Consider This from NPR - How the Trump administration stripped legal status from 1.6 million immigrants
Episode Date: December 22, 2025The Trump administration has removed over 600,000 people without legal status from the U.S. through deportation this year, according to the Department of Homeland Security.The Trump administration has... also been busy revoking legal status for immigrants who entered the country through legal pathways -- affecting at least 1.6 million people -- by canceling programs and protections like CBP One, Temporary Protected Status, humanitarian parole and student visas.That legal limbo means they too now fear the constant threat of deportation.NPR's Sergio Martinez-Beltran and Ximena Bustillo recap the largest effort to delegalize immigrants in U.S. history.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Email us at considerthis@npr.org.This episode was produced by Vincent Acovino, with audio engineering by Ted Mebane. It was edited by Patrick Jarenwattananon, Eric Westervelt and Anna Yukhananov. Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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The Trump administration is waging its anti-immigration campaign on all fronts. It's aggressively
removing people without legal status from the U.S. more than 600,000 deportations, according to
the Department of Homeland Security. That campaign has affected communities across the country.
On Sunday, NPR's Aisha Roscoe spoke with Seth Lavin, a Chicago school principal.
Yes, there have been impacts at my school. And at every school that I know there are kids who are living
in this fear, and at many, many, many schools, this is a reality. Kids crying in a classroom,
kids crying in a cafeteria and saying, what's wrong? What's wrong is that they took my dad?
What's wrong is that they took my mom? The administration is also limiting people from
legally entering the country by severely capping refugee admissions, banning travel for people from
certain countries, imposing a $100,000 fee for new visas for workers in specialty occupations,
or just last week, pausing the Green Card Lottery program, also known as the diversity visa.
And the Trump administration is working to scrap multiple programs or protections for many
people who previously entered the country legally.
The last administration led in 20 million unknown and unvetted foreigners from all over the world from places that you don't want to even know about.
No country can tolerate such a risk to our very survival.
These moves throw the lives of immigrants into uncertainty and potentially subject them to deportation.
Consider this. In under a year, the Trump administration has stripped 1.6 million immigrants of their legal status protections.
It's the biggest effort of its kind in U.S. history.
From NPR, I'm Juana Summers.
It's consider this from NPR.
President Trump's unprecedented crackdown on undocumented migrants
is very much tied to the multiple ways
as administration has revoked
the legal status of documented migrants.
My co-host, Scott Detrow, recently spoke with NPR's immigration correspondence,
Jimenez-Bustio, and Sergio Martinez-Beltron, to understand how this is happening.
Jimenez, I want to start with you.
Tell us more about this number.
It's a big number, 1.6 million immigrants.
Who's all included in that?
That number includes people who applied for and were allowed to enter the country through
various immigration programs, particularly under President Biden, parole programs,
visas, asylum, refugees. And it's important to note that this figure is an estimate. In fact,
immigration advocates say it's likely an undercount. Regardless, it is the largest effort to
delegalize immigrants who have used legal means and steps to be in this country. That's what Todd
Schulte, the president of the Immigration Advocacy Organization, forward.us, says.
These were like legal pathways. People like did the thing the government asked them to do.
And this government went and is kind of preemptively trying to revoke that.
Schulte says the Trump administration is taking away status and work authorization from as many people as possible to make their lives harder.
When asked about these concerns, DHS told NPR that, quote, the American taxpayer will no longer bear the financial burden of unlawfully present aliens, end quote.
And some of these people may have already left.
Others are pursuing other forms of legal status.
Some have been detained and deported.
Stereo, can you tell me more about what these programs are that were canceled, this?
year. Yeah, I think it's important to emphasize something that Jimena said, and you mentioned
to Scott, which is that these have been legal pathways to be in the country. There's three
programs that I think of often when talking about this issue. There's one called CBP-1. This was a
Biden-era parole program that allowed migrants to apply for appointments at a port of entry while
waiting in Mexico. Eventually, they'd be allowed into the country to pursue asylum. Now, from
23 to January 2025, more than 936,000 people were allowed in the country, according to government
figures. One of them was Grevis Suarez. He is a Venezuelan barber I met last year in
Suarez, Mexico while he was waiting for his appointment. He got in January right before Trump
took office and is now living in California. And last week was a big one for Suarez because he
finally got his social security number and work permit.
He says even though he has a work permit, he's anxious because his friends who came through CBP1 like him have gotten emails from the government telling them to leave the country or they could face deportation.
Okay, so that's CBP1, but they're also humanitarian parole programs that have been affected, right?
Right. There's also humanitarian parole for half a million people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
In order to qualify for that program, migrants needed a sponsor, a family member, a friend, or a loved one.
but that program was canceled too.
Earlier this year, I talked to Anne Valerie Lavius.
She's the sponsor of her brother, Reginald, and her nephew, Tristan.
They all come from Haiti, and she told me it's a false narrative.
People with humanitarian parole are abusing the system.
I'm sponsoring them, so it's out of my pocket.
Whatever I set up that I said I was going to do is what I did.
They live under my roof.
They have everything within my house.
There's no government aid.
There's nothing that comes for us, for my family.
Another program is temporary protected status or TPS.
This is a designation historically given to nationals of countries ravished by civil wars, natural disasters, or political instability.
As of March of this year, nearly 700,000 people that had TPS no longer have it.
The vast majority of them are Venezuelans.
Hemena, President Trump has spoken so much this year about his opposition to all forms of immigration, legal and illegal.
But these are legal pathways.
They've long existed.
Why target those?
They say they're doing it in the name of national security.
For instance, the State Department has revoked 85,000 visas of all categories,
including more than 8,000 student visas.
That's more than double the numbers of the year prior.
And the reasons the agency is giving for some of these revocations
range from DUIs to assaults and thefts.
A State Department official in a statement said,
quote, people who pose a direct threat are not wanted in the country.
And, you know, as NPR has been,
been covering this year. The State Department has also moved forward with revoking the visas
of students and others whose speech, they say, does not align with American values. And the
administration is applauding these efforts across the board. Here is White House Press Secretary,
Caroline Levitt. Having a visa in the United States is not a right. It is a privilege. And the
Secretary of State, if you are deemed contrary to our country's foreign national interests,
has the right to revoke that privilege. Meanwhile, there has been no enthusiasm,
from Congress to reform any legal pathways.
Decades of inaction in Congress
means that the administration has free reign to scrap programs
it doesn't believe serve the country.
I just want to take a moment to underscore all of this.
These are all existing programs.
You know, has anything like this happened before?
You know, the complete cancellation of all these programs
is unprecedented, and it seems like this might just be the beginning, Scott.
In fact, immigration rights advocates are bracing for more deportations
and status cancellations in 2026.
There are also thousands of Ukrainians who fled Russia's invasion and came to the U.S. under the Uniting for Ukraine program.
And they have expressed concerns, especially because the Trump administration passed it this year and resumed it a few months later.
But that scared them big time.
Also, TPS, temporary protected status for half a dozen countries is expiring next year.
And without a redesignation from the Trump administration, thousands more will lose their legal status in 2026.
And all of this is on top of hundreds of thousands of people.
deported for being in the country illegally.
That is Serio Martinez-Beltron, as well as Jimenez-Bustio.
Both of them cover immigration for NPR in a year where there is a lot to cover.
Thanks to both of you.
You're welcome.
Thank you, Scott.
This episode was produced by Vincent Acovino with audio engineering by Ted Mebain.
It was edited by Patrick Jaron Watanan, Eric Westerbilt, and Anna Yucananov.
Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan.
It's considered this from NPR. I'm Juana Summers.
