Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Uncle Chutney and the Bubble Bunch

Episode Date: July 22, 2021

Conan talks to university graduate Lewis about bad dreams and how to introduce parents to comedy. Then, he chats with William from Anchorage about reluctant outdoorsmanship and whether Conan would be ...difficult to hunt. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: TeamCoco.com/CallConan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hello there, Lewis. Please meet Conan. Good evening, boys and girls. Hello, Lewis.
Starting point is 00:00:17 How are you? I am good. How are you? I'm half 12. My bedtime was a long time ago, but that's okay because this is worth it. Oh, that's very nice of you. Actually, I really, so much to say, first of all, Lewis, I can tell that you're somewhere in the UK.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Where are you exactly right now? Watford. It's just outside London. Okay. And so you're just outside London and it is 1235, I think, where you are. It is. And you're matching his energy. Well, I am.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm matching his energy because it's very late and I do match people's energies. I'm very much like that. If you've ever watched, I'm just, I'm, I do that. I just, I match people, I mirror people. Lewis is wearing, I'm just going to describe for people. You're wearing adult pajamas and a lovely bathrobe and it's very civilized. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I don't. All of my pajamas are striped. They're all the same. Are you in prison? If you're in prison, you can tell us. No, what I was going to point out is that I admire that because I think in America we've really let down the side, we're all, so many of us men just wear t-shirts and boxer shorts to bed.
Starting point is 00:01:31 You are, you look like you could have a mug of cocoa. You look like you're afraid Santa's going to come soon and you need to get to sleep. I mean, I can't just miss in the hat for Screech. Screech. You know what's, you're not going to believe this, Lewis, but my wife's father, my father-in-law, he wears a dressing gown when he goes to sleep and he wears the hat, the cloth cap. One night he came, you know, something like an alarm went off in the middle of the night and we all came running out of our rooms and he came running out and I thought, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:02:07 he just fell out of a Dickens novel and he's really wearing that. Ghost drifting through the bedroom. Yes. I love that. Where do you, are you, are you in school? You seem very young. Yeah, I'm 22, nearly 23, 10 days. That's young.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Oh. Thank you. Coming up. Thank you. I've just finished a degree in media and creative writing at the University of Hertfordshire. Oh, that's a, what a, you guys have the best names. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I know it sounds very posh, but it's not. It's not. You don't have to tell people that. It's the University of Hertfordshire. That just sounds fantastic. Yeah. Did you have a good time? Did you enjoy college?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Or do you call it university? Yeah. You just call it university. University, yeah. Did you enjoy it? Have college as well and that's before university. Oh. Very confusing.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Right. And you're, when you, what you call nursery school is what we call medical school. I know it, it all, it's very complicated. When we say here, I'm at nurseries, my kid goes to nursery school. You guys get very penned because, uh, so what, so explain to me, um, you studied, you're graduating or you're, you're not graduated yet. I have not graduated yet, but I finished all the work. So I basically graduated.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Is this your thesis right now, what you're doing? Going to an American, you guys say chat show host, um, this could count maybe, uh, you could submit this and maybe get some kind of a credit. I don't see why not. Well, I do. I see, I see many reasons. I see a lot, I see a lot of problems. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. Lots of reasons, why not? Yeah. I think they would say, no educational value. This has no value whatsoever. This is a terrible, terrible man. What are you interested in doing? Are you interested in, in getting into, uh, this world of communications?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know quite where to go, but my brother's started in TV, um, on a kind of children television right now. So I might just follow what he does as I always have. Oh, does that annoy him? I bet it annoys him that you always, you do what your brother does, right? Just a leech.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So you're going to just copy your brother the way I'm copying your energy. That's what you're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, what's, I love that if this just keeps getting quieter and quieter. It really is. You just fade out. This is the podcast equivalent of a glass of warm milk.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I'll just drift through my house once again in my striped pajamas. Yes. Now, Lewis, you seem like a, a funny fellow. Are you interested in comedy at all or does that not interest you? I think that's terrifying. Yeah. Absolutely terrifying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Um, I'm interested in comedy, but maybe not being in comedy. Right. You like to just be a fan, watch it. Yeah. Sure of it. Yeah. Do, um, well, I have to say I'm a massive, uh, I've all my life loved English, uh, comedy. And I think some of the funniest people on the planet, uh, to me have come from England,
