Cosmic Brilliance - EP49 - Wow! Who Created Hell & Why - Not what you think! w/creators, Apollymi M. & Dr. Amir - Part 1

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

This show STARTS with AMAZING CURRENT UPDATES that you will not hear on news channels!!! (Don’t worry – ends positively.) When Apollymi first asked me three years ago if I would do a show on this topic, I said, “Hell No!” In just these last couple of months up to present day mid-April 2025, openness to reformation is occurring, both on Earth's top-side and in the Underworld. HUGE changes involve major clean-up and personal accountability auditing by Source of All That Is. My two creator guests, Apollymi Mandylion & Dr. Amir Jahangiri, wish to clear up fear-based distortions that have previously been taught about the Underworld and/or Realms of Hell. Both have first-hand factual knowledge to share with you, not just myths! Discover the two common-sense purposes of Why Hell was created, Who created it, and many more interesting facts in this series. I am dedicated to practicing the art of neutrality and respectful knowledge gathering. I believe it has been rare that we can obtain transparent, educated facts about these realms. So, this is offered in the spirit of respect and neutrality, allowing you to make informed choices, both while in body and after “crossing over," by clearly understanding free-will rights.

to Cosmic Brilliance, folks. Today we welcome back both creators that are dragons and human bodies, Apollamy, Mandelian, and Dr. Amir Janjiri to discuss a very controversial subject, and often shied away from by people. My guest wished to clear up misinformation about the facts and different soul experiences of what is referred to in the kingdoms and realms of hell. and how that knowledge may assist you in understanding the wide variety of afterlife options you may have once you drop the body to cross over. For instance, did you know that the source of all that is after creating its very first universe, which all of you have heard about in our first show with Apollomene that's based on the law of one, decided the very next thing it was going to create was the realms of hell.

So what may be surprising to many of you is that both my creator Dragon Guess have actually been to the realms of hell. Apollomene will explain her important job and positive influence there, and Dr. Amir in a previous show briefly mentioned that he had been in contact with 72 kings of the infernal realm, which I believe is the kingdom within the hell realms. So I would first like to share a very short story of how this came about. As I vetted and got to know Apollo me several years ago, she asked me, I would like to do some shows on the truths of the realms of hell because it is one of the most misunderstood realms. And there's a lot of misinformation about that. At that time, I said, hell no, people already have so much fear that listening to a show on that topic, may trigger them more, especially with all the different religion, religious programming,

et cetera. So since that time, time is past, much has happened, which you are about to hear amazing updates that you will hear nowhere else that have been occurring these last couple weeks and month. So I have decided in the spirit of neutral fairness, something I'm practicing, neutrality to honor Apollamy's wish because it is time for her to reveal her knowledge of these realms due to the fact of what is going on in the

world around that everyone's noticing the crumbling of the old corrupt systems and corporations that have been infiltrated. Now these creators before you in human bodies that you see today not only protect humanity and Earth herself, but

are key players in creating changes in this beginning of the golden age that we are entering in now, which is geared toward an age of transparency and an age of reformation on all levels. And that includes hell itself. So our treasured guest, Dr. Mir has also been invited as the creator of this matrix to add to what Apollomy shares. So I imagine this will be three to four parts at least because there's a lot of information and fascinating stories to share. So welcome back both of you and thank you so much in your busy schedule. Thank you very much. It's an honor to be in your presence and I'd like

to extend the warmest greetings to our wonderful audience. This is all for their benefits. I hope that we have a enjoyable and beneficial conversation together. Thank you. Yes. Okay, Apollomese. So Let's start with a bang and have you share the latest updates or battles, whatever you can share, that have occurred in these last couple weeks or month, and the auditing that is occurring also that we creators requested. So please go ahead and feel free. And it's where to start. I guess we'll go with the biggest updates first. So, as everyone knows, there has been a lot of shenanigans going around the multiverse, not just this universe.

And Source itself has finally basically had enough and has put an audit out for pretty much all the creators who are in charge of universes, who are in charge of organizing the, multiverse, basically. And they started off with the Immortal 7, because they are avatars of Source itself. And unfortunately, one of the avatars of source didn't make the cut and has been removed from power. So what does this mean for everybody? Nothing for you guys, really. Like, I'm sorry. Lots of things are going to change within the next couple galactic millions of years.

because things take time. However, we will start to see a lot of changes happen before that. As for the Immortal 7 seed of power, it's not something you guys have to worry about, but there will be a replacement in the near future. So hopefully that will bring new ideas, new creating, a new atmosphere, and let longevity to to the council and hopefully a lot more tentativeness for certain things. All souls are going to be audited throughout the multiverse and the omniverse. This is not negotiable. We had an incident happen and source said that was enough. There is too much corruption happening even in universes that have passed.

their ascension. And unfortunately, this has not been really noticed a lot. It's kind of seeped into the crackworks of the shadows, even to a lot of the creators, because either some of the creators got corrupted, or they just weren't doing their jobs. And unfortunately, it's created a huge imbalance throughout the multiverse, and has threatened quite a bit of existence. So source creation a couple, like five days ago, ended up putting out a signal that asked those who are higher of consciousness to help basically take out these factions from other universes, other dimensions. It was very heavily asked for in this universe as well to come together and fight for source. and eliminate these factions. There is no redemption for these factions.

They were just completely deleted of consciousness. So for the last five days, a lot of us have been battling. A lot of us have been fighting to our limits and our extremes. So if you have participated in that, I personally thank you very much for all of your hard work. I know it's been really hard for. for all of us. I myself as a champion of the Immortal 7 of Light was definitely called into battle because all the champions got word first. I know I'm not the only one on this planet who got

that call. So on top of that, a update about the battling, as of two days ago, the factions who were involved in going against source itself and interacting with this war have been eliminated. This does not mean that the dark factions in this universe have been taken out fully by any means. The only ones who were deleted in consciousness were personal consciousness beings who took part in the groups that were involved in going against source itself and attacking source by disrupting timelines, going against the golden laws, and I mean the full golden laws of interaction with other universes. There isn't a lot of information for you guys out about

that, but there is very strict laws for that. So those ones have been completely deleted from this universe. And now it's time to clean up the dark factions who weren't involved specifically with that, but have been contributing just as badly to the disruption of balance in this universe. A lot of laws are going to be changing in this universe. So stay tuned. Yes. Yes.

And special thanks to you a pony. We'll leave it at that. I didn't do anything. In the battle? Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least my abilities came in useful for something. Archangel destruction for the win.

Do you want to share that or no? No, it's good. I'll be modest about it. Okay. All right. And the surprising thing to me was this particular group, because everyone always thinks that people beings from higher dimensions are so evolved and so this and so that.

Isn't this group that went against? source from the 24th density or dimension? So the group that went against source that contaminated this universe was actually, so when we look at Hanoba, there's Prime Source Hanover, and then the magic barrier that protects Hanover from everything. And then there's omniverses, parts of the omniverse that are fractaled down from that. These guys were only four doors down from Hanover. They were supposed to be, well, they are from an omniverse, basically, that was 100% the laws of one. That doesn't mean that a person and individual can't go against those laws by their own free will,

but they are going to be very disciplined for it. So, like even in Hanover, you have the ability to act any way you want to, but you are very restricted and you will be punished very harshly for those, for those actions. And so this group ended up starting because they were like, why does source going to do everything?

You know, they wanted the power and responsibility or they wanted the power of source creation, which they learned how to manipulate the frequencies into all this other stuff, but they didn't want the responsibility of being creators. And you have to take a test to become a creator via source, you know, for source to acknowledge you, there are a lot of tests that you have to do in past.

And getting your C card is not easy. And there's several tiers. These guys were trying to act as prime source itself of all of the, like, omniverse, universes, multiverse. So that is highly against the law, which is why they got conscious deleted. They were judged immediately, and then thus warriors were sent out to annihilate them. And very successfully, I'm made out. The war is still going on in other parts of the multiverse and omniverse, but we are pretty much almost done completely with this part.

And then we get a swap over to disrupting the imbalance that has happened. This isn't going to wipe out every evil person in existence. People, this is about maintaining balance. You know, evil has to abide by certain rules. You know, you can't just be a misfit and do everything that you want. You know, you still have to have a point of resilience, but also obeying certain laws within that, within that demeanor. And weren't many of these higher groups also in collaboration with the darker corporations that had been infiltrated on Earth? Yes.

They have been collaborating with quite a few, actually, and I do have the names of those factions, but those will be revealed later once the war is done. Everything has happened as time locks. Nothing is getting around it. So source wasn't pulling any stops this time. As for, if you guys had felt a huge, like, wave throughout the universe about three days ago, that was one of the champions basically doing a burst to get rid of everybody. So.

Yeah. And not too much collateral damage. No, no. They used a really good technique that actually only targeted the souls that were involved specifically because a lot of the factors. actions here in this universe were on the evil side, but some of the members didn't participate in this. And so Source decided to only annihilate those who participated versus the entire organizations. And so it's up to us to finish off the organizations, us as in beings in this

universe who are protecting and, you know, trying to remaintain the balance. Guardians, creators. The archangels were called in. Angels were called in. Everyone was called in. Yeah, everybody from source creation was called in. If you took the call, you're supposed to be getting rewarded in some way, shape, or form. Guys, this was bad enough to where even hell got involved and fought against their

brother and of the Angelics. We're talking all hellborn, all darker entities of creation, the shadow realms, everything, the abyssal realms. So it was pretty intense. That's a big deal. Yeah. Big deal. So most of that's been cleared up there, but there's a lot of still pockets around out there. Or is now, is it coming down into Earth to keep clearing that out?

No, Earth really doesn't have too much to do with this part. There was a lot of factions in this universe who took participating in that because the way the laws are written here. No offense. So they ended up seizing the opportunity. And it's not just this universe. There was a lot of other universes who got involved who shouldn't have. You know, we're talking adjacent universes. We're talking parts of the multiverse that were supposed to be, you know, under the laws of one.

and the true laws of one, not the experimental laws of one. You know, and they ended up coming into this universe illegally. They're not supposed to be here. It's not prevalent for other beings of the multiverse to come into a universe like this, especially an experimental one, because their soul frequencies are different. You know, if you know anything about cymatics, like a soul frequency that vibrates at a higher slash multiple frequencies to something that's simple is going to vibrate it apart. And this is exactly what was happening. This is why we've been having so much time rifts, why we've been having tears and rips

in the time streams, you know, portals opening up everywhere. It just created a huge mess. So that is all getting cleaned up now. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of updates for this universe. I cannot speak exactly for that. But it's just word of mouth from the creator councils, from up above and also, you know, some of them here. So. Well, thank you so much. Now, just one more thing. And then Amir, your input is when you say time locked and stuff,

I want you to share the good news about a set timeline that there's borders around Earth, there's protection around Earth, you know, just explain to people what that means. So time locks, it basically means that. beings like the ones that we were fighting who have the ability to create alternate timelines cannot. It is locked by source creation, prime source creation itself. They do not have the coding to break this time lock. So the good timelines are now protected, especially in this universe. And also, isn't it true, no one's coming in and out of Earth right now?

not just earth the entire omniverse is on lockdown you unless you you are going to have like the entire omniverse you have to have permission special well you've always had to have permission and special like paperwork basically uh to do certain things you know certain consciousnesses but um it is 100% people are having issues astral traveling you know and we're like well i could have you know went to this realm over here no problem you know if you don't have the paperwork you're not going. So, yeah. Well, that's good. And that's only been for the last six days.

