Cosmic Brilliance - EP55-Kingdoms & Rivers of Hell, Reaper Rules, & AFTERLIFE OPTIONS with Apollymi & Dr. Amir - Part 3

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Welcome to Part 3 in this series. We have two favorite returning guests: Apollymi Mandylion, Dragon Fae Super Soldier, Celestial, and 1st Princess of Hell, and Dr. Amir Jahangiri, who holds seven degr...ees with all abilities as a Void Black Dragon Protector and the creator of the matrix. They have both been to the Hell Realms AND Kingdoms in Heaven, as well. Before we go into greater detail in today’s show, please listen to Part 1 and Part 2, so you are not lost. Today, you'll hear the most amazing positive updates, but as you know, we don't have time to repeat them, so take the time to catch up. There are many Afterlife Options, which is why Apollymi especially wanted to educate you on the importance of knowing ALL YOUR CHOICES BEFORE you die, so you learn after death what to ask and take informed charge of your Afterlife Options to ensure your soul's safety and further growth choices for your future reincarnations. Hundreds of stories are available written by people who have had near-death experiences, which are valid and useful. However, it is RARE to get truthful facts of what happens when you cross over, when your life cord is cut, so you can no longer return to your physical body left behind. Cosmic Brilliance channel teaches everything you need to know for your maximum soul freedom and informed free will choices!

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Welcome to Cosmic Brilliance, folks. We're really happy that you're here. Please make sure and listen to Part 1 and Part 2, so you're not lost because you know in our shows, we don't have much time to repeat things. And we are going to continue on into greater detail and some fascinating topics. The title of the show is called The Kingdoms and Rivers of Hell, Reaper Rules, and Afterlife Options. So for part three, we have our two favorite returning guests, Apollami Mandelian, dragon-faced super soldier, celestial, and first princess of hell, and Dr. Mir Janjiri, who holds seven degrees with all abilities as a void black dragon protector and creator of the matrix.
Starting point is 00:01:13 They have both been to the hell realms and some kingdoms in heaven as well. So welcome you both. Thank you so much for your valuable time. I know you've been out there in the trenches a lot. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. You're welcome, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Okay, so first I want to do a really brief recap. Then, folks, we're going to have Amir do recent updates like we did at the start of part one and part two. And then we will continue with the subject matter. So just a really brief recap for part two of what we covered for the newbies. We covered that hell is located just outside of Hanova, source creator's first law of one universe, and hell, according to Apollomy, was the first thing in existence created outside of Hanova, located at the bottom of the tree of life, closest to the tips of the roots. All types of beings can exist in hell because hell is located close to source, and so therefore can contain all soul consciousnesses and physics slash abilities. So Apollomy previously explained why hell exists as the main hub for neutrality, believe it or not, on taking in souls for afterlife and for their karma or carmetic evaluation. Amir did a great job of using the Tree of Life model and again covering that the farthest tips of the roots are referred to as the underworld and the upper branches of the tree of the tree.
Starting point is 00:02:52 of life contain heaven's vast kingdoms and beyond. Within one realm, there can be several kingdoms for different cultures and beliefs in one dimension of heaven or a particular kingdom of hell. So heaven or hell are actual dimensions for souls to exist in. There are many afterlife options, which is why Apollomene and Amir and I wanted to educate you on all those choices, before your death, so you learn to ask, ensure, and take charge of your afterlife options and future reincarnations. Please know that this series is Apollomis love, so she gets 80% of the show, and our highly honored guest, Amir, has been gracious to offer his valuable time and expert knowledge on this subject, as time permits. So that's how it is set up. Both guests started part one and two with absolutely
Starting point is 00:03:57 amazing details. You must listen to them of a war against source of all that is in mid-April 2025 and current soul auditing that is happening across the omniverse, soul cleansing with the vine fire, and they explained beautifully what that was, and that we are on a positive timeline allowed only an individual ascension focus needs to happen for our soul evolution. So that's your recap. So Amir, would you like to start by sharing any current additional updates from after part two what we share? Absolutely. So first thing I would like to extend my warmest greetings to our beloved audience, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I hope you're doing really well. Thank you for your time. So probably we're all feeling. turbulence and chaos, heavy energies. And you may be rightfully asking, what's going on? What on earth is going on? Well, what is going on is that many beings that have had historical access to humanity are no longer existing.
Starting point is 00:05:08 They did not make it out of the divine audit. And so therefore, we are cut loose, we are free. Now, that doesn't mean that the behavior patterns, habits, and cognitive processes in the minds and bodies of humans have been corrected. So you may have heard the term of non-player characters, meaning human beings without connection to spirit, without a soul. They will still go around acting on their behavior that is habitual, on cognitive and mental processes that are habitual.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And so it will require the job. death of this generation and rebirth into the next generation for them to come into a healthy body. Some beings are too damaged and traumatized. There is no going back. The destruction is too comprehensive. And we see this in the world stage with all the war and chaos and aggression and bloodshed and poverty, slavery, drugs, debt, all this nasty stuff. It is coming, bubbling to surface and being purged. And what is required from us in this moment, first and foremost is discernment. And there is infinite hope as we see people no longer buying into the mind control that used to work not too long ago. They see it for what it is. And so right now, please use your discernment,
Starting point is 00:06:45 be healthily skeptical. Question everything. And you. your heart, your brain and your soul to evaluate things correctly and you will not go astray. The best that we can do in this turbulent phase of transition is to be sovereign and not be part of the problem. And so therefore we are moving into softer times as this poison is percolated out and things will calm down once and for all. We're going to through the storm after which we will have the calm, progressively moving towards the new golden age. This is the most chaotic we've ever been.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And so that's a little update for everybody. The message of hope. Yes, and so important. And just a reminder of when you were and I were talking, you said people should be seeing the improvement, or shall we say the baby steps of the golden age, within a generation, which is now 100 years, could be 100 years.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Is that correct? Absolutely. The souls that would reincarnate by cheating or by the manipulation of the reincarnation mechanism, they're no longer there. The reincarnation mechanism itself has been liberated and cleansed. Many souls will not choose to return. That's natural.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Ask any light worker. They say, oh, I'm sick to death of this place. Okay, there we go. case and point. And so there's going to be a gentle decline in human population, in earth population. First and foremost, this is not a cause for alarm. There's too many of us. Every piece of land is farmed. There's no place left for animals. Where are these creatures left to go? And then you see them being purged as they are vermin. No, they are rightfully here. It is their home too. So with the overpopulation being solved, then there is enough for everybody.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Things are going to soften, become more enjoyable. The matrix is going to be rolled off. So once those last souls are going to be purged, that illusory matrix, which has achieved this purpose, is rolling offline. No more cray cray, more softness and cheesecake. And we're on the positive timeline is discussed. Oh, yes. too.
Starting point is 00:09:15 So hang in there, folks. And thanks for all your hard work, especially light workers. Paul and me, do you have anything you wish to add to that? Well, it's still going to be a bumpy ride before it gets better just to let everyone know. It's not going to be a magical, peaceful moment. But everyone still has to play their part. And again, no ETs or entities are going to come down and fix things for us. They give us the knowledge.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They will not, like a good parent, they will not come down here and do it for us. We have to grow and learn on our own with guidance. So, and there's plenty out there, not just us, but everyone has to play their part and be proactive. And figure out, again, as a whole, as a community of what you want. What is it that everybody wants for the future? Because as co-creators and creators, we can put that into the hologram to change reality and be proactive through our action steps too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 All right, Appalling. Now, folks, while Apollommy, you're getting out the Golden Contract of Protection to read? Yes. Okay. Folks from part one and two, we are including the Golden Contract of Protection for all of you. We are not going to mention many names in this show. We had been given permission in part one and two to name some names. And the other names were leaving out.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But the names we name, we don't want to call in or have them pop up or have them be mentioned. used by any member or subscriber in any way are bothered. So Apollami is going to read the golden contract of protection that comes from source, and that means that they literally cannot hear or show up for during this entire video production. So I get here. It's a long word. Okay. I call upon source creation.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I create a goal. Holden contract for this video recording that no names of beings and conscious souls tied to them mentioned in this video via verbal, written, thought, or light speak by any conscious being who watches, listens, receives, or participates in any way, shape, or form of any part of this video will be summoned, be heard, or recognized by the entities mentioned by true name or affiliation of name. by anyone who speaks them from watching this video or the knowledge received by it. No conscious being or AI shall be allowed to use any of this information in the video of any part against source creation the entities mentioned in the video or to their own benefit or change any timelines in any plane, dimension, realm, universe, or omniverse. Let it be in all space, time, and existence of the omniverse of Hanovian source creation and throughout. So be it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:51 If I may, I would like to initiate a flow of healing, cleansing, and transmutation for everyone who is hearing our voice. So by the end of this session, they will be refreshed, balanced out, and feel amazing. Now if this is aligned with your highest good and highest soul purpose, calling to my beloved beloved source of all sources, source of all things in all domains, asking for fresh new light, light never used, never circulated, never recycled, light for the purpose of cleansing, healing, renewing,
Starting point is 00:13:28 and balancing the light body and physical body of everyone that hears my voice and hears our voice, pulling in the flow, gentle yet powerful, washing through your light body and continuing to work on your behalf as long as it serves you. And so it is. And so it is. Thank you, Amir. Appreciate that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So now we'll get into it with another group of very important key players that Apollominy briefly mentioned in the last part. called the Reapers. I'm leaving out the grim part. The Reapers, who generally are the first beings, believe it or not, that we've heard and missed, that you meet upon, quote, dying. Then she will explain the gates of hell entrance, which is a real thing, and later serve as a tour guide describing the three rivers that lead to the various kingdoms of the hell realms. And so, Apollommy, will you please start with who created the reapers briefly, and then the deep significance of the reapers, what they do and how they are needed for protection? As we had stated, kind of like in the first episode,
Starting point is 00:15:01 One of the Immortal 7, who is one of the princes of hell, ended up creating the reapers. This is why they have the golden contract, which we'll explain in a minute. But the reapers are created and governed by Prince Uranemus, and he is the first in charge. he made the organization to have entities basically act as failures between life and death. So what that means is if anything, not just beings, but anything dies completely, other than like trees and stuff like that, any higher conscious being, I should say, ends up dying, a reaper will come and gather the soul by cutting the silver thread or whatever
Starting point is 00:16:06 color thread that you have. There are more than one. They mean different things. And what happens is they take this soul and then they take that consciousness to wherever that consciousness wants to go. If it wants to go back to its highest self, if it wants to go back to, or if it wants to be put in a specific afterlife, they will take them, safeguard them, make sure nothing hurts them. Okay. And that is why you're listening to the show so that you will understand the options you have to ask. Okay. So let's backtrack a little bit. For those of you that have never heard of the thread, it's usually referred to as a silver cord. And most people, it can be golden. It can be different colors, which are more rare,
Starting point is 00:17:07 but a silver cord that connects your physical body to your astral body or soul. Once and please know that the hundreds of books out on near-death experiences do not count for what we're talking about today because none of those beings died. The cord stayed connected so that they could come back into the body and report what they experienced. What you are learning is only what, after dying,
Starting point is 00:17:39 what you need to know so that you can plan before your death, have it in your consciousness, and ask the questions, and direct your life. So that's one of the reasons we're doing this. So the reapers also, as she said, will cut the silver cord, which means you no longer can return to your body, therefore death, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:07 And why don't you talk about that and the census information connected to that? I didn't know how much detail you wanted me to go into in the first part. It's okay. Okay, so when a person dies, a reaper will generally come in and cut your cord. Now, this only really works to a certain point. Most people will have a reaper who shows up if they have gone through the natural process of reincarnation, which means that in your last life, before you got into this one, you went to, a deity who had
Starting point is 00:18:54 who had taken the golden carmetic law an oath to source itself, the almighty source itself in being able to reincarnate you properly. So there's no
Starting point is 00:19:10 technology, there's no roundabout way that Amir and I talk about that a lot of negative entities are using. This allows source to know where you are, to understand that you went through the process naturally. And so you are assigned a reaper upon your death, which means one will show up. Now, if one does not show up, something's going on that shouldn't be, and or you got reincarnated through other means. That was
Starting point is 00:19:45 not part of the natural order. So when a reaper cuts your cord, it makes a sense. that that soul has been acknowledged, it basically means that that soul has died and that a reaper is there to witness it. All right? Now, upon that, the soul has many options, but it is the reaper's job to protect that soul while the soul who died is going through their transition to their afterlife. So what that means is that the reaper's is there to protect them from negative entities who are going to take their soul. Not having the soul not get lost because the Reaper service is free of charge. Well, later methods might not be so much.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So it is always good to make sure that you stay with your Reaper until you are at your final destination. And once you get to your final destination, final destination, then you get censored again stating that that soul has been received to a proper care of another being. But we'll get into that later, correct? Yes. Okay. I just want to make sure I'm not getting too far off track. There's a lot to cover. No, you're doing beautifully. Thanks. I think it's probably a good point to add to people how they'll know it's a reaper that they need to ask. They need to ask about the carmatic oath because, as you said, reapers don't lie and how reapers will show up so the soul doesn't freak out.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Correct. Most reapers are going to show up if they understand that the conscious entity who has died. cannot handle such things. So they're going to show up as your favorite pet, your family member, you know, your favorite person, anything to get you to be able to go with them. And this can be a double-edged sword because some of the negative entities will also do this. They will also manipulate you into thinking that. But there is a trick that you can do to make sure that it is a raper.
