Cosmic Brilliance - Heaven is Repairing, After-Life Choices, ‘Soul Wells’ & Who’s in Charge Here? with Dragon/Fae Super Soldier, Apollymi Mandylion
Episode Date: November 13, 2023I feel this is one of the most important clarifying shows ever, with a high need-to-know for your soul’s clarity in making choices. My shows are fun educational classes with a lot of information not... taught in schools, so I divided this interview into two shows for your ease.Watch for Episode 34 coming soon.Please see Topics bullet points for reference: • Intro • Clarity for all concerned on Heaven ONLY partially being destroyed in 2012! • Jesus escaped & still has to pass Creator test • After-Life Kingdoms and your choices • What are the ‘Wells of Souls’ & did the souls survive during the attack? • What are they doing to Repair Heaven & which Angelics are helping? • Angelic powers depend on what batch they came from • Seraphim originally ruled the 7 Layers of Heaven • After death, learn the two main options you have • Not every species can reincarnate into anything • Soul Wells are protected by Deities with Prime Creator contracts • Who’s in charge in this Experimental Universe? • “The Beginning” vs. “Conscious Creation Evolution” • After life Deities & multiple areas you can go to after death • Hell is a Realm and very vast • Tartarus & Hades: 2 extreme rulers reside in the same dimension of Hell • What are the Reapers & do you need their help? • You need to express your desires of where you want to go • To reincarnate, YOU have to sign ‘book of life’ with creators who took Vows of Karma • What is always important to remember = Ask questions in life & afterlife & state preferences • Learn about Creator Training by Prime Source Creator of the Multiverse • Are there many huge kingdoms in Afterlife? • Who protects the realms of souls? • What are the requirements for Creators in Training? • What are the requirements for After-life Deities? • What are first steps in Creating a Universe? • How corruption starts in higher ranks • Do creators always get caught & if so, what are their punishments? • Apollymi = “Champion of Light for Immortal 7” when Atlantis was made • Getting “The immortal 7’s” attention • 2015 -2016 –Apollymi told Immortal 7 to pay attention • Immortal 7 & Andromedan Chancellor’s response once they finally came here • Immortals discovered some of Apollymi’s SSP contracts were false! • Immortal 7 started with Earth to the entire universe - all being under investigation • Apollymi does “touch osmosis” to share her experiences to the “parentals” • Who are the species that have ‘investment’ in this planet & when did that occur? • Hints to how they built this planet and terraforming it after building it • What are most of those activating Arks about? • Education was kept from humans like ability to commune with nature • How are these councils & Immortal 7 accountable or is it a low staff problem? • What is an important Key differential that is part of the problem? • Are there lots of experimental universes? • What accountability would a creator have for experimenting w/ mostly neg. universe? • The key for ALL to be clear about in this Universe! • Source Creators responsibility vs. Councils that S.C. appoints • Reminder of who the Immortal 7 are & who created them.
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back to Cosmic Brilliance, folks. Many of you wrote in and said, you really miss seeing shows with Apollomy.
So here we are again with Dragon Faye, Super Soldier, Apollamy Mendelian. As you subscribers know from our previous nine minute video announcement, Apollomy is shutting down her academy online in order to focus on getting her two-volume Academy Science series written, geared for beginners, so don't worry.
on up. She will explain true science principles that have not been taught in school, needless to say,
and are a need to know to become more capable co-creators. We've designed this show addressing
very important topics that have not been explained fully in previous shows and to address
some of your questions, such as more detailed on the so-called destruction of heaven,
more of Apollomis insights on creation, source creator,
councils, and the difference between the beginning versus conscious creation evolution.
You will also learn more fascinating details about the different beings on this experimental
seed planet called Earth, some of whom have souls and some of whom do not have souls.
So welcome back of Pallamy and thank you for
sharing your so precious time to teach us what you discover from your old soul wisdom.
I know you are very busy daily and nightly on missions. So thank you so much.
Thank you. It's really awesome to be back again. I was a little shocked when you were like,
people miss you. You need to come back. And I'm like, wait, what? Actually, she's so cute.
She's really, really humble. She doesn't even have.
have a clue of how, you know, so anyway, we, I dragged her by your dragon tail, which is not easy.
I want you to say, do not practice that at home, okay?
All right.
So as usual, let's plunge in.
On one of our earliest shows, Apollamy, you briefly mentioned that heaven was destroyed,
which understandably caused a huge uproar in the audience and subscribers, because they're like going
where do I go after I cross over?
And it was my fault not to pursue it and ask more detail questions.
So today we will be to cover, you know, covering that.
And so let's see, you specifically elaborated that.
That heaven was destroyed.
Yahweh was dissipated in front of you.
leaving a crown and gold in this universe.
He's still okay in first sources universe from where you come from called Hanover.
I'm just getting people up to speed a little bit.
But it was very coincidental, but two weeks after Yahweh,
whatever you want to say, disappeared or died in our experimental dimension here,
that there was an attack on heaven.
So let's have you go into detail, more precise detail about heaven wasn't totally destroyed and all of that that people need to know.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, my version of destruction is different than other people's version of destruction.
That's why you're a bad girl.
There were a lot of different factions who were on, who can transcend into the,
dimension that Yahweh had his heaven in for people with their afterlife and going to that
transition period between, you know, the soul rusting and then being reincarnated.
There's a very high dimension in this universe.
And these entities ended up coming in, okay, I have to explain this first.
Most people think that this is a magical place, okay?
That it is protected and nothing that can be harmful or ill intent can reside on this vibration frequency dimension.
That is not true at all.
Entities who have the ability to transcend into those dimensions can be good, can be evil,
can be neutral. A good entity can suddenly change their mind and have ill intent in a heartbeat.
It happens every day to all of us. People have a very miskewed understanding of, you know,
in order to get into these frequencies, you have to be pure. You have to be of this intent.