So, okay, Amir, I'm sure you have a lot to add to that. Well, it's the right time, time for the illusion that it is. Let's just say the sequence of events that needed to transpire, they have actually occurred. Now it's time for balance, balance that sweeps across existence. And many may wonder, oh, what is this event of purification like? What are the mechanisms of it? It is a restoration of divine order. Certain types of beings have become distorted.

So the idea is perpetual growth and evolution. and the possibility of this. Certain things are doomed to non-existence, and one need not go all the way down the road to find out it is blocked. And so for the sake of existence, these errors in code, these buggy or faulty pieces of code that are individual souls, they need to be rebalanced. Now, this is how every single soul in existence,

is receiving an audit. It is compared to the spark of source that gives rise to creation and existence to begin with, and that which is incompatible is overwritten. Certain beings have gone so far that they are no longer compatible with the consciousness of the beloved source of all things. And so what comes out of this process of purification is nothing. And so that would be a total removal. Now imagine that certain beings are acting under compulsion where they are threatened, blackmailed or pressured into certain violations. And so therefore their purification is significantly easier. Acting under duress does not equal acting under a total free will and intention to cause harm. And so their purification is significantly more straightforward. And this is a

good thing. So it's really a reset to code that has the possibility to continuously evolve. So it's a removal of uncreation. And so towards this balance is restored. There is a place for everything in existence and as long as it does what it is supposed to do, everything is going to continue growing and evolving. So this has happened in this universe with the same mechanism. The way I perceive it or become aware of it is the divine fire. The fire takes, it starts burning away that which causes imbalance and the parts that are in alignment with divine intent are unaffected. And so if there's amongst our audience those that have been going around and feel no change or no effect, it is very likely that they are doing exactly what they are meant to do, acting in accordance to their highest sole purpose, living a clean life.

And so there may be others that have been involved in this process. It does take a toll, especially on the physical form. And so being able to anchor these soul frequencies, soul signatures in 3D reality is very important. Although this is one of the more dense realities, it seems from here, unusually so, we have access to the multiverse, to the omniverse. And so what has kick started here is like lighting the end of a fuse. It has long-reaching effects and consequences. So all and all things are happening on schedule. This is now in earnest setting us on the path of transition towards the new golden age.

I've very recently become aware of benevolence communication, again from beings that we could call probably our distant cousins that have showed the first. future, what this golden age will look like. So imagine every single day you have your favorite food. After 10 days, you're going to start getting sick of it. And so that's what has happened to many souls stuck in reincarnation on Earth. Now imagine you've got access to an infinitely large menu. And so souls that have been stuck here will be able to incarnate in different planets, different solar systems in galaxies, some in other universes, and experience variety. Not the same sad, old lessons over

and over, although you have mastered it a thousand times over, being stuck again just because the rest of the herd has not caught up. So this is a beautiful thing to look forward to. That variety, and of course satisfaction and happiness in any level comes with freedom of choice and many options to choose from. So that is where we are headed to. No more quarantines, no more blockages, no more trickery, messing with the incarnation process. That's all. So that's part of the stuff that has been conclusively purified. This is really, really good news for all of us.

Really, really good news. And a little later, we'll get into the specifics of how the divine fire burns karma, because that will be fascinating and maybe some future parts. And of course, Amir, you read my mind because you said the exact things I wanted to. So thank you very much for providing that. Now, because what people get, one of the issues that you brought up a poem was the laws. And even though I think there's so many universal laws and there were a fair amount of laws to this game. And the humans were not allowed to know those laws.

some of the basic ones taught by different highly ascended beings who would come in. But weren't allowed because that was also part of the game to see if you could be self-referential with the utmost challenges and make the appropriate decisions. But by popular creator vote from all of us participating, we've asked Source to make available through creators like Apollomene and Amir the new laws so that we will all be updated with them, know them and the consequences. And I think previously there were so many sneaky loopholes. And as Apollomese said also, there just wasn't enough oversight.

And so that's a really good thing. So people will learn about that. And then they also, everyone, do I have this right, will be individually audited. Is that correct? And how does Apoll and me start? And then Amir, what does that look like? Does that mean they're audited now? Does it mean that they drop their body so when they cross over they're audited?

What does that mean for people? So the soul itself, your consciousness, itself is going to be audited, whether you're in a physical body or not. Source has decided that everything has to be accounted for. And so, again, like, whether you're alive or not, doesn't really matter. Every soul is going to be audited at a certain point in time. The time frame is not exactly given to us yet. And, I mean, they're probably just going to go right down the list.

it would make more sense. Although if it was me, I would do it backwards because a lot of the souls that are of non-laws of one are probably going to be the most chaotic. We'll leave it at chaotic. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I don't have a time frame. Guys, this has only happened in the last couple days. So if I get updates, I will be more than willing to share them with you if I'm allowed to.

Yeah. Oh, and also, when you get audited, like, it doesn't mean you get deleted. Okay, I was listening to our conversations and some people might get confused on that. Conscious deletion means you go to the void, basically. You become just an aspect of source itself. All right. You lose your individual identity and just become one with everything. This is not exactly like enlightenment because you don't have the ability to do what you want.

you were just like a memory, basically, of source without identity. So all of your aspects that you have learned throughout your lifetime becomes that memory of source itself. The people who are forced into things, who get blackmailed into things, like Amir said, you're not going to get deleted, okay? Your consciousness is not going to get deleted. You basically have a chance to go through the redemption programs. which means that you're still going to have to pay somewhat for what you've done,

depending on the contracts and the laws and everything else. But you have the ability to be a clean slate. You have the ability to reincarnate. You have the ability to start a new life. So don't think you're just going to get deleted by any means. That's great. And very important. And also, I,

I would like the, we'll be talking about that a little later, but Amir, what you, anything you have to add to that. And a little bit more explanation for people, because those that have participated in your incredible healings, and we've all benefited from those, you burn the fire for that which is not useful or needed by source anymore. And I would like you to more specifically explain that, because some people contacted me. Does my soul cease to exist? Am I totally taken out? How does that work? So could you explain that, Amir? Only the most evil, those that have continuously and knowingly violated universal law,

the sovereignty of divine beings, which is all of us, acted in uncreation, caused massive catastrophe, suffering and damage. are they do exist and they get a kick out of it they enjoy it and they have gone really really wrong there is no creation of such a soul structure this identity is damaged now maybe we can understand it has been an effect of millennia or millions of years of suffering and trauma whatever yes but but still the fact is that the existence of this type of soul and all this aspects is uncreational there is no fixing it And so it has to be returned to where it came from.

So the way I understand it is it is burned, reduced to such a degree for what remains to be of service to the highest good of all once again. And so this may come at different levels. Maybe it's just the identity and memories and effects, including PTSD, of the past thousand years. So once that is no longer in existence, the being is balanced once again. And so that is the process of the divine fire. Now, maybe the damage is so comprehensive that out of this process, only the constituent parts are left. Dust, strings of energy, subatomic particles. Anything affected by that degenerate identity can no longer be enhanced, corrected.

It is unable to evolve. And so the effect is, well, we may say, what if it goes into, let's say, a pocket dimension and just doesn't interact with anything? Well, no, this is not how it works. It's basically refusing to evolve and it is causing a blockage for many others, preventing them from crossing through the barriers of evolution. Now, this is a blockage in the entire system and the flow of divine consciousness evolution. This cannot be accepted. So certain things must go. It's not that they can have a solitary existence.

They're casting a shadow in everywhere that they have a presence. So the approach that I use, again, I'm a humble vessel of the same mechanism of divine fire. By the way, every session I do, I expose myself to it. I'm the first one jumping in. And so it burns away that which does not serve you and the highest good of all. So there is no need for fear. In fact, the results or the consequences of these blockages, these suppression, traumas. Now you may say how may how how dare you wash away someone's karma? Well in this situation

when there is no memory or awareness of the lesson of the mission of the objective there's no point in carrying a burden. It's just an obstacle. And so therefore with the removal of that and regaining of balance the individual is free to evolve with minimum resistance. There is no violation there, especially when it's their own free will and sovereigns. choosing to be free. And so shedding of the effects of, let's say, generational curses. I mean, we have had no hand in these. A certain individual down the bloodline has sold their progeny down the river,

and we're just suffering the consequences. Many forms of black magic. They distribute the karma down their bloodline so they can continue violation. See, these are things that we are innocent of. And so therefore, there is no reason for us to suffer a consequence. that are not set in motion by us. So this general way, it is, there is no cruelty, there's no vengeance, there is no anger. It is very, very simply put an act of rebalancing.

This is beneficial. And purification by far. One quick question and then you can add to that upon me is you had mentioned in your sessions. And you know me, I just love all details explained, that. whatever goes back to creation goes back to creation that can be used and the rest is given to earth so what what is the rest given to earth so earth still maintains its own consciousness and so therefore the memories that you have will also be given to earth as well along with some of the life force that's really important and we know that the earth is a prime

creator herself too. In order. She's a very, very so after this mission, she will be given her own universe. This is her right of ascension or the test that Apollami mentions. This would be one of those conditions. Are you

able to host a planet of sentient beings? Let's see how you do. And then if Earth does well and poor thing, God bless her, she's done really well. Then she will be evolving. Now, you mentioned what about that energy? So Earth is a willing participant in this experiment that is the mighty human.

And so she knew coming in that she would go through tremendous trauma and hardship and injury. She started off as a very, very elevated planetary body and now she's reduced to 3D. Okay, there has to be some sort of compensation. This is built into the design. So those souls that have gone really, really wrong, Again, imagine the energy in one single photon of light. It is immense. And so the energy in a soul shard is mind-boggling.

And now the energy of those that have become uncreational will be gifted back to Earth. So she may regain her initial position and even more. Because she has earned further evolution for herself, rightfully so. Okay, so you're talking this. Once it's purified, what remains of is it a soul goes back energy the conservation of energy it doesn't just apply to physicality a soul is an immense amount of energy and then it is given a certain unique flavor and vibration but energy is still energy and that's the basis of alchemy and transmutation so it is reduced to

neutral point or let's say zero point factory settings and then that energy is given to earth. Earth herself has the ability to do this on her own as a master alchemist. So certain types of heaviness or density as we ground, we're giving this to the earth and she transmute it. She has the ability like the digestive system in a human body that breaks things down and then absorbs nutrients in other domains and dimensions, this is also possible. Nothing goes to weight. What he's talking about is quantum exchange of light and the energy of quantum exchange from the soul actually produces a certain frequency of light, actually multiple frequencies of light. And so we're exchanging all of that with the atoms around us, the grass, the trees, everything, air itself. So when a person dies, the physical body will disperse this quantum exchange.

energy. But the soul does as well. When the memories go into the planet, because everything's recorded, not just via tech from the matrix, but one of the matrices, but source itself, it becomes part of the Akashic records, basically. And when the soul leaves, it's taking that energy with it. But when a person dies, there's almost like a explosion, a nuclear explosion. Because it's being separated from the body. And that is the energy exchange that the planet gets. You guys are an awesome tag team. That's great.