Starting point is 00:22:15 there is a phrase that you can say because reapers cannot lie to you they cannot lie and the phrase basically is are you a reaper who works for euronemus because euronemus created the reapers and are you here to take me to my destination i ask you this by the truth oath of source this is another phrase that you can say because i do believe believe we gave one earlier as well. So you can say either of these phrases or something along the likes by mentioning your anemus, by mentioning that the being in front of you is a reaper, and they cannot lie, and mentioning that they are under the oath of source for truth. And the reaper will have to reply, and any entity will have to reply, and they have to reveal their true self, especially if you ask for it. And
Starting point is 00:23:14 a reaper will always have a silver insignia on them. Like here? It generally can be anywhere that the reaper themselves, because reapers are generally actually other souls that have taken a contract to agree to be a reaper. You get paid and all this other stuff, but we'll get into that much later in, like, episode four. But they all will have the same marking.
Starting point is 00:23:46 of source, so of one of the immortal sevens of source. So they cannot lie. And they have to tell you verbally that, yes, I am a reaper, or no, I am not a reaper, because if they do not belong to your anemus, don't go with them.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Do not go with them. They're not part of the original contract of source to fairy souls. Okay. And so folks, that's really important. Always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always ask questions. If any being is from the light, they will never get mad at you asking questions, okay? They might get mad at you for asking some questions, but if you ask them for truth, they will not be mad at you for asking who they are and who they originally work for.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That involves discernment, you know? Yes. Yes, exactly. So now, yes, Amir. Something that works in all domains, whether you're in a body or out of a body, wherever you end up, it's invoking the name of the beloved source. That is powerful. That seems to be the key to all problems.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And so there are many times where out of duress and stress could be stressful learning that you have shed your body and so on. So if you forget everything, just remember this. In the name of source, I ask for truth. This always works. So beautifully said, Apoll and me, thank you very much for that. Now, there's a lot of sources. There's prime source creators, I mean, source creators and stuff. Source, source.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So by prime source creator of all that is? What you want to do is you want to ask for the prime source creator consciousness. of the omniverse. Okay. So you're not talking to the source creator consciousness of this universe or the one adjacent over. We're talking the whole like quantum omniverse, which is basically Hanoba. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So like the Hanobian conscious omniverse was all of creation and all of the avatars of source. Okay. Of the Immortal 7. Because the tricks in the details. Yeah, because like, I have a jug of water. Like, are you my dad to me? Like, its prime source would be this universe is consciousness and all of its atoms and everything else. So, yeah, it's tricky on words.
Starting point is 00:26:30 It's basically what you are doing is you are invoking a contract that already exists. So wording is important. Okay. Thank you. Both your specificity is wonderful. Now, what arises for people, okay, so say the Reaper didn't show up or, yeah, or say they found out that the Reaper wasn't really a Reaper, right? Now, we know that people can be atheist, they can be agnostic. The Muslims have their own tenets for religious beliefs. The Christians have the Yeshua Christian Heaven.
Starting point is 00:27:11 you know, Odin, I think, who's an also true human species, has a palace in Valhalla. They practice, I believe, a polytheistic religion that honors Norse gods and goddesses like Odin, Thor, and Freya. And Odin, by the way, we've mentioned this before, Amir is an aspect of Odin, along with doing many other things. So, except those guys just like to drink and fight in Valhawah. Okay? And since it's honor. So that may not be your style. You might might want one of the other realms. It just depends. What do you think? What do you think, Odin? Hey, hey, whatever you like. Yeah. So do you want to talk Apollo me a little bit about, you know, if someone just says, okay, Jesus, can you help me? Or what? whatever, is that honored? Okay. So we're going to back up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:19 For those who don't have a reaper, who a reaper does not show up for, you can always call for one. Always. If a reaper does not show up within five, ten minutes of you dying, because it does not take a reaper to cut your silver cord. Okay. You can die without a reaper. A reaper cutting your cord is more of a census. of stating this soul has been claimed and taken and is now protected by Source itself for the next process. Someone who dies whose court is cut naturally because it will naturally disintegrate if the body is too damaged or, you know, to go back into. And a Reaper doesn't show up.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You can call for one for free, being like, source, please send me a Reaper. I wish for protection. There are other entities that you can call as well. The reapers of Euronemus aren't exactly the only ones. If you follow a certain religion, the Valkyries. There are many, many different forms of religions who have their own version of reapers. These are not made by Euronemus. They are made from the deities themselves who have hopefully, you have chosen one that has taken the
Starting point is 00:29:41 carmetic oath of source that allows this deity to go through the natural process of reincarnation protecting souls and housing souls after they die. Odin is one of them. He has his valkyries and a few other beings who will come and, you know, take souls to their version of heaven. Or obviously if they don't meet the qualifications, they go to hell. No. Which is not a bad thing. We'll get into that. Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad thing, and we will get into that. It's not that strict.
Starting point is 00:30:18 You're going to, if you don't like to fight, drink, and be honorable, courageous. And we're going to be using this as a great example for why hell is not a bad place necessarily, and why getting into certain celestial heavens can be a little bit tricky. complicated because there are certain tenets that you have to abide by in order to get in. And this is why hell is a neutral zone. And we'll get into that more a little bit later. So, again, make sure these reapers also from other religions still have to abide by you asking them. Are you a Valkyrie from Odin? I demand that you tell me the truth according to source creation of the omniverse of all that there is.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And again, those versions of reapers have to oblige by telling you and showing them their true forms. Okay. The law still applies because they have taken that golden oath. They're still under creator, they're still under the prime source creator's acknowledgement of their job and duty. So if someone is fooling you, you're still going to see that as the truth. of they are not this person. They will be like, no, I am not a Valkyrie of Odin, you know, under truth oath. And then you can figure out what to do from there, which will give some examples of what you can do.
Starting point is 00:31:55 So, if you have a different religion or whatever it is that your spiritual path follows, you can always ask your deity if a reaper doesn't show up for help. They're like, hey, I have died. Can you please send somebody, you know, to protect me and come, you know, for them to come in. I would, I don't like to word the use claim, but basically escort your, your conscious being soul to wherever it is that you're going. Now, some people don't have a life pass. They don't, they're not very spiritual. And this can be a little bit more complicated. You can still some, and a reaper, you can still ask for a reaper. It's not, it doesn't, reapers don't have anything to do with what life path you follow or spirituality of any kind, but they will be there to help you and to
Starting point is 00:32:54 take you to whatever destination that you want to go for free. I put for free on there as a very big exclamer. Um, yeah, he's over there shaking. Die to get something free. Is that what you You're telling me? I hope not. Sorry, folks. If I may add, it's an act of service. Many souls are aware of the chaos and the mess that has encompassed earth. And so living beings become aware of universal law,
Starting point is 00:33:34 and they form contracts or bonds of friendship, companionship. And so the belief system that you hold is very, important which comes for you if you take certain oaths of let's say worship especially but it's like water through the wheel so this flow of souls going through a particular system powers that system and so many religions have endeavored to get as many followers that they can just to get energy out of this whole thing the important thing is to know that we are always free anything but this is an illusion and so at any point when you say
Starting point is 00:34:14 oh hell no I didn't sign up for this you know screw you guys you're a bunch of monkeys I want to go somewhere different that is absolutely within your rights and as an aspect
Starting point is 00:34:28 as an aspect of the beloved source of all sources you can do this in fact you don't even have to come back to Earth you can say okay I've learned my lesson I'm going somewhere else oh let's go to the Arcturian They seem like they're fun. And then you spend a few lifetimes and no, you guys are boring.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I want war. Let's go to the Asgard. Hurrah. You see, this is the truth. Do not be afraid. You are free. You choose. It's always choice.
Starting point is 00:34:56 There is always choice. Nobody can force you unless they deceive you. And there are carmic repercussions for that. And so now we are in the age of liberation through enlightenment. Thank you. Don't be afraid. you can choose so much that was really important and that was something i wanted to ask you because this is another reason folks why you want to do your homework and inner work forgive yourself
Starting point is 00:35:23 let go of all guilt because when you don't you can be easily manipulated okay do you want to talk about that ameer a little bit of course it's all manipulation now If you're an asshole when you're alive, you're an asshole when you're dead, you see, I'm sorry for the colorful language, but shedding the body doesn't change much. And so therefore, if you carry density, your transition is going to be difficult. So attachments to quote unquote unfinished business down here. You want to see who wins the horse races or the baseball game. That's dumb, but many people stick around. for equally foolish things.
Starting point is 00:36:13 What happens to my money? What happens to my stocks? What happens? Hey, shed. The thing that will liberate you is a very simple mantra. I release in love everyone and everything. And then you are really free to choose, free to see. Now, if you believe you are going to hell, guess what?
