Consider This from NPR - More primary care doctors could begin to provide abortions

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

For decades, people seeking abortions went to specialty clinics like Planned Parenthood. But since Roe v. Wade was overturned, more general practitioners are stepping in to provide abortions.Learn mo...re about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, y'all ready to huddle? Yes. That's Dr. Stephanie Arnold. She opened Seven Hills Family Medicine in downtown Richmond, Virginia, two years ago. NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffin and Alyssa Nadwerny visited the clinic. Dr. Arnold works with a small team, a registered nurse and several medical assistants. I'm doing chronic condition management via telehealth in five minutes. At 10 a.m., I'm doing a follow-up on diabetes, and then I'm seeing a knee pain visit and an ADHD follow-up,
Starting point is 00:00:35 and then we have three aspiration abortion appointments. That's three procedural abortion appointments alongside all the other appointments. A little bit of everything today, which is very typical for family medicine. In the doctor's office, there is a follow-up for a patient with GI issues. So your labs came back and honestly are like looking pretty good. There was no evidence of celiac to explain. Then another patient comes in for gender-affirming care, gearing up to start testosterone. But I think I mentioned that there's like kind of two extremes on the dosing approach, fast track or the scenic route. We're going in the middle. Yeah. All right. Providing all sorts
Starting point is 00:01:16 of care, gender-affirming care, and all aspects of reproductive health care, including abortion, are part of the philosophy of Dr. Arnold's clinic. She started her practice a few months after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. Many of the abortions provided here are done with medication. The first pill people take is mifepristone. So this is the mifepristone. You get a box. There's six in a box. And so they take this here. The second medication is mesoprostol, which patients get to take home with them. And the staff follows up with all abortion patients to find out how they're doing. Hey there, this is Katie. I'm just calling from the doctor's office. I wanted to try again to check in with you about how you're feeling. Anti-abortion rights activists
Starting point is 00:02:01 oppose primary care doctors like Dr. Arnold providing abortion care. Dr. Christina Francis, an OB-GYN in Indiana who runs the American Association of Pro-Life OB-GYNs, says abortion is nothing like managing a chronic condition like diabetes. Chemical abortion drugs end the life of my fetal patient, so that in and of itself makes it different from a diabetes drug. But also the complications related to a diabetes drug are not going to require an expertise that's outside of the skill set of a family medicine physician to manage. But Dr. Stephanie Arnold points out the American College of OBGYN says any clinician who can screen patients and provide or refer for follow-up care can safely
Starting point is 00:02:46 provide medication abortions. As Arnold sees it, abortion has been separated from other kinds of care for political reasons, not for medical reasons. It's just important to me to like fight back against that stigma. There's, you know, no reason for this care to be siloed. It's very much a part of all the other care that I'm giving. I don't feel like it's any different than my management of chronic pain or endometriosis. This is just like a routine part of my day. Consider this. For decades, people seeking abortions had to go to specialty clinics like Planned Parenthood,
Starting point is 00:03:23 sometimes with people opposed to abortion protesting outside. But since Roe v. Wade was overturned, a movement to take abortion out of its silo and integrate it into everyday primary care has gained momentum. From NPR, I'm Juana Summers. It's Consider This from NPR. NPR's Selena Simmons Duffin dug into the trend of more and more family doctors beginning to provide abortions. And she explored how abortion care got separated from other care in the first place. She takes it from here. Imagine a young woman makes an appointment with her family doctor. She has some abdominal pain and some other symptoms she wants to get checked. Her doctor says, why don't we just run a pregnancy test just to be sure and it's
Starting point is 00:04:21 positive. That's Dr. Sheila Atayi, a family doctor in Sacramento, California. After a pregnancy test just to be sure and it's positive. That's Dr. Sheila Atayi, a family doctor in Sacramento, California. After a pregnancy test comes back positive, then you kind of like go through that like options counseling with them. The options include continue the pregnancy and schedule a prenatal visit or end the pregnancy and get an abortion. Both are available right there in the same clinic. For some people, they know right away. For some people, I've seen them week after week to support them through whichever route they choose. Atai fought hard to fully integrate abortion into the clinic where she works. She says for a long time, clinic administrators weren't convinced. Then Roe v. Wade was overturned in the Dobbs decision.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I was like, listen, we need to do these things. And they were like, yes, you're right. And like everyone was kind of like emboldened, right? Like after Dobbs in the blue states. In Fort Collins, Colorado, family medicine doctor Ben Smith can relate. There was an all hands on deck mentality that happened after Dobbs, where there was, you know, an incredible kind of surge of interest and willingness and a sense of capacity. NPR heard similar stories from doctors in Michigan, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. Some of these states have also loosened regulations, like getting rid of waiting periods. In Smith's primary care clinic, they don't do many abortions, about one or two a month,
