores. Yes. And I took the position, which scandalized Sona at the time, that s'mores are a treat
Starting point is 00:01:41 that people think they're supposed to enjoy, but a lot of people really don't. And so- I didn't know people didn't like them. Well, I know. We, you were, you made a fool of yourself. No, and there are people that like them, but I was surprised.
Starting point is 00:01:56 There was one of the first times, Matt, that you agreed with me. That's what I was just gonna say. And it really was when I think we grew a lot closer. It's a very dry treat. That's when we moved in together. Yeah, we shared an apartment without driving each other crazy. But it was, it's a very dry treat.
Starting point is 00:02:13 It's not particularly, I think, people think they're supposed to like it. Yay, s'mores, but a lot of people don't. So anyway, we took down s'mores, and then a lot of fans called in and agreed with me, and I felt empowered, and I felt seen for the first time. Oh, did you? Yeah, really seen.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Oh, I'm so happy for you that you felt seen. I finally felt seen. I think it brings joy, and you don't like things that bring joy. There you go, that's very good. So we started doing this series and started taking them outside, which was fun, that bring joy. There you go, that's very good. So we started doing this series and started taking them outside, which was fun.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And then we thought every year we wanna elevate it because the fans seem to really enjoy this. It's a summer treat, they just do. And we've got to do, this is what Adam Sacks calls fan service. He's like, well, we should do some fan service. And I'm like, hey, Mr. Corporate Ladder, can't you just say, why don't we try to make people
Starting point is 00:03:07 that like our show happy? And he's like, it's called fan service at business school. That's what they taught us. We're servicing the fans. Yeah. OK, take it easy. Digitally, we're servicing them. Get it?
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm trying not to. We're blowing everyone digitally. I see. Yeah. It's a sexual thing. We're blowing everyone digitally. I see. It's a sexual thing. We're servicing the fans. Got it. Blowing them. Okay. So, we wanted to elevate it, which we just failed to do.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It'd be nice to break even again. It'd be nice. But we thought we'd go someplace. We were trying to think of where to go. And then Sona kind of threw down the gauntlet because I remember sometimes about how far away she lives, which is in Altadena? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Altadena. Yeah. And I'm still, it's not on a lot of maps. Like if you go on Google Maps, they don't show Altadena. There's just a blurred area. Or even if you just Google Altadena, it doesn't come up. Yeah, no, but I looked at a map on-
Starting point is 00:04:08 Where do I live? I looked at a map of the Greater Los Angeles area, and as it got over towards Altadena, it got blurry, and then there were just drawings of sea monsters. Because a lot of, you know, early sailors just didn't know what was over there, so they drew sea monsters. A lot of people just think now it's what was over there. So they drew sea monsters.
Starting point is 00:04:25 A lot of people just think now it's in Westeros. Yeah. Yeah. It is featured, Altadena is featured in the last season of Game of Thrones. You know, there's different kind of cool castles that come folding out and come rising up, those cool, and then there's Altadena,
Starting point is 00:04:40 which is just one gear spinning on its own. Broken team. It's broken. But anyway, you said let's go to Altadena. So I thought, you know what? I'm going to shut up. Enough of my jokes about, you know, okay, I'm over on the West side
Starting point is 00:04:57 and I have to go to Altadena. That's not cool. How about embrace this? This is a fun thing. So I got my shots. Can I ask a question? Yeah. When you get to Altadena,
Starting point is 00:05:08 you're not gonna make any jokes then? I don't think so. Okay. You know what? I'm gonna say something. Okay. I'm gonna say something. I know me.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. And I'm not the kind of guy to take a bit and just drive it into the ground. Okay. Not only will you not make any jokes, they won't probably be the same ones you're making right now. Probably not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Probably not. Because we definitely have not already recorded this. No, no. So you won't probably be the same ones you're making right now. Probably not. Probably not. Because we definitely have not already recorded this. No, no, so you won't make any jokes. And I can tell you for a fact that... No, no, no, no. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I have no intention of doing those cheap, oh, I got my passport, you know, I changed my currency, like, that stuff, that stuff, and a sixth, a six-year-old could make those jokes.
