Consider This from NPR - A year after the strike is the UAW still winning?

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

A year ago at this time, members of the United Auto Workers Union were feeling powerful and optimistic. The group's new President Shawn Fain had called a historic strike. For the first time, the Union... walked out on ALL three big automakers. It was a bold move that by most measures worked. It ultimately brought Ford, GM and Stellantis much closer to the union's demands for historic raises and new job protections. The strike's success had people predicting a bigger and more powerful union.A year on the union is still staring down some major challenges. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Email us at considerthis@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We've been very consistent in our message that September 14th is a deadline, not a reference point, and we expect all three companies to have that agreement. If they don't, then there will be action. United Auto Workers President Sean Fain was talking to CNBC's Squawk Box last year as the strike deadline closed in on the big three automakers, Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis, formerly Chrysler. No deal, no wheels! Union strong! In a historic move, the UAW walked out on all three of the big automakers at the same time, targeting some of their most successful plants. The union asked for wage increases of 40 percent over four years, the return of pensions and retiree health care. Those demands were a long way from where the big
Starting point is 00:00:53 three automakers were in those negotiations. I'm extremely frustrated and disappointed. We don't need to be on strike right now. That's GM CEO Mary Barra talking to CNBC shortly after the strike was called. We put a historic offer on the table that not only has very significant gross wage increases totaled through the contract over 20 percent that compounded is 21 percent. But we also have job security. We maintain world class health care. There's so many aspects of this of the offer we have on the table, that I think really is going to resonate with our employees. So we didn't need to be here. The offer did not resonate with UAW members, and they stayed on the picket line for about
Starting point is 00:01:35 six weeks, during which time more workers from more plants walked out. No justice! No jeeps! No justice! No jeeps! And then in late October, tentative deals were finally reached. For months, we've said that record profits mean record contracts. And UAW family, our stand-up strike has delivered. Consider this. The strike by autoworkers in late 2023 seemed to signal better times for the autoworkers and the UAW. But a year later, for some, that future is in doubt. From NPR, I'm Elsa Chang.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It's Consider This from NPR. A year ago at this time, members of the United Auto Workers Union were feeling powerful and optimistic. The group's new president, Sean Fain, had called a historic strike. And for the first time, the union walked out on all three big automakers. It was a bold move that by most measures worked. It ultimately brought Ford, GM, and Stellantis much closer to the union's demands for historic raises and new job protections. And the strike's success had people predicting a bigger and more powerful union. A year on, the union is still staring down some major challenges. NPR labor reporter Andrea Hsu and Stephen Basaha of the Gulf States Newsroom hit the road to find out why things are looking different. And they're here to talk about it. Hey to both of you.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Good to be with you. So Andrea, I want to start with you because you went back to a Stellantis plant in Ohio and talked to workers who a year ago at this time were on strike. What did they tell you about how they're feeling now? Yeah, I went back to the Jeep plant in Toledo, Ohio. That's where the Jeep Wrangler and the Jeep Gladiator, that's the big pickup truck, are made. And it was a really different scene from a year ago. You know, last year people were fired up.
Starting point is 00:03:43 They were happy with how the negotiations were going. And this year, they were not feeling good at all. They were not optimistic about the future of the company. Their schedules have gotten really chaotic. They've told me that even this week, both production lines have been temporarily halted for different reasons. There's a parts issue. Also, there's too much inventory on dealer lots. But these kind of work stoppages have been pretty frequent lately. And it's giving workers the feeling that their jobs aren't that secure. Well, how is Stellantis doing financially right now? Well, you know, their vehicles just haven't been selling as well this year. They make,
Starting point is 00:04:21 in addition to Jeeps, they make Ram trucks and the Dodge Durango here in the U.S. And the company reported that the overall profits were down 45% in the first half of this year. That's a lot. Now Stellantis is about to lay off a couple thousand workers outside Detroit next month. And it's also delayed the reopening of a plant in Belvedere, Illinois, where a new midsize truck was going to be built. Now, this is a huge blow to the union, which had fought to get that plant reopened. Stellantis is pointing to changes in the market, changes in consumer demand, but workers are really blaming Stellantis for missteps on things like pricing. In any event, this is all bad news for
Starting point is 00:05:03 workers. I met it with Jim Cooper, an assembly worker at the Jeep plant who I met last year on the picket line. And here's how he put it. This is the lowest the morale has been in the 11 years since I've been here. Wait, I don't get it. Wouldn't someone like Jim Cooper be making more money now than when you met him a year ago? Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And in fact, when I was in Ohio the other week, workers got another raise that very week. So most workers now are making more than $36 an hour. That's $5 more an hour than they were making before the strike. But back then, they were also making a lot of overtime because there was so much demand for cars. And now that sales are down, they're getting fewer hours. Now, a smaller number of workers have gotten even bigger pay bumps. I met this guy, Kevin Pinson, who had worked at the Jeep plant as a temp employee for six years. And under the new contract, Stellantis agreed to roll over a couple thousand of these temps to full time. And he was among them. He went from making
