Consider This from NPR - Five Years After Trump's "Muslim Ban"

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

Just one week into his presidency, Donald Trump announced an executive order banning people from several Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S., the so-called "Muslim Ban".This ban shut out ...travelers who were already on their way to the U.S. Visas were canceled, people were detained and sent back home, and protests ensued. Lawsuits were filed, but the Supreme Court upheld the policy.On his first day in office, President Biden reversed the ban. But five years later, hundreds of families that were separated by it are still waiting to be united. In participating regions, you'll also hear a local news segment to help you make sense of what's going on in your community.Email us at considerthis@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One week after former President Donald Trump took office, he announced an executive order banning people from several Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. I'm establishing new vetting measures to keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the United States of America. We don't want them here. This was Trump's so-called Muslim ban, a promise he had made during his election campaign. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. At the time, I was in the United States and Queens, and I was kind of sad. I heard it on the TV. I heard the speech by President Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And when I first heard it, I didn't think it would be something serious. This is Nasser Al-Muganahi. He's an American citizen from Yemen. I was thinking it's, you know, it's not going to have a lot of effect on a lot of people or on a lot of families. You know, I wouldn't think it kind of got escalated and it got serious. Amil Ganahi's wife had been in Yemen for years at this point. He had started the visa application process to bring her to the U.S. long before Trump ever took office. And now Yemen was one of the countries on Trump's banned list. I thought it wouldn't have effect in my case.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And, you know, and I thought this ban might not even take effect because it's outrage. But Al-Muganahi and his family were affected, along with tens of thousands of others. This ban shut out travelers who were already on their way to the U.S. Visas were canceled. People were detained and sent back home. Chaos erupted at airports around the U.S. Americans protested for days across the country. They have protested at airports in the Bay Area and across the nation. Thousands of demonstrators descended on Philadelphia International Airport.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Filling five different McNamara terminal locations with full-throated anger. Airlines reporting delays due to flight crews and passengers being stuck in the traffic... Lawsuits were filed against the ban. The case went all the way up to the Supreme Court, which upheld the policy. This ban remained in place throughout Trump's term. This is not what this country was built for. It's not this country what it's meant about. This country stands about welcoming and actually providing safe for every family, you know, that come here for asylum, whatever the case might be for a better life. The United States always stands for that.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Consider this. Five years after President Trump instituted the so-called Muslim ban, hundreds of families separated by it are still waiting to be united. From NPR, I'm Elsa Chang. It's Friday, March 4th. It's Consider This from NPR. On his very first day in office, President Biden reversed former President Trump's travel ban and opened the U.S. back up to people from several predominantly Muslim countries. And that afternoon, Nasser al-Muganahi heard the news on TV at home in New York City. I thought everything would be over.
Starting point is 00:03:25 All the wait would be over, separation would be over. What al-Muganahi wanted over were the years he had been forced to live apart from his wife. He's an American citizen from Yemen, but his wife, Om Al-Hair al-Azhar, has been stuck in Yemen since they married 11 years ago. For 11 years, he's tried to get a visa for her to live in the U.S. Which means 11 years of missing all the milestones, the little ones and the big ones, the birthdays, the wedding anniversaries. I've always had dreams that one of them will be celebrated under my roof in the United States. Now, getting a visa for a spouse to come to the U.S.
Starting point is 00:04:05 can take a long time under any administration, but Trump's travel ban has added years to al-Muganahi's wait. And even though the ban has been revoked, he is still waiting. We're going to explain why, but before that, I want to tell you a little more about al Muganahi and Al Azhar's story. They were from the same village in Yemen. I think I knew her by face. She'd always pass by our house.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Even now, I'd be like, do you remember me when I was a little, you know, when we were kids before this? We could have sworn we saw each other, we knew each other. It's very beautiful. Years later, they met again. El Muganahi was by then the owner of a few bodegas in New York City, and he traveled back to Yemen to visit his family. That's when he reconnected with Al-Azhar, and they got married in 2009. El Muganahi eventually had to return to New York for work, and he immediately began the visa application process for his wife. So I was like, okay, hopefully, you know, it wouldn't be that long.
