Consider This from NPR - Measles cases are up and childhood vaccinations are down

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

For about three weeks in 2000, there were zero measles cases in the United States. It was declared eradicated.Fast forward to 2024, and measles cases are surging, especially in Oregon where the state is facing the worst outbreak since the early 1990s.This is happening as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that the vaccination rate among kindergartners is dropping, and more and more parents are seeking exemptions to school vaccine requirements.People are vaccinating their children at lower and lower rates. What does that mean for kids as they head back to school, and for infectious and deadly diseases like measles? For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Email us at [e-mail] more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

For kids, back-to-school means new school supplies, maybe some new clothes, and going to the doctor's office to get up-to-date on shots. Ah! I want my mommy! Don't cry, sweetie. It was just a shot. I know! Increasingly, parents are leaving that last one, routine vaccinations, off the to-do list. The CDC reported last year that the vaccination rate among kindergartners is dropping, and more and more parents are seeking exemptions to school vaccine requirements. And in August, Gallup reported that fewer Americans overall think

childhood vaccines are important compared to 30 years ago. These trends help explain why measles, a disease that the U.S. eradicated with the vaccine 24 years ago, is back with a vengeance. We had a period of about three weeks in the United States back in the year 2000 where there were zero cases of measles. That's Dr. Paul Cieslak, a medical director at the Oregon Health Authority, speaking with Oregon Public Broadcasting last week. Right now, Oregon is facing its worst measles outbreak since the early 90s. It's also seeing a record number of vaccine exemptions for school-age kids across the state. Many of the people can get out of the requirement by choosing an exemption and going through the process.

It was 8.8 percent this past February. So that's the highest we've ever seen. And that's probably enough for us to see sustained measles transmission. Consider this. People are vaccinating their children at lower and lower rates. What does that mean for kids as they head back to school and for infectious and deadly diseases like measles. From NPR, I'm Juana Summers. It's Consider This from NPR. Fewer and fewer kids are getting vaccinated. At the same time, infectious diseases like measles are surging. Here to talk about why childhood vaccinations are on the decline and what's at stake this school year is Dr. Stephen Furr. He's a family

physician in Jackson, Alabama, and the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. Welcome. Thank you. Glad to be with you. Dr. Furr, if I can, I want to start by talking about the measles outbreaks that we have been seeing this year. The state of Oregon, for example, is facing its largest outbreak since 1991. And if I understand correctly, this disease was eradicated in the United States back in 2000. So help us understand, why are measles cases surging in some states right now? Yeah, the thing you have to realize, a lot of these viral illnesses, they're all different, but measles is very infectious. And

about 94 to 95% of people either have had to have a measles infection or be vaccinated to have herd immunity. So therefore, you only have to have 4% or 5% of people to not be immunized for an outbreak to occur. So most of these outbreaks, about 86% of them have been patients who are unvaccinated, who their vaccination status is unknown. And the problem with measles, they can get severely ill. Almost 60% of measles patients under five years of age get hospitalized. So generally, children get two measles vaccines. They get one when they're 12 months of age, and then they get another one usually before they go back to school. So generally, children get two measles vaccines. They get one when they're 12 months of age, and then they get another one usually before they go back to school. So it's so important that they get both of those vaccinations in. What do you think it is that's

leading some of these parents to choose not to vaccinate their children? If I understand, most of these emerging cases of measles have been in people under 19. Is it that they've just perhaps forgotten how bad measles once was in this country? Yeah, I think that's a great point because, you know, people in this generation have been very fortunate. They've not seen a lot of these diseases, so they really don't know what they're like. So when I was growing up, my grandmother had polio, so I knew what it was like. And she had a deformed leg because of that. When they offered me a polio vaccine, I didn't hesitate to get it. And, you know, when I was in residency, we had an infection called Haemophilus influenza that often affected children. It would give them ear infections, but they would sometimes get

meningitis and they would get an epiglottitis, which is a swelling of their airway, which means they would have to be hospitalized and sometimes even intubated. Well, since that vaccine has come out, I haven't seen a case of that in almost 25 years. So I think part of it, people don't realize how severe some of these infectious diseases can be. And I think we take for granted even the flu. People say the flu is real common. It's been around a long time, but we forget how many people are hospitalized and die from the flu every year. Since the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, there has been poll after poll after poll that shows that Americans' confidence in vaccines is waning. You're on the front lines here. What do you think is behind these trends?

