Consider This from NPR - Climate Change is Making It Difficult to Protect Endangered Species

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

The Endangered Species Act turns 50 this year. The landmark law has been successful for decades at stopping extinctions of several plants and animals.Recovering endangered or threatened species to the... point where they no longer need federal protection has been more difficult because of climate change.NPR's Nathan Rott speaks with Martha Williams, Director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service about the agency's plans to mitigate threats of extinction caused by climate change.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This message comes from Indiana University. Indiana University is committed to moving the world forward, working to tackle some of society's biggest challenges. Nine campuses, one purpose. Creating tomorrow, today. More at iu.edu. On the Florida Keys, there's a species of tiny deer that at their biggest are only about the size of a golden retriever. Stupid cute. The key deer exist nowhere else, just these low-lying islands off the South Florida coast. And as recently as the 1950s, there were only about two dozen key deer left on the planet, pushed nearly to extinction by poaching and growing development. Today, though, they're so common here on Big Pine Key
Starting point is 00:00:52 that for residents like Omar Barrera, they're practically a part of the landscape. Let's call Julia, little Patrick. Who's lazily grazing Barrera's yard. That's Emma. How'd you choose these nebs? From movies. This one's the cutest one, I think. Yeah, Little Robert, huh?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Little Robert because... Robert De Niro. Barrera says these deer know his schedule. They're here every evening when he gets home from work. Like dogs. These are basically your dogs? Yeah, basically dogs. You see them? They don't run away. They're nice every evening when he gets home from work. Like our dogs. These are basically your dogs? Yeah, basically dogs. You see them? They don't run away.
Starting point is 00:01:29 They're nice, man. I love them. The key deer, or toy deer as they're sometimes called because of their miniature size, was one of the first species protected under the Endangered Species Act, which turns 50 this year. And like 99% of the other species that have gotten protection from the landmark law, the key deer has avoided extinction. 99% from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Things not only stabilized, but the deer were doing great. In fact, their population is probably as high now as it has been in recorded history. Chris Berg with the Nature Conservancy has spent most of his life on the Florida Keys, much of it protecting wildlife like its namesake deer.
Starting point is 00:02:07 We essentially, we the conservation community, the Endangered Species Act, the state and federal wildlife management agencies, we saved the key deer. And now climate change is taking that win away from us. Climate change, sea level rise, is taking the win away. Emissions from cars and power plants and factories have raised Earth's temperature, causing ice caps to melt, oceans to rise. Already, sea levels around Florida have risen about eight inches since 1950, a trend that's only expected to accelerate in the future.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And every inch of sea level rise, Berg says, is more land underwater, less habitat for the endangered species, and the 80,000-some people who call the Keys home. You know, from a sort of ecological science perspective, it's fascinating to be able to watch this occur and fast forward. But from a resident homeowner, you know, conservation, trying to protect this species, it's a bummer. It's a huge, huge challenge. Over its 50 years, the Endangered Species Act has been very successful at stopping the extinction of species. But it also tasks wildlife managers with recovering endangered or threatened species like the key deer to the point where they no longer need federal protection. And that has been harder to do. threaten species like the key deer to the point where they no longer need federal protection.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And that has been harder to do. Consider this. With climate change transforming the planet, how can a federal agency save a species when its habitat, the only place it lives, is disappearing altogether? And the survival of that habitat... This message comes from WISE, the app for doing things in other currencies. Send, spend, or receive money internationally, and always get the real-time mid-market exchange rate with no hidden fees. Download the WISE app today or visit wise.com. T's and C's apply. This message comes from Indiana University. Indiana University performs breakthrough research every year, making discoveries that improve human health, combat climate change, and move society forward. More at iu.edu slash forward.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's Consider This from NPR. The Endangered Species Act is being tested by climate change and sea level rise in particular in these low-lying island ecosystems. Chris Berg again with the Nature Conservancy. The same, he says, is true in other places where habitat is shrinking or transforming because of the warming world. Forests not recovering from wildfires, Arctic coastlines without ice, coral reefs, like even those around the Keys, bleached nearly lifeless in hot waters. Human-caused climate change is affecting everywhere. The threat to the Keys, though, is acute. To see it, just hop on a boat.
Starting point is 00:04:58 A little bit closer and we can just load on up. Christian Edelson is with the Florida Keys National Wildlife Refuge Complex, which includes the National Key Deer Refuge, one of the oldest wildlife refuges in the country. His colleague at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Nikki Colangelo, is joining us here on this boat. She works in ecological services, the part of the agency that, among other things,
Starting point is 00:05:22 determines if a species should be listed or not. Eggleston and Colangelo are responsible for a huge area, hundreds of islands between Florida and Cuba, with 31 federally endangered or threatened species. Everything from the Bartram's hair streak butterfly to sea turtles to the stock island tree snail. It's easier to see how threatened they are, Eggleston says, when you're out on the water. So if you guys are ready, we'll go a little bit faster just to make good time. And you might want to hang on to your hats or turn them around. We speed across the aqua waters past house-lined shores, most on stilts, and make our way between islands past a pod of bottlenose dolphins to a windy patch of bathtub-warm water north of Big Pine Key.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It is pretty stark when you're out here. It's like we're standing on Big Pine Key and everybody's like, oh yeah, the highest elevation here is eight feet above sea level. And it's like one thing to hear that when you're on land. And then when you're out here, it just, it's like the thickness of a plate on the horizon. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah, like you said earlier, in terms of being on the water and seeing it from the water and thinking about these small islands and imagining one foot, two feet, three feet of sea level rise. And it doesn't take much. Yeah, because they're so low. Already, Eggleston says, shutting off the boat engine, the changes are hard to ignore. It's so in your face and it's really obvious that it's happening.