Starting point is 00:06:03 about $19 an hour to now more than $36. And that has been life changing. Here's what he said. Before the raise and everything, I actually had to donate plasma and stuff to make extra income just for bills and stuff because my hours were not steady. Jeez. Yeah. So Elsa, he's no longer donating plasma. But even for him, things haven't been easy because there's less work at the Jeep plant, for six months, he was assigned to work in a warehouse outside Detroit, which for him was a three-hour round-trip commute. So the money has been good, but he's also not feeling great about where things are. Well, Stephen, you're based in Birmingham, Alabama.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I understand that you've been traveling through the South to meet with workers who've been the target of the UAW's efforts to organize non-union auto plants. Before you tell me what you found, can you just give us a little more context on why those efforts are even happening? Well, yeah, it's because the South actually has this booming auto manufacturing industry. You might normally think about Detroit when you think about American cars, but really foreign car makers like Mercedes and Toyota, since like the 80s, they've been really building this giant industry in the South. Like Alabama alone has five major assembly plants, and none of them have a union.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So while auto jobs in many cases have been shrinking for decades in the North, if the UAW wants to grow, it has to look south because that's where the workers are. And a year ago when the UAW won that big new contract, it finally had something to sell to these workers to say, hey, this is what we could give you if you join us. Well, now I'm going to steal a line from your reporting where you said that southern hospitality was replaced by Southern hostility. Can you just explain what that means here? Well, yeah, the South, it certainly can be a welcoming place, but not for everyone and not when it comes to union. It's practically like a New York level
Starting point is 00:07:55 of like bluntness. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey, for example, had said a couple of times, Alabama is no sweet home for the UAW. And this is a message that's been shared and put out by business leaders too and other politicians. I mean, I've even heard of preachers in southern states going to these different manufacturing plants to tell workers not to join a union. And this is really all driven by a fear that unions will cost the South good auto jobs. Like take this video. It's one of several that's been played on loop inside the Hyundai assembly plant in Montgomery. We don't need no outside source to come and tell us what to do.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like, as a union, we have to try to make sure we keep these companies here because it feeds our small business. Now, industry experts say it's unlikely a union would cause a plant to shut down. But those fears, they played a large part in why workers at a Mercedes assembly plant in the state voted against unionizing back in May. But wait, there has been some hopeful news for the UAW in the South, right? Yeah. I mean, Tennessee, that's really their big success story. In April, you had around
Starting point is 00:09:01 4,000 workers at a Volkswagen assembly plant. They voted to join the UAW. And the advantage that they had there, though, is that they've been trying for a decade to get an election at this, or they had three elections at this plant over a decade. They had seen Volkswagen break promises from previous elections, so they were extra motivated, unlike other Southern workers, to be like, okay, we definitely want a union this time. And the UAW really wants to use this
Starting point is 00:09:25 plant to set an example. It's noteworthy that when they had their anniversary on Sunday of the big strike, the big three strike, UAW President Sean Fain, he came down and held a rally for these workers in Tennessee because negotiations are also starting this week for their first contract with the union at the plant. Now, this is a chance for the UAW to show other Southern workers that they can deliver in the South. Because at least for now, Tennessee's success is really the exception to the rule. The exception. Okay, well, a question for both of you. Did either of you expect these headwinds a year ago, like when the UAW seemed to be so strong? Well, organizing the South, it was never going to be easy.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I mean, this did feel like their best shot in a very long time. But the UAW has been trying for decades to unionize down here. Again, that Tennessee plant and the Volkswagen one, it took three votes to finally get one to make it to that point. Most of these plants, even like the Mercedes ones that voted against it, that was the first time that plant ever even had a chance to vote. And even beyond the South, union fights are really a slog. It could take years.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And while the headlines can make it seem like these strikes and union elections, they kind of come out of nowhere overnight, it often takes years of painful work. Yeah, and I'll say, you know, people who closely follow the auto industry have told me, you know, it's a very cyclical industry. We saw car sales go through the roof during the pandemic when people, when Americans were flush with cash. That was never going to last forever. And now the automakers are also in the middle of this really messy and costly transition to EVs. The UAW is really fighting for its place in that transition. It did make some progress in the last contract negotiations, for example, getting GM battery workers under the National Labor Agreement.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah, and along those lines, earlier this month, we had 1,000 battery workers at a GM-joined venture battery plant in Tennessee. They joined the UAW, too. Yeah, plant in Tennessee, they joined the UAW too. Yeah, that was a big win for the UAW. But, you know, as for Stellantis, this week the union filed federal labor charges against the company, really in an attempt to get Stellantis to follow through on its investment promises, including reopening that plant in Belvedere. You know, this is just not going to be an easy fight. And it's one that I expect will probably end up in court. That was NPR labor reporter Andrea Hsu and Stephen Visaja from the Gulf States Newsroom. Thank you to both of you. Thanks for having us. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:56 This episode was produced by Brianna Scott, Christine Arismith, Gabe O'Connor and Gustavo Contreras. It was edited by Courtney Dorning, Pallic-Gagoy, Ed McNulty, and Emily Kopp. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. And one more thing before we go, you can now enjoy the Consider This newsletter. We still help you break down a major story of the day, but you'll also get to know our producers and hosts and some moments of joy from the All Things Considered team.
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