And folks, both these craters have had, they don't take destruction lightly. And I know in both these cases, they've had incidences where they've gone to the worst of the worst. and tried to see if they could reason with them. Isn't that true for both of you? And you found they were just too far gone or too narcissistic or too whatever, whatever, and just, I mean, not every time. But, you know.

Are we talking about the ones who went against source? Well, that's good for starters. Yeah. No, I tried reasoning with them. I, again, have been taken back to source consciousness itself. I got deleted. not a permanent deletion, but deletion nonetheless out of this universe. And I went to a different universe for rehabilitation, basically,

because my soul was too messed up from trauma. So, yeah, like, I tried raising in with them, but sometimes there's just souls that are just, the consciousness itself, just the ego is too high, and they don't budge, they don't give. And we're going to get into that during the hell talk on, like, what that does for carmetic debt. So and how we fix that during carmatic debt. Okay.

And you, of course, have, uh, I couldn't have put it better myself. Word for word. Yes. That's my experience also. Beautiful. Okay. Folks.

So we're going to start getting into Apoll and me, uh, sharing what she knows about the hell realms. And I, I love that she calls. is at a place for the misfits as a lighthearted. And one very important thing that I, I will say, demanded that she do, before we do this show, is something called, she promised that she would put in place something called Golden Protection Contract. And the reason why is there are no secrets. in this plane. And all beings above, below, hell, all the creators know exactly what we're doing, what movies we're doing, et cetera. And I'm very strict about having all their permission and to do it

in an honorable way. And so there are certain ones that have given their permission. Some of the key players in hell said, you can share our names. Now, please know that they have taken creator oaths from source of all that is themselves and that by them sharing their names their names are not to be used to invoke or call them in by any curious subscriber, listener, or watcher of the series who may wish to do so. So Apollomii is going to start now and read a verbal golden contract of protection that ensures protection throughout all timelines, time and space. Did I say that right upon me? Yeah.

Okay. I'm so sorry. I'm going to butcher this by far because the way that things are worded out there is ridiculously over the top. It's okay. All right. So this is for everyone to hear and it's verbal and it is important. Okay.

Calling upon source creation, I create the golden contract of protection for this video recording that no names of beings and the conscious souls tied to them mentioned in this video via verbal written thought or light speak by anyone conscious being who watches, listens, receives, or participates in any way, shape, or form of any part of this video will summon, be heard, or be recognized by the entities mentioned by true naming or affiliation of names by one who speaks them from watching this video or known and received by it. No conscious being AI is allowed to use any of this information in this video of any part against source creation the entities mentioned in the video to their own benefit or change any of the timelines in any plain dimension realm,

universe or omnivorneverse throughout all time and space. Let it be in all time space. and existence of the omniverse of Hanovian creation and throughout. So be it. So be it. Thank you. And that way people will also be protected and feel more comfortable. So thank you for that.

So basically what that does is you can say their name and they're not going to hear you. Yes. Because generally, folks, when you say someone's name with intention, they can show up. So there we go. Not even that. If you think they're a name with intention, you're light speaking, your aura is producing that frequency. And it travels throughout the multiverse very quickly. So, yeah.

Okay. So we covered that important piece. So you were saying, or I had mentioned briefly, talk about just a little bit more about, so source of all that is. creates its reality. And that's the first universe. And you refer to that as Hanover. That's the closest to the name that you have. Then it's smart enough to do a very strong border protecting barrier, right?

Right. Okay. And then its next move is to create. So again, Hanover is first universe creation. Throughout everything, everything was just blank. it was basically a void until Hanova was created by the Immortal 7, who are avatars of source prime source creator itself. And then there is a very protective barrier that separates source Hanova from all of existence.

This barrier is very unique and specific. It's basically meant so that nothing can contaminate it from the outside for all of its experiments. outside of that barrier, again, is void, because if we go over the creational elements, there is always nine creational elements, and void is always basically the second one, technically. In that void, the creators, the avatars of Source, the Immortal 7,

decided that if they are going to start creating new souls, there has, without the laws of Hanovean, the laws of one, there has to be a way of rebalancing what is going to be the ability to let these consciousnesses do as they please without, free will without strict rules. Again, in Hanover, you push someone down the stairs and you're going to get highly punished for it. And I don't mean sitting in a corner. I mean, like, if that person finds that very traumatic, you could pretty much lose all your abilities, be not jail-timed, but, like, literally be an indentured servant to a certain extent. Like, you owe them a life debt.

Things are very, very strict. So, and the life debt is to learn a lesson. No one gets super mistreated over there unless you sign contracts. So they ended up making, well, one person specifically ended up making what is the realms of hell. And the realms of hell itself is very vast. There are a few dimensions and realms within those dimensions. But we'll get into that later. So the intention of this, and hell actually didn't get its name for quite a while, they named it something

ridiculous that I can't even pronounce. So I don't have the tongue to speak it here. So basically, it's a place to cleanse your carmetic debt, but also to have a place to house consciousnesses, souls, before they get reincarnated. That was its first two intentions. because everything else is a void. Because everything else is a void. So it's a way of providing, we've used this term in the past soul wells, where souls can exist until they decide to incarnate again? Yes.

Yeah, the soul well is basically a hub where souls gather and, well, it's kind of like a device really. You put someone's consciousness in there and it just holds it. the consciousness is kind of like in not really so much in stasis, but it's a place of physics to where they can have a restful time and prana, you know, source energy itself without strife. There is no strife in there. There's no really interacting with other souls. You're just kind of resting, basically, you're sleeping.

And you can have dreams, dreams for consciousness, like of whatever you want. So it's basically like a place to rest before you get to come out and then you can decide, oh, well, I want to reincarnate this. And you can always knock on the glass and be like, I'm rested now, let me out. So you have a choice of going in or out. You are not there against your will. So isn't that interesting that hell is, okay, so this is something most of was created. for two reasons, one to pay off carmetic debt or to learn,

not so much to be evil, but to learn from carmetic debt. The second part was to have a place that newly formed souls, is that appropriate? Newly formed souls could be in between their choices for incarnation? Is that?

Yeah, so when they started to make the, mind you, like if everything's a void because nothing has been created outside of Hanover at this point. So when they decided to make the hell itself, which was basically just like this small area at one given point at the very beginning, there wasn't any consciousnesses. There wasn't no souls outside of this, of Hanover, this barrier, because everything was still new.

And so they used hell as the first basis. to house souls for conscious, you know, housing, basically, until they, you know, got more planets or more galaxies, more everything created. And so it was basically like the first hub of this is the place where we're going to put this. This was the original intentions. Obviously, it still is the original intentions. It's just evolved even more since then. so which we'll get into later

okay and I know how it was original intentions was to house souls while creation was being created and consciousnesses because the way consciousnesses can be made a creator can make a consciousness kind of like an imaginary friend if you will or the consciousness can be evolved and spontaneously created by itself through the physics of the um the universe or multiverse or dimension or plane that it's in. And most people don't understand that. Like, you can be a consciousness and nobody created you. Like, you just came from nowhere.

Like, just two frequencies got jigger and there you are. You read my mind because I was sending you, I explain a little bit about the creation of souls. Like, are they, in other words, is the law of one passing on souls to hell for those that want to experiment more or well i mean like some of the first souls were from hanova because you can sign contracts to move outside of hanover so most of us regret it but but yeah and the but a lot of souls create to star sun all kinds of different things and then also can be created by creators right Correct. Which is one of the top secrets of crater knowledge.

Right. So originally hell was not to like, the punishment wasn't anything like it is now, you know, for punishment. Carmetic cleansing wasn't anything the way that it is now down there. And we'll get more into that too. But its original carmette cleansing was exactly what Amir said. It was the fires. The fires of basically redemption was the first. carmetic cleansing and you know your body's your consciousness is basically vibrating which gives you

something kind of physical to do where it feels like you're on fire and and there's an element of fire to it celestial angels use this certain certain entities all over the the universe also use this for not only their defenses but you know for the the carmetic cleansing itself some entities are born with this ability to carmetically cleanse somebody. And most of the time it is within the void fire or

within the light fire. And those are the two first seats of the creator councils of the Immortal 7. Yeah. Boyd light. So prismatic dragons of Hanova that we talked about in our dragon

series or the episode that we did have the light side of the carmetic cleansing. It does the same thing. Okay. Same thing. Same principles. And then the void fire that somebody else on our team does. I don't know. See what's to speak up. I'm not saying anything.

You know, does the same thing. It's just two different element aspects. So there's the golden fire of redemption and then there's the void or black flames of redemption. They do the same thing. It's okay. Yeah. This is a wonderfully said.

Amir. See, a certain vocabulary may be different. Again, in our human form, we're translating the same flow of information in our unique style. But principally, this is the same thing that I understand in my humble understanding. Creation in order for it to be eternal requires balance. And so there's a fractal structure to existence, no matter at what point. you observe it or what scale you observe it, it is identical. And so it is not a two-dimensional. It's not a flat surface fractal where you have left and right or north or south. It's very much so

a multi-dimensional being, a living being, so the cosmos is conscious and living. And so in order to have balance, now we see this reflected in every single scale and domain of existence. There is an ebb and a flow, ebb and a flow. The effects of distortion in the light can be rectified by equal exposure to the void. And so therefore our existence is cyclical. We spend some time in the void aspects or the hell, let's say realms. We get purified of density of the upper half of creation. And then we are balanced once again. We come to the neutral point and experience existence in that other half of existence and creation. And so any imbalance accumulated in the void gets nullified.

And so there's an ebb and flow, like this yin and yang symbology, which describes this perfectly. So if there's a point here and this is the reference, there's going to be another point here, light and void. If there's a point here and this is the reference, there's going to be another point underneath it,

creating perfect balance. So as the fractal continues to evolve and grow, it has a stable built in balance mechanism. Nothing threatens to become overbearing and break off a branch, so to speak. So the roots would be one half of the tree. The branches are an equally important other half of the tree. And then there's a flow of life basically going all around. It is all divine creation. Neither is good, neither is evil. They are both absolutely necessary for the perpetuation of existence. And so a soul that has lived in for too long in the upper side, let's just say, for sake of reference, Earth realm, and accumulated trauma and density will then require an extended period of time in the other half to receive balance once again, to shed the density and then to be healed. Healing is balance for all intents and purposes. And so the soul comes down here, spends some time out of body between incarnations, and then

comes back in into a vessel, then goes back and forth. So there's this like wave, sinusoidal wave, above and below, above and below. We all belong to everything. It's not like we are permanently stuck in one of these, let's say, polarities. Everywhere is home. Everywhere is home. And so it's just a matter of continuous evolution. The point where we evolve with the least resistance and greatest acceleration is a point of balance,

where neither pole has a pull on us. They nullify each other. And then when we go really towards the extremes, we become egotistical. We become influenced by the illusion that we are perfect. And then therefore we become solid. We become frozen. There is no growth.