Starting point is 00:36:33 You're going to the version of hell that they have taught you. Fire and brimstone and eternal torture. And if you believe that you're going to stay there for a little while and be purified, that's what's going to happen. So very much so. The belief systems are not shed after death. It's very important to evaluate them under scrutiny, right? We have to question everything. And if your heart and your soul tells you, okay, this is benign.
Starting point is 00:37:00 This is compassionate. This has the aroma of the beloved source of all things. Then you accept. Okay, continuous evolution. That sounds good to me. That's where I'm going. Do I wish to be burned over and over and over? That sounds psychotic.
Starting point is 00:37:15 No, thank you. And that version, believe it or not, does exist. Don't take my route, okay, because that's what I used to be. Please, please. Cheesecake is so much better. Also, the death traps are back and the manipulation and, oh, you need, you know, you are better. So, folks, we can't emphasize this enough. Do your homework now, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:38 because that freedom, that cleanliness, it's not about perfection, right? That neutrality, but that wisdom and knowledge will give you continual freedom. But not if you don't know, not if you don't ask. And go ahead, go ahead. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Again, this is why the rule of ascension is so important because what you learn down here you integrate into your astral body, which is your soul, and therefore your soul still has to take on that carmetic debt. Your soul might be a little bit different in personality and attitude,
Starting point is 00:38:20 and, you know, all plenty of us are like, well, why the heck did I do that? Like, I would never consciously do that. And it's important for you to link to your astral body, because when you start ascension, you start merging your astral body with your physical identity down here. So you don't do stupid things that cause you carmetic debt and then you can start to learn about yourself more and take control of your own destiny of where you want to go in your afterlife. Because once you die here, you still have to pay that carmetic debt wherever you're going. And it could impact which heavenly celestial plane that you get to go to in heavily kingdom or you get to go to various. other places, you know, to cleanse your carmetic debt. And it isn't heaven. So heaven is like when you don't have any carmetic debt and you choose to go there. You follow all the tenants that they have
Starting point is 00:39:18 set down for their kingdoms. We'll get more into that later. But, you know, there are plenty of places who will cleanse your carmetic debt and you take your repercussions for everything that you've done. Some of them are a bit more nicer than others, but it just depends. So it is important for ascension, for people to learn ascension, because when you're done with that carmetic debt, you still get reincarnated. But you're not getting reincarnated with the octurians who are decently high above the scale. You know, they're way above 3.5, which is most people on this planet right now, your astral body, like, evolution consciousness may have only evolved to, like, fourth, you know, octurians are about fifth, sixth, seventh, and up density, depending. So it's
Starting point is 00:40:13 so important for you to understand that your ascension here carries over with you the knowledge for your astral body to ascend so you can get reincarnated into better places. This is why they have the term, everyone needs to work to heaven. Because if you want to get to those 12th density, 24th density, you know, planets and the plane of existence itself, your soul has to be able to vibrate at that level. Otherwise, you can't exist there. It's too painful. So do yourself a service. Do yourself, do yourself a favor and work on. that ascension. Yes, which we've done shows about, we'll do a few more, but we've done the seven tiers of ascension and all kinds of things. So on our shows, you can find the information that you
Starting point is 00:41:09 need. But thank you so much for tying that in so beautifully. That is so, and I just have to add one more thing that seems obvious, but bears needing reminding myself and all the time. Any unfinished business do it now, because that continues. you. So anybody who is mad at you is you having a hard time forgive. Do your attempt, go to them, write them and say, I am truly sorry, because sorry goes a long way, by the way, rather than the pride. I'm truly sorry. Can you forgive me? And they'll say probably most of the time, yes, unless they're, you know, whatever. But at least you've done the effort. Because, Everything is known in the Akashic records.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Your intention, your motivations, and why. There is no secrets. There's no hiding. So put the effort out because a lot of people think it's about being forgiven by others. That's the first step. But the thing, once someone else forgives you, that allows you to forgive yourself. And you not forgiving yourself is the reason your density is low. Because of the guilt. Does that make sense to you guys?
Starting point is 00:42:31 Considering I went through all this to actually get my redemption arc, like, yes, I did a lot of bad things in some of my past lives. And, you know, a lot of the stuff that has happened to me has been full circle. But I, in a mirror knows this, I could not forgive myself for some of the things that I did. because I didn't have that closure. Whether they were going to forgive me or not having them acknowledge the fact that I tried to do the right thing by understanding within myself first that what I did was wrong. And then go to them and talk about it. And sometimes it's, you know, oh, well, I did this really terrible thing. Say, like, I killed somebody, okay?
Starting point is 00:43:26 out of whatever reason, you know, you go to the people's family or whatnot, or you go to the soul of the person that you did that to, and then you're like, hey, I'm sorry about this. This was my reasoning, even though sometimes it's not a very good reasoning because it's selfish or childish or I didn't have control of myself, whatever reason, you know. But it's up to the other person to say yes, no, or maybe I need time to figure this out. But that's the first stage. And then the second stage is you go to the person. And then the third stage is whether that person forgives you or not, you have to analyze. Did I have control of the situation? Should I have acted differently? Most of the time, yes. But that comes with ascension knowledge of learning to be neutral.
Starting point is 00:44:19 You know, I overreacted in my personal stuff because I was an animal stuck in a cage with no help. So what I did was overreacted instead of looking at it in a different way to take the proper steps, to free myself, to take the proper steps to do things differently with a different outcome versus just destroying everybody. So, you know, it always seems impossible sometimes, but there is always another way. Sorry, sorry for interrupting. Go ahead. Well, let's look at the purpose of why we come down into this reality. It really is a very efficient, though difficult way to learn lessons. So that is the purpose.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And so we may owe someone a debt of life. So we may have caused their physical death in a hundred incarnations. Sometimes souls get entangled in such ways. but then one liberates themselves and learns from it and through one or two lifetimes causes the ascension of the other and then all things are forgiven because that really is the purpose once that other soul also elevates that's okay water under the bridge thanks for the lesson thanks for the fun i killed you a hundred times you killed me another
Starting point is 00:45:45 a hundred times this was entertaining now let's get on with it you see the purpose shouldn't get convoluted or forgotten it's evolution So maybe the damage you do in a thousand lifetimes can be undone in one. Really in a way that both souls agree, hey, this was awesome. Let's continue. Let's continue upwards and onwards. So it's not really a numbers thing. Sometimes we get bogged down in the scales of justice and so on.
Starting point is 00:46:16 But divine justice and the justice of the infinite cosmos is more complex. It is more benevolent. It is more all incorporating. So more things come in. You remember who you are. Why you came down here? Okay, you killed me a hundred times. That was interesting. I don't want to do it again. But hey, worth it. And so on. So yes, we shouldn't be too harsh about these things. Love washes everything away. Really? And that expression of love starts with the self. and then once we are full and there's overflow, we pour it upon the cosmos.
Starting point is 00:46:56 And so we shouldn't be too strict. At the end of the day, it's all good. Well, said, and the emotions, especially if they're not released of shame and guilt, will densify you. Completely. Like, I can't ascend when you're out, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:47:18 You can raise in vibration, but you're going to hit a cap. And that's the problem that a part of me had with this is I always hit a cap. I was always high vibration. I always had a lot of abilities. But because I couldn't forgive myself personally, you know, you can't get past certain barriers. And once I hit that point of neutrality and ended up getting my closure, it was so freeing. Like, this huge weight just, like, lifted off, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And I was, like, completely on another level. And it helped my neutrality even more to be like, oh, well, I should have done this, like, thousands of years ago, because honestly, like, according to this person, it wasn't that big of a deal. Even though I've been torturing myself for eons, literally to the point of ten, tears, you know, so. Well, I think like what you both said and Amir also said is it's not about how many times or how long because times are relevant in the ever present now. It's about the integration and the sincerity. If you're sincere, that's what we'll get into later, what reformation takes, what redemption takes.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It's the sincerity. And a person can tell whether you're going, okay, I'm sorry just to shut you up versus I'm truly sorry. And that moves a lot of the stuff. But anyway, these are really, really, really important points to work on now, right? Yeah. And so basically what I'm trying to say is if you don't finish your business when you die or before you die, it can really bog you. down for not only ascension, but you end up just collecting carmetic points in a negative way
Starting point is 00:49:26 because you're torturing yourself, which you're not supposed to do, by the way, learn that the hard way, because you keep adding on, oh, well, nothing good's ever going to come my way. So why should I act like it? Why should I live my life if this is all that the universe is going to give me? you know, or you, you care so much about money or like the specific thing versus having faith in the universe that they're going to be taking care of, you know, you only have so much control over certain things. And so you can only control what you can control. You can control yourself and the abilities that you have, but you cannot control other people. And for some of us who are like, oh, well, I'm just going to hell because, you know, I hit some poor dog with my car, and now my whole life is a wreck, so why should I continue to
Starting point is 00:50:21 ascend? Because I've already killed an innocent creature. I'm going to hell to be punished. If you believe that and continue your life, I mean, obviously you need to be sincere about doing the wrong things that you've done, owning up to them, and then working to transmute past that in a healthy manner. You know, like having the recollection, having the phase of trying to make it right, just because you do something wrong doesn't mean you can't try to make up for it and make it right. Whether people accept it or not, that's their problem. But at least you've tried.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And people will see that, but you have to be legit about it. You can't just be like, oh, well, I messed up, so here's some flowers, you know. It's got to come from your heart. And so what you just spoke about, this is the mechanism of the divine fire that has been used to balance things out in the cosmos. It's not about punishment or cruelty or vengeance. Every action that may be seen as short-sighted or evil or ignorant or harmful or self-serving, it is coming from an origin of imbalance. What has caused you to skew off balance in such a way?
Starting point is 00:51:41 that is removed. The essence, the whole thing is not evil or distorted. And so that being is shed, is purged from, the imbalance is purged from the being, so they may continue to evolve and ascend. And so once someone acknowledges this, takes in this process of transmutation, whether through fire or through light, makes no difference. That imbalance causing the harm and suffering is gone. And even if there is not forgiveness from the other side receiving the harm, that is okay. At a more evolved level, you may serve them in a way that is worth a hundred times that's hardship or suffering that they experienced. So it's mutual evolution. You see, when you start from yourself, it has powerful repercussions across the cosmos. You start undoing
Starting point is 00:52:35 certain damage, correction waves, start going out. It's all here now. It's all here now. past and future. So it is what you hold in right now that is important. You start with yourself and things will fall in line. They'll fall into your lap for you to do that which is right, undoing the damage. It's all very beautiful when you look at it in this way. So again, we have the absolute freedom. We're down here really serving each other, although we may hate each other's guts in our short-sighted way for a little while. But even those inflicting acts of cruelty upon each other are teaching the other parties something. A lesson that we require. What is wrong about this? Hey, I kill you, you kill me. I kill you, you kill me. Who learns first? Who evolves out of
Starting point is 00:53:25 this cycle of death and violence and aggression? That's what we are seeing right now. Certain parties require this. It's ongoing in the world. Just look at the news. People slaughtering each other. Will they learn? I say yes. It's the time for it. So all and all, it's all good.