Starting point is 00:05:44 A child. A child, and so, a six year old could make those jokes. A child. A child. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, no, I won't do that. And also I'll embrace that it's a rich, vibrant community. It is. Is there like a playhouse or a museum there? What?
Starting point is 00:05:55 What do you mean? Like a, yes. Is there a schoolhouse? There's things, there's things. There's things? There's everybody, we have all the things that other places have. When did you become a guy in a David Mamet play?
Starting point is 00:06:04 There's things, there's things. When did you become a guy in a David Mamet play? This thing, this thing. We had the normal community. It's got everything and also- Well, just say one thing that it has. You can't keep saying normal community and there are things. We have a store.
Starting point is 00:06:15 We have a store. A general store? Do you have dry goods? We have a place where you can get food. We have a place- It's called a refrigerator. You can go there and you can get things that you need. There's a place you can go.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yes. Okay, well, you just answered all my questions. There's a cultural center, there are museums. I'm sure there's a library. There has to be, legally. There's definitely a library. The Alta Dena Library is actually a pretty cool library. Have you been there?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah, I've been there. Do you know your Pony Express writer? Did anybody get that? I did. He did. Okay. Yeah, I've been there. Do you know your Pony Express writer? Did anybody get that? I did. He did. Yeah, he did. What do you mean, like male? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Oh God. Well listen. I really. Why have I joined in on this? I don't even know. You live like 15 minutes away from me, Matt. I know, but he has a point. You're 15 minutes out there, farther though.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh my God. I'm just, you know what? It's a lovely community. There's horses. There's a lot of like people who have farms. Have you seen the original Wonder Woman, the first movie? You know that way in her- You know I haven't. On her island, you can't see it
Starting point is 00:07:14 and then you go through some fog and then you just peer in and then suddenly there's this amazing island. It's like literally like six miles off of New Jersey. Oh, the recent one. Yeah, the one that came out- Oh, I thought you meant there was like a movie that came out in like 1973. The first Gal Gadot.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Oh yeah, yeah. What I'm talking about is I think that's a little bit Altadena, which is it's close to Pasadena, but very far away in other ways. It's like Brigadoon or Atlantis or something. It's a little bit mythical. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It's a lovely town. It's a great place to live. And yeah, you guys are just jealous. No, I'm, oh, anyway. Well, listen, we're going to go to Altadena. And I am looking forward to it. Is there anything that you would advise me to bring along in preparation for this trek?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Bear spray. What? No. Do you have bears in the area? There are bears. But they don't like, no, they do. They'll come if you're there. There's a lot of coyotes.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh, fans. Yeah. You said they'll come if you're there. Yeah, they're online. They'll probably hear about this. No, they don't get, I mean, they're not like scared of people really. They like go through people's trash a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:19 We have a lot of coyotes. I wonder if we'll see you here tonight. I'm gonna have a lot of peacocks. You know what I'm gonna say? I am, I do fear a bear. I just don't know why I don't fear a coyote. Even if there's a bunch of them, I think I would just charge them and start swinging. I'd think like, they're just dogs.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I'd start swinging away at them. You think you can fight a pack of coyotes? I think I could, actually. Amanda just saved a dog's life from two coyotes three days ago. A little dog was running down the street. Oh, I thought they were blackmailing the dog. She intervened and called the authorities. She called elder abuse. They were, the coyotes were engaged in an online scam.
Starting point is 00:08:52 They were calling a little dog and saying, you need to help your cousin in Argentina. Roof, roof, roof, yes. Just send a check. The coyotes talk, but the dog doesn't talk. Little dog doesn't talk in this reality. And the coyotes can kind of talk. The coyotes can kind of talk. And those things like, just send a check to a roof.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I mean, yeah, I love the idea of the coyotes. They're just calling. It's this shitty scam they're working. It's kind of, yeah. It's good. It's a good bit. Is it a good bit? I think it's a pretty good bit.