But that's not true. Otherwise, Yahweh himself would have got it tossed out.
out for having all those, you know, eons of, you know, being kind of a dick, I'm sorry, to people down
here. He wasn't exactly that nice in some of the, in some of the texts. So, you know, it's still
ill intent. It doesn't matter if he's a creator or not. So in that theory that you have to be
pure of intent, he would have fell from his own grace and his own frequency of heaven and wouldn't
have been allowed in if that was true to these people who were, I'm not, I'm not going to call
anyone out, but it's not how it is. We know that. And just really quickly here, that occurs all the
way back up to source, no matter what dimension you're on. People still have free will, can still
do trips, can still have agendas, can still do things like that, right? Yeah, you're, you, every
single consciousness is growing. And there are going.
going to be turning points in every consciousness where their ego once again comes up if you do not keep it in check.
So again, you have to learn balance.
Anywho.
So these entities end up coming to Yahweh's gates, Yahweh's kingdom over there, because the land stretches very far and wide.
There's forests, there's streams beyond his kingdom walls in the same dimension, right?
There are other places residing in this dimension.
And they ended up getting attacks.
The gates got broken down, a full-on war ended up happening.
There was a lot of different factions that were going against this.
Now, the attack happened two weeks after Yahweh ended up disappearing.
So there was no warning that I knew of.
I got to not be a part of this.
I got told to stay out of it and stay down here.
I could not astral travel over there.
I couldn't do anything.
And me and another angelic were on the phone talking,
remote viewing the entire thing, you know, and just crying, basically.
So.
That tells me strategically that it was allowed from,
high up somewhere. That's what that tells me that you weren't allowed to get in there.
But this is so important. So keep talking about first the background, like the different kingdoms,
that heaven isn't just heaven one spot. It was destroyed. Bango. Now there's no place for people to go.
Right. So after heaven got destroyed because there was a lot of stuff that happened there.
Joshua, other way known as Jesus for most people, ended up having to leave because the entire place was just getting destroyed.
Now, the well of souls, which I will go specifically into detail for, the well of souls was not touched because nobody can touch that.
it can't be destroyed it's you know not allowed to be tampered with that sort of thing and that
I mean you can everyone has a free will to do so but the punishment is basically non-existence
so anyone who knows what a well of souls is you just don't even try to even mess with that thing
okay we're going to get to all the details of that next because that's really fascinating
Okay, so we're talking what was targeted was just Yahweh's property.
Yahweh heaven.
Not the other kind of created heavens, places, whatever, beautiful spots, kingdoms in that dimension.
Okay.
Yeah.
So again, there's other, there can be and is other kingdoms in those dimensions.
Just because Heaven fell does not mean that souls.
you know who have died or are dying don't have anywhere to go that's not that is you don't have to
worry about that okay it's just that that version of heaven for the for yahui's heaven does
not have the capability to have people go to their afterlife to that specific area anymore
until it's regenerated if it's regenerated, which we'll get into in a minute.
So basically, are there a certain number of layers like seven kingdoms in that dimension?
And is each one controlled by an angelic or guarded?
How does that work?
Having what people will call afterlife kingdoms, they can reside in many different places.
And some of them are more connected to the multiverse than other.
When I say connected, I mean like you can actually travel to get there from any other part of the universes of the multiverse.
Hang on.
I'm trying to digest everything that you just said because there's like five different topics in that in that whole sentence.
Yeah. You want me to slow it down?
Yeah.
Like we'll do how my friends have to put up with me too.
Like replay, reset.
Okay.
So, okay, so the first thing is you clarified, which is really important, that all of heaven or all of that dimension was not destroyed.
Just Yahwehs, which is from the Bible or whatever else is a key kingdom within that dimension that most people go to after crossing over.
Is that right so far?
Yes.
people from earth most humans okay but then but there are other places that have been untouched
so this was just a targeted place and okay and is that place supposed who guards
yaway's heaven and what happened so after the kingdom got destroyed they had to abandon everything
there was really no one for a couple weeks really everyone just got the heck out of there you know a lot of
things were raided a lot of things were untouched still too so after the kingdom of heaven got
destroyed basically the the raid happened uh joshua got out safely that's all i can really say about that
is he is safe. A lot of the angels literally left. We didn't really see anybody remote viewing there
for quite a few weeks. And how do I put this? The well of souls was basically untouched for a couple
days and other creators came in and did what they needed to do to make sure that all those
souls in the well ended up getting transferred to a proper area for them to have their afterlife.
I wanted to make that very clear.
Is that really important?
That's top priority is to protect the soul wells, right?
Yes.
The well of souls is basically a huge area.
where you can go into it to basically have your consciousness rest until you're ready to come out
and experience new things again. You don't have to be in the well of souls if you don't want to.
It is a choice when you go into your afterlife. You can kind of wander around and do whatever.
But if you choose to just have pure rest and reflect on everything internally, that's what it does.
And it's the closest thing that you're going to get to source creator itself.
Okay.
So other creators came in and protected it first priority.
Okay.
And took those souls other places.
Correct.
Okay.
And what else would you like to add?
Oh, well, okay.
So after a couple weeks, we ended up talking to a few of the Angelics like Michael,
Raphael, those guys, and they wanted to start rebuilding the kingdom again, which they had started.
So it is still very much destroyed. There's a lot that still needs to be done and reconstructed.
However, going there for an afterlife to have that contract with a creator of such high standards that
Yahweh was
just isn't going to happen there
anymore until
Joshua ends up passing his test
to possibly take over that area
again. And we'll go into
that part on why
I'm sure later into this
episode.
We have covered it a little bit
and bits and pieces throughout all the other
shows too that
you have to go through very high
qualification for a creator and all that.
but we'll get there.
So what are they doing to repair that heaven?
Are they trying to duplicate it exactly as Yahweh had it?
Are they being creative and doing new things?
Are they terraforming it?
Do they just do it with their brain immediately?
You know what I mean?
Like picturing it and boom.
Especially only it worked that easy.
Darn.
It doesn't matter what dimension you're on.
The physics are always going to be there.
You can't create something out of nothing.
So even though a lot of the angelics are of multiple variances,
not every angel has the same abilities because it depends on what batch they come from.
You know, some have a lot more power than others.
And it's the higher ones that have the ability to help fix things and rebuild things a lot easier
than the newer generation.
