Consider This from NPR - Insurers Flee California As Catastrophic Wildfires Become The Norm

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

As climate change gets worse, California is seeing larger and more dangerous wildfires. And in response some insurers are leaving the state behind, finding the growing risk too high to pay.Host Ailsa ...Chang talks with Michael Wara, who directs a climate and energy policy program at Stanford, about the financial calculus insurers are making as the threat of climate-fueled disasters grows.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This message comes from Indiana University. Indiana University is committed to moving the world forward, working to tackle some of society's biggest challenges. Nine campuses, one purpose. Creating tomorrow, today. More at iu.edu. In August 2020, in the midst of a punishing heat wave, lightning struck California almost 12,000 times, igniting fires all across the state. And so 23 major fires. Governor Gavin Newsom said he had called in the National Guard. We declared a statewide emergency yesterday. Thousands of firefighters had already fanned out throughout the state.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Cal Fire has now ordered a mandatory evacuation for the entire town of Felton. We have seen a steady stream of cars, everyone pulling their jet skis, lawn equipment, RVs. In the mountains outside Santa Cruz, bystanders described apocalyptic scenes as flames engulfed small communities. It was like a movie. We were watching the fire just roar in, and you could hear propane tanks blowing up. We have bridges that have failed, old wooden bridges that have failed. Check out the back of this car, the glass, totally melted away. And over here, this house left in rubble. That fire, the CZU Lightning Complex fire, was one of California's most destructive on record,
Starting point is 00:01:24 killing one person and raising about 1,500 homes and buildings to the ground. It's the type of disaster that the state's largest home insurer, State Farm, might have been referring to when it said recently that it's facing, quote, rapidly growing catastrophe exposure in California. And as a result, State Farm would stop selling new homeowners policies in the state. The state's fourth largest insurer, Allstate, had already done the same. And those decisions aren't surprising to some residents in the state's fire-prone areas. We've been evacuated three or four times since 2016.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Drew owns a home in the Santa Cruz Mountains and had to evacuate during those 2020 fires. The flames actually spared his house, but he learned last month that his home faced another threat. His insurance company said they were dropping coverage. They basically told us that we were dropped because of the risk of wildfires. And when we went to go reinsure, no other insurers are apparently insuring this zip code anymore. Now, we're only using Drew's first name because he's afraid that speaking out may make it harder for him to get insurance in the future. He says his family couldn't find any company to write a policy, so they turned to the state for help. We had to go with the fair plan, which is like the California state fire plan, which is significantly more costly and doesn't cover as much.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It just becomes financially not the best decision to stay in this location. They decided they're going to sell their home, meaning they literally have to relocate in order to get affordable homeowners insurance, which was a shame because Drew loved living in the woods. There's a lot of uncertainty in terms of what we can sell the house for and how much the uninsurability of the zip code will factor into what people are willing to bid for it. Drew is not alone. In the last five years, a growing number of Californians have been unable to renew their policies. And more of them are buying that state-sponsored insurance of last resort. Consider this.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Climate change means California will face larger and more dangerous wildfires, and more insurance companies may decide that they simply can't absorb the cost of doing business in the state. From NPR, I'm Elsa Chang. It's Wednesday, June 21st. Support comes from our 2023 lead sponsor of Consider This, Capital One. With the Capital One Quicksilver Card. Details at CapitalOne.com.
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Starting point is 00:04:36 initiatives created and funded by Eric and Wendy Schmidt to work toward a healthy, resilient, secure world for all. On the web at theschmidt.org. It's Consider This from NPR. Catastrophic fires are redefining California's landscape, and now they're redefining the state's home insurance market. Michael Wara works at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment, and he says a lot of insurance companies simply can't afford the growing risk of wildfires in California. In two years, 2017 and 2018, the insurance industry in California lost the equivalent of the two decades of profits they had made prior to those years. We haven't had a repeat of either of those years since. We've had some good luck in our fire seasons, but I think everyone
Starting point is 00:05:34 is very concerned that luck could run out really at any time, and the insurers are trying to price their risk accordingly, but running into problems doing that because of the regulatory system we have. Okay. Well, I want to talk about how people are trying to allocate the blame right now. Is it only this issue of climate change? Because insurers often say that they can't charge enough to cover the risk that they are taking on specifically because of California's insurance regulations. Can you just like very briefly explain what those specific regulations are and why they pose a specific challenge to insurers right now? It's a very complicated situation, but I think to boil it down, I'd say two things.
Starting point is 00:06:22 The first is that insurance pricing in California works by looking backwards. It says, how much have you lost in the last two decades? That should determine your risk. And that isn't fit to purpose when the risks are changing and increasing quickly. The second issue is that insurers manage what they call catastrophic risk by buying reinsurance. And that's basically insurance for insurance companies. And in California, unlike in, so far as I know, any other U.S. state, reinsurance costs cannot be passed through to the insurance buyer in California. So the insurance company just has to eat that expense. And that was fine when catastrophe risk was relatively low in California, but it's less and less adequate as the risk has grown of these kind of large-scale losses of houses during catastrophic wildfire. moves by insurers like Allstate and State Farm are just negotiating tactics to get California to come to the table and revise these regulations you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I think that's one way to look at it. You know, this is a complicated regulatory negotiation that's playing out. And the regulator in California needs to make sure to get a good deal for Californians. But insurance availability is the most important climate adaptation strategy that most Americans can take part in. We need to make sure that insurance is available. Otherwise, when disaster strikes, people's most valuable assets will be lost. Well, what if California doesn't come to the table and doesn't try to change these insurance regulations? What do you think will happen? What's happening right now is State Farm is saying we don't want to grow in California anymore. But insurance policies are one-year policies.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I think the real risk is that if the state doesn't act to improve the environment for insurers in California, that major insurers like State Farm could decide not to renew all of their policies. And something that is very routine for most homeowners could become very not routine and very challenging for existing homeowners with existing mortgages and a budget that they've allocated for paying their housing costs. And I think that is something we very much need to avoid. So what needs to change in your mind in order to prevent more insurance companies from fleeing the state? I think we need to strike a new balance between how much homeowners pay for the benefits that insurance provides, given the effects of climate change in California? Well, California, you know, it already has a high cost of living. So if, for whatever reason, home insurance prices do increase, won't that just exacerbate the existing affordability problem? There's no question that it will. You know,
Starting point is 00:09:25 the home insurance costs are a relatively small part of total housing costs in California. And actually, Californians pay a relatively low amount for their homeowners coverage relative to other states. But of course, Californians face some of the highest housing costs in the country. The state has been making enormous efforts to build more housing over the last few years. And what we don't want to see happen is insurance issues interfere with that effort. So we need to make sure that new homes can get new insurance policies. And if those policies cost a little bit more, I think it's a price worth paying. That was Michael Wara from the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment.
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