Starting point is 00:05:08 uh, or elsewhere in the UK. And so I'm, you know, I've always been envious. But then I'm told, oh no, you're, you're not seeing cousin chutney in the, you know, bubble headed gang. You know, whatever. That sounds pretty good. Actually, I just said that off the top of my head, but Bubble headed gang?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah. You know, fish and chips and, you know, Bickle me bang, you know, we're not seeing that stuff. What's the heck? I think we have those. You do? You have? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah. They're on in like the late hours. Late hours. Well, I think that's where I should be. I think I should be on at like two in the morning in London. Yes. That's where I should be. Because I've never really quite found my niche here in America.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I think that's my niche. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of nonsense. Do you, uh, tell me about your... We'll just say real quickly that the energy got a little high there. So let's try to keep it back. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I'm so sorry. Lower the gusto. Sorry. Sorry. Too much gusto. So Lewis, uh, if you don't mind telling me, um, I feel like we're on National Public Radio now. Uh, Lewis, if you don't mind telling me, um, a little bit about your family, you're living
Starting point is 00:06:16 at home right now, I suppose, and you're with... I am. ...mother, father, uh, brothers are off working in children's television, which means they're probably dressed as a bear or a sheep. They're dressed as some kind of stuffed animal, um, hitting each other with sticks, the delight of children. What are your... What are your parents?
Starting point is 00:06:35 What are they like? Um, they've... They are very chill. They're just, just like, just like we are now. Is it true that your parents are so chill that, um, they think of you as hyperactive? They've wanted you on the drug Riddlin' for a while because they think, and they think that you're a rageaholic because you're constantly, in their opinion, shrieking? Is that...
Starting point is 00:06:56 Is that true? They're constantly telling me to lower my gusto because there's far too much. I love lower my gusto. So much gusto. Yeah. So much gusto. Do your parents even know that right now you're on an American podcast? Uh...
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah, I had to mention it because if my brother heard me talking in my room at this hour, um, then he'd probably come in thinking I was having a bad dream because that's happened before. Oh. Oh. And what for you is a bad dream that the robe is a little course that you're wearing? What's... Yeah, there's not 100% cotton.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You wake up in a sweat. Oh! Thank God. God, it's not true. 100% cotton. What was your bad dream when your brother burst in? Um, well, I can't remember it, but he did film it. Your brother filmed it?
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, because I was saying this person's name over and over again. It was quite terrifying actually to watch back. Was it Conan? It wasn't a name I knew. Okay. Right. So did you warn your parents that you were doing this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. They must have been so excited. They stopped your reaction. My dad was more excited. Is your dad aware of my existence on this planet? I think they've seen Conan without borders. But I did have to remind my mom who you were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Is your mom... She sounds like she's a rabid fan of mine. Absolutely. Is she the kind of person that if she was exposed to my comedy, would she like it? Or is that not her cup of tea? No. Be honest. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:41 This is a safe space. We're in your attic right now. That actually comes into my question for you. And it's that why doesn't my mom like American humor? Oh. So that first question's answered then, I think. Okay. I show her a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I think you could just play her this and that would answer all the questions you need. She doesn't like American television, she doesn't like American comedy. Yeah, it's the comedy. We've been going through Parks and Recreation at the moment. That's an excellent show. If she sometimes likes it, but some episodes, it just ends with her saying, it's okay. But that's like a direct descendant of the British office. So what does she say to that?
Starting point is 00:09:26 I don't think she'd like that either to be fair. Oh. So it's not that she disapproves of America. It's very critical. She's just very critical. Yeah. Is she critical? We try to watch Mr. Robot as well.