That makes total sense.
Okay.
And I know time is irrelevant,
but in terms of our time,
how long would you guesstimate before it's repaired?
Is that like a long time?
They have done a lot of improvements
since the event happened since 2012,
but there's still,
a lot to be done a lot. And they are kind of making it in their own way, you know, changing some
things that they think is better. They don't have their leaders anymore, really. I mean, yeah,
they have Michael, they have Gabriel, you know, and some of the other ones of the seraphim who
ruled the seven layers of heaven. But they don't have the full structure anymore. And this is new to
them, absolutely new to them. So they're having to relearn their society structures, their social
structures, everything.
And actually having to work together and be creators in a whole
another way in a certain way, which is great evolution for them.
Yes.
A lot of people have a very miskewed version of what hell actually is.
And hell is actually older than most people realize.
It is one of the first planes for the afterlife of hell that has been, for, for the
multiverse that has been created, right? There is a lot that goes on down there. And it is for,
it is for afterlife. It is, it was existing before, you know, all these creators and sub-creators
started to get their, their afterlife stuff going on and be able to have their, you know,
their heavens or places of rest for souls. So, people,
who go there who are of, you know, nice nature, they don't do anything wrong. Their carmetic debt is
neutral, you know, they go there and they can still have a wonderful afterlife. They're not getting
tortured. They're not getting, you know, oh, you must pay for your sins, your carmetic debt,
you're everything that scares the crap out of people when they think of the realms of hell. Now,
don't get me wrong, that is there too, but it's not in the same area.
So basically there's kind of like beautiful spots in hell then in a certain way where they can
go and rest just like they would have been yawways.
You have two options.
One option is to go into the realms of hell so well.
Now in the soul well, and this is where we're going to start getting.
into the definition of this. You basically are at a point of rest. So you can have whatever
afterlife you want. And I know it's kind of weird. Like you can have millions upon millions of
souls in the soul well and the space is infinite. All right. It makes reality the way that you want
it only for you. It does not affect other people. And so you can have as much time as
as much happiness, as much time to reflect in all of your being in that soul well and be
protected. Nothing is going to touch you in there. Or, well, by the time that you feel like you,
you are ready to reincarnate, all you have to do is literally tell the creator of that realm,
hey, I want out. Can I get out please now? I wish to be more experienced in other realms.
And they will let you out. And that's usually when you can kind of like hang around the realm for a
little bit while they wait for a body to be ready for you and whatever part of the multiverse.
Because a lot of species can't just be reincarnated into anything. We'll possibly make a video on that
later. I'll give
into that. So
but you can just kind of bum around
a little bit. There are places in the
realms of how we're,
you know,
you just kind of exist. It's kind of like this plane.
You know, if you want to work, you can
work. If you want to just lounge around
and do whatever experience
things, go places, that's fine
too. You know, you don't even have to
get reincarnated. You could literally
just exist as your own entity
and say, hey, can I go over
here, you know, and sometimes they'll allow you to do that depending on your contracts with
things. Most people would consider this like, it would almost be like astral traveling. You know,
if you work here, you can go to your soul, would go to other places, except for you wouldn't
have a physical body. So two quick questions that come from that. So when they're there and
they are experiencing what they want to experience in a peaceful way.
Is that a automatic simulation based on their intent?
Pretty much.
So if you want to torture the crap out of yourself in that simulation or your conscious intent,
then that's what's going to happen.
But it only affects you.
It doesn't affect any other soul in the soul well.
So you live all in the many ways,
you live a reality that you're projecting, welcome to what we do, until you get so sick and tired
of it or whatever, that you ask for assistance or help or shift and changing.
You can only live a peaceful life for so long before you kind of get bored of it.
It becomes repetitive and tedious and it's just stagnant.
Even if it's a glorious life, things just become stagnant.
your soul has to constantly, you know, be involved with things and touch and learn and have
experiences.
Because we're talking time is relative and no time.
We're talking infinite.
We're talking multiverses.
So the growth continues.
Okay.
Another thing that arose while you were saying, okay, so while you're waiting for a body to
come in that would match and be coherent with your karma and the frequency of your soul, you kind of
bum around.
well, what if I decided I'm going to create my own kingdom?
You would just have to find a place that you want to do that?
I mean, obviously there are spaces that are occupied,
but if you decide that you don't want to be,
and this doesn't even just qualify for hell, okay,
like for the realms of hell,
any deity that has a soul well,
those rules seem apply to that soul will and that is because of the carmetic
contract that they have with prime creator of the multiverse and we'll get into that
in just a minute but if if you don't want to be reincarnated into a physical body on a
plane your soul your your spirit your consciousness can just be like well i'm going to go over
here, you know, you're unprotected. So you don't have safety, which is why most people decide to get
reincarnated fairly quickly or they just kind of, you know, hang out where that realm is that they are
in. But if you're brave enough and you're like, well, see you guys. I'm going over here and just kind of
chilling out in this galaxy just floating around, you know, or going to go over here to this like city,
you know, and you're strong enough to interact with other dimensions to them. You would be a ghost,
you know, but you can still do that. If you want to build a kingdom out in empty space somewhere
where there's nothing there, I hope you know your physics, you know, or you got to trade with
other entities that are on your plane because life doesn't really stop existing kind of like in
this, to be honest. It doesn't matter what dimension you're on.
Right. And when she mentions physics, that's what you know your physics. That's what it's going to be taught in the books, by the way, folks. Okay. So examples of realms are kingdoms in that dimension. Would they be like Balhalla for the Celtics, Elysium Fields or Goldenfield? Did I say Celtics wrong?
No, it was like they're Nords, not Celtics.
Oh, they're Norse, that's right.
They're Norse.
They're Norse.
Sorry.
It's okay.
Would it be like Valhalla for the Norse beings and like the Golden Fields that are talked about, things like that?
Things like that.
So those would be what we call afterlife heavens for those deities.
Those would be deities who had taken the contract to.
agree to the realms of karma and to the rules of karma for taking souls to a place of rest.
And they also have the soul wells too.
You don't have to be in a soul well.