Starting point is 00:05:11 In my head, I'm expecting like maybe a year. That year turned into six years. The embassy in Yemen closed due to conflict there. The case was then transferred to Egypt. And finally, in 2016, his wife got a visa interview. I was so happy. I cannot explain how happy I was. What can I tell you? It was like a dream come true. Now, Donald Trump had just been elected president at this point. There wasn't a travel ban yet. And Al-Mugunahi was thinking, my wife's visa process is finally moving along.
Starting point is 00:05:45 He hopped on a plane to Cairo for his wife's interview. And at the embassy, the officer asked his wife some questions, then told her to raise her right hand. He looked at us in both our eyes and said, hey, congratulations. Welcome to the United States. The officer said they'd have Al Azar's visa in about two weeks. But a few minutes later, he called them back to the window and said he was sorry, but there had been an administrative delay. No other reason was given.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Months passed. Al-Mugunahi watched Trump take office on January 20th, 2017. And one week later, President Trump issued the travel ban. Overnight, another surge of protests against President Trump's controversial executive order. At first, El Mugunahi didn't quite understand how this might affect his wife's case. He just kept on waiting for nearly a year and a half. And that, that is when an email arrived from the embassy offering another interview appointment for his wife. Hope comes back to him. They rush to the appointment. The immigration officer at the
Starting point is 00:06:49 window hands Al Mugunahi a letter, and it informs them that Al-Azhar's visa has been rejected because of Trump's travel ban. I was speechless. I did not know what to say. I'm a U.S. citizen. I feel like they were telling us this family can be together, you know, and I told them this is impossible. Why are we being treated as a second-class citizen? How did your wife react when she found out this news? She felt heartbroken. She's like, wow, I mean, you're an American citizen. Your whole life is over there. Why can't we be together? Al-Mugunahi and Al-Azhar remain apart today, like tens of thousands of other people whose visas were rejected under the travel ban. Now, there was some glimmer of hope when President Biden lifted the ban on his first day in office. A lot of families
Starting point is 00:07:45 thought, this is it. We can finally be reunited. But that hasn't really happened. All those people who had been shut out have now joined a huge backlog of other immigration cases. We wanted to better understand the obstacles that families like Almugunahi's still face. So we reached out to Raweda Abdel-Aziz, who's a reporter for HuffPost and covered Al-Mugunahi's case. She's actually documented 900 cases just in the last year of people who are still suffering the effects of the travel ban. In more than 100 of those cases, people reported some sort of medical hardship. And about a third of the data,
Starting point is 00:08:25 the person impacted faced more than one extreme hardship because of the ban. So this could have meant family separation and an economic loss, or they weren't able to get a loved one in time to seek medical treatment. And so these are the examples of impacts people have been feeling. And there are thousands more. And let's be very clear, the fact that the travel ban has been lifted under the Biden administration, that fact does not mean everyone who was denied a visa can now automatically get a new one, right? There's a long backlog. That's absolutely right. The State Department announced that visa applicants who were denied due to the ban could request to be reconsidered without having to resubmit their applications or pay additional fees and that a denial would not negatively impact their new applications. But like you said, a backlog of nearly half a million has since piled up and people are still waiting for a solution.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And how has the pandemic, on top of all these factors, exacerbated the backlog? The pandemic has made all immigration-related issues tenfold. A system that was already broken is beyond decimated at this point because of issues like lack of staff in U.S. consulates and embassies across the world. The embassies are struggling to not just work remotely, but also maintain national security practices. Issues like having to come in person and give in your fingerprints, medical and health checks and backgrounds. There's also just the fact that the system had already been so backlogged. And so all of the challenges that we're now seeing caused by COVID-19 are impacted not just embassies and staff here in the U.S., but literally the entire world. Dozens of immigration organizations have sent a letter
Starting point is 00:10:17 asking the Biden administration to address this backlog with more urgency. A State Department official sent us an email acknowledging the backlog and said the administration is working to speed up visa processing. Meanwhile, al-Mugunahi has sued the Secretary of State and consular officials in Egypt for, he says, unlawfully withholding his wife's visa. He now has three daughters who are 12, 10, and 3. They live with their mother in Yemen. And sure, they're constantly on the phone, they're on FaceTime several times a day, but living as a scattered family all these years has been unbearable.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I can't focus. It's making me really, you know, weak. And I don't want to give up. I want to get my voice heard. Now that I know that my voice is just one of thousands of people like me, this makes me even more sadder because I feel also what they feel, because I'm going through it. That was Nasser Almuganahi and HuffPost reporter Roweda Abdel-Aziz. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Elsa Chang.

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