Cosmic Brilliance - EP69-Normalize/Understand the Importance of Your ‘Multidimensional’ Nature & more, with Dr. Joyce Anastasia-Part 1

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

My new guest today is Dr. Joyce Anastasia. Joyce shares her three Near-Death Experiences, each of which provided her with both physical and spiritual acceleration. She holds both Master of Arts and Fine Arts degrees and is a transformational leadership consultant, multicultural counselor and liaison, top intuitive executive advisor, educator, author, and visionary activist whose lifelong passion is to activate human leadership potential for all ages, even if you don't think you're a leader. If you are willing to step forward, the positive future comes from a small community coming together to co-create and exemplify progressive, benevolent, fair leadership that transforms the town, and eventually the collective consciousness of the world - towards our rightful destiny. Earth is a planet that requires taking action. No matter how small the action, it affects the entire collective consciousness. Dr. Joyce earned a PhD in “Quantum Natural Medicine” (defined in the show) and numerous certifications in Dynamic Shared Governance and Natural Quantum Medicine for Self-Healing. She also uses her skills brilliantly as a “Medical Intuitive.” I personally vetted Joyce’s skills and accuracy by having several sessions with her. So, per your requests, I am introducing you to her as a medical intuitive with all abilities -- a fit for everyone - you, your family, and friends who find themselves overwhelmed, fearful, or stuck, or challenged. Think Superman’s sister with X-ray medical abilities, offering turnaround possibilities! You can 100% trust Joyce, and any age will feel very safe with her - guaranteed! Find Joyce’s book on Amazon: 'Extraordinary Leadership During Extraordinary Times'.

Welcome back to Cosmic Brilliance, folks, and welcome to newcomers as well. Our show today is titled Normalizing and Understanding the Importance of the Multidimensional Nature of Your Human Beingness and Potential. So I'm very happy to bring forward today another excellent, easily accessible. an understandable, important, dynamic woman who can help all family members and friends and even young children to start the path of greater awareness about the truth of their being and the multidimensionality, which we will explain and define soon, that they already are but have not been open to before. and certainly this is not covered in regular education. So we have begun the dawn and pivotal age of greater expansion.

It legally started about a year ago. And my new guest, you see here, is Joyce Anastasia. I love that name. Who has both Master of Arts and Fine Arts degrees and is a transformational leadership consultant, multicultural counselor, educator, author, visionary activist whose lifelong passion is to activate human leadership potential for all ages. And this is important, even if you're convinced you're not a natural leader. The future will have new progressive, benevolent, and fair leadership with community mutual action that will evolve this

world faster and will explain that, transforming the Earth and us to our positive destiny. Earth is a planet that whether we like it or not, involves taking action. No matter how small the action, it affects the entire collective consciousness. We will define that term for you too. Joyce is also the founder of Leadbywisdom.com, an organization whose mission is to develop, and expand leadership training that encourages youth and people of all ages to explore their relationships to words such as power, truth, integrity, wholeness, balance, miracles, and heart-centered manifestation to open doors for real positive transformation. She has been providing organizational excellence for a long time and integrative wisdom as a, you could call her transformational leadership

consultant or top intuitive executive advisor or cross department multicultural liaison in institutions and corporations. Or you could call her a global healing consciousness activator. She is all of those. She has also received a PhD in quantum natural medicine, quantum definition. Quantum Definitive will also be described and numerous certifications in dynamic shared governance, peace, ambassadorship, and natural medicine for self-healing using her skills as a medical intuitive and many of you have heard that term and it's been popularized in several books. Think Superman's sister with X-ray medical abilities and turnaround possibilities. Okay. So her depth of understanding comes from her life experience and exposure with many, many wisdom keepers and clients who think of themselves as just ordinary people without ever being taught or aware of their true multidimensional nature.

Which please do not get in your head overwhelmed about. It's really fun and creates a lot more greater freedom for yourself. So she provides transformational leadership consultant for individuals and groups, teaching, training, and facilitation to invite extraordinary leadership during extraordinary times, which is also the title of her Amazon book. So I personally, I want you to know, as usual, vetted Joyce's skills and accuracy by having several sessions with her. So I am introducing her to you as a continuation of providing a focus of healing and contacts that are very effective and you will feel safe and met because she's extremely compassionate and many, many people right now are overwhelmed, fearful, or feel stuck. So as you will soon hear at a very young age, she was deeply connected to what can be referred to, some called God. I prefer source of all that is. This connection ignited in Joyce, an inner heart fire to serve humanity, to honor all beings, and to assist others to evoke their greatest gifts.

And come on, who doesn't want that for themselves? So, yet we don't often know who to go for guidance that you can trust and will feel safe. So welcome Joyce. Welcome, Joyce. It is an honor to have you here today for part one in a three-part series because you have so much wisdom to share in an approachable and digestible manner, wanting and successful at helping and assisting people change their lives. Thank you. Thank you, Marily, and I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you and the way in which you really discern how you present, what you present, your honoring of your guests, your honoring of

yourself simultaneously is second to none around interviewing. And I am very, very careful, and have been very much holding back to be on interviews because of that. of what you of what you do it allowed me to say yes to this and I appreciate it so so very much thank you you're not allowed to make me cry so thank you it's an honor thank you so I'm going to have you first to find the terms because what happens is people will listen to shows they'll hear a term and the brain will go oh I don't know enough of this is overwhelming and they'll shut it down please please hold on let us define the terms and then it'll carry you through okay so I would need you first to define for