Starting point is 00:53:46 So don't be too harsh on yourself. Know that there's always a way back home. So thank you so much for that. And I love your short saying that I quote all the time from you is all love is self-love. So thank you for that. Amir. And okay, so let's, wonderful, wonderful, really important points. I mean, we could stop now and what you guys shared is the most important focus for people. So thank you so much. Now, for those that, you know, we'll eventually maybe hear this show and have no idea about anything
Starting point is 00:54:26 or maybe agnostic or whatever their choice is. I believe there's three choices that Reapers can do for you. And the first one, Apulme covered, which is basically they come, they're in charge of you, they're illegal, and they can teleport you to a kingdom of heaven that you want to enter or
Starting point is 00:54:47 that. We haven't gotten to the ferrying boats on the rivers yet. So they can teleport you to that. Now, the second option is if you, the second choice is more like going to take you to the gates of hell, I believe, and we'll have
Starting point is 00:55:09 Apollomy. And that's say if you have accumulated carmetic debt, you know, points. And so it's not like you might be immediately going to a certain heaven realm or something. You don't even know. So, so hell as, the hell realms, as Apoll and me expressed in part one, and two. Offer soul well, retrieve where you get to rest between reincarnations neutrally and have a dreamlike reality of your dreams until you're ready to reincarnate. Two, on vacation on the surface of hell, which is, you know, basic, but still a vacation, and other kingdoms, which she will share. So say if you have accumulated, say upon me, if someone's accumulated carmetic debt.
Starting point is 00:56:08 The Reaper will then teleport you to the gates of hell that are considered, shocking, a neutral zone for census and evaluation, right? And so talk about what they'll see there like, Osrael, the angel of death and a little bit about that. So say a person has a certain religion and they're like, well, I get to go to heaven, right? Like, the Reaper will teleport them to their destination of heaven. The deity of that celestial heaven, whichever religion it might be, will come out, show your Akashik records to you, and then show the tenants to get into that kingdom of their version. All right? Not every version of a celestial heaven's kingdom has the same tenets. People from a Arab,
Starting point is 00:57:05 religion of the multiple ones are not going to have the same, all of the same tenants as a Christian one. Though they do share quite a bit of similarities, there are subcontract tenants that sometimes you have to fully abide by in order to get in fully, or say you weren't like the best of person like a Christian or something. So instead of hitting the seventh tier of heaven, you're only going to hit the first tier of for that kingdom. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:36 So you might not get like the full best afterlife because you didn't follow the subcontract here, tenants. And if you don't follow them completely, they will reject you and be like, no, you're going to go to this alternative place because you either have too much carmetic debt to be here, you know, or you didn't take the contract exactly
Starting point is 00:58:00 to be able to, be here. And that's a tricky part. I think we'll get into that one later, correct? Yeah. So we'll talk about that. And so they will send you generally to their mere afterlife of what the discipline area of accumulating
Starting point is 00:58:22 carmetic debt place would be. Almost every religion has a mirrored place. For the Norse mythology, it is the realms of hell, even though it is one of the old it is the oldest one and hell is a neutral zone so if if you don't have a certain religion that has a celestial plane that you can go into most souls will actually go to the realms of hell this does not necessarily mean that you have a accumulated carmetic debt hell does take place people and souls who have who are like innocent and we'll get into that in a minute too but remember it is a neutral zone for for souls and so if you were in a celestial
Starting point is 00:59:16 plane and they rejects you a reaper can disappear it is your right to resummon a Raper being like, hey, source, I need a reaper to take me to this place that this deity says that I need to go to because I just didn't make the cut this time, maybe next time. And a raper will show up and then they will teleport you to the destination, either the realms of hell or one of the other sub- realms of the disciplinary actions, not disciplinary, sorry, of the carmetic debt cleansing area. is. Or you will have to take a boat to travel through the river of death, basically, to go down from the top. The celestial planes are usually between the middle to the top of the life of tree, and the
Starting point is 01:00:14 death river runs from, or the Carrion River, runs from the top of the life of tree and goes all the way down to the roots. And this river we will explain in a minute, correct? Correct. Yeah. So the Reaper will teleport you to the realms of hell. I say realms because it is an entire empire if you really want to think about it with a lot of sub-kingdoms and a lot of sub-dimensions that have their own kingdoms. That gets complicated.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I'll explain later. And so they will teleport you to the gates. Sometimes there's a line. Sometimes there's not. It just depends on how busy of a day it is. You got to remember, this is for the entire omniverse, not just this universe, not the ones adjacent, everything in existence for the entire omniverse
Starting point is 01:01:01 that the Immortal 7 have created. All these souls are standing in this line that have to be evaluated and reincarnated. So bring a good book to read is what you're saying. If you can bring a book with you or something because you can sometimes take material things with you. I would. You might read it 25 times over if they're really busy, but it's okay.
Starting point is 01:01:30 You know, I have to say that, you know, I have, I thought so many of these things were myths, and I enjoyed myths, but I thought they were missed. And as you're about ready to describe, the real gates of hell, what's there, the lines and stuff, is things we've been taught, you know, but not all the truth of it. but the things we've been taught and it just cracks me up, you know, that that that happens.
Starting point is 01:01:55 So continue. So they're in a line at the gates of hell and there's all kinds of astral body, species, beings, everything. And there's everything from negative, carmetic, neutral carmetic, even positive, agnostic, atheists, whatever. they just end up there for a census and evaluation and stuff, correct? Correct. So again, it's a neutral zone. So there are souls of many different types of religion, paths, you know, and some people don't have religious paths, and some souls are just neutral, which is why it's also a neutral zone.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And so they're all standing in line. There are guards who walk the lines to make sure that no one's getting bullied, no one's getting mischievous with each other, you know, the residents of hell are not messing with these souls. There is divine contracts in hell that any soul who checks into the kingdom and who is under the emperor and empresses, which are immortal sevens, ruling and protection that no souls are to be tampered with by the residents of hell upon death. So it is basically, like for their rules, I'm sure there's some circumstances. I'm still learning about them.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But usually, if you, like, literally try, if a residence comes over to a soul that is protected, whether it's in the vacation area or the standing. and lying and I mean if you push someone it's you're not going to die okay a resident of hell is not going to die if they just push a soul but if you attack one full on with the intentions of hurting or destroying that resident will usually get put to death so it's there's a lot of rules protection there yes there's a lot of rules and regulations that go into this so they have guards that walk the lines There are these massive iron, they're kind of like Gothic, like gates that have a huge fence line that go, that stretches kind of for miles. But, and you're kind of in a cavernous, a huge cavernous area.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I mean, these caverns are huge. You really can't see the ceiling too much, you know, because it's all like low lit. It's kind of like a full moon type situation. that's really bright with like a lot of campfires around. Like that's the type of lighting that hell usually has. So, you know, there's no like sunlight unless you're in the vacation area on the surface with all the floor on fauna. But and there's guards there. And then there's a huge desk.
Starting point is 01:04:55 There's a huge black desk that is actually kind of plain. I don't know what is with him. Like he, I mean, he has a sense of style, but his desk area is. Like he's got like paper books and paperwork and stuff on it. And Asriel, the Archangel Asriel, is the attendant who actually takes everyone's name in for the census when you log into the kingdom of hell. So you walk up with the Reaper or the Reaper like puts you in line and says, okay, stay here so that you can check in. if you leave, they tell you this, if you leave, we are not responsible. So if they go out of the area down the pathway of the tunnel where the river meets,
Starting point is 01:05:51 because there's a dock there, where souls come in from the river, and they get on that boat, hell is not responsible for their decision because you have the free will to leave. You do not have to be there. until you log in. Once you log into the kingdom, it's a little harder to leave, but, um,
Starting point is 01:06:11 so, is the log in like a cosmic quantum glass pad or something, like to have everyone's name? And that gets registered almost immediately, like light speak does, as soon as the cord gets cut, right? Then the name,
Starting point is 01:06:28 when the Reaper, when a Reaper cuts the cord, like, it's pretty much almost like light speak technology throughout the, Omniverse, source knows that that court is cut. And so it goes into the Reaper census. But that doesn't mean that you check into a kingdom. Once you sign into a kingdom, like, okay, Christianity, St. Peter, St. Peter's at the gate. There's always a gatekeeper, always, always, always. Once you sign in with
Starting point is 01:06:55 that gatekeeper, you register to that kingdom, which means you have to follow that kingdom's tenants for Cormetic Debt for however they do it, which is why it's important to know your education, and how the reincarnation process works and everything else. So a soul would walk up to Asriel, who used to be an angel of death, by the way, but he retired from that after the great fall and ended up becoming the bookkeeper for Hell's Gates. And so you walk up, to his desk, you tell him your name, if your soul got cut by a reaper and you already knew where you were going, you know, just like, well, when I die, I'm going to hell, you know, those kingdoms will automatically have a possibility of where your name might be in the book.
Starting point is 01:07:55 If you got reincarnated and said, when I, before you got reincarnated, before you got reincarnated, say I was with Odin before I got reincarnated and I told Odin I want to go to hell when I die or I want to come to Valhalla when I die. They will be expecting you because you are making a sole contract of where you want to go when you die. That doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get in if it's a celestial plane because you have to earn it. But obviously like going to hell is a neutral zone so you don't have to have to have 10. There is no tenants to get to hell. And that's the biggest thing between a celestial plane of heavens, any heavens. You have to follow tenants versus hell.
Starting point is 01:08:42 There is no tenants to get to hell. Even for a very pure soul who has followed all the golden laws, all the golden rules, when you get to that point and you end up going to hell because you have no spiritual path or no religious path, Um, we'll get to that part in a minute on what happens to them. And it's not what people think for the most part. So you walk up, they will be expecting you or not expecting you. Um, if you're not expected, he will write the, your name in the book. And then you will sign it stating that you are logging into this kingdom and you accept all of the rules. and then the gates will open
Starting point is 01:09:35 and then you will be escorted with a guard to go through the gate. To a particular location that you requested. So you will actually go in front of one of the Immortal 7. Which used to be Lady Hell's
Starting point is 01:09:54 doing that. Lady Hell and or Euronemus or Mastophiles, basically. So, and you will go in front of them. You will be judged according to the golden laws of source for carmetic debt. And then you will be taken to your appropriate area. If a pure soul walks in and is judged, not judge, sorry, is evaluated.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I'm working on it. If a pure soul goes into, in front of the, one of the, one of the, of the Immortal 7 and is evaluated as a pure soul has followed all of the golden contracts, all of the golden rules. They have two choices. They can, well, technically they have three. They can get reincarnated immediately if there's a body that resonates with them, no matter where the ascension level is.
Starting point is 01:10:59 or they can reincarnate into a dimension that their soul can reside that their ascension level allows, or they can get put into the soul well if their soul is just really tired, been like, I might be a pure soul, but I went through a lot of trauma, you know, I've worked out my trauma before I got here, but I'm just so tired. You can get put into what they call a soul well, which is just kind of like a holding Bay Area. And in there, you will have your purest form of heaven, of your perfect afterlife, basically.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Now, if you're a soul that has worked through the trauma, but you're still kind of a little bit emotionally bound, you might not have the best afterlife in the soul well compared to what you could have if you worked through everything. thing. You know, some souls will have a good life. They'll have family that they, perhaps their kids had died or their spouse had died. And they're still holding on to that emotional trauma a bit. But they were still a pure soul. They still did everything they could. If they don't, if they don't finish their business of having that emotional trauma and they go into the soul well, their afterlife might not be the best. They might have a, like a dream,
Starting point is 01:12:30 of having that spouse with them, but it's not real. It's, you know, they know it's tangible and stuff, but they know when they get out, like that trauma is still there. It still carries with you. This is why it's important for you to not have any baggage when you die. Like, you just need to transfer and ascend through all of that. And no, that so well is very guarded. It's very protective.