You can literally, if you're in Valhalla, you can choose to go to a soul well if you want to.
But most of them are usually trained to, you know, stay outside of the soul well.
Go to that realm and fight, feast and be merry and, you know, do other things.
So Odin and Freya would be the in charge of that section.
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay.
I mean, Fray has a wrong thing.
In charge of the underworld or hell or whatever name is mostly Hades.
So hell is a realm and it is very vast.
Most people think that, you know, like Tataris or Tartarus or however you want to pronounce it,
there's a huge link between that and hell, but they are actually two different kingdoms.
So they all reside under one extreme ruler, but, well, two extreme rulers, I should say.
However, Hades would be, Hades would be the ruler of that area for Tataris or Tartarus.
So they also have a soul well.
but again they're not allowed to misuse the souls they're not allowed to abuse the souls they are not allowed
to barter or trade exactly you know you're not allowed to use the souls so much as currency you're
not allowed to take the soul's power onto yourself to make yourself more powerful they're there
just to rest that's it you are when you become a creative
of that magnitude, you made a pact that you would protect them, that you would basically do all
the steps that you need for the carmetic afterlife. Okay, so are those called the Reapers, or is that
something different? No, the Reapers are tied in with basically prime source, and they are, I guess,
they're kind of a delivery system they're there to make sure that okay say you die right or someone
dies and your soul comes out of your body and you have no religion you don't know where to go
you know you don't even know what afterlives are out there and you could you know the
reaper is just sitting there looking at you and it's many as various forms because there's
one. And literally, if you ask the Reaper, okay, now what? They can give you information,
but they are there to protect you. They are there to make sure that no demon, that no entity
comes and tries to bully you, tries to take you away. They are there to deliver you to
where you want to go. Doesn't matter where it is. Doesn't matter if it's a evil God, a good God,
and neutral God.
Okay, so you're saying you don't necessarily have to have like a concept like,
oh, Jesus is my savior.
So Yeshua will help.
Are Egyptian trained, Anubis helps.
Or you don't necessarily have to have a particular relief.
If you have a particular religious or spiritual belief, that's the entity that will probably
pop in.
If you don't, then basis.
basically by default, you still are protected and taken care of.
Yes and no.
So, okay, hang on.
I think I'm jumping ahead here.
So to finish up the Reaper thing,
reapers are basically there to make sure that nothing messes with you
and your soul gets delivered to where it's supposed to go,
wherever you want to take it.
Or you could run away from the Reaper and that pretty much nulls your contract of
protection.
So that can happen. I don't recommend it, especially nowadays, especially on Earth.
If a person has a religious preference, Christianity, Muslim, Celtic, whatever, Shintoism, whatever your preference is, you can choose to ask the Reaper or you.
You can choose to ask your deity to send someone to you or connect to them and be like, hey, I want to go here.
You know, please protect me while this happens.
And you will end up getting sent to their realm of heavens or realm of hells.
You know, some people choose to go the opposite direction too.
I don't judge.
It's whatever you want.
So there are multiple areas.
that a person can go to.
Now, if you have no idea, like, say you're an atheist and you're like, okay, well, I died, I'm here.
I no longer have a physical body.
What the heck do I do now?
You know, if you do have a Reaper, the Reaper can be like, well, you can either bum around here and purgatory,
you know, the dimension that you're currently on and find your own way through things.
life, but it becomes very difficult to get reincarnated that way, so you have to be careful.
Because usually to get reincarnated, unless you're going to possess somebody, you have to sign a
book of life. And that usually only can happen through the creators who have taken the role of the
carmatic debt, or not carmatic debt, carmetic laws, or entities that have to happen. Or,
entities that have become very powerful enough to kind of shimmy rig their own way around it.
Don't recommend those.
That's usually where you get messed up.
Where you get.
They always want a deal.
They always want a deal.
You know, or.
For you.
You'll do this for me.
You know, and in the very worst case scenario, there's technology that, you know,
people end up getting involved with to reincarnate.
And I don't recommend that one either.
Wow.
Okay.
So bottom line, folks, as in life, ask questions.
Ask lots of questions.
Because if you don't know and you don't ask questions and you just go by default,
it might be a different experience.
And if you go, hi, you know, I'm into Yeshua.
and I'd like to go over to that realm.
And then they're obligated if you know enough to do that.
Is that correct?
Yeah, that's about the gist of it.
So in order for a creator to be a,
basically a creator who is high enough to do an afterlife,
have your realms of heaven, have your realms of the afterlife,
you have to go through a lot.
And I mean a lot of trials,
tribulations, you have to prove yourself to the true prime source creator of multiverse, and take
an oath on being able to not only know the rules, know the laws, but be able to protect,
be able to protect the souls that are coming into you for the well of souls and for your
afterlife, be able to uphold the laws around it and make sure that those souls are
protected. So this is why you see in a lot of the afterlife, like there's always huge kingdoms,
always huge kingdoms. You know, there's always going to be areas where people can't enter,
always going to be areas where there's a lot of high guards. And part of that is to protect the
well of souls. When you take this oath, you also have to learn the rules of karma. Because
whether an entity decides to be a good carmetic entity or a negative carmetic entity deity.
Because usually there's not so much, like, it's kind of like over here or over here or in the middle.
There's not too much like a variance of in between.
you know if you look at a lot of religions like their tenants are either really good or you have to be a really bad person
or you have to be really neutral because there are some forgiving neutral ones but they're very slim
does that make sense yeah kind of like the golden rules the really important rules right so there's
usually always rules to get into specific deities afterlives and and that's their you know their choice
on who they kind of pick from the herd, you know, if you want to put it that way, on who goes there.
And that's part of crowd control, if you want to think about it that way.
So someone can go there, but you can be rejected.
Yeah.
Oh, no, not more insecurity.
We have enough of that down here.
Okay.
Like, why? You're my savior.
Nope, you're not getting that boy.
It's sad, but it's true.
