Consider This from NPR - The Strait of Hormuz is open, what risks remain?

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

The Strait of Hormuz is one of the global economy’s major arteries. It had been closed to most commercial traffic for about 6 weeks up to today.The reopening is good news for hundreds of ships that... have been stuck. But questions remain about the safety of the passage. Questions, like how many underwater mines are still out there? Or what happens if the ceasefire falls apart? And those questions are crucial for the people who insure these vessels. Hundreds of ships have been stuck in the Strait of Hormuz for weeks. Even though it’s now open, safety concerns remain. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at considerthis@npr.org.This episode was produced by Avery Keatley and Karen Zamora.It was edited by Barrie Hardymon and Courtney Dorning.Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:01 The narrow 100-mile gateway that fuels much of the global economy that closed when U.S. and Israeli bombs began to fall in Iran that put vital trade in a chokehold for weeks. It's now open. Iran's foreign minister announced Friday morning that the street of Hormuz is, quote, completely open, but vessels must pass through a, quote, coordinated route. Here's retired U.S. Navy Admiral James Tivridis speaking with CNN Friday morning. Certainly it's good.
Starting point is 00:00:33 But he's got questions. Well, what about those mines that might or maybe might not be in the water? Where are they? Number two, Iran says it's open. Does that mean the normal traffic separation scheme that goes right down the middle of the strait? They won't harass traffic there. Or do they mean it's open as long as you use our new Iranian track from a mariner? I'm not exactly firing up my engines.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Consider this. Hundreds of ships have been stuck in the strait for weeks, and even though it's now open, safety concerns remain. From NPR, I'm Mary Louise Kelly. It's Consider This from NPR. The Strait of Hormuz is one of the global economy's major arteries. It had been closed to most commercial traffic for about six weeks up to today. The reopening is good news.
Starting point is 00:01:46 for hundreds of ships that have been stuck. But questions remain about the safety of the passage. Questions like how many underwater mines are still out there? Or what happens if the ceasefire falls apart? Those questions are crucial for the people who insure these vessels. Marine wartime insurance for cargo and oil vessels that were stuck in the strait skyrocketed after the start of the war because of the enormous risks of passing through it. Here to help us understand what we can learn from people making the road.
Starting point is 00:02:16 these decisions is Henrietta Trays. She is co-founder and director of economic policy at Veda Partners. Henrietta Trays, welcome. Thanks for having me, Mary Louise. I'm so happy to be here. So Vita is an investment advisory consultancy firm. You work with insurers to help inform your guidance to investors. I guess my first question is the headline that's out there today. Iran says the Strait of Hormuz is reopening. How quickly do insurers react to something like that? Iran says the street is open, do insurers rush and adjust rates? They rush to read all the fine print is what they rush to do. They are going to be the ones to follow and really get a handle on exactly how many ships should be able to go through.
Starting point is 00:03:00 What's the safest route for passage? Where are the mines? They're going to be naval envoys from the United States that are provided to get these guys through. They're going to read the fine print. And the first thing they'll focus on is what the Iranian foreign minister has relayed, which is that the coordinated route that has already been announced by ports and maritime organization of the Islamic Republic of Iran is what they're declaring completely open. And that's about a third of the straight, not the full straight of four moves. And that is, of course, due to the mines and the other military blockades that have been put up since February 28th.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Right. Okay. So important to pay attention to the fine print. Does what you are hearing from insurers today align with this? headline that the street is reopening? It aligns with the idea that there's going to be more flow. And one of the crucial questions that the insurers have been trying to answer is what the United States and Iran are going to agree to around the toll that Iran has been collecting. Outside of the pure military force and the problem of physically traversing the strait, which is the core holdup
Starting point is 00:04:08 in the straight right now, the secondary issues come from the fact that the IRGC is a declared state sponsor of terrorism. So any contact that insurers or the tankers have with Iran immediately poses problems that come with not just fines and sanctions that they would have to pay, but also real hard prison time, 20 years in prison. If anybody dies while you're trying to get through the straight on one of your vessels, you could go to prison for life. So what the core question that I have, that we do not have details on as yet, is exactly what did the United States and Iran agree to? with regards to how the IRGC is going to be defined under our international sanctions laws. That's what the insurers want to know.
Starting point is 00:04:53 They don't want to start having dialogue with the Iranians while the United States is also classifying them as a potential sanctions violation, which is a huge headache that they'll have to deal with for months, if not years to come. Fascinating. So this issue of tolls, what else are you watching for over the next, I don't know, 24-72 hours as we watch to see if this sticks? I want to see exactly how many ships come through. You know, on average, we were getting 130 ships a day at most since this war started. This particular strip of the strait that's now open has gotten 20 ships through. So the markets are responding and going gangbusters today. Crude prices are coming down on the assumption that we're going to have this massive flow of ships through the strait right now. But the insurers are the most important ones to watch again because they're going to be concerned about the safety of the crew. How can you get get through the street. How many at a time? Is the full 8-mile strip open? Is the full 21-mile
