Consider This from NPR - Tornado recovery in St. Louis is a mess. The city blames Trump's FEMA changes

Episode Date: November 16, 2025

It's been six months since a tornado hit St. Louis and damaged more than five thousand buildings and homes. Residents and local officials say the Trump administration's new policy on federal disaster assistance has meant they have been left to do the work traditionally done by FEMA.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at [e-mail] episode was produced by Avery Keatley, in collaboration with Hiba Ahmad and Jason Rosenbaum from St. Louis Public Radio. It was edited by Sarah Robbins. Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

It's been six months since a tornado ripped through a densely populated part of St. Louis last May. More than two dozen are dead across Kentucky, Missouri, and Virginia after a storm sent tornadoes through these states over the week. St. Louis Mayor, Kara Spencer, called the devastation, quote, truly tremendous and said an estimated 5,000 buildings were impacted. The storm was nearly a mile wide and stayed on the ground for about 27 minutes. By the time it was over, it had killed at least four people in St. Louis. Lewis, it injured dozens more. It also left more than a billion dollars of destruction. That includes more than 5,000 damaged and destroyed buildings from homes to local businesses. One of the thousands of people living in the path of the tornado was Larry Powell.

I heard debris hit in the house and, you know, I recognize, you know, tornado activity. And I jumped in the bathroom across the hall, which put three walls between me and the tornado. I knew that if I had not jumped in that bathroom, I'd have been Swiss cheese. President Trump declared the tornado a major disaster a month later. That opened up critical federal assistance, and it also created an important test case for the Trump administration's new push for states, not FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to manage the response to disasters.

The mayor of St. Louis, Kara Spencer, says the city didn't yet have the infrastructure in place to respond adequately. I have been frustrated. We have all been frustrated and disappointed with FEMA's failure to drive the response, providing housing, providing food, the logistical nightmare that was immediately apparent in the hours, certainly days and weeks following the tornado that we were building as we went. Consider this. The president says he wants a local, not federal approach to managing emergencies, but having to fill

FEMA's shoes so quickly has left a significant void while people are desperate for help. We went to St. Louis to see what's happening, as communities find they're not getting the type of response from FEMA they once expected. From NPR, I'm Sasha Fiver. It's Consider This from NPR. From NPR News, this is all things considered. I'm Sasha Pfeiffer. When a tornado with winds of 152 miles an hour hit St. Louis in May,

it was one of the first major natural disasters of the second Trump administration. And it became a key experiment for the administration's new policy on federal emergency response. Under President Trump, the burden of the recovery process is meant to shift from FEMA to the state. St. Louis residents say they've become the guinea pigs in this experiment, and thousands of them feel at best in limbo and at worst abandoned. I went to St. Louis this week and drove along the path of the wreckage left by the storm. With me was Hiba Ahmed, a reporter for the local NPR member station, St. Louis Public Radio. So the tornado basically tore down the path of this road and took down all the trees in its path? Pretty much, yeah.

I mean, it is like line of stumps. You can tell the trees used to be almost a wall or a shield, and they're just all gone, sheared off. I mean, this is kind of like an iconic street in the city that is just completely changed. Yeah. Hibba reports on education for St. Louis Public Radio, and in the six months since the tornado hit,

she's been visiting and revisiting affected neighborhoods to track how residents are doing. But this right here is sold in, International Studies High School. It's a magnet school in the St. Louis Public School system, and it's home to, you know, over 300 students, but this school is closed. If you look, there's tons of boarded-up windows. You know, the district has shared that this school, probably the repairs on it are not going to be done until next December, December 2026. Wow. More than a year. Yeah. Is there any chance they won't reopen it at all?

Possibly. Tornadoes aren't new in the Midwest, and St. Louis often gets grazed by them. But the last time of tornado of this ferocity hit the city was in 1959. That one killed 11 people. This time, there were fewer fatalities, but thousands of people were and continue to be severely impacted. St. Louis's famous Forest Park lost thousands of trees, and many of the multimillion-dollar homes along the park's perimeter are still missing roofs. But the tornado nailed the northern section of the city the hardest, areas that are majority black, and that has exacerbated. What were already severe local inequalities.

Look at that one. That's a huge brick apartment building. Almost every window boarded up. You can see a toilet. The entire bathroom is exposed to the outside. There once was a garage, maybe a home or something here. I am shocked that this is so much, so many months after the storm, and it just feels like it's been locked in time.

This church, the stained glass. Oh, it was all shattered. Again, six months later. The glass is still out. And they're entering winter. Hibba and I drove slowly along Enright Avenue. Up close, the damage was even more revealing. I mean, this one is even hard to explain.

The entire side of the house is missing. You can see the stairs case leading from the first floor to the second floor. Roof gone. There's a lamp that's still sitting there. Somehow it didn't follow. That's absolutely amazing how tornadoes work. Front door, mostly gone. front porch mostly gone second floor gone piles of brick this is a neighborhood of residents who

primarily own their homes they've been here a long time and many of them want to rebuild um and that's why you see a lot of the boarded up windows you see the piles of bricks uh here's scaffolding on a home wow they've made a lot of progress on this home so if i can just give you an idea this side of that this entire wall of this home was gone. And they've fixed it. Yeah. But across from them, these houses look I mean,

they need a ton of repair. It's going to be a lot of money. Hard to know how many of these will eventually come back. We met Larry Powell, a Marine Corps veteran, on the uprooted sidewalk in front of his property. I'm sorry this happened to your house.