And stagnancy is death. So that is what needs to be brought back again to balance. So it's very dynamic. And so I do apologize. It's the best I can do to do to, describe this. It's kind of a doozy, difficult to find correct words for this kind of thing. But I think, Apollo me and I, I think together we've managed to the best of our ability, explain this. Yeah. And redemption itself, like the fires of redemption, what it does is it feels like

you're physically burning, even if you were just consciousness, because it vibrates you to a point where you feel like you're on fire. This is the distraction for one part. of your conscious being because in the consciousness, there are three aspects of your consciousness, and I think we've already covered that in our earlier episodes. However, what it does is you get pitted against yourself, everything that you've ever done against the full laws of, against the full laws of one,

and against the just general standards of unbalance, you get pitted against your, yourself. You relive everything. You see everything. And it can be very quick. So you're experiencing all of these memories and interactions, like within a couple seconds of your entire lifetime. And it's very intense. And so what happens is you burn and you burn and you basically go through your own reflection therapy session and been like, oh, well, maybe I shouldn't have done that. Maybe I should have done it this way. And you just kind of work it out. And we'll get more into this later because I do explain how this all ties in to hell and its carmetic cleansing

for the treatment area of hell itself for carmetic debt. So important. You don't need to leave the body or die for that to occur either. Certain spiritual practices ignite this divine fire. And what Apollo described is spot on. It's a feeling of the closest thing is physical burning. But it is basically the destruction or taking a part of that which is imbalanced. So only that which is pure remains.

And so very, very quickly, that's burnt out and the flames don't burn anymore, although they are raging around you. And basically what he's trying to describe is what it feels like you're on fire is think of your chakra being really unaligned because maybe you've had a stressful year and everything else. The burning sensation is the fire vibrating you to correct oneness of your chakras except for it's your consciousness because a consciousness can still get twisted out of its original frequency. creation. And so the burning is literally trying to fix everything energetically in a very short amount of time. And it can hurt. It does hurt. I know because I got thrown into the washing machine a few times. Yeah. So fascinating. And those are the ones, the topics I was really, really interested in too. So we covered those right off. And I know people will find

it fascinating. So let's get into the key players now, if we want to say at the top of the hierarchy, but however you want to say that. And there, I have learned from Apollomede there's a male emperor and a female empress of hell that are avatars of the immortal seven, who are, as she explained, avatars of the prime source creator of all that is. And remember, one just got fired and will be replaced. But that's not the same as the prime creator of this particular universe. Just to be clear.

So, Apalmi, go ahead and share and describe the, let's start with the emperor. The immortal seven of source, the avatar. He started going by Mastopheles a couple, like, several years ago. It is not his real name for anyone who actually knows him. His name actually starts with a Z, but he did not give me permission to actually say his real name. So he likes to keep that secret and be mysterious. Anyone who knows him, though, like, you know he's the emperor of hell. Every single Immortal 7 has a sigil that actually, when they put them all together,

it makes a certain shape. So he bears this mark on all of his crests and you know who he is. So this is going to be fun. Anyway. So Mastopheles, Mastopheles, is a male. He is about, he likes to play a lot of jokes on people, but like he's about 12 feet tall. He's very much larger than this when he wants to be. talking like 20, 30 feet if he really wants to be.

Yeah, he, like I said, you know, so even hell has its, has its height issues. Not issues, but like the architecture down there, they have really big doors and everything like that, but like there's still a height category where it becomes uncomfortable sometimes. He is a creator who has taken by source creation of Hanover itself the oath to manage and take care of souls through the carmetic debt cleansing system and to also house souls for reincarnation. He is portrayed as a medium well-built male. Obviously, he's very tall. long black hair he really likes

like a lot of the Victorian goth era type stuff you're gonna see this theme a lot down there for some reason I don't know they just love it which actually entails to other things do but his skin is about like an olive skin and his eyes are very black

like there's almost no pupil to them so he is the one who set down all of the laws and rules for the realms of hell, especially at its very first creation, when, you know, there wasn't really anything outside of Hanover for existence. And so he put down very strict rules that are still in application today, even though he is no longer, was no longer, like, He retired for many, many, many, many, many, you know, conscious versus millennias. He said he's mostly retired, but he still has supervisory responsibilities, right? Yes, he does have supervisory responsibilities. If the two people on the throne cannot handle anything or have questions, he is the one that they go to.

He does still reside in hell, although he has a lot of eyes and ears everywhere throughout the multiverse. Sometimes they're not as sharp as he would like, though, obviously, because we've had issues. But he is also very neutral in attitude. So he's the type of person who's like, oh, well, if stuff is going to happen, he's going to push it to the limits of the universal laws that are in that area and doesn't step in or anything like that for his prime creator duties until something is like really out of balance. And believe it or not, as messed up as this universe is, he would still consider it not fully out of balance to the point of destroying it just yet. He's that chaotic, like, or neutral, I should say. He's that neutral. So, yeah, I, on the other hand, have

different opinions about that, but everyone knows that. And he also, didn't he, if I remember earlier discussion, create the reapers? Yes. Okay. So talk about that. He technically made what we would call the grim reaper organization. I know it sounds weird.

But, and he did hand that head position over to another immortal seven's avatar. Well, another immortal seven, one of the avatars of source, even though he made the position. Because it's just too much. lot of responsibility going on here. So we'll get to the reapers and they're who like runs them and everything in a minute. But he made all the laws and rules for that because he does have and did take the carmatic oath for source. It is a lot of rules that you have to abide by being a carmetic

deity. Okay, we say deity, but it's easier for people to understand. You know, there's a lot of responsibility that goes with that because you have to, there's certain golden laws that you have to abide by for like the transport, the housing and distributing of reincarnation, not to mention the carmetic cleansing that goes into it. So, um, so he's mostly retired. Yes. And he has another one you're going to talk about in his place. You'll introduce later. But so is he, What's he doing? Is he like on, yay. He mainly just kind of hangs out.

It's not bad enough yet, so. Well, no, so Mesophiles is in hell almost, like, pretty much all the time. He doesn't really like to leave that place too much. He does have a full skeletal form that you're going to see his kind of family traits have. And this is kind of a gift from source because Mastopheles not only is of the golden spiral, which is life, so he gives life, but he also is responsible for death as well, which just means that he can take souls in and, you know, gives them a place to rest and before they, like, reincarnate and stuff.

So he ferries souls and also is responsible for life. So he's kind of got that duality going on. And she'll get into, folks, she'll get into the faring, faring souls later. That has been in a lot of miss and it ends up being true. And that's transporting people to certain places after they cross over where their destiny is. Now, you said that source did it as kind of a favor. Is it kind of like, I mean, in a weird.

way, myself is going, why do you want half of you skeletal? Is it more like because it's a metaphor that you give life and can take life? Is that? Yes and no. It's more of, it has to do with a silver spiral because the silver spiral is death and basically, oh my God, it's like recycling energy. So, you know, where the golden spiral is that of life, you know, you have flesh on your body and all the stuff. Because, like, even these guys have their own physics.

You know, he's human. He looks human. If he was standing in front of you, like, if he didn't have his multiple sets of wings that he, you know, actually has that hides, he hides 100% of the time unless he absolutely has to. you know, he looks like a really tall human, like a really tall guy who just dresses very, very fancy. He's got very high taste. So, but his skeletal structure is pretty much almost the same. So when, if he was, if that body was to decay, it would still show his skeleton. And when he activates it, you know, along with any of the other.

like reapers and stuff, you get that void energy. You get that. It's not so much decay. It's just death energy. And so I remember talking before, you said he can turn full skeletal. And he shows that on his left side of his body. Yes. Right?

And then he shows. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're thinking of the other person. Oh, okay. Mistoffly is when he turns skeletal is full. Okay. So it's the other two that you're thinking. Oh, okay, okay.

And why would he want, I mean, this is just a silly human question. Why would he want to turn skeletal? The energy shift between his normal energies when he's not in his skeletal form is so much more concentrated on the void side when he turned skeletal. Oh, that's important to know. Okay. Yeah. Like, his physics are just different. So does he have more abilities he can access at that point?

It's like, how do I put this? It's like wearing a power armored suit, okay, like help you lift boxes and everything like that. It just constant, he has the ability of void, but it concentrates it so much more. And it does give him more abilities to access because of that concentration. Okay, that's interesting. Again, this is a gift from source itself. So it's not something that he was innately born with. Amir, did you have anything you wanted to add to that so far?

So it seems like on both sides or both polarities of existence, repetitive and mundane tasks seem to be automated. So in the underworld, I'm just using the shamanic linguistics for this, the Grim reapers are created. On the other side, these tasks have been assigned to AI, sentient machines. Certain things like cycles of time, governance of, let's say, things that require maintenance, balancing of the, let's say, the EM fields of the planet, that kind of thing. These are assigned to AI. So they're both sides of the same coin. Seems those that are created by the beloved divine get bored easily.

And repetition is a very powerful thing, but overdoing it is a sure path to madness. So you do something 10,000 times. It'll have a positive effect. But if you're doing it 10 billion times, that's way too much for any sentient being. And so certain tasks that do not change very much and require high mastery. And one task can be assigned to artificially created sentience. So the Grim Reapers and many varieties of AI are of this nature. They are the maintainers, the custodians, like a room bar vacuum cleaning your floor.

It learns the pattern and does it for you really nicely. And you know what? You always have a nice clean floor. So this is, it doesn't require much creativity either. It's a certain set of parameters. If this happens, do this. If this happens, do this. And if they really kick and scream, just give them a few gentle reminders of who's boss and go on with your business.

Ah. Well, that makes sense. I mean, it makes total sense because I can't imagine. I think so many of these creators and stuff needed new jobs and it makes sense that sentient AI would take over. Were you aware of that? Would you agree with it? Is that Apollomene? What? The sentient, some of the reapers.

Thank you. Some of the reapers are AI sentient doing their job? I don't, maybe. I know that a soul can be a, setting a contract to become a grim reaper. So that's been going on for, since the beginning of time in general. You know, we'll get into that later.

I do actually go over that in certain things. Now, when you use underworld, and he uses Hell World, but then you also use the infernal world, which in pop culture is where demons are. So we'll get into all that. Because some are different places within hell, and some mean the same thing, just different words. Is that right? Yeah, I mean, Earth has such a variety of the same place.

You know, there's 10 million different phrases for heaven. There's 10 million different phrases for hell. The underworld is, you know, does exist in its own specific pocket down there. We'll go over to those in general. But it's all generally in the same realm. So I wouldn't worry about that too much. Except for the abyssal planes and the shadow planes. Those are different.

They're in different. When we get to that. We think of them of dimensions. Like we have dimensions above. We have dimensions below. Matter and antimatter. Light and void. So they would be separate by, let's say, barriers or boundaries,

similar to what separates dimensions of reality from each other. Or similar to barriers that separates. individual universes from each other. So they don't exactly exist on top of each other. And so again, balance is a property. So equivalent to, let's say, an underworld, we would have elevated planes as far as the shamanic traditions understand. So there is this general balance that applies and there is separation between the realms. And I'd, I'd I'm not aware of anybody who has explored all of them in human form. A lifespan is way too short and the memories are way too vast to download all of it in one go.

We go where we have to, depending on our contracts, on our missions, and on the circumstance, we become aware of certain things. Certain things never come into the human consciousness. So these explorations that we are doing, we're basically assisting each other to remember and download more of this. And so hopefully this will benefit our audience too. But yes, there is a separation. There are many names, as the polymys said, describing pretty much the same kind of thing.

