Consider This from NPR - Race And The Capitol Riot: An American Story We've Heard Before

Episode Date: January 8, 2021

In 1898, white supremacists in Wilmington, N.C., led what is known as the only successful coup ever to take place on American soil. They overthrew the government because Black leaders there had recent...ly been elected by Black voters, explains Vann Newkirk, who wrote about that day for The Atlantic.In some important ways, the attack on the U.S. Capitol this week was also about race. NPR's Audie Cornish speaks to Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, professor of African American studies at Princeton. Vann Newkirk spoke to producer Brianna Scott. In participating regions, you'll also hear a local news segment that will help you make sense of what's going on in your community.Email us at considerthis@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You have to go back 122 years to find the story of America's only successful attempt at a coup. Yeah, so on November 10th, 1898, there was a race riot and coup in the city of Wilmington, North Carolina. Van Newkirk of The Atlantic has written about that day. In Wilmington, which was seen as a relatively progressive place, recently enfranchised Black voters had elected Black city leaders. In the newspaper there, a Black newspaper called The Daily Record run by Alexander Manley, would run a couple of editorials speaking out against lynching and speaking out against the myth that Black men were sexually violent and deviant against white women. Following those editorials, which were published in the run-up to an election,
Starting point is 00:00:51 white supremacists targeted the newspaper. And used it as a pretext to burn down the Daily Record. And then they continued to burn down and lynch Black folks' homes and Black people in the city of Wilmington. And it culminated in them actually overthrowing the local government and installing a white supremacist government in the city, which was in the largest city in North Carolina. What happened in Wilmington, North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:01:17 with white Americans moved to violence at the notion their country was being taken from them, was seen as a harbinger for the ensuing decades of Jim Crow. Van Newkirk thought about that coup this week, watching a mostly white crowd storm the U.S. Capitol, trash the place, and for the most part, walk right out the same doors they came in. It's easy to let our guard down and say this was failed, that the insurrection didn't work,
Starting point is 00:01:43 that now this particular brand of Trumpism will recede into the darkness. But there were enough things that were resonant with 1898 to make it very uncomfortable. And I'm not sure exactly how future generations will look at what happened this week, because I'm not sure who the victors are yet. Consider this. There's been only one successful coup on American soil, and it was about race. In some important ways, this week's attack on the U.S. Capitol was as well. From NPR, I'm Adi Cornish. It's Friday, January 8th. This message comes from NPR sponsor Driftwell. Sip into relaxation with Driftwell, an enhanced still water beverage with magnesium,
Starting point is 00:02:34 a hint of blackberry lavender flavor, and L-theanine. Designed to help you relax and unwind, Driftwell is a new way to cap off your day. LifeKit is always here with tips about personal finance and health, but also for those tough discussions, like what to tell your kids when the news gets scary. Listen now to the LifeKit podcast from NPR. It's Consider This from NPR. One of the more striking videos to emerge from the insurrection of January 6th was taken by a reporter for the Huffington Post. A single officer stands in a doorway in the U.S. Capitol facing off with a mob of rioters.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He has one arm outstretched. He's gesturing for them not to come through the door. And with his other arm, he can be seen reaching for, but not drawing, his gun. The officer is black. The mob he's attempting to prevent from entering is mostly male and appears to be mostly white. They advance slowly, and the officer backs away. He picks up a baton from the ground, swats it in their direction a few times, but they keep coming, backing him up several flights of stairs. And he turns around, takes the stairs two at a time, shouting his location into his radio.
Starting point is 00:04:02 As they advance towards him up the stairs, he turns around a couple of times, hand on his weapon, but keeping it holstered. This was the moment, according to the reporter who shot the video, Igor Bobik, when the mob first entered the Capitol building near the Senate chamber. And when this video emerged online, a lot of people who saw it wondered, what if the racial roles here had been reversed? What if a white officer was being backed up several flights of stairs by a mob of black men? No one can tell me that if had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, there wouldn't have been, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol. We all know that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And it is unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. That was President-elect Biden speaking on Thursday. Also on Thursday, former First Lady Michelle Obama released a statement in which she said, quote, What if these rioters had looked like the folks who go to Ebenezer Baptist Church every Sunday? What would have been different? I think we all know the answer. I have to say the images will be burned into my memory for the rest of my life. Former Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson, whose great-grandfather was born a slave in southwest Virginia,