our audience what being multidimensional is and why it is important for people to begin to understand some of our listeners definitely understand and are activated, but this addresses and hoping to make more normalized multidimensionality into our conversations daily. And why should people even care? So feel free. So multidimensionality, just like any term, can be defined in a million different ways. many spiritual traditions define it in many ways and what what i will do is to try to express it from my experience from my client's experiences and also uh from a from a deep knowing from the divine what what it actually means so first and foremost i believe that we

choose, we have chosen to be on this planet as a being. And there are, again, definitions of being human or not being human, but let's just say human for now. So choosing to be a human being on this planet is a choice before we come here from my experience. Now, When we enter into the womb of a mother, and there are many ways we could come in, but let's say we come in through the womb of a mother, our mothers that we call mom and dad today, it is, again, a choice. and when we come in, we are allowing, we are asking our souls to come into a sacred human vessel that is being prepared for us, specifically for our learning and expression. And then that entry is not only physiological, it's not only our bodies, But we are coming in to that vessel with many different experiences from other potential lifetimes.

And what is around us? What gets exchanged as communication between our mothers and our fathers in this space? What are they experiencing when we are in the womb? It affects us. This is in part what is meant by multi-dimensional. We experience the energies and the frequencies all around us. They affect ourselves. They affect the growth of ourselves.

They affect the way we think and the way we feel. how we are brought up also affects our multidimensionality, what it does to our healing, what it does to our capacity to be able to exchange with people on this planet. Not only that, but imagine in a more simplified way when we dream. Where do our body? go. We're experiencing a whole bunch of experiences that where we don't get harmed, we in this life, in our human conscious walking life, but simultaneously we are able to experience a dream space

that we're not harming others or we're not hurting others or ourselves in this physical form, but it impacts us. It impacts us in some way. And it impacts on a positive way, too. Let's say we have an expansive dream, a dream that allows us to be superheroes and that impacts us as well. It reflects back upon our physicality and how we express ourselves in this physical form now.

So those are just some examples. Those are great examples. All right. Thank you so much. Very clear. Now, and that's the truth. People were already experiencing socially accepted

multidimensionality but it is not explain like dreams or like deja vu right or like just a mother knowing her kid who's far away

is hurt or many things like that but we accept that but we don't accept the other levels of multidimationality because it's not socially talked about for fear of ridicule. So we and the younger generations are going to end that. That's one of our goals. So one more word to be defined because this is part of your multidimensionality. And it's used in many

different ways like she describes. So Joyce is going to describe how it is defined in the context of this show. And that's the word quantum. You've heard quantum fields. You've heard quantum science. you've heard quantum. But we want, go ahead, Joyce, with that. So just to clarify some things that we've spoken about before, my PhD is in natural medicine, but I add the preface word quantum because the way in which it is taught is not traditional natural medicine. It is through. the quantum fields or subtle fields. So anatomy of our physiology, I had to take. I had to take anatomy. I have to know where the bones and muscles are in our vessels and how they function. But I also had to understand the subtle energy that impacts that anatomy. And there are many overlays of

anatomy that can be presented in, for example, evaded tradition. There are many meridians and entry levels of the body where energy comes in or energy impacts in a certain way. I'd like you to imagine when you go to an acupuncturist. What are they doing? What are they actually doing? There's not a specific point on someone's body, but there's a general region of where energy comes in subtly that impacts the rest of our vessel. So when they put a little tiny needle in a place on our body, it affects all of our anatomy. in a certain way. They are looking at our bodies holistically so that when they put a little needle here, it not only affects that region, but it affects many parts of our being, including the

Vedic nerve that runs straight down our vessel through the nervous system to affect all activities in our vessels. How amazing is that, right? Exactly. Exactly. Good point. So quantum then would be briefly. Quantum would be the study that is

beyond our physical vessels. It is the allowing of seeing the, not only the like quantum mechanics, the impact on a gravitational field in which we live. We live on a gravitational Earth, but there are energies that come from universes beyond our universe that come in the form of frequencies that impact our vessels.

So quantum natural medicine or quantum physics, involves the beyond just the physical concrete A plus B equals C, but A plus B, which involves many mechanisms that we cannot see with our physical eyes, how they impact on our vessels and on our planet. So quantum physics, subtle energy is the field that governs human behavior and healing. Beautiful and simple said. So thank you for that because everyone can relate to that. So now, I think we're going to start now that now that those are defined with, the question of your personal journey of awakening to the truth or multidimensionality of your

beingness. So what was your upbringing like? Were you born with knowing memory and kept it of who and what you actually are? And were you always in touch with being an aspect of source of all that is? Or did that come later? I did not become aware of how early that consciousness was until about a decade ago. But a decade ago, I became very aware of my near-death experience of when I was born. And what happened was my mother was given too much gas, which is a method they used in the the past to serve as kind of a numbing agent to allow for the birth of a child. She's my size, very tiny, was given too much, could not push me out, and ended up having a reaction to the gas and

internally began to get sick, vomit. And in that space, of my little vessel, I was being essentially effiguated by the vomit. And I was greeted by angels, basically, but felt at the time I couldn't define that as that little vessel yet, but rather felt, oh, this is the divine. This is all that is. They're coming to me. They're here. And the message was, Joyce, you could either stay.

and be born into this earth plane, or you could come back with us. And I basically said spontaneously, who could make this up? Really, I'm going to say this beforehand. Are you kidding me? It took me forever to find these parents. I am not going to go through that again. Which folks were going to cover, like, how you do that later, but keep going. That is great.