Starting point is 00:09:36 You are watching Mr. Robot with her? With my mom and my dad, and my dad loves it. My mom doesn't. And she really should leave the room. But she sits there with like a newspaper and just kind of looks up with disapproval every now and then. It's cold. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I know. That's cold. What does she like? The Avengers? That's the only British show I can think of. What is her show? Shut Me Brothers and the Bubble Hut or whatever it is. Does she like the Great British Baking Show?
Starting point is 00:10:12 No. Never got into that. Oh my God. What does she like? Does she like? Here's my question. You can help us cut to the chase list. What does she like?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Is there anything that she gets excited about and she puts the newspaper down and watches it with glee? Would I lie to you? It's a panel show and you have to find out whether people are lying or not. Sounds rubbish when I say it like that. Is it good? Do you like it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Oh. It's a great show. Oh. I actually agree with her on that. Okay. So her, she loves watching a pathological liar and trying to catch them in a slip up. She should love this show. Nothing I've said so far today, Lewis is true.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Well I think it sounds like your mother, if I had to guess, your mother I think is trying to protect herself. It sounds to me like she's building a bit of a defensive wall. If you're going to jump into a world of watching different shows and exposing yourself to the arts, you need to let go a little bit. Your father's up for it but your mother is not and it's safe for her. What's the paper that you guys like to read? Is it The Guardian?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Is it the? It's The Sun. This isn't. Yeah. Is that the one that has all the naked women in it? It used to. I'm always shocked. That would be on an international flight and they would say, would you like the British
Starting point is 00:11:32 newspaper? And I'd say, well yes, please thinking that it would be this very stuffy affair and I'd open it up and there'd be 19. Page three. Page three. Wow. You're the page. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Trust me. I started flying airlines just to get that paper and I would steal all the page threes. But these incredibly sexy ladies right there, sometimes quite exposed in the newspaper. We don't have that in this country. USA Today wouldn't stand for it. Yeah. We have high standards. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's just a pie chart is about as sexy as it got at USA Today. But my guess is that your mother feels safe holding that paper up and kind of hiding behind it and choosing this defensive posture. What do you think, Lewis? Yeah. I think so. I'm old and I think I will break it one day. I will break it.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Wow. But it sounds like it's... Sounded violent. I meant more. Yeah. Show her more. But it sounds like it's mainly you said for American shows. So do you think she has an issue with America?
Starting point is 00:12:35 She's critical of all shows, but I think American humor especially. Ah. Well, I have to agree with her that I think there's a lot out there in America that's not good. You know, I'm not allowed to toot my own horn, but I see myself as a lonely bastion, a lighthouse and the fog, if you will, trying to set the standard, trying to raise the standard. But you know, it's a lonely profession that I've chosen to be so good at what I do for so...
Starting point is 00:13:06 But your mom doesn't know who Conan is, right? Is that what you said earlier? No. Okay. I just wanted to remind you that his mom didn't know who you were. Just in case you forgot. No. I remember now.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. I'm so sorry. You're his dad. I should have mentioned that. No, no. You know what, Lewis? We believe in honesty here. Plus, I can pay to have this segment edited.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Perfect. I'm going to hire John Oliver to pretend to be you, and we'll do edits, and he'll say things like, my mother loves you, in fact, everyone in England loves you, you're a national hero here, and we'll do little fixes here and there. Does your mom like John Oliver? Because he is British, but he does American humor. I don't think she's aware of John Oliver either. Does she know the musical Oliver?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Does she like that? Yes. Yes, I was actually in it. Finally. Were you in Oliver? I knew it. I was. I was Fagan.