Starting point is 00:05:41 but he says even that small number can make a difference, since Colorado has become a destination for people traveling from states with abortion bans. Every abortion that we do in primary care becomes a space for a more nationally facing organization that can accommodate someone who is traveling from Texas, from Florida. There isn't a lot of data yet on exactly how many internal medicine or family medicine doctors are beginning to provide abortion in primary care, but there is some evidence that the trend is growing. A recent study found a surge in applications to programs that train primary care providers on abortion. Some have online resources. This training video shows a doctor talking with a patient about what plans they have for getting pregnant and using different kinds of birth control.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I am here for you to talk about any of the different options. And also, if you do get pregnant and you don't want to continue the pregnancy, I have pills for that, too. Great. Thank you. No problem. Okay. So let's go back to talking about your diabetes. There are barriers for clinics, including stigma and administrative hurdles, like the FDA's rules for prescribing abortion pills, says Elizabeth Janniak. She's a professor at Harvard Medical School who co-leads EXPAND, one of the training programs. She says those barriers help explain why the portion of primary care doctors offering abortion is quite small. But one thing that I think is really important to remember
Starting point is 00:07:05 is that even if we were to be really conservative and say 5%, there are so many primary care doctors in this country. So we're talking thousands and thousands of providers. The federal government estimates there are more than 250,000 primary care physicians in the U.S. That's more than six times the number of OBGYNs. And Janayak points out nearly 40% of U.S. counties's more than six times the number of OBGYNs. And Janayak points out nearly 40 percent of U.S. counties have no OBGYNs, which means there are reproductive health gaps to fill. There have long been family doctors who provided abortion and advocated for access,
Starting point is 00:07:37 but it hasn't caught on like this before, says Mary Ziegler, a law professor at UC Davis who's written extensively on the history of abortion. Back in the 50s and 60s, she says, abortions generally happened at hospitals, but not all hospitals offered them, often for religious reasons, and access across the country was uneven. So in the 70s, abortion rights groups began focusing on the opening of freestanding abortion clinics. On one hand, she says, the clinics did expand access. began focusing on the opening of freestanding abortion clinics. On one hand, she says, the clinics did expand access. On the other hand, they physically and symbolically isolated abortion from other
Starting point is 00:08:13 health services and made them easier to stigmatize, made it easier for abortion clinics to be protested and, you know, made it easier to argue that abortion was very different from other forms of health care. For years, a key anti-abortion strategy was to target those clinics with regulations known as trap laws that mandated a certain width of hallways or required doctors to have admitting privileges at hospitals, for instance. Here is Ziegler. Trap laws combined with the rise of clinic blockades and clinic protesting and even violence against abortion doctors, you know, led to a pretty precipitous decline in the number of physicians who were either trained to perform abortions or willing to perform abortions.
Starting point is 00:08:53 The fact that more and more doctors are signing up to train on integrating abortion into primary care is a sign that the stigma is changing, she says. Dr. Christina Francis, an OB-GYN in Indiana who runs the American Association of Pro-Life OB-GYNs, does not think the regulations that have separated abortion from other kinds of health care were just political. In general, the abortion industry has been actually largely under-regulated, not regulated as stringently as hospitals. She also says that family medicine doctors don't have the specialized training that OBGYNs do to provide reproductive health care, and that includes abortion, which she opposes. I'm not saying that family medicine physicians are not good physicians, they certainly are, but their training is not the same as OBGYNs in these kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:09:41 She says the trend concerns her. She does not consider abortion essential health care for women. Many organized medical groups disagree with her. The American College of OBGYNs says any clinician who can screen patients for eligibility can prescribe medication abortion safely as long as they themselves can provide or refer patients for follow-up care as needed, usually a uterine evacuation. From the patient perspective, Liz Johnson has had two different abortion experiences. She's a graduate student in Pittsburgh getting her master's in social work. Years ago, she had an abortion at a specialty clinic.
Starting point is 00:10:23 It's honestly, like, I think it can feel very, like, impersonal and fast and, like, procedural, like, da-da- like da da da da da you know. In October 2022 she had an abortion with her primary care doctor. She liked that her doctor already knew her and her medical history. I really appreciated like the personal touch of like being able to like text to check in and stuff like that. So it went really smoothly to the point I can't even like elaborate like no problems. Johnson describes herself as an open book. More and more patients have been willing to speak publicly about their experiences with abortion. But that openness isn't always present among the primary care clinics that have recently begun to provide abortions. In Sacramento, Dr. Sheila Itahi says after the clinic she works for started to provide abortion,
Starting point is 00:11:08 We weren't allowed to advertise that we do it because they don't want that attention. Attention that might come with protesters or threats from people who oppose abortion. Itai says she gets it, but she also finds the secrecy frustrating. If we act in fear, how do we expect anything to be changed? If we, like, are hush-hush about all these things, how do we normalize them as health care? Harvard's Janieck says this may be evidence of the need for broader cultural change. But just because, right now, primary care providers don't have abortion on their lists of services or on their websites, doesn't mean, she says, they'll never get
Starting point is 00:11:46 there. That was NPR's Selena Simmons Duffin. This episode was produced by Matt Ozug and Brianna Scott. It was edited by Diane Weber and Courtney Doherty. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Juana Summers.

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