I am too. This was going to be my retirement home, before I go to the Marine Corps boot camp in the sky. He said he's better off than some of his neighbors who didn't have insurance, but FEMA made it difficult for him to get financial help. You said FEMA's been disastrous. Why? FEMA has not offered any assistance.

Numerous people have applied to FEMA, and they were declined. And they have you jumping through so many hoops. The chief recovery officer for St. Louis, a position created after the tornado, is Julian Nix. He says a lack of critical services caused lots of confusion. FEMA didn't do door-to-door knocking. They did not have their typical operations where people do door-to-door to reach. So there are some people who didn't come into our disaster assistance centers. We know that. We also know that there are a bunch of people who did, and they got frustrated with the paperwork and the process. According to Nix, the layers of applications and paperwork required to get assistance caused some residents to quit the process.

entirely. You have to bring reimbursements of all your receipts and things like that. For people impacted by a tornado, you're not tracking receipts. Another problem he highlighted is that documentation is more difficult for people whose home was passed down to them by family members. Think about taking a family that makes less than $40,000 a year who is uninsured, and then you go tell them after they just lost generational home that they inherited, that, hey, you need to provide more insurance paperwork, or hey, this title still has your grandmother's name on it. And because of that, you're not eligible because you're not the title owner. FEMA has approved assistance for more than 9,300 people in St. Louis, but those relief funds haven't been enough. And Mayor Kara Spencer says

the city didn't have enough time to develop a disaster response while it was in the middle of a disaster. There is a huge gap in what residents need and what we've been able to provide. That is unequivocal, just an enormous, a gulf of need that we have been unable to meet at this time. We have secured individual assistance from FEMA of over $50 million that have gone directly to residents, not nearly enough to make their lives whole, their homes whole. NPR and many other media outlets have done reporting on FEMA over the years that exposed waste, inefficiency, and bureaucracy at the agency. Earlier this year, President Trump promised reform.

We want to wean off of FEMA and we want to bring it down to the state level. Trump said in June that FEMA would immediately, quote, give out less money to states recovering from disasters. The agency's overall capacity was depleted after Doge cuts eliminated a third of its staff. We reached out to the Department of Homeland Security, which manages FEMA to ask about the new policy, but we haven't heard back. Mayor Spencer questions the logic of having every local government be disaster ready. argument would be that as a nation, we would be better off, more efficient and certainly more effective if we centralize and share the resources and expertise across the nation for very unusual events, rather than saddling every single municipal government to being able to respond

to what may or may not happen in the lifetime of each of those cities. As Hibba and I drove along the 23 miles of the tornado's path, I asked, what it's been like living through a test case. The administration wants to shift responsibility away from FEMA to states and cities. How is that going for St. Louis? I mean, you know, honestly, Sasha, in the early days of this storm, the city did not have the infrastructure to be able to respond to a disaster like this. And they've been really open about that.

Mayor Kara Spencer, you know, she was in office for maybe just over a month when the storm hit. And there were not emergency protocols to be able to deal with this level of devastation. So it was the local nonprofits that stepped in. And these are nonprofits that are not trained in disaster recovery. But they stood up, you know, doing what they could to stack some of these bricks or clear the sidewalks or clear the tree debris just so that people could just feel a little sense of normalness. Could it be that once that system gets running? and cities learn how to do this, it will work, but because St. Louis is one of the first,

they're really having to, they have a steep learning curve? It could be, absolutely. But it feels as though, you know, do you need a natural disaster to happen first before you realize what type of infrastructure you need to be able to respond?

And what if the natural disaster is something like this where it takes out homes completely? Hundreds of homes, maybe more. The scale of this is actually hard to believe. It's just, a wasteland in a major American city six months after a storm came through.

Oh, there's a resident who's... And living in a tent in front of their house. Mattress. Wow. Another tent. People are tenting in their front yards. Yeah. Feels like we're in that uncomfortable between stage

where the federal government is trying to figure out how to do it better. And meantime, we have a city in great need. And new approach hasn't quite figured out yet. Exactly. And in the meantime, you know, it's the local communities that have to step in and fill that gap, which they're really not equipped to do. Hibba and I stopped again to talk with resident Kim Holt. She and her husband Eli are trying to hold on to the home they bought in 2011. We have put a lot of work in it. This is almost like the second time it's been

renovated. It's just that at this point, we didn't intend on doing the roof if we were going to do a renovation again. Their roof was torn off during the tornado. Their home suddenly opened to the sky. We had to get a whole roof put on first and then gut out the inside. Holt said they applied for FEMA assistance but were denied. So they turned to city programs. But that came too little, too late.

Months after the storm hit, she finally got a call back about having her roof tarped. I said, you've got to be kidding me. I said, you know when the storm was, right? why did it take you three months after I applied to call me as if you think we're still standing in the same position? We were blessed not to be, but how do you think that's possible? President Trump promised to phase out FEMA by the end of this year and give it a much smaller role in responding to disasters.

St. Louis residents like Kim Holt and Larry Powell have seen what that means and tell me they feel like they're fending for themselves. They're doing what they can before winter comes. This episode was produced by Avery Keatley in collaboration with Hibba Ahmed and Jason Rosenbaum from St. Louis Public Radio. It was edited by Sarah Robbins. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Sasha Pfeiffer. Want to hear this podcast without sponsor breaks? Amazon Prime members can listen to Consider This sponsor-free through

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