Consider This from NPR - Inside The Opening Days Of The Derek Chauvin Trial — And The Trauma It's Resurfacing

Episode Date: March 30, 2021

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin's trial began this week. He's accused of murdering Minneapolis resident George Floyd in May of 2020, when Chauvin was recorded kneeling on Floyd's neck ...for nearly 10 minutes. NPR's Adrian Florido has been covering the trial and reports from Minneapolis.In participating regions, you'll also hear from local journalists about what's happening in your community.Email us at considerthis@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Jenna Scurry has been a 911 dispatcher in the city of Minneapolis for seven years. She's never made a call like the one she made on May 25, 2020. My instincts were telling me that something's wrong. Something is not right. I don't know what, but something wasn't right. On May 25, Scurry was watching the video feed from a city camera near the corner of East 38th Street and Chicago Avenue. Police officers there had been holding a man on the ground for so long, Scurry thought there was a problem with the video. I first asked if the screens had frozen.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Why did you ask that? Because it hadn't changed. After learning the feed had not frozen, Scurry called the police sergeant in charge that day. And at the beginning of the call, you can hear her say, you can call me a snitch if you want to. I didn't know you can call me a snitch if you want to, but we had the cameras up for 320's call. Oh, did they already put him in the, they must have already started moving him. And 320 over at Cup Foods.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Okay. I don't know if they had used force or not. They got something out of the back of the squad, and all of them sat on this man. So I don't know if they needed you or not, but they haven't said anything to me yet. That call is now Exhibit 12, presented in the trial of Derek Chauvin,
Starting point is 00:01:22 the former Minneapolis police officer charged with the murder of George Floyd. Have you ever, prior to that date, made a call like that to a sergeant? No. In your job? Yeah, I have no further questions. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Consider this. George Floyd's death last May sparked a movement. His life and the way it ended after nearly 10 minutes under the knee of a white police officer became a global story. And the next chapter of that story is now being written in a Minneapolis courtroom. We'll hear more from inside. From NPR, I'm Adi Cornish. It's Tuesday, March 30th.
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Starting point is 00:02:51 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, good morning. My name is Jerry Blackwell. And prosecutor Jerry Blackwell's hour-long opening statement on Monday. He kept coming back to three numbers. 929. The three most important numbers in the case. Nine minutes and 29 seconds. That, Blackwell said, was how long police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on the neck of 46-year-old George Floyd. Nine minutes, 29 seconds. That's longer than the eight minutes and 46 seconds that was reported in the months after Floyd's death. The jury was shown video of the incident, and one juror gripped her armrest as she watched.
Starting point is 00:03:31 You can believe your eyes that it's a homicide, it's murder. Blackwell told the jurors that Floyd said he couldn't breathe 27 times, and that he was unconscious, breathless, or pulseless for more than four minutes while Chauvin continued to kneel on his neck. We're going to ask that you find him guilty of murder in the second degree, murder in the third degree, and second degree of manslaughter. Thank you. That was how the prosecution opened. As for the defense... Defense attorneys for Derek Chauvin argued that the growing chorus of bystanders that As for the defense... They're not going to help us, bro. Right. He went. They don't care. Defense attorneys for Derek Chauvin argued that the growing chorus of bystanders that day
Starting point is 00:04:10 distracted police from George Floyd, who was unarmed, not resisting, and cuffed on the ground. They're screaming at him, causing the officers to divert their attention from the care of Mr. Floyd to the threat that was growing in front of them. Chauvin's attorney, Eric Nelson, also called attention to the mix of drugs in Floyd's system. And Nelson argued that Floyd had heart disease and ultimately died from cardiac arrhythmia. All of which acted to further compromise an already compromised heart. And we should note here, the official autopsy report from a county medical examiner ruled Floyd's death a homicide.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And that report said Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest, complicating law enforcement, subdual, restrain, and neck compression. Also of note on Monday, both the prosecution and defense took pains to tell the jury this case is about this case only. Here's prosecutor Jerry Blackwell. This case is about Mr. Derek Chauvin, and it's not about all policing at all. And defense attorney Eric Nelson.