So I had a very, my entry into the earth, onto the earth this time around was very much connected with source. So I already had an awareness that perhaps Earth was about, making choices but also making choices with the deepest connection with the divine at all times which is where you came from which is where i came so you didn't you weren't affected by the matrix block you this was a workaround for you that's correct whereas all of us folks if you've listened to any the other shows or we describe creation and step there's a matrix that is being lifted as we speak slowly so you don't go insane and the veils so most of us quote had to agree to totally forget who we were so this is a very and in a certain way it's horrific because you were toxified but at the same time

it was kind of a clever way to keep your memory clever truth of who you were clever by the offer of the divine to have a choice to do so Right. It was, it was magnificent because, listen, I have been through many, many challenges that over time clients who I work with get to hear bits and pieces. So there's a part of me that can clearly say to people, I have been there and done that. And it has not been fun, nor necessarily. easy. However, with that entry, with that deep connection, I could more easily fall back on source. Sometimes I would forget. Sometimes I would foolishly not listen. But for the most part, I always came back to that connection with source, always. And that makes sense because my studies for many years

in your death experiences, it's actually going through the canal where you get the programming and coming out. So this happened while you were still in there. And many, not many, but many people, I talk with, have memory inside the womb. But then once they're out, they go through, So that is all fascinating. Plus, you've had, we don't have to get into it,

but you've had more than one near-death experience, right? Yes, I've had two. And they significantly were turning points in my life. I'll just say very briefly, one was around seven. And what it did was allow me to shift from having dyslexia and having a lot of having a. really tough time learning how to read even though I was very bright and loved school but I was having trouble integrating into my physical vessel fully the capacity to to absorb

knowledge and integrate between the wisdom of the divine and knowledge on this planet And so that near-death experience, again, very surprising, allowed for that to happen. And my connection with beings of who were on this planet like Agar Casey, being able to read right after that and be able to say, Edgar Casey, wow, this man was a lot like me. And it was just a joy because there was so much suppression on me from external beings, people, my parents, teachers, that the divine kept telling me, no matter what people say do not suppress this gift. And it's hard to do that as a as a kid. Oh, you're belittled and bullied and. Exactly. Priests don't listen to you. Teachers, it's threatened by you. It goes on and on and on. Yeah.

Exactly. So then the third one was as an adult. And it was one of the few times I completely lost. my trust in the divine and made a choice that ended up bringing me to a place of danger, a literal physical danger, and I almost was killed. And in that space, that was the most significant near-death experience where I got to see not only this life time and the third. things I had done beautifully and the things that I needed to work on or the things that were challenging, but to go to many, many past lifetimes and see how those lifetimes impacted this time. And I was given a choice again in that life. I mean, in that near-death experience.

The second one, I was told, you are not intended to leave now. Go back, honey. but the last one, the third one, I was given a choice again. And I chose very consciously to stay on this planet because I knew I wasn't done with what I was asked to come here to do. And I stayed. And it wasn't easy to say I'm staying, but I did. And I'm very grateful that I did. very great. You've helped thousands and thousands.

I know that personally, and this reiterates the 100% free will that source allows in this universe. This is a universe, folks of 100% free will. Other universes have different percentages and games of things. And again, a quick side thing, I believe that so many advanced souls, because this is an advanced soul game for a lot of beings. So many came in with dyslexia or labels. And I believe that was so they did not get initially programmed in the first seven years of their life where beings are programmed because yours happened at seven, right? So they're not programmed with that external information, which is passable, but really obsolete in most ways.

Would you agree with that? Absolutely. I can't agree with you more. And I saw the wisdom of it as as I gained the capacity to read right after that second near-death experience, Marily. Oh, my goodness.

I get to... You've got the preview and the afterview. That's the benefit of near-death experiences. It accelerates you because, you know, when people cross over, they have all the, you can call it kind of life review if you need that. But you were able to see like, oh, my gosh, oh my gosh, this is what I want to accomplish. You know, here's the thing. And here's what I still need to do, blah, blah, blah, which then ignited you forward to have the strength and resilience to stay in the body. Exactly.

And to learn and absorb the notion of critical intuition. of thinking, which most people do not learn. We are not taught it in school on a regular basis. I was very fortunate. I had fantastic teachers who were, I would deem renegades and often fired right after I had them as a teacher, which is crazy. And I felt badly for them, but they also knew it too. And they would often say, you know, when I was in junior high, I wish I could be teaching graduate university, but we're not allowed to teach these things at graduate university level. So they're teaching it to 13 years olds. I was thrilled. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's that's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Okay, so I want you to share with people my experience of you through having sessions is

what you're able to access because you're basically what I would call unlimited, like a caulcic records, folks, we've described those in many other shows, your highest self or higher self, source of all that is, she acts as easily, your guides and teachers, what I call you is your support team, which once you find out is so exciting because you're not, you know you're not alone, okay? You can communicate with animals, pets, and new children, and people who have recently crossed over, she has an amazing amount of skills. Is that accurate? it? Yes, and it is directly from the divine. Thank you, yes. You keep that humility going. It's the truth. I can never do this on my own. Never. Yeah. Nor would I want to. Yeah. Well, this is people

understanding that almost everyone here is an aspect containing the flame, usually sits here for most people of source itself in a way of source itself exploring itself through us and allowing us free will. That's just a brief reminder for people. All right. So I personally am impassioned about the importance of mutual respect. I've worked with, as most of my subscribers know, I pick a new. usual guests who have a lot of abilities and I'm simplifying to unusual guests that will be very relatable to more. Okay. But because of that, some of the guests, I have to say when I first met them, I kind of weren't, you're kidding. And this is not something I reveal. This is about my own

bias and my own prejudice. And what I found is the most important thing. If I had to be a to sum it up in one sentence, the most important thing for all of us to get along, no matter if they're dark, light, this, that whatever, for the most part, is mutual respect with appropriate boundaries to ensure maximum success in communication. Would you agree with that? Absolutely. And being able to lovingly discern. things to not shame or blame, to allow people to feel completely safe to share all the dark and light of them. Because without which, it is really hard to help facilitate transformation. and I always ask permission to receive this information, but once someone trusts me, I can see it.