I think it was a lot of disruption during COVID. Offices were often closed. They couldn't get into their Fannie physician or their primary care physician. So I think a lot of it, they lost the habit of going and doing that. And now I think part of that is in our healthcare system now. They might go to urgent care for some of their acute problems rather than going to their family physician's office or their pediatrician's office so that those places, they don't think about immunization. So I think the biggest thing is to get families associated with their family physician or pediatrician where they can talk about the immunizations. Granted, immunizations, it can be very complex, both for kids and for adults. There's a lot of different immunizations that are protected against various diseases. So it's really important for them to discuss with their

family physicians what they need and what really will protect them. Another thing that I wonder about is false information that's out there, misinformation about vaccines that parents and caregivers might be encountering that gives them pause. As a physician, how do you fight that, or can you? I mean, I just talk with them and try and reassure them. I talk to them about the consequences of not getting the vaccine, that the vaccines have, of course, been well-studied. We've gone through rigorous processes.

I think some people got a little bit nervous because they thought the COVID vaccines were rushed, but actually there was probably more science in that, that actually some form of that vaccine had been around for a long time, the actual process. So it was just because we put all of our might into doing that and focusing on it that we were able to get there. And it's really a miracle that we're able to get those kinds of vaccines that quickly. So that technology, though, has been around. It's not something that's new. So I think one way you reassure them when the COVID vaccine came out, I told them, hey, I've taken it.

My mother's taken it. My wife's taken it. My mother-in-law's taken it. So if I think it's safe for them and for me, I think it's safe for you. You've mentioned a couple of reasons why people aren't getting vaccinated, the breakdown in well-care for children, but also a lack of exposure to the effects of serious viral illnesses. I'm struggling to reconcile this for myself because, I mean, as a country, we have all just had the experience of living through a pandemic where people were dying in huge numbers before there was a widely available vaccine. Do you have an explanation for how that didn't make a bigger difference in attitudes toward

vaccination? Yeah, I think you've got to realize when you look at the history of vaccinations, just like when COVID vaccine came out and everybody was thinking the uptake was going to be 80, 90 percent, I knew that wasn't realistic because we've been doing the flu vaccine for years, and we never got over 45 percent of people get vaccinated. So there is a hesitancy about vaccine in many different communities. You know, you could go back to the concern about the government and the fact that this might have been sponsored by the government and got started, and you go back to the Tuskegee

experiment. There's just some concern in communities. But the best way to get people immunized is to have their personal relationship with their family physician. And I can tell you the way I get so many people immunized is the spouse will be in with a husband and he comes in and I'm saying, do you want to get your flu shot? And he says, yes. And then the spouse, I said, do you want to get yours while you're here? And they'll say, yes. So a lot of times it's just a matter of the physician asking them. And then when they ask and have concerns, then you can talk and address about those concerns. But you know, it's really interesting because, you know, I'll see a family and the husband will have taken the COVID vaccine, the wife adamantly refuses. So if the husband's not going to convince her, the wife's not going to convince the husband the other

way around, I'm probably not. But the most important thing is just to keep that relationship with the patient. And over time, some of them will change their mind. But some of it, I think, is just denial. Denial is a protective psychological defense we all have. And you'll think everybody else will get this, but I'll never get it. We've been talking a good deal about vaccine hesitancy, but there's another factor that can contribute to lower vaccination rates that we should get into, and that's access. Because over the past few years, we've been seeing physician shortages all over this country. There have been pharmacy closures. And I have to imagine that you're seeing this where you are, too, given that healthcare infrastructure is not always as robust in rural areas of this country.

Do you think that right now it is harder for people to get vaccines, in your view? I think it depends on when you talk about it. I mean, you know, years ago, none of the pharmacists gave vaccines, so you had to go to the doctor's office. So there is more availability. I think our public health structure probably is not as strong as it used to be, where they have the ability to ramp up and vaccinate a lot. But I think the coverage for kids is actually very good. Either they've got insurance or even if they don't have insurance, every state has a vaccines for children's program that they can get where they're underinsured or uninsured together. They get that totally for free. So our clinic does that. So that's sponsored through the health department,

through our state Medicaid. So even if they don't have insurance, they can get that for free. Now for adults, sometimes it can be a problem if they don't have insurance, they can get that for free. Now for adults, sometimes it can be a problem if they don't have insurance. So we would like to have something like the vaccines for adults, just like we had for kids so that we would be able to get them covered also. Some of the trends that we've been talking about in terms of childhood vaccination rates may be concerning to some listeners. So I want to ask you, as a physician, what brings you hope when you think about the role that you and your colleagues play in both keeping kids healthy, but also helping to prevent the spread of disease? Yeah, I think it gives us a good opportunity to really talk about vaccinations

because people for many years kind of took them for granted and really didn't think about what they did and what they prevented. And the ability to prevent diseases, I mean, it's amazing. We've got the ability with the HPV vaccine to give this to teenagers so they'll never have cervical cancer. I mean, that's an incredible opportunity there. So that ability to prevent disease is better than now than it's ever been. Dr. Stephen Furr is a family physician in Jackson, Alabama. And he's also the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. Dr. Furr, thank you. Thank you. Great to talk with you.

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