Consider This from NPR - How well did the Civil Rights Act live up to its promise?

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

The Civil Rights Act was signed into law on July 2, 1964. President Lyndon B. Johnson called it a way for America to honor its promise of liberty. But 60 years on, how well has it lived up to that promise?Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

The marchers gathered this morning on the broad lawns around the Washington Monument. At the March on Washington, more than a quarter of a million people gathered at the Lincoln Memorial in the summer of 1963. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his iconic speech. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed. Civil rights activist Cortland Cox was there that day, a founding member of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, or SNCC. He was one of many Black activists who helped organize the march. The march in Washington only took six weeks to organize. The only reason it took six weeks to organize is that Black people by that time had been going through demonstrations for three years,

sit-ins, freedom rides, and so forth, And they were sick and tired of being sick and tired. During this time, Cox was working to register Black people to vote in the South. It was dangerous work for Cox and dangerous for Black people who wanted to vote. You had a situation where across the South, Black people were not allowed to vote. And if they tried to vote, in fact, they would have to be subjected to economic and physical violence. So what we had was a group of people who thought that Black people should not be real citizens of the United States and not participate in a democracy. The right to vote was one of the many reasons people of all races gathered at the March on

Washington. They were protesting against discrimination and segregation based on race, demanding civil rights regardless of skin color. We were not organizing a historic event. We didn't have the vote. We didn't have anybody in political office. We didn't have any great economies. So all we had was protests. What we showed this country

is that there is a great desire in order to engage the citizens of the United States. The march was a precursor to the historic signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson. This Civil Rights Act is a challenge to all of us to go to work in our communities, in our states, in our homes, and in our hearts to eliminate the last vestiges of injustice in our beloved country. It was the most sweeping civil rights legislation since Reconstruction. It outlawed discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, and made tactics like literacy tests and poll taxes aimed at preventing Black

people from voting illegal. But Cortland Cox says that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 didn't fix everything. Not then or now. These things were just not landmarks that created new environments. They allowed for new opportunities, but they didn't change the total environment. What changed the environment was our willingness to continue to fight. Consider this. The Civil Rights Act was signed into law on July 2nd, 1964. Lyndon B. Johnson called it a way for America to honor its promise of liberty. But in the last 60 years, how well has the act lived up to the promise of equal treatment under the law? From NPR, I'm Juana Summers. It's Consider This from NPR. Here to talk about the impact of the Civil Rights Act is Lerone Martin. He directs the Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford

University. It has been 60 years since the Civil Rights Act was signed into law, and I'm hoping you can just briefly start by explaining how significant this law was. What did it accomplish on day one? Well, the signing of the Civil Rights Bill in 64 redefined what citizenship meant in this country. For so long, people of color had been stigmatized in America and denied citizenship, access to public accommodations, access to schools, movie theaters on an equal plane. And the Civil Rights Bill really legally transformed that, and it's a landmark legislation in American life. And I'll just point out here that this law was a long time in the making. It came after a years long movement for civil rights in the United States. Can you just take the step back,

help us understand how the law came to be and the movement of activism and protest that was surrounding it in the late 1950s and early 1960s? Yes, President Kennedy had originally put forth the legislation prior to his assassination. And on the evening when President Kennedy announced that he was going to put forth the Civil Rights Bill, Megger Evers, a civil rights worker, was murdered in Mississippi. And so the bill had already been surrounded by this legacy of violence in America, in which African American life was being snuffed out because of racism. And so the bill moves forward and there's back and forth in Congress about the bill and threats of filibusters. And after Kennedy is assassinated, President Johnson

decided that he was going to move forward with the bill in a way to honor President Kennedy. And the March on Washington in many ways was a public display purposely geared towards trying to galvanize public support for the Civil Rights Bill. And finally, when the bill went to Congress, it was passed in the House, but it was filibustered for more than 70 days in the Senate until finally the bill was passed passed, that it took a great deal of coalition building, a great deal of public persuasion, moral persuasion, and a great deal of jockeying in Congress in order to get this bill passed. And it's a bill that almost did not make it. And I think that's important for us to remember 60 years later, that the passage of this bill was not inevitable.

You mentioned, of course, the historic march on Washington. And I'm wondering if you can drill down a little bit more on what role that march played. I mean, we have all seen those iconic photos of how many people it drew to the National Mall in Washington who were mobilized by the cause of civil rights. What role do you think it played in creating a political environment where this bill that had been stymied could actually become law? It created a great deal of public awareness and not just in this country, but globally to show that there was a great deal of support for this bill. And also to show that it was a

bill that was backed by a broad coalition of the American public. It wasn't just people of color, African-Americans, but it was also white brothers and sisters American public. It wasn't just people of color, African Americans, but it was also white brothers and sisters as well. It was Protestant, Catholic, Jew, Muslim, and it was a way to show America, but also the globe about the support that the bill had and really began to shift public opinion around passage of the bill. I wonder if you can help us put this in some political context. What impacted the passage of the Civil Rights Act of President Johnson signing it into law? How on the political dynamics in this country? Well, you know, Johnson had often said privately and some of his aides, Bill Moores as well, had said that the

passage of the Civil Rights Bill and the passage of the Voting Rights Act the following year was really for the Democrats signing away the South. And in many ways, they were correct about that. We see that immediately following the passage of the Civil Rights Bill in 1964, that George Wallace received a great deal of support in the Democratic primary later that year. And also we see that Barry Goldwater was elected the nominee for the Republican party. Both of those political figures opposed the civil rights bill. And both of those figures maintained that it was against the law for the government to tell businesses or public accommodations who they had to serve. And so from that very moment, as the New York Times pointed out in September of 64,

there began what the New York Times called a white backlash. And it began to give rise to politicians who really, really capitalized on this sense of hate. So much so that Kevin Phillips, who was a well-known political appointee and political advisor for Richard Nixon, argued that the key to politics moving forward, he said, was figuring out who hated who. And I think that we see that in the rise of what was known as the white backlash in this country, and also the Republicans beginning to be the primary party at the national level throughout the South. When you think about the fact that we are now 60 years removed from

the signing of this law, how do you think about its legacy? Well, the legacy I think is that it should remind all of us about the importance of building a coalition of the willing, a coalition of folks that across race lines and class lines who believe that America should be the land of the free, where all human beings, regardless of their race, sex, creed, gender or sexuality or religion or origin, should be treated equally. And I think that, again, we have to remember that this was not inevitable, that this did not have to happen. It took people coming together and demonstrating non-violently in the streets and pressing and moving their elected officials

to vote according to the will of the people. And I think that's an important legacy for us to remember because it's very, very possible for this legislation to be clipped and rolled back and anesthetized and made anemic to the point where it no longer has any teeth. So we have to always be vigilant and remind ourselves that what it takes for such a landmark legislation to be passed. That was Lerone Martin, director at the Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute

at Stanford University. This episode was produced by Brianna Scott, Jordan Marie Smith, and Linnea Anderson. It was edited by Jeanette Woods and Christopher Intagliata.

Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Juana Summers.