And I might not say it because part of the learning is to say, Joyce is going to be shown this. If my soul gives her permission to see it, she's going to see it anyway. So I might as well just say, whatever it is, I fell off the wagon. I used my powers negatively to harm people. Whatever it is, whatever it is. And my role is to be in a space of safety for each human being and hold true to the loving boundaries of you cannot harm other people and nor you can you harm me in this space. So it is both welcoming for truth and transparency to come through, but it is also holding loving

boundaries going forward. Beautiful, beautiful, 100%. Most important thing for people to learn. And as we've taught in other shows and what I just discovered to graduate from this game is dynamic neutrality, which is what you're describing. You're really a cosmic bridger of multiple worlds and everything. It's one of the beautiful, the end between Earth and heaven and all of it. It's just so beautiful. It makes my heart smiles. So let's, now we mentioned before that you were able to see, oh my God, my agreements

and this and that and whatever else. And oh, I forgot to do this. I haven't done this yet. In here, you are at 7, right? So one of the things that most people don't know, you did mention that we all volunteer to be here. Okay. But we also have something called sole contracts.

And some renegades refuse to sign those and just go, Wahoo. You can also cancel. contracts, there's all kinds of things around that. But I want you to share a little bit about individual soul contracts that East Prussian has before reincarnating. And like how you said, oh my God, no way, because it took so long for me to pick the parents, you know, that kind of thing. Yes. Okay. Just as we come into this world with different contracts and different karmic connections that maybe need to be addressed, everyone is unique. Customized. This is where I think

people go wrong. They want to follow a certain protocol. Oh yes, if I do this, this, this. and most of the time it doesn't work. It doesn't work because it's not customized. General programs can be exceedingly helpful to get you out of the gate, to have you learn mechanisms, protocols, healing modalities that help you check out, is this going to work for me? But then it is essential to begin to find out what is my original contract? What is my original reason for being on this planet now? People have a tough time asking that. So here's a

general comment I say to people with the great gift of being able to choose this planet to be on there is also great responsibility we must become re-familiar and re-aware of our responsibility for our own lives, for our own life actions, for our choices. Now that is not a blame and shame thing. This is related to our own souls contract. And if we want to fulfill what we have come here for, and some people are actually asked to come here, I was asked to come here. And I chose yes.

So my contract was related to saying yes to the divine asking me to come back here. And many people are not that way. Many people, it's more they want to come back. They're choosing to come back. So each of those, though, carry with it the potential of this sole contract. So what are we looking for? What if you lived during a time in another lifetime where you accidentally or on purpose were abusing power? And you abuse power with people who had a disability.

And you harmed them in that lifetime. And you got to the end of the lifetime. and let's say you were just coming to the end of your life and you were passing and it wasn't necessarily traumatic you're leaving that lifetime. But let's say that you were given a life review. You're not blamed and shamed. You're looking at yourself and saying, what did I do that was beneficently contributing to the earth? or what was harmful to the earth or human beings or people.

This is what gets associated with karmic death or gracing karma. So if you look back and say, holy cow, I really did harm to those people who were disabled. Okay, I want to go back. I want a course correct. I want to make this right. This is how I'm going to learn as a being in this universal aspect of things. How can I positively contribute?

I am shining light or I am shining light on my own life choice. So that person might set up a contract that says, if I have not learned how to be respectful to all beings, including those who are disabled, can the divine set up something that might allow me to become very aware? aware of treating people of all types with respect. So you may come into this world disabled in some way. And you may at some point want to change that contract and say, I don't want to be disabled anymore.

And there might be ways in which to do it. and maybe not depending upon your contract, especially if you forget what you chose to put in that contract. Yes. Yes. Now, if you did many benevolent things and you're coming back here to co-create something, then there are some things that you contracted for, that were

carmic debt oriented that you wish to remedy, but you have done so much to compensate for bringing light onto this planet and whatever way it might be,

it could be really tiny. It could be saying hello to, saying hello to a child with a large smile on your face. And that may be enough. And if you come to a consciousness of, hey, maybe I could grace my karma.

Maybe I could go beyond this contract without all the details. And maybe I can re-remember. Maybe I could ask to re-remember what the contract was in the first place. I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen many times. I've helped facilitate. people to re-remember so that they can make choices that are really informed choices now on the planet now in their lifetime now and that is one of the things you do and also access their koshchik records because folks leave it or not every thought word indeed we say or think is recorded not as punishment but uh you will be using that for your own own self-education. That being said, I've noticed on this planet guilt and shame and not enough

are the lowest frequencies and our consciousness charts we've shared in the past. The lowest frequencies and the easiest way to be manipulated because people allow themselves to be manipulated through guilt like, oh, this person invited me to dinner, so I have to invite them. No, you don't. You can just learn to receive. But so there's that. casual but then the guilt one feels if the more the line they are with source they're going to choose options and have an inherent sense of what's appropriate at any point but the guilt one feels is individual psychopathology aside it's individually determined so the guilt i believe creates a lot of the karma okay if you felt neutral about it

then your conversation with Source or in Seoul Audits would be, I didn't know any better. Source would say, okay. But now once you know, as you said, you have high responsibility. Do you agree with that? Absolutely. Absolutely. And also, merrily, this is interesting because for me,

especially in leadership, This is from the personal to the global and the global back to the personal. So think about this. We are in the middle of global warming, global warming. Yes. Right. Now, this has been going on for millennia. People forget this, right?