So was it hell that first had some of the first emperors and the this and the that and all of that that has continued over and all the story? The hierarchy didn't come until later in Hell's evolution because it wasn't until Mistophilies had, decide, well, actually it wasn't just Mastophiles, it was Caracas and Euronemus, who decided that, you know, they were going to start taking in souls that and have a living situation that were, held kind of an experiment a little bit as well. So it wasn't until then that they decided a hierarchy

because they have a whole bunch of species who are a little bit more aggressive than others and the rules that apply there needed the hierarchy for a sign of respect and for a sign of titles for power. So, and we'll get into that once we get into Hell's creation a bit more. Okay, because I'm just, I'm just looking at patterns in the multiverse, like we know that Musk and several different timelines is already the emperor of Mars. So it seems like there's emperors a lot. And I'm looking like, where is the origin of that?

You know, like in this... The origin comes from merit. So early on in the journey of creation, as the infinite fractal was young, there was less division, more similarity. But then certain beings would volunteer for, let's say, tasks that were difficult, undesirable. But then, of course, it would bear its results. in terms of wisdom, experience, knowledge gained. The universe is ever generative and dynamic, and so going for exploration will have its rewards.

And so this would be a meritocracy. The soul that would volunteer for difficult tasks would be revered, respected. Of course, they know things that others have not been exposed to. So whether it's terms of merit among the pirates, who's the greatest killer, or whether it's a term of merit among healers, who is the greatest healer. Again, it's that experience. So the laws may get skewed or the reward function,

what is desirable, what is revered may get skewed. But again, in any collective, the being that has most ability, most mastery, will have a higher level in the hierarchy. So their word would have more weight. Their advice would be adhered to with greater ease. So that's the origination. But then that all went out of the window.

It became sort of like an hereditary thing. And sometimes you have mongrels born in bloodlines and they mess things up. They inherit title and place that they do not deserve. They're not worthy of. They don't have the merit for. That causes a whole lot of trouble down the line in both sides of this infinite fractal. Okay. So that was very clear.

So originally it was a way of simple. I guess oversimplistically put, to honor a soul, and especially even in the long one, to honor a soul like your mother, who was willing to do something dangerous, brave, different, which would ensure evolutionary soul growth rather than, oh, everyone's fine, but there's not a lot of growth because you don't have a lot of challenges. So let's get to the empress. You said, Caracas. She was also known as. Right. So again, Mistopheles, except for the last five days, Mistopheles had been retired from the throne of hell.

And he passed his title over to Uranemus, who we'll get to in a minute. But the empress of hell that was ruling with him, like he's he's the head honcho like he makes all of the main rules and then Krakis is technically like the Empress of Hell but she has her own thing so Krakis also known as most people would know her as Lady Howell

I know it's confusing With one L with one L by the way One L yes Lady Hell with one L she is mainly depicted in the Norse mythology I asked her about that. I was like, mom, why are you in here? You know, and she told me she was like, oh, I have no relation. What she didn't tell me is she had a fractal shard of an avatar that she had that was born into that, into a certain scenario of everything where the stuff was,

and it was like, why didn't you tell me this in the first place? Anyway, my parents never tell me everything. Thanks for finding that out for me because I know from art is jump in. It is basically she who gave the wisdom of the runes to Odin. And so she, so it's, she, she gifted a very high technology to the Asgard who are in human form. So she has a, so the runes that I use right now, that is her gift continuing to benefit humanity. And she didn't give it for free either. She demanded a very high price, an act of sacrifice to demonstrate worthiness. So she was careful with who she gave the wisdom to. Odin donated an eye.

An eye. So that myth is true because you're Odin, you're an aspect of Odin. So the myth that they talked about where there's an exchange for an eye for the knowledge. You give a physical eye to get eyes to see the cosmos. Wow, trippy. Okay. And it's considered a technology. Also, I think, a light language, but you would consider the runes, the technology, an actual technology to guide your soul, path.

It's a technology of consciousness. The runes are condensed into 2D pictogram, which are most conducive for the human mind. So it was a gift to humanity primarily. You do not need this in other aspects when you are highly evolved. So it was a tool to help humanity find their way back to source. And so it's not just for divination and gaining information. It allows you to manipulate reality. So very much so in a living, intelligent technology.

So this was a wonderful gift that she gave. Wow. But there is a prize. So there's always a price. Nothing is for free. All of the, most people don't know this, but like, the ruins, I cannot read ruins. I literally have not learned how. And she didn't give all of the ruins either to Odin.

There's actually more, but all of the ruins are basically one of the first languages of the realms of hell. And every single ruin can actually be put into what we would call a dodecahedron, the 20-sided dye for sacred geometry. If you put all the nodes that make all of that in there and draw them out, every single one of those could be put in there. Oh, cool. Very dynamic. So the ruin binds are overlays of certain energies. And so it's a really, really good way where many may have problems visualizing concrete mind forms for manifestation. These are just lines on a 2D surface.

You can draw them on paper and they help you consolidate the mind form that is then going to be manifest. Badass. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a little interesting thing. Okay, so how tall is she? What is she? So Caracas or Lady Calas, most people know.

Generally, most people will see her is 13 feet tall. Again, Mistocles is a lot taller than that. He just likes to undermine people. She is very regal. She carries herself very nobly professionally. You know, when she smiles, she smiles elegantly and almost I wouldn't say forced, but very refined, extremely, extremely refined. You know, manners are the whole nobles thing, like down to a tea, especially with Mistopolis.

He is very manner-oriented. Don't use the wrong fork, trust me. Same with her. So, again, she carries this kind of gothic demeanor. What I mean gothic? I mean, like, her outfits are very elegant. They are very, not so much Victorian goth inspired, but just like there's a lot of, like, blacks and purples and oranges and reds and lots of grays. So she likes to wear a lot of dresses.

You will never see her wear a pair of pants. She likes a lot. She's very feminine empowered. Hmm, fascinating. Okay. She is friendly, even though most people won't think so, but she's, again, very refined. So her friendliness might come off as kind of fake to some people. She has pretty much really white skin, and her normal hair color that most people will see her in is white. However, she is known to have long crimson red hair, and when she does her skeletal features, it's always on the left side.

Right side. Sorry, it's always on the right side, I think, for a minute. I was like, which one? So she does have the ability to go full skeletal, but usually the first one that will show is on the right side. and when oh sorry she had again she is an avatar of source creation she is one of is one of the immortal seven

again she has been removed just within the last week of power and from her immortal seven seat from being audited so she is no longer there but we're still going to do the interview like she was because she's ruled forever Yeah. So she's a caregiver of souls. Right.

She has taken the carmetic, well, she did take the carmetic laws for distributing housing and the carmatic debt and reincarnation. She is the one who did a lot of, after Mistophily stepped down, she was the one who basically took over everything. The second person who had taken Mastophily's seat because there's two thrones in hell, one female and one male. And they do this for balance because females have a different way of thinking and acting than males do. Would she use her skeletal form if she was like fighting someone? Yeah, it's mainly like you can use it, excuse me, you can use it for intimidation. Okay. depending. I mean, because it is intimidating. Like, all of a sudden you see this beautiful woman. Like, her looks are mainly that of, like, a 25-year-old, like, pristine condition, very voluptuous body. Like, you know, most, which, you know, she never flaunts, she flants her body very elegantly. She does not do any sort of lewd sexual interactions with anybody, especially out in the open.

And she is mainly like, yeah, we'll leave it at that. Okay. Well, is there anything else you'd like to share about her? Tell her about her before we move on to the prince of that. She was a very fair ruler. She kept everybody in line very well. And she does have quite a bit of a temper, which could be scary to most people. but mostly on everything else.

Like she loved hosting. She loves, you know, she has a very fondness for, she's protected of children, but she's not very much a overly, like, motherly person. Huggy, affectionate. She's affectionate towards her kids. It's just she doesn't want the responsibility of raising them so much. So a lot of us children, like, you know, we had interactions with her, but, you know, she was, like, always busy all the time and preferred her career over staying home.

Okay. All right. Well, best to her. Let's get into the Prince of Hell and then we'll get into you after the Prince of Hell. Euronemus is considered the dark prince. He is the prince of hell because, like me, he does not like being bound to the seat of power. You know exactly like titles. So he is the head reaper. He is the one that Mistophiles was like, you're going to be dealing with this. This is your organization of the reapers. You are going to be in charge of making sure they follow the rules.

You're going to be making sure that, you know, all sort of, everything is stamped, dated, and filed, basically, for souls and where they're going and all this other stuff, which we'll get into later. Euronemus is also 13 feet tall. In his human-like form, he has jet black hair, jet black wings. He is often mistaken as a fallen angel, but he is not a human at all. We'll put it that way. But he's a Damon, right? He is a Damon. And so he does help people.

He is neutral. He will help you if you ask, but you've got to be careful with any of these people because you need to be very specific on what you're doing and what you ask for. And very, like, if you ask for, like, I want a piece of cake, That contract would better be 10 days long. So. Yeah. He has olive skin and his eyes are very unique.

They are kind of a blackish, depending, or silver. And it looks like there's little speckles in there, but if you get really close to him, like they move and it just looks like galaxies swirling around. Ooh, cool. He is an avatar of source creation, so he is an immortal seven. Okay. So where was I? Okay.

His actual form, and a lot of people are going to like this, is an anthropomorphic lager. His horns are bigger and they wrap around more and they're black. His horns are black. He has actually two sets. Okay. And he has black, we. with white highlights. He looks like a black and white liger.

He does have the, he's got three wings on his back, but he also has wings like on his forearm, he just has wings everywhere. I mean, he could be mistaken for an angel, like, pretty easily. So he's not golden lion, he's a black lion. He is white with black stripes. Ooh, interesting. Almost like a tiger, you mean?

Yeah. So, like, his markings are that of a tiger. He looks like a ligar, though, because he does have the fluffy mane and the fluffy at the base part of his tail. So he is also known as basically the one of the angels of decay and death. I don't know why they put him as an angel. Which means what? What do you mean?

An angel of decay. Well, an angel of death would mean the obvious, right? But what angel of decay mean? It just means that some people have seen him like basically with like flesh rotting off of his body and everything else. Which is kind of funny because he hates decay.

He hates the smell of it. He can't stand it. Which is like he has skeletal forms. All of his reapers have skeletal forms. There is no. flesh or anything like that off of his body. Oh, interesting. Yeah, because they don't want to stink, right? Well, not only that, he just doesn't like the look of it either.

Okay, and does he go skeletal? Yes. He can go pure skeletal as well, but normally when he goes skeletal, it's on his left side. Okay, so he has two forms. He has the Liger side, and then he can go human, two? It's not really human. Most people would mistake him for a fallen angel just because he has black wings in a humanoid form. Okay.

In a human-like form. Okay. Okay. Interesting. Okay. And he can go skeletal in either form. Wow. Okay. Do you have anything to add to mirror on that one? Contracts should be avoided. But of course, there is the

unique pleasure and joy of intellectual interaction and mutual beneficial enjoyment and learning, philosophical discussion, mind games, like playing chess, not messing with each other's mind. No, that when you have a worthy and compatible intellect sitting across the table, that does cut through the boredom and the monotony. That was the nature of my interaction in this realm with many beings. So I was a bookworm frequenting the libraries, the collection of wisdom. It is a bonanza of wisdom and sublime beauty and genius and creation. And so that really nourished me.