Starting point is 00:09:30 You're so pleased with you. I wanna actually hear how she saved it. She just chased them down and got them away from the dog. Oh, they were starting to circle. She went into like war, talk about Amazon warrior woman. She just went ballistic and screamed and ran down the street, flailing her arms. And my daughter started freaking out and it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Whose dog was it? We don't know, it was just someone, some neighbor, a stray or something. So they were full on attacking the dog. You know what they do coyotes? They have one coyote that kind of lures a dog. I don't think they did, they hadn't attacked it physically yet,
Starting point is 00:10:01 they were circling it. Yeah, I've always heard that there's a coyote that comes out and maybe sort of puts on a wig and some lipstick. Oh. And it's just like, you know, hey big boy, those are some pretty broad shoulders and a fluffy tail. And the dog's like, rrrr, rrrr.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And I'm like, come with me. And then they lead her into the woods and the dog is like, are you sure there's a bar here? I don't know. Sure, yeah. Honey trap. Just keep heading this way, big boy. And then suddenly you realize there's like,
Starting point is 00:10:32 you know, 30 coyotes surrounding you. Yeah, maybe not. Is that a honey trap or a honey pot? Is it a honey pot? Honey trap implies more, you're snared. Yeah. But fellas, what a way to go. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Do you maul to death? Yeah, it doesn't work. Yeah, but what a way to go. Ripped apart by dogs? Oh, forget I said that. It's a guy who always says, but what a way to go and hopes that it's applicable. Anyway, they burned up on reentry.
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Starting point is 00:13:53 I will say this, I am excited to go to your home. Oh, I am too. Thanks guys. Yeah, and I know that you're going to be a little bit more excited about your home. I will say this, I am excited to go to your home. I am too. Thanks guys.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, and I know that, listen, I've been to your house before in daylight. I have not been to Altadena in the nighttime. And I don't think many people have. No, it's just one of those things that they tell you that like when you land at the airport, don't go to Altadena late at night. Whoa. Cause is there electricity? Yes, it's a normal town, there's stuff. Those things that they tell you that when you land at the airport, don't go to Altadena late at night. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Because is there electricity? Yes, it's a normal town. There's stuff. Okay. Stop saying there's stuff. There is stuff. Well, you keep calling it normal, which makes me think it's not normal. Because we're joking, but then when you say that, I think maybe there's something to this.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Hey, you want a burger? There's a burger. You want a pizza? There's a pizza. There's a burger in a field. There's a burger in a field. There's a burger in a field. And even the coyotes won't touch it. There's parks, there's things. That's the town burger. Do you want a sheet of burger?
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's out here, I'll show ya. Why are you wearing a wig, coyote? Arrrrrrrr, you want a sheet of burger? Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr even if it's Altadena. Whoa! Come on, you're so close. You're so close to being nice. Altadena's a really cool place. Stop shouting. It is. It's a cool place. Would you ever run for a city council and become part of the Kano Community Service?
Starting point is 00:15:34 I would. I would. You're a famous person that lives in Altadena. But there is no city council. It's not incorporated. It's an unincorporated part of Los Angeles County. Wait, there's no city council? As far as I know, no. It's part unincorporated part of Los Angeles County. Wait, there's no city council? As far as I know, no.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's part of the greater Los Angeles. When you turn your faucet, what comes out? Pasedina is incorporated. Alta Dena is unincorporated. Yeah, we're part of LA County. I will not live someplace that isn't incorporated. Yeah. I need to be part of a corporation. Where you currently live is an unincorporated part
Starting point is 00:16:10 of Los Angeles. Don't say where I live. I'm just saying that. Listen, people just need to remember that I live in Catalina. No, but where you live is not incorporated. You don't have, like, you know, your own stuff. You don't have like a fire department.
