Consider This from NPR - Big Cities Struggle To House Migrants, Asylum Seekers

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Across America, big cities facing an influx of migrants, struggling to provide basic resources.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Texas will be taking its own unprecedented actions to do what no state in America has ever done in the history of this country. Last year, Texas's Republican Governor Greg Abbott announced his plan to deal with the thousands of migrants crossing the southern border every day. He began transporting them out of Texas, sending migrants and asylum seekers to cities across the U.S. An influx of migrants to New York and other sanctuary cities is testing their already strained social safety. Governor Greg Abbott has confirmed within the last hour that he is, in fact, sending a bus of migrants here to Philadelphia. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot taking some parting shots before leaving office. She's calling on Governor Abbott to stop what she calls the inhumane and dangerous busing of migrants to others. Saying the huge number of immigrants and what he framed as poor immigration policies
Starting point is 00:01:00 unfairly impacted southern border towns, Abbott laid the problem at the feet of President Biden, literally by busing migrants to Washington, D.C. We are sending them to the United States capital where the Biden administration will be able to more immediately address the needs of the people that they are allowing to come across our border. The idea caught on in one high-profile example. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis directed planes of migrants to the wealthy vacation spot Martha's Vineyard, a small island off the coast of Massachusetts. Abbott has expanded the busing. He calls it Operation Lone Star to Denver and Los Angeles and continued to route buses filled with men, women and children to D.C., New York, Philadelphia and Chicago. The move has led to outrage from immigration rights groups. Folks are arriving
Starting point is 00:01:46 to New York City at times having had little or no food, little or no water, having received no medical care. Murad Awada is the New York Immigration Coalition executive director. And to also ask people to sacrifice food and water in a two- to three-day bus trip is actually incredibly harmful to the individual who just went through a really horrific process to just literally get to the southern border, to present themselves at the port of entry, to legally present themselves for asylum, and then to be treated this way is just inhumane. Northern cities that have received migrants are feeling the strain. New York City Mayor Eric Adams expressed the frustration shared by other city officials on the receiving end of this sudden influx of migrants. Calling on the federal government for aid, Adams said providing additional resources
Starting point is 00:02:39 of medical care, housing, and support has brought the city's resources to the brink. We need help, and it's not going to get any better. From this moment on, it's downhill. There is no more room. Consider this. Immigration reform remains one of the most contentious issues facing the country as we head into another presidential election. With big city budgets already stretched too thin,
Starting point is 00:03:04 what is the impact on urban communities struggling to provide essentials like housing to incoming migrants and asylum seekers? From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow. It's Wednesday, November 8th. It's Consider This from NPR. Officials in major cities are faced with the challenge of housing thousands of migrant refugees. Many are seeking asylum and many have been bused from the southern borders of Texas. Big city mayors say they need a lot more help to provide housing and other services. To get a sense of how this is going, especially with winter approaching, I spoke with three reporters from around the country to talk about how their cities are working to address the swell of newcomers.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I started in New York City with Liz Kim of WNYC. Hey, Liz. Hi, Scott. So New York has received the largest influx of buses from Texas, and Mayor Eric Adams initially welcomed them. But as this has gone on and continued, he has shifted his view. He's now going as far as to call this a crisis that may destroy New York. So what is the city's current plan to get through the winter? To understand how the city has been addressing the crisis, we should start out with New York City's unique legal obligations when it comes to the homeless. The city has what's called a right to shelter rule, and it applies to anyone who needs a place to sleep indoors. So what the city has
Starting point is 00:04:33 done from the beginning is they have found those spaces. It's rented hotels. They've outfitted municipal and even private buildings, and they've also built massive tents. Currently, we have around 65,000 migrants in the city's shelter system. Migrants now make up more than half of the city's total residents in the shelter system. But what's happened now is that the mandate is becoming a draw for migrants, and that's on top of many reasons why immigrants want to come to New York City, the main ones being the fact that it's a large global city with good transportation and jobs. Now, New York is a sanctuary city, and it offers a safety net for undocumented residents.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And the mayor has been proud of that. He initially welcomed migrants, as you said. He stood in front of Port Authority bus terminal, and he personally greeted migrants as they were coming off the bus. I mean, Liz, it is interesting how much Adams has shifted on this. Was there a particular moment you can point to when he went from being welcoming to saying, this is untenable and the city can't handle this anymore? It was when he realized that this was not just a temporary wave of new people coming into the city who needed housing and education. So now he and taxpayers are confronted with how much this obligation to house and take care of migrants
Starting point is 00:06:02 is going to cost the city. The mayor has said that it could cost as much as $2 billion this year. So let's shift to Chicago and Tessa Weinberg from WBEZ in Chicago. Tessa, it seems like it's fair to say this has been a little bit of a different situation in Chicago, right? That the city has really been struggling and overwhelmed in its attempts to try and find housing for people. Yes, definitely. We are out of space for folks here in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And Mayor Brandon Johnson has been trying to put forward this plan to create winterized tent camps for the coming months. But that's been pretty contentious, hasn't it? Yes, it has been. They've been controversial, and we've not seen a single base camp actually constructed yet. But Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson's administration has said the city has few options to really try and quickly house people before winter sets in. The city has pitched these so-called base camps. They would look like large tent light structures that could have thousands of people with the goal of moving people out of police station lobbies and into these new camps.