Starting point is 00:13:57 You were Fagan? Yes. You seemed like you'd be a pickpocket, a little British pickpocket. Give us a taste of Fagan. Yeah. It was mostly the hands. Yeah. I wear fingerless gloves.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, if you're in a Dickens play, the first thing you do is start chopping off the fingers on the gloves. Put this on. Straight pyjamas, straight into the fingerless gloves. Wow. Does she like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, the movie? No. But she does like sound of music.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh. Well, everyone loves sound of music. Yeah, everyone does. She's the occasional Nazi who doesn't like it, but for the most part, they're like, well, they should have caught them. But for the most part, people are fine with it. Well, I have to say, Lewis, I think I diagnosed your mother correctly. I think she's a very good person, and I think she's someone who's just, I think she's in
Starting point is 00:14:47 a protective crouch, if you will, afraid to give it up for what she sees as just a chaotic world of wild comic ramblings. She's not up for that. And so that's why she's chosen this position, it's safer, don't you think? Yeah. You know, I feel bad for her now. I think I need to mention I am a musician. I have an album called Live For More by Huckleberry Friend, and she will be very upset if I didn't
Starting point is 00:15:20 mention that. Well, that's nice. And first of all, I am not nothing against your mom. I do know many people like your mom, and I sometimes am like that myself, just wanting to say, ba humbug to all of this, to pick up on the Dickensian theme. And so I think your mom is right, there's a lot of bad stuff out there. And as I said, I am a lone beacon of quality in a world of garbage. I'm just speaking now in an incredible silence because no one agrees with me.
Starting point is 00:15:51 We're back to low-cost. I'll join you out. Let's take it out on some low-cost. So let's do one last plug because I want to make your mom happy, and I want your mom to understand that if she really wants the good stuff, she's got to get some Conan O'Brien into her life. There's plenty of it available online. You can show her the good stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Absolutely. Defy you to find anything that's less than A plus quality. One more plug for your music. It's called Huckleberry... Yes, I'm called Huckleberry Friend. Huckleberry Friend. And my album is called Live For More. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Do you sing? This podcast has just turned into you two plugging your own shares. So the comedy to watch is Conan O'Brien, Conan O'Brien Without Borders. Listen to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend or watch The Conan Show on the Turing Network. Or the classic stuff is Late Night with Conan O'Brien, the brief stint of The Tonight Show. If you want music in your life, Huckleberry Friend, the track is Live For More with my good friend Lewis. And I think if you have those two things in your life, you honestly don't need anything
Starting point is 00:16:53 else. You can just end it here. Well, not end it here. That sounded nice. That sounded nice. Always nice when someone across the pond invokes mass suicide. Lewis, you are the quietest, most soft-spoken of all the people I've ever talked to. But I admire you.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Very intelligent and you're a fine representative of your nation. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you very much, Conan. Yeah. You're a fine specimen yourself. This ended very, I mean, my heart rate now is at 15 beats per minute. Hello, William, how are you?
Starting point is 00:17:41 I am doing all right. How are you? I'm pretty good. Where are you right now, William? I'm in Anchorage, Alaska. Oh, my God. Wow. I'm in Anchorage, Alaska.
Starting point is 00:17:49 That's fantastic. It's pretty great. Yeah. I mean, I can't tell them you're just in a room, so you could literally be in Cleveland right now and I wouldn't know. Yeah. I don't know why I'm acting like, I just had the enthusiasm of someone who was just transported to Alaska onto a mountaintop and all I'm doing is looking at someone on Zoom in a room.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah. Oh, my God. I could take you on a trip if you wanted to and scan it out in my backyard and you'd see the proof, but then you'd also see my backyard and that's not good. Okay. Well, I'm guessing shallow graves everywhere. William, you live in Anchorage. What's it like in Anchorage?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I've never been there. Are there flies? Are they huge? Do they have rivets on them? You know, do they weigh like six pounds? I mean, what's the weird exotic stuff that happens in Anchorage that doesn't happen anywhere else? I mean, other than like the sun never setting and stuff like that in the summer, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:42 you get used to blackout curtains and things like that. And mosquitoes are, I mean, there are mosquitoes that are about the size of your palm when you're really... That's what I've heard. I've heard that mosquitoes are massive. Yeah. Those big ones don't eat you though. They eat other mosquitoes, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:56 My wife went on a run today and she had to go a different direction because there was a moose on the path. So like, there's a lot of crazy stuff, man. That's cool. Yeah. That's kind of a neat story. You know, think about it. Think of, I would love that if I tried to take a jog, but I had to alter my course because
Starting point is 00:19:11 of a moose. Yeah. I had to work a couple of times because of that. First of all, are these, what's the plural, meese? Isn't it just moose? Moosin? I don't know. Moosin.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I'm going to say meese. Are these meese, these numerous moose-eye, are they doing this to be dicks, like just standing in the path? Do they know they're being an obstruction or is it just who they are? I don't know. The only times that I've ever really come up on moose have been pretty accidental. In town, they're pretty used to humans. So I think that they, it's kind of like, I'm not going to move.