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Roads are underwater. Salt is creeping upwards into soil, shrinking the island's already scarce fresh water and making it harder for some ecosystems, like Pine Rockland, favored by the key deer, to recover from wildfires and hurricanes. Different things are being eroded away and we're watching islands disappear. There's really no way in the immediate term to stop the seas from rising. So Eggleston, Colangelo, and really anyone you've talked to on the Keys who's worked to bring the key deer back from the brink of extinction, know this presents an almost existential challenge. Here's Colangelo again.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Because the options range from giving up and letting a species go extinct to doing absolutely everything you can and putting animals in zoos. Or moving species like the key deer to places they don't currently live, like the mainland U.S., where they'll be able to successfully breed with other deer species, effectively making them no longer genetically unique. I mean, I don't want any species to go extinct on my watch, you know, I don't think any of us do. I mean, but it's society, we're a society on that, you know. Colangelo says for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to answer some of these questions
Starting point is 00:08:23 about whether to actively move plants and animals, translocating them to new environments, or banking their DNA, or just letting them go, quickly becomes an ethical question as much as it does a logistical one. And she says it needs an all-of-society response. I think we all feel it so strongly to make sure a species doesn't blink out under our watch. I spoke with Martha Williams, the director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and I asked her, what are we supposed to do when a federally endangered or threatened species is seeing its habitat disappear due to climate change?
Starting point is 00:09:03 We have always, I think despite what some people think, we have always looked at the Endangered Species Act as creatively and flexibly as we can. And one answer I think is to make sure we have the flexibility to really use all the tools available to us to help that species in the habitat where it still survives. But then also, where can we replicate that habitat? How do we make the habitat better? Can we? And that's one of the rules, the Endangered Species Act rule proposed in the Biden administration, and that's to reintroduce a species in some place
Starting point is 00:09:47 that it wasn't its historic habitat, but might be just the habitat it needs to survive into the future. So basically looking at a habitat that a species might not be in right now, but that we suspect or we project it will go to as the climate warms and the environment changes. That's right. Because what we're seeing with climate is it's moving the suitable habitat for some species. So if we're really committed to conserving, especially a species like the keyed air, you know, that's ridiculously cute, then we've got to be thinking about all of the tools we can use to allow it to survive into the future. Do you think we'll be moving species? I mean, I know we talk about moving species. Is that something you see the agency doing?
Starting point is 00:10:33 I'd like to not take tools off the table. And I don't see us doing it right now. But looking into the future, I'd sure like to have that possibility. So I want to step back. But looking into the future, I'd sure like to have that possibility. So I want to step back. When you're thinking about the first 50 years, I mean, what would you call some of the biggest wins of the Endangered Species Act over the last 50 years? Oh, gosh. I mean, I think that we have prevented the extinction of almost 99% of the species that were ever listed. So the success is that there are all these species that are still
Starting point is 00:11:05 around. I went to Georgia recently late at night and saw loggerhead and green sea turtles come in and lay their eggs by the moonlight. And then the next morning, they didn't hatch instantaneously, but then I also saw hatchlings go out to sea. And I thought, oh my gosh, like, you know, just to see that and experience that awe, they're around because of the Endangered Species Act. So I think there are all these very iconic species, but then other, you know, not iconic species that are weird and cool and interesting, but are really important for so many numbers of reasons, whether it's for medicine, pharmaceuticals, whether it's just as representative of a healthy habitat, clean air, clean water, resilience to climate change, to sea level rise. The fact that those species
Starting point is 00:12:00 are still around, I think that's a remarkable achievement. You mentioned the 99% figure for preventing extinction, which is remarkable, right? species that are still around. I think that's a remarkable achievement. You mentioned the 99% figure for preventing extinction, which is remarkable, right? It is. Recovery has been a little more of an issue and a little harder to get species to the point where they no longer need federal protection. Why is that? What makes recovery difficult? I think of recovery and actual delisting as something different. And the concepts get confused. If you think about, unfortunately, species get listed when they're in the emergency room or the Endangered Species Act becomes the emergency room. So by the time they need the listing, they're in a world of hurt.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And so think of the continuum. Think of what it takes to get that species back on track and having long-term recovery thereafter. So it's not easy. It is a long process. It takes a lot of partners. No one does it alone. And then if you think of climate change, right, in the face of that, when you've got habitat fragmentation, you have sometimes illegal wildlife trafficking, you have invasive species, you have impacts of climate change, whether it's drought, whether it's sea level rise, whether it's fires, whether it's extreme heat. There are all these different things. If you think about how hard that is for people, imagine how much harder it is for these species in this web of life that depends on, you know, every little piece and can be very sensitive. When you're looking forward at the future of the Endangered Species Act, the next 50 years, what do you do that? But I also think about, Nate, how do we make sure people are connected to nature and actually care about this?
Starting point is 00:14:11 I think about that all the time. Like, how do we make sure the American public can connect what we're doing under the Endangered Species Act and thinking about why does that matter to them? Why does the Endangered Species Act matter and be key to saving us as a species, saving life on Earth? That's what we're doing. And so I think it's partly, you know, connecting that to everyday people to say this is why we should care. Martha Williams is the Director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Thank you for being here. Thank you. Thanks for having me, Nate. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Nate Rott. Support for NPR comes from NPR member stations and Eric and Wendy Schmidt through the Schmidt Family Foundation. Thank you.

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