They forget that it's not just happening now. It's happened over. many, many centuries, right? But when you think about it, when you go one step beyond that, the warring is between the warring of separation from source and source itself. Yes. Right? Yeah. And now we go drill down to what you were just talking about, the guilt and shame. Right? So abuse of power brings us to a place of selfishness and desire to be separated. I, me, mine, all about me.

Narcissistic oriented. And the battle that we get impacted by in the subtle realms is, actually very similar. We get influenced by positive light oriented. What are we going to choose? It's like the devil made me do it, right? The devil on the left, the angel on the right? And it is directly related to this. What is the, I'm just going to say in quotes, devil. What does the devil want us to think in that it is a deep separation? Of course they want us to feel guilt and shame. Who better to manipulate and control than people who feel guilty and shame orient.

Who don't feel enough? I'm not good enough. I'm not enough so they can be manipulated for fame or sex or money or this and that. Yeah. Control files. It's an amazing game, actually. Yes. And when you reconnect with the divine and excuse the expression, but screw the control file.

Yeah, it's like. That's right. A flea flicked off the skin so it doesn't bite you. Yeah. Right? I love that you brought this up because. guilt and shame just like okay this gets back to quantum natural healing right remember Dr. Imoto the water were made up of much much water there are many recent researchers

accessing the quantum field, morphic field, that's been around for millennia, you know, it's always there. Just as we cannot see electricity, we cannot see the impact of our thoughts on plants and human beings and beings in general. So, Dr. Emoto, very quickly, all of you have probably heard of this over. over and over again, but it is real. It is real and true. And I've done these experiments myself, literally, where I have taken winter wheat plants equally in the same lighting

with the same water and scent, I'm not crazy about you, I'm mad at you. Yeah. to one, two, neutral, not paying attention at all, ignoring completely the plant, which was really hard for me to do. It was hard for me to do those two. And then the third one was love, love, love, love, love, love. That's right. And literally kissing the leaves on the, as they grew. Now, what happened in my experiment, was that the one that was ignored was the least growth.

Yeah. That was true in Messeros experiment too. Right? Unbelievable. So the warring ones grew, but the loved ones grew robustly, almost twice as much. So what do you think happens?

in our human vessel around that. What are we putting out there to people? How are we warring with ourselves? Okay, so... Right, left brain. Right. Right. We're warring out here.

Everybody's complaining, oh, why are we warring? And I say, it's great to be concerned about warring out here, but let's just handle the warring in here first. Exactly. And if we handle the warring in here, you will begin to see a ripple impact across our nation. It will first start within your intimates with you, your colleagues, the little inner circles.

then it'll ripple out to your family. Then it'll ripple out to the community in which you live. Then it'll ripple out to strangers. And not only will you feel healthier inside emotionally, but you'll feel healthier physically as well. And believe me, when I say that miracle happen when you start to address warring within yourself. Suddenly, tumors shrink.

And I don't mean that everybody does because our contracts involve a gazillion variables. So just because it happens for one, you don't have to say the grass is greener over there, no. This is customized to each of us. I made a contract. You made a contract. We each made contracts so that we could fulfill them. Maybe we need to go through some chronic illness or something for other reasons. But that does not mean that there is no way that a miracle can happen. No. Because it can always happen.

you see it it doesn't put the blame on others nor does it it brings it back to ourselves not putting blame but just having us ask ourselves how have we contributed to maybe bringing dis-ease within our own vessels. Right. Self-inquiry is so, so, so important. Depth of accessing yourself, self-inquiry, so-so, so important. And it's not easy either, you know. Sometimes in, in, in interviews, it's like, oh, it's always, no, I, please know, I am prefacing this with, transformation takes time and the old laugh at this quote the devil is in the details right so step by step but also it could happen in one second because time sometimes gets shrunk or expanded in that quantum in allowing for ourselves to be aware of our multi-dimensional nature that it invites

like this and invites all possibilities because space is malleable and so is time at our tole got very popular with the power of now because another quantum concept is everything is created from the amount of presence you put in now, now, now, now. And it's called a quantum collapse. The quantum collapse happens, and then you see manifestation. Exactly. On this earth plane. Exactly.

Okay. Now, I want to ask the audience, have they ever experienced where time, just goes like that or fears like an eternity. Right? Yeah, exactly. And when we bring our consciousness to that place, that's when the quantum collapsing can happen really quickly. And how can we do that?

By meditating, by there are many ways but I'm just going to say meditating at first yeah right because and meditation doesn't have to be laborious it can be it can be if you want it to be and you need it to be and you need it to be guided and you need it to be a certain way that's all beautiful too but the ultimate experience of meditation is stillness, quieting our minds so that we can reconnect with the divine and not let our egoic running, running, running take over. Or our emotions that are beautiful and wonderful.

We need both of those things. We need our egos to take action on this planet. And we need, yeah, we need our. own choices to bring us to a place of this choice of stillness. And then it helps us to bridge between action and being and allows us to listen, even if it's for starting one minute a day. I be still for one minute a day and build up? That is such a lovely opening, not overwhelming concept for people.