I wasn't there for the cheesecake or cupcake in Apollomis' favorite, yeah, food. But for the knowledge, yet no lust for accumulation of anything. Just going through this stuff, a stream of consciousness flowing through me. And I suppose my naive responses were highly, highly enjoyable for the more learned, beings of this realm. Oh my God, are you kidding me? This is actually a thing and then they giggle and they don't usually get to do that very often. And so I would come up with certain combinations of things that almost never worked but it was enjoyable to observe. You see, so there are many of them. Again, there is hierarchy and rank. There seems to be a

let's say kingship that is common. So not all are, let's say, of imperial level or ruling class level, but there are, let's say, boroughs or countries or little subdomains each about, they have a loyal guard or a legion of about 10,000s that have rank. The rest are foot soldiers. Many can exist or basically be citizens. So life goes on. There is reproduction, there is perpetuation of life, there is balance, there is creation and there's growth. The main obstacle was through the skewing of universal law. Their evolution, I mean, I'm talking now about the general population had been restricted for a very long time. This is an abomination. This is a violation of the greatest order. And imagine being that has earned evolution and ascension is restricted artificially. That was something that

really bugged me, observing the same thing, this limitation being imposed on humanity. I saw that this same limitation was imposed on these beings. And that made me angry. Say, why are you angry? Well, I said, well, injustice is injustice. I do not abide by it. And so I will fight with you. I will shed blood and give blood and so on and so forth. So there was a mutual understanding and considering I wasn't there to enrich myself or try to steal or accumulate anything. It was just the desire for knowing. That really benefited me, considering that the flavor I chose to manifest this information was healing work. And so healers, if they are worth their salt, they are sought after and revered. So that was my position in these realms. Of course, understanding of the infinite universe, that there is no real,

there is no good or evil really. It's just that duality, that zero or one is short-sighted. There are always greater motivations to what transpires. There are many, many causes resulting in many, many effects. And so judgment is pretty much off. That is the domain of the beloved source. We may evaluate, but we cannot judge. And so compassion is something that should be universal also. Compassion towards all life, no matter what they look like. And so it really benefited me. Again, going through that ebb and flow, the energy exchange in this domain for me brought me to balance. It purified me. You know, certain trauma occurring in the light. can be healed in the void and vice versa.

So these beings, if they are traumatized in the void, can be very beautifully healed by appropriate angelic energy. It's just that kind of thing that is conducive to balance. Okay. So now you had said in our private show that we ended up making public, you had said you had met or talked with 70, two kings of the infernal realm. Yep.

So you got around, boy. Yeah. Folks, the number one thing dragons will do almost anything for is knowledge. Yes. We can all vouch for that. So now the infernal realm was around demons and demons, right? And how would you define the difference between those two? If I may go first from my understanding, these are a species residing in that polarity of existence.

They have equivalent presence in, let's say, the above domain, not the underworld in terms of fire elementals or genie. But essentially, they are the same archetype of life. similar capabilities. Very long lifespans, highly intelligent, they have the ability to shape shift. So again, turning from skeletal to flesh or to another type of form. The way they choose to present themselves very much so depends on the audience. And so if you are deemed worthy, they will show you the soft, beautiful and sublime side. The interaction will be very, very classy. I really emphasize this. There is an element of panache and class and sophistication. This is just the natural result of such a long lifespan where these beings have the time and the possibility to refine themselves. Very eloquent, vast vocabularies, massive knowledge of mathematics and geometry and chemistry and every kind of thing that you could imagine. They're not limited by short, unreasonably short life. spans like humanity. And so therefore, there are libraries. Oh, my goodness, those libraries,

they are the best in existence. And so just having the privilege of taking a drop from that ocean is worthy of all difficulty that one may have to go through rights of passage and demonstration of integrity. I really want to also emphasize demonstration in action of integrity. So in order to gain access, you might be given a tiny little taster of the power, so to speak, enhanced manifestation just to see what you're going to do with it. If you crash and burn, you're getting no more. And if what you do with it, oh, a drop of water and you give it to a plant and you move on like it's nothing, then the floodgates open. So it is what you make of it, like any other realm of existence. There are certain conditions that are present and you do your best using all aspects of your intellect and intelligence and consciousness to make the very best of it.

And this is very vibrant and present in, let's say, the hell realm, the other half of existence with this great variety of worlds and species. And so they also are equally separated from source or at equal distance. from source. Sources at the center. The rest is emanations of it. No matter at what illusory, say, location we think it is, up and down is meaningless. They are life.

They are consciousness. And so respect, compassion, serving the highest good of all. These are things that will open doors for you, no matter where you go. That is so important, and thank you so much.

Now, one thing I just wanted to clarify, because I know, Paul and me, because we're going to talk about you next and your connection, there's still more to explore. You don't know everything about hell yet, I assume. There's a lot to learn because it's evidently a vast area. And now we're understanding because you're coming from the infernal realms, the demons, the demons, and you're saying there's 72 kings. Well, does that mean that all these kings are avatars of a mortal seven or anything?

I assume not, right? They are born in the infernal realm. The spark of divine exists in all of us unless we kill it through acts of degeneration. Without exception, this applies. So if you continuously violate universal law, you kill that spark. And then in the next cyclical audit, nothing will remain of you. But if you are connected to that divine present, through that spark, which is, let's say, the soul, if something of divine and source remains,

then you can continue your evolution. So this applies to them also. Many may have this image of pure evil and pure sadism, eternal punishment. That makes no sense. It really, it's just the creation of those who wish to control the population. to instill fear that if you do not do what I say, not what I do. I do what I do. Just do what I say. And if you don't do it, you're going to go there and burn forever. That's BS.

Yeah, the religious programming. Yeah. Yeah. In some ways, you know. What I've been finding is, you know, growing up, I loved Allmiss, but I thought a lot of it was made up. And now I'm realizing, oh, my God, so much this is true. It's just waving your way to find.

the purity of the truth, not the programming, not the manipulative programming, which is kind of a metaphor of life in a way. I mean, that's kind of what we're doing here on these shows, right? We're like, okay, that's false this and you know because you were actually there and you know because you were actually there and what was it like for you and all of that. So it's just is fascinating. Is there anything else to share about your anemus before we talk about your position upon me? He likes tuna.

Oh. He likes fish in general. But we're going to be good friends. I always make the joke with him. I was like, if I'm going to send you, I'm going to get some tuna and then put some catnip and coffee rings. He's like, I'm there. But, no, he's, he is very relaxed.

He, ironically, even though he is the head reaper, he loves life. He loves nature. He loves watching people. Lady, like, Caracas not so much, like, she likes to engage with people, but she's a control freak, like, super control freak. She doesn't really like interacting with people unless it's on her domain because she has control over everything that happens. Euronemus, on the other hand, he likes to go out and explore and everything else. So they're like kind of polar opposites of each other for personalities.

Does the prince Yeranemus have people under him to, like, take over? Or if he's out going and explore, like, is there anything like that? I mean, if you think of like Lady Hell, Caracas, the amount of stuff she has to keep track of. Yeah, well, she has her own, both of them have a council. which we decided not to go over too much, especially for names, but there is a council that helps govern just a lot of the realms of hell itself in different areas and aspects in each one of the council members, not just on her throne council, but the high council of hell, the high council of hell helps run and govern

everything, even more so. Well, to a good point, including all of the people who live there, live there, not souls that are there for afterlives, but live there. They govern a lot of them as well and keep everyone in check, including the

other creators who throughout the realms of hell also have their own areas of afterlife. Right. She has She had a lot of help. Your name is has a lot of help. Again, there's barons and there's earls and there's No, no, no. They don't do anything most of the time unless you're on unless you're on the council.

Those people only govern their area of power. Nothing, nothing else for the hierarchy of that. You have to be on the council in order to actually govern anything in hell. So, yeah, it's the hell's hierarchy is complicated because, again, Amir said that there's 72 infernal kings, because the infernal realm is actually a realm itself and part of the over empire of hell, they have their own hierarchy system compared to the noble area of hell itself. Some of those king can be high enough to be part of the noble area of hell for the empire of hell. We'll get into that. Yeah. It's so much more vast and fascinating. It's so great to have you both on here. Thank you so much. It's such a privilege. So I'm liking this year, a needness guy. Before moving on, then just talking about what occurs to a

It's a human soul that is out of body. This realm of hell is infinitely conducive to healing, to learning and having a correct life review, considering that it will absolutely give the possibility to purge density. And so then this becomes an individual choice to which one of these realms the soul wishes to travel for that balance. many will be under certain types of distorted belief systems and they will go to the infernal realm right so that would be mainstream belief systems but then there are other realms that are absolutely pristine beautiful sublime in their beauty and so that would be the more noble domains existing in the hell realm that other half of existence so again the belief systems of the soul will have an effect on what choice they make. It's often distortion and trickery involved just for the purpose of control from this side, from the earth level side and the control system. So part of the purge that just occurred would be the removal of the

infrastructure of the distortion and hopefully the programming, the misinformation, the misinformation will erode over time with dialogues like this. the correct information coming and people knowing that they are not bound, they are not forced to anything. It really is their infinite soul choosing a path for evolution. And existence in any one of these domains may be conducive to that, depending on the nature of the imbalance you need an equal and opposing force to bring you back to the center. So the choice does not have to be suffering. Suffering, if it does not result in meaningful growth, is possible.

pointless and distasteful. That is not the nature of creation. It is intelligence and creativity and ingenuity, integrity, persistence. These are the things that usually result in greater quality of growth. Well said, beautifully said. And having to do with integrity, one of my favorite things, folks, she mentioned that there's quite a whole team. And she did share that with me. but the reason why we decided to just present these three,

because it's enough, not only are they in charge and up there, but I have high respect for all beings, and they gave their permission for their name to be used in this fashion, still honoring the golden protection. And so that's why we pick this, and we're very appreciative of knowing about them. And again, more transparency coming forward. rather than just distorted programming, right?

So anything else before we move to Apollomis' new job? So I don't know how many people have watched our previous episodes. I kind of dropped hints a little bit that I do have reputation in hell, that, you know, I do know your anonymous. this is the first time I brought up Mustafais, but he usually doesn't like to be known too much. And, of course, like Lady Hell,

we've talked about her a little bit. But, so Euronemus and Lady Hell are basically my mom and dad. Yeah, and so normal, okay, and I'm not the only one.