Starting point is 00:16:29 You have LA fire department. No, that's insane. Well, you guys just have a bucket for good. Yeah. You live so close to me. You really live close by. Within the corporate realm of Pasadena though. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And, you know, we have like, I don't have anything, but there's some celebrities that live in the area. I know they all have like robot drones that will take care of if shit goes down. Oh, okay. There's robots that will. I could get a robot drone. No, no, no. It's not Altadena.
Starting point is 00:16:59 The robot would be like, thanks, but no, I'm good. The robot turns it down. Not, wait, where is it? Not worth the risk. I'm checking Google. Sea monsters! I think I'll be... You're a robot! You have to do what I tell you to do.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I have to do most things, but that's a little sketchy. Outside of my directive. I'll just hang out in Pasadena. It's incorporated. A legal tax entity. Are we gonna drink? Oh yeah. Oh, you're making a cocktail?
Starting point is 00:17:36 I worked up something, yeah. I don't know if, it's called the S'mores Sessian. Hey! In honor of you. That's nice. That'll come along later in the batch of episodes though. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 This man, Matt Grohli makes a mean cocktail. Sure does. You really are an artist. I don't know what I'm doing, but thank you. You're quite good. You know, as long as we, you know, within reason. As long as we just sip lightly and we don't go at it too hard.
Starting point is 00:18:04 That's why we're waiting for later in the episodes lightly and we don't go at it too hard. That's why we're waiting for later in the episodes. We're not gonna get to it right away. That's good, that's good. Cause they can obliterate an episode. I've seen it happen in the past. I think it's fun. I know you do, I know you do,
Starting point is 00:18:17 but I'm not taking you home in a wheelbarrow again. It helps me tolerate these Aldadena jokes actually. So I think it is in our best interest. to actually tolerate these Altadena jokes, actually. So I think it is in our best interest. It's a whole kind of joke now, Altadena. The city itself? No, no, she said these Altadena jokes. It's become like a whole kind of like mother-in-law jokes. Yes. Mother-in-law jokes
Starting point is 00:18:36 was Altadena jokes. It has. It's a brand. I think I wanna ask the people of Altadena to rise up. It's all right. I don't know, we can do something. It's speaking of, and this isn't no pun intended, but it is very high, you're at a very high altitude. It is a high altitude, yeah. Altitude.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Altitude. Oh, you're an altitude. It is, it's a high altitude, it's nice, it's in the fire zone, but it's really pretty up there, there's so much hiking. It is beautiful up there. There's waterfalls nearby, there's, it's just, but it's really pretty up there. There's so much hiking. It is beautiful up there. There's waterfalls nearby.
Starting point is 00:19:08 There's, it's just cool. I think that, I think you gotta give it a chance. You sold me. I'm going to, I'm coming. All right, just come. I'm gonna get, yeah, I'm gonna go and experience Altadena. Are you doing anything to the house to prepare
Starting point is 00:19:22 for the onslaught of crew and cameras and stuff? You're cleaning it. You know, I wanna make that clear to people that, I know we have a very casual vibe here, but this is a professional organization. We are, I'm just gonna say we're a big podcast. And when we move, an army moves with us. I mean, really dedicated people come
Starting point is 00:19:40 and they set it all up, they take care of everything. It's very impressive to see. Yeah, I mean, that's probably at least 20 people coming to something like this, right? Yeah, oh, and I'm gonna get food because I have to give people some food. Yeah, and what will you get? Oh, will your parents be around?
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah, they're gonna watch the boys. Okay, will you get the burger? The burger, yeah. Well, you can get the burger, we can do the pizza. I don't know, I was gonna just get some like, you know, boat eggs from. Sorry, what? It's a cheese-filled puff pastry.