Starting point is 00:05:50 strip open? Or is it just that little portion that's able to accommodate at most 20 ships a day? That's going to be the most important piece. And then secondarily, how do they go about coordinating with Iran? Do they need to speak with them? Do they need to pay them a toll? How, if at all, are they to pay the toll? Is it going to go through cryptocurrency? Is it going to go through the Yuan, what are the Western banks going to allow? That's really the critical question for the insurers and the tankers themselves right now. How come some ships have managed to move through the street, even before this news that it's reopening? Like, why have some ships been able to get insurance and others not? The insurance is available if you want to go through. The insurers
Starting point is 00:06:30 will tell you, and they will be very quick to tell you that they know how to price war risk. They've been doing this for generations. So everybody could. get insurance, you just may be paying way more than it would be worth it? Correct. So the insurance is available. It's roughly 300% more than it was before the straight closed, but you can absolutely get it. They know how to price risk. What they don't know how to get through is the tankers comfortable with actually sending their captains and crew through the Strait of Formos. So the Lloyds of London of the world, the Chubs of the world, they'll tell you that they know exactly how to price the risk of a mine, of a missile, of a missile, of the world.
Starting point is 00:07:08 of a drone of pure risk associated with war, this is not new territory for them. What they cannot do is tell you where precisely the mines are. And so there's no price that the shippers themselves are willing to pay because they don't know where the mines are. And that to date is still true. Any particular considerations with insuring American vessels? There are different issues ensuring Western banking vessels. And by that, I would say the United States, the EU, NATO nations,
Starting point is 00:07:38 Canadians, as opposed to the Asian shippers. So Asian ships, the ones that you're talking about that have gone through, you know, we've maybe seen 10 to 14 ships go through since the C-spire was announced on a daily basis. Most of those have been Chinese ships, ships that are willing to negotiate or have a pre-existing relationship with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. And they have been willing to pay in cryptocurrency. They've paid the toll, what we were calling the Aytol, to get through the straight and that roughly equates to about $1 a barrel per ship, which means $2 million on average they've been paying to get through the straight. But that's mostly been delineated in non-Western bank exposure. So if you are China and you can do the trade with your own currency, that's all fine
Starting point is 00:08:26 and well. The United Kingdom, for example, is not trading in cryptocurrency or in the yuan. So they are not able to traverse the strait in the same way that you. Chinese ships and Southeast Asian ships have been by coordinating directly with Iran. This may be a naive question, but is going without insurance an option? To my knowledge, going without insurance is not something that any of the big tankers will do. Absolutely not. They will try different routes like turning off their radars so that they're not detectable necessarily and try to preserve a little bit of safety. But even then, I believe those ships are still insured. I'm curious to what extent you see the situation unfolding in the Strait of Hormuz as unique to the Strait of Hormuz or if there are lessons and protocols being set now that may influence other key waterways.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm thinking of the key shipping route off the coast of Yemen, the Bapalmanda up street. Man, I hope that it's contained just to the Strait of Hormuz, but you nail a critical component and a setup here. that I think is really important for global peace and trade going forward. This is now a case study of a very low-cost way to wage war against the developed nations, and the biggest one, which is the United States. So there's read-through for China and the South China Sea. There's read-through for Russia and the Black Sea. At what point do you have this asymmetric warfare where the United States has extraordinarily expensive
Starting point is 00:09:59 tomahawk weapons and a superior military capacity to bomb, as the president said, Iran into the end of civilization, but Iran was able to get the United States to ceasefire and to call off an escalation of the war purely by closing down a strait that had otherwise been free to navigate for the entire world with no tax, no control from Iran's side. And now it is, as the president tweeted earlier today, probably by mistake, the straight of Iran. And that is now giving an example that I am afraid will apply or give a template to, China, Russia, and other nations, as you mentioned Yemen as well. Henrietta Trace is co-founder of Veda Partners. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Thank you so much, Mary Louise. I really appreciate being with you today. This episode was produced by Avery Keatley and Karen Zamora. It was edited by Barry Hardiman and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer, Sammy Yenigan, thank you to our Consider This Plus listeners who support the work of NPR journalists and help keep public radio strong. Supporters also hear every episode without messages from sponsors and unlock bonus episodes of Consider This. You can learn more at plus.npr.org. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Mary Louise Kelly.

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