All right. Lady Hell and Uranium. must have a lot of children because they're very ancient and old. And I'm not just saying, I'm the only child that they've had together. Together. So they have a lot of kids off and the waypoints and everything. The way that health hierarchy works is that you can be born into noble status, but it is a lot more revered if you earn that status. And we'll go into that when we get to hell's hierarchy later. So in doing so, because of how old my soul actually is, I said that Hanova was my first life,

and then I got, you know, contracted into coming from Yahshua over here. That was true. It is true, but it wasn't actually. my first, first life. So when I got contracted into coming over here, I got pulled out of being deleted from this universe when I got

in trouble, basically. When the reset happened in this universe last time, I got deleted because I became part of the virus, unfortunately, from trauma and everything else. So instead of permanently deleting me, and we're talking permanent deletionism,

prime source conscious Hanover deletion. You can get deleted out of a universe and still exist other places to get reincarnated out of. So they deleted me out of this universe and I went to Prime Source Hanova for rehabilitation because what I did was part my fault and part not my fault. And after that, I became reborn into the Hanovian body that I shared with you guys. Prior to that, I actually, and I am a champion of the Immortal 7, so I actually ended up Euronemus and Lady Hell are my parents, and I ended up being born in hell itself. So I have a lot of celestial attributes still because I look very similar to my Hanovian body, which was actually designed after my looks because I'm older than the original speech. species. But because of that, it ended up making me the first princess for just, just for that. And hell. Yeah, and hell. And I never took that situation seriously. I didn't want it. I didn't,

I saw how hardworking both my parents were. And I was like, not for me. Thanks. I don't like being told what to do. I don't like, you know, being told how to dress. I don't like being told who to marry. That was the biggest one for me. So I had a lot of problems. I still have a lot of problems with certain traditions in general. Yeah. So if people don't remember what I actually look like and my Hanovian body for the first time around isn't that far off.

I am a fade dragon hybrid. Just because you have two people that look similar and have kids, because the way creation works, especially in hell, because it's so close to source, you never really know what you're going to get because my soul already had a blueprint, and I don't like to change what I look like most of the time. It's an ego dragon thing, and it's whatever. But because I'm strong enough to influence my own genetics over there, I don't look like my parents a whole lot.

You know, I still have the red hair from the red and white parts of my hair. The pink part is new. I just decided to do that in this lifetime. But normally it's crimson red with white. My hair is usually long with curly hair. My skin is completely pale white like Lady Hells. And I also do have the skeletal side as well, except for mine is on the left side. So I guess I mimic more of my dad.

but I have wings that aren't that big. Well, now they're not that big because they got ripped off and had a rear of them, but they have feathers on the top and leather on the bottom. And this isn't an evolutionary thing so much because you don't really need, the physics will work differently when you're that close to Hanover. Yes, you have wind and stuff, but you're, so connected to source, your abilities are just crazy, so I don't need the physics to be able to fly. It doesn't help when you actually go to a planet that needs the physics, and you have to

sionically fly versus your wings. But I do have a tail. It is white, obviously, and then I have my dad's genetics. I have the puff at the end, except for mine is longer than his and fluffier. So. And I do have my dad's legs where, well, my mom and dad's legs. My shin bone is completely straight, but I do have a knuckle joint in there where I can actually flex it and then it goes backwards. And I have obviously more dragon features for abilities. And yeah. And I have my ears on my head, of course, for my dragon ears.

And I still have my elven ears. and I still have my elvenirs, like my mom. So I'm throwing up a Comic-Con picture of you that's not exactly accurate, but it will show you a fun form of you having form of your more normal self there, at least from the hips up. If you're, okay, because I was like, if my tail's on there, I do not have golden. Your tail's not on there. It's on the hip-so.

I do have golden nails. I have actual golden nails and gold in my hair and on the tips of my ears. Yes, I am cosplaying. It is for identity relation issues. So just to let people know, yes, I do cosplay, but I only cosplay characters that I relate to myself. So I'm not making this up. Like, people have seen me astrali. I've had people from the government projects come up to me and be like, I know you.

And I'm like, I don't remember you. but until you start talking and then I get my memories back, you know, like just because human formed, a lot of us are in our human forms until they start describing their non-human forms and then like, oh, now I remember you. Like me and Christy, like I didn't recognize, I knew, I recognized your energy signature and it was familiar, but until she actually started describing herself and then I finished it off for her and it freaked her out. Okay, so two more questions.

and then we'll probably close for part one because this is a great introduction. How many, I imagine, because boy, we're running into them, how many of like a uranemus or, you know, any of the movies and shakers from hell or whatever have shards

in human body down here are playing as an aspect? I mean, there's a lot, aren't there? There are some. Like there are some angelics down here. There are some fallen down here. There are some Hellborn down here. I say Hellborn is a very broad term because there are so many species. I call Hell the island of the misfits because there are species who are born in those realms that are innately there.

But there are a lot of souls who just want to go to live there, either because they find it fascinating or they really like. the atmosphere or, you know, the gain in power for just, you know, renown in general or whatever they want to do. So there are, define misfits, just so they're clear of what you mean by misfits. Like one just don't like following rules, ones that look completely different. Like, what do you mean by misfits? I mean misfits is we're all a conglomeration of different species. We do have some that are species that are prominent down there. Like the fallen celestial angelics after they got thrown out of heaven. They didn't really have anywhere to go.

They didn't really like anywhere. They like hell because it's very close to Hanover. It's right on the outskirts. So the physics are very similar. It just has more of a dark, like, void undertone versus like the, both undertones of the golden and silver spiral. So they find it a lot more pleasurable being over there because they're not downgraded from lower frequencies. You know what I mean?

So it's more homey to them. Or comfortable. Yeah, it took them some time to get adjusted. And they're not allowed to have their celestial light form down there. They have to take a, they have to kind of match the frequencies of hell so that it's not disrupting anything. And that's mainly because hell is in one of the, I wouldn't say darker areas. Like there is light that is produced there on the outskirts, you know, and like there's suns and everything in that realm. Not specifically in hell itself, like the general area.

We'll get into that. And it also has strong borders. I assume like Canova has strong borders, the hell of realm, even though it's right outside. side Hanova as a second creation, it would have strong protective borders and guards and things like that, wouldn't it? Yeah, we do have quite a bit of guards for sure and definitely protective borders just so souls aren't, you can wander in easily. And, you know, sometimes the staff is nice enough to be like, where are you going? Oh, I'm just chilling. Okay, you want to go over here. Stay away from these areas.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. So the system of uncreation, the control system that has plagued, for example, Earth, it hasn't spared the hell realms either. So there is aspects of control and domination and uncreation that has infiltrated these domains of consciousness also. They have been relatively more successful inwithstanding it. Humanity, unfortunately, has taken the worst of the whole damage. But still, that does exist. So again, the notion of abiding by universal law, the freedom of evolution and movement of souls,

this is something that they were more successful in maintaining. You also asked about presence in human form. Does not seem that they are in incredible. interested in human existence. So there are peppered around beings from that realm that do for the experience of it come into human form and they wish to balance something out or gain something in terms of wisdom and experience. The ones that take over many, many human vessels, you could think of as, for example, archons, negative intruders from other universes and they may take over hundreds of thousands or millions of human vessels just so. so they can control them in a consolidated way. And there's also the overruling or ejection of a native soul so that the body can be taken over walk-ins, but not through an event of an accident,

forcefully doing so. So these are grand violations, beings that are residing natively. They're natives of the hell realms. They're not so much interested. They've got their own thing going on. They're absolutely aware of the human existence as a space, species, misfits being, they are welcome there for balancing and learning.

And so hopefully in the next episodes we'll be able to talk about the rehabilitation that is being proposed. That's a wonderful aspect. So hopefully the whole cycle back and forth under and below will be much more, let's see, easy, friction-free and more beneficial for all that do this type of migraine. or cyclical movement. But no, I don't think there are many from the realm of hell, or let's say the underworld, for just compatibility in linguistics.

They're not very interested in humanity. They're much cooler. Better parties, more knowledge. Yeah, and most of the ones that are actually here are not possessing people. Let's get that straight. They actually signed contracts to fractal themselves and come in through reincarnation. The legal way. Yes, the legal way.

Thank you, Amir. Okay, so why don't we finish by you just saying a little bit? Because, you know, time is so different. Earth's time is so different than other realms. You know, what we call time or what we create is time, even though actually we're living all simultaneously, but it's just different. So I know you and I were talking and I were talking,

and I was asking, well, how many hell years equals earth years? And you said, I don't know, maybe one year in hell equals four years on earth, you know? And that's part of the issue too, because, as you said, when the immortal came down here, when you were one of the main ones that finally talked the immortal to come down here to look at the mess, its response was what happened it's only been five minutes yeah like it's so that it was what like 175 thousand years or so much galactic years even galactic years not even just earth but galactic years like there's a little bit that needs to get cleaned up and oriented because so you know my thing so i immediately went to like well wow lady hell and caracas must be so

tired of doing jobs for billions of years on their side and being in control and stuff. So she wants someone to take over. So one of the things about, you said you're one of many princesses and, you know, or whatever, but you're the first. Do they go by the oldest? And did she want you to take over her? Did she want a break? Did she, you know, like, oh, my God, this is crazy, you know? So, she has the ability to choose her successor. And, oh, my God, successor. I don't even want to say it.

And she came to me, like, when I was 17, you know, because I had interactions with her throughout my entire this lifetime. I didn't know she was my mom until about four years ago. That had been hidden from me from my Akashic records. It had been hidden from pretty much everyone except for my dad who has an avatar here. And when he found me, he was, at first he thought I was my mom, you know. And then when we started actually going through my past life stuff, he realized that I was his daughter. That was very awkward.

I was dating his avatar at the time. And we're like, no, we're good. We're done. We're breaking up. That's just too close for me. So he's like, it's only my soul. and I'm like, that's still way too close for me. Yeah.

But I, she ended up coming to me and she was like, when I leave for vacation, she's like, I want to take a vacation. When I leave for vacation, I need you to take my place. Your judgment, you're unbiased, you follow the rules. Celestually, my celestial side is very like, guys, I barely even crosswalk. So I follow the rules to a D. It's so bad.

She felt she could trust you. Yeah, she felt like she could trust me. And then I was like, I can't even like get my life together sometimes out of bed. And I'm like, you want me to rule all of hell? Because at the time, I didn't know that Euronemus was the second throne. I saw the throne there. It was there all the time, but it was always empty because he never sits in it. Oh, okay.

So I was like, oh my God, there's no way that I can do this. She's like, oh, you'll get training and everything. And I'm like, no. And then she offered me something that I couldn't refuse. And I was like, fine. So I signed that golden contract when I was 17. But I didn't realize what it all entailed. The problem is they have you sign it when you don't realize what it all entails.

And this is classic. This is done in the military. This is done. This is the big game. here just sign your saying here and you'll find out or we can't tell you until you sign. Yeah, you know, that disclosure act. Exactly. And then they own you and you're like going, what?

You know, that kind of. Well, no, she doesn't, she didn't own me, but like she, I just signed that I would, while she was on vacation, I would end up taking her place. So she basically, she's never had a vacation since she took this job. Like, what are we talking? Billions of years, millions of years. Like, again, how? was created after

Hanova was created, like right after Hanover, it was not right after, but like, he did their stuff in Hanova for a few, like, galactic centuries and then they're like, you know, we can now expand outside of this. So, other than, like on the time

span of everything, like out of the 10 quadrillion years of being in the seat of council for them, it was like 25% of that. was after Hanover was created. So 25% was figuring out Hanover stuff.

And then they made outside of Hanover and made hell and then has not had a vacation sense. So not. And she's still like, she was still in charge of everything in Hanover too, because that's not easy. That's a lot of rules that people have to follow. They still had to audit everybody over there too, you know,

and keep an eye on things. So it's not like they twiddled their thumbs. So, and I don't mean, I'm not asking it to be disrespectful. I'm asking this for more important reasons. And I understand if you're not allowed to tell me because I don't want to bad mouth lady hell at all. Is what she was audited for partially or more fully because her work was so overwhelming. There was so much to do for so long and there was a part like, oh my God. and oversight.