Starting point is 01:12:58 No one's getting in. to come and tamper with it, you know, there's regulations and it's protected by source itself. Okay, nothing is supposed to happen to that. And then, which I don't even have access to that. Like, yeah, it's very protected. And then, or other than the soul well, hell actually is kind of a plan toid for the kingdom of hell, not the realm, the overly empire of hell. the kingdom of hell, which is where the souls go, is a huge planetoid.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And the surface of it really kind of resembles a little bit of Earth where there's many different environments. And this place is super protected. Okay, nothing is supposed to come in and tamper with anything. There's no killing. There's no robbing. You still have to follow all the golden laws on the surface. But it is a vacation spot. you know, kind of like going to the Bahamas or Mexico.
Starting point is 01:14:00 There's not like cell phones or anything. There's no technology that's high up. It's kind of more of the colonial areas, but like, you know, you're still going to have a place to live. There's communities that are there. You're interacting with real souls. And some people just go and have a good time. Some people stay there for a few millennias because they like it so much.
Starting point is 01:14:24 And, you know, this is the, the area where they're just having a good time waiting to be reincarnated. Some people don't leave. You know, so, and, but you have to have clean carmetic debt in order to go to the vacation areas. Now, if a soul has carmetic debt, no matter how much it's accumulated, if it's not something that can just be dismissed, and there are laws for that, light things, you know, like, oh, I stole a candy bar when I was five. because I walked out of the store and I had no complication of what money was. You are, yeah, like, who hasn't done that when they were a kid?
Starting point is 01:15:05 You know, like, that's still carmetic debt, but it's like not even a slap on the wrist pretty much. You know, nothing, that was the only bad thing you've done and there's no, like, accumulation for that, you know. That is something that's forgiven. So they're not going to pay you for that. And then you can continue on with either afterlives that you want. Now, for those who actually have bad carmetic debt, you know, say, you know, oh, I did all these terrible things like, you know. Beal stolen and debt. Yeah, like I stole a whole bunch of money from a bank or like, you know, I was a drug lord with no morals and no class.
Starting point is 01:15:52 you know so whatever i don't judge i mean i do judge but i don't anyway you evaluate you evaluate i evaluate i evaluate i evaluate there are certain things that cause a lot of carmetic debt that people need to they didn't learn their lesson while they were here obviously and so they get taken to what we call a the correction in hell very evolved souls, they choose to go the other way. Oh, why would you ever want to do that? Well, it seems from a point of neutrality you have access to incarnation in many different forms of vessel that you can't access from the side of light, quote-unquote.
Starting point is 01:16:41 So you wish to be reincarnated as a very long-living genie. Again, you have access to 3D Earth, 4D Earth. but there's some wisdom there that you want to accumulate or be born as a Sequoia tree with 3,000 years of life connected to the earth and channeling divine energy so sometimes the wisdom that we seek as a soul is not contained by humanity
Starting point is 01:17:09 we have to open our minds we're not the only game in town so much life exists not all of it is human And so sometimes we acquire wisdom in a non-human form. We may want to be an elemental. We may want to be a dragon. We may want to be a reaper, right? So you see, there's much that can be offered at that state. It's not all about fire and punishment and BDSM and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's about wisdom. It's about wisdom. And we cherish this as souls. So the other thing, veering off course, going into, let's say, walking down into the river, what happens to you? It's souls that are traumatized. They say that nothing is enough. And so what is purged is the identity. We are all shards of the fire that is the source of all sources, and that shard is returned to the divine fire for new identity to be established.
Starting point is 01:18:13 You say too much trauma, too much heartache, I want to start fresh. And so by divine grace you may be given some place, not zero, maybe a new point of start or origination for you to continue. This flow, it's like the flow of blood through the body. It goes up and down. Every part is honored. Every part has a value. So, yes, it's a wonderful domain.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And perhaps when you've played all the games and the light, you may wish to play some of the games in the darkness. It's all exciting and it's all worthwhile. That's very important. Thank you for adding that. Because it's for maximum soul evolution, you can spread out to the breadth of creation. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And learn a lot of wisdom. Okay, so folks, what we're going to do is because we're moving right along and we're going to have Apollomita scribe starting with the ferrymen and yes Karen actually exists for those of you that have studied mythology and she's going to describe
Starting point is 01:19:22 that and really generally the three rivers of life but the two were particularly concerned with and what Karen looks like what the boats look like
Starting point is 01:19:37 how you pay him So let's do that first and we'll end with a tour of the rivers. Okay? I just wanted to add something for the reapers because we wanted to do like the normal case scenario. For those of you who are working for higher ascension, if a reaper ends up showing up or you call one, you can ask them to go, say you don't want to be here anymore, you don't want your shard to exist anymore that you are now. You can ask them to be like, I want to, I want this being, the person says they want that being that shard to go to their higher self. They don't want to exist anymore.
Starting point is 01:20:20 They don't want their astrobi to exist anymore. And the Raper will actually take you to the domain where your conscious shard will go through the paperwork to go back to your highest self. No BS, no nothing. that is your right and your will if that is what you want. So just to let you know they can do that. Yes, thank you so much. That was an important point we wanted to cover. And also, once you get back to your higher self,
Starting point is 01:20:49 you can then chart again or do whatever you want to do. But you still have to only get reincarnated through the ascension process that you have made. Even though your higher self might be a 25 billion density. when you shard down, depending on the shards, like, I can't really say too much because it's too much creator stuff. Yeah. Depending on the shards' consciousness level of vibration, they can still only be reincarnated through their acts of ascension, if that makes sense. So you still have to ascend in order to be able to comply or to, contribute to that for your higher self because not every person's higher self is at the same
Starting point is 01:21:43 dimension and level unless you're going to absolute source which is another topic that we'll get to maybe later if I'm allowed to share yes okay that that's that's very important all the options you you have and of course many star seeds for those listeners that are star seeds are not only getting picked up by their families, but they'll probably return to their home planet or wherever they want to go to also. Yeah, if you had a sole contract before you came down here in this life,
Starting point is 01:22:15 generally your consciousness, the Reaper can take you back to your body that's in stasis in the ship or your planet or wherever. They can also do that as well. And they will protect you. So, you know, the dark forces aren't interfering with that. Yeah. Okay, so let's have you briefly describe the three rivers, the prismatic, the river of death, the river of life, what that looks like.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Okay. And then we'll bring in the ferrymen. Talk about that. And then we'll do the tour. Okay. So in the life tree, there are three rivers. There is the Akaron River. which I can't pronounce correctly, obviously. It is a river of basically black water, most like void water, but it goes from the top of the life a tree and goes all the way down past the roots. And then there is the golden river, which most people would consider the river of life. It has golden water, not metallic water, but water that is gold. and it goes from again the base of the roots and it travels all the way up to the top of the tree of life.
Starting point is 01:23:39 And then there's the prismatic river and this one flows right between the center of both of them from both the roots to the top of the tree. And the flow of this one actually has two polarities. But that's about all that I'm allowed to say about that one. It's almost like within our own bodies. that a mirror teaches and all that it's very similar to that okay so and so the black waters okay you have to have to have to share uh why you uh the black waters you said uh can't you can't see through and you do not want to fall into those you don't want to fall into any of the river follow me did folks
Starting point is 01:24:26 you don't want to fall into any of the rivers at all um The prismatic one is astrali almost impossible to get to, and it's very protective. But the black waters, you cannot see the bottom, and it is energetically very thick. And there are several ferrymen who traverse these waters. So say that you got scared and ran off from a Reaper because you didn't know any better, or you're just like, I want to bum around. That person wants to bum around as a ghost for a while. The Reaper will go away or you run from them,
Starting point is 01:25:08 and now you have to find your own way back to any of the afterlife stuff. So eventually you can find the rivers, but there is a price to pay for running away from source, basically. You decided to take your own destiny into your own hand at that point, and now you've got to find your way back. At any point, you can call for a reaper, and it's a free service. But for souls that don't know, they have to pay. And they usually have to pay something in value.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Again, the mythology says two coins. It's actually one coin to get onto the boat. This coin doesn't have to be gold. It can literally be any pens. So any sort of metal. It's a trade for trade is basically. what it is. Caron is a coin collector.
Starting point is 01:26:02 You won't admit it, but he does have a variety of them. And we're not just talking Earth. We're talking almost everywhere that has the ability of trade of some sort in any a part of the omniverse.
Starting point is 01:26:18 He also does riddles. If you can guess his riddles, you can get on the boat. That sounds like sphinx stuff. So it doesn't have to be gold. It could be a diamond It could be necklace. Okay, so that means that, oh, here's the important point, because I remember I asked you and I go, well, okay, so everyone keep their wedding rings on when they die. They keep a necklace on because you might have to trade that.
Starting point is 01:26:43 And, you know, the ancient Egyptians, right, they would put gold coins over their eyes when they, you know, crossed over and went with all this stuff. And you said that actually gets transferred astraly. So anything you are wearing on you at that point in time can actually bind to your astral body if it's strong enough. So again, a lot of ghosts and stuff, they will appear of the clothing of when they died, you know, or even not when they died, but of their favorite outfit. And so you have the ability even as your spirit to manifest this stuff. and, you know, it's not going to hurt to keep a couple of coins, pennies on you even. Again, it doesn't have to be gold. It really doesn't.
Starting point is 01:27:33 And it doesn't matter if you're cremated or buried. It still will transfer to your astral level. Okay. Because not everyone's like you where you can manifest out of thin air. We haven't, like, gotten that one down yet. So either you and I have to die together so I can get your ability. But anyway, okay, you have to have to, this cracked me up so much I fell off my chair. You have to tell me Karen's, okay, so we have Odin here with cheesecake.
Starting point is 01:28:04 We have... Mine's cake or cupcake. We have the Princess of Hell with cake and cupcake. Okay, so Karen loves... Reese's peanut butter cups. Wow. Excellent. So there's a bit of trivia.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Now, how are you going to get that astralese? Your name is also likes Rhesus peanut butter cups too. So just let you know. You're, you're, who does? You're an an anina. Oh, good. And tuna? No.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Yeah, and tuna. Okay, so everyone stock up on Rhesus peanut butter. And you could just keep paying and go all kinds of places to have some fun. Okay, that just cracked me up, but it's real. Okay, so when a soul dies and runs away from a Reaper, again, you have the, but even if you run away and you bomb around Earth as a ghost for 10 million years, and you're like, you know what, I'm kind of sick of this place. You can always call for a Reaper at any given moment.