Starting point is 00:20:13 What? I don't know what that is. I honestly don't know what a boat egg is. You wouldn't. You wouldn't know. No, and I wouldn't. You wouldn't know. Boat egg.
Starting point is 00:20:20 What is it? It's a cheese-filled puff pastry. Like, phyllo- I'm still not getting it. Say it again. There's like different, there's a cheese filled puff pastry. Okay. Like phyllo dough. I'm still not getting it. Say it again. There's like different, there's a lot of different cultures that have- Is it Armenian or Greek? I think that there's versions in many cultures.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Okay. But in our culture, it's, yeah, it's just like puff pastry and then there's cheese and then you bake it where you can fry it. There's so many different ways to make it. And then, you know, I'll probably just get some other stuff. I have people come to my house and not feed them. My mom would be furious.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Are you good about that? I'm very good at when people come over, I want to feed them. I want to, I want there to be bounty when people come over to my house. And I, my wife, that wasn't her culture so much. And I, we, you know,. And we worked that out over time. Okay, you brought her over to your side?
Starting point is 00:21:07 I did, in the early days. She'd say, oh, and I purchased, there were three people coming and I purchased three thin wafers. That surprises me. No, she's so sweet. She's very nice. She just didn't know.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And I come from these, just a giant crazy pirate ship of insane people who just buy tons of corned beef and rolls and just lots of everything. If two people, whatever food you would need by 10 times that much is how I was raised. Yeah, same. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I think we did it. Is it done? It sure sounds like it. Can it be done? Hey, a quick question. Yeah. What should I be wearing? Are there mosquitoes?
Starting point is 00:21:51 Does it get super cold at night? Yeah, there's a lot of random insects, but you should just dress kind of warm and then we'll have a fire. And so it'll be fine. Would it be off-putting if I came in a very, very fancy trailer and I was inside and I would just- Like Starwagons?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, and I would just peek out the window occasionally at you guys, but I was inside and I was watching Lawrence of Arabia and HD and eating like a incredible veal parmesan and wearing a silk lounging robe. And then every now and then I lean out my head and go, some spores, there's nothing like it. And then I close my little window and you'd hear.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So the rest of the episode is just me and Sona hanging out? No, no, but I occasionally lean my head out. I'm there for the entire episode. But I only occasionally lean out. That sounds pretty good. I actually wouldn't mind that at all. We'll have the entire episode. But I only occasionally lean out. That sounds pretty good. I actually wouldn't mind that at all. We'll have the cocktail early. Sona and girls time, that'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, but then you keep noticing that incredible foods and masseuses are going in, all kinds of, there's just a constant stream of people going in to take care of my various needs. But we still just get to hang out together with- Yeah, make just the two of us. Yeah, we're cool with that, that's fine. That's fine. You mentioned that I cool with that. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You mentioned that I have a generator. That's fine. That it's very loud and shoots out a lot of toxic smoke. But it's there to power. Well, how do you think your house already runs? It's there to power my massage chair. I think that sounds like a good time. We should definitely do a Summer S'mores one time where it's just me and Matt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 That'd be fun. You know what? I'm OK with that. OK. And you know what? I don't think the fans will miss me at all. Oh my god. I'm so full of myself.
Starting point is 00:23:36 All right. Well, guys, let's head out to Sona's place right now. Off we go. For episode two. To Altadena to see the wonders of a new world. OK. It's just a normal place. Altadena to see the wonders of a new world. Okay. It's just a normal place.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Altadena. What a normal things. Tell my wife I loved her. Okay. I drive there every day. We already sent out the scouts. They didn't come back. The horse came back without them.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You sent a horse? They came out, they went on a horseback and then the horse just comes back without them. And old Westerns, that's how you know there's trouble. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's good. Murderware.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Summer S'mores with Conan O'Brien, Sonam Avsesian, and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Nick Leow, and Jeff Ross at Team Coco, and Colin Anderson and Cody Fisher at Earwolf. Theme song by The White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blayert
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