Consider This from NPR - Artemis II is ending, how long before NASA gets back to the moon?

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

It took more than 50 years for humans to return to the moon. Will it take another 50 years before NASA can get back?Fifty-four years. That is how long it has been since human last traveled beyond Earth’s orbit — since the crew of Apollo 17 left the moon behind in December 1972.This week, NASA’s Artemis II mission changed that. Why did it take so long? And given everything we know about the agency’s plans, budget battles and the growing shadow of China’s lunar ambitions — is the road ahead actually realistic?For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at [e-mail] episode was produced by Linah Mohammad and Karen Zamora.It was edited by Courtney Dorning.Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

After looping around the moon, witnessing an eclipse from space, surpassing, and yes, doing some high-stress repairs on their space toilet, NASA's four astronaut crew of Artemis II is coming home. Here's Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hansen marking their record-breaking journey. He and the crew traveled 252,756 miles from Earth. We will continue our journey even further into space before Mother Earth. succeeds in pulling us back to everything that we hold here, not long-lived. Make sure the record is not long-lived, Hansen challenged. Consider this. It took more than 50 years for humans to return to the moon. Is it going to take another 50 before NASA can get back? From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow. It's consider this from NPR. Fifty-four years. That is how long

it's been since human beings last traveled beyond Earth's orbit, since the crew of Apollo 17, left the moon behind in December 1972. This week, NASA's Artemis II mission changed that. Four astronauts flew around the moon aboard their Orion spacecraft, snapping stunning photographs of Earthrise and Earth set, and setting a new record for the farthest humans have ever traveled from Earth. By any measure, it was a milestone, but it also raises a bigger question, one that has followed NASA for decades.

Why did it take so long? And given everything we know about the agency's plans, budget battles and the growing shadow of China's lunar ambitions is the road ahead actually realistic. Joel Achenbach is a science reporter who's been tracking Artemis since the beginning. Welcome. Well, thank you for having me. Let's just step back a moment. What did this week represent to you? How significant was this for NASA? This was a huge win. I mean, it has just been so exciting. The astronauts have been amazing. NASA needed a win. I mean, NASA has had a rough time in various ways, including how long it's taken.

to get back to the moon. You've got to keep in mind, the idea of going back to the moon surfaced after the Columbia Space Shuttle disaster. And President Bush, George W. Bush, said, we're going to go back to the moon. That was 2004. So that's, you know, 22 years ago. And it's been a start and stop process, many delays. You know, I'll be honest, I often wondered, is this really ever going to happen? Are we really going to send astronauts back to the vicinity of the moon? And you and I are talking hours before the planet splashdown, so that's obviously the big question hanging in the air right now. Let's talk about what NASA got out of this week. Obviously, it got a lot of PR.

It got a lot of positive attention and energy from this mission. What do you think the most important engineering and scientific gains from Artemis II have been? And what would a successful splashdown prove? Well, it just proves that NASA can still do these amazing things. It can send people to the moon and bring them back safely. You can make an argument that this mission didn't prove that much. NASA doesn't have a lander for its Artemis program to actually land people on the moon. And so that's probably going to take a while before they get their contractor,

SpaceX or Blue Origin, to produce a lander. But, you know, I was old enough to watch the Apollo program, and it was thrilling and exciting. We did not have back in 1969 and 1970 and 71 anything like the ability to document a moon mission like we do today. So visually this has been stunning. The astronauts also, they're doing a lot of experiments. There are a lot of biological experiments to see what happens to their bodies. This is different from going up to the International Space Station, which is about 250 miles above the surface. They're out there 250,000 miles away.

I mean, yes, we've been to the moon before, and frankly, you know, Apollo 13 did a kind of a similar kind of mission where they did the flyby. But we have the ability scientifically to do experiments that no one did back in the late 60s. or early 70s. Let's just reality check the next few steps because the plans for Artemis going forward have changed many times, changed again recently under the Trump administration, and you just mentioned the most important thing. They don't physically have the lander to go down and land on the moon as is planned right now. What are your biggest question marks and what are you looking ahead to over the next few years

to reality check this? Well, I mean, there is this notion that we're in a race against China. to get to the Lunar South Pole where there are resources that are coveted by both countries. There's water ice, permanently shadowed craters have water ice in them. There are some mountains there that are always in sunlight where you could potentially have solar panels and energy sources. And there's a notion that in the coming decades, you know, there is going to be a trillion-dollar space. economy and the moon is a good platform for operating. But this has been a great week for NASA. So let's, you know, let's just applaud them at the moment for how well this has gone and how

brilliant the astronauts have been. And it's just, it's been, it's just been fun to watch. And, you know, it's kind of, it's hard not to feel, hey, we're back in the game. Joel Achenbach, a science reporter who's been tracking Artemis and NASA. Thank you so much for talking to us. Thank you. This episode was produced by Lena Muhammad and Karen Zamora. It was edited by Courtney Dorney. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan.

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