Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - The Body Politic Part II

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

Conan continues chatting with body mod expert Grace from Bristol to learn about extreme genital modification, body suspension, and more. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit team cocoa.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. We are back for Conan O'Brien needs a fan for a part two with the guest, which I think is like the first time we've ever done this.

I think it was the first time because we started talking, what Grace does fascinates me. Grace is a body modification model and tattoo artist. She's talking to us about body modification. We've, in the previous episode, which you've got to listen. to, before you listen to this one, you talked about many things, you talked about having

your eyes tattooed purple, you removed your belly button, you have a split tongue, you've have various face cuttings, which we haven't even discussed. And then, of course, we got into what you might suggest for me, which involved splitting my penis in half. You screwed them. Yeah. Yeah, I guess your penis is. No, the shaft. Yeah, the shaft, and let's just call it a shaft. The shaft would be cut in half, and then the scrotie would be separated. I guess if you're making two,

they would become scrotie. Wow. Yeah, I just love saying scrotie. Let's make sure we get that grammar, right? And then you can't split an infinitive or a scrotie. So anyway, and then we ended on a bit of a cliffhanger where, Sona, do you want to restate your question for Grace? I thought when Grace was describing this,

the penis split that when it gets erect, it just naturally like comes back together. Yeah, it's a transformer. It just suddenly becomes a monster truck. You want the girth in there. Or you want the girth. Well, yeah. I don't want, you don't want the half.

You want the girth. You want the whole thing. So I was like, do you tie it together with something? How does someone, a guy, perform the act, intercourse, if you will. How does he perform that act if his Don Johnson is split in half and one's going slightly

to the right and they're at a 45 degree angle to each other? Or is that a new kink? Is that a new way to please women? Maybe it is. I think that depending on the anatomy, it's probably going to have some difficulties in having conventional sex. But I

also think that men who are interested in cutting their dicks in half aren't interested in. in conventional sex. Probably. I see. Probably. Probably not even interested in sex.

Oh, interesting. I think the desire to have, you know, if your desire to split your penis is so great that you actually do it, it's got to be greater than having, you know. Right. You know, it's going to be going into the unknown of like, I have no idea what my sensitivity is going to be like after this. I don't know if I'm going to be able to have sex the way I used to have sex. you know, in that sense of like general intercourse.

But yeah, it's, I also, just to say, like, in my experience, most of the people that have a lot of extreme genital modifications, especially men, are usually people who don't have any other visible tattoos or modifications, and usually are in, like, pretty corporate high power jobs. Interesting. Wow. Where's Adam? Adam Sacks couldn't be here today. He says he's actually he's in Europe right now.

This is true. He's in Europe. He said he's in Europe with his family. But I saw his wife yesterday at the Arawon with his kids. So I don't know what's going on, but he might be next time we see him. This is really fascinating. Yeah. So I feel like Grace is saying I wouldn't meet one of these guys just like at a bar I'm at.

And he would not be interested in me, probably. Well, first of all. I don't think split dick guys want this. I'm like kind of... Split Dick's a great name for a band. Yeah, it is. Isn't it? Yeah.

Ladies' gentlemen, split dick. No, and then it's just soft acoustic rock. I wonder why I love you every day. And more with like really beautiful harmonies. More and more I see you now. See you now. We'll be back with more split dick. Split take will be appearing at the Newport Folk Festival next week.

Don't miss them. It's Ron on Dulcimer and Jeremy on the 12-string nylon guitar. Those are just the names for the two halves. Split dick. Split dick. Grace, this is just fascinating. As much as I want to stay. stay with the genitals, and I do love to hang

with the genitals. I do know that you've... Is that for me, by the way? Oh, no. That's from last time. Yeah, yeah. I know. I don't know why it didn't come off. You know what I mean? Don't be Ronaldo. Be messy. Oh, my God. Sorry, don't have people hate you. Have people love you. Oh, my God. I'm not going to stay on the genitals, just because I think this is what fascinates me. I have follow-up questions. Okay, go for it. Are you planning on anything new, Grace, or is... Do you feel like this

that you've arrived at where you'd like to be? Yeah, I don't think I would get any more body modifications. I think I'm kind of done. But the only thing in that realm that I would do, I know I'll do again is the body suspension. You know, when people hang from hooks. Wait, what? That are like in their bodies, right?

In their skin, right? Wait, excuse me, I don't understand. I'm not heard of this. people are suspended from hooks that go into their skin. That's like a medieval torture. How does that not hurt like crazy? It's actually the most euphoric and blissful experience that I've ever had. You've done it.

You've done it. I've done it multiple times, yeah. So where do the hooks go? The first time I suspended, I just had two in my back. So kind of like above the, below your traps, above your shoulder blades. Yeah. But I didn't like it. I felt very constricted.

And then one of the, there was this girl called Alice who used to facilitate all the suspensions back in the day. And she was like, Grace, you need to be upside down. There's nothing better. So then I did my first knee suspension. They put two hooks either side of your knee. In the skin, in the skin. In the skin, yeah.