Starting point is 01:29:18 It is your source given right to do so. Just don't forget that you can do it. For a lot of souls, though, who don't. know. Either they have to wait for a spiritual healer, such as like myself or Amir, or I don't know if you actually offer that services, to actually open the gate to be able to either call a reaper for them or to send their shard to one of the celestial realms so that they can get help to unbind them from here. You know, that is a whole other thing. Um, which we can actually get into maybe if you're interested in that like in another episode like part four
Starting point is 01:30:03 five okay but most of the time they have to a lot of spirits in the omniverse will find the river and then they have to pay their way for the ferryman to be able to board the boat which looks like one of those it's just like one of the the like italian boats with the pole i'll include a picture yeah Yeah, it is a classic. Weirdly enough, those boats can hold a lot of souls, but they try not to like overpack everything. Everyone's like, oh, the astral's infinite. You can have an infinite amount of something. That's actually not true, and you don't know physics.
Starting point is 01:30:43 That it will fit up to 20 souls, but you don't want to fall over. Yeah, you don't want to fall into the rivers for several reasons. One of them, some of them can give you special properties if you manage to get out. I ended up falling into one of the rivers and a carron just kind of looked at me like I was stupid and I had actually been able to hold on to the pole of the dock and then get out and he's like you're lucky most people can't even get out of that thing
Starting point is 01:31:10 because there are very strong currents in there and once you get in it's very hard to get out and you don't want to reach the roots of that because there's a very special place at the end of that river where there is no return which we'll get into once we start going to the lower rivers of the Carron River. And those that have listened to her other shows,
Starting point is 01:31:35 she talks about silver spiral and golden spiral. So golden spiral is kind of think of that golden energetic water-like river layline energy. It's like a heart pumping, right? Yeah, the golden spiral pushes outworld, the silver spiral sucks in. Right. So the silver spiral is the river of death, and it eventually goes into a black color according to Apollomy. And because it has a silver spiral with all its gravity and physics, it can drown you down to the bottom level where you don't escape, right? Well, you escape, but you don't know that you've escaped. we'll get into that in a minute that's a riddle
Starting point is 01:32:28 yeah so once you get on the boat you have the ability to get dropped off anywhere that you want along the docks but I do warn you be careful of where you are going and where you want to go don't get off on a place you don't know because you could be stranded there for a while
Starting point is 01:32:47 anyway you go down the Akaron River and depending on where you're at, it's going to take a while. Like, time is kind of wonky, always. Okay, before you start with the river tour, describe to people what Karen looks like or what the team looks like. So the ferrymen who are signed to, they're kind of like reapers, so they still fall under a different organization,
Starting point is 01:33:26 but still the same organization. Euronemus is still their boss. They are still dressed in the black-clooked robes that a lot of the reapers will be in. They don't really have size because they're not there to cut the cord, which is what the safe is for. So they literally just have a magic pole that every ferryman has their own style that they use to push off the docks or to, push onto the docks and that's theirs. Sometimes you will see
Starting point is 01:34:00 crows or ravens flying up and down this river. They are messengers along with occasionally you can find silken glass spiders. I'm not very fond of the spiders because I don't like spiders so much but you know. Those are in the water? No, they don't touch the water. But they will be on the boat. do not squish the spiders the spiders are also messengers oh okay so do not take your shoe off and hit the spider on a Karen's boat he gets very mad okay etiquette okay etiquette wow okay and does it is it the classic look like hooded never looks at you or you can actually generally see their faces um Karen
Starting point is 01:34:53 looks like an elderly man about in their 40s to 50s, no offense. You know, just a little bit of forehead wrinkles and stuff. But he's a very stoic sense of humor. He does have a sense of humor, but you got to rub it the right way.
Starting point is 01:35:10 He is just kind of like he's not really like grumpy most of the time, but he just has this very calm, cool demeanor attitude. You know, so when something rubs his funny bone I mean, he'll do a, you know, like that was entertaining because he's been alive for so long.
Starting point is 01:35:27 He's pretty much seeing everything. Like a fake laugh. Yeah. The only time you really see his eyes light up is if you bring certain candy to him because he's got a sweet tooth that nobody really knows about. We can't relate, right? Every single time I go to see them, he's like, did you bring me anything? And I was like, some things never change. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Okay. So these currents, these energetic water-like currents are moving very fast. So you need to be safe. You need to be taken on the boat. So your two options are the Reaper either teleport you to a place or you get on the boat. Right. To go to hell's kingdom. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Is there anything before we start the tour where Paul and me will start, you know, the main river is Asheron and she will continue her talk through. Is there any last general thing that any of you wanted to add before we do that? Don't fall off the docks either. It's the same principle. Okay. The rivers are eternal and they exist at a fundamental level accessible also from the 3D. And there are certain magical practices which allow you to tap into the river. Now, in a social, form, they are the milk of amnesia. If you fall in, it messes with your memory of self. And in physical form, in correct approach with reverence, and under correct protocol and understanding, it is that flow of life. So they have a function beyond the transportation.
Starting point is 01:37:17 It is that ebb and flow of life that exists everywhere. Many magicians are aware of these rivers And they have application in tantra Which goes from pleasure to healing to manifestation to evolution So I would kindly advise our wonderful viewers to look into tantra Many people just think
Starting point is 01:37:50 I don't know what's wrong with me today. Many people think that it is just a mechanism for having longer orgasms. That is not true. It is a flow of life that the body understands as pleasure. And so tapping into these rivers will allow you to extend your life quite literally. It's life force. And in a soul configuration, if you fall in, it is the milk of amnesia. you're intoxicated and you just flow and you're happy as can be
Starting point is 01:38:22 until you get caught by a twig or something and then comes the process of detoxifying yourself and remembering who and what you are. It is so potent that you become overwhelmed. It's the highest high of all. And so as a soul you want to avoid it is too potent. Both for the, both for the, Black River, River of Death and River of Life, both of them?
Starting point is 01:38:52 Both of them. Are they? You'll be tripping as a solar energy and you'll be so happy and you won't even care where you land. It will take you a while to snap out of it. Yeah. Oh. Wow. And of course we know that even water energetically carries a property of communication and magic and all that.
Starting point is 01:39:13 So it's all part of the same thing. Wow. Okay. All right. So that's fascinating. Thank you. Apolome, did you want to add something? It was like you had a thought there. No, I'm good. Okay. All right. So let's start. So Apollomene was saying she's going to be the tour guide to take you through an explanation of the rivers and the kingdoms of hell just so that you can become familiar with them. so you can make choices if you want, just general. And because as far as I know, this has never really been done before,
Starting point is 01:39:51 I haven't found too many places. So this is a real treat. And so you're starting on the main river, which is Asheron, and it goes from the top to the bottom. So the Reapers. So imagine you guys on that boat with the Reaper and say like up to 20 other souls hanging out. And then you arrive at hell, which is what you were saying. saying, right, which is the ruling kingdom.
Starting point is 01:40:17 And also, aren't there a lot of animals and plants and different entities in these kingdoms like Apolli? In the kingdoms? Uh-huh. Well, yeah, I mean, every kingdom. So if people think about for the empire of hell is made of many dimensions, right? And we're talking like source being the zero dimension. It has everything, every frequency that you could think of.
Starting point is 01:40:53 And then when we move up in dimension, I know that's hard for people to understand sometimes, the frequencies become more limited. So they only have a base value of physics that are obtained. And then the more you go up, the more physics you start to obtain. It's like sacred geometry almost. I can't say almost, but... So the different kingdoms have different floral, different fauna, different entities, different beings that exist within these realms, these kingdoms, these dimensions. Some of them can only interact through certain elements, like elements of shadow, elements of fire, elements of the fourth dimension of physical matter. So in the rivers the river of a carron actually runs all the way down through all of these.
Starting point is 01:41:55 And so when I go through these realms, you have to understand that this river is a continuation all the way down to the roots. And some of the, the hell's realms start about at like the base of the tree where the ground would be and start to go down into the root area. That's a great explanation. Okay, so the Ashton River then, as you get close to the roots of the tree of life, the roots, it turns into the first river of sticks. That's T-Y-X, which myths have talked about too. And then you had said the river of sticks has an offshoot to purgatory, which a lot of people have heard about in religion. So tell us about that area. So the closer you get to the river of sticks, the more.
Starting point is 01:42:44 more it's guarded. And there are winged, very large winged cats. There are huge serpent that actually reside in the water at this point in time. You have all of these kind of guards onto the sides of the river. And it's still the same property of the silver spiral. These are just becoming a bit more in shifting in density or dimension. And so certain entities can start to exist a little bit more in these. So the river of sticks is basically the second river that starts to go into the root system area. This is where you start actually entering the empire of hell itself. and the river goes into a straight line if you want to think about that going down to the roots of trees and on an offshoot when we start getting a little bit below the river of sticks
Starting point is 01:43:56 and it is the river of sticks that a lot of these guardians are starting to take hold Cerberus and Umberus are basically one of these creatures as well. Yes, they do exist. They look a little different than most people think. I guess you can call them dog-like, but more in a very demonic way. It's not like the Disney version. Serberus has a lot of spikes on him. He is a three-headed creature dog-like. if a three, if a puppy and a dragon ended up having a litter, like,
Starting point is 01:44:40 and the dog kind of got more draconic, like, deeming qualities. That's basically what it looks like. If I was better at drawing, I would definitely like to draw a pitcher. Maybe I can have someone do that, but going past the first gate, basically,
Starting point is 01:45:01 into the river of sticks. you get into a branch off of the river, and this is the coquitas River. This is the branch off river that goes to purgatory. Pergatory is a kingdom of one of the dimensions, because we're going down in dimension. This kingdom is what we call the kingdom of the damned, basically, or the lost. A lot of souls end up here because they don't know where they're going. These are the souls that have lost consciousness or part of it.
Starting point is 01:45:39 They don't really have any recollection of who they are. Like a lot of souls who have been so traumatically damaged, who they don't really know their full conscious selves anymore end up here because they don't know where to go. They don't know where to get dropped off. So either a Karen drops them off here, to where they can wander around for a couple thousand years or so, and maybe they can get the recollection and the strength again
Starting point is 01:46:11 to get their conscious being to the point where they can actually understand themselves, to have full authority over themselves again. Are zombies just walking around, kind of? Yeah, pretty much. Like, if you think about your soul being so fractaled and damaged that you basically have not amnesia so much, well maybe amnesia, but like
Starting point is 01:46:37 you have no, you understand that you exist, but you don't know who you are, you don't know what you are, you've lost your way, basically, on your self-identity. And I don't mean, like, having an identity complex. I mean, like,
Starting point is 01:46:54 if someone got into a car accident, got amnesia, and they couldn't tell you what they even looked like. They couldn't tell you if they like cake or not. Unfortunately, certain consciousnesses get this damaged. And so they end up getting put in purgatory so that maybe they just need a little bit of time to be able to sign that contract to get into the gates of wherever they want to go.
