Consider This from NPR - Data shows women are leaving the workforce. What does that say about the economy?
Episode Date: August 19, 2026For decades, one of the most reliable trends in the American economy has been the growing number of women working.But lately, government data shows women’s participation in the labor force has been ...falling.What's behind this trend - and what does it tell us about the state of the US economy?This episode was produced by Linah Mohammad and Karen Zamora, with audio engineering by Hannah Gluvna and Robert Rodriguez. It was edited by Sarah Handel and Tinbete Ermyas. Our director is Alejandra Marquez Janse.Our interim executive producer is Courtney Dorning.Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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It's consider this where every day we go deep on one big news story. Today, women in the labor force. For decades, one of the most reliable trends in the American economy has been the growing number of women working. But lately, government data shows women's participation in the labor force has been falling. Some of the jobs where women are concentrated, including education and government jobs, have been hit by cuts. But there are other reasons, too, like employers scaling back remote work and
the cost of child care.
The costs are going up, and also they need to be able to have that flexibility in order to manage everything.
Priya Rathad, formerly a workplace trends editor at Indeed spoke to CBS mornings in April.
And when we see workforces reducing that flexibility, you're pushing these women out,
and frankly, you're losing all of the great experience that they are here to give you.
Consider this. Data shows that women are leaving the workforce.
Is it a short-term dip or something bigger?
And what does it all mean for women and work in America?
From NPR, I'm Juana Summers.
It's considered this from NPR.
There's new data on women leaving the workforce.
Why?
And is this a short-term blip or something bigger?
We put those questions to Betsy Stevenson.
She's a professor of economics and public policy at the University of Michigan.
And she studies work, families, and gender.
Betsy, welcome.
It's great to speak with you.
Great to talk with you, too.
Okay, I want to start just big picture here.
When you look at what's happening with women's participation in the workforce right now, what stands out most?
I think there's really a glass, half full, glass, half empty story that we could tell right now.
Because we definitely see a downward dip happening.
But it's coming off of the highest labor force participation rate for prime age women.
And that prime age is something economists used to refer to people who are between the ages of 25 and 54.
So I don't want to put too much pressure on the downward trend and say this is really important because historically we're still seeing high rates of labor force participation.
I have been following this topic closely.
And I couldn't help but see all over my social media.
There was a lot of attention on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
the National Women's Law Center says it showed women accounted for essentially all of the recent decline in labor force participation.
How much should we read into that analysis?
I think we want to be really careful about looking at any kind of month-to-month trends, particularly when it comes to labor force participation.
The survey is quite noisy. It's not that many people.
And so when I look at the longer-term trends, I still saw,
really optimistic growth in women's labor force participation in overall in 2025.
And the declines we're seeing right now, you know, some of it is that women, when they can't
find work, seem to be leaving the labor force, which just tells us they have something else
to be doing rather than being unemployed.
Whereas what we're seeing for men is that they are experiencing that time period.
as an unemployed person.
You know, I don't like to see women leave the labor force,
but I also want us to be careful about over-interpreting those movements in our modern times
because people move from out of the labor force back into employment quite a bit.
One thing that I think about a lot when we think about these issues is the cost of working.
For families with young children, how does the cost of childcare change the calculation
about whether a second parent works as well as how much?
they work. This has been an ongoing problem for families for decades, which is that childcare is
extremely expensive. And some people shrug their shoulders and say, okay, well, then women can just
stay home. The problem for women is if you've got a young child at home, the math might work out
such that at least for your budget this month, your best bet is just stay home and
avoid all the costs of working.
The problem is that the benefits of work are not just the wage you're making today,
but the skills and experience you're developing that will impact your wage in the future.
So what women are giving up when they stay home because child care has become so expensive,
because gas to get to work has become so expensive,
because all the food that they need to buy because they're not at home to make food has become so expensive.
So they say, well, I'm just going to stay home and I'm going to make some of the stuff myself.
I'm going to look after my kids myself.
What happens is when they try to go back to work, they find that they've been set back and they're going to earn a much lower wage.
So the cost is it can be quite big.
And we know that women often, it's described as women paying to work, right?
I'm going to pay now to work today because I know 10 years from now,
now, it's going to pay off. So women are constantly asked to invest in their career with, you know,
facing a high cost of work. And what happens is when budgets get too tight in families,
they can't afford to make those investments. And I just want people to think about that,
because who's going to pay the price for this? It's not even just the women today who are stepping
out of the labor force right now. It's where they're going to be in five or ten years.
I mean, there's also the question of flexibility can consider here because during the pandemic, so many employers, including ours, learn that people could work remotely or with more flexible schedules. And now we're seeing many companies bringing workers back into the physical office, the workplace. How important is that shift when we think about this for women, particularly when I think about women who have children or perhaps even other caregiving responsibilities for a loved one?
This is definitely going to impact women more than men because women have, even prior to the pandemic,
but more likely to seek out flexible work arrangements because those flexible work arrangements,
as you said, allow them to balance their work with their family caregiving needs in a way that helps keep costs down.
And also keeps costs like commuting costs down so they're not spending as much time on the road
and they can do more for their employer, more for their family.
I think what we saw in particular was, as we saw an explosion in work from home,
that really helped push college-educated women with younger kids into the labor force.
Although I should actually clarify, it's more that it keeps them in.
When you're able to work remotely, not even every single day, but a few days a week,
It removes some of the burdens and stresses and allows women to keep working, even as they face challenges with child care, challenges with their family's needs.
It gives that little bit of buffer, and so we see fewer exits of women with young kids.
I also, Betsy, want to talk about the demand side of this.
We have women potentially leaving the workforce at the same time that some female dominated industries are losing jobs.
So how do we distinguish between women who are choosing to work?
plus and women who are having fewer opportunities to work?
You know, these things go hand in hand.
You know, supply and demand come together.
It's kind of like asking whether it's the top blade or the bottom blade of a pair of scissors
that cuts the paper.
You need them both to be working.
So why do women choose to step out?
Well, they might choose to step out because the opportunities aren't good enough
to keep them there.
And I think whether women are choosing or whether they've been pushed out
because they were working in government and lost their job.
I think what we're seeing is a situation in which we do not have a robust enough job creation environment.
We do not have a robust enough set of labor market opportunities to have as many women make the choice to work as we're making that choice a year ago.
We've been speaking with Betsy Stevenson, economist at the University of Michigan.
Betsy, thanks. It was great talking with you.
This episode was produced by Alina Mohamed and Karen Zamora
with audio engineering by Hannah Glovna and Robert Rodriguez.
It was edited by Sarah Handel and Ten Beat Armias.
Our director is Alejandra Marqueshance.
Our interim executive producer is Courtney Dorney.
It's Consider This from NPR.
I'm Juana Summers.