So even though a deity can take on this responsibility for the well of souls, you know,
and be able to take souls into the afterlife, do the soul well,
they can still reject people if their code of tendance is not up to snuff for the
like I want to say a positive actions thoughts their intention things like that right for the for the
carmetic rules that they put down for their followers so you know like so this is like different clubs
pretty much pretty much is this the same thing as the god worlds and the goddess worlds are we
talking like, are we linked to that whole thing, which is a higher dimension?
Yes.
That's what, okay, because angelics are a certain level and then we get to eighth D and whatever,
and there's these God and goddess worlds and stuff.
Well, I mean, like, you can be a DIV at any dimension.
You don't have to be at like 28th tier dimension, you know, in order to be a deity.
you just have to have the knowledge, the power, the self-control to start working your way up the ranks.
Now, when we start getting into creators, there is a completely different thing.
Not only do you have to have the science, the knowledge of how to create, to destroy, to balance,
but there's a lot of testing on certain tiers of deities that that happen you know let's say that
um you become a god of earth all right like everyone praises you everyone loves you blah blah
they give you your energy or their energy to you and you know your consciousness feeds on
that energy and then itself becomes stronger was able to do more things that doesn't
crap to a lot of the higher creators because you still have to prove yourself on a lot of things.
You have to prove yourself that you understand the laws and the rules of the governing universe.
You have to understand, you know, what it means to be a creator.
Whether you choose to be a good creator or an evil creator, a creator of destruction,
a creator of life, a creator of balance, a creator of flower,
paper folding, it doesn't matter.
You know, so a person who would be a god of earth would still not be, or a creator of
earth would still not be a creator of like one of the creators that govern this universe.
You know, there's a lot of work that has to be instilled into that.
Higher qualification beyond adoration.
Higher qualification, higher knowledge.
You know, it's kind of like the difference between going into preschool and graduating college.
Okay.
I'm not sure if that explained anything.
So, and you probably know, so even at the highest levels, if one is bad boy or bad girl and doesn't do what they agree to do in the tenants, do they get corrupted on those higher levels just as much as people get.
down here? Again, good and evil is a point of view, but when it comes to signed contracts
of what you're going to do and what you're not going to do as a creator, they take that very
seriously. When you decide, see, see there's a new universe that's being created. And they need
like 10 different councils. Each council represents and has maybe seven or
eight members for each of those councils. And all of those councils have to come together and have
specific rules laid down by the Immortal 7. All right. You can't do this. You can't do this.
You can't do this. You can't do this. Those are the absolute definite rules that cannot be broken.
That doesn't mean that they're not going to be broken. You know, every person in those councils,
has their own consciousness, their own evolution, their own experience, and every single thing they
absorb and interact with is going to change the way that they perceive, they react, you know,
and their actions. So yes, they can get corrupted, but their corruption would be more on the lines of,
I don't agree what's what happening here. I am going to change this on my own accord.
so that I feel that this experiment would be better doing this,
even though it disregards all of the rules that the higher counsels put down.
That's how corruption starts in the higher ranks.
But what if they're, I know there's no such thing as right,
but what if their choice is more benevolent that they are created?
if their choice hinders the laws that were originally set down by the Immortal 7 or even the higher
or like say it's just a council that governs this quadrant of the universe and they still have to
follow rules you know that the universal council puts out if those rules are broken it's no like
anything other you're going to get punished especially if you get caught
So there's a lot of rules and regulations that try to protect everything.
But occasionally people are going to get corrupted.
And usually they get caught eventually.
And if they get caught at that level, do they get assimilated back to one?
Only if the rules are only if the rules have been broken by the immortal sevens,
like major rules that were set down.
So if an entity breaks one of the main tenants that the Immortal 7 had set,
then yeah, you could get assimilated back to source.
Okay. And the Immortal 7 folks, just to remind you guys,
is the creators over in Hanovera at the first universal creation, right?
A source creation.
Right. Basically, it was the first part of this universe that was ever created.
They are the council that governs the multiverse.
Okay, well, which takes us into a very juicy question here, which is apparently the Immortal 7 had not been over here to this experimental universe for a very, very, very long time.
And I know you personally and maybe others basically went over there and tried to do what you could do or however you want to say it to get their attention that maybe there was too much chaos and darkness and stuff happening down here.
So you want to talk a little bit about that and what is needed to get the immortal seven's attention and why they finally showed up.
I just want to remind everyone that I was chosen by the Immortal 7 of Light that to be their champion back when I was in Atlantis, the first Atlantis, like when it was actually created.
Not when it was just first taken over when it was actually created.
because that episode like just mind blew me that there are records that everyone seems to have on this planet is after the draconians took it over it was like nobody has records of us like would we actually made the thing first you know or it's pure state yes it's beautiful yeah when when the immortal seven actually had avatars that came down here and created thing created atlantis and governed the
people. Yeah. So during that time period, I ended up becoming the champion of light. And I have
been sanction stationed on this planet for a very long time. And so I've seen a lot of this world
change. I've seen a lot of this world come and its ebbs and flows of corruption and whatnot.
I haven't really been off of world too much. I mean, I've had a couple.
a couple reincarnations here and there, but it's pretty much stayed within this quadrant.
But I still kind of have the ability to communicate with the Immortal 7.
And when things got really bad a couple years ago, and I mean really bad, this was before they,
basically the project to get a lot of the Draco's off world, you know,
everything started to crumble against the...
16 and 17-ish?
2015-ish, yeah.
Okay.
During that time period beforehand,
there were some events in my life that really just,
I couldn't take it anymore.
And so I started asking for the Immortal Seven's help.
And I realized that they hadn't,
checked in and i'm not the only one but i realized they haven't really checked into this universe for a
really long time and you know so i ended up telling them what was happening and they were like oh
you know you're very very young you're just overreacting you know you're just not used to
to this universe because it's so different from hanova and i'm like i've been around for like
the last 34 000 years what do you mean like i haven't been here long enough you know
And that's just on earth.
So I had to bother them a lot.
And I know I wasn't the only one because they started running into other Hanovians.
And I'm like, you need to go and tell them because some of the other Hanoveans were here on earth too.
And they started talking to them, been like, no, things are really bad down here.