Starting point is 01:47:23 But without having full focus on that of self-identity, you cannot get into any kingdom because you have to have that free will of knowledge of knowing what you're doing to sign in. And so purgatory is a place for those souls. And some people recover and end up being able to go to the docks. It's a free ride basically, if I remember correctly, to get out of purgatory to go wherever you want to. This is kind of more of like a safe haven place. you know um so i have just a side question thank you that's fascinating and this will be for the future part on redemption is are they doing any work with those people to help them remember if they have severe post-traumatic stress like super soldiers who fraction or get fraction 10 000 times is that
Starting point is 01:48:20 part of a future beta possible reformation redemption program because the redemption program is so new and I mean just we're still in beta phase of the redemption program down there it's it's hard to say it's something definitely that I can you know bring out the line and be like you know maybe we should do something to possibly help these souls feed them along because there are cycles so looking at the human body as a representation of the cosmos as above so below, there are functions with organs like the kidneys or like the bowels. So there is a cyclical purge. And traditionally there it would be looked at purging that which is no longer conducive to growth in its current form, which can then be broken down into more simple elements
Starting point is 01:49:22 like fertilizer. Or let's say the purging of urine and feces from the body. this will benefit microorganisms. It is water. It is nutrients. And in its more elemental and, let's say, simple form, it has the chance to continue evolving upwards. So not all designs come to perfect fruition. Certain buildings may have faulty foundation, and so therefore they have to come down. It's still earth. It's still matter that can be used. And so again, these shards, these again, quote-unquote identities, that for whatever reason are malfunctioning, nothing is wasted. That identity that is damaged and no longer can accept growth is broken down into constituent parts to be reused by consciousness in another form. So the essence, the essence is divine,
Starting point is 01:50:18 but the expression is not perfect. We all have that shard of the divine and so beautiful expressions, naturally evolve and faulty expressions naturally reach stagnancy. That is the reward and punishment and so we're experiencing this expression
Starting point is 01:50:37 sometimes it reaches a dead end and there are cyclical purges. Now the redemption process that Apollami has proposed will be like a teacher and healer going in looking, it's like imagine a beach covered by Coca-Cola bottles.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yes. And from these, making something beautiful, recycling. So this is very much so the function of these things. And so if they were allowed to continue circulating, it would harm the health and vitality of the entire thing. So there is a waste processing. In the most loving way, certain things cannot continue going on. And so there's a mechanism for this in the entirety of the process. Wow. I would like to to add that a lot of what we call what what what I define as demons of like conscious beings like someone can start creating a demon from just pure emotion it has a fractal identity and doesn't sometimes it's not fully developed to be a full entity and those consciousness also go to
Starting point is 01:51:52 purgatory as well oh that's so fascinating that's so important Thank you, both of you, to, because when I ask people, do you know the realms of hell, they go, oh, I heard something about purgatory. So that's the thing that comes up, but they haven't heard about all these other ones, which we're going to get to. So, all right. So then basically. So you can get off at purgatory's docking station, but you have to pay to get back on if you're a conscious being.
Starting point is 01:52:27 just to clarify. Wouldn't be my first place to go. But okay, so after purgatory, you come across a huge gate. And is that the first dock on the main river as hell, which you were describing? Yeah. And I just want to say that purgatory has a different ruler than the royalty of hell itself. So it is basically its own kingdom. the person who is ruling it doesn't want their name to be addressed.
Starting point is 01:53:03 But he has his own category of rules and everything for what he does, just because he's in such a kind of a strange governing area for consciousness. I do believe he has taken the... the vow of oath, but I cannot be 100% sure on that. Okay. So. Well, I appreciate his privacy, and I assume that, which is why I didn't ask. So, yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Thank you, honey. Okay, thank you. So, okay, so now we're at the main, the gates of hell, right? So we continue down the river of sticks because the Coquettus River was an off-branch. And now you come across a very large dock. that the souls would get off at if this was their destination that they choose to do so. And this is the docking station for the kingdom of hell. So you would get off at the docking station.
Starting point is 01:54:13 There are guards. They would funnel you through the docking station because it's like the river. And then there's kind of like you a large cavernous like opening. and you go through and the environment changes from almost a cool effect because the river is kind of coolish
Starting point is 01:54:36 for temperature into the hotter territories because the river will actually flow into the planetoid itself and you funnel through and then there's the line
Starting point is 01:54:52 for the gates of hell basically and then of course you do what you need to do, you sign in or you don't sign in. For those who wish to stay on the boat, you would continue down the river of sticks where you would go to the actual underworld for the kingdom. And there's a docking station on that as well. And then it's a little, it's strange, it's a little cooler down there in the underworld, even though, because you're, once you hit the hell's realm, you actually kind of go into a lower part of the vibration of the dimension it's at, which is the underworld. So it's a little bit cooler than hell. It's a lot cooler than hell.
Starting point is 01:55:41 The underworld isn't very warm. You know, it's kind of like a very dank cave coolness. You know, so it's about like 50 degrees, which is a huge transition from hell itself. But it seems, Infernal realm come first? No. No, that's after. More energetic, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we had that wrong during our talk.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Okay. All right. So you go to the underruled. Hades does rule the underworld. He does have the Golden Oath contract. Generally, if hell is overflowing, I know that's kind of weird for people. But again, everything has a finite amount of energy in space. even though it can be very maximus large.
Starting point is 01:56:27 We're talking about all the souls, or at least a good, like, 75 to, you know, 50% of souls in the omniverse to be in these places. So, and I'm not saying they're all good or evil or anything like that. Most of the time, if you have carmetic debt, you're going to the underworld if hell's facilities are maxed out for corrections. for correction, not for positive afterlife reinforcement. So the underworld is kind of like an overflow. You're not generally going to find anyone who's a pure soul in the underworld. So that's left for the realms of hell to be with. Hades owns it.
Starting point is 01:57:18 He is very stoic, not like the Disney version. He is very serious. He does have a sense of humor, but again, you have to kind of rub elbows with him the right way. Most of the time, he doesn't really like being touched by anybody. He's kind of a germaphobe. So, but once you actually get to know him, he's actually really cool. And I don't mean just because he lives in a cool environment. But, you know, he has a lot of interests and has a lot of hope for humanity.
Starting point is 01:57:52 But they always seem to kind of disappoint him for some reason. so kind of a hopeful stoicism they keep coming back for the same dumb stuff
Starting point is 01:58:07 of course he's disappointed like again come on dude please give me a break I know how he feels yeah really
Starting point is 01:58:15 a lot of us can relate right yeah and it's also Syrbis is also his dog really his three-headed dog
Starting point is 01:58:23 and so Zuberus isn't it are you know like a lot of people claim that cerberus is his but honestly um surbrus and umbers have puppies so literally like a lot of royalty members kind of have their puppies so it's kind of you know like superus might be his but we actually have quite a few same with finner i want to take one of those through the dog part to just for reaction good socialization is a must for these uh puppies Can you imagine? Okay. So way to go. He's okay. So now there's other underworld locations, right? Like something called Dot and Tartis and Tartarus, yeah. Those are more located kind of on the same area as the Cocatus River. There's other branch-offs. that you would go down that branch off of the river and there's several different kingdoms.
Starting point is 01:59:32 And are they known for anything in particular or just other kingdoms you can hang out? Well, Tataris mainly is a prison facility for those who are not so much souls per se. not for those who have died anyway, but just for souls who have committed wrongdoings enough to get any of the immortal's attention. And actually, Tataris is below the underworld. It's very isolated, very cut off from just about everything. Very hard to escape. Did it in 15 minutes, but it's hard to escape.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Okay, and doubt D-A-U-T, is that another one? That one is off the Coquettus River. There are several different kingdoms from all sorts of religions. People have to understand that a lot of religions that are here on Earth were actually from up in space originally too. So, and not even just in this universe, but like from a lot of other universes. When we get to the Golden River
Starting point is 02:00:47 and to the higher heaven universe or heavenly realms, they're going to find the same thing. As above, so below, they're kind of in synchronization with each other. I have found that too with everything, which is why I,
Starting point is 02:01:05 as you know, my interests are, you've got to understand the top and work down. So you can understand. I was going from the down up at this point. Yeah. Well, it's, it's, It's, we're going to make a recipe in the middle somewhere. Well, in order to understand how a tree grows, you got to understand the roots.
Starting point is 02:01:24 The roots. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. So then after that area, then you mentioned the river changes dimensions to a lower dimension. And now we have, I can't pronounce a flag-thon river or the dimension. I'm going to murder it. So the river starts to heat up at this point, and we're past Tataris at this point, and it starts to change color into more fiery red. And at this point, you are jumping down dimensions again into the Platheregan River. And we start entering basically the infernal realms and the abyss. The abyss is first, and then the infernal realms, as we start going even down further into dimensions.
Starting point is 02:02:13 This is where a lot of, um, some, like most people will consider them, like, devilish entities, uh, would reside for the most part of these guys have more of an elemental of fire basis, especially in the infernal realms. You know, they are consciousness. They are made of fire. They don't, some of them don't really have a physical, force. dimension form. That would be left to creatures of the abyss where they're kind of a mix of both. So, these, both the abyss and the infernal realms have their own governing kingdoms. They have their own over person who basically goes to the Hell's Council. This is still all part of the Empire of Hell, by the way. They still have to follow the Empire Hell rules. But they all have
Starting point is 02:03:12 their own cultures, their own governing kingdoms. Souls do not go to these areas. The underworld is the last cutoff for soul reincarnation, reflection, everything else. If you are a person astral traveling who wishes to go to these areas, you can ask a Karen to do so. Most other ferrymen will not go past the underworld. That is their cutoff.
Starting point is 02:03:44 They do not have access or authority. Only Akaron's people do. So only Euronemus's ferrymen do. Okay. And Amir, who gets into trouble, I bet. No, no, no. It's dimension minus nine to minus 12. That's where the good stuff is.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Well, you see what motivates us is different, depending on who we are, at what stage we are. But that's where you find the most sublime wisdom. Again, similar to dimension positive 9 to 12, we've got Arthurians, we've got the white dragons, we've got the lyrens, the orma, so many benevolent, beautiful beings. We should not cast judgment on the other side of this balanced tree of life,
Starting point is 02:04:37 dimension minus 9 to minus 12, if you're looking at a 26-dimensional representation of the cosmos, which is mathematically proven, well, they're the equivalent on the other side. Their high vibration is seen or felt as fire. On that other side, their high vibration is seen and felt as light. The gold and the void, they're both divine. And so the same wisdom you can gain from a dragon, you can gain from a fire being. and I'm interested in both sides of this divine creation and everything in the middle.
Starting point is 02:05:11 So it wouldn't have a place for those that are still at the earlier or intermediate levels of learning. But you most certainly can gain the rights of entry through merit, the same way that Apollomene beautifully described that, let's say, heaven kingdoms, would have their laws in order to admit someone. this is also true on the other polarity, that there are rules of entry. So they don't just allow you in. It would not serve you, and it would not serve the realm. But if you're looking for sublime wisdom,
Starting point is 02:05:50 that which is basically descriptions of the beloved source in another dimension that is highly refined. It is beautiful. So, yes, you can find you can find things to do there, I think. Well, and you helped, in the private show we did, we made public, you helped heal a lot of those fire elementals. I just returned the favor.
Starting point is 02:06:18 There was a recognition of the soul and what it was and who the soul was. They healed my light body and physical vessel, purging PTSD and depression. It never returned, by the way. That's where I discovered I love cheesecake, which is the innuendo for so many things. But yes, then I remembered the same laws apply to angelic beings and beings of fire, so both refined ends of the spectrum and also applies to humanity and every other being in the middle. So there is unity.