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I agree with counsel for the state. There is no political or social cause in this courtroom. But of course, outside the courtroom, the case is widely viewed as a referendum on police accountability and the criminal justice system. Shaven is in the courtroom, but America's on trial. That was civil rights activist Al Sharpton at a press conference in Minneapolis the day the trial began. The law is for everybody. Policemen are not above the law. Policemen are subject to the law. And that's what's going on in this courtroom. And that's why we're here. Now, we just told you a little bit about day one of the trial, Monday. Tuesday was day two.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And among the witnesses called to the stand were several bystanders who watched as Derek Chauvin held his knee on George Floyd's neck. Reporter Adrian Florido was in the courtroom. He spoke about what he heard to NPR's Elsa Chang. So I understand that these witnesses, they also talked about what they were feeling as they watched Floyd struggle to breathe under Chauvin's knee. Can you tell us a little more about what they said and who they are? Yeah, the witnesses today included Darnella Frazier, the teenager who filmed the cell phone video of Floyd's arrest that so much of the world has seen by now. Her nine-year-old cousin also took the stand. But the day started with someone who first
Starting point is 00:06:45 took the stand yesterday, Donald Williams. He's a young man who, in the famous video, can be heard pleading with Chauvin to get off of Floyd's neck. I found his questioning by defense attorney Eric Nelson interesting because Nelson has said that he's going to be arguing that Officer Chauvin felt threatened by the crowd that gathered to watch the arrest. And Donald Williams, who was black, spent several minutes pleading with and in some instances insulting Chauvin as he pinned Floyd down. Here's the defense attorney, Eric Nelson, asking him a question. It's fair to say that you grew angrier and angrier. No, I grew professional and professional.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I stayed in my body. You can't pay me out to be angry. It was a pretty tense exchange, as was much of the questioning of Williams by the defense. Williams also testified that he called the police, on the police, to report that Floyd had been murdered shortly after the incident ended. And did you say another witness was a teenager who filmed Floyd's arrest? What did she have to say? Yeah, Darnella Frazier was 17 at the time of this incident. She and her cousin were walking up to
Starting point is 00:07:51 the Cup Food Store where it all started. When she noticed what was happening, she pulled out her phone to film. And here's what she said when prosecutor Jerry Blackwell asked her to describe what she saw. I heard George Floyd saying, I can't breathe. Please get off of me. I can't breathe. He cried for his mom. He was in pain. It seemed like he knew. It seemed like he knew it was over for him. She told the court that filming that video had changed her life. And how did Chauvin's defense lawyer handle this particular witness? A bit more delicately than he dealt with Donald Williams earlier. But still, defense attorney Eric Nelson put a lot of focus on what he has been characterizing as this angry crowd that gathered. Here's what he asked Frazier about that.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You heard various people calling the officers' names, right? Yes. And the volume of the people that were bystanders grew louder over time. Would you agree with that? Yes, more so as he was becoming more unresponsive. Meaning, Elsa, as Floyd was becoming unresponsive. She later clarified that no one in the crowd at any point threatened or attacked Chauvin, nor did he seem afraid of the crowd, according to what she saw. I mean, obviously, Adrian, this trial is going to include
Starting point is 00:09:20 a lot of technical, medical, and scientific evidence, but the prosecution here is very much going to be making an emotional appeal with their case. Can you talk a little more about that piece of it? Absolutely. The most poignant moment of the day came when prosecutor Blackwell asked Darnella Frazier how being a witness to George Floyd's death had affected her.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Listen to what she said. When I look at George Floyd, I look at my dad. I look at my brothers. I look at my cousins, my uncles, because they are all black. And I look at that and I look at how that could have been one of them. It's been nights. I stayed up apologizing to George Floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting and not saving his life. But it's like, it's not what I should have done. It's what he should have done. Meaning what Officer Chauvin should have done. He was
Starting point is 00:10:25 sitting right in front of her in court. That's NPR's Adrienne Florido. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Adi Cornish.

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