I can't believe the skin doesn't give way. I know. It's incredible. I think the body is so cool. Unbelievable. Yeah, it's unbelievable how strong your skin is. Like, if it's pierced, obviously, it has to be pierced under the epidermis and go through all of the layers. And it has to, you know, throwing hooks, they call it, is like something you have to have done by someone who knows what they're doing.

And it's not something you can just do yourself in your back garden. But it's honestly incredible. I've seen people of all different shapes and sizes suspend. And what is it? You said there's this feeling of euphoria. Do you really feel like you're floating? Is that it? Do you feel like you're free of verse gravity? Yes. And it's, yeah, it's like the most blissful. Obviously there's an element of pain when they put the hooks in. That's a bit of a, you know, moment you've got to brace yourself for. And then when you first get lifted up, some people go up really slow. Some people go up really fast. I like to just get up there and get it done. Because that is the uncomfortable part. But once you're up there, you just have to kind of relax, like getting a deep tissue massage, you know, like relax. Relax. the body, deep breaths, and then this kind of wave of calm and euphoria just kind of like floods over you. And being upside down and being, because I like to, some people just like to be static. I like to be swung around, you know, people holding my hands and like swinging

me around. So I'm just like, you know, a little ribbon on a maple. And yeah, it's just, it feels incredible. That's so cool. There's like a lot of medical, obviously. Right? Like a lot of people who do this have to have some expertise. Like, are they nurses or doctors who just, just feel, figure out how far the body can go? I'm going to bring up one word, infection. So if you're putting any, I would guess you'd want people who are sterilizing everything before. You see, you want someone who has like a piercing background or who has been doing this for a long time. And, you know, all hooks and needles, needles are a single use. Hooks are sterilized in autoclaves, you know, like tools are for surgery. Like, you want someone who knows exactly what they're doing when it comes to the levels with, like, the ropes and getting everything sorted and, like, actually the rigging of it. So, yeah, you don't just want to, like, wing it or go to someone who isn't experienced.

Usually there's, like, cruise. So, like, suspension crews will stick together. Like, a group of people, like, they're, like, in Europe, there are, like, really, really, like, radical. suspension and body modification subcultures and like groups of people. When I was coming up in it, we were doing suspension. But like nowadays, people were doing like free fall suspension. So instead of like, you know, pulling yourself up gently,

people are literally jumping off bridges and doing like bungee swings. But instead of being... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I wouldn't quite certain that if I jumped off a bridge with these hooks in me, you'd hear a tearing sound and a skeleton

would go shooting into the Thames and a freckled body bag with a red pompadour would be hanging like a popped balloon. A freckled body bag. A freckled body bag would be hanging

over the Thames, flapping like the flag for a really fucking sad country. I'm quite certain that would happen. Hey, I have a question. You were talking about how you were talking about you. You're going to be okay, Senna? That's the worst imagery.

Splash. Splash. Swab, thwba, thwba. Don't do the sound effect. Swabh, thwba, thwb. It makes it so much worse. So, Grace. Oh, my God.

When you advise that I separate my, uh, separate my, the scrotum or scrot eye. We'll get some, of course, some viewer mail from that. Latin scholars are writing in. Latin scholars with a ball sense ball fixation are going to be writing in. Well, I, and you said I would get a big ring in there, like a metal ring.

Am I crazy to think that that could be all purpose, that I could use that to hang from? Would that work? Could I hang from it? I wouldn't jump off a bridge with that, but it's suddenly you've got, it's like a pickup truck, then you have a hitch attached. Right. I would now have a, I would have a hitch.

Utilitarian. So thin, isn't that skin really thin? Not mine. I probably wouldn't recommend suspending from the scrotum. You wouldn't recommend it? I'm writing this down. Don't recommend suspending from scrotum. Then, you know.

My scrotum is one contest, yes. It is strong. Do, but I could also, and this is an attachment that could be useful, if I had a scroto ring, that's, I know where my keys are all the time. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, I've got one of those little pill canisters. So, you know, my Lipitor is in, is hanging off one. This is, I mean, you know where your shit is.

Yeah. You know where everything is all the time. There's no, where did I put that? It's right here. Don Johnson's got me backed up. Does that make sense? Yes, it makes complete sense. Yeah, it's a good place to put your cholesterol on medication for sure.

Well, now you're complicit in my crime. Thanks. You know what? Keep it, keep down there. The nipples that I had removed, I would put them on the ring too. It's like a duffel bag in your, by your ball? I've got all kinds of shit down there. Yo, oh, a little mag light.

God damn it. I can't find my... Like a go bag. Yeah. It's just always with you. It's a go bag next to my bag. You should also have your keys on one of those janitor retractable cords.

Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I thought when he said there. The thing is, that's so great. I could reach into a... Basically, I would cut a hole in all my pants pockets. So I'd reach into my pocket and then

and I'd pull out whatever I needed. Yeah. And then I'd let go and go, and it would hit my... My juts. junk and I'd get a quick erotic ooh. Maybe have a quick mini orgasm like, there you go. There, it's unlocked now.