Starting point is 00:19:43 It's a very alpha move. Yeah. I see. I see. So sometimes you're trying to use an ATM, but the moose is standing right there at the ATM and you can't get past it and you have to wait like four hours. Every now and then, the moose, rather than just move, it just checks its balance in its checking account.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. Then it'll make me give it, it's my lunch money, stuff like that. It's a bully. At least they're moosins. Oh, they suck. They suck. They're bullies. They're irritating bullies.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I thought they were great noble beasts, but now I've changed my mind. What do you do, William? I work for State Farm. I do insurance. Okay. All right. Fine company, I'm told. They have agents everywhere.
Starting point is 00:20:24 We read ads for State Farm and this is not, this is a total coincidence, but I have read some State Farm ads and apparently they do, they have something like 80,000 agents all across the country. More agents than you'd ever think about. They have a lot. They have like 20. And this is not an ad. This is a total accident.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. I do remember, I do remember some of the copy from Reading State Farm. Me too. No, they have a lot of agents. Yeah. Almost way too many. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. They've got, you know, it's like they're agents representing other agents. It's insane. William, you live in Anchorage. I would think if you lived in Anchorage, there'd be this pressure to be out there with a bowie knife, hunting, canoeing, putting tennis rackets on your feet and traipsing through the snow. Yeah. Are you that kind of guy?
Starting point is 00:21:09 You see, the first time I snowshoed, I was so drastically disappointed because my only exposure to that was like Winnie the Pooh when I was a kid and you actually stay on top of the snow. It sucks, man. I'm not, I'm not the outdoorsman at all. Oh no. Well, I mean, it's okay to not like snowshoeing. I tried it once and I thought it's a total scam.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's just a good way to trip. Yeah. It just makes your feet bigger and more clumsy and you're still in the snow. That's someone's practical joke that's lasted hundreds of years. Oh, having trouble getting to the snow, tie these oversize tennis rackets to your feet. Go ahead, still having trouble, tee hee, keep at it for a few hundred years. That's what I think snowshoeing is, but are you an outdoorsman in other ways? Not really.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I mean, I like playing sports outdoors, but not like the outdoorsman like. Do you know how to hunt game and then hunt it down and then field dress it and then smoke it over a flame and then eat it? Oh yeah. I, when I did go hunting with my father-in-law, the only moose I saw on that hunt was when I was waking up from a nap, it had snuck up on me and my gun was out of reach. So there's the time. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:22:21 You went hunting with your father-in-law in Anchorage, Alaska, right? You're out in the countryside in the woods and you go to sleep. You see no game. You go to sleep and when you wake up, a moose is looking at you and it's between you and your gun. Well, the gun was off to my left a little bit, the moose was about 15 feet in front of me. Now tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:22:40 The moose also had a gun, right? Yeah. It was back for my lunch money again. The moose was like, ah, have a nice nap, did you? Yeah. Don't even try for the gun, William. You won't make it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Wow. That's incredible. So you did nothing. You just stared at the moose and then it walked away. I tried to reach for the gun and it just, moose are fast, man. Moose are fast? Are they really? I don't think they are.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I just think of them just. I think that moose took its time leaving, William, and I think, I don't think you had it in you to shoot a moose and I don't blame you when you shot the moose. If you could, I don't think you would have. I would have if I could have because it's good food, but I did on the hunt. I wound up getting a grizzly bear. What? You got a grizzly?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah. That's going back right there. I got a grizzly bear. Yeah. That's insanity. I, first of all, I've never, grizzlies are, they're like a killing machine grizzlies. Yeah. I'm fascinated by grizzly bears and I happen to know that they'll, if they start charging
Starting point is 00:23:44 you, it doesn't even matter if you have a gun, you're, it's, it's over. I mean, they're practically bulletproof. What do you mean you got a grizzly? I. You had nine moose taunting you and you did nothing and then you say, oh, but I got a grizzly. Yeah. I, like I said, I'm not an outdoorsman.