Starting point is 00:07:01 In Chicago, we've had more than 20,000 migrants and asylum seekers arrive since August of last year, and we just simply do not have enough space in city shelters for everyone. There are more than 12,000 migrants in city shelters, and another 3,000 have been sleeping on the floors of police station lobbies and O'Hare Airport because the city simply does not have enough room. But even deciding on where these base camps should be located has led to fierce protests. It's already snowed in Chicago here too. And here's what Mayor Brandon Johnson had to say recently. It snowed, but winter is not here yet. And so my goal is still to make sure that we have base camps before winter. The city has also hired a controversial private staffing firm called Garter World Federal Services to construct and build these base camps.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It's a company that Denver actually decided against using. And the recent waves of asylum seekers have also highlighted deep divisions in the city. Many communities have pushed back on having shelters for migrants in their neighborhoods, and residents of long disinvested communities have said they want to see resources flowing into their neighborhoods, just like the city is putting toward housing and supporting thousands of asylum seekers. So let's actually talk a little more about Denver with Rebecca Tauber of Colorado Public Radio's Denverite. Rebecca, Tessa just said that Denver opted not to bring in a private company. Tell us how the city has been approaching this problem and how that's been working. Yeah, exactly. As Tessa said, right
Starting point is 00:08:25 before our last mayor, Michael Hancock, left office in the summer, he backed off of a $40 million all-inclusive contract with Guarda World, which is that big international company. That's in part because activists had concerns about the company's track record, and the contract also would have cut local nonprofits who have already been doing this work out of the picture. So that means the city is still running migrant operations in-house under a state of emergency in partnership with nonprofits and hotels. In the meantime, we have a new mayor, Mike Johnston, and he's in the process of considering proposals from a number of nonprofits to break up that work and keep it more local. The goal is to hand this work off to them, but that's still in the process. So Denver's definitely taking a different approach from other big cities by circumventing a big company.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But it'll be interesting to see if that works better. We honestly don't know yet. I mean, the federal government has tried to do several things to ease this problem. There's a pilot program the administration is kicking off this week in Chicago. It's designed to help new arrivals and shelters that are overwhelming the city apply for work authorizations to speed up that process. But what cities really want is money here, right? They've asked for $5 billion from the federal government. So I'm wondering what each city's general plan is to get through the next few months
Starting point is 00:09:45 if there's no more resources coming from the federal government. Liz, let's start with you in New York. Well, Mayor Adams has already announced that if he does not get more help from the state and federal government, he has no choice but to order budget cuts. And we're talking about draconian cuts. So that's going to be very interesting to see how that develops because certainly New Yorkers are not prepared to see essential services cut. Tessa, what about Chicago? Chicago's really banking on more federal support coming through. We haven't heard budget cuts yet, but we're in the midst of budget discussions and the cities acknowledge what they've budgeted
Starting point is 00:10:24 for supporting migrants through next year is not going to be enough. So they need the extra help. And Rebecca, what is Denver's general plan? Similar to what Tessa said, we're in our budgeting process right now too. And just between September when the budget was initially announced to now, the mayor's staff has said they are already recalculating how much they might have to spend from reserves on this. And that's in addition to softening sales tax revenue over the past couple months. So it's definitely worrisome to think about this is what you spend emergency reserves for, but what if that converges with something else? Denver has spent $31 million in
Starting point is 00:11:00 the past year and only gotten around $13.5 million from the state and federal government. The governor and last mayor set up a fund for individual donations, but it's hard to imagine that'll fill all of the need. Checking in on just three of the many cities dealing with this growing crisis, that was Rebecca Tauber with Colorado Public Radio's Denverite, Liz Kim with WNYC in New York, and Tessa Weinberg from WBEZ in Chicago. Thanks to all of you. You're welcome. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You're welcome. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Scott Detrow.

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