Zing? Mm-hmm. Anytime someone needed a door open, they'd be like, don't ask Conan. Yeah, yeah. I'd be offering to open my door for anybody. Hey, you want to go in here? No, no, no, no. No, no.

No, no. We don't really need to. We're good. I'll watch in. I'll open it just in case you ever need to go in. Zing? No, no, no. Wait, we'll wait.

We'll wait for a little. Lock Smith. Grace, you broke our podcast. You shattered it. I apologize. I never knew that this very cool woman in Bristol, England could destroy a podcast. Yeah. Here's the problem.

I think I'm going to have questions later that I haven't even thought of yet. And I feel like I can answer them. Okay. Oh, no. I can't think of two people that are more opposite than you and Grace. Yeah. Grace, let's face it, I'm an uptight guy. and I've played by the rules in so many ways,

except in my comedy, I believe. I think that's where I let my freak flag fly. Yeah. But, yeah, you're the split dick of comedy. In a way I am. In a way I am. Girls! They mentioned that in the Twain Award.

Please welcome this split dick of comedy. Cleft in Twain. Never those twain shall meet. Listen, the, the, I'm just, we are very different, but we're so different. But I do feel like I'm, I have a real affinity for Grace. Yes, there's that thing where it's like the game Pac-Man. You're so far afield, but if you go through those doors on the side,

you really just next to each other on the back. You know what I mean? Sure, I'm just thinking Pac-Man too. Yeah. But, Grace, do you think in some ways we're kindred spirits, even though we're so different? Absolutely. Yeah. If I, I mean, let's say I was in Bristol, England and you and I were hanging out, would we, would you sense like, okay, I know he's, he looks completely square, he's very uptight, but would you also see some, okay, I kind of get this guy?

I have no doubt in my mind. If you came to Bristol after like a pint of cider, like, because it's very big in Bristol as the cider. After a pint of cider, we would be out at an illegal rave. You would be dancing. night way. You know, I might actually. I think so too. It's so funny because I have always been this way and then it just takes a little bit of spark of something and there's nothing I won't do. Yeah, it's actually true. I think that there, I mean, like these CEOs probably didn't know they had that in them and then they needed somebody to get it out. Maybe Grace will get, what? Adam. Yeah. Maybe Grace will get it out of you. Maybe we're talking to Grace. Adam. Adam walks by in the background wearing a surgical robe postdoc.

But still throwing, trying to throw to ads. Yeah, yeah. He's like, uh, uh, Adam is that? He just, he doesn't even know we're there. Yeah. But then he sees, he sees us and he goes, oh, make sure there's a dynamic ad insertion.

We need to bump up the third quarter. Adam, what are you doing there? Well, I'm waiting for my dick to heal. I went three ways. Yeah. He's got three. He's got the tripod. Where are you moving to in the States?

I hope it's not like Wisconsin or something. I don't know. Or maybe it is. I'm coming to Los Angeles. Oh! Hey, Grace, you have to come back and visit us. We have a little studio here in Larchmont. We should do a part three where you're in the room, you know?

I would absolutely love that. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah. So when do you arrive? I'm actually coming out in July for the month. and then I'll be moving out with my dogs in November. Well, can you, yeah, coordinate it. Yeah, Blay will coordinate that with you, Grace,

and we'll get you in studio, and I will start fasting now. What are you fasting for? My operation. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's just these are the things you have to do when you're about to have worked on. You seem to know a lot about it.

Yeah. Oh, I've had many things on. And I have lots of ideas for Sona, because I know you asked me what I think Conan should have as bottom modifications, but I've got some ideas for you, babe, so we can go over that as well. Let's save that as a cliffhanger. That's going to be the cliffhanger when you're here in studio. And maybe you'll do it.

Whoa. Sona, maybe you'll do it. Sona, let's find out what it is she has in store. Don't just say, yeah, go for it. All I'll say is that what I actually have in mind for you, because of something that you said during the podcast is actually not permanent. So...

This is intriguing. Let's not give it away. But I will say that it's pretty hardcore. Oh, hell yeah. All right. We're going to do it. Well, let's wait to see what it is first. No, we can just offer me up.

Stay tuned for part three. We're definitely going to do whatever this idea is. On the table right here. Son will be having surgery in the podcast. First time that's happened on a podcast. podcast. And Grace is going to talk Conan and I through the procedure and we're going to do it. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll put a pin in that. Grace, uh, so fascinating talking to you, entertaining and lightning and just fascinating. And we can't wait to meet you in person.

Well, thank you so much. Honestly, it's been a pleasure and I really appreciate you having me part of it. Oh, of course. What a delight. All right. We'll take care and stay cool. I know you guys are having a heat wave right now. And I'm about to go and get in the paddling pool in my garden where I've been all day. I'm just going to sit in the dark in my garden in a paddling pool. Okay. Try and cool down. Just don't rust while you're in there. I'll try not to you.

I'll try not to. All right. Take care, Grace. Bye-bye. All right. Thank you, darling. Have a good day. Conan O'Brien needs a fan with Conan O'Brien, Sonam of Sessian, and Matt Gourley.

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