Starting point is 00:24:03 My father-in-law, he's been hunting since he was like seven or eight years old. Your father-in-law sounds like a bully. He's a manly man. And. Is he Nick Offerman? You can tell us. He's like Nick Offerman with a little less hair on his head and his mustache. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I think Nick Offerman is playing a prank on you. Yeah. That'd be a pretty fun prank. But you know what? I'm, I'm, I'm, it sounds to me that I'm just getting the cliche of you're this very nice soft-spoken, pleasant young man who likes to probably stay inside and work on his X-wing fighter model. And then your father-in-law is like, we're going out to get the dreaded moose.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And you're thinking, I'd rather put on your snow shoes out we go. Is that what happens? I mean, that's not too far off. I wouldn't have gone if it weren't kind of obligatory, if I'm being honest. Oh no. It was a great experience though in hindsight, like one of the best experiences in my life. So wait a minute, so you've told us about basically, you know, you got moose to the left of you, moose to the right, but they're out waiting you at every turn.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Tell us how you bagged the grizzly. I, I was, I was up in a stand and we were just kind of sitting there for like three or four hours. And as we were sitting there, we, we heard some rustling off to the right and, and he's like, Hey, like there's a moose start calling it in. And so we start raking and, and we just use this bucket. What do you mean raking? I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You use a bucket lid and you just kind of scrape a branch and it kind of sounds like when a moose is raking their antlers on a tree. So we start raking and it starts raking back at us and then she starts saying, I'm a moose. Yeah. I'm a moose. Yeah, exactly. I'm a moose. You should try it sometime.
Starting point is 00:25:40 So bad at it. I'm a moose. That's what I'd be doing. Yeah. I'm a moose. So that, that moose then started coming downwind of us cause that's what they'll do. I found out. This is all information that I'm just regurgitating from him.
Starting point is 00:25:52 They'll come downwind of you to see if what you're all about, get a whiff of you. And right when he got about parallel to us, maybe 30, 40 yards into the forest, we heard what sounded like a, like a pit bull just growling right in our ears. But it was a, it was a grizzly bear like 150 yards away, but it sounded like it was just right up on the ear. And he looked at me and he's like, do you want to shoot a moose or a bear? And in my head, I'm like, I don't see the moose yet, but I see the bear now. And I lined up my shot and luckily basically killed it instantly, which you can't really
Starting point is 00:26:27 do on purpose. Wow. I think given the choice between you said moose or grizzly, I'd have shot the father-in-law. That guy's, you know, and first of all, what's, is it fun to be up in a stand? I just would feel like Lee Harvey Oswald up there. You know, comes driving by in a motorcade. That's where's the sportsman shipping that you want to be down there on the ground fighting it with your own bare hands.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We'd been, we'd been hiking out a lot. And I'd gotten lost earlier that week, even though there was relatively good paths and stuff. Like I said, it's not my thing. I was safe up there. Yeah. I'm glad you were up there. I'm glad you're safe.