Because I know I myself and others have been really resistant to meditation and we're doers and check off lists and everything else. But for most people, they're arguing with ourselves all the time. You know, like you say, I was writing a book called Stop the War on the Body. That's interesting. So that was like a whole other thing. Holy cow, Marilee. That's awesome. With what you were saying about how we are warring with ourselves and the outside reflects all that. This is why understanding that everything is one and it's all connected and the hermetic laws of as above so below and as inside your cells are a galaxy, so the galaxy is out. outside and it's just you don't have to here's the thing you you don't have to take physics classes

no don't have to take mathematics classes you don't have to do that because people will automatically be programmed I watch this all the time and they just go oh no that's over my head or oh no I don't do that oh oh doesn't involve that oh no I'm not going to do it you you just have to have the intention and the willingness to trust the science where the science, we're studying some of the science worked for me was not because I was a scientist. It was because my left brain got on board with my right brain because it had enough facts, current facts,

current progressive facts that aren't shared always on the news, etc. To validate that it was not woo-woo, that it was, wow, this actually works and that's what miracles are they're natural ways of being in higher scientific principles absolutely you are absolutely accurate yes yes yep so that's where the warring stops so for you to allow yourself to just get overwhelmed because you don't think you're smart enough or you don't think or your attention span has been conditioned to one minute, of course, your concept of even one minute meditation, you build on that. And what they say from up above, they say you have never been disconnected from source unless you want to. They said, we are always here. And always here. And

obviously, for what's called third density, our dimension as we're progressing to fourth and fifth, which is a fifth is a lot more fun, that you don't want to necessarily be hearing everybody's thoughts all the time. So there's a way of slow progression of building it up by prioritizing. And a beautiful example that this guy named Jake, he'll be my next guest, said, he said, you can do selective. You're like an example of sharing Joyce with you the other day. You can be in a whole, you know, like a restaurant or a party, say. And there's tons of people and tons of noise and your body starts dealing with that. And then all of a sudden, someone mentions your name and they could be 20 feet away.

And they may be talking about you. You actually will go like this and hear that and then pay attention to that only conversation. So it's learning those skills as you open up to your multidimensionality. And so it's not something you're learning. It's something you always have as an aspect of source. It's whether or not the difficulty they say is people don't acknowledge or hear or feel your highest self communicating or source communicating or your team communicating because there's too much static. it's literally like trying to yell through a hurricane especially with the addictions of

you know two second thinking and argue with yourself so this is about mastering what is required and natural in higher levels where you source from you are used to all these things on earth this is the time of truth disclosure and awakening It's us putting the intention, because intention is huge, and then the attention, and just start with one minute a day.

That's my little diatri from here. And Marilee, this goes right to when I work with clients, they'll say to me, Joyce, one of the things that I want to be able to discern is what I'm. What is that voice that is connected to the divine versus my egoic voice saying what it wants? Right. So you know the song, you can't always get what you want. Get what you need. It's related to that. And what happens with people.

is when they start to discern, they realize that the choices that are better for them, they sometimes don't want to hear. No. Or say yes to. Yes. So you see, so it's a multi-layered. We are multidimensional and these things are multi-layered.

So when they start to explain, this, oh my goodness, the things that happen, the stories that my clients tell me. And thankfully, because we also bring in humor, is that they'll say, I didn't listen. I knew it was from the divine, but I didn't listen. And this is what happened. And, you know, sometimes the stories are not happy making and a little harmful. But some of them are very funny. And, you know, hilarious, what happens? Like, you want to have this happen over here.

Let's say people want to improve on the money exchange and the resources they bring into their lives. Then they hear from the divine, they know they've discerned oh this is the divine voice and they say no to it yeah and they go and do something and then and then um two days later three days later a week later this actually happened to someone they got a check in the mail they were all excited and then the check was rejected And we laugh just like you're laughing, right? Close, but...

And then because of that, right, because of that laughing, and because the person, my client, became immediately conscious of it, immediately conscious of the consequences of a choice. It was hilarious. she made a different choice. She made a different choice. And within a week, she got a very supportive resource that was just an example of how these things work with many different variables in divine timing. That was so important because you're telepathic and you knew,

my next question was how does the awareness of your multidimensionality, right, directly apply to our lives and development today? And can you give examples? And we've all had that. I mean, we've just all had that, not listening to our intuition, or not just listening to the divine, listening to the divine in the body, when the body's talking to us, oh, you know, it's fine or whatever, you know, or, I mean, there's so many ways. I think part of that is we like some people love running the edge. It's like an addiction and you can do it on earth pretty well. I found the more evolved you are, the more you'll get like smacked faster in a good way. But seriously, you know, like you set up like, no no you know like wanting to be the bad girl for a day or whatever whatever it is or the pirate or

something so there's are not noticing the red flags when you're dating yes and pretend and ignoring them and then being shocked but you know these are games we can play with ourselves yes here that it's harder to fool yourself on higher dimensions absolutely true Absolutely true, Marilee. And, okay, another follow-up to that is I have clients who then will beat themselves up after they do that. Not good. Not good. The invitation is to say, ah, I've learned from this or that experience gave me more and more discernment. And I'm not going to beat myself up.

And what I say to them is, depending upon their own personality or character development for themselves, what they, the kind of person they want to be on this planet, many of my clients end up being service-oriented because then they are sharing. both for themselves and others, but the biggest discernment is to treat themselves as kindly as they treat other people. But there are also those who tend to be more focused on themselves because they've had to be, because of the way they were brought up, they've had to protect themselves, they've had to do. all manner of speaking to be in a safe place. So they are having challenges with the balance outwardly to other people and what makes relational spaces challenging for those people who have been

either brought up in that way or are more tending to protecting themselves. So their discernment might be and their transformation they might choose to be will be how can I treat others as beautifully as I treat myself or as protecting as I treat myself you see so not everybody gets the same yes it's request unique I find that there's common program three friends. Yeah. You know, but the twist is, is interesting. It's like our version of the story we think is so unique, you know, in certain way. Yeah, exactly. Oh, oh, oh, you can't believe what happened to me. It's never happening.

What a shocker, right? So, because storytelling, especially if your Irish is fun, but it gets, it gets old so there's so many things i was with one of my family members who's he's just such a sweetheart and um i said so why are you deciding not to love yourself in every every way and because and i also suggest this to everybody everybody and 90% of the people it's very hard for them to do they are very quick unless you're you know you have extreme mental disease they're very quick in saying they're not good enough what they don't like how they're not pretty or whatever or whatever all the programs and they're struggling to make a list which is the first homework

i love to give anyone make a list of all the things you appreciate about yourself and um so my family member came up with two and i said to him i can't him I can list off 30 right now in true honesty. So I said, why do you think you do that to yourself besides programming or whatever? And then he says, I'm not sure. He's a sweetheart. And I said, I think it's because it's what you use for motive to stay humble and I'm not good enough, so I have to try. There's this reverse kind of, or to be humble, you know, because, you know, to say, you know, to say, oh, yeah, I really like myself. Of course I can always improve.

I really like myself. It's very rare to hear that. And this is where we need to move to, I think, you know, or to even own up like you were saying the part of this going, oh, yeah, I know, I know it's really bad for me, but I did it anyway. and just own it. Yeah. Right. Don't play stupid. Yes.

And then it could be playful. And if one of the reasons why you have come on this planet is to be playful in that way, then that could be part of the whole experience, right? Yeah. It's like, oh, I just overdid it a little. Yeah. And most of us have to get slapped down or a little home bold or whatever to reorganize ourselves. You know, it's like we play with ourselves and we're always in one, right?

You're making me reflect on a little bit of our previous exchanges where I was telling you how during COVID, I did not want to be involved in the fighting around what is the right way or the wrong way about addressing what was going on. I really wanted there to be solutions for the whole, trans-politically trans everything, like moving beyond the duality. The duality, right? So I created a global healing intention meditation process. It was one of the few and first and a while closed group, because in a closed group, there's an intimacy that occurs that allows for deep transformation and growth within. I value both.

open groups where people come in, maybe do group meditations, group practices, group classes. But I have grown to really appreciate this group that was only intended to be eight weeks long, Marilee. And each week, we have met, with the exception of emergencies and all of that, since 2020, January 2020. And it is now the month it is in. But you're also talking about the depth of connection and conversation. And so much, I'm hearing from so many people that they're, they're very lonely or alone after the COVID thing.

And they're not natural extroverts. So it's hard for them to go out. find new friends, some have lost a lot of friends, you know, that whole process. So you've almost developed an extended soul family. Exactly. And did it so that there would be this understanding or this understanding might not be the right word, but this experiential of how could we impact something that feels out of control for us as human beings? right and that we are overwhelmed so what happened was people began to understand or grok

in their own life experiences from the group the incredible impact of subtle energy not we did not meet in person we met on zoom we had to meet on zoom but that we could create intentions that were meant for personal to global healing focused initially on the themes of the book that I wrote but then beyond that and you know what is happening now in our world or and they would almost always intersect yeah what happened personally in our group's week we'd see on the heaven lines in globally. And it became this laughing, joyful phenomena, even though, of course, many challenging things, people diagnosed with horrible diseases and then miraculously healing from

them and other things that would happen with family members and disowning family members and then coming back together and renewing healing bonds with family members over the course of the six years that we've worked together. And does that not reflect our global capacity to reconnect as global oneness, not in the sense of controlling by one? that's not what that is meant to mean. It's meant to mean that our uniqueness within that oneness can be expressed in an honoring and a respectful and a divinely loving way.

Non-polarizing. Non-polarizing. It doesn't mean you don't have a preference, folks, but non-polarizing. And how you, from a galactic viewpoint, how you determine if people have achieved in a game a certain level of maturity is how polarized they are. Because if you notice all the negative news, you start getting addicted to all of that,

horror stories, all that stuff is very addictive and it has the most views, millions of views, because it's an addiction. And what happens is, as you know, as co-creators, where your attention is your energy follows. And especially if you're an empath, they're sensitive like Joyce is and many of my clients are, they can't just toss it away and not have it affect them. Okay? Like it penetrates. And you predicted one of my last questions, which was.

of course to define the importance of collective consciousness, which is related to the quantum field, which is related to where all one pretending were not. And you throw in the free will and the pirates and the this or that with it. And how that actually changes our reality. So that was my question. And you just gave that example of your group that came together. And then you notice the changes on the earth.

Same happened in 19, whatever that was, 86 or harmonic convergence, right? Yes. Different things like that. So these, this is not, these are real, real laws that if you actually activate them, we can create and we can uncreate. And it's easier to uncreate once we're 100% ruthlessly honest with ourselves. and I mean, and can laugh about it because you're not over-identified with, you know, everything, you know, unless it's a really extreme thing. You're not over-identified with this body.

This body is already connected to source, is already connected to the higher self. It's about our free will having the choice to pretend it's not. Yes. And being the neutral witness when it's really easy to get thrown off. Oh, yeah. Or many, many women I work with, they're just understandably because it's the animal part of us. We're integrating huge amount of things, folks. Yes, we are.

Oh, my God, reptilian and mammal brain. Used to be opposite. You'd do anything to integrate that, right? like so many different things and the physical form if you spoke your mind if you said no thank you you'd be ostracized from the pack which would cost you your life that's the pure physical survival stuff the instinct the more you are aware the more you decide who's in the driver's seat that's how I look at it so I try and decide not always great with that that who's running this vehicle is my soul and spirit and source and I tell my ego you're going to be in the backseat

and you're very important otherwise I wouldn't comb my hair in the morning so that's a good thing but you're not in charge right and you look at the places part of that self-inquiry is to look at all the things that trigger you yes where you're reactive rather than hmm okay it's in my life because there's something for me to look at it might just be 20% for you to look at and maybe you want to blame it all on the other prayer the person's much more of a jerk or whatever it else but you the principle here and it always comes down to this or comes up to this is coherence so do you want oh my goodness I was just just about to say about coherence And the wild thing is that these things can actually be measured.

Yes, absolutely. Heart Math Institute, Stanford, the quick two-minute heart integration with the brain. So that we are here to ultimately integrate, to explore, play in experience, and ultimately integrate the ultimately integrate the myriad amount of dysfunctions that have been passed down through seven generations and have been allowed to go on without personal accountability because of the distractions and addictions to media and outward things and not enough practice and assistance with self-inquiry and thus important to access the work that Joyce does. Thank you so much.

I feel like this also applies merrily to the honoring and respect of all cultures because all cultures and choices of spiritual practices and every way that we can be different. Yes. Also has karmic choices coming into a lifetime. So rather than to see others as worse than or better than, that we are all equally valued. Yes.

fully valued by the divine. This is essential for our planet now. This is what I feel has been just somehow distorted because when it starts to get this culture is better than this culture, this religion is better than this religion, then it affects the individual in a way, even more so to deny guilt, shame, and not allow us to experience the cosmic consciousness

of choices. Of choices and of this sense of unique expression within the whole. Yes. God having, source having fun. source having fun and and people don't talk about this merrily but i i know i've experienced this divine source is also learning from us that doesn't mean we are we are source we are not source we are a part of source a fractal a fractal a fractal

a lot of the abilities and whatever we want to use in any lifetime. So what I have experienced, especially in the last decade of my life, as I explore my own expansion and moving to the edges of consciousness and being more. deeply connected with the divine and facilitating that with clients and in groups, I find that the divine then expresses this incredible gratitude toward all of us as we do with them. So the ultimate experience for all of us has been, I will say a platform for everyone, if we could invite in all that we do divine love, which is divine source, in all that we do,

in all that we do, even with allowing for our darkness and our lightness, but invite the platform. The always there always will be. Right? And the capacity to forgive others and forgive oneself at the deepest level of being. before we pass on this planet. And we could do it. Each of us. Very important.

And then you don't create karma. Exactly. And this sense of deep gratitude. So before gratitude is, and this is really hard for people to do. But too, as my Native American lovely, friend and colleague has said from his mentors to be able to forgive the

unforgivable. Yes. Within ourselves. Yes. And all that is around us. Yes. And then to be in the deepest gratitude

for the largest and the smallest of things. And it is reciprocated. It is this amazing piece that I am becoming more and more aware of and that gives me goosebumps is that the divine is so grateful for all of that. Yes. Constantly evolving, constantly expanding mutual gratitude, mutual playfulness, compassionate understanding. You're nothing like going through an experience to make you more compassionate. Yes.

Right? Yes. So I agree with you. It's wonderful. I'd like to tell our audience about Joyce's wonderful book. And I don't know if you can see it, not really, but we'll put it up on the screen. where Joyce unveils seven vital keys that ignite transformation from the inside out that are essential for new creative forms of leadership to emerge during this time of old structures

falling apart. And they are supposed to fall apart because they're dysfunctional. Joyce is an authentic, as you can see here from this, hour or two hours that we've had is authentic, compassionate, and a gentle, indomitable spirit and commitment to creating more leaders everywhere, not just corporate executives, heads of states, but individuals like all those listening that may not consider themselves leaders yet. Okay? It might be a scary concept.

It might be like, oh, that's too much responsibility. Well, leadership is part of co-creating with Source. So it is about making healthier and more beneficial choices in the use of power, truth, integrity, wholeness, and dynamic balance, which is in her book. She also shares compelling life experiences and serves as a gentle laser lighthouse beam that helps you rekindle a source connection within your heart that activates reminding us all of the miraculous nature and connection we have with all that is. So I feel that Joyce's one-on-one and group consulting sessions with people of all ages,

as she shared with you, brings forward into the light, the unique dynamic. and properties that their souls already contain. This is not something you're relearning. This is something you're remembering. When you break put it like that, it will relax you more. You don't go through all your insecurities. I'm not enough. Oh, I can't do it and blah, blah, blah.

So their souls already contain to positively affect and transform older personality beliefs and systems into into a new integrated, exciting approach, just like how what's referred to as traditional medicine, the traditional medicine world and beliefs had to expand to incorporate integrated medicine because more people are waking up

and they wish to follow the natural inherent laws and nature to obtain their greatest health. So, Joyce, would you like to share your contact and how people can get hold of you? I know you have a YouTube and a channel, an email, whatever you wish to share. Yeah, the best way to reach out to me is at Joyce Anastasia at leadby wisdom.com. and you can also follow my email, which is, or my website, sorry, which is leadby wisdom. Dot com.

And you can connect with me through that. And I will get back with you, actually personally. Oh, cool. All right. My YouTube channel is www. YouTube.com forward slash user forward slash Joyce Anastasia One. That's what I have. Okay. All right. Perfect. Beautiful. Well, thank you so much, Joyce. It's been an honor and lots of fun.

And I am so pleased that you are becoming public to my listeners and subscribers so they can benefit from your service and I think Joyce and I will probably do at least a three-part series. She has a lot of wisdom to share. I'd like to end with a quote that I picked way even before that fits this perfectly, which is, quote, there is only one appearing as many, revealing its true nature as love. end quote. So folks, you can look forward to receiving the best care and assistance for your growth with Joyce. And onwards and upwards we go committed to shift and change this world. Blessings.