Consider This from NPR - In Panama economic needs threaten to erase a way of life

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

Panama has been looking for solutions to a long-term problem. Every time a ship passes through the Panama Canal, more than 50 million gallons of fresh water from Lake Gatun pour out into the ocean. No...body ever thought Panama could run out of water. It is one of the rainiest countries in the world. But a couple years ago, a drought got so bad that the canal had to reduce traffic by more than a third - which had a huge impact on global shipping.The Panama Canal needs more water. Authorities have decided to get it by building a dam in a spot that would displace more than 2,000 people along the Rio Indio.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.orgEmail us at considerthis@npr.orgLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're standing at the edge of this beautiful river. I can see little fish swimming just under the surface. There's a small hand-carved wooden canoe floating under a tree. What does this body of water mean to you? This river is my whole life, says 60-year-old Dignabinite. She smiles wistfully under her straw hat. She grew up here on the Rio Indio in a small village in Panama called Limón de Chagres. She would play in the water while her father caught fish.
Starting point is 00:00:32 The water is so clear, so transparent, so clean, that it runs, it rises and it falls. That is harmony for me, the river. The water is so clean and calm, she says, it rises and falls. For me, it's harmony. A long narrow boat pulls up. Dignabinite and a younger man named Oligario Sireño help us climb in and we pull away from the shore. The boat pulls over to the edge of the Rio Indio and we climb up some steep stairs that
Starting point is 00:01:06 are basically carved into the mud bank. Oligario, what are you showing us? Here I'm showing you where the dam would be, he says. The Rio Indio Dam. It doesn't exist yet, but authorities intend to start building it in just a couple years. Panama has been looking for solutions to a long-term problem. Every time a ship passes through the Panama Canal, more than 50 million gallons of fresh water from Lake Gatun pour out into the ocean. Nobody ever thought Panama could run out
Starting point is 00:01:40 of water. It is one of the rainiest countries in the world. But a couple years ago, a drought got so bad that the canal had to reduce traffic by more than a third, which had a huge impact on global shipping. Consider this. The Panama Canal needs more water and authorities have decided to get it by building a dam in a spot that would displace Digno, Poligario, and more than 2,000 other people. From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro. There's been a lot of attention on loneliness lately. 16% of Americans report feeling lonely
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Starting point is 00:02:50 like sponsor-free listening, bonus episodes, early access, and more. So start supporting what you love today at plus.npr.org. It's considered this from NPR. In a wide grassy field in rural Panama, Dignabinite looks out at the spot where the Panama Canal Authority plans to build a new dam. We stand in the shade of a wild coffee tree, the fragrance like honeysuckle, wafting off branches full of white blossoms. Senora Digná, when you see this place and you think about what might happen here, what goes through your head?
Starting point is 00:03:36 I feel as if they would kill us because we wouldn't be surrounded by nature anymore. Where we see the coffee that we harvest with our own hands, we toast, we grind, and we make coffee and drink. For example, this coffee plant that we're standing by, I grab the bean, I take it, I toast it, and then that's the coffee that I have in the mornings. It would be simplistic to say this problem is all because of climate change. Climate scientists say the data point to a more complicated reality.
Starting point is 00:04:15 At the shore of another body of water, tropical birds squabble in the trees at the edge of the jungle. Lake Gatun is a freshwater reservoir created by the construction of another dam more than a century ago during the creation of the Panama Canal. My name is Steven Patton and I'm in charge of the physical monitoring program for the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute. Patton has no view on whether the much smaller
Starting point is 00:04:39 Rio Indio Dam should be built or not. What he does have is research, perhaps more than any other tropical rainforest in the world. Our data goes back to 1880 when the French first arrived to start doing their construction. One of the first things they did was to install climate stations because they knew that rainfall was going to be an incredibly important thing. As we walk down a modern metal dock, a startled iguana takes a swan dive. It just jumped off the dock into the water and climbed up on a rock.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I can see it down there now. Patton says a couple years ago, that iguana might have landed on dry dirt. Imagine, right now the water is only about two feet below the level of the dock. It was something like 10, 12 feet. We had to go down a ladder to get on the boat. And for you as a researcher, is that like,
Starting point is 00:05:32 this feels dire and frightening, or is it like, what an exciting thing to research? Whenever you see a really impactful phenomenon, there's the scientist side saying, wow, that's really fascinating. But then the other human side says, ooh, that's really bad. The drought was caused by El Nino, and scientists have not found a clear connection between El Nino and a warming planet.
Starting point is 00:05:54 But Patton says there are some strange patterns emerging. The driest years in more than a century of record keeping have been in just the last decade. So we don't know whether this is just an outlier, that it was just random, we just threw three double sixes in a row, or whether it represents the canary in the coal mine. That helps explain why Panama is looking for ways to increase the supply of fresh water to the canal. Right now we are late by six years.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Jorge Luis Quijano was administrator of the canal from 2012 to 2019. The funding for that project included half of it was for actual environmental and social aspects. What is your message to the people in the communities who would be displaced by the construction of this dam? We're going to make sure that we relocate them to a place where they can continue with their life and probably improve on that. They're in areas where there's no electricity. So one of the things that this project could probably provide is also hydroelectric power. They have no potable water.
Starting point is 00:06:57 We would have a potable water plant as well. They have a marginal lifestyle. We are happy here. We are happy here. They have a marginal lifestyle. We are happy here. We have water. We have electricity because we have solar panels. We have everything here. Back in the village of Limon de Chagres, Alejandrina Muñoz washes dishes as she prepares a breakfast of eggs, yuca, and coffee sweetened with sugarcane. Everything she cooks comes from her land or from the river.
Starting point is 00:07:35 She says fresh water from a nearby mountain spring flows right into her home and pours out of the tap. If the dam is built, what will this place be? It would be underwater, and where are we going to go? out of the tap. If the dam is built, what will this place be? It would be underwater and where are we gonna go? The canal authority told us they haven't yet decided where displaced people would be resettled. To Munoz, this is the opposite of a marginal lifestyle. She experiences abundance more than hardship.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Relatives who live in the city sometimes drive here to take extra food off her hands. There's a hand-painted sign in front of her house. And it says, And it says, As we walk through the village, most of the houses have similar signs. No a los reservoirs, no to the reservoir, they say. Dozens of community members have gathered in a shaded outdoor meeting space next to
Starting point is 00:08:35 the church to tell us how they feel. I ask the group whether anyone feels tempted by the life of luxury that the government promises. No, we won't accept it, they say. If anyone here supports the government proposal, we couldn't find them. After several people express their individual views, the group stands together and joins in a chant. Our river is not for sale.
Starting point is 00:09:02 We will defend it, they shout. This is almost to a word the same chant that urban Panamanians yelled as they shut down wide avenues of Panama City last week, protesting President Trump's effort to take the Panama Canal. The villagers say this is a smaller version of the same argument. To them, it's about sovereignty and respect. This episode was produced by Karen Zamora, Rolando Ariadda, Andrea Salcedo, Alejandro Marquez-Hanse, and Tomas Ayuso. It was edited by Courtney Dornig and Nadia Lancy with help from Alejandra Burunda and Neela Banerjee. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. And a thank you to our Consider This Plus listeners who support the show.
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