Starting point is 00:27:00 What do you do then with the grizzly? Well, there's a whole lot of stuff that goes on. They'll size it. And if you want to, you can like enter it in to see if it falls in like certain size categories that certain associations will like give you awards for. So I actually, it wound up being that this grizzly bear was an inch and three quarters shy of the world record. What?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah. Of the, what do you mean of the world record? World record? You mean the world record? For interior grizzly. Wait. You said world, not just in Alaska, but in all of the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So Boone and Crockett is the association that is like, they measure the biggest fishing game they get recorded. And there's Kodiak grizzly, so like the coastal ones. And then there's interior grizzly. You're not an outdoorsman. Wow. You go out on a hunt and you're so not an outdoorsman that you fall asleep and a moose has to wake you up and show you where your gun is.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. It's like, oh, you dropped this. There you go. And you also dropped your ammo to ask moose. No problem. That's how much of an outdoorsman you are. Then when you least expect it, you shoot it a grizzly, you miss, but your miss shot kills it instantly, and then it turns out to be slightly, slightly, slightly less than the
Starting point is 00:28:19 biggest grizzly, interior grizzly in the world. That is an accurate summary. Oh my God. I've had a pretty good hunting Spotify playlist though, so like I was ready in that way. I've, I've, wow, I've read Jack London. I've read Call of the Wild. He never talks about his Spotify playlist. Even Arcade Fire came on and I was really rocking it out.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I was listening to a little Taylor Swift and she was singing Revenge and then I squeezed the trigger. Wow. That's, that's quite a story. I don't know if I could do it. I don't know if I could, I don't know if I could shoot a grizzly bear. Let me ask you a question. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You've hunted grizzly, which they say is a very dangerous game, but we both know the most dangerous game is man. Let me ask you something, William. If you were hunting me in the woods, do you think I'd be a dangerous quarry? You would probably bound through it the same way a moose, I feel like you'd be able to jump over things the same way a moose does, just, it looks awkward, but then it's able to kind of maneuver in ways you wouldn't expect. I've seen you on stage before and it's just a lot of like, zigging and zagging.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah. Yeah. First of all, you're not wrong. I give the appearance of being awkward, but I'm deceptively quick. I often get downwind of my guests. I like to sniff them out before I interview them to find out what they're all about. But also I think I would, I could attack. You could be tracking me, but then at some point you might realize I'm tracking you.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A little reverse game of cat and mouse there. Yeah. I wonder what my flesh, I'm, you know, I'm no spring chicken. Would my flesh taste better because I'm a little older? I'd been around a bit. Would the flesh of the Conan, the great wild Conan, do you think would it be tasty?
Starting point is 00:30:09 I don't know that there's a good way to answer that. Yeah. I don't know. That feels like a, that feels like I've been backed into something that's almost got like some legal ramifications there. Yeah. Why would I, listen, don't say just because I asked you were you to hunt me down and kill me and then eat my flesh, would it taste good that I'm backing you into an awkward question?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah. I don't think that's an awkward question. Well, you know, the bearer tastes good because it's eating berries because it's older. So what is your diet? I mean, you would taste like. Boo berry. Boo berry cereal. I eat a lot of Boo berry cereal and I also eat Frankenberry and Count Chocula.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I eat a lot of, I eat a lot of berries that are fake berries that are in children's cereal. Do you think that would make my flesh taste good? I'd eat you. There you go. I guess if, if Sona would then, then I'm on board too. Yeah. I haven't accomplished and I'm not the only person in the room who's saying, yeah, it wasn't that bad.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Well, grill you up. It'll be sweet. A little garlic. Lots of garlic. A lot of garlic. Herbs. Well, William, I got you to pretty much admit that you look forward to, to hunting me in the woods, tracking me down and then partaking of my flesh.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So you came across at the beginning of the interview like a nice normal chap. Now we see you for, now we see you for who you really are. Yeah. Jesus, this turned into a freak show. It started out so normally. Wow. And I understand there's happy news on the way. You're having a child.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. Yeah. In the, in the time that I interviewed for this is, the child is the second biggest news. I found out I was going to be on Conan and I found out that my wife and I are having a baby. Wow. So you took life, but you brought life into the world. Evidently.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. So there's a nice yin yang to that. Do you know what you're having yet, boy, girl? No, no. Bear? Well, actually, we are pretty early on in the process. Oh, congratulations. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Thank you. Sona here is carrying twins. She'll be having twins very soon. Very, very soon. Twin boys. So she soon will know the glory of bringing life into the world. Won't you, Sona? Yes, I will.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Pretty excited though. It wasn't very expected. Wow. Okay. A happy surprise. Yeah. Yeah. I would say so.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Well, William, very nice talking to you and I'm very excited for you. Think of the name Conan. Not many people do. But consider it. It works for a boy or a girl. I was both. So. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. Gender fluid. Sounds good. We'll take care, William. Thank you. Thank you guys. This was a lot of fun. Bye.
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