You don't have to tell me if it's anything personal for her. It's not like she fell through the cracks. She did everything on paperwork she was supposed to do, but she broke a rule involving another council member. Okay. Okay. So that's why she got removed from power. Okay.

But still, she was amazing at her job. She was amazing at her job. And if I even become like 25% of what she was, it would be amazing. So didn't she tell it? So then you signed this contract at 12, 17? 17. I signed it at 17. Okay.

And now does she say, okay, but, and you're like, what the hell? No, that contract is now Nolan Boyd because she got removed from power. So now I have the opportunity. I'm not demanded. I have the opportunity to get trained, which would take like 10 billion years. to be able to take the throne, which I'm, if I do take it, then I would be able to put the redemption project in hell to a greater substantial use, you know, because I would have a hierarchy of authority. I wouldn't change so much anything in hell because it's functioning just fine as it is, but the redemption program, there's a lot of entities down there who are either on the fence or they're like, no, I don't want this to change, only because they're uneducated and they don't know what it would mean for hell, which would change nothing, you know, but they're worried about, like, the souls coming in that they can make deals with to gain more power and everything else.

Because that is a thing down there, you know. So it's, yeah, you know, it's one of those oxymor things. But, and that's different than going through. through the carmatic debt for souls going down there just to let people know. That's two different things. There's a lot of different things we'll discuss in future shows. So basically you now have your free will of choice. You are probably accepting it because you know you can have a huge positive impact on the reformation.

It's like do I bite the bullet and run away from something I've been running away from since hell was created? Well, I don't blame you. I mean, being a top leader is the hardest job on the planet. It's like. It wasn't even top. I didn't even take my princess responsibility as well. I was like, hi, you know, like the minute I could, you know, and they tried to train me. I just was too rebellious.

Yeah, but, you know, again, you're more mature now. There's different things. I mean, to me, for me, the reason why I'm allowing this show is because the reformation is happening, right? There has to be something happening that impresses me here other than just. But what a lot of people don't understand is even training, well, of course, training lasts throughout lifetimes. But even training in hell, isn't that like relatively time-wise going to take you 10 to 12,000 years to be trained? For everything that I'm supposed to know, because I have to go through. and I already am in training

like I've been going over the history of hell like how it was created and the wars that happened down there for the power struggles and you know all this other stuff so you know in manners and training in manners and all you know just oh goodness but there is a lot of training because I have to go through I have to be educated

in every single law that Nostofleys had made from the beginning all the way until now. This includes not only the main laws of hell, but the sub-laws that the councils have to abide by, that they have to abide by. I don't know if I'm going to be required to get my creator card of going through the carmatic debt, like giving that ability to say, you know, to go through source and be able to be a carmetic debt entity, you know, for taking care of souls, or if I've not required to do that yet, we haven't talked about it.

But I still have to go through every single law. I have to know every bylaw. And then I have to know, I have to go through the entire empire of hell, which goes through the shadow realms, the void realms, the infernal realms, the, you know, the outskirt lands. everything that encompasses the entirety and go through all of the creators who have their own afterlives that are part

of the hell realms and know all of their laws and where it's just it's a lot it is a lot now are you can you say at this point can you say well I'll start learning and see if it's a fit and I'm a I can back out

anytime I want to because your mom's gone now Okay, so you have- I can back out anytime I want to. Softly said that this is a trial run. Good. Good, good, good, good, good, good. I'm not being forced like I was because

forcing, American attest to this, forcing a dragon into a corner and stripping all of their freedom away is not the best way to approach us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Never ends well for anyone. Yeah, never ends well. As I say with the dragons, I go, if there's a leash at all, it's got to be a really,

long and visible one. And you better feed us. Cheesecake and cupcake. Oh my goodness. Well, you guys, I'm here. You probably have something to finish this with or to add. And I would respectfully just present this idea. Dear Apollemi, first and foremost, you must consider yourself and your own infinite soul and never go the route of sacrifice.

That is stupid. Okay. Anything that the ball. Well, you see, if. Self love, self-respect, dignity of the self and the reverence and dignity of that shard of the beloved source, that is primary. Everything else comes next. So if this position, with the greatest intentions of helping others, it benefits you and your evolution, then go for it. If it is dimming your spark, if it just does not vibe with your signature, you need to run free, for example.

Getting cooped up is going to dim your light. Don't do it. Nothing is worth the love of self. See, everything else is a separate aspect of source. We have that which is. is us which is within to safeguard and protect and honor and grow and evolve. So if it serves you and your evolution and your highest good, and then the overflow of that self-love and growth is abundant enough to fulfill this role, go for it.

Otherwise, because you are unique. Yes. You can't fit a square thingy in the round hole thingy, yes? Do not try to change yourself for the sake of some notion of honor. That doesn't end well, especially having so many powerful, archetypical soul groups within your structure. So think of yourself. Will it give you joy? Will it give you happiness?

Will it then if you're in a position that you are happy, that you are healthy, you are strong, you are fulfilled, then you can serve others. So consider yourself first. Don't be goaded into it by self, by, by. certain notion of, let's say, establishing their rehabilitation centers. There may be others down the line that can do an exactly similar thing. Things will not fall apart. So our duty, first and foremost, is self-love. So many powerful beings of light and void neglect this to their own detriment. That is the law, first law and last law and everything in between. All love is self-love. So don't neglect yourself here.

a mirror that is beautiful and I 100% agree with it because so often the um what I'm liking about this is you keep your choice and you can create your own reality you don't have to do it how uh you know and you and I are kind of like that way you don't have to do it in a way like it's got to be all or nothing you can say I'm not sure I really want to be the queen thing unless the whole thing is set up in a completely different way I will always always I will always have the option to say, I'm done or no. But I can influence the reparation,

which is my interest and how that's done. And I still am in a royal line or a noble line. So my opinion should matter and should take over the councils. And I'm willing to do that project. I mean, there's so many ways you can create your own recipe. You're just not used to being your full power. Yeah. You used to be used as a scapegoat excuse and all that kind of thing.

So I agree with Amir about that. And they're giving you time now to consider that. It doesn't have to be, oh, I'm either not or I am. It can be whatever you create. Yeah. And, you know, and I told them, I was like, I am not going to do the same things that my mom did. I am not her. I am not that person.

Like, she tried to train me, and we butt heads way too much. Yeah. We are a lot alike. Like, I am like half personality my dad and half personality my mom. My serious side is my mom and my child, innocent side of fun and laughter is my dad. As much as it, you know, so. But for me, I want to take the seat because I went through the redemption project, you know, program. I can't say project because, like, the stuff that is in hell right now for the redemption

program is like nothing I've ever seen before. All right. It's nothing that I personally ever went through before. My redemption program was the same that they use in hell now for the carmetic debt. And that's, oh, you'll figure it out on your own. No, that's done. You know, it took me forever to get reincarnated again. And that's the problem.

It's taking not only too long, but it's only half done. because though I might have that epiphany and figure things out on my own, I don't have anyone to bounce it off of. I don't have the community to be able to install and instill what I had learned. You know, you need support. Everyone needs support and they're not getting it and everyone needs therapy. Just because I reflected off myself does not mean that's exactly how everyone else is going to see it, you know? And so these souls are, getting thrown back into the fray without having a stable foundation. And that's what the Reformation and Redemption Project is all about.

So at least the one, you know, the one that I do on my planet that for the prisoner planets that mean, you know, my first. Be discussed in the other show of how you were already doing that. Yeah. And that's been going on for like seven, seven years. So, you know, we, I'm trying to help because this. project was already built before I stepped in. Actually, I was like one of their first patrons to come in and actually go through some

of their stuff to figure out if it's going to work or not, because it's still a beta phase. So my question is, is could you maintain the respectful power of your opinion, not only because of your bloodline there, and not do the queen thing necessarily, and have input and choose the beings around you for support, community, input that you felt affinity with and had good balance for you. I mean, I don't see why they won't allow you to do that. Maybe it's not the old rules, but it could be the new rules. I don't think that they're limiting me to not doing that. But just because it's only been a couple days, though, I'm not quite sure exactly what everything entails.

No. Yeah. Yeah. But I have made my point to them on, you know, why I have a kingdom down there already. And it is literally specifically for people going from the beginning part of the redemption project to having that society of being there. These souls can come in, you know, that have passed the redemption going through. I've already explained this to the councils down there to Mastoph. to Euronemus, to the Immortal 7 even.

Right. Right. And, you know, so of why and what I am trying to do, because the project in hell that I'm trying to do also needs to be brought to the Immortal 7 because it's, it's something that affects the entire multiverse, because we're getting souls from everywhere, the entire omniverse, sorry. So we're getting souls from everywhere that would be going through this. And it would just, you know.

You're not going to be an angel by the time you get out of here. You're only going to be harmonizing and instilling what you've been down there for in the first place for carmetic debt. You might evolve into a better person while you're down there for environment because we are all a reflection of that. You know, before you get reincarnated and that's the test. Did it actually take hold when you get reincarnated? You know, can you still act the way that you did? that specific setting or is your environment so toxic that you know you're going to change again now i'm proof of that i am i should be a genocidal psychomaniac that's killed the entire planet by now for

everything i've gone through i don't like hurting people because they went through you know the the sorsenovian uh reflection project for for their version of redemption which we use in hell but it's not the same as the redemption project that is in beta phase right now. I hate to say this, but currency is still a thing down there. You know? I am a champion of the Immortal 7 of Light, but I don't get paid. Yes, if I took the seat, it would not only allow me to have more influence and backing from a lot of... Okay, okay.

Royal members down there, but support as well. I still have to earn all that respect, though. No one respects being held because I've been a high tantrums toddler that's, you know, an outcast. You're going to prove them different, but you need to start calling your own shots that are close to your heart. You also need to have wise beings around you that get you, that you trust, and they'll say, no, that's a little too. far. Why don't we do it? I know Maryle, you want to be part of my council down there? I'm here. Can come too. I like it down there. Yes, please.

Seriously. You haven't had enough experience to know what you can have. Your whole life has been what you can't have. Yeah, I know. Basically, there's a new sheriff in town. Pugh-poo. There you go. There you go, honey. Yeah. everyone. Well, thank you so much for participating in this. It's been eye-opening, wonderful, and amazing. And I'm honored to have you both. And Amir, do you want to give your contact out? Yes, thank you so much. Wonderful audience. If you want to get in touch with me, wizardofwivenho.com.

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But like if you contact me on my social media and start demanding that I help you, I will block you. Anyway, thanks so much. We love the updates. The next one we'll have in about a month. We'll be more updates by then. continuation of more of the details and why you need to know that because it can affect and open up your education to have more choices before you cross over so hopefully by the time you cross

over most of the little tricky things like the light death traps and stuff will be down so you can just be clear about where you want to go and go there so we'll we'll keep up to speed and continue because you both accent each other and balance each other so beautifully. And it's a true honor. And thank you for all of you out there that had the courage to listen to something that is a little bit, you know, like scary for a lot of people. We're just getting started. I know, I know. But thank you for doing that for your education. It's only through education and an open mind that you can truly practice wisdom.