Starting point is 02:06:59 It's all beautiful. And mutual respect, good manners, compassion. These take you a long way. So Karen, the boat, the boat dude, you give him a really, really saucy joke and make him belly laugh. Oh, he'll give you a ticket to go wherever you want for the remainder of time. You see, there are these clever ways of bargaining. Or you can take a Palaimese approach and remember to take him the energy of, let's say something sweet and delicious.
Starting point is 02:07:34 I don't know. Some kind of candy. I'm not sure what he likes, but we can experiment. The recent peanut butter cups is what he like. Peanut butter. Hey, there we go. Peanut butter. Since peanut butter works in a lot of domains.
Starting point is 02:07:49 And people have to realize that a lot of the stuff from Earth isn't really around other universes. The universe I come from doesn't have wheat. They don't have cake. they didn't have cake until I brought it back. And it's absurd to people. How does that happen? You know, but it's just like...
Starting point is 02:08:07 Well, welcome to the trade. Yeah, exactly. Everything else that opens up with the whole galactic, you know, trade. So the last seven, I mean, the five, six, and seven are the fiery abyss, the shadow world, and the void, which you both know a lot about. Right. So go ahead. No, go.
Starting point is 02:08:33 So the fiery abyss, you were talking about that what I remember is that the souls that are there usually have undergone some heinous acts according to the law of one. Is that true? No. Souls that are going to have any carmetic debt cleansing will never go past the river that hits the underworld. Okay. Never. No one is, no soul that is going through carmetic debt will ever go past that. If you are astral traveling, you can permit, well, you actually get invited. You can't just be like, oh, well, I'm going to the abyss.
Starting point is 02:09:16 You have to get invited to the abyss. You have to get invited to the shadow realm of this shadow realm. And so when you meet a Karen, you're like, I have an invitation from this Lord or lady from the abyss, from the infernal realm, from the shadow realm, from the void, whatever, and you have to prove it. There will always be an insignia that you will get from whomever down there, or he's not taking you, because that, yeah, it's, it gets very dangerous to, for souls to go past this point, because there is no protection unless you're on a Karen's boat for souls that
Starting point is 02:09:59 go past this point. You go at your own risk. So. Okay, because I had in my notes probably incorrectly that the beings like fiery abyss were ones that were up for consciousness deletion maybe. Oh, no, no, no, no. So there are, well, I'll get to that point once we get to the end of the river. Okay. So the, the Pletheagon River is turned into this fire water, basically, it's not even water at that point. It's literally just fire, but it's still part of the same river. And then as it starts going down into dimension, it starts to turn into this black fire. And the black fire, you start getting into the shadow plane, the shadow realm of
Starting point is 02:10:47 the kingdom. And there's a dock at each one of these, the abyss, the infernal in the shadow realm. again a person who is astral traveling who has been asked permission to come if you astral travel to these places on your own you are not protected by hell's um like overstands of circumstances at all you you come on your own accord there is no protection from you from uh lady hell or uranemus or anybody so do that at your own risk. Again, the shadow realm has its own floral fauna entities. They reside in shadow. So like the shadow on your wall is pretty much the state of existence that you are being in at this point.
Starting point is 02:11:43 There's a lot of a lot less physics that happen in these. So a lot of entities and people can't really. travel there anyway unless they understand the physics of it they have a hard time. They have their own kingdoms, their own rules. Is it in an ultraviolet spectrum?
Starting point is 02:12:06 No. No, this is just pure shadow. Okay. And then as you go down even further, like we're back on the river now, as you go down even further, the black fire
Starting point is 02:12:22 turns into this like massy black liquid almost and it literally has like this weird shimmer to it. Ugh, sorry. I hate after traveling sometimes. Anyway. Because you go there immediately, right? I do. And I'm like, I don't want to touch the river and a mirror might have to come and get me. Make sure I don't touch the water.
Starting point is 02:12:49 Not that I haven't come back before, but it's a pain in the butt and I don't like it. There's a lot of paperwork. Is this the Leith-Leath River? Yes. So once you hit the black void water, this is the Lefet River. And this is the river of void. This is the river that if you fall in, you forget who you are. This is the river that hits the very bottom of the roots and past it.
Starting point is 02:13:15 And we're hitting literally conscious, like prime consciousness at this point. If a soul gets put into this water, they immediately go into source consciousness. There is no contaminating this. There is no literally everything just gets dismantled. Everything. If I may just, I apologize for jumping in. This is now where we're in your understanding too. These are now describing the boundaries of a single universe.
Starting point is 02:13:56 And so this very, very pure, refined primordial substance, now let's call it the void. And so it is a natural barrier or gate between the whole universes next to each other. And then for the purpose of perpetuation of life in a sterile and safe environment universes must be separated from one another. And so the natural consequence of going through, because again, similar to this process of circulation of life within a universe, we have graduating souls which learn everything they need to and they're ready to migrate. And so at the next level of existence, there are ferrymen, or let's call them energetic ubers, which take entire soul families from one universe to the next or from one branch of the infinite fractal of existence to another domain for them to explain. experience more. And if this does, if this does occur in an unauthorized way, there is pure removal of identity. So you go back to source, the beloved source of all things, that which cannot be
Starting point is 02:15:06 polluted. However, we see in each universe through certain technology, there is violation of this, cosmic law, where beings break through one universe to another and another and another, usually those ready to gain entry into, let's say, the refined part of life, plus minus 9 to 12. So 8. Dimension 8 is where usually this kind of violation occurs through technology, 6, 7, and 8. So the middle section of elevation or evolution, examples of which would be the archons, very evolved reptilians, that break through using portal technology, and they run amok.
Starting point is 02:15:54 They make a mess. I call them the freaking pirates. So we've seen what they do here down on Earth. They've served their purpose. But yes, the natural order of things is separation, the same way that we have a boundary, we have a boundary to a single cell. We have a boundary around a single planet,
Starting point is 02:16:16 which would be the atmosphere, a boundary around a universe and then a collective of universes in a local neighborhood. This applies in every scale. Wow. This whole recycling of energy. Everything comes down to energy. Everything comes down to energy. Expressions of source in infinite different ways.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Anything that's possible can happen. It will happen. Oh my gosh. That tour. And then at that point, does the river change to a golden river? Or is that a whole different thing to go back up? So a person, the only souls that would get to this point for a Karen to actually be taken down to this river is if a person doesn't want to exist anymore and just wants to become not of their highest self. but if they want to be one with the prime consciousness,
Starting point is 02:17:21 where they don't want to have self-identity anymore, they're tired of existing, all the stuff. And people have to be so careful on their wording because I see a lot of people in the spiritual ET community being like, I just want to go back to source. And I'm like, you understand what you're saying, right? Like you will have no identity. You become a thought of memory in the grand scheme of things.
Starting point is 02:17:44 You don't get to fractal anymore. You don't have self-identity anymore. So be careful what you were asking for. If you want to go to your highest self, sources right here, your highest consciousness is right here. So if you want to go to your highest consciousness, so you can fractal off again and have reincarnated lives in any part of the omniverse of your ascension level, then you need to be able. then you need to ask to go back to your highest consciousness, not source consciousness, not prime source consciousness,
Starting point is 02:18:22 because you will not exist anymore. Like all of your memories and stuff will go back to... Identity is gone, all reset. Yeah. So it is an act of... It is an act of hardship or... No, no, no. Let's say it this way.
Starting point is 02:18:38 It is an act of knowing sacrospection. advice where you reach a point where you say in the name of the beloved beloved source of all sources the source of all things in all domains oh beloved source there is no me there is only you I am source and many humans embody this they still have the physical aspect but all other, let's say, levels in the intermediary stages are washed away. One becomes an aspect of the void. So that's so important. So this is kind of a naive question.
Starting point is 02:19:24 So you have no memory. You are part of oneness or all of it. So does that mean you can all potential then exist and you can access anything, but there's no ego identity with it? Right. The human exists. This is, again, so this whole wonderful discussion that we have had has been, people have attempted to describe it in a more systematic way available to, let's say,
Starting point is 02:19:56 regular 3D human. That would be tantra. So what Apollami has been describing is a multidimensional understanding of the rivers, the flow of consciousness. what results is the washing away of identity. You acknowledge that you will be washed away, but you already know that there is no you, there is only source. So it's kind of a catch-22.
Starting point is 02:20:24 And so embodiment of the void does have an effect on the physical memory also. You remember very little. You're constantly downloading. you remember no faces, no names, no grudges, no history. It's all been eroded in the presence of that form of vibration. And I've noticed that in you as a void dragon protected. I don't remember what I ate 20 minutes ago. I'm not a void dragon and I still don't know where to remember when I ate what 20 minutes ago.
Starting point is 02:20:57 That's the effect. That's the effect. So if you, it's always an act of, gentle balancing how far down this line of evolution you want to go because certain boundaries of identity are restrictive I cannot accept that I'm just this it is not just this there is more to us and the more of that you accept and embody the less of this can remain it becomes an honored noble vessel giving you an anchor in 3D reality and that is just it and is that and is that a great loss? Absolutely not. You remember past lives and what do you remember? Do you remember
Starting point is 02:21:41 grudges and stuff? No, it's just peaks of love and compassion, sublime wisdom. And so if you have access to it all in one goal, incarnation, reincarnation, whatever, yeah, it doesn't really matter. Thank you. This is a wonderful way to end, part three. It's been amazing and thank you both of you for sharing your firsthand experience in this hard-to-obtain truthful knowledge and appalling me all the work you went into for preparing the details. I so appreciate. And we will be doing part four or we'll get into some exciting news about progressive and more supportive reformation and fun stories and different things like that. because it appears that all of life right now is going through cleanup, evaluation, and reformation. And so if we can look at it that way, it's an exciting time.
Starting point is 02:22:47 And so Amir, do you want to share where people can contact you? And by the way, folks, one of the many things he can do fast efficiently in his car wash sessions is he can remove post-traumatic stress from you, which is a big deal on this planet. So I just wanted to... Thank you so much for being so gracious. This would not be possible without you. And so on behalf of everybody who's benefiting, I'd like to say thank you.
Starting point is 02:23:18 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Clean and correct information is the new currency. And you're the giver of truth. I would like to honor you. Thank you so much. Where to find me, Wizard of Wivenho. dot co.uk. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Oh, thank you, hon. I have so much fun doing this. And no one can contact Apollomy, tough, so I'm not going to even ask her. She's mostly off planet. And she doesn't want to talk to anybody? No, I just want. She has a full over life.
Starting point is 02:23:53 So if you have a question, you can contact merrily at cosmic brilliance.com, and I'll do my best to answer that, as long as it's well thought out, and you've watched all the shows. So you're not asking something it's already been done. Okay, so keep watch
Starting point is 02:24:07 for the subscribers for part four, and I just want to end with a little quote that I just came across. I think it was from Joshua Graham. It kind of matches. It was, I survived because the fire inside me
Starting point is 02:24:25 burned brighter than the fire around me. And I thought that was a courageous. metaphor for conscious evolution. So thank you so much you two and onwards and upwards and upwards friends. Take care.

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