Like you really need to start paying attention.
and so finally they ended up one of them ended up coming over here and they were a little bit more than baffled
you know at first at first they were like how to tell us which one came over of which of the seven
I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not okay okay they were baffled just like the people on the planet are
their first initiation or not initiation their first observation of everything that had happened they're like
oh well this is kind of weird but it's not really that bad and I'm like oh just just wait a bit
wait a while they ended up observing me for a week and then finally they came back to me and they're
like, so I couldn't help but notice that you're being treated completely unfair,
completely against sanctioned, you know, contracts.
And I'm like, you don't say.
And I didn't realize at the time how bad it really was.
because a lot of the government programs that I was in kind of brainwashed me into being like,
oh, we own you.
Here's all this other stuff.
You know,
and a lot of the other factions that I was involved with,
I'm not going to get into it.
Anyway,
they were really manipulative.
And I had no idea because I was uneducated on how manipulative they really were.
But one of the immortals, like, actually went through my contracts,
looked at everything, looked who had, you know,
actual sanction over me, laws over me, rules over me, contracts. And a lot of my contracts
were falsely forged, which is against one of the laws. And so, yeah, they were not happy.
Exactly. Exactly. Yep. It's not just you. It's other powerful beings too. Oh, yeah,
absolutely. And so they ended up going back and having a
discussion with the other ones and it just kind of all fell down through there.
Other immortals.
With the other immortals.
And so, you know, we ended up having a meeting and they said that they were going to look
into things and not just for me, but I mean, like they were really going to look into things.
And at first they started with Earth.
And it's from about 2015-ish, it's gone from Earth to the quadrant to
the galaxy to multiple galaxies and basically now the entire universe is under investigation.
The entire experimental universe.
Experimental universe is under investigation.
Yay!
It's about time.
And is this true?
I've always had a sense that one of the reasons I keep encouraging our subscribers and people
to focus and work on being more of a co-creator is that if you don't have
a strong sense of self and start knowing who kind of, you know, that you're a creator or at least
co-creating, my sense is they don't really pay attention to you. If you're just like out there whining,
asking questions, you know, can you please do this for me? But like it takes someone like you or
somebody who actually is going enough already. You have to look at this, right? And you mind melded
with them and I think you told us in another show that they go that can't be right.
It was I, I, I'm, I melded with a lot of people.
I say my melded it.
It's basically touch osmosis and they wouldn't listen and literally I had to start
showing them what I was going through, how I was feeling, you know, everything that was
happening around me before they just kind of got it in their system.
And it was not just the immortal seven.
I had to do with this.
Like, I had to do this to a couple of the high chancellors, high, what do you want to call
them?
Basically, the high council members of other galaxies because they didn't really know how bad
it was down here on Earth for some of these people.
People like me, people like, you know, all of the SSP people, even just normal people.
it affects all of them too it really does and you know it was way beyond maintaining neutrality
oh way beyond way beyond and yeah oh man it's it's bad and you know a lot of them are like oh you know
you're just young that was my favorite excuse is oh you're just young yeah you know i'm like
I'm older than you are.
What are you talking about?
Didn't you give them a challenge?
Let's see your, excuse my course language, people.
Let's see your butts come down here and last a day in a ghetto or someplace.
It doesn't have much money and then we'll talk, you know?
A lot of us, a lot of us ended up having a meeting with a lot of the people who had investment in this planet.
investment in this planet
not just the dark councils
but a lot of the endromeda and Syrians
you know some of the Peladians and stuff
and we're literally like
you guys need to fix this this is your problem too
and they're like you guys are fine
you're fine and so I actually
grabbed one of their skulls and melded with them
and showed them how bad it was
and he actually threw up
because
I didn't even show him my SSP stuff.
I showed him a lot of, you know, just day-to-day stuff, homeless people on the street.
You know, I've been homeless.
So I know what it's like, you know, I showed him that.
I showed him all of the frustration and anger.
I showed him everything, you know, everything that was happening, all the division,
all of just people in poverty, you know, our government.
governments feeding, spreading all of our resources out to, to, you know, other countries when they can't
even feed themselves. They can't even feed their own people, clothe their own people, help their
own people with medical needs. And he literally threw up, you know. And then when I started
talking about a lot of the projects and everything, you know, ended up touching him again.
And then he threw up a second time because I actually showed him what they did to us.
And I'm like, I'm not, I never joined the military in a civilian life.
You know, I'm like, they have no right to be doing this to any of us.
And this is hundreds of thousands of people too.
Yeah.
Literally.
It affects everybody on the planet.
So now, just because I can hear this question in the background, when you said these
different people and Dramanans, everyone have an investment in this planet,
describe investment, what investment means you mean in the people,
having their genetics.
What do you mean by investment?
What I mean by the investment is the people who,
the factions, you know, private factions and factions from like different galaxies,
those ones who ended up investing in this planet to remake it after, you know,
TMA got exploded.
So they have actual stock in this planet because they put the money in to rebuild the whole thing.
to create inner earth, to create, you know, the outer structures and the place that we live on.
When they put resources in, we're talking, you know, man hours, resources to actually build it, you know,
a lot of our rocks and everything and magma and structure and stuff, we actually had to pull a lot of that from the broken parts of the planet back in to start melting down.
You know, it costs a lot of money.
So, you know, and then not a...
Yeah. And then terraforming it after that.
They kind of did more of a natural terraforming, you know, but it's whatever.
You know, but then you have the seedlings down here where, you know, they put the arcs, arcs.
You guys call them arcs.
I call them, you know, something different.
But they put the arcs down here and put the genetic.
species down here and everything else. That is a lot, a lot of money is a lot of resources. So
I know people don't feel like they are owned. I know a lot of people don't like that. But if you
ever live in a government society, if you have a social security number, you're owned. Okay,
it's the same principle. You know, it's kind of like being born in a working society.
So they have certain amount of stock in people.
And therefore, you know, they're kind of like parentals.
And they still have a responsibility for everyone down here to an extent.
We were put down here to survive, to grow, and learn about our environment and do what we will with it.
However, you know, a parental guidance, or at least a teacher, would have been nice because that has been kept for many, many, many, many millennia.