Starting point is 00:05:36 spoke to NPR on Friday about what stuck with him from the events of January 6th. The two most shocking images were a hangman's noose on the western front of the Capitol, a hangman's noose, and the Confederate flag flying on the U.S. Capitol. We fought an entire civil war to prevent exactly that. And on the question of how rioters were allowed to infiltrate the Capitol in the first place, Johnson told NPR that could have and should have been prevented. Four years ago, I had overall responsibility for the security of President Trump's inauguration. It does seem clear to me that this could have been prevented if properly anticipated. You can secure the grounds of the U.S. Capitol if you know what to expect and anticipate.
Starting point is 00:06:31 We still don't know everything about what kind of expectations security officials had for January 6th or why certain plans were or were not made. Democratic Congresswoman Maxine Waters told L. told LA Magazine that her office spoke to the Capitol Police chief ahead of the Save America rally. And they were told that security needs had been anticipated and that everything was under control. Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said her office was told the same thing. Police Chief Stephen Sund is resigning, effective January 16th. I think that is obvious that if the protesters were Black or if the protesters were, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:26 protesting police brutality, a U.S. war, or something like that, that they never would have been in the position to siege, lay siege to the Capitol in the first place. That's Kianga Yamada-Taylor, professor of African American Studies at Princeton. We spoke this week about what she was thinking watching the events of the week unfold. So this violent insurrection fell on the same day that a black man was elected to represent Georgia in the U.S. Senate. So how did you process that happening at the same time? Well, I think it's a demonstration of what has continued to happen in this country, which is there is a deep political polarization. And what that looks like is that you have the growth and confidence of the right that was sort of culminated yesterday. But you also have the growth and confidence of the left, which we saw the culmination of really in the summer's protests that Joe Biden then benefited from by winning the presidency.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But we saw it reactivated again in the Georgia Senate election. And so both things are happening simultaneously. And I think part of that is because there is an enormous political vacuum in this country. And in some ways, there's a race to fill it. And I think the left has a problem in that we lack the kind of political apparatus that the hard right has through the Republican Party. party. In what way? I mean, when you look at this past election, someone might say that the Democratic Party has a really strong apparatus right now. Well, it remains to be seen because the electing these two people and flipping the Senate to the Democrats doesn't in and of itself change these dynamics. What matters is what they do with it. Are the
Starting point is 00:09:27 Democrats going to continue down this road of bipartisanship, of trying to work with an almost openly white supremacist Republican Party, or are they going to actually assert their new authority is the big question, not just can they win the election. Democrats have shown that they can win elections, but what they do with the political power that has been bestowed to them is always the question. Some of the fallout from this week will be a lot of hand-wringing about why people behave the way they did and how to move forward. What's the response to the instinct by many to say, look, in order for the country to heal, it's going to mean having conversations,
Starting point is 00:10:10 having conversations where you don't call the Republican Party white supremacists. What's your response to that? There can be no moving forward or healing without the truth. And we have got to stop playing this game of these are just random individuals, there's no culpability, there's personal responsibility. And we have to recognize the truth for what it is. Donald Trump incited a riot at the Capitol of the United States, all but went to the Capitol himself and engaged in this kind of violence. At some point, those who are responsible for this concentrated within the Republican Party and concentrated around its periphery must be forced to accept responsibility for this. There needs to be some level of political punishment delivered to these people
Starting point is 00:11:15 through expulsion or whatever the mechanism is, because this is the classic definition of terrorism, using violence to produce a political outcome that you desire. And so to just say we need to turn the page or we need to shift the focus somewhere other than the parties responsible for this contributes to the problem that we are witnessing right now. Kienge Yamada-Taylor, professor of African-American studies at Princeton. Speaking of political punishment, it seems increasingly likely that the president will be impeached by the House of Representatives. We know that we have limited time, but that every day that Donald Trump is president of the United States is a day of grave danger. Catherine Clark of Massachusetts, the assistant House speaker, told CNN Friday that the House could take up articles of impeachment as soon as next week. That comes after the Wall Street Journal editorial page, a place where the president has enjoyed a lot of support over the years, called for him to step down. So we can use procedural tools to get articles of impeachment to the floor for a House vote
Starting point is 00:12:37 quickly. The House is under Democratic control. They would start the impeachment process. It's the Senate, under Republican control, where the president's last impeachment died, with less than the required two-thirds of senators voting to remove him. As we record this on Friday afternoon, no Republicans in the Senate have made any public statements expressing opposition to the president's impeachment for a second time. You're listening to Consider This from NPR. I'm Audie Cornish.

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