We're not even talking ET technology.
We're talking like how to communicate with the trees, how to communicate with nature so that we can better understand it and be harmonious with it and use the resources it gives us without stripping, you know, without raping it.
So basically you took almost a year and a half from what I remember going back and forth and going, this is wrong.
This is what's happening.
So that finally activated them.
Now, I have two questions before what happened next or one question before what happened next.
How are they, including the indromedons of this, the counsels and even the Immortal 7, who finally showed up?
How are they accountable for ignore?
Or is this just like a low staff problem?
Like it's occurring on Earth.
Like we have so many planets we're like doing and so much stuff we're doing.
You know, like and we do this experiment.
And then of course we let it run for a while.
And then, oh, we kind of forgot about it.
It didn't.
Oh, it didn't nuke.
We better check on it.
okay, we don't want it to nuke us.
It's like just, you know,
okay, well, we solve that problem.
Now let's let them on their own again.
And we'll see, like,
it depends on
the tier system.
The Immortal 7,
their time runs so much different.
For them, it could have been like,
oh, I turned around and my eggs boiled,
you know.
Oh, that's true. Good point.
So, you know, and literally,
They just time runs so much faster here that, and it's so much slower in Hanover,
that it's just, it's like a quick second.
Oh, so they can't relate to the hours and hours and hours and years of torture
and hardships and that.
It's hard for it.
It's hard for them.
Yeah.
They're like, stop whining, get over it.
It only was a second.
Pretty much, you know.
And everyone's like, oh, well, they're prime craters.
They can't think that way, but they can.
and they do you know so it's like it's like a parent to a child when you're an adult time goes so
fast you got everything going on at once you barely have a moment to think to you know you got work
and kids and projects and house cleaning and all this other stuff to a child though waiting around
for for them to either get off work or you know do chores or whatever it it feels like
forever. It's the same concept of time.
So they really need the parents need enough beings they respect and don't just see as a little child
that'll learn enough beings they respect to bug them enough to go mommy, daddy, this is
really abusive. My dad, my grandfather just abused me, you know, I mean over and over again,
Right. It's something, you know. And the thing is that Earth is only one planet, you know, for the universe, it's like, eh, whatever. And one experimental universe. We've got tons of experimental universes. Right. Yeah. But again, it takes voices in order to be like, hey, something's not right here. Hey, something's not right here. It's over the last couple of thousands of years we've been in.
brainwashed into knowing what, you know, we have to put up with. It's only been the last
couple of years that people are just like going overboard. It's like, oh my God, I have freedom and I
have power now. I'm going overboard. You know, we're making all these new rules and everything
because I now have power and I don't know how to deal with it. But, you know, it's,
everyone has to know what is right, what is wrong, and what is enough.
And then speak up and not stop, take action and speak up.
Not just get immune, check out and get used to it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So I have another side question coming in from some consciousness, which is they hear a lot about, you know, what happens to positive or kind of good people or neutral people.
they want to know like what is the repercussions for if this makes sense negative beings who are in charge of a negative experience or a creation meaning meaning self-serving you know however you want to define it self-serving but hi we're we're going to experiment with a negative creation here for maximum growth how at what point are they do they become accountable
Carmic wise or anything else.
So if I understand what you're asking,
like if a universe,
a experimental universe was for a negative experience,
there's always still going to be certain rules
that have to be applied by the Immortal 7
for an experiment to even happen.
So to what accountability would those,
with those creators,
have for that, well, they still have to follow the Immortal Seven's rules. And then they still
have to follow the rules that were set down for the original mission of the experiment. Now,
it's very rare for the Immortal Seven to agree to anything that is super negative. You know,
they usually tend to leave that towards a torture section of hell because it's really well monitored
and maintained. They have full control over there to do so. In experimental universe such as this one,
even though it is separated from source, so it can't contaminate any other universes that are
already passed, they know enough that it's usually not going to pass successfully. It would be like
a very small margin that any that any of it would be able to be like you know 10% or 20%
to be able to pass anything this universe is is pretty messed up you know pretty messed up um
it's not the worst by far it's not the worst uh there are worse that didn't make it very long
but so so that's really important what you share but here's a quick example so i'm going to you know
like i'm not going to but a person is going to be a creator and make sure it's a little on the darker
side whatever and then they get really clever and they go okay we're not breaking rules because
we're not really killing these people so we're going to do loopholes and we're going to create
tons of clones and then we're going to torture them and put them in the entertainment industry
So, so, you know, like all the little games that are going on, what?
It doesn't count because they do have a soul or they don't have a soul or, you know,
it seems like a lot of manipulation and loopholes are being played that may not be
obeying the original Immortal Sevens rules.
Again, it depends on what universe it is.
This is a free will universe.
It's not a law of one universe.
So torturing to an extent is okay in this universe because it creates an experience that someone can
evolve off of and learn to appreciate, you know, and it causes that evolution of,
am I going to continue to be a good person?
I can continue to evolve in a good way or am I going to let this corrupt me into, you know,
the same principle.
And that's always the deciding factor.
But there is a point where it gets to be too much torture.
And it starts to drive into the Immortal Seven's rules of, you know, you're not supposed to absolutely destroy a soul.
You are not supposed to have it be so much to where it is torturous enough.
that the soul wishes that it just didn't exist anymore.
Those are some of the rules and laws that, you know, are supposed to be upheld at.
Now, those are for creators, okay, like in councils.
And they are supposed to monitor those universes so that if something in the universe starts
creating that much sway for the experience.
they are supposed to stop it and that has not happened in this universe this is one of the things
that's being checked into because some of the rules from the immortal seven have been broken
that the mortal seven laid down have been broken and a lot of the laws in this universe for its
original purpose have been broken and I'm not allowed to exactly say for the the universal laws
because you had me check into those and they started to.
Good.
However, they have been broken and there was some very, very big offenses going on,
not only by entities in this universe that should have known better,
but by some of the creator councils as well,
because they did not step in to actually,
they're just going to like, oh, I'm sure it'll run its course.
It's good.
No.
some of the council members decided to help but again they have to help in subtle ways which means
that you know okay well we're going to ask this faction over here if they want to be our champions
and go do this for us you know and some of the the creator councils were like no we're just
going to step in and start doing this but when you have so much of a disbalance even the creator
councils can only do so much before they get washed over if that makes sense yeah it's so much
macro it's just it's like the same rules same things going on above so i remember you said so
the mortal seven came into this universe finally through promptings of you and others over a year and a
half at least who's in charge here how did this happen this was not an original agreement you guys are
not abiding by the laws, you have this amount of time to fix it, or we're going to do something
you may not like. Did they actually say that and do that and et cetera? So in around 2005, I believe,
I would have to pull Truth Control's website up and log into my account again. It's been a
while and search for it. I posted a post on there. And I'm one of those people who are a little
tricky. So I like to ask questions instead of just blunt out saying things. And I asked like,
my post was on truth control, has the fighting stopped? And I gave information that I was at a very,
I saw a very important meeting with very important figureheads of the creators. And they were
talking to the Andromeda Council. And there was warnings that were given off that if the
shenanigans in this universe don't stop, there's going to be huge consequences. So yes, the Immortal
Seven have stepped in and told a lot of the creator councils that, hey, if you don't correct this,
if things don't start to change, we're all in trouble. So, yeah.
Okay. So now that is so important and that rolls right into thing that actually was somewhat quite surprising to me, which is how does source creator fit into this and its responsibility for this experimental creation?
Because it's fascinating.
The Immortal 7 are supposed to make sure that, well, first of all, they lay down the rules.
They have the same rules for every experimental universe.
And they also make rules for every governing universe that has passed the experimentations,
which is really quite elaborate.
But their rules have to come first.
they're the ones who allow the creation of experimental universes.
They also pick the councils who are going to run the universes.
So if a council comes to them with,
if several councils come to them and they're like,
hey, we're looking to run an experimental universe, you know,
can we do this?
They have to go through each council member, do a test.
And if they don't like a member or they don't like a council,
counsel is a folder like no you can't be part of this you're not ready you have to continue on your
studies before you're allowed to so after that then then you know they they give the these councils
an energy ball basically and that's pretty much all i can go in for that otherwise i'm going to
get in trouble so um
But yeah, like they have to make sure that those councils are doing their job.
And again, there are millions upon millions of thousands of experimental universes going on at once.
It's very taxing and hard to try and keep an eye on all of them all at once.
So there is a staff shortage.
I guess you could say that.
I mean, it sounds like the higher up, the aspects of us higher up are doing like 400 jobs simultaneously here.
I mean, seriously.
Okay.
So the one thing that was really interesting because I kind of confronted you and said, well, how come our one source creator for this experimental universe is, you know, not doing enough and is really into balance?
and you told me something surprising
about Source Creator, about the characteristics of Source Creator,
and then who's actually in charge.
So share that.
So the Immortal 7 are basically avatars of Source Creator's consciousness.
They are independent for every avatar,
and they also represent certain characteristics.
So they have their own viewpoints that differ most of the time than each other.
And that's for a balancing act.
As for, you know, they each govern their own thing and they each work as a council.
And you ask me, you're like, well, well, then why can't they work as a team and do all this other stuff?
And why don't they know everything all at once?
Like they should know everything.
And the answer I gave you,
maybe chuckle,
but it's like this.
Okay, you yourselves are consciousness.
You have a physical body.
You have an avatar.
I want you to know exactly everything that's happening in you
simultaneously for all of your organs,
your cells,
your microbes in your guts,
everything.
Can you do it?
not really no no even even if you were how how do we put it um it has to get our attention usually
through sickness or health or something going screwy yeah right right like i'm very sensitive
to my body i listen to my body very well but do i know that they're just like you know
am i getting sick yeah i can feel an another life form coming into me when i'm
when I'm sick. I can feel it changing my chemistry. You know, uh, the same thing with,
you know, oh, well, if someone has like, you know, a freckle or something and it's starting
to turn cancers, most people don't even pay attention to that, you know, oh, I caught myself like
four hours ago and now I just found out it's the same principle. So things can sneak up on
any conscious life form, any consciousness whatsoever.
And yes, they know a lot, but it's just, it's really hard.
It's easiest way to put it.
So you were telling me that the source creation isn't, source creator isn't, how do I say this,
really running the operation, it's the team and councils under it that are a part of that.
source source creator is feeling there's a part of it that is feeling and observing everything
but the avatars are not exactly connected to per se to that part of itself it's kind of like
the soul versus the physical body you have to connect everything they do this for multiple
reasons one of them being safety and the other one experience so um
So would that imply that our particular source, well, it depends if we're talking source creator of the multiverse of which the seven immortal sevens are the councils of or the avatars of.
Or if we're talking like creation of a experimental universe.
What I'm trying to get to is, is it possible that a creator can be younger than another creator?
Oh, absolutely.
And so like, because I've always had this sense, like, our creators fairly young or something,
or like kind of a baby or something.
I don't know.
So, so once again, it's the avatars versus, if you're talking about this universe,
the consciousness of this universe has no tether to any of the councils that are governing it at all.
they can't necessarily like tap into all of it so they have to communicate with each other right but you just said there's no tether
there is no tether so how do you communicate when there's no tether what i mean when i mean tether is like
the silver cord that attaches your astrobi to your physical body they don't have that oh oh
Okay.
Okay.
So they don't have that tether.
So that information from the soul to the physical does not happen instantaneously.
Like when you, when you meditate, you can, you can, your, your soul and your physical body can merge with the consciousness of this universe.
But we're all created from, from this, our molecules and everything else.
So there, there is that form of tether for us.
but because they came from outside of it, they have to communicate differently.
And we're talking creator, creation, and the seven immortals, at the same time, the
immortal sevens. They have to communicate differently.
Right. They have to communicate differently to the consciousness of the universe that they're
governing. And how would you say they do that?
I can't tell you. It's classified.
Okay.
I knew you were gonna ask that. I'm like, I can't tell you, I'm sorry.
